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August 7, 2025 47 mins

What happens when one of the most respected minds in lean construction sits down to dissect project planning systems? You get this episode.

In this powerful conversation, Jason is joined by mentor and thought leader Hal Macomber to explore:

  • Why CPM lacks production theory (and what that means for your projects).

  • The real difference between Scrum and Kanban.

  • How Takt construction works as a socio-technical system and why that's critical.

  • Why some teams thrive with lean systems... and others just don’t.

  • How the software industry has outpaced construction in flow-based systems and what we can learn from them.

If you’ve ever wondered why schedules fail, why flow breaks down, or how to actually support your field teams with better planning this episode is your blueprint.

You’ll walk away with:


✔ A clear understanding of how Kanban brings flow front and center.
✔ Practical takeaways on how to align office + field teams.
✔ Insightful critiques of current scheduling tools and what to use instead.

 

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Also, here are links to our YouTube Channels:

· Jason Schroeder YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4xpRYvrW5Op5Ckxs4vDGDg

· LeanTakt YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/leanTakt

· LeanSuper YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzQDevqQP19L4LePuqma3Fg/featured

· LeanSurvey YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-Ztn3okFhyB_3p5nmMKnsw

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