July 17, 2025 • 41 mins
In this episode of 'Enlightenment Unknown Life of a Spiritual Nomad,' Reiki master and quantum healing expert Wes Coons hosts Sabrina Weibel, a specialist in helping creatives and entrepreneurs manifest their dreams. They discuss Sabrina's journey from aspiring nurse to discovering the Law of Attraction and quantum physics, leading her to a career in transformational coaching. Sabrina shares insights on how changing belief systems can alter one’s reality and achieve aspirations. They also discuss the intersection of energy healing, neuroscience, and personal development. Wes reflects on his own spiritual journey, emphasizing the importance of internal transformation and mindset. Sabrina outlines her methods for helping individuals change their thoughts and beliefs to align with their goals. The conversation underscores the potential of spiritual and mental work to impact real-world outcomes significantly.
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Welcome to Enlightenment UnknownLife of a Spiritual Nomad.
Join Reiki master and quantum healingexpert Wes Koons as he guides listeners
through the depths of self-discoveryand spiritual enlightenment to uncover
the version of you we haven't met yet.
Welcome to Enlightenment UnknownLife of a Spiritual Nomad.
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Welcome back everybody.
I tell you what, I havehad the craziest week.
The energy has been wild.
And today I have a very, veryspecial guest, so I want to
say hello to Sabrina Bel.
Yes.
Am I saying it right?
Yes.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Hello.
Hello.
Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah, this is cool.
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You know the best part about this job.
I have some of the most powerfulladies in the industry get to sit
in that chair and come on this show.
It's fun.
So thanks for being here.
Thank you so much for inviting me.
You're welcome.
First I wanted to say hello to Lebanon
Jordan, Bahrain, Hawaii,and it isn't interesting.
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We have Palestine and Israel now onthe show, thanks for joining us.
We appreciate it.
So, gosh, what's today's date?
What, we're mid-July, right?
mid-July, yes.
Yeah, it's been 5,000 degreeshere in Virginia Beach.
Oh my gosh.
That heat wave came through.
It was crazy so tell us who you are.
What do you do?
Yes.
I help creatives, dreamers, andentrepreneurs how to train their
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brains to turn their dreams to reality.
I'll start with how I fell intothis because it's a crazy story.
Summer of 2018 and, um, I wason track for nursing school.
That was my whole life.
I had planned to go to nursing school.
I had planned, I wanted to helppeople and I was in a depression
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and anxiety for my entire life.
One summer my sister comes tome and she is tells me about The
Secret on Netflix documentary.
Yeah, I've, I've watched that.
That's great.
I like that.
I was never introduced to theLaw of Attract before that.
And so she introduced me tothat and I was like, she said,
oh, you've gotta watch this.
I just like manifested all this money.
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You have to watch this.
And so I'm like, what?
So I turn it on and I watch it.
And it wasn't like complete 180 shiftof my life right then and there,
but it sparked just enough interestin me where I was like this, like
what if this has some truth to it?
Mm-hmm.
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And.
It got me to a point where Istarted to, I'm very science based.
I was on track for nursing school.
I loved the nursing part becauseI loved learning about the science
behind the body and how we like justbiologically like how we've run.
And so I got really interestedinto the science part of this.
I said, okay, if this isreal, I can see how I've been.
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Manifesting all these negativerelationships in my life until
this point, I've, I can see howthis can be real, this whole law of
attraction manifestation type thing.
So let me look more into it.
I got into a rabbit hole of looking intoneuroscience and quantum physics, which
quantum physics is the study of basicallythe study of the law of attraction,
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but the study of matter and energy.
Mm-hmm.
IG got the book mind.
I think it's mine too matter by Dr.Wayne Dyer has all these different, like
doctors forwarding it, which was my thing.
I'm like, okay, I wanna see the research.
I wanna see the facts.
And so you're, you're notanalytical at all, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so I get this book, and I'm justlooking at research after research
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article, and I see this one studythat stood out to me and it was
talking about distant healings.
Mm-hmm.
And it was saying how.
Everything is connected and how we'rekind of just like this web of energy
versus what we look at 3D and how it'sall separated, which is so different
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than what we're taught in school.
And I'm looking into Dr. Dispenza andhe's talking about all these different,
like the books that he's getting intois talking about a very similar things.
And I'm like, okay, all of thesedifferent doctors have studies
and science behind the same thing.
This one study in Mindto Matter was saying how.
Yeah, there can be a person on the otherside of the world kilometers away, and we
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can send them quote unquote healing energyand we can have a significant impact and
actually heal diseases or, yes, we can.
Yeah.
Heal someone emotionally, physically,all of the different things.
And it had the science andthe research behind that.
Mm-hmm.
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I was reading that study.
And on track for nursing school afterdiscovering now like getting into
the science of the law of attraction.
And I'm like, what the hell?
Yeah.
Like how like more people needto be learning about this.
I would have never learnedabout this in nursing school.
I would've never been able to, andmy whole thing of wanting to be a
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nursing school and wanting to be anurse was to, I wanted to help people.
That was like my thing.
And I'm like, I couldhelp way more people.
Doing this, like Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So why do you think they don'tteach that in nursing school?
Why do you think thedoctors don't talk about it?
I, I've seen some reports where Sentarais starting to bring in reiki people
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to work on cancer patients stuff now.
And, um, but do youthink it's, it is just.
Big pharma is making too muchmoney off of this that they can't
think outside of the box or, orwhat do you think that might be?
It very well could be.
I mean, we could go into likethe conspiracy theory, quote
unquote conspiracy theories.
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Mm-hmm.
When I was at the Dr. Joe Dispenserretreat, he even brought up, like
on the screen, the presentation.
He was talking and he hadso many other doctors there.
Um, just talking about the mind blowingeffects that even just the energy
healings, how they have done, havecreate like instantaneous miraculous like
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healings and they were showing us how.
The US is, I'm, I don't feel like I'mgonna quote this exactly right, but
it was something along the lines oflike, the US is like pharmaceuticals
and the US is, uh, like whatwe're paying for health insurance.
And it was comparing USSrates versus other countries.
Yeah.
And US was like crazy.
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Like, I think it was like trillions andtrillions of dollars like crazy up there
while other countries were not, and.
I think a big part of it, like withme and now it's been seven years that
I've been very deep into this work andI keep coming across that same thing.
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Pharmaceuticals.
That's how the government's makingall of this money and so main, it
would make sense why they would notwant to teach that in the mainstream.
School systems, but it's coming outlike people can't help but to see it.
Yeah.
And to experience it.
They do.
I have people show up in myhealing space all the time saying,
I've tried everything else.
I'm desperate.
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Can you help?
Mm-hmm.
And , I think I've got clients in 80countries now, so, doing that long
distance work and connecting, um.
With that person at a deep, intimate leveland then being able to see what's haunting
them or it's what's blocking them.
Mm-hmm.
It's fun to do.
I love doing that work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, speaking of which I like and justhow the, what may be haunting us mm-hmm.
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Can cause any type ofphysical, like ailment.
I truly believe that so many differentphysical ailments that we have.
It starts in our energy field beforeit starts in our physical body.
I believe that.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
And they were, I mean, and I'm,I quote Dr. Dispenza all the time
because he's so science backed.
Like he, he doesn't just say things,just to say things like when he says
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something, it's because he has researcharticle, research article, evidence,
evidence, a team behind him, like sayinglike, yes, like this is, this is it.
Yeah.
And he doesn't come across as, not to bemean, but kind of out there, ? Mm-hmm.
A lot of people thattalk about this stuff.
, they're not science-based.
They don't have that background.
And um, I appreciate that.
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'cause my human brain, my, , Iown a real estate company.
I do healing work and stuff like that.
So in my mind, if I'm gonna look atit, I wanna make sure it's, it is
actual and it's not just somebody onthe internet talking some crazy stuff.
'cause they have some mm-hmm.
I mean.
There's a couple people I follow thatare interesting and I'm like, I don't
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even know what you guys are talkingabout it so far out there, but yeah.
Yeah, it's cool.
So it sounds like thatscrewed up your whole career.
Oh, it a good way.
It definitely did in a good way.
I'd say it was a big blessing in disguise.
So I'll progress with the story,so I. On track for nursing school.
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Found out the about the law ofattraction was like, no fucking way.
