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May 3, 2025 40 mins
In this episode of Enlightenment Unknown Life of a Spiritual Nomad, host Wes Coons welcomes his friend Liz Chandler to discuss her transformative spiritual journey and the powerful healing practices she offers. Liz shares her personal experiences with psychic abilities, her struggles, and her journey into motherhood that reignited her spiritual gifts. The conversation delves into various healing techniques, including craniosacral therapy and psychic embodiment work, and how these practices can provide profound healing and support for individuals and families. They also touch on the importance of vulnerability, self-love, and the unique challenges and rewards of healing from past traumas.
 
 
 
00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Liz
00:29 Global Reach and Listener Interactions
01:35 Liz's Spiritual Journey
03:46 Postpartum Experiences and Spiritual Awakening
10:15 Craniosacral Therapy and Psychic Embodiment
16:29 Personal Healing and Inner Child Work
19:55 The Role of Doulas
21:10 Reflecting on Birth Experiences
22:40 The Impact of Trauma and Healing
24:59 Teaching and Healing Practices
27:31 Personal Growth and Family Dynamics
39:16 Connecting with Liz Chandler
 
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Hello and welcome to EnlightenmentUnknown Life of a Spiritual Nomad,

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where you are about to embarkon the journey of a lifetime.
Ladies and gentlemen, Wes Koons.
Welcome to Enlightenment UnknownLife of a Spiritual Nomad.
My name is Wes Koons, and this ismy story where we explore the most
extraordinary paranormal experiencethat has never been told before.

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How I navigate through theexorcisms in the haunted house.
To awaken one day with the most beautifulspiritual gifts, and coming to the
understanding that I can heal people withmy touch at a very deep level, navigating
this transition and starting to learnwho I am for the very first time and

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how life happens for me and not to me.
And we're gonna cross realms anddimensions together to find the
version of you that we haven't met yet.
So buckle up, get ready.
We are about to startseason one, episode one.

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Welcome to Enlightenment UnknownLife of a Spiritual Nomad.
Join Reiki master and quantum healingexpert Wes Koons as he guides listeners
through the depths of self-discoveryand spiritual enlightenment to uncover
the version of you we haven't met yet.

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Andrea, thanks for being here.
This is fantastic.
Yes, Wes.
So we are about.
To start this journey with you.
So what can we expect?
What?
What are you gonna tell us?
How are you gonna even start this story?
We are gonna start on rock bottom,and there's only one place to go
when that's up, because that'swhat this show talks about.

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We're gonna go throughmy spiritual awakening.
We're gonna go through the haunted house.
We're gonna tell the story of thiscrazy paranormal experience that lasted
for nine months or so from exorcisms.
To a Native American medicine womanthat comes in and fixes the house
from being picked up in front of thepriest and thrown against the wall.

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We're gonna cover all that in raw detail.
However, there's beauty in thepain and what I'm talking about is
there's lessons for us to learn.
Even in the darkest moments of ourlife, we can find something that has
a glimmer of hope, something thatshows us who we're supposed to be so
we can heal, so we can move forward.

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It's gonna be raw, it's gonna beextraordinary, and I'm excited about it.
I'm excited too.
And what's your favorite four letter word?
Well, my second favoritefour letter word is hope.
All right, so buckle up people.
Wes, let's go.
Let's start the journey.
Well, Andrea, we're gonnafast forward to one evening.

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When I was living in my camper, I had hadto move out of the haunted house because
it had gotten so powerful that I couldn'teven sleep in the camper on the premises.
In this moment in time, things werecrawling on me like roaches, and
it had been like that for a while.

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And the reality is I was fucking broken.
I was living in this camper,the KO eight, the ocean front
with my German Shepherd Kennedy.
She's a blackened tan,Saddleback, German Shepherd.
And right now she's with the Lord.

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But that dog was protectingme every single day.
This specific evening was probablyabout 1130 at night, and to put you
in more of a perspective of where Iwas at, so I'm living in this camper
running for my life every single day.

