May 31, 2025 • 48 mins
Journey Through Spiritual Awakening with Summer Paradiso | Enlightenment Unknown - S5 E1
Join Reiki master and quantum healing expert Wes Coons in the latest episode of Enlightenment Unknown. In the premiere of Season 5, Wes takes a deep dive into the world of spiritual awakening with special guest Summer Paradiso. An intuitive and movement meditation guide, Summer shares her journey from discovering her psychic abilities to helping women reconnect with their intuition. Listen as they discuss connecting with the spirit realm, healing emotional wounds, and embracing one’s unique spiritual gifts. Tune in for a heartfelt and enlightening conversation that promises to inspire your own journey of self-discovery.
00:00 Introduction to Enlightenment Unknown
00:34 Season Five Kickoff
01:02 Special Guest: Summer Paradiso
01:21 Summer's Spiritual Journey
02:08 Experiences with the Spirit Realm
03:23 Challenges and Realizations
04:45 Mediumship and Personal Stories
05:45 Connecting with Spirit and Healing
07:18 Navigating Spiritual Gifts
18:36 Energy, Synchronicity, and Healing
21:54 Advice for Those with Spiritual Gifts
24:18 Introduction to Group and One-on-One Sessions
25:24 Details of the Eight-Week Program
26:58 Sharing Personal Healing Journeys
28:23 Gifts and Children's Books
30:14 Spiritual Experiences and Healing
43:22 The Importance of Creative Expression
45:54 Conclusion and Contact Information
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Welcome to Enlightenment UnknownLife of a Spiritual Nomad.
Join Reiki master and quantum healingexpert Wes Koons as he guides listeners
through the depths of self-discoveryand spiritual enlightenment to uncover
the version of you we haven't met yet.
You are beautiful.
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You're gifted, you're loved.
Every step you take raises your vibration,every breath you take heals your body.
Welcome back, everybody.
It is season five, episode one.
I can't believe we're in season five.
Thanks for tuning into the show.
I took a little break.
, I think the last time wespoke I was going up to.
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Spread my brother's ashes.
We're gonna talk about that another time,but that just took me a minute to process
and I just wanted to say I am grateful foryou and I appreciate the opportunity to.
Have you hear our message?
And I have a very special,super gifted, talented young
lady here today named Summer.
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Say hello, summer.
Hey guys.
How are you?
I'm doing great today.
Good.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Thank you for inviting me.
I'm very honored to be here.
Thank you.
So tell me about yourself.
Who are you?
What do you do?
My name is Summer Paradiso.
I am, first and foremost amother of two beautiful toddlers.
, I am a wife and I like to helpwomen reconnect with their intuition
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and their bodies through movement,meditation, and creative expression.
Nice.
I love that.
Mm-hmm.
That's cool.
. One of the best things I've hadthe opportunity to experience is
meeting all these super powerfulwomen, , Rocky and Beth, and we've
got a lot of friends in common.
Yeah.
But, , I, I love Rocky 'cause herbirthday's on the Marine Corps birthday.
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Yeah.
That's special.
Yeah.
We have a littleextra, , connection there.
So what does that mean?
How do you Well, actually,let's take two steps back.
, have you always been gifted?
I mean, what does that look like for you?
, Well what's really interesting is thisweek is the one year anniversary of
me learning that I could connect withpast loved ones or people in spirit.
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, I have always, so that was, is alittle bit fresher, a little bit new,
but I've always been kind of, I guessyou'd say into the woo, I've always
been enamored with crystals and earthand our connection to everything.
, and I've always been that friend who'sa little bit, , like we're summer or
she's frolicking in the woods somewhere,
?, but it isn't until.
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Recently that I've fully been able toincorporate all of these different facets
and interests that I have into one.
A beautiful piece that can serve people.
, I think I had been searching fora while, looking on the yoga
path, looking at meditation,looking at artistic expression.
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And I had taught all of those indifferent areas, but I was never
able to bring them all together.
And it's just been this past year thatI have found this really beautiful kind
of melody of using all of them together.
And it's, and it's been really cool.
That's exciting.
Good for you.
Mm-hmm.
It's funny how God will putthings in front of you and then
systematically place them all intosynchronicity so they work, right?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've also found that if Iignore his whisper, it gets painful.
It gets quite loud and repetitive.
Yeah.
It gets painful for me, man, that,, I'm hardheaded, so Yeah, I'm, I'm
same though, and it's if the pebbleand a rock, then a boulder always.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So.
Now I always like to ask this question.
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Do you see dead people?
, I don't see them like walking aroundlike sixth sense status, but mm-hmm.
When I take a moment to tune in,I will see pictures in my third
eye and they'll show me differentimages, kind of like a movie.
And in that way I, I see them, butno, I'm not just like walking on
the street and then seeing, , orbsand, and dead people in that regard.
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No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That one's fun.
I can promise though.
Yeah.
There, there was a little videoon Facebook yesterday and I
sent it to some friends and.
It was a husband and wife, and they weretalking to this priest and the nun and
the nun have these gifts and she couldsee this demon standing behind them.
And I sent it to my friends.
I'm like, oh yeah, here's aDana Life of Wes right there.
Oh, you can see that stuff?
Yeah.
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It's, , it, it could be interesting, but.
, it is what it is.
Do you see them walkingaround and Sometimes yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of times it's, it's, it's a flash.
Like, , if somebody has something insidethem, , maybe they'll turn away, but the
demon that is there will show itself.
Okay.
And it, it is interesting.
A lot of people that do paranormalpodcasts are reaching out and I'm on
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their show and somebody let me know theother day, they don't believe in demons.
And I'm like, all right.
, I mean, you do a paranormal podcastand you talk about all this stuff,
but it is, it is interesting.
Everybody has their own thoughts.
So, I call 'em demons and noteverything I see is like that.
But,
. Yeah, it can be kind ofpainful sometimes too.
So especially if I make eyecontact, they will psychically
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attack me in my third eye.
It'll be fairly painful.
Oh, wow.
, yeah, I'm not afraid of 'em.
I just.
Somebody asked me the other day, he says,do you go out and seek out these entities?
And I'm like, dude, I don't needto go to the bad section of the
town to get my ass kicked to knowit's the bad section of town.
You're like, they cometo me, it's all good.
Yeah, yeah.
I, I'm good.
So I stay in my lane, , I do my joband , if they step in front, we do do
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something different and go from there.
But yeah, it's interesting.
I don't always see that type of stuff.
I see.
. Yeah.
I'll see dead people, I'll seechildren and stuff like that.
That can be hard to see sometimes.
Yeah.
That's so interesting.
I, it is just been really cool beingable to connect with more mediums and
people who can connect with, , the spiritrealm and just seeing how incredibly
different it is for each person.
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Mm-hmm.
And how that uniqueness is reallylike, it really creates this
robust experience for everyone withhow we share it with the world.
And I just think that's reallycool and really different.
Yeah, it is Cool.
I, and.
, I only found out about thisstuff like five, six years ago.
My spiritual awakening turnedon kind of overnight and,
. When I thought about it, I waslike, well, if somebody's psychic,
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it's all gonna be the same.
So you're gonna see the same,feel the same, but it's not, it's
as unique as your fingerprint.
It's beautiful.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's something I'velearned too in over some time.
So, yeah, it's very interesting.
So I find that interesting.
You said you, you, yousee it in your third eye.
What does that feel like?
I don't understand whatthat, what you mean by that.
Well, I close my eyes and typically thingsjust start to play out like a movie.
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And I see it.
It's as if I'm looking up and into thespace between my eyebrows and my forehead,
and I see the pictures, I see the colors.
I see.
Sometimes it's from the perspective of thespirit or the person who's speaking to me.
Mm-hmm.
And so like I'll see their hands doingsomething or I'll see their feet or I'll
see the people in front of them, , toprovide evidence of who it is and and.
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It's, it's very much like a, like alittle sitcom or a little movie that
plays in front of me and . I starttalking about the, , things that I'm
seeing to my sitters so that they canvalidate, , what's coming through.
Mm-hmm.
And know that, know who'strying to communicate with them.
Nice.
So how long have you beendoing it professionally?
November of last year.
Nice.
Yeah, so I literally, , in a fewdays will be the one year anniversary
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that I. It was overnight for me too.
It was like a light switch andI was like, okay, I, I am not
a stranger to this concept.
I'm open.
And I think my openness to just receivemessages and my openness to just kind
of roll with the punches has allowedme to , move into this quite quickly.
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And so that was May of last year, andthen it was November that I. , came
out to social media as, as a medium.
, nice.
And I was really nervous aboutthat and I'm not sure why.
'cause once I was out, everyone waslike, oh yeah, that tracks, like, it
wasn't really a surprise to anyone.
Yeah.
That, that didn't track for me.
No.
I could promise.
Yeah.
So I know when mine turned on, , I don'tknow if you know my story, but I went
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through this haunted house and at the end.
All these gifts were here.
I'm like, okay, what's this?
And , you go back six years ago,I, I can promise you we would
not be having this conversation.
Yeah.
And , it took me a minutebefore I went on social media.
Okay, we're back.
We had a little technical difficulty.
Wes forgot to plug the system in.
The batteries went dead, so there's that.
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So yeah, everything kind of turnedon and I don't know, one day I just
started putting stuff on social media.
, I, I ran a, i, I still, I stillrun a real estate company.
So for me, the transition was so easy.
It was bizarre.
Everybody just, people startedreaching out and they said, Hey,
I've known you for 25 years, andif you say it's real, it's real.
And that really surprised me.
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I wasn't expecting that.
So good for you for having the courageto, to step forward, to step into
that place and then go, public.
'cause , it could be a littleisolating sometimes, right?
Yeah.
In the beginning.
When I first first started communicatingwith Spirit, it was very isolating.
'cause I wasn't sure whoI could talk to about it.
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I, , I've, I've watched the mediumshows, like Tyler Henry and Risa Caputo.
Mm-hmm.
And it's always been fun to talk about,but to actually be like, Hey, I'm
talking to my brother-in-law in spiritand I need to talk to someone about it.
, I, I was a little lonely with it and it.
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It felt hard to find an anchorin not being able to communicate.
'cause I, I'm a verbal processor.
I like to communicate withothers about what's going on.
, almost as like a validationof my experience.
And so I immediately started goingonline, looking for Facebook groups,
looking for opportunities to practice.
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Mm-hmm.
And I did, I found a couplegroups where they met.
On Monday nights and had a practice group.
I mean this is like people fromEngland, Croatia, Australia,
like all on the same Zoom call.
And nice, it was a really greatopportunity for me to learn how I receive
messages and to practice with people thatI definitely didn't know anything about.
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And to also be validated that,, there's 20 other people on this
call who are somewhere in theworld who are doing the same thing.
And that was reallyvalidating and really cool.
And once I started putting myselfout there, some people surprised me.
They started coming forth and they'relike, Hey, like we know you've been
kind of woo woo, but I trust youand I wanna know what this is about.
And, and so it's been, it's beenreally cool especially to hear
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from some people who are like, Hey.