Like this is crazy what I'm learning.
Mm-hmm.
And then I just feel this, this wasthe first time I heard my intuition,
but it came loud and clear like a bellin my head and it said, do not go to
nursing school, start a YouTube channel.
And I was just like stuck in like.
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Uh, what, what is this?
What should I do energy for?
I would say like six months or soon the fence of, I had been, I was
certified as an EMT, I worked in the firedepartment, I worked in the hospital.
I grew connections all over thepeninsula to different, , medical
professionals, so I could have.
Because I didn't wanna just stop at rn.
I wanted to like, like this medicalfield was going to be my entire life.
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Sure.
And it had been until that point.
And so, yeah.
Screwed up my entire career.
But I had, I had told myself, Iwas like, you know what I've been
doing, I've been on the trackfor nursing school for this long.
Like, I'm going to not listento my intuition and I'm going
to still go for nursing school.
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And I tried.
That did not work.
Yeah.
How'd that work for you?
I got accepted into twoschools with flying colors and
was like, great, I'm on it.
Let's go get into nursing school.
In the first two weeks of nursing school,I bought all my textbooks, everything.
They pull me aside andthey say, your government.
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Loans.
I had FAFSA covering my school.
They said, your government loansaren't like covering your classes.
I'm like, what do you mean?
Like everything got approved?
They're like, no, it didn't get approved.
Now it's showing that it's notapproved and you have to either like.
Pay thousands of dollars every coupleof weeks for the next few months just to
pay for this semester and then do thatagain the following semester or drop out.
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And I was like, you'vegotta be kidding me.
And there was no other way around it.
So even when I tried to ignore myintuition and do this anyway, if
it was like it was intervened, andI say it was the biggest blessing
in disguise because I was so upset,but it ended up turning into.
Such a beautiful life and being ableto help people in such a impactful,
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transformational way that I do now.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
The universal move you whenyou're not paying attention.
Yes, a hundred percent.
Sometimes quite painfully,that's for sure.
Sometimes quite painfully.
I, I've ex, I've experienced thatin relationships a lot, so you know.
Mm-hmm.
If I'm in the wrong relationship,I get crippling pain.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm like, okay, I'm paying attention.
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Time to leave.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's fun.
So how do you help people?
What do you do now?
What I do is I love workingwith people who have.
This big dream in their heart,whether it could be an entrepreneur
for like a coaching business.
Mm-hmm.
It could be someone who dreamsof having like a nonprofit.
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It could be someone who sees themselveslike as an artist and selling pieces for
like hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Someone with a big dream, and I helpthem . In two different ways, training
their brain to be able to hit their goals.
And the first way is interms of neuroscience.
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'cause I'm science backed here,you've got the two things.
First way in terms of neuroscience, whenyou change your beliefs, you change your
perspective, you change your identity.
You're no longer looking atyourself of, oh, I can't do this.
Oh, like it's hard.
You're looking at life of, okay, all theright opportunities are flowing to me.
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I am the type of person to do this.
If anyone can do this, it's me.
Right?
When you just have those internalshifts, you take different
action, you change your behaviors.
So the first way that I help peopleis changing their brains to be able to
change the way that they respond to theworld so that they can take the actions
that are aligned with that big goal ofbeing that singer on stage of being that
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massive speaker, of having the nonprofit.
Changing their behaviors for that.
And the second way is understandingthe quantum physics behind things.
Mm-hmm.
Because you know, when you change yourstate of mind, when we get into the
science of atomic behavior, atoms existin pure wave function when there is no.
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State of awareness around it.
Right?
Just, just in the, and if we thinkof this concept, it's like there's
evasive flowers behind you, and noone's looking at evasive flowers.
No one's, no one ispaying attention to it.
Essentially what this is saying is the VAsof flowers literally disappear into like
waves of just pure potential energy untilsomeone puts their awareness back onto it.
Then they collapse backinto physical form.
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The way in which atomscollapse into physical form.
Each atom has an infinite potential of theway it could collapse into physical form.
And this is what the science is showingin the way of the studies, which I could
get into, which, if you wanna get intothat, it's a whole like, mind boggling.
I still am.
Like, it's like no matter how muchyou learn about it, you're still like,
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like trying to grasp the concept.
The way in which Adams collapsedin a physical form is dependent
on what you are expecting.
Mm-hmm.
Is dependent on the state ofmind that that person is in.
If they, they did the study where it waslike a flash of light, a randomized flash
of light was flashing around this box ofroom, and I think they had like mice or
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I think it was mice in that same room.
And if.
They were looking at the same spot, thelight would keep hitting that same spot.
So the mice were the state of mindthat were there looking at the same
spot in the point of the room, andthe light was hitting that same
spot in the point of the room.
Mm-hmm.
It was showing that when thereis an awareness there, it was
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showing that when there isfocus energy flows or focus goes.
Adam's collapsing in that physicalform where there is energy there, where
there is focus, where we're what weexpect, and so we can physically change
these circumstances in our reality.
We can physically change if everythingexists all around us right now.
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And dependent on what we have ourawareness on is dependent on what we see.
So I'll, I'll go intoanother point with this.
There are millions and millions of bits ofinformation surrounding us at every point.
And given time.
Yes.
And then we have our reticularactivating system in our brain.
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The filtering system in ourbrain that picks out, oh, and
I always forget the number.
You might remember it 'cause it's NLP.
Yeah.
20 to 40 bits of information.
I think so, yes.
And I think different studiessay different things, and that's
why it's hard for me to remember.
But we pick out a needle in ahaystack of what is actually around
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us and what needle we pick out ofthe millions of bits of information
that are around us is dependent onour belief systems, what we focus on
when we have a lot of emotions behind,and what our past memories support.
And so if we begin tochange the state of mind.
We begin to change theneedle of the haystack.
We pick out, we begin to change, andour circumstances of what we see, of
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what we experience, our awareness.
Instead of having your awareness onsomeone who only sees the opportunity
to sell their art pieces for 20bucks on Etsy, you're able to change
your point of awareness for thatartist to be able to put their.
Awareness on the opportunity to selltheir art piece, make an art piece,
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sell that art piece for $200,000.
Mm-hmm.
To someone who would really love it,interior for the rest of their lives.
Sure.
So what I hear you saying is , the samepainting, for example, the difference
in sales price is based on the artist'smindset and their belief system.
A hundred percent.
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That's crazy, isn't it?
And so.
Changing the brain to changehow the world responds to you.
Mm-hmm.
So the two ways of you change theway that you respond to the world.
You change the way that the world respondsto you, and those two are everything.
Mm-hmm.
Like every single successful personwill tell you mindset comes first.
But there's such a deeper science behindit that so many people are going over
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their heads, they're trying to hustleand force, which is not the answer.
The answer is to train the brain in a.Certain way to align it to your goals,
align your belief systems and identityto your goals so that you can actually
achieve the things that you want to,because when you achieve your dreams
and your desires by a natural byproduct,you are making the world a better place.
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Nice.
I like that.
So you train people how to changethe way they think basically, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's neuro, was itneurolinguistic programming?
Is that called, is that how you say it?
Yes, N lp.
All right.
I've done some of that andit's crazy how it works.
NLP is crazy how it works.
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Yes.
Mm-hmm.
I'm an NLP practitioner.
I got certified two, three years agoand then, uh, just last, just last
February, I was like, you know what?
I wanna go up again for anothertraining, and I did it again.
But it's essentially.
Yeah.
Understanding how thesubconscious mind speaks.
Mm-hmm.
And going in and being able to speakthe language of the subconscious mind
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to rewire its programming, rewire thecomputer programming of your human body.
Yes.
Well, , I do.
I'm a reiki master quantum healer.
I work on people all the time, andthe, one of the things I realized early
on is if we don't change the mind.
No matter how much I heal your body.
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Mm-hmm.
If you don't change the way you think,if you don't change that computer up
there, you're never gonna get better.
100%. And that's one of the things Iwas, I have recently started working on
is trying to, how do I figure that out?
How do I do that?
So I take my NLP training in, I thinkMarch or April coming up this year.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to that.
So Nice.
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Now you've been doing thatwork for how many years?
Three years.
NLP specifically?
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Yeah.
And I want to touch on somethingbefore we change topics, just with
that one thing that you had said.
What your belief systems are,what your identity is, when
you have thoughts it sends.