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Giannis answer is.
I was contemplatingnot being here anymore.
Things had gotten sodifficult, so painful.
Trying to find somebody that couldfix the haunted house, that could get
the demons to stop crawling on me.
They were crawling in my ears, my eyes,my privates, it, it was mind-boggling

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how much fucking pain I was in.
And we're laying there and I was drinking.
Let's just be honest.
By that time of the evening, I'm like,you know, maybe today is gonna be the day.
Maybe today is gonna be the day thatI can grab that weapon and go home.
However, I didn't know howto do it without destroying

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my family and going to hell.
So in the camper was aclass a drivable camper.
You know the ones like theGriswolds they're driving.
Yeah, but nicer.
So I had a really bigking-sized bed in the back and
all the mirrors had towels or T-shirtscovering them because the demons,

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I could see them coming throughand looking at me in the mirror.
And there's this one demon in particularthat reached up and was grabbing
the wallpaper and ripping it openand sticking its head through, and
it looked like fucking Roy Orson.
I'm like, dude, you're dead andyou're still wearing glasses.
I just remember that it was beingfunny, even though it was actually

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quite terrifying at the time.
And what Kennedy would do, she would letme know if something dark was around,
which was all the time at this point.
She would look at them, look at me,look at them, look at me, just to let
me know they're in the, the, the houseor the camp or wherever I was at.

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And so I was laying there.
The TV I think was onmy 45 was next to me.
I needed a shower.
I'd been sweating all evening.
'cause when these things werecrawling on me, it was miserable
and I didn't know what to do.
I was waiting on this priest tocome and try to fix the house I was

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waiting on if he couldn't fix it.
This Native American medicinewoman said she would come.
There was a Native American medicinewoman that said she could fix it,
but that wasn't until September,and this was probably mid-July.
One day, let alone 45 or 60 days, is along time when you have something crawling

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on you and you can't get it to stop.
So I remember at one point Kennedy waslooking at everything and looking at
me, looking at them, and I told her,I said, Kennedy, lay the fuck down.
They can't hurt you.
I remember when I said that I realizedthey can't kill me, and I remember I was

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just hysterically laughing at that point.
I'm like, this is all you got.
This is all you got.
You can crawl on me.
You literally could tear my skin.
You know, I was being abusedby these things for months.
And this is as good as it gets.
I mean, fuck, the MarineCorps did so much more to me.

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So when the realization came upthat this is all you've got, that
was the glimmer of hope I needed.
That was the last time Iever held my weapon with the
intention of hurting myself.
That was the day that theMarine Corps saved me.

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About 30 years ago, in 1988, Iwas a Paris Island, South Carolina
Marine Corps Recruit Depot.
I was first battalion, first platoon,
and it was about 4 55 in the morning.

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You know, if you've ever beenin the military or you've got
this barracks with all the.
Two person racks and justnothing else in there.
And you know, there's a quarter deckup front where the drill instructor,
that's like their, their zone.
You don't go to the quarterdeck, you don't go to this
area unless you're invited.
And inside that area, there's a room offto the left where the drill instructor

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sleeps and in front of that room.
They had what we called the hog board,and that's where your girlfriend
can send in a picture of herself andwhoever had the prettiest girlfriend's
picture or the most seductivepicture received a phone call home.
So that was on display for people.

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It just, something they did.
On the other side of the hallway isthe latrine and the showers and stuff.
On the wall.
They had the senior drill instructorand the other drill instructors
pictures, and the command on theMarine Corps, the American flag,
the Marine Corps flag, you know, thehistory of who we are was on that wall.

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I remember loving that.
I loved that area right there.
To me, it just felt likehome for some reason.
But it was 4 55 in the morning.
And I remember laying therethinking of my mom and thinking

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about these Hendon noodles thatshe used to make when we were kids.
And it's basically chicken anddumplings, but mom would make it
and the whole house would smell.
And if anybody in the familyknew that mom was making hen
noodles, it didn't take long.
Andrew before somebody would callsomebody and be like, Hey, you know,

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mom's making hand and noodles, andnext thing you know, the entire
fucking family shows up for dinner.
And I loved that.
And I would pull the hot noodles out ofthe broth and you know, suck that down
real quick and it'd burn your mouth.
And I'd always get mad becauseI'm like, damn, now I've burned my
tongue, so I really can't taste it.
And she would take a bowland put mashed potatoes.