I can do this too, butI've never told a soul.
Mm-hmm.
And they've been doingit like their whole life.
And that has been the coolest part.
I'm like, there's way more peoplewalking the streets who are
communicating with spirit than Ithink the average person realizes.
Oh, absolutely.
God is calling us to the,calling us to the table big time.
, all our children are comingthrough spiritually awakened.
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And , it's funny sometimesI'll see typically probably
six months or less an infant.
And I can see their third eye open.
It's like, almost like a flashlightand the look on their face or
seen and feeling everything.
I was like, that's cool.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
It's really cool to see with my kidstheir, their connection and, I think
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that might be my favorite part isbeing able to see what they're saying.
Mm-hmm.
And to understand andto not be scared of it.
How does your husband deal with that?
, well, first of all, we've known eachother since eighth grade, so we know
each other really well, and he justloves me, for me, and he listens.
Mm-hmm.
He's curious.
And he also is the, the analyticalnumbers of the relationship.
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Thank God we need one of 'em.
Yes.
Yeah.
, and so he listens and sometimes he's like.
I don't know, man, that'slike a little outside of my
like empirical evidence brain.
But he's open.
Mm-hmm.
He's open to it.
What, what line of work is he in?
He is in healthcare consulting.
Oh yeah.
, they're ultra spiritual there.
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Yeah.
So they're doing good stuff over there.
They're doing a lot ofpreventative care and whatnot.
But, , not a lot of Woo.
And Crystal's going on, so, well, I mean,he's in corporate, corporate America.
Mm-hmm.
You can't really be any more corporate.
I don't think so.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah.
But he's, he's good at it, buthe, , he's, we can't, I can't out him
too much, but he's, he's more openthan he leads on 'cause he or he at
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least listens to me and, , is curious.
Yeah.
I always find it curious how,, somebody's significant other.
, looks at things, especially ifthey don't have the connection.
, not everybody does, and that's okay.
Not everybody, I don't thinkeverybody's supposed to.
And like you said, you'vegot the ying and the yang.
You've got that grounding aspect becausein this work it could be kind of, you
can get out there a little bit, right?
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Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And I know when what.
, early on through that, my processwith the haunted house, I, I ended up
meeting a, a woman named Sandra GraceBrooks, and she was my first friend my
first healer, and she was my friend.
She died two years ago, I think yesterday.
Oh.
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And I remember asking her.
, how do you find people that do this work?
And she's like, oh, wedon't talk about it.
And that's that old school versionas you don't talk about it.
Yeah.
And I remember it was like, , I cuss alittle bit and I'm like, , fuck that dude.
Because I was, I was running for my life.
And I don't know if you guyscan hear that on the show, but
United States Navy flying over.
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But , I'm just like, , I made thecommitment that I was gonna tell
everybody that this was real, becausesomebody needs to hear the message,
somebody needs to hear that there's anopportunity, somebody needs to hear.
There's a lifeline if you're in trouble.
And the reality is, is you're not crazy.
Now, there's a differencebetween being nuts and crazy.
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So, and, , I, I felt likeI was losing my mind.
, I, I didn't have gifts, Ididn't have any of that stuff.
And all of a sudden I was seeingthings, I was feeling things I could
touch a a, a bowl that hold heldfruit and I could taste the fruit.
And I'm just like, okay, , what's this?
And, , my family was panicked.
It, it was hard.
So yeah, there's a lot of peopleout there that have suffered.
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I believe my mom had lots of giftsand I think that's one of the
reasons she really struggled in life.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's really interestingyou bring that up.
I, I've connected, I realize thatI have a pretty strong connection
to one of my grandmothers who Ididn't ever meet in physical plane.
And I talk to her a lot now and there'sthis realization that there, , she had
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gifts too . Growing up in the fiftiesand having seven children is not really
an opportunity to explore those giftsor be able, be able to have an out.
And so her, her call to me is, has been,, like, like continue to do this, like
spread it like this, this is here, it's inthe lineage, and, and that's been really.
Interesting to explore and communicatingwith her, and it's really cool to be able
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to have a relationship with someone thatI never thought I would get to meet, so.
Right.
That's also really special.
Yeah.
I got to meet my uncleRobert died in Vietnam.
Actually, his anniversary was last weekof his death, but he died I think 18
months to the day before I was born.
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And I feel to the second, , forsome reason there's that
deep connection with him.
Mm-hmm.
And I have met him a couple timesin spirit and, and it's interesting,
, it's like, hey, , as he steppedforward, I knew exactly who it was.
Yeah.
, I could see, I, I just,I, I, I just knew it.
And , it was interesting how that works.
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And I've seen instances where I'vehad a client on the table and.
, the, there, her deceased husbandcame in, her grandparents came
in, she had had a miscarriage,we're helping take the baby home.
Mm-hmm.
And that day was so uniquely connected.
I mean, I, they told, I, I don't knowwho told me where it comes from, , 'cause
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I don't study mediumship really?
I could do it sometimes.
I don't know how to turn it on.
Mm-hmm.
, either it comes or it doesn't.
Mm-hmm.
But I knew what color truckher grandfather drove.
I mean, they showed me the pictureof her house, her grandmother, I
mean in ex extraordinary detail.
They even gave me the name ofthe person she was on the phone
with before she got to my office,and I'd never met her before.
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They had a message then they hadand they wanted you to know it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
Her, her, her deceased husband was aNavy Seal and so, , it was beautiful.
And I, I felt so bad she cried sohard through the whole session.
Yeah.
I mean, there were so many thingshappening with the baby, the, the,
the, the husband just passed away,the, the grandparents and everything.
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And I was so grateful that I was ableto see that, hear that and deliver
that message for her, healing for her.
Yeah.
And it can be overwhelmingsometimes, , then, then that,
that human brain kicks in.
At least it does for me.
I'm like.
Am I making it up or is that real?
Yeah, that was, that was definitelya big thing for me in the beginning.
I I'm Taurus Sun and Moon, soI'm a very grounded person.
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And I, I have to turn it on.
It doesn't come to me just kindof like driving or anything.
I need to sit and I need to, kindof turn that dial up in my brain
to be able to connect to spirit.
Mm-hmm.
Oh no, I forgot what I was talking about.
, with the, oh, the, with the messagescoming through though, like how
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healing isn't always pretty.
But I find, like when I do readings forpeople, , you're talking about like all
those past loved ones came through forthat woman and , she had a big release and
that you felt bad 'cause she was crying.
But it's one of those where.
Especially for me and my readings,I promise you that you'll
receive a message that you need.
Mm-hmm.
Probably not one that you want.
(17:57):
Sure.
And so with that mightcome some discomfort.
It might, there might be some resistance.
. A lot of my people in my readingsare like, this is like 10 years of
therapy, like balled up into one andI'm like, I go straight for your deepest
shit because that's what comes up.
Mm-hmm.
And that's what comes through and it.
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You might feel really tired and depletedat the end of it, but it's because
you have just released something big.
Absolutely.
And and that's why, , that brings me joyto know that I'm helping people release
this stuff that they're carrying around.
Mm-hmm.
Well, we talk about on theshow all the time, you can.
I believe you can heal in asecond if you know how to do it.
, there's, there's a cheat code and,and, and I believe that starts
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with understanding that lifehappens for you and not to you.
And, and, , just these different thoughtprocesses and, and understanding how
energy works and that everything'sa direct reflection of yourself.
And, , one of the biggest things,Tay helped me understand all this
at the Reiki Wellness Center.
Mm-hmm.
She's a very good friend of mine.
It was, I think one of the biggestturning points for me on that was
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when I, I came to the realizationI could rewrite my story.
Yeah.
, because I believed I was X.
Mm-hmm.
Well, I wasn't x that X wasa sentence or a paragraph in
the back of the book of West.
And the reality is I canbe anything that I want.
And, , things have changed so much for me.
It's really crazy.
Yeah.
? Yeah.
So, , a, a fun thing is,, everything's energy, right?
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Yeah.
And so I was trying to buy my dad'sbuilding from him recently and.
, in the human world, in the 3D world,I don't think I necessarily qualified.
, I'm in real estate, so on the yearsthat I'm gonna buy something, I show
more income, then you show less income,, you can write off different things.
(19:45):
Mm-hmm.
So long story short, that door keptclosing, but it wasn't until I sat down.
And I forgave my dad.
Over some stuff.
And when I let that go and I senthim this really long text and thanked
him for everything he's done forthe entire family his whole life.
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All of a sudden Iqualified for the building.
Isn't that weird?
From the same bank that turnedme down six months prior.
Mm-hmm.
How's that even possible when?
They're technically just lookingat numbers on a piece of paper?
It's, yeah, I, I feel like somethingalong those lines with energy.
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Happens just daily andit, I am always surprised.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't know why I am, like, Iliterally, , this is what I'm interacting
with daily is synchronicities andenergy and , the second you release one
thing, another door opens and it's just.
I don't know.
I'm just in, in awe and wonder of howmuch we can literally create Yeah.
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What's in front of us and I, butI'm still surprised every time.
Alright, well I've gotten, I'vegotten to the point now, if I
want to talk to somebody, I justthink about 'em for a second.
I. And I know within 24hours they're gonna call.
Yeah.
And that just happens.
And the weird thing is, I can dothe same thing, and I don't know how
Facebook stalks our brain, but itfeels like Facebook stalks our brain.
Isn't that weird?
There's some sort of psychicthing happening there.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
And Instagram, all of 'em, thealgorithm knows it's mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Wild.
Yeah.
That's creepy.
So,
I don't know how that one works.
I will say though, I love, I lovethe Instagram algorithm and the
Facebook AL algorithm for sales andshopping, which, , some people are
like, why are they listening to me?
And I'm like, you know what?
Target me.
I want those yoga pants.
(21:29):
I want.
Yeah.
Like I. I want the thing,so I'm good with it.
Well, they keep showing me $300,000sports cars, so I'm like, there it
must be divine interventions sayingWes, you need a new sports car.
Right?
Well, and now I'm gonna start gettingads for $300,000 sports cars on
my phone because it's right there.
So, yeah.
Well they say money doesn't buy happiness,but damn my Maserati, I sure am a
little bit happier when I'm crying.
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That's funny.
But, so, let me ask you this.
If, if, if somebody's listening tothe show and they've got these gifts,
what would you recommend to them?
Especially if they're struggling?
Oh, God, DM me, please.
I, I wanna connect with you.
But if you are struggling, you, especiallyfor those of you who might have someone
really important in your life whoyou feel like is gonna react in an
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unfavorable way or reject you, or , notwanna be close to you anymore, then.
I would just say, listen towhat spirit's telling you.
Connect with your guides, let it happen.
Mm-hmm.
And . It will unfold for you.
I, I, anytime I've tried to forcesomething, doesn't always go great.
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Patience is one of my bigkarmic lessons this lifetime.
But I think just continuing tokeep that link between you and
spirit, continuing to communicate.
People are going to, to come to you.
Once you kind of open up that energypeople are gonna start coming to you
and it might be a little trickles.