Signals, electrical signals to yourbody that ignite the emotions in
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your body, the hormones in your body.
What is going on in your brain iswhat is going on in your energy field.
And so it goes hand in hand when , theygo to you for energy healing and you
can change their energy directly.
Yes, you have that power, thatimpact, but then if they're going
out into their day and they'rethinking the same thoughts and they're
being the same person That's right.
And they're having the sameidentity, they're having the same.
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Like emotional crises, they're goingto recreate that same old energy
field and recreate those same physicalailments and whatever it is that
they're struggling with all over again.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I, um, this last year I have,
I don't know, there's threeor four instances this last
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year where I wanted something.
For example, this building, I justbought this building from my dad, right?
Mm-hmm.
And I went to the bank and the firstbank I went to, she's like, she
wouldn't even pay attention to me.
She says, yeah, you're not gonna qualify.
Kick rocks.
I mean, she was kind of a jerk about it.
So as time went by, I applied for acouple other places and they said, Hey
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Wes, you're not gonna qualify for it.
'cause nobody wants to lendmoney to this type of building.
, just the economy, just things aredifferent and they are not thrilled about
lending money to an office space building.
So.
I remember I was, I was drivingdown the street and I pulled
over and , I just prayed to God.
I said, Hey, if you wantme to have this mm-hmm.
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You need to put the people in frontof me because I'm tired of fighting.
So the energy of me fightingfor that, the energy of me being
angry about it, I just let it go.
Three days later, , this wonderful loanofficer Casey shows up, she gets me the
building and she works for the same bank.
That denied me the first time.
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, if you think about that, if you wantto change your reality when you go
inside and change yourself mm-hmm.
I mean, in that specificcircumstance mm-hmm.
Same bank, same building.
Mm-hmm.
Same on paper paperwork that I had.
And all of a sudden nowthey're happy to have me.
And then when, when I firststarted, . I was frustrated and angry.
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And it changed everything.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It's, and that, it's crazy how that works.
It is crazy how that works.
And just in that one instance of being,of going from angry to that surrendering
, your whole energy field, if we thinkof it in terms of energy, it goes from
almost like a. Porcupine type energyto, yeah, like an open field energy
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where God is like, okay, you're ready.
Like, let me, let me drop you the gifts.
Yep.
Yep.
, do you listen to Joel Osteen?
Do you like listening to him?
Uh, name sounds so familiar.
He's a pastor out of Texas.
Okay.
I like listening to himand, , do you believe in God?
I do.
Okay.
So, well, some people like the universe,so I, I don't know, like to ask, but.
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God speaks to me throughhis program and other stuff.
People ask me all thetime, , how do you hear God?
Now sometimes if I pray to himand I ask him to heal me, I will
clearly hear him say, I will.
, it's not as fluid as when I speak toJesus or Archangel Michael, but it's
interesting if I have something going on.
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And I turn on XM radio.
It's not like I have tolisten to the entire sermon.
It's the second I get in the car.
Mm-hmm.
The answer is right there.
Mm-hmm.
And that has given me so much clarityand I, , I don't know about you.
I, I'm 55, you look like you're22, but I think there's a
little age difference there.
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I've searched my whole lifetrying to figure out how to heal
from the pain that haunts me.
And I would hear people say, oh,look at love and unconditional
love, and that would piss me off.
I'm a retired marine.
I don't think Marines were very,uh, we're not too open-minded.
Let's just say that.
, we weren't love and light,not open-hearted type people.
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No, no.
We didn't walk aroundsaying, oh gosh, I love you.
Yeah.
That didn't happen, but.
I got to the point where I was sobroken, I was willing to do anything,
and I started to pay attention andlisten to people when they told me
to look inside myself for the answer.
And I found that difficult.
I didn't understand what that was.
And , when I, I find myself turning offmy cell phone, turning off the tv, stop
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talking to, , whomever you're chattingwith on your cell phone and go and sit.
Here pretty soon I start to hear myself.
Mm-hmm.
I start to see things differentlyand take responsibility for the
energy that's in my energy fieldhas changed everything for me.
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Mm-hmm.
Everything.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it's, it's like that sheet codeto life, but they don't teach us that.
Right.
Yeah.
I know when I first started to get intothis, and I experienced the radical
transformation within myself of goingfrom having the lifelong depression and
anxiety from as long as I could remember.
I can remember being a little girland just I, for as long as I can
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remember, going from so sociallyanxious to, uh, having so many problems
in all of my relationships, everysingle one of my relationships, to
just doing the complete opposite.
Just of what you were saying, payingattention to what's going on inside.
Mm-hmm.
And being mindful to beginto switch the narrative.
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Being intentional to shift theemotions that I was practicing
that day and every day.
I completely shifted to likeone of the most optimistic,
happiest, genuinely fulfilled.
Yeah.
Social butterfly can talk to anyone.
Like my relationships are thriving,friendships, partner, family, like
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everything that you can imagine becauseI began to do like the quote unquote
dirty work of sitting with myself andworking through the shit that comes up.
Yep.
I remember I started on this journey.
I met.
TNA at the Reiki Wellness Center and shedoes life coaching and she was, I was
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seeing her once a week and I seen heronce a week for like first three years.
, I just had a lot going on and I neededhelp and I was willing, and I, I don't
know, I guess it was maybe six orseven months in to this journey, right.
It was weird.
In about a two week timeperiod, I had tons and tons of
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people message me on Facebook.
And a lot of these people I didn'tknow, , we got people we, we just don't
know that we're friends with, and, andthey were all saying the same thing.
You've changed something'sdifferent about you.
And I'm like, what thefuck are you talking about?
You don't even fucking know me.
I mean, that was just so bizarre.
, they were picking up the energyand stuff as I was shifting.
Mm-hmm.
And, um.
I think that was the first timeI realized something is changing
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because I thought maybe it was.
Mm-hmm.
But you know, people outsideof myself seen it before I did.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
'cause I still carried that traumaof I'm ugly, weak, and stupid.
That's what I was toldthrough my whole childhood.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so, , that tookmany more years to heal.
That's now going away now.
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And, um,
, it's just such a beautiful journey.
, it's, that's why the podcast is,enlightenment unknown life of a spiritual
nomad because it's a nomadic journey.
Mm-hmm.
No matter who you're friends with, nomatter who your partner is, , you're
still on that, you're still doing the deepwork in your mind and doing that stuff.
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So I like that.
It's cool.
It reminds me of when I had first gotteninto this type of work too, and I'm
trying all the different tools and Itried a lot of shit that didn't work,
but I also tried a lot of shit that did,and I remember doing this one practice,
which I later learned was an NLP practice.
But essentially you go in, you feelthe stagnant energy in your body, you
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soften into it, and you kind of let the.
First memory that comes through ofwhat is like trapped in that emotional,
, the stagnant energy in your body.
You let the memory come throughand then you feel through the
emotions, you let them release.
And I had been practicing that and Ihad quite a lot of things coming up.
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And the next day I, I didthat for maybe two hours.
One evening, the next dayI go into my serving job.
I was waitressing at the time.
And I couldn't tell you how manypeople were coming up to me being
like, Sabrina, you're glowing.
And I'm like, oh, thanks.
And they're like, did you cut your hair?
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Are you like mm-hmm.
Doing something?
Did you tan?
Like, what's going on?
And I'm, I'm like thinking, I'msaying, oh, I didn't do anything, but
I'm thinking in my head, it was thatenergy practice that I did last night.
Yep.
The energy clearings and I'm, now, I justcall it the, like, um, getting like your.
The glow up.
I call it The glow up.
The glow up.
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I like that when you do the deepenergy work, because it's not just
like people can feel the shift.
Mm-hmm.
Like they can't deny it.
Yeah.
Well.
I'm sure you experience it, you, you'llgo into some places your vibration is
really, , some days it, I don't feellike my vibe is as high as others.
Mm-hmm.
But you'll walk into a restaurantand everybody stops and looks
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at you and you're walking downthe street and everybody's kind
of looking, I'm like, oh, hi.
Mm-hmm.
, it's, it is, , they see that energy.
They, they're picking up on that and
it, it's, it's magnetizing.
Yeah.
It, and.
Again, I just find it shocking thatit's not on the six o'clock news.
How's that not possible?