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Green beans on top and pour thehen and noodles on top of that.
That's how we ate it.
That was a family tradition forus and I loved every bit of it.
About that time, the doorkicks open and drill.
Instructor staff,Sergeant Cochlan comes in.

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We were soon gonna realize andbe punished for every reason why
he was working on a Saturday.
He didn't work Saturdays, sothis was a punishment for him.
He kicks the door open, wake up, wake up,get the fuck outta your rack, throwing
the trash can down the hallway, hittingthe sides of our racks like a pinball.

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We jumped out of bed.
We stand on line, sir. Yes sir. Count off.
And we'd count off one sir, two sir,three sir. Four sir. And inevitably
some dumb ass would screw it up.
How do you not know your fuckingnumber is what you wanted to say.
And he would go ballisticand we'd start over.
'cause he had to know the amount of peoplein the room, so he had his head count.

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So finally we managed toget through the head count.
And he's walking by us and he pickshis people that he hates the most.
And he looks at me and he says,Coons you fucking shit, bird.
You're gonna fucking pay today.
You're gonna fucking pay for allthe stupid shit that you've done.
And a few weeks before that, Ihad embarrassed him by not knowing
my fifth general order when ourexecutive officer came through

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the door and I was on guard duty.
My fifth general order is to quitmy post only when properly relieved.
Needless.
Needless to say, Andrea, Ihaven't forgot it since then.
Right?
Right.
So after he made his roundsthreatening everybody, hurry up.

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You got five fucking minutes.
Let's go.
Five minutes was actually three.
We had to make our rack get dressedand that wouldn't be too bad.
But there was this one guy.
Jacobs,
Jacobs Marine Corps bootcamp is aboutthree, three and a half months long.

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Jacobs had been there almost five months.
I guess if you were to say todaywhat his mental capacity was,
he was probably on the spectrum.
He was autistic, he wasn't.
What one would need to be to be asuccessful United States Marine.

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So this poor kid had been droppedback and back and the Marine
Corps was fucking tired of it.
So when he got to my unit, they mademe make sure he graduated bootcamp,
which put a lot of pressure on me.

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So in my five minutes, which wasreally three, which is really
two, because I had to do my stuff.
Then I had to dress Jacobs.
And no matter how hard he tries,he couldn't move any faster than
a fucking sloth on a good day.
And every day he would get so angrywith me 'cause I'm dressing him.

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I'm forcibly pulling his pants up,putting his boots on, lacing his boots.
He's like, what are you doing?
Why do you do this every day?
And I'd tell him, shutthe fuck up, Jacobs.
You're a fucking shit bird can't youcan't even fucking dress yourself, dude.
Put your shit on.
And we would dress him, shove him onlineand be ready because you know what?

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I didn't fucking care if you liked it.
I didn't fucking care if his heart wasbroken or his fucking feelings were hurt.
I was tired and I was donepaying for every mistake.
Somebody in the unit would do.
Because if one person madea mistake, we all paid.
Jacobs was nothing but a mistake.

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He shouldn't have been there.
His recruiter had to havedoctored paperwork or something
to get this poor kid in, and itwas my job to get him through.
So as we left there, we went to the chowhall and usually in the morning he makes
us do pushups or something as punishment.
And this morning we didn't.

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Every other morning we're doing pushupsuntil we have a puddle of sweat in front
of us and we can't hardly see straight.
But today we had somewhere to be.
So he got us out the doorand we're marching to chow.
And the chow hall was unique.
You know, they shuffled the 46 of us thatwere left through the line pretty quickly.

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And we became quiteefficient at eating fast.
And if somebody was to refill adrink, they would take three or
four cups and refill their cups Foreverybody else, that was teamwork.
We were one.
We ate as one.
We drank as one.
We march as one.
We are one.
You will fucking pay as one.
You'll fucking succeed asone, or you'll die as one.