It might be one person one week andanother person in another month.
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But you're gonna starthaving opportunities to,
do readings if you want to.
I've met a number of people who,have kind of secretly told me like,
I can do it, but I don't want.
I don't want to do what you're doing,and I'm like, that's, that's okay.
There might be, it might be justfor you to be receiving information
to share it in a different way.
Sure.
Like, everyone's, everyone'sstory looks different.
So, I mean, that was kind of a long way ofanswering as, as I have a tendency to do.
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But if they're craving connection tosomeone, my first answer is DM me.
'cause I, I have loads, maybe I'm not yourperson to talk to, but I know a lot of.
Of other mediums now.
'cause I've, I've been reaching,reaching out all the hands and
all the places to meet people.
So what's your Instagram?
It is my name.
It is easy.
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It is summer, S-U-M-M-E-R,underscore Paradiso.
P-A-R-A-D-I-S-O underscore.
And it's just my little face there.
And and I share, I share stuff about my,my program that I have which was the.
The movement, meditation and creativeexpression I share about my readings.
There's lots of different waysyou can, you can work with me.
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Nice.
So I think it also says that you dobecause I left my notes in the other
room because that's what West does isyou, you mentor people and stuff, right?
Yeah.
So I, I have a group programactually going on right now.
It's my eight week transformation.
So it's a very compact littlecontainer that where we.
We go deep hearted fast.
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And so that's my, my group container.
But I do work one-on-one with people.
I typically I'd say like entry level, ifyou're like, is this chick even for me?
Like, do I wanna work with her?
Mm-hmm.
Do I like the way that she channels?
Then you would just book aone-on-one reading with me.
Yeah.
And if you want more, if you're reallycraving, like, I can connect with spirit,
or I want to connect with spirit, or youjust want to connect with your intuition
(24:45):
because mm-hmm you're disconnected and youlike don't even know what you're doing.
You can work with me one-on-one and,and that is not overly official.
You just DM me and I send you the salespage and you decide if you, if you wanna
work with me, . It's so hard to describebecause I do so many different things.
Like I, we might do some reiki, wemight do some creative expression.
(25:06):
Mm-hmm.
We might do a little bitof ancestral healing.
I worked with one of myone-on-one clients last week.
We actually cleared her house 'causethere was a lot of negative energy
still there from a past relationship.
So it.
Really is so specific to what you need.
Nice.
And that just takes megetting to know you.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So in the eight week program,are you teaching people how to do
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mediumship or what are you doing?
No.
So that one's more focusedon energy unblocking.
Mm-hmm.
An emotional unblocking.
So as you're probablyno stranger, we mm-hmm.
Create physical manifestationsof emotional wounds.
I think if anyone listeningprobably understands that.
And so the big focus is,is emotional unblocking.
And we work through kind ofa chakra theme each week.
(25:49):
I am a teacher by, by trade,so I, have my little mm-hmm.
My slideshows and stuff.
But we.
Do we have a movement flow, wehave a meditation and then creative
expression prompts for each week.
And then I have a whole portal ofdifferent videos that people can kind
of plug and play whenever they feel goodand they're, it's anything from a three
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minute like seated grounding meditationto like a 60 minute, like super deep
dive into visiting your divine feminine.
So it really is kind of a variety.
Yes.
And we meet once a week andkind of debrief and talk about.
About what's going on and.
I really love people havein individual access to me.
I love a voice memo.
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Love a voice memo.
Mm-hmm.
Anyone send me a voice memo onInstagram, you're my best friend.
But the group context is what's reallycool is because all these women come,
come from different, parts of life.
Some are moms, some are notmoms, some are entrepreneurs,
some are, in corporate world.
And yet we're all crisscrossingwith the same emotional blocks and
same different types of wounds.
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And so it's really beautifulwhen the experience is shared.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so that's whatwe're doing right now.
We're in week two in my program.
Yay.
Nice.
Yeah, I, I think it's importantto share, I share quite openly
about my past and stuff, and.
It helps me heal.
Mm-hmm.
However, I know there's somebodylistening that can't say those words.
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Yeah.
And it helps them see, I'm not alone.
Yeah.
That happened to him.
Wow.
That happened to me.
I'm not the only person here.
I'm not this odd, this oddball out.
Yeah.
So it's a healing journeyis a beautiful thing.
Yeah.
And I, and I think it's, as you're sayingthat too, I think it's really beautiful.
'cause there's some people whoyou, you don't have to share.
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Your whole healing journey online.
If that's not for you, maybe you'reworking one-on-one with someone or
something, but it, it's, if you'recool with sharing, then please do.
Mm-hmm.
Because, and like, I'm, I'm like that too.
Like I, I wanna share because ifit's one person if sees it and
is like, oh my God, that's me.
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And then they.
It can take a leap of faith into somethingthat they maybe wouldn't have otherwise
had they not seen that one person do it.
I just think it's so valuable tobe able to like shout from the
mountaintops if you're comfortable.
Shout from the mountaintops.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I worked on a, a, a friend ofmine last week and she said, I
feel like you sprinkled pixiedust or something on my face.
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She's just like been glowing andooh, removing those blocks and stuff.
I'm like, good for you.
Yeah.
Good for you.
I'm here for the glitter and pixie dust.
That sounds great.
Yeah.
Right.
So we got, oh, before Iforget, I got you a couple gif.
Oh.
So I've got two copies of, oneis What Color Is Your Dragon?
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And the other is, is Sidney's new bike.
That's the book that Andrea and I wrote,oh my God, . And I thought maybe your
children might wanna listen or read that.
And the book is about.
Learning how to love themselfand affirmations and connecting
with people that don't look likeyou and think they're beautiful.
These are so sweet.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
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Oh my gosh.
And that'll really mix up ourour evening bluey book marathon.
Yeah.
No, thank you.
These are so sweet.
And as an artist, theseillustrations are adorable.
Thanks.
Yeah.
We talk about grounding and stuffin there and there's also a summary
in the back for parents really thatdon't understand what that means.
Yeah.
And then there's littleaffirmation cards in there.
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It's fun.
. Andrea had asked me to write thosebooks for a very long time and I mean,
the honest answer is she said, Wes, Iwant you to do this book on dragons.
'cause I work with dragonsand I. And I didn't want to.
Then I was kind of dating somebody at thetime and I'm like, that that energy is
just gonna, it's not gonna flow, right?
And I just didn't, Ididn't feel a connection.
(29:35):
So that person and I stopped seeingeach other, and she asked me again.
She sent me an email.
And I'm like, okay, okay.
And it's strange, like withindays of me saying, saying,
okay, Jesus, Jesus showed me.
The books, I drew the pictures out ofevery page, and Andrea is so brilliant,
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she came in and she, she put, put all thejust basically put everything together.
She made it happen.
So, but yeah, Jesus putthose books together.
It's really cool.
And the, and the dragon in my mindrepresents, it's a higher power.
It represents Jesus.
Right.
So you're looking up to your higher power.
Yeah, I think it's, I think it's soimportant that things like this are
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being created so that kids can growup thinking, no, not thinking, but
knowing that, these gifts are realand important and valued because a lot
of people that I, I talk to now who.
Saw spirits when they were younger andthen no longer did, and then had to
like, kind of reclaim that ability.
(30:40):
Mm-hmm.
But it's because they were told it wasn'treal or they were not validated Sure.
At a young age.
And actually really just ashort story to share when I
was teaching middle school art.
And this was before, I had ameditation practice and yoga practice
and but I didn't know that I couldcommunicate with, with spirit yet.
And I had this, thisstudent, he was so precious.
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He, this is sixth grade, and he alwayswould kind of like linger after class.
Like he, and then kind of like wander off.
And he didn't have a lot of friends.
He was just kind of a loner.
And there was one day he came up tomy desk and he was like, miss p. I,
I can talk to people who have died.
Like I, I see them and they talk tome and, and they told me to tell you,
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and wow, this was, this was like 2018.
This was a long time, well,not that long, but long enough
ago before I knew, and yeah.
And I just remember saying.
Saying, thank you for telling me.
And if you ever need to talkto anybody, I'm here for you.
I, and he was like, no one believes me.
And I said, I believe you.
And I, I am proud in that momentthat I validated him, validated him,
(31:50):
but I'm also proud of him for comingto tell me, because that was just
one of those little breadcrumbs inmy path that has led to this point.
And it's just moments like that,that, are so special and valuable
and just think is really cool.
So, absolutely.
That breaks my heart for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and I, maybe he'll hearthis podcast or maybe he'll have
someone that helps validate him.
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'cause I, sure.
I think school is already hardenough and for those who are already
really spiritually open, um mm-hmm.
I think it is just that much harder.
To deal with.
Yeah.
Well, especially nowadays, I mean,you can identify as a turnip, not
trying to be rude, but you can.
And that's supposed to be accepted.
And the reality is when I know whatit was like when I grew up and it
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was hard enough when there was onesex, you're either man or a woman.
Mm-hmm.
And you know you wanted to fit in.
Now you've got all these otherparameters people have put in place.
And I couldn't imagine how confusingit is for our children and.
It's, it is just, it's just a struggle.
Then you add in these spiritualgifts that these children are being
(32:59):
born with and coming in, and that'swhy we created this, because you go
to your mom or to the teacher andsay, Hey, I talked to dead people.
You're gonna go to a psychiatrist,they're gonna medicate you, and
you're going down that rabbit hole.
Mm-hmm.
And maybe that may.
Be a real thing for that person,but the reality is maybe it's not.
Maybe that person is seen andhearing in other dimensions,
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and that's why I tell the story.
That's why we wrote the books.
Mm-hmm.
We wanted to save our childrenand it, I believe families that
heal together, stay together.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah.
You know they do.
Mm-hmm.
And our babies need us.
And if you're not open, thisgives you the opportunity to
talk to your child a little bit.
(33:43):
And welcome to the hippie world.
I call it.
It's like Lakota.
Do you know Lakota?
The medicine woman?
Lakota?
No.
You sent me her info andI'm stalking, so Yeah.
Yeah, she's coming in town this weekend.
I and seen her this last weekend anddid some workup on her property, but
listening to her connect is unreal.
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I mean, the things that she cansee, the things that she can do, and
she does healing work in her sleep,and she remembers it the next day.
I'm like, how do you doall that and be rested?
Ooh, like astral travel status?
Yeah.
Like, oh, cool girl.
How did she not need caffeine?
Because I feel like.
It's exhausting to do astral traveland then be in mom the next day.
Yeah.
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It's very hard to do.
I have no idea.
But, she's the one that savedme in that haunted house.
She's the one I had to gothrough this rebirthing ceremony.
So I had two exorcisms and then the thirdone was with her, was this native American
rebirthing ceremony where I had to diga grave lay in my grave for 18 hours.
What?
Yeah, it, it, it, it was, it was a lot.
(34:49):
This is.
So this is like a different kind of,when, when you're talking about like
seeing demons and kind of these negativeenergies and stuff that it seems like
you, you were interacting with a lot.
It's, it's so interesting tolisten to because I, I don't
have any experience with that.