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That's, that's what I'm saying is that'swhen I started to post things online
about this and start the YouTube channel.
And I started the Instagram because I waslike, more people need to know about this.
Mm-hmm.
And, and every single area of life now.
I love helping high performers and I loveworking with established entrepreneurs
and all those types of people.
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But in every area of your life,you can apply these same principles
and create so much transformation.
Mm-hmm.
And completely change everything.
Absolutely.
Now you, you have a podcast.
Yes, Shattering Reality Podcast.
Shattering Reality Podcast.
Now, is that the YouTube page aswell, or is those two separate things?
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What is that?
No, so I have my YouTube and myInstagram For Better You by Sabrina,
and that is all of for like theLaw of Attraction, entrepreneurial.
Type talk better you by Sabrina?
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
And then I had so many esoteric topicsthat were just in my heart that I wanted
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to talk about so many crazy experiencesthat I had so many in insane, like
movie-like stories that I needed to share.
And I was like, thisdoesn't fit my better you.
Yeah.
And so I was one night I, um.
I was sitting in my apartmentand it just came to me.
I'm like, I need tohave a separate podcast.
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Mm-hmm.
Just for all of my esoterictopics to have a space.
And so that is myShattering Reality podcast.
Nice.
I like it.
Well, I don't know, you probablyhaven't listened to my podcast 'cause
we just really just met, I mean,today's the first time we've ever
really sat and had a conversation.
Yes, we did 20 minutes ago.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
So I like doing it that way becausethat way it makes it more authentic
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when we're asking questions.
Mm-hmm.
And , my spiritual awakeningstarted in this horrible haunted
house and this paranormalexperience that lasted nine months.
So the first two seasons of my podcast isthat, but we wanted the show to be about
how life happens for you and not to you.
Mm-hmm.
And I remember at one point.
Going through the hauntedhouse and, uh, a healer name.
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Did you ever know Sandra Grace Brooks?
I don't think so.
Yeah, she passed away a couple years ago.
Man, she always had a smile onher face, laughed all the time.
I love, I love Sandra Grace andso she was the first healer I ever
met, and I didn't know anythingabout Reiki or any of that stuff.
I wasn't gonna talk back then.
I wasn't gonna talkabout that fucking shit.
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I can tell you that right now.
That's no.
Mm-hmm.
And I remember standing in my yardafter she left, and I remember
thinking to myself, because Iwas so alone, so broken, and
, at that point in my life, justfighting to stay alive with
this paranormal stuff going on.
Mm-hmm.
That when I got through what Iwas gonna tell the world about it.
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And that's kind of where the podcast istoo, because there's people out there
that need to hear this stuff is real.
Mm-hmm.
That you're not alone, that you are loved,that you're beautiful, that you're gifted,
and you know there's a safe space for you.
Mm-hmm.
So I've enjoyed that.
It's been fun.
Absolutely.
And I know I've had my own fairshare of paranormal experiences.
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Nice.
So my favorite question,do you see dead people?
I. Turn it off, I've, I've playedaround with going into different
psychics and I have friends whoare very psychically in tuned.
Mm-hmm.
I know some people don't resonatewith the word psychic, but
people who are very in tuned and.
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Every single, extremely giftedperson I've came across has said,
you have every single like giftthat you could even think of.
Like it's come ancestrally, it's come,it's come through your bloodline.
It's come through past lives.
They're like, you have everything.
They're like, but it's upto you to open them or not.
They're like, you've, you'velike dabbled in some, but.
And I'm just sitting there like, I knowI've been, I saw spirits all the time
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when I was a kid, but I think I got to thepoint when I was like 10 or 11 where I was
like, I was so terrified because I grewup on horror films and paranormal movies.
Sure.
Which of course, yeah.
Like everybody.
Yeah.
Infiltrate all of these.
Horrid images, and honestly, I thinkit's just poison to your consciousness.
And I got so terrified at those ages.
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I just remember I continued.
Now that I'm looking back, I'm like.
I was like energeticallyshutting them out.
But I continued to like put myhands up and being like, you're
not allowed to look at me.
I don't wanna see you.
I don't wanna hear you.
I don't want you to touch me.
I don't want you to moveanything in the house.
I don't want you to, I don'twanna hear footsteps, nothing.
Mm-hmm.
And every single time I heard aninkling or saw an inkling, I would
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close my eyes and I would say, no.
And I put all those walls up andI have yet to open them back up.
Yeah.
I think I seen one ghost when I was a kid.
I had no gifts, no intuition, no nothing.
And then everything turned on at once.
That's ha I, I have a bestfriend who that's happened to.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that was, uh, that was maddening.
I think that was 2019.
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So I just got comfortablebeing in my skin from that.
Maybe a year ago.
Wow.
'cause you're sitting here and I havedragons that I work with and I see
dead people and do all these thingsand , I can connect with a client
in Australia and she can tell me,oh, you're touching my left elbow.
And it's just like all thesemagical, beautiful things.
(35:03):
Mm-hmm.
And.
Then I have to go to work, , I gottadrive up the street in traffic.
Mm-hmm.
You know, that's, it tookme a while to get here.
So, um, I am glad I'm alittle bit more grounded.
I don't like to be grounded.
Mm-hmm.
And, um, but yeah, it's been interesting.
It's definitely interesting blending.
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When you dip into that and you'reso in these spiritual realms and
you're understanding that there'sso much more to meet the eye.
It is, it's, it's work, it'spractice to really ground the energy
out while working in the energyfields and working in the quantum.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
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It's a, it's a lot.
It is, it is definitely a lot.
And, uh, have you, do you know Margaret.
I don't think so.
Uh, I have to introduce you to her.
Uh, Margaret Bryant,she's in town right now.
She is, , a mentor.
She's a good friend of mine, and I don'tunderstand 99% of the stuff she talks
about in the realms that she operatesin, , is, is really, really out there.
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But she's super gifted andshe's a wonderful lady.
So, , if you had, let me take a step back.
What is one thing you could tell thelisteners they could do to change
their reality, change their life?
What would that be?
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I would say to take a note on your,
what you are experiencing right now.
Whatever you are experiencing rightnow is a reflection of your current
belief systems in your current state.
So if you can.
Write down on a piece of paperwhat you are experiencing right
now and bring that back to, okay,if I'm experiencing all of this
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turmoil in my relationships, mm-hmm.
If I'm experiencing all of this strugglein my finances, in my career, what belief
systems, what thought patterns, go backto that and begin to trace that back.
And then just on a separatepiece of paper, I call this
mapping out your new identity.
On a separate piece of paper, write downwhat you would ideally like to live.
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No, no.
Thinking logically here, wherewould you ideally like to live?
What would you ideally like to have?
Or hobbies?
What would you ideally like tomake in money, relationships?
Write that out.
And then write what belief systems andthought patterns and emotional patterns.
You would have to live by for this.
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And then just start practicing.
Just start practicing the newidentity, and I call it PRR.
Pause, regulate rewire.
When you catch yourself in old tendencies,you wanna pause, you wanna regulate
your nervous system, regulate your.
Whatever emotions, anxiety, frustrationmight have been triggered, regulate that.
I'll get yourself to a groundedstate and then rewire to the new,
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and that's such a simple way.
When you make those tweaks, everysingle step that you make towards
that new life, towards that newidentity, towards that new energy,
you are shifting the trajectory ofwhat you're putting your awareness on.
You're shifting, like you're doing miniquantum leaps every single time you make
a new decision and you decide to PRR end.
(38:25):
Put your attention onwhat you wanna focus on.
Sure.
Now you do one-on-one coaching, right?
I do.
I have one-on-one coaching, I havegroup program, I have a membership.
Nice.
So if somebody wanted tolearn how to do this mm-hmm.
They could call you?
Absolutely.
And how would they connectwith you to change your life?
(38:47):
The quickest way to connectwith me is on Instagram.
Better you by Sabrina.
Just send me a dm. Alright.
And I'll get back to you.
And you can check out my YouTube videos.
Better you by Sabrina as well.
That would give you, if you wanna learnmore for free and get more content on
that, you can check me out there too.
Nice.
So how many, how long have youbeen doing the videos on YouTube?
(39:10):
Hmm.
I wanna say I started 2019 or 2020.
Oh wow.
You've been doing that a while.
But I didn't post for the first, like.