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That's who we are.
The chow hall was interesting.
The food had everything exceptfor being cooked, right?
Flavor and texture.
So it didn't matter what wason your plate, you were going
to eat it and be out the door.
Well, as we left, Cochlan marches usdown past the barracks, which we never

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go, you know, Paris Island, anybody.
I don't care who it is, anybody that.
Went to bootcamp on Paris Island,men or women, there's a piece
of fear that is still stuck inyou from that fucking place.
You know, there was oftenthe distance, this big twin

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bridge that went across there.
It was huge.
Now I remember at night laying inmy rack, tears going down my face,
just, I just wanted to go home.
You know, you've never beenaway from home like this before.
You never experienced this before.
I.
And you could see that bridge to freedom.
And they told us on day number one.

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Go ahead, go ahead.
You fucking piece of shit.
Go the fuck out there.
And then we're gonna have to fill outfucking paperwork because the alligators
and the crabs and shit are gonna kill you.
And then we're gonna have to sit there andsend mommy your dumb ass in a box home.
'cause you're too fucking weak and you'retoo fucking stupid to do this work.
So go ahead.
Go ahead.

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That's what they would tell us.
So, you know, we're terrified.
I don't wanna go out there.
South Carolina, there wasprobably alligators and stuff,
and Staff Sergeant Cochlan,
he put a fear in you thatyou've never experienced before.

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The pain that this man.
Could drill out and putin you was extraordinary.
And he had these crazy fucking eyes.
And when he would scream at you andhit you in the head with his drill
instructor's cover as he poked you inthe fucking forehead and as he yelled

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and spit all over your face and you'rearching your back backwards 'cause he's
so screaming at you, it changes you.
I mean, we were terrified of this guy.
He was fucking crazy.
And that's saying somethingbecause we are crazy.
But this guy, this guy

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was something you've never seen before.
Well, he takes us past wherewe've ever been before.
He took us to no man's land.
Where we weren't supposed to go.
And one thing I can promise youin bootcamp, you do not want to be
alone with any of them, especiallyhim where somebody can't see you.

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You know, if he catches you between theracks, you come out with a bloody nose, a
black eye, you know, throwing up becauseyou got punched in the stomach So hard.
Or I stood up wrong at the rifle rangeand Staff Sergeant Estrada struck me
with my weapon and cut my foreheadand I was bleeding down all over

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my uniform because when I stood upincorrect, my weapon wasn't facing in the
direction he felt that it needed to be.
So this isn't Boy Scouts.
We are there for a reason, and thereason was to teach us to be men.
To teach us to work as one,to teach us to breathe as one.

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Teach us to march as one, teach usto win as one to kill the enemy,
and if necessary, we fucking die.
End of story, period.
That's your job.
You do your job and you go home, or youdo your job and you don't fucking go home.
We don't fucking care,but you'll do your job.

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And so for him to take ussomewhere that nobody could see,
I was, I could promiseyou I was fucking worried.
So he takes us down by the swamp andI didn't realize what he was gonna

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do next was gonna save my life.
So as we marched down there.
And he stops this rightby the edge of the water.
He says, you fucking make me sick.
You fucking disgust me.
You are a fucking pile of bullshit.

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And in two weeks you're gonna be Marines.
And you are not worthy towear that fucking uniform.
You are not worthy to stand next to me,and I have to go into combat with you.
That makes me fuckingsick because you're weak.
You're fucking stupid.
You're fucking broken, and we are gonnadiscipline the fucking out of you today.

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That's what's gonna happen today.
You are gonna learn discipline.
And we're gonna let every fuckingcreepy crawly in this swamp eat on
you until I'm tired of bleeding.
So Paris Island has these sandfleas that you can't see, that

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feel like a damn pit bull bitingyou, and then they make you bleed.
So I didn't realize till later.
Much later, like two years ago,that fucker had bug spray on Andrea.
You know, he went downthere with bug spray.
I don't know why it took me so longto figure that out, but we did not.

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And so as we're sitting there andthe bugs are biting you, you're
at the position of attention.
It's hot, it stinks.
You don't wanna fucking move.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Fucking move.
He would scream, fucking move.
You are gonna fucking pay.