I, I don't feel like I've had anyexperience with, this is a common
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question too, so I, I wanna touch on it.
Where people are like, do you have any.
Past loved ones who say something reallymean to their the living person that
you're talking to, or do you have any,demons come through or being possessed
and I, I'm new in my communicating spiritwith spirit journey, so I definitely
have my, my tools and my practices tomake sure that I'm protecting myself.
(35:33):
But I still have not, I, Ihave not had any experiences
that are anything other than.
Love, love and light.
Mm-hmm.
And I do just wanna say that ifanyone's ever interested in a reading
with me, I, I, I don't seem to bemagnetic for, for these darker energies.
Mm-hmm.
I just find it fascinating the, theexperience of, of other people and, yeah.
(35:55):
And laying in a grave for 18hours sounds really traumatic.
I'm not gonna lie, Wes,that sounds like, yeah.
The funny thing through that wholeepisode of that nine months, that was
like the most relaxing part for me.
, I mean there was instances my buddyTy went through the process with me.
And I had forgotten this and, and atone time I had lifted my shirt and
(36:17):
you could see a face from the insideof my skin pressing out of my body.
What?
Yeah.
That, that was nervewracking as fucking shit.
Okay.
I was supposed to be like, what the fuck?
Can we say that?
My god.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was it was an extraordinary.
Process and I wouldn't recommend it.
Yeah.
Do not re zero outta 10.
Recommend.
Yeah.
And so, just because I wentthrough it doesn't, and like you
(36:40):
said, it doesn't mean when I dohealing work, that stuff shows up.
It's just was my process becauseI had to go through that process.
'cause I didn't believe God was real.
I didn't believe Jesus was real.
I thought the Bible was a good bookthat these fucking idiots purchased
and they just, it was a gimmick.
I thought it was a gimmick.
Mm-hmm.
I didn't know Jesus was a Jew.
I didn't know.
He was crucified by the Romans.
I knew nothing because Iwas molested as a child.
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And in my mind, if, if, if hewas real, why would that happen?
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And Father Munford helped me understandby going through almost like a little
baby meditation, he, he made me go backto right before I was, was raped, right?
Mm-hmm.
And, and he said, now stop.
And I want you to look aroundthe room and look for Jesus.
(37:26):
And I remember being so furious with that.
And the short version of that was Ilooked over and I seen him crying and
he said, I told him, I said, father,I, I, I, I see, I see, I see him.
And he said, what did he say, son?
I said, you didn't have to say anything'cause he's crying, and that's when.
I came to the realization Jesus isn'there to pull me outta that room.
(37:50):
As a parent, we can't walk withour babies everywhere, through
everything and save them, but wecan love them through everything.
Mm-hmm.
And Jesus loves us through the process.
And, he could.
He could, I guess maybe hecould, but that's not his job.
His job wasn't to pull me outta that room.
His job was to love me.
And he did, even when I didn'tlove myself, and even when I
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didn't even recognize that hewas here, that he was real.
So, going through that process,I simply put, I needed to
get my ass fucking wore out.
To come to the realization because Icould see the demons and I believed that.
'cause I, I mean, you could clearlysee 'em, you could, there, I
had hundreds of pictures of it.
I'd take a picture with mycamera or the security cameras
(38:33):
in the house, you could see them.
So I'm like, if that's real thenyou know, I mean, is God real?
You gotta, in my logical mind, youcouldn't have one without the other.
So I had to go through thisprocess to pay attention.
'cause if he did it lightly, I wouldn'tbe doing this healing work right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I, I, I think that when thosemessages come through, really
(38:55):
the person that was here is notthe one that you're talking to.
It's their higher self.
Is that, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Is that higher self and that higher self.
I talk about a lot that I. If you andI were in relationship and it was a
really bad breakup and one of the twoof us hurt the other person that in
3D form here, there's this anger orwhatever, but in heaven we loved each
(39:18):
other so much that I came, or you camehere to give those lessons of betrayal
to me, for me to heal from that, right?
Mm-hmm.
So I like to think.
That our higher selves, especiallywhen you've been hurt by somebody that
that higher self of that person lovedyou so much that they destroyed you.
So you can go through the experiencethat you guys agreed upon in heaven and
(39:40):
now it's your turn to heal and elevate.
Yeah, I, on that note too, I I've had anumber of sitters that I've read for who.
During the reading have been frustratedbecause the person who's coming through
is the higher self is after the lifereview is, this the not how they showed
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up in, in 3D plane, they, they mighthave been abusive, alcoholic, kind
of, super destructive in, in 3D.
And so my sitter's expecting that toshow up again with, with an, I'm sorry.
And, and what happens is the, the elevatedversion of themselves, the higher version
of themselves is coming through to show.
(40:24):
To finally show the love, like how muchI, I love you, how much I acknowledge
you, and I want to, acknowledge thisexperience that happened between us, this
contract that happened between us to helpmake you the person that you are today.
And it's a really hard thing to explainto someone that you're reading for
'cause it can be quite upsetting to.
(40:46):
Be talking to the higher version and belike, well, why didn't I get the higher
version of you when you were here?
Sure.
And it was their contract.
Yeah.
It was their contract.
And it is hard.
It's hard to explain.
And, and I'm still learning.
Every day I learn something.
Every reading I learn something.
And.
It is just one of those thingsthat, like, from how I, from what I
understand, from the readings that I'vedone, from people I've talked to, it
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is, it is part of the soul contract.
It's what your soul needsto learn in this lifetime.
And it it never is easy, is it?
No, no.
Yeah.
So, Trina said somethingto me a while back.
And she said, we're not here to suffer.
We're here to struggle.
Just like the butterfly, whenthe butterfly is born, if I were
(41:30):
to cut the cocoon open and helpthe butterfly, it's gonna die.
Mm-hmm.
If the butterfly struggles, it pushesblood to its wings, it gives it
strength, and it grows and, and prospers,struggling is growth in healing.
Suffering is 3D human form.
Mm-hmm.
, I adopted the sufferingmindset for a very long time.
(41:53):
Yeah.
I don't suffer anymore.
I didn't know any better.
Yeah.
Nobody teaches this stuff.
That's why I tell it to everybody, and
it's just, it changes thingsat such a deep level quickly.
I'm like, why is this not on 60 minutes?
Why is this not taught in school?
I guess the same reason theydidn't teach me how to balance
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a checkbook when I was in.
Yeah, well we don't even needto get started on that one.
But the,
I think it's like there, there's sucha push and pull and probably better
if we don't get into education system.
'cause I've.
I'm no longer teaching in,in public school system.
I understand.
But, for whoever's listening,developing these tools for yourself
(42:38):
and sharing them with our youth isimperative for raising our collective
vibration and elevating consciousness.
'cause otherwise we do get stuck inthat suffering loop because we, we
don't, we don't fucking know any better.
Like, yeah, that's, and that's the norm.
And so, I'm really grateful for peoplelike you who are, creating books
(42:59):
and, and sharing these tools so that.
We can slowly but surely normalize them.
Mm-hmm.
Well, you're startinga podcast soon, right?
Yeah.
I'm so excited.
I do not have a specific date,but yes, I'm starting a podcast.
It'll be called TheSoul and Spirit Podcast.
Nice.
I like that.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I love that for you.
Good for you.
Yeah.
(43:19):
Yeah.
That's gonna be fun.
So you're an artist as well, right?
I am multi-talented.
Yeah.
I, I am an artist that hasbeen, my form of expression
since I couldn't hold a crayon.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My superpower is I talk shit.
So you talk that your superpower.
Yeah.
Okay.
I love that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I, I am an artist andthat was kind of the third.
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Puzzle piece.
I, I like to think of well,any of my nineties kids,
legends of the Hidden Temple.
Did you ever watch that Uhuh?
No.
It was, it was a Nickelodeon show.
I always think about This was likethe, the monkey had like the last piece
of the puzzle to like win the prize.
'cause I had, I developed ameditation practice after going
on a silent meditation retreat.
In Thailand that my friend dragged me to.
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Never had a side note, neverhaving meditated before, and
then going to sit with a bunchof monks for 10 days in silence.
That was wild.
But hey, I know I learned how tomeditate very quickly and then, getting
certified as a yoga teacher and so,so understanding this movement and
meditation portion and being an artistalong alongside it, but, I started
teaching in the public school system,I kind of lost my, my creative spark
(44:28):
and I wasn't really creating very much.
Mm-hmm.
And through a very interestingjourney, I came back to being able to
create, and I realized that what, likethat was the missing puzzle piece.
That is the, the part that bringsit all together because you can.
You can move your body,break up that pent energy.
You can meditate and visualize,where it's coming from and try
(44:50):
and release it, but there's norelease unless you're expressing it.
Right?
And so if you're, if you don't identifyas like a painter or something, then
you know you don't have to paint.
But it's just scribbling on apiece of paper and then throwing
it away is artistic expression.
We.
I mean, I don't know how much time wehave, but like, I don't wanna even get
(45:10):
started on societal norms of like, oh,I'm not good at, I'm not good at art, or
I can't, I can only draw a stick figure.
I can only do this.
Like, I am one of those teachers inthat it's like everyone is an artist.
If you're saying, I can't draw you,what you mean is I can't render
something realistically, or like, I,I struggle with rendering something.
Realistically, we have thisperception that being able to draw
(45:33):
means you can draw something as.
Exactly as it looks in real life.
But that's not the case.
Everyone can, find a way to hold autensil and make a mark on a paper.
Mm-hmm.
That, that is art, that isthe creative expression.
And so I, I'm very passionate about that.
Nice.
I can tell.
Yeah, I can tell.
Well, that's cool.
(45:54):
So we're about running outta timeand, yeah, I've enjoyed this.
This has been really cool.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for having me.
This has been, I love, I, I wanna nerd outabout all the spiritual stuff any day, so.
All right.
We'll definitely have you on thepodcast when I get mine up and running.
Thank you.
So go ahead and tell everybodyyour name and how to connect
with you again so they have it.
Sure.
(46:14):
I'm Summer Paradiso.
The best way to connect with me is.
On Instagram, and that's at summer.
S-U-M-M-E, RCO Paradiso,P-A-R-A-D-I-S, oco.
And my, I guess you could emailme too, if anyone doesn't.
Have Instagram and that one'sjust, it's my name again, summer
Paradiso, and then art@gmail.com.
(46:36):
Nice.
And I would love to, for anyone who'slistening, if you're interested in having
a reading, I'd love to offer 50% off.
Cool.
So just DM me your favorite partof this podcast, or email me this
fa your favorite part of thispodcast or something you learned.
And I'll send you the link to book.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
And we're in, I think138 countries now, so.
(46:56):
Ooh, right.
Love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just picked up Australia,I think three weeks ago.
Right?
Right.
Before I took a little break, wepicked up 30 countries in a week.
I'm like, all right.
Oh, how cool.
I know, right.
Okay.
Well, hi everyone.
Yeah, hi.
And one of the fun things is thenew listeners didn't understand it.
If they listen to the show and wecome to their country, we get a crash
(47:17):
at their house, so obviously Yep.