I wasn't postingconsistently for a minute.
Mm-hmm.
But yes, I've been on it for, 'causeit was, I wanna say it was 2019 or
2020 when I fully made the switch.
(39:31):
Wow.
That's cool.
It's interesting how technology ischanging the world for, in a good way.
Absolutely.
, it's bringing, God to your home.
It's bringing the.
The choice for somebody tochoose themselves may be
maybe for the first time ever.
Mm-hmm.
(39:51):
I like that.
I'm putting together a program rightnow to help people with cancer heal.
Mm. , so I'm looking forward tothat coming out here probably
in the next 30 to 60 days.
So we'll see.
It'll be fun.
That's beautiful.
That's awesome.
Beautiful.
Thank you for coming on the show.
This has been fun.
And, , this was a nice surprise.
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See, I didn't know anything about you, soeverything was just a nice surprise today.
So thanks.
Thank you so much.
I could talk about this topicfor ages, and I feel like we
could have so many conversations.
Yeah, it'd be fun.
Well, you're clearly intelligent.
You clearly know what's going on.
You're, you're super in tune and, . Ithink it's fun that you see dead people.
(40:34):
I don't, but it's okay.
Yeah, I see 'em all the time,so, well, thanks everybody.
Thanks for tuning in and , hit upSabrina and if you wanna change your
life, she has a fantastic program.
She's got great energy and I thinkyou're gonna like what you connect with.
See you next time.
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You've been listening to EnlightenmentUnknown with Wes Coons, your guide on
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Welcome to Enlightenment UnknownLife of a Spiritual Nomad.
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Welcome to Enlightenment UnknownLife of a Spiritual Nomad.
(00:30):
Welcome back everybody.
I tell you what, I havehad the craziest week.
The energy has been wild.
And today I have a very, veryspecial guest, so I want to
say hello to Sabrina Bel.
Yes.
Am I saying it right?
Yes.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Hello.
Hello.
Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah, this is cool.
(00:51):
You know the best part about this job.
I have some of the most powerfulladies in the industry get to sit
in that chair and come on this show.
It's fun.
So thanks for being here.
Thank you so much for inviting me.
You're welcome.
First I wanted to say hello to Lebanon
Jordan, Bahrain, Hawaii,and it isn't interesting.
(01:12):
We have Palestine and Israel now onthe show, thanks for joining us.
We appreciate it.
So, gosh, what's today's date?
What, we're mid-July, right?
mid-July, yes.
Yeah, it's been 5,000 degreeshere in Virginia Beach.
Oh my gosh.
That heat wave came through.
It was crazy so tell us who you are.
What do you do?
Yes.
I help creatives, dreamers, andentrepreneurs how to train their
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brains to turn their dreams to reality.
I'll start with how I fell intothis because it's a crazy story.
Summer of 2018 and, um, I wason track for nursing school.
That was my whole life.
I had planned to go to nursing school.
I had planned, I wanted to helppeople and I was in a depression
(01:57):
and anxiety for my entire life.
One summer my sister comes tome and she is tells me about The
Secret on Netflix documentary.
Yeah, I've, I've watched that.
That's great.
I like that.
I was never introduced to theLaw of Attract before that.
And so she introduced me tothat and I was like, she said,
oh, you've gotta watch this.
I just like manifested all this money.
(02:19):
You have to watch this.
And so I'm like, what?
So I turn it on and I watch it.
And it wasn't like complete 180 shiftof my life right then and there,
but it sparked just enough interestin me where I was like this, like
what if this has some truth to it?
Mm-hmm.
(02:39):
And.
It got me to a point where Istarted to, I'm very science based.
I was on track for nursing school.
I loved the nursing part becauseI loved learning about the science
behind the body and how we like justbiologically like how we've run.
And so I got really interestedinto the science part of this.
I said, okay, if this isreal, I can see how I've been.
(03:01):
Manifesting all these negativerelationships in my life until
this point, I've, I can see howthis can be real, this whole law of
attraction manifestation type thing.
So let me look more into it.
I got into a rabbit hole of looking intoneuroscience and quantum physics, which
quantum physics is the study of basicallythe study of the law of attraction,
(03:25):
but the study of matter and energy.
Mm-hmm.
IG got the book mind.
I think it's mine too matter by Dr.Wayne Dyer has all these different, like
doctors forwarding it, which was my thing.
I'm like, okay, I wanna see the research.
I wanna see the facts.
And so you're, you're notanalytical at all, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so I get this book, and I'm justlooking at research after research
(03:47):
article, and I see this one studythat stood out to me and it was
talking about distant healings.
Mm-hmm.
And it was saying how.
Everything is connected and how we'rekind of just like this web of energy
versus what we look at 3D and how it'sall separated, which is so different
(04:09):
than what we're taught in school.
And I'm looking into Dr. Dispenza andhe's talking about all these different,
like the books that he's getting intois talking about a very similar things.
And I'm like, okay, all of thesedifferent doctors have studies
and science behind the same thing.
This one study in Mindto Matter was saying how.
Yeah, there can be a person on the otherside of the world kilometers away, and we
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can send them quote unquote healing energyand we can have a significant impact and
actually heal diseases or, yes, we can.
Yeah.
Heal someone emotionally, physically,all of the different things.
And it had the science andthe research behind that.
Mm-hmm.
(04:52):
I was reading that study.
And on track for nursing school afterdiscovering now like getting into
the science of the law of attraction.
And I'm like, what the hell?
Yeah.
Like how like more people needto be learning about this.
I would have never learnedabout this in nursing school.
I would've never been able to, andmy whole thing of wanting to be a
(05:14):
nursing school and wanting to be anurse was to, I wanted to help people.
That was like my thing.
And I'm like, I couldhelp way more people.
Doing this, like Absolutely.
Absolutely.
So why do you think they don'tteach that in nursing school?
Why do you think thedoctors don't talk about it?
I, I've seen some reports where Sentarais starting to bring in reiki people
(05:36):
to work on cancer patients stuff now.
And, um, but do youthink it's, it is just.
Big pharma is making too muchmoney off of this that they can't
think outside of the box or, orwhat do you think that might be?
It very well could be.
I mean, we could go into likethe conspiracy theory, quote
unquote conspiracy theories.
(05:57):
Mm-hmm.
When I was at the Dr. Joe Dispenserretreat, he even brought up, like
on the screen, the presentation.
He was talking and he hadso many other doctors there.
Um, just talking about the mind blowingeffects that even just the energy
healings, how they have done, havecreate like instantaneous miraculous like
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healings and they were showing us how.
The US is, I'm, I don't feel like I'mgonna quote this exactly right, but
it was something along the lines oflike, the US is like pharmaceuticals
and the US is, uh, like whatwe're paying for health insurance.
And it was comparing USSrates versus other countries.
Yeah.
And US was like crazy.
(06:41):
Like, I think it was like trillions andtrillions of dollars like crazy up there
while other countries were not, and.
I think a big part of it, like withme and now it's been seven years that
I've been very deep into this work andI keep coming across that same thing.
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Pharmaceuticals.
That's how the government's makingall of this money and so main, it
would make sense why they would notwant to teach that in the mainstream.
School systems, but it's coming outlike people can't help but to see it.
Yeah.
And to experience it.
They do.
I have people show up in myhealing space all the time saying,
I've tried everything else.
I'm desperate.
(07:22):
Can you help?
Mm-hmm.
And , I think I've got clients in 80countries now, so, doing that long
distance work and connecting, um.
With that person at a deep, intimate leveland then being able to see what's haunting
them or it's what's blocking them.
Mm-hmm.
It's fun to do.
I love doing that work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, speaking of which I like and justhow the, what may be haunting us mm-hmm.
(07:49):
Can cause any type ofphysical, like ailment.
I truly believe that so many differentphysical ailments that we have.
It starts in our energy field beforeit starts in our physical body.
I believe that.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
And they were, I mean, and I'm,I quote Dr. Dispenza all the time
because he's so science backed.
Like he, he doesn't just say things,just to say things like when he says
(08:12):
something, it's because he has researcharticle, research article, evidence,
evidence, a team behind him, like sayinglike, yes, like this is, this is it.
Yeah.
And he doesn't come across as, not to bemean, but kind of out there, ? Mm-hmm.
A lot of people thattalk about this stuff.