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Go ahead.
And you didn't want to pay becauseyou're already fucking bleeding.
You're already in pain.
And Jacobs was in front of meand I remember seeing the back
of his fucking head, and I hatedthis fucking kid at this point.
It wasn't anything personal.
This is survival and wefucking needed to survive.
We had two weeks leftof this goddamn place.

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I want it out.
I was terrified he was gonna reach upand scratch and you know, he never did.
We were there for like two hoursblood dripping down us and one of
the things they taught us to do.

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Is to leave our bodiesto go somewhere else.
Pain doesn't hurt.
Pain doesn't hurt.
Discipline.
He would say, discipline, sir. Discipline.
We would fucking sound off hours after.
Hours after hours.
Discipline, pain doesn't hurt.

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Leave your bodies.
You are not worth anything.
You're not gonna go home.
You're gonna take that hill andyou're gonna fucking die doing it.
You are one.
You work as one.
You eat as one.
You live as one.
You die as one discipline.
That's what we understood.

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I thought that this exercise was gonnasave my life in some foreign country.
Maybe getting captured by enemy as they'redo what they do to people to torture them.

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I said this, this has gotta be necessaryfor some reason, and that day never came.
Even though I was in the firstGulf War, that day, never came,
that this would save my life.
However.
31 years later it did because whenI laid there in my camper being

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tormented and tortured by the demons,I seen the beauty and the pain.
The beauty and the pain was I could makea decision to do something different.
That I had experienced somuch pain for a reason.

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Staff Sergeant Cochlan did this for me.
Jesus did this for me.
The universe did this for me31 years ago to survive today
because I had a job to do.
That job wasn't to die.

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Okay.
That job was to figureout who the fuck I was.
That job was to white knuckle it untilone day I wake up and I find out I have
these extraordinary healing gifts whereI can place my hands on somebody or

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above somebody and take their pain away.
That I will learn to not onlylike myself, but learn how to love
myself, learn how to forgive Jesus.
'cause I was so fucking pissedoff at him for the things that
happened to me as a child.
I'm like, if you arereal, how did that happen?

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If this was real, how dothese people die in war?
If this was real, why arethey fucking starving?
Well, I figured that out later.
I learned that my job was to becomea beacon of light, to become a
healer, to be in the forefrontand share my trauma and my pain so

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other people can stand behind me
as the storm comes and they canheal because I've done the work to
fucking block them to protect them.
So they can become the beacon oflight so they can become the person
they're supposed to be becauseI'm showing them the fucking path.

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That's how my children will heal.
That's how I will become the breakerof change, the breaker of change of
addiction, the breaker of change ofabuse, that's breaker of change of
sexual abuse, the breaker of changeof the bullshit that has haunted your
fucking life and my life for generations.
I'm breaking it and I'm gonnabecome a generational blessing.

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We are gonna break generational cursesand create generational blessings
because we become beacons of light.
We learn how to heal in a moment,not in years, and we learn how
to do it with an open heart.

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How the vibration of unconditionallove is more powerful than hate,
as having an open heart is morepowerful than a closed fist.
How this retired marine lays hisfucking weapon down, opens my heart

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and allow God to flow through me.
To heal me, and togetherwe heal the world.
This is not a religious program.
This is a spiritual program, butJesus is the one doing the work.
Not me.
I'm just a fucking tool.
I'm just a grunt.

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I understand that work.
I understand what pain is.
I understand what anger is.
I understand what hatred is'cause I fucking hated myself.

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And if I can get better,
can get better, if I can unc unclenchmy fist, you can Unc unclench yours.
If I can open my heart.
You can open yours.
If I can show my children that I amable to change at 50 fucking years

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old and become the beacon of lightthat I'm supposed to be, you can too.
I. We can shift the energy of this planet,we can raise the vibration of this planet.
We can change the way things arehappening and the way your life is in
a moment when you change the way youthink when you come to the realization.

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That healing doesn't take years.
It takes moments when you takeresponsibility for yourself, when
you realize that you are a directreflection of everything in your life,
that when you realize you're a mastermanifester, because whatever life you
have right now, you manifested it.
If it's fucked up, good for you.
If it's beautiful, good for you.