And I want like real legitimatefood from Yeah, yeah.
We want authentic food.
We want your grand.
I want your grandmother's recipes.
Yes, I would love that.
So, yes.
Oh my gosh.
Well, summer, thank you so much.
It is been a blessing to have you onthe show and I've really enjoyed it.
Thank you so much, Wes.
All right.
We'll see everybody next week.
Thank you.
Peace.
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Welcome to Enlightenment UnknownLife of a Spiritual Nomad.
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You are beautiful.
(00:28):
You're gifted, you're loved.
Every step you take raises your vibration,every breath you take heals your body.
Welcome back, everybody.
It is season five, episode one.
I can't believe we're in season five.
Thanks for tuning into the show.
I took a little break.
, I think the last time wespoke I was going up to.
(00:49):
Spread my brother's ashes.
We're gonna talk about that another time,but that just took me a minute to process
and I just wanted to say I am grateful foryou and I appreciate the opportunity to.
Have you hear our message?
And I have a very special,super gifted, talented young
lady here today named Summer.
(01:09):
Say hello, summer.
Hey guys.
How are you?
I'm doing great today.
Good.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Thank you for inviting me.
I'm very honored to be here.
Thank you.
So tell me about yourself.
Who are you?
What do you do?
My name is Summer Paradiso.
I am, first and foremost amother of two beautiful toddlers.
, I am a wife and I like to helpwomen reconnect with their intuition
(01:34):
and their bodies through movement,meditation, and creative expression.
Nice.
I love that.
Mm-hmm.
That's cool.
. One of the best things I've hadthe opportunity to experience is
meeting all these super powerfulwomen, , Rocky and Beth, and we've
got a lot of friends in common.
Yeah.
But, , I, I love Rocky 'cause herbirthday's on the Marine Corps birthday.
(01:55):
Yeah.
That's special.
Yeah.
We have a littleextra, , connection there.
So what does that mean?
How do you Well, actually,let's take two steps back.
, have you always been gifted?
I mean, what does that look like for you?
, Well what's really interesting is thisweek is the one year anniversary of
me learning that I could connect withpast loved ones or people in spirit.
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, I have always, so that was, is alittle bit fresher, a little bit new,
but I've always been kind of, I guessyou'd say into the woo, I've always
been enamored with crystals and earthand our connection to everything.
, and I've always been that friend who'sa little bit, , like we're summer or
she's frolicking in the woods somewhere,
?, but it isn't until.
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Recently that I've fully been able toincorporate all of these different facets
and interests that I have into one.
A beautiful piece that can serve people.
, I think I had been searching fora while, looking on the yoga
path, looking at meditation,looking at artistic expression.
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And I had taught all of those indifferent areas, but I was never
able to bring them all together.
And it's just been this past year thatI have found this really beautiful kind
of melody of using all of them together.
And it's, and it's been really cool.
That's exciting.
Good for you.
Mm-hmm.
It's funny how God will putthings in front of you and then
systematically place them all intosynchronicity so they work, right?
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Yeah.
Yeah.
And I've also found that if Iignore his whisper, it gets painful.
It gets quite loud and repetitive.
Yeah.
It gets painful for me, man, that,, I'm hardheaded, so Yeah, I'm, I'm
same though, and it's if the pebbleand a rock, then a boulder always.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So.
Now I always like to ask this question.
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Do you see dead people?
, I don't see them like walking aroundlike sixth sense status, but mm-hmm.
When I take a moment to tune in,I will see pictures in my third
eye and they'll show me differentimages, kind of like a movie.
And in that way I, I see them, butno, I'm not just like walking on
the street and then seeing, , orbsand, and dead people in that regard.
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No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That one's fun.
I can promise though.
Yeah.
There, there was a little videoon Facebook yesterday and I
sent it to some friends and.
It was a husband and wife, and they weretalking to this priest and the nun and
the nun have these gifts and she couldsee this demon standing behind them.
And I sent it to my friends.
I'm like, oh yeah, here's aDana Life of Wes right there.
Oh, you can see that stuff?
Yeah.
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It's, , it, it could be interesting, but.
, it is what it is.
Do you see them walkingaround and Sometimes yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of times it's, it's, it's a flash.
Like, , if somebody has something insidethem, , maybe they'll turn away, but the
demon that is there will show itself.
Okay.
And it, it is interesting.
A lot of people that do paranormalpodcasts are reaching out and I'm on
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their show and somebody let me know theother day, they don't believe in demons.
And I'm like, all right.
, I mean, you do a paranormal podcastand you talk about all this stuff,
but it is, it is interesting.
Everybody has their own thoughts.
So, I call 'em demons and noteverything I see is like that.
But,
. Yeah, it can be kind ofpainful sometimes too.
So especially if I make eyecontact, they will psychically
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attack me in my third eye.
It'll be fairly painful.
Oh, wow.
, yeah, I'm not afraid of 'em.
I just.
Somebody asked me the other day, he says,do you go out and seek out these entities?
And I'm like, dude, I don't needto go to the bad section of the
town to get my ass kicked to knowit's the bad section of town.
You're like, they cometo me, it's all good.
Yeah, yeah.
I, I'm good.
So I stay in my lane, , I do my joband , if they step in front, we do do
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something different and go from there.
But yeah, it's interesting.
I don't always see that type of stuff.
I see.
. Yeah.
I'll see dead people, I'll seechildren and stuff like that.
That can be hard to see sometimes.
Yeah.
That's so interesting.
I, it is just been really cool beingable to connect with more mediums and
people who can connect with, , the spiritrealm and just seeing how incredibly
different it is for each person.
(05:56):
Mm-hmm.
And how that uniqueness is reallylike, it really creates this
robust experience for everyone withhow we share it with the world.
And I just think that's reallycool and really different.
Yeah, it is Cool.
I, and.
, I only found out about thisstuff like five, six years ago.
My spiritual awakening turnedon kind of overnight and,
. When I thought about it, I waslike, well, if somebody's psychic,
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it's all gonna be the same.
So you're gonna see the same,feel the same, but it's not, it's
as unique as your fingerprint.
It's beautiful.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's something I'velearned too in over some time.
So, yeah, it's very interesting.
So I find that interesting.
You said you, you, yousee it in your third eye.
What does that feel like?
I don't understand whatthat, what you mean by that.
Well, I close my eyes and typically thingsjust start to play out like a movie.
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And I see it.
It's as if I'm looking up and into thespace between my eyebrows and my forehead,
and I see the pictures, I see the colors.
I see.
Sometimes it's from the perspective of thespirit or the person who's speaking to me.
Mm-hmm.
And so like I'll see their hands doingsomething or I'll see their feet or I'll
see the people in front of them, , toprovide evidence of who it is and and.
(07:04):
It's, it's very much like a, like alittle sitcom or a little movie that
plays in front of me and . I starttalking about the, , things that I'm
seeing to my sitters so that they canvalidate, , what's coming through.
Mm-hmm.
And know that, know who'strying to communicate with them.
Nice.
So how long have you beendoing it professionally?
November of last year.
Nice.
Yeah, so I literally, , in a fewdays will be the one year anniversary
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that I. It was overnight for me too.
It was like a light switch andI was like, okay, I, I am not
a stranger to this concept.
I'm open.
And I think my openness to just receivemessages and my openness to just kind
of roll with the punches has allowedme to , move into this quite quickly.
(07:50):
And so that was May of last year, andthen it was November that I. , came
out to social media as, as a medium.
, nice.
And I was really nervous aboutthat and I'm not sure why.
'cause once I was out, everyone waslike, oh yeah, that tracks, like, it
wasn't really a surprise to anyone.
Yeah.
That, that didn't track for me.
No.
I could promise.
Yeah.
So I know when mine turned on, , I don'tknow if you know my story, but I went
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through this haunted house and at the end.
All these gifts were here.
I'm like, okay, what's this?
And , you go back six years ago,I, I can promise you we would
not be having this conversation.
Yeah.
And , it took me a minutebefore I went on social media.
Okay, we're back.
We had a little technical difficulty.
Wes forgot to plug the system in.
The batteries went dead, so there's that.
(08:34):
So yeah, everything kind of turnedon and I don't know, one day I just
started putting stuff on social media.
, I, I ran a, i, I still, I stillrun a real estate company.
So for me, the transition was so easy.
It was bizarre.
Everybody just, people startedreaching out and they said, Hey,
I've known you for 25 years, andif you say it's real, it's real.
And that really surprised me.
(08:55):
I wasn't expecting that.
So good for you for having the courageto, to step forward, to step into
that place and then go, public.
'cause , it could be a littleisolating sometimes, right?
Yeah.
In the beginning.
When I first first started communicatingwith Spirit, it was very isolating.
'cause I wasn't sure whoI could talk to about it.
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I, , I've, I've watched the mediumshows, like Tyler Henry and Risa Caputo.
Mm-hmm.
And it's always been fun to talk about,but to actually be like, Hey, I'm
talking to my brother-in-law in spiritand I need to talk to someone about it.
, I, I was a little lonely with it and it.
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It felt hard to find an anchorin not being able to communicate.
'cause I, I'm a verbal processor.
I like to communicate withothers about what's going on.
, almost as like a validationof my experience.
And so I immediately started goingonline, looking for Facebook groups,
looking for opportunities to practice.
(09:58):
Mm-hmm.
And I did, I found a couplegroups where they met.
On Monday nights and had a practice group.
I mean this is like people fromEngland, Croatia, Australia,
like all on the same Zoom call.
And nice, it was a really greatopportunity for me to learn how I receive
messages and to practice with people thatI definitely didn't know anything about.
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And to also be validated that,, there's 20 other people on this
call who are somewhere in theworld who are doing the same thing.
And that was reallyvalidating and really cool.
And once I started putting myselfout there, some people surprised me.
They started coming forth and they'relike, Hey, like we know you've been
kind of woo woo, but I trust youand I wanna know what this is about.
And, and so it's been, it's beenreally cool especially to hear
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from some people who are like, Hey.
I can do this too, butI've never told a soul.
Mm-hmm.
And they've been doingit like their whole life.
And that has been the coolest part.
I'm like, there's way more peoplewalking the streets who are
communicating with spirit than Ithink the average person realizes.
Oh, absolutely.
God is calling us to the,calling us to the table big time.
, all our children are comingthrough spiritually awakened.
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And , it's funny sometimesI'll see typically probably
six months or less an infant.
And I can see their third eye open.
It's like, almost like a flashlightand the look on their face or
seen and feeling everything.
I was like, that's cool.
Yeah.
I love that.
Yeah.
It's really cool to see with my kidstheir, their connection and, I think
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that might be my favorite part isbeing able to see what they're saying.
Mm-hmm.
And to understand andto not be scared of it.
How does your husband deal with that?
, well, first of all, we've known eachother since eighth grade, so we know
each other really well, and he justloves me, for me, and he listens.
Mm-hmm.
He's curious.
And he also is the, the analyticalnumbers of the relationship.
(11:50):
Thank God we need one of 'em.