, they're not science-based.
They don't have that background.
And um, I appreciate that.
(08:33):
'cause my human brain, my, , Iown a real estate company.
I do healing work and stuff like that.
So in my mind, if I'm gonna look atit, I wanna make sure it's, it is
actual and it's not just somebody onthe internet talking some crazy stuff.
'cause they have some mm-hmm.
I mean.
There's a couple people I follow thatare interesting and I'm like, I don't
(08:53):
even know what you guys are talkingabout it so far out there, but yeah.
Yeah, it's cool.
So it sounds like thatscrewed up your whole career.
Oh, it a good way.
It definitely did in a good way.
I'd say it was a big blessing in disguise.
So I'll progress with the story,so I. On track for nursing school.
(09:14):
Found out the about the law ofattraction was like, no fucking way.
Like this is crazy what I'm learning.
Mm-hmm.
And then I just feel this, this wasthe first time I heard my intuition,
but it came loud and clear like a bellin my head and it said, do not go to
nursing school, start a YouTube channel.
And I was just like stuck in like.
(09:37):
Uh, what, what is this?
What should I do energy for?
I would say like six months or soon the fence of, I had been, I was
certified as an EMT, I worked in the firedepartment, I worked in the hospital.
I grew connections all over thepeninsula to different, , medical
professionals, so I could have.
Because I didn't wanna just stop at rn.
I wanted to like, like this medicalfield was going to be my entire life.
(09:59):
Sure.
And it had been until that point.
And so, yeah.
Screwed up my entire career.
But I had, I had told myself, Iwas like, you know what I've been
doing, I've been on the trackfor nursing school for this long.
Like, I'm going to not listento my intuition and I'm going
to still go for nursing school.
(10:20):
And I tried.
That did not work.
Yeah.
How'd that work for you?
I got accepted into twoschools with flying colors and
was like, great, I'm on it.
Let's go get into nursing school.
In the first two weeks of nursing school,I bought all my textbooks, everything.
They pull me aside andthey say, your government.
(10:42):
Loans.
I had FAFSA covering my school.
They said, your government loansaren't like covering your classes.
I'm like, what do you mean?
Like everything got approved?
They're like, no, it didn't get approved.
Now it's showing that it's notapproved and you have to either like.
Pay thousands of dollars every coupleof weeks for the next few months just to
pay for this semester and then do thatagain the following semester or drop out.
(11:06):
And I was like, you'vegotta be kidding me.
And there was no other way around it.
So even when I tried to ignore myintuition and do this anyway, if
it was like it was intervened, andI say it was the biggest blessing
in disguise because I was so upset,but it ended up turning into.
Such a beautiful life and being ableto help people in such a impactful,
(11:30):
transformational way that I do now.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
The universal move you whenyou're not paying attention.
Yes, a hundred percent.
Sometimes quite painfully,that's for sure.
Sometimes quite painfully.
I, I've ex, I've experienced thatin relationships a lot, so you know.
Mm-hmm.
If I'm in the wrong relationship,I get crippling pain.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm like, okay, I'm paying attention.
(11:50):
Time to leave.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's fun.
So how do you help people?
What do you do now?
What I do is I love workingwith people who have.
This big dream in their heart,whether it could be an entrepreneur
for like a coaching business.
Mm-hmm.
It could be someone who dreamsof having like a nonprofit.
(12:10):
It could be someone who sees themselveslike as an artist and selling pieces for
like hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Someone with a big dream, and I helpthem . In two different ways, training
their brain to be able to hit their goals.
And the first way is interms of neuroscience.
(12:32):
'cause I'm science backed here,you've got the two things.
First way in terms of neuroscience, whenyou change your beliefs, you change your
perspective, you change your identity.
You're no longer looking atyourself of, oh, I can't do this.
Oh, like it's hard.
You're looking at life of, okay, all theright opportunities are flowing to me.
(12:52):
I am the type of person to do this.
If anyone can do this, it's me.
Right?
When you just have those internalshifts, you take different
action, you change your behaviors.
So the first way that I help peopleis changing their brains to be able to
change the way that they respond to theworld so that they can take the actions
that are aligned with that big goal ofbeing that singer on stage of being that
(13:14):
massive speaker, of having the nonprofit.
Changing their behaviors for that.
And the second way is understandingthe quantum physics behind things.
Mm-hmm.
Because you know, when you change yourstate of mind, when we get into the
science of atomic behavior, atoms existin pure wave function when there is no.
(13:37):
State of awareness around it.
Right?
Just, just in the, and if we thinkof this concept, it's like there's
evasive flowers behind you, and noone's looking at evasive flowers.
No one's, no one ispaying attention to it.
Essentially what this is saying is the VAsof flowers literally disappear into like
waves of just pure potential energy untilsomeone puts their awareness back onto it.
Then they collapse backinto physical form.
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The way in which atomscollapse into physical form.
Each atom has an infinite potential of theway it could collapse into physical form.
And this is what the science is showingin the way of the studies, which I could
get into, which, if you wanna get intothat, it's a whole like, mind boggling.
I still am.
Like, it's like no matter how muchyou learn about it, you're still like,
(14:21):
like trying to grasp the concept.
The way in which Adams collapsedin a physical form is dependent
on what you are expecting.
Mm-hmm.
Is dependent on the state ofmind that that person is in.
If they, they did the study where it waslike a flash of light, a randomized flash
of light was flashing around this box ofroom, and I think they had like mice or
(14:46):
I think it was mice in that same room.
And if.
They were looking at the same spot, thelight would keep hitting that same spot.
So the mice were the state of mindthat were there looking at the same
spot in the point of the room, andthe light was hitting that same
spot in the point of the room.
Mm-hmm.
It was showing that when thereis an awareness there, it was
(15:06):
showing that when there isfocus energy flows or focus goes.
Adam's collapsing in that physicalform where there is energy there, where
there is focus, where we're what weexpect, and so we can physically change
these circumstances in our reality.
We can physically change if everythingexists all around us right now.
(15:31):
And dependent on what we have ourawareness on is dependent on what we see.
So I'll, I'll go intoanother point with this.
There are millions and millions of bits ofinformation surrounding us at every point.
And given time.
Yes.
And then we have our reticularactivating system in our brain.
(15:51):
The filtering system in ourbrain that picks out, oh, and
I always forget the number.
You might remember it 'cause it's NLP.
Yeah.
20 to 40 bits of information.
I think so, yes.
And I think different studiessay different things, and that's
why it's hard for me to remember.
But we pick out a needle in ahaystack of what is actually around
(16:11):
us and what needle we pick out ofthe millions of bits of information
that are around us is dependent onour belief systems, what we focus on
when we have a lot of emotions behind,and what our past memories support.
And so if we begin tochange the state of mind.
We begin to change theneedle of the haystack.
We pick out, we begin to change, andour circumstances of what we see, of
(16:34):
what we experience, our awareness.
Instead of having your awareness onsomeone who only sees the opportunity
to sell their art pieces for 20bucks on Etsy, you're able to change
your point of awareness for thatartist to be able to put their.
Awareness on the opportunity to selltheir art piece, make an art piece,
(16:55):
sell that art piece for $200,000.
Mm-hmm.
To someone who would really love it,interior for the rest of their lives.
Sure.
So what I hear you saying is , the samepainting, for example, the difference
in sales price is based on the artist'smindset and their belief system.
A hundred percent.
(17:16):
That's crazy, isn't it?
And so.
Changing the brain to changehow the world responds to you.
Mm-hmm.
So the two ways of you change theway that you respond to the world.
You change the way that the world respondsto you, and those two are everything.
Mm-hmm.
Like every single successful personwill tell you mindset comes first.
But there's such a deeper science behindit that so many people are going over
(17:37):
their heads, they're trying to hustleand force, which is not the answer.
The answer is to train the brain in a.Certain way to align it to your goals,
align your belief systems and identityto your goals so that you can actually
achieve the things that you want to,because when you achieve your dreams
and your desires by a natural byproduct,you are making the world a better place.
(18:00):
Nice.
I like that.
So you train people how to changethe way they think basically, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's neuro, was itneurolinguistic programming?
Is that called, is that how you say it?
Yes, N lp.
All right.
I've done some of that andit's crazy how it works.
NLP is crazy how it works.