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The reason I say good for youis you are already a master
at asking for what you want.
Now we're gonna help you ask forthe things that you really want.
Freedom,
unconditional love, fucking joy.
Learning how to look in themirror and not hate what you see.

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That's what we're gonnatalk about in this show.
So Andrea, this was theworst day of my life.
But at the same time, itwas the best day of my life.
I remember when, about 18 yearsago, I had injured my back, went
into pain management, came out a fewmonths later, addicted to pain pills,

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found myself into rehab center, theVirginia Beach psych, and I looked
in the mirror and I said, this isn'twhere the fuck I'm supposed to be.
So I did what I needed to do.
I followed a program, I,I did a 12 step program.
I found a sponsor.
I got clean, I did the work.

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But when I showed up at theprogram, I was fucking broken.
I was miserable.
I was pissed off, and I was angry.
And this kid, Justin comesup to me, he says, Hey, man.
He said, I love you.
And I remember thinking tomyself, fuck you motherfucker,
dude, I was white knuckling it.
I was fucked up and broken.

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And he said, you know whatI'm gonna do for you, Wes?
I'm like, no, man.
What are you gonna do for me?
And he said, I am gonna love you
until, until you learnhow to love yourself.

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And I looked at him,I said, fuck you dude.
Fuck you.
You know, I was arrogant.
I fucking was, had a great job.
I was doing things, youknow, this was a glitch.
This isn't who I am.
Fuck you.
I just need to getbetter and I'll be fine.
And I love Justin.

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And I remember when I called him acouple years ago, I said, Hey man.
And this is like 17, 16, 17 years later,
I said, remember that day that youtold me we'd take turns saving each
other and that you were gonna loveme till I learned how to love myself?

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He says, yeah, yeah, I do.
He said, I learned howto love myself, Justin.
I want to say thank you for holdingthe space for 17 years, for me
to learn how to fucking do that.
And you know, the funny thing is whenwe were talking, he's telling me about

(32:50):
something in his life and he needed me.
And I said, Justin, I'm gonna love youuntil you learn how to love yourself.
I mean, imagine that.
Imagine that, that after all thistime, this kid, 17 years ago was like

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20 some years old or whatever it was,looks at me and says, Hey, I'm gonna
love you until you can love yourself.
I, it changed everything for me.
I just didn't know howto process the change.
And that's what we're gonnatalk about on this show.

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How life happens for me, notto me that there's a version
of you that we haven't met yet.
And we're gonna find thatperson when we work together.
And I can't walk through hell foryou, but I can do it with you.
And I know the fucking shortcut, bro.

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I know the shortcut.
I've been there.
So that's what we'regonna talk about, Andrea.
Yeah.
That was a little emotionalfor me, so there's that.
Yeah.
It's, it's gonna be great.
You guys, this isn't just a, ashow about a haunted house, right?

(34:16):
Mm-hmm.
It's about how we heal and like Wes said,how we take turns saving each other.
Yeah.
The beauty and the painis just like in boot camp.
I had to be broken down to nothingto become something that haunted
house had to break me down to.
Nothing For me to become the manI'm supposed to be, for me to become

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the healer that I'm supposed to be.
For me to become the Reiki masterquantum healing expert that I am,
and when I work with Jesus, Jesuschanged his lives working through me.
It's a beautiful thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(35:00):
All right.
So all I gotta say is everyone buckle up.
Like fucking subscribe.
Go to VB Healer on Instagram.
You can follow us there and getall the updates about this show.
Um, also go to vb healer.com.
That's where you can contact us directlyand look at his healing work, um, because

(35:23):
you don't only just do in person, you do.
Remote healing.
So yeah, we can do remotework, we can do all that.
And one of the things you're gonnaexperience is a positive word for sure.
I might cuss a little bit ifyou haven't figured that out.
I'm the worst ordainedminister, but that's okay.
So Andrea, thank you forhelping me with the show.
I appreciate it.

(35:43):
Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your story, Wess.
All right, we'll seeeverybody next episode.
You've been listening to EnlightenmentUnknown with Wes Coons, your guide on
the quest for self-discovery and theversion of you we haven't met yet.
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