Yes.
Yeah.
, and so he listens and sometimes he's like.
I don't know, man, that'slike a little outside of my
like empirical evidence brain.
But he's open.
Mm-hmm.
He's open to it.
What, what line of work is he in?
He is in healthcare consulting.
Oh yeah.
, they're ultra spiritual there.
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Yeah.
So they're doing good stuff over there.
They're doing a lot ofpreventative care and whatnot.
But, , not a lot of Woo.
And Crystal's going on, so, well, I mean,he's in corporate, corporate America.
Mm-hmm.
You can't really be any more corporate.
I don't think so.
No, I don't think so.
Yeah.
But he's, he's good at it, buthe, , he's, we can't, I can't out him
too much, but he's, he's more openthan he leads on 'cause he or he at
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least listens to me and, , is curious.
Yeah.
I always find it curious how,, somebody's significant other.
, looks at things, especially ifthey don't have the connection.
, not everybody does, and that's okay.
Not everybody, I don't thinkeverybody's supposed to.
And like you said, you'vegot the ying and the yang.
You've got that grounding aspect becausein this work it could be kind of, you
can get out there a little bit, right?
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Oh yeah.
Yeah.
And I know when what.
, early on through that, my processwith the haunted house, I, I ended up
meeting a, a woman named Sandra GraceBrooks, and she was my first friend my
first healer, and she was my friend.
She died two years ago, I think yesterday.
Oh.
(13:13):
And I remember asking her.
, how do you find people that do this work?
And she's like, oh, wedon't talk about it.
And that's that old school versionas you don't talk about it.
Yeah.
And I remember it was like, , I cuss alittle bit and I'm like, , fuck that dude.
Because I was, I was running for my life.
And I don't know if you guyscan hear that on the show, but
United States Navy flying over.
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But , I'm just like, , I made thecommitment that I was gonna tell
everybody that this was real, becausesomebody needs to hear the message,
somebody needs to hear that there's anopportunity, somebody needs to hear.
There's a lifeline if you're in trouble.
And the reality is, is you're not crazy.
Now, there's a differencebetween being nuts and crazy.
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So, and, , I, I felt likeI was losing my mind.
, I, I didn't have gifts, Ididn't have any of that stuff.
And all of a sudden I was seeingthings, I was feeling things I could
touch a a, a bowl that hold heldfruit and I could taste the fruit.
And I'm just like, okay, , what's this?
And, , my family was panicked.
It, it was hard.
So yeah, there's a lot of peopleout there that have suffered.
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I believe my mom had lots of giftsand I think that's one of the
reasons she really struggled in life.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's really interestingyou bring that up.
I, I've connected, I realize thatI have a pretty strong connection
to one of my grandmothers who Ididn't ever meet in physical plane.
And I talk to her a lot now and there'sthis realization that there, , she had
(14:41):
gifts too . Growing up in the fiftiesand having seven children is not really
an opportunity to explore those giftsor be able, be able to have an out.
And so her, her call to me is, has been,, like, like continue to do this, like
spread it like this, this is here, it's inthe lineage, and, and that's been really.
Interesting to explore and communicatingwith her, and it's really cool to be able
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to have a relationship with someone thatI never thought I would get to meet, so.
Right.
That's also really special.
Yeah.
I got to meet my uncleRobert died in Vietnam.
Actually, his anniversary was last weekof his death, but he died I think 18
months to the day before I was born.
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And I feel to the second, , forsome reason there's that
deep connection with him.
Mm-hmm.
And I have met him a couple timesin spirit and, and it's interesting,
, it's like, hey, , as he steppedforward, I knew exactly who it was.
Yeah.
, I could see, I, I just,I, I, I just knew it.
And , it was interesting how that works.
(15:44):
And I've seen instances where I'vehad a client on the table and.
, the, there, her deceased husbandcame in, her grandparents came
in, she had had a miscarriage,we're helping take the baby home.
Mm-hmm.
And that day was so uniquely connected.
I mean, I, they told, I, I don't knowwho told me where it comes from, , 'cause
(16:08):
I don't study mediumship really?
I could do it sometimes.
I don't know how to turn it on.
Mm-hmm.
, either it comes or it doesn't.
Mm-hmm.
But I knew what color truckher grandfather drove.
I mean, they showed me the pictureof her house, her grandmother, I
mean in ex extraordinary detail.
They even gave me the name ofthe person she was on the phone
with before she got to my office,and I'd never met her before.
(16:31):
They had a message then they hadand they wanted you to know it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was crazy.
Her, her, her deceased husband was aNavy Seal and so, , it was beautiful.
And I, I felt so bad she cried sohard through the whole session.
Yeah.
I mean, there were so many thingshappening with the baby, the, the,
the, the husband just passed away,the, the grandparents and everything.
(16:53):
And I was so grateful that I was ableto see that, hear that and deliver
that message for her, healing for her.
Yeah.
And it can be overwhelmingsometimes, , then, then that,
that human brain kicks in.
At least it does for me.
I'm like.
Am I making it up or is that real?
Yeah, that was, that was definitelya big thing for me in the beginning.
I I'm Taurus Sun and Moon, soI'm a very grounded person.
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And I, I have to turn it on.
It doesn't come to me just kindof like driving or anything.
I need to sit and I need to, kindof turn that dial up in my brain
to be able to connect to spirit.
Mm-hmm.
Oh no, I forgot what I was talking about.
, with the, oh, the, with the messagescoming through though, like how
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healing isn't always pretty.
But I find, like when I do readings forpeople, , you're talking about like all
those past loved ones came through forthat woman and , she had a big release and
that you felt bad 'cause she was crying.
But it's one of those where.
Especially for me and my readings,I promise you that you'll
receive a message that you need.
Mm-hmm.
Probably not one that you want.
(17:57):
Sure.
And so with that mightcome some discomfort.
It might, there might be some resistance.
. A lot of my people in my readingsare like, this is like 10 years of
therapy, like balled up into one andI'm like, I go straight for your deepest
shit because that's what comes up.
Mm-hmm.
And that's what comes through and it.
(18:19):
You might feel really tired and depletedat the end of it, but it's because
you have just released something big.
Absolutely.
And and that's why, , that brings me joyto know that I'm helping people release
this stuff that they're carrying around.
Mm-hmm.
Well, we talk about on theshow all the time, you can.
I believe you can heal in asecond if you know how to do it.
, there's, there's a cheat code and,and, and I believe that starts
(18:41):
with understanding that lifehappens for you and not to you.
And, and, , just these different thoughtprocesses and, and understanding how
energy works and that everything'sa direct reflection of yourself.
And, , one of the biggest things,Tay helped me understand all this
at the Reiki Wellness Center.
Mm-hmm.
She's a very good friend of mine.
It was, I think one of the biggestturning points for me on that was
(19:03):
when I, I came to the realizationI could rewrite my story.
Yeah.
, because I believed I was X.
Mm-hmm.
Well, I wasn't x that X wasa sentence or a paragraph in
the back of the book of West.
And the reality is I canbe anything that I want.
And, , things have changed so much for me.
It's really crazy.
Yeah.
? Yeah.
So, , a, a fun thing is,, everything's energy, right?
(19:25):
Yeah.
And so I was trying to buy my dad'sbuilding from him recently and.
, in the human world, in the 3D world,I don't think I necessarily qualified.
, I'm in real estate, so on the yearsthat I'm gonna buy something, I show
more income, then you show less income,, you can write off different things.
(19:45):
Mm-hmm.
So long story short, that door keptclosing, but it wasn't until I sat down.
And I forgave my dad.
Over some stuff.
And when I let that go and I senthim this really long text and thanked
him for everything he's done forthe entire family his whole life.
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All of a sudden Iqualified for the building.
Isn't that weird?
From the same bank that turnedme down six months prior.
Mm-hmm.
How's that even possible when?
They're technically just lookingat numbers on a piece of paper?
It's, yeah, I, I feel like somethingalong those lines with energy.
(20:26):
Happens just daily andit, I am always surprised.
Mm-hmm.
And I don't know why I am, like, Iliterally, , this is what I'm interacting
with daily is synchronicities andenergy and , the second you release one
thing, another door opens and it's just.
I don't know.
I'm just in, in awe and wonder of howmuch we can literally create Yeah.
(20:47):
What's in front of us and I, butI'm still surprised every time.
Alright, well I've gotten, I'vegotten to the point now, if I
want to talk to somebody, I justthink about 'em for a second.
I. And I know within 24hours they're gonna call.
Yeah.
And that just happens.
And the weird thing is, I can dothe same thing, and I don't know how
Facebook stalks our brain, but itfeels like Facebook stalks our brain.
Isn't that weird?
There's some sort of psychicthing happening there.
(21:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Instagram, all of 'em, thealgorithm knows it's mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Wild.
Yeah.
That's creepy.
So,
I don't know how that one works.
I will say though, I love, I lovethe Instagram algorithm and the
Facebook AL algorithm for sales andshopping, which, , some people are
like, why are they listening to me?
And I'm like, you know what?
Target me.
I want those yoga pants.
(21:29):
I want.
Yeah.
Like I. I want the thing,so I'm good with it.
Well, they keep showing me $300,000sports cars, so I'm like, there it
must be divine interventions sayingWes, you need a new sports car.
Right?
Well, and now I'm gonna start gettingads for $300,000 sports cars on
my phone because it's right there.
So, yeah.
Well they say money doesn't buy happiness,but damn my Maserati, I sure am a
little bit happier when I'm crying.
(21:51):
That's funny.
But, so, let me ask you this.
If, if, if somebody's listening tothe show and they've got these gifts,
what would you recommend to them?
Especially if they're struggling?
Oh, God, DM me, please.
I, I wanna connect with you.
But if you are struggling, you, especiallyfor those of you who might have someone
really important in your life whoyou feel like is gonna react in an
(22:12):
unfavorable way or reject you, or , notwanna be close to you anymore, then.
I would just say, listen towhat spirit's telling you.
Connect with your guides, let it happen.
Mm-hmm.
And . It will unfold for you.
I, I, anytime I've tried to forcesomething, doesn't always go great.
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Patience is one of my bigkarmic lessons this lifetime.
But I think just continuing tokeep that link between you and
spirit, continuing to communicate.
People are going to, to come to you.
Once you kind of open up that energypeople are gonna start coming to you
and it might be a little trickles.
It might be one person one week andanother person in another month.
(22:58):
But you're gonna starthaving opportunities to,
do readings if you want to.
I've met a number of people who,have kind of secretly told me like,
I can do it, but I don't want.
I don't want to do what you're doing,and I'm like, that's, that's okay.
There might be, it might be justfor you to be receiving information
to share it in a different way.
Sure.
Like, everyone's, everyone'sstory looks different.
So, I mean, that was kind of a long way ofanswering as, as I have a tendency to do.
(23:22):
But if they're craving connection tosomeone, my first answer is DM me.
'cause I, I have loads, maybe I'm not yourperson to talk to, but I know a lot of.
Of other mediums now.
'cause I've, I've been reaching,reaching out all the hands and
all the places to meet people.