(18:21):
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
I'm an NLP practitioner.
I got certified two, three years agoand then, uh, just last, just last
February, I was like, you know what?
I wanna go up again for anothertraining, and I did it again.
But it's essentially.
Yeah.
Understanding how thesubconscious mind speaks.
Mm-hmm.
And going in and being able to speakthe language of the subconscious mind
(18:42):
to rewire its programming, rewire thecomputer programming of your human body.
Yes.
Well, , I do.
I'm a reiki master quantum healer.
I work on people all the time, andthe, one of the things I realized early
on is if we don't change the mind.
No matter how much I heal your body.
(19:02):
Mm-hmm.
If you don't change the way you think,if you don't change that computer up
there, you're never gonna get better.
100%. And that's one of the things Iwas, I have recently started working on
is trying to, how do I figure that out?
How do I do that?
So I take my NLP training in, I thinkMarch or April coming up this year.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to that.
So Nice.
(19:23):
Now you've been doing thatwork for how many years?
Three years.
NLP specifically?
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Yeah.
And I want to touch on somethingbefore we change topics, just with
that one thing that you had said.
What your belief systems are,what your identity is, when
you have thoughts it sends.
Signals, electrical signals to yourbody that ignite the emotions in
(19:46):
your body, the hormones in your body.
What is going on in your brain iswhat is going on in your energy field.
And so it goes hand in hand when , theygo to you for energy healing and you
can change their energy directly.
Yes, you have that power, thatimpact, but then if they're going
out into their day and they'rethinking the same thoughts and they're
being the same person That's right.
And they're having the sameidentity, they're having the same.
(20:09):
Like emotional crises, they're goingto recreate that same old energy
field and recreate those same physicalailments and whatever it is that
they're struggling with all over again.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I, um, this last year I have,
I don't know, there's threeor four instances this last
(20:29):
year where I wanted something.
For example, this building, I justbought this building from my dad, right?
Mm-hmm.
And I went to the bank and the firstbank I went to, she's like, she
wouldn't even pay attention to me.
She says, yeah, you're not gonna qualify.
Kick rocks.
I mean, she was kind of a jerk about it.
So as time went by, I applied for acouple other places and they said, Hey
(20:51):
Wes, you're not gonna qualify for it.
'cause nobody wants to lendmoney to this type of building.
, just the economy, just things aredifferent and they are not thrilled about
lending money to an office space building.
So.
I remember I was, I was drivingdown the street and I pulled
over and , I just prayed to God.
I said, Hey, if you wantme to have this mm-hmm.
(21:14):
You need to put the people in frontof me because I'm tired of fighting.
So the energy of me fightingfor that, the energy of me being
angry about it, I just let it go.
Three days later, , this wonderful loanofficer Casey shows up, she gets me the
building and she works for the same bank.
That denied me the first time.
(21:35):
, if you think about that, if you wantto change your reality when you go
inside and change yourself mm-hmm.
I mean, in that specificcircumstance mm-hmm.
Same bank, same building.
Mm-hmm.
Same on paper paperwork that I had.
And all of a sudden nowthey're happy to have me.
And then when, when I firststarted, . I was frustrated and angry.
(21:56):
And it changed everything.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It's, and that, it's crazy how that works.
It is crazy how that works.
And just in that one instance of being,of going from angry to that surrendering
, your whole energy field, if we thinkof it in terms of energy, it goes from
almost like a. Porcupine type energyto, yeah, like an open field energy
(22:22):
where God is like, okay, you're ready.
Like, let me, let me drop you the gifts.
Yep.
Yep.
, do you listen to Joel Osteen?
Do you like listening to him?
Uh, name sounds so familiar.
He's a pastor out of Texas.
Okay.
I like listening to himand, , do you believe in God?
I do.
Okay.
So, well, some people like the universe,so I, I don't know, like to ask, but.
(22:44):
God speaks to me throughhis program and other stuff.
People ask me all thetime, , how do you hear God?
Now sometimes if I pray to himand I ask him to heal me, I will
clearly hear him say, I will.
, it's not as fluid as when I speak toJesus or Archangel Michael, but it's
interesting if I have something going on.
(23:08):
And I turn on XM radio.
It's not like I have tolisten to the entire sermon.
It's the second I get in the car.
Mm-hmm.
The answer is right there.
Mm-hmm.
And that has given me so much clarityand I, , I don't know about you.
I, I'm 55, you look like you're22, but I think there's a
little age difference there.
(23:28):
I've searched my whole lifetrying to figure out how to heal
from the pain that haunts me.
And I would hear people say, oh,look at love and unconditional
love, and that would piss me off.
I'm a retired marine.
I don't think Marines were very,uh, we're not too open-minded.
Let's just say that.
, we weren't love and light,not open-hearted type people.
(23:49):
No, no.
We didn't walk aroundsaying, oh gosh, I love you.
Yeah.
That didn't happen, but.
I got to the point where I was sobroken, I was willing to do anything,
and I started to pay attention andlisten to people when they told me
to look inside myself for the answer.
And I found that difficult.
I didn't understand what that was.
And , when I, I find myself turning offmy cell phone, turning off the tv, stop
(24:15):
talking to, , whomever you're chattingwith on your cell phone and go and sit.
Here pretty soon I start to hear myself.
Mm-hmm.
I start to see things differentlyand take responsibility for the
energy that's in my energy fieldhas changed everything for me.
(24:35):
Mm-hmm.
Everything.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it's, it's like that sheet codeto life, but they don't teach us that.
Right.
Yeah.
I know when I first started to get intothis, and I experienced the radical
transformation within myself of goingfrom having the lifelong depression and
anxiety from as long as I could remember.
I can remember being a little girland just I, for as long as I can
(24:59):
remember, going from so sociallyanxious to, uh, having so many problems
in all of my relationships, everysingle one of my relationships, to
just doing the complete opposite.
Just of what you were saying, payingattention to what's going on inside.
Mm-hmm.
And being mindful to beginto switch the narrative.
(25:21):
Being intentional to shift theemotions that I was practicing
that day and every day.
I completely shifted to likeone of the most optimistic,
happiest, genuinely fulfilled.
Yeah.
Social butterfly can talk to anyone.
Like my relationships are thriving,friendships, partner, family, like
(25:42):
everything that you can imagine becauseI began to do like the quote unquote
dirty work of sitting with myself andworking through the shit that comes up.
Yep.
I remember I started on this journey.
I met.
TNA at the Reiki Wellness Center and shedoes life coaching and she was, I was
(26:04):
seeing her once a week and I seen heronce a week for like first three years.
, I just had a lot going on and I neededhelp and I was willing, and I, I don't
know, I guess it was maybe six orseven months in to this journey, right.
It was weird.
In about a two week timeperiod, I had tons and tons of
(26:26):
people message me on Facebook.
And a lot of these people I didn'tknow, , we got people we, we just don't
know that we're friends with, and, andthey were all saying the same thing.
You've changed something'sdifferent about you.
And I'm like, what thefuck are you talking about?
You don't even fucking know me.
I mean, that was just so bizarre.
, they were picking up the energyand stuff as I was shifting.
Mm-hmm.
And, um.
I think that was the first timeI realized something is changing
(26:52):
because I thought maybe it was.
Mm-hmm.
But you know, people outsideof myself seen it before I did.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
'cause I still carried that traumaof I'm ugly, weak, and stupid.
That's what I was toldthrough my whole childhood.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so, , that tookmany more years to heal.
That's now going away now.
(27:13):
And, um,
, it's just such a beautiful journey.
, it's, that's why the podcast is,enlightenment unknown life of a spiritual
nomad because it's a nomadic journey.
Mm-hmm.
No matter who you're friends with, nomatter who your partner is, , you're
still on that, you're still doing the deepwork in your mind and doing that stuff.
(27:36):
So I like that.
It's cool.
It reminds me of when I had first gotteninto this type of work too, and I'm
trying all the different tools and Itried a lot of shit that didn't work,
but I also tried a lot of shit that did,and I remember doing this one practice,
which I later learned was an NLP practice.
But essentially you go in, you feelthe stagnant energy in your body, you
(27:58):
soften into it, and you kind of let the.
First memory that comes through ofwhat is like trapped in that emotional,
, the stagnant energy in your body.
You let the memory come throughand then you feel through the
emotions, you let them release.