So what's your Instagram?
It is my name.
It is easy.
(23:43):
It is summer, S-U-M-M-E-R,underscore Paradiso.
P-A-R-A-D-I-S-O underscore.
And it's just my little face there.
And and I share, I share stuff about my,my program that I have which was the.
The movement, meditation and creativeexpression I share about my readings.
There's lots of different waysyou can, you can work with me.
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Nice.
So I think it also says that you dobecause I left my notes in the other
room because that's what West does isyou, you mentor people and stuff, right?
Yeah.
So I, I have a group programactually going on right now.
It's my eight week transformation.
So it's a very compact littlecontainer that where we.
We go deep hearted fast.
(24:24):
And so that's my, my group container.
But I do work one-on-one with people.
I typically I'd say like entry level, ifyou're like, is this chick even for me?
Like, do I wanna work with her?
Mm-hmm.
Do I like the way that she channels?
Then you would just book aone-on-one reading with me.
Yeah.
And if you want more, if you're reallycraving, like, I can connect with spirit,
or I want to connect with spirit, or youjust want to connect with your intuition
(24:45):
because mm-hmm you're disconnected and youlike don't even know what you're doing.
You can work with me one-on-one and,and that is not overly official.
You just DM me and I send you the salespage and you decide if you, if you wanna
work with me, . It's so hard to describebecause I do so many different things.
Like I, we might do some reiki, wemight do some creative expression.
(25:06):
Mm-hmm.
We might do a little bitof ancestral healing.
I worked with one of myone-on-one clients last week.
We actually cleared her house 'causethere was a lot of negative energy
still there from a past relationship.
So it.
Really is so specific to what you need.
Nice.
And that just takes megetting to know you.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So in the eight week program,are you teaching people how to do
(25:28):
mediumship or what are you doing?
No.
So that one's more focusedon energy unblocking.
Mm-hmm.
An emotional unblocking.
So as you're probablyno stranger, we mm-hmm.
Create physical manifestationsof emotional wounds.
I think if anyone listeningprobably understands that.
And so the big focus is,is emotional unblocking.
And we work through kind ofa chakra theme each week.
(25:49):
I am a teacher by, by trade,so I, have my little mm-hmm.
My slideshows and stuff.
But we.
Do we have a movement flow, wehave a meditation and then creative
expression prompts for each week.
And then I have a whole portal ofdifferent videos that people can kind
of plug and play whenever they feel goodand they're, it's anything from a three
(26:10):
minute like seated grounding meditationto like a 60 minute, like super deep
dive into visiting your divine feminine.
So it really is kind of a variety.
Yes.
And we meet once a week andkind of debrief and talk about.
About what's going on and.
I really love people havein individual access to me.
I love a voice memo.
(26:31):
Love a voice memo.
Mm-hmm.
Anyone send me a voice memo onInstagram, you're my best friend.
But the group context is what's reallycool is because all these women come,
come from different, parts of life.
Some are moms, some are notmoms, some are entrepreneurs,
some are, in corporate world.
And yet we're all crisscrossingwith the same emotional blocks and
same different types of wounds.
(26:51):
And so it's really beautifulwhen the experience is shared.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so that's whatwe're doing right now.
We're in week two in my program.
Yay.
Nice.
Yeah, I, I think it's importantto share, I share quite openly
about my past and stuff, and.
It helps me heal.
Mm-hmm.
However, I know there's somebodylistening that can't say those words.
(27:12):
Yeah.
And it helps them see, I'm not alone.
Yeah.
That happened to him.
Wow.
That happened to me.
I'm not the only person here.
I'm not this odd, this oddball out.
Yeah.
So it's a healing journeyis a beautiful thing.
Yeah.
And I, and I think it's, as you're sayingthat too, I think it's really beautiful.
'cause there's some people whoyou, you don't have to share.
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Your whole healing journey online.
If that's not for you, maybe you'reworking one-on-one with someone or
something, but it, it's, if you'recool with sharing, then please do.
Mm-hmm.
Because, and like, I'm, I'm like that too.
Like I, I wanna share because ifit's one person if sees it and
is like, oh my God, that's me.
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And then they.
It can take a leap of faith into somethingthat they maybe wouldn't have otherwise
had they not seen that one person do it.
I just think it's so valuable tobe able to like shout from the
mountaintops if you're comfortable.
Shout from the mountaintops.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I worked on a, a, a friend ofmine last week and she said, I
feel like you sprinkled pixiedust or something on my face.
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She's just like been glowing andooh, removing those blocks and stuff.
I'm like, good for you.
Yeah.
Good for you.
I'm here for the glitter and pixie dust.
That sounds great.
Yeah.
Right.
So we got, oh, before Iforget, I got you a couple gif.
Oh.
So I've got two copies of, oneis What Color Is Your Dragon?
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And the other is, is Sidney's new bike.
That's the book that Andrea and I wrote,oh my God, . And I thought maybe your
children might wanna listen or read that.
And the book is about.
Learning how to love themselfand affirmations and connecting
with people that don't look likeyou and think they're beautiful.
These are so sweet.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
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Oh my gosh.
And that'll really mix up ourour evening bluey book marathon.
Yeah.
No, thank you.
These are so sweet.
And as an artist, theseillustrations are adorable.
Thanks.
Yeah.
We talk about grounding and stuffin there and there's also a summary
in the back for parents really thatdon't understand what that means.
Yeah.
And then there's littleaffirmation cards in there.
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It's fun.
. Andrea had asked me to write thosebooks for a very long time and I mean,
the honest answer is she said, Wes, Iwant you to do this book on dragons.
'cause I work with dragonsand I. And I didn't want to.
Then I was kind of dating somebody at thetime and I'm like, that that energy is
just gonna, it's not gonna flow, right?
And I just didn't, Ididn't feel a connection.
(29:35):
So that person and I stopped seeingeach other, and she asked me again.
She sent me an email.
And I'm like, okay, okay.
And it's strange, like withindays of me saying, saying,
okay, Jesus, Jesus showed me.
The books, I drew the pictures out ofevery page, and Andrea is so brilliant,
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she came in and she, she put, put all thejust basically put everything together.
She made it happen.
So, but yeah, Jesus putthose books together.
It's really cool.
And the, and the dragon in my mindrepresents, it's a higher power.
It represents Jesus.
Right.
So you're looking up to your higher power.
Yeah, I think it's, I think it's soimportant that things like this are
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being created so that kids can growup thinking, no, not thinking, but
knowing that, these gifts are realand important and valued because a lot
of people that I, I talk to now who.
Saw spirits when they were younger andthen no longer did, and then had to
like, kind of reclaim that ability.
(30:40):
Mm-hmm.
But it's because they were told it wasn'treal or they were not validated Sure.
At a young age.
And actually really just ashort story to share when I
was teaching middle school art.
And this was before, I had ameditation practice and yoga practice
and but I didn't know that I couldcommunicate with, with spirit yet.
And I had this, thisstudent, he was so precious.
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He, this is sixth grade, and he alwayswould kind of like linger after class.
Like he, and then kind of like wander off.
And he didn't have a lot of friends.
He was just kind of a loner.
And there was one day he came up tomy desk and he was like, miss p. I,
I can talk to people who have died.
Like I, I see them and they talk tome and, and they told me to tell you,
(31:27):
and wow, this was, this was like 2018.
This was a long time, well,not that long, but long enough
ago before I knew, and yeah.
And I just remember saying.
Saying, thank you for telling me.
And if you ever need to talkto anybody, I'm here for you.
I, and he was like, no one believes me.
And I said, I believe you.
And I, I am proud in that momentthat I validated him, validated him,
(31:50):
but I'm also proud of him for comingto tell me, because that was just
one of those little breadcrumbs inmy path that has led to this point.
And it's just moments like that,that, are so special and valuable
and just think is really cool.
So, absolutely.
That breaks my heart for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and I, maybe he'll hearthis podcast or maybe he'll have
someone that helps validate him.
(32:12):
'cause I, sure.
I think school is already hardenough and for those who are already
really spiritually open, um mm-hmm.
I think it is just that much harder.
To deal with.
Yeah.
Well, especially nowadays, I mean,you can identify as a turnip, not
trying to be rude, but you can.
And that's supposed to be accepted.
And the reality is when I know whatit was like when I grew up and it
(32:37):
was hard enough when there was onesex, you're either man or a woman.
Mm-hmm.
And you know you wanted to fit in.
Now you've got all these otherparameters people have put in place.
And I couldn't imagine how confusingit is for our children and.
It's, it is just, it's just a struggle.
Then you add in these spiritualgifts that these children are being
(32:59):
born with and coming in, and that'swhy we created this, because you go
to your mom or to the teacher andsay, Hey, I talked to dead people.
You're gonna go to a psychiatrist,they're gonna medicate you, and
you're going down that rabbit hole.
Mm-hmm.
And maybe that may.
Be a real thing for that person,but the reality is maybe it's not.
Maybe that person is seen andhearing in other dimensions,
(33:22):
and that's why I tell the story.
That's why we wrote the books.
Mm-hmm.
We wanted to save our childrenand it, I believe families that
heal together, stay together.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah.
You know they do.
Mm-hmm.
And our babies need us.
And if you're not open, thisgives you the opportunity to
talk to your child a little bit.
(33:43):
And welcome to the hippie world.
I call it.
It's like Lakota.
Do you know Lakota?
The medicine woman?
Lakota?
No.
You sent me her info andI'm stalking, so Yeah.
Yeah, she's coming in town this weekend.
I and seen her this last weekend anddid some workup on her property, but
listening to her connect is unreal.
(34:06):
I mean, the things that she cansee, the things that she can do, and
she does healing work in her sleep,and she remembers it the next day.
I'm like, how do you doall that and be rested?
Ooh, like astral travel status?
Yeah.
Like, oh, cool girl.
How did she not need caffeine?
Because I feel like.
It's exhausting to do astral traveland then be in mom the next day.
Yeah.
(34:27):
It's very hard to do.
I have no idea.
But, she's the one that savedme in that haunted house.
She's the one I had to gothrough this rebirthing ceremony.
So I had two exorcisms and then the thirdone was with her, was this native American
rebirthing ceremony where I had to diga grave lay in my grave for 18 hours.
What?
Yeah, it, it, it, it was, it was a lot.
(34:49):
This is.
So this is like a different kind of,when, when you're talking about like
seeing demons and kind of these negativeenergies and stuff that it seems like
you, you were interacting with a lot.
It's, it's so interesting tolisten to because I, I don't
have any experience with that.
I, I don't feel like I've had anyexperience with, this is a common
(35:10):
question too, so I, I wanna touch on it.
Where people are like, do you have any.
Past loved ones who say something reallymean to their the living person that
you're talking to, or do you have any,demons come through or being possessed
and I, I'm new in my communicating spiritwith spirit journey, so I definitely
have my, my tools and my practices tomake sure that I'm protecting myself.
(35:33):
But I still have not, I, Ihave not had any experiences
that are anything other than.
Love, love and light.
Mm-hmm.
And I do just wanna say that ifanyone's ever interested in a reading
with me, I, I, I don't seem to bemagnetic for, for these darker energies.
Mm-hmm.
I just find it fascinating the, theexperience of, of other people and, yeah.
(35:55):
And laying in a grave for 18hours sounds really traumatic.
I'm not gonna lie, Wes,that sounds like, yeah.
The funny thing through that wholeepisode of that nine months, that was
like the most relaxing part for me.
, I mean there was instances my buddyTy went through the process with me.
And I had forgotten this and, and atone time I had lifted my shirt and
(36:17):
you could see a face from the insideof my skin pressing out of my body.
What?
Yeah.
That, that was nervewracking as fucking shit.
Okay.
I was supposed to be like, what the fuck?
Can we say that?
My god.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was it was an extraordinary.
Process and I wouldn't recommend it.
Yeah.
Do not re zero outta 10.
Recommend.
Yeah.
And so, just because I wentthrough it doesn't, and like you
(36:40):
said, it doesn't mean when I dohealing work, that stuff shows up.
It's just was my process becauseI had to go through that process.
'cause I didn't believe God was real.
I didn't believe Jesus was real.
I thought the Bible was a good bookthat these fucking idiots purchased
and they just, it was a gimmick.
I thought it was a gimmick.
Mm-hmm.
I didn't know Jesus was a Jew.
I didn't know.
He was crucified by the Romans.
I knew nothing because Iwas molested as a child.
(37:02):
And in my mind, if, if, if hewas real, why would that happen?
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And Father Munford helped me understandby going through almost like a little
baby meditation, he, he made me go backto right before I was, was raped, right?
Mm-hmm.
And, and he said, now stop.
And I want you to look aroundthe room and look for Jesus.
(37:26):
And I remember being so furious with that.
And the short version of that was Ilooked over and I seen him crying and
he said, I told him, I said, father,I, I, I, I see, I see, I see him.
And he said, what did he say, son?
I said, you didn't have to say anything'cause he's crying, and that's when.
I came to the realization Jesus isn'there to pull me outta that room.
(37:50):
As a parent, we can't walk withour babies everywhere, through
everything and save them, but wecan love them through everything.
Mm-hmm.
And Jesus loves us through the process.
And, he could.
He could, I guess maybe hecould, but that's not his job.
His job wasn't to pull me outta that room.
His job was to love me.
And he did, even when I didn'tlove myself, and even when I
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didn't even recognize that hewas here, that he was real.
So, going through that process,I simply put, I needed to
get my ass fucking wore out.
To come to the realization because Icould see the demons and I believed that.
'cause I, I mean, you could clearlysee 'em, you could, there, I
had hundreds of pictures of it.
I'd take a picture with mycamera or the security cameras
(38:33):
in the house, you could see them.
So I'm like, if that's real thenyou know, I mean, is God real?
You gotta, in my logical mind, youcouldn't have one without the other.
So I had to go through thisprocess to pay attention.
'cause if he did it lightly, I wouldn'tbe doing this healing work right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I, I, I think that when thosemessages come through, really
(38:55):
the person that was here is notthe one that you're talking to.
It's their higher self.
Is that, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Is that higher self and that higher self.
I talk about a lot that I. If you andI were in relationship and it was a
really bad breakup and one of the twoof us hurt the other person that in
3D form here, there's this anger orwhatever, but in heaven we loved each
(39:18):
other so much that I came, or you camehere to give those lessons of betrayal
to me, for me to heal from that, right?
Mm-hmm.
So I like to think.
That our higher selves, especiallywhen you've been hurt by somebody that
that higher self of that person lovedyou so much that they destroyed you.
So you can go through the experiencethat you guys agreed upon in heaven and
(39:40):
now it's your turn to heal and elevate.
Yeah, I, on that note too, I I've had anumber of sitters that I've read for who.
During the reading have been frustratedbecause the person who's coming through
is the higher self is after the lifereview is, this the not how they showed
(40:01):
up in, in 3D plane, they, they mighthave been abusive, alcoholic, kind
of, super destructive in, in 3D.
And so my sitter's expecting that toshow up again with, with an, I'm sorry.
And, and what happens is the, the elevatedversion of themselves, the higher version
of themselves is coming through to show.
(40:24):
To finally show the love, like how muchI, I love you, how much I acknowledge
you, and I want to, acknowledge thisexperience that happened between us, this
contract that happened between us to helpmake you the person that you are today.
And it's a really hard thing to explainto someone that you're reading for
'cause it can be quite upsetting to.
(40:46):
Be talking to the higher version and belike, well, why didn't I get the higher
version of you when you were here?
Sure.
And it was their contract.
Yeah.
It was their contract.
And it is hard.
It's hard to explain.
And, and I'm still learning.
Every day I learn something.
Every reading I learn something.
And.
It is just one of those thingsthat, like, from how I, from what I
understand, from the readings that I'vedone, from people I've talked to, it
(41:08):
is, it is part of the soul contract.
It's what your soul needsto learn in this lifetime.
And it it never is easy, is it?
No, no.
Yeah.
So, Trina said somethingto me a while back.
And she said, we're not here to suffer.
We're here to struggle.
Just like the butterfly, whenthe butterfly is born, if I were
(41:30):
to cut the cocoon open and helpthe butterfly, it's gonna die.
Mm-hmm.
If the butterfly struggles, it pushesblood to its wings, it gives it
strength, and it grows and, and prospers,struggling is growth in healing.
Suffering is 3D human form.
Mm-hmm.
, I adopted the sufferingmindset for a very long time.
(41:53):
Yeah.
I don't suffer anymore.
I didn't know any better.
Yeah.
Nobody teaches this stuff.
That's why I tell it to everybody, and
it's just, it changes thingsat such a deep level quickly.
I'm like, why is this not on 60 minutes?
Why is this not taught in school?
I guess the same reason theydidn't teach me how to balance
(42:14):
a checkbook when I was in.
Yeah, well we don't even needto get started on that one.
But the,
I think it's like there, there's sucha push and pull and probably better
if we don't get into education system.
'cause I've.
I'm no longer teaching in,in public school system.
I understand.
But, for whoever's listening,developing these tools for yourself
(42:38):
and sharing them with our youth isimperative for raising our collective
vibration and elevating consciousness.
'cause otherwise we do get stuck inthat suffering loop because we, we
don't, we don't fucking know any better.
Like, yeah, that's, and that's the norm.
And so, I'm really grateful for peoplelike you who are, creating books
(42:59):
and, and sharing these tools so that.
We can slowly but surely normalize them.
Mm-hmm.
Well, you're startinga podcast soon, right?
Yeah.
I'm so excited.
I do not have a specific date,but yes, I'm starting a podcast.
It'll be called TheSoul and Spirit Podcast.
Nice.
I like that.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I love that for you.
Good for you.
Yeah.
(43:19):
Yeah.
That's gonna be fun.
So you're an artist as well, right?
I am multi-talented.
Yeah.
I, I am an artist that hasbeen, my form of expression
since I couldn't hold a crayon.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My superpower is I talk shit.
So you talk that your superpower.
Yeah.
Okay.
I love that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I, I am an artist andthat was kind of the third.
(43:42):
Puzzle piece.
I, I like to think of well,any of my nineties kids,
legends of the Hidden Temple.
Did you ever watch that Uhuh?
No.
It was, it was a Nickelodeon show.
I always think about This was likethe, the monkey had like the last piece
of the puzzle to like win the prize.
'cause I had, I developed ameditation practice after going
on a silent meditation retreat.
In Thailand that my friend dragged me to.
(44:03):
Never had a side note, neverhaving meditated before, and
then going to sit with a bunchof monks for 10 days in silence.
That was wild.
But hey, I know I learned how tomeditate very quickly and then, getting
certified as a yoga teacher and so,so understanding this movement and
meditation portion and being an artistalong alongside it, but, I started
teaching in the public school system,I kind of lost my, my creative spark
(44:28):
and I wasn't really creating very much.
Mm-hmm.
And through a very interestingjourney, I came back to being able to
create, and I realized that what, likethat was the missing puzzle piece.
That is the, the part that bringsit all together because you can.
You can move your body,break up that pent energy.
You can meditate and visualize,where it's coming from and try
(44:50):
and release it, but there's norelease unless you're expressing it.
Right?
And so if you're, if you don't identifyas like a painter or something, then
you know you don't have to paint.
But it's just scribbling on apiece of paper and then throwing
it away is artistic expression.
We.
I mean, I don't know how much time wehave, but like, I don't wanna even get
(45:10):
started on societal norms of like, oh,I'm not good at, I'm not good at art, or
I can't, I can only draw a stick figure.
I can only do this.
Like, I am one of those teachers inthat it's like everyone is an artist.
If you're saying, I can't draw you,what you mean is I can't render
something realistically, or like, I,I struggle with rendering something.
Realistically, we have thisperception that being able to draw
(45:33):
means you can draw something as.
Exactly as it looks in real life.
But that's not the case.
Everyone can, find a way to hold autensil and make a mark on a paper.
Mm-hmm.
That, that is art, that isthe creative expression.
And so I, I'm very passionate about that.
Nice.
I can tell.
Yeah, I can tell.
Well, that's cool.
(45:54):
So we're about running outta timeand, yeah, I've enjoyed this.
This has been really cool.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for having me.
This has been, I love, I, I wanna nerd outabout all the spiritual stuff any day, so.
All right.
We'll definitely have you on thepodcast when I get mine up and running.
Thank you.
So go ahead and tell everybodyyour name and how to connect
with you again so they have it.
Sure.
(46:14):
I'm Summer Paradiso.
The best way to connect with me is.
On Instagram, and that's at summer.
S-U-M-M-E, RCO Paradiso,P-A-R-A-D-I-S, oco.
And my, I guess you could emailme too, if anyone doesn't.
Have Instagram and that one'sjust, it's my name again, summer
Paradiso, and then art@gmail.com.
(46:36):
Nice.
And I would love to, for anyone who'slistening, if you're interested in having
a reading, I'd love to offer 50% off.
Cool.
So just DM me your favorite partof this podcast, or email me this
fa your favorite part of thispodcast or something you learned.
And I'll send you the link to book.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
And we're in, I think138 countries now, so.
(46:56):
Ooh, right.
Love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just picked up Australia,I think three weeks ago.
Right?
Right.
Before I took a little break, wepicked up 30 countries in a week.
I'm like, all right.
Oh, how cool.
I know, right.
Okay.
Well, hi everyone.
Yeah, hi.
And one of the fun things is thenew listeners didn't understand it.
If they listen to the show and wecome to their country, we get a crash
(47:17):
at their house, so obviously Yep.
And I want like real legitimatefood from Yeah, yeah.
We want authentic food.
We want your grand.
I want your grandmother's recipes.
Yes, I would love that.
So, yes.
Oh my gosh.
Well, summer, thank you so much.
It is been a blessing to have you onthe show and I've really enjoyed it.
Thank you so much, Wes.
All right.
We'll see everybody next week.
Thank you.
Peace.
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