And I had been practicing that and Ihad quite a lot of things coming up.
(28:18):
And the next day I, I didthat for maybe two hours.
One evening, the next dayI go into my serving job.
I was waitressing at the time.
And I couldn't tell you how manypeople were coming up to me being
like, Sabrina, you're glowing.
And I'm like, oh, thanks.
And they're like, did you cut your hair?
(28:39):
Are you like mm-hmm.
Doing something?
Did you tan?
Like, what's going on?
And I'm, I'm like thinking, I'msaying, oh, I didn't do anything, but
I'm thinking in my head, it was thatenergy practice that I did last night.
Yep.
The energy clearings and I'm, now, I justcall it the, like, um, getting like your.
The glow up.
I call it The glow up.
The glow up.
(28:59):
I like that when you do the deepenergy work, because it's not just
like people can feel the shift.
Mm-hmm.
Like they can't deny it.
Yeah.
Well.
I'm sure you experience it, you, you'llgo into some places your vibration is
really, , some days it, I don't feellike my vibe is as high as others.
Mm-hmm.
But you'll walk into a restaurantand everybody stops and looks
(29:19):
at you and you're walking downthe street and everybody's kind
of looking, I'm like, oh, hi.
Mm-hmm.
, it's, it is, , they see that energy.
They, they're picking up on that and
it, it's, it's magnetizing.
Yeah.
It, and.
Again, I just find it shocking thatit's not on the six o'clock news.
How's that not possible?
(29:39):
That's, that's what I'm saying is that'swhen I started to post things online
about this and start the YouTube channel.
And I started the Instagram because I waslike, more people need to know about this.
Mm-hmm.
And, and every single area of life now.
I love helping high performers and I loveworking with established entrepreneurs
and all those types of people.
(29:59):
But in every area of your life,you can apply these same principles
and create so much transformation.
Mm-hmm.
And completely change everything.
Absolutely.
Now you, you have a podcast.
Yes, Shattering Reality Podcast.
Shattering Reality Podcast.
Now, is that the YouTube page aswell, or is those two separate things?
(30:23):
What is that?
No, so I have my YouTube and myInstagram For Better You by Sabrina,
and that is all of for like theLaw of Attraction, entrepreneurial.
Type talk better you by Sabrina?
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
And then I had so many esoteric topicsthat were just in my heart that I wanted
(30:44):
to talk about so many crazy experiencesthat I had so many in insane, like
movie-like stories that I needed to share.
And I was like, thisdoesn't fit my better you.
Yeah.
And so I was one night I, um.
I was sitting in my apartmentand it just came to me.
I'm like, I need tohave a separate podcast.
(31:05):
Mm-hmm.
Just for all of my esoterictopics to have a space.
And so that is myShattering Reality podcast.
Nice.
I like it.
Well, I don't know, you probablyhaven't listened to my podcast 'cause
we just really just met, I mean,today's the first time we've ever
really sat and had a conversation.
Yes, we did 20 minutes ago.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
So I like doing it that way becausethat way it makes it more authentic
(31:26):
when we're asking questions.
Mm-hmm.
And , my spiritual awakeningstarted in this horrible haunted
house and this paranormalexperience that lasted nine months.
So the first two seasons of my podcast isthat, but we wanted the show to be about
how life happens for you and not to you.
Mm-hmm.
And I remember at one point.
Going through the hauntedhouse and, uh, a healer name.
(31:48):
Did you ever know Sandra Grace Brooks?
I don't think so.
Yeah, she passed away a couple years ago.
Man, she always had a smile onher face, laughed all the time.
I love, I love Sandra Grace andso she was the first healer I ever
met, and I didn't know anythingabout Reiki or any of that stuff.
I wasn't gonna talk back then.
I wasn't gonna talkabout that fucking shit.
(32:09):
I can tell you that right now.
That's no.
Mm-hmm.
And I remember standing in my yardafter she left, and I remember
thinking to myself, because Iwas so alone, so broken, and
, at that point in my life, justfighting to stay alive with
this paranormal stuff going on.
Mm-hmm.
That when I got through what Iwas gonna tell the world about it.
(32:30):
And that's kind of where the podcast istoo, because there's people out there
that need to hear this stuff is real.
Mm-hmm.
That you're not alone, that you are loved,that you're beautiful, that you're gifted,
and you know there's a safe space for you.
Mm-hmm.
So I've enjoyed that.
It's been fun.
Absolutely.
And I know I've had my own fairshare of paranormal experiences.
(32:51):
Nice.
So my favorite question,do you see dead people?
I. Turn it off, I've, I've playedaround with going into different
psychics and I have friends whoare very psychically in tuned.
Mm-hmm.
I know some people don't resonatewith the word psychic, but
people who are very in tuned and.
(33:11):
Every single, extremely giftedperson I've came across has said,
you have every single like giftthat you could even think of.
Like it's come ancestrally, it's come,it's come through your bloodline.
It's come through past lives.
They're like, you have everything.
They're like, but it's upto you to open them or not.
They're like, you've, you'velike dabbled in some, but.
And I'm just sitting there like, I knowI've been, I saw spirits all the time
(33:32):
when I was a kid, but I think I got to thepoint when I was like 10 or 11 where I was
like, I was so terrified because I grewup on horror films and paranormal movies.
Sure.
Which of course, yeah.
Like everybody.
Yeah.
Infiltrate all of these.
Horrid images, and honestly, I thinkit's just poison to your consciousness.
And I got so terrified at those ages.
(33:55):
I just remember I continued.
Now that I'm looking back, I'm like.
I was like energeticallyshutting them out.
But I continued to like put myhands up and being like, you're
not allowed to look at me.
I don't wanna see you.
I don't wanna hear you.
I don't want you to touch me.
I don't want you to moveanything in the house.
I don't want you to, I don'twanna hear footsteps, nothing.
Mm-hmm.
And every single time I heard aninkling or saw an inkling, I would
(34:17):
close my eyes and I would say, no.
And I put all those walls up andI have yet to open them back up.
Yeah.
I think I seen one ghost when I was a kid.
I had no gifts, no intuition, no nothing.
And then everything turned on at once.
That's ha I, I have a bestfriend who that's happened to.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that was, uh, that was maddening.
I think that was 2019.
(34:40):
So I just got comfortablebeing in my skin from that.
Maybe a year ago.
Wow.
'cause you're sitting here and I havedragons that I work with and I see
dead people and do all these thingsand , I can connect with a client
in Australia and she can tell me,oh, you're touching my left elbow.
And it's just like all thesemagical, beautiful things.
(35:03):
Mm-hmm.
And.
Then I have to go to work, , I gottadrive up the street in traffic.
Mm-hmm.
You know, that's, it tookme a while to get here.
So, um, I am glad I'm alittle bit more grounded.
I don't like to be grounded.
Mm-hmm.
And, um, but yeah, it's been interesting.
It's definitely interesting blending.
(35:26):
When you dip into that and you'reso in these spiritual realms and
you're understanding that there'sso much more to meet the eye.
It is, it's, it's work, it'spractice to really ground the energy
out while working in the energyfields and working in the quantum.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
(35:46):
It's a, it's a lot.
It is, it is definitely a lot.
And, uh, have you, do you know Margaret.
I don't think so.
Uh, I have to introduce you to her.
Uh, Margaret Bryant,she's in town right now.
She is, , a mentor.
She's a good friend of mine, and I don'tunderstand 99% of the stuff she talks
about in the realms that she operatesin, , is, is really, really out there.
(36:09):
But she's super gifted andshe's a wonderful lady.
So, , if you had, let me take a step back.
What is one thing you could tell thelisteners they could do to change
their reality, change their life?
What would that be?
(36:30):
I would say to take a note on your,
what you are experiencing right now.
Whatever you are experiencing rightnow is a reflection of your current
belief systems in your current state.
So if you can.
Write down on a piece of paperwhat you are experiencing right
now and bring that back to, okay,if I'm experiencing all of this
(36:57):
turmoil in my relationships, mm-hmm.
If I'm experiencing all of this strugglein my finances, in my career, what belief
systems, what thought patterns, go backto that and begin to trace that back.
And then just on a separatepiece of paper, I call this
mapping out your new identity.
On a separate piece of paper, write downwhat you would ideally like to live.
(37:20):
No, no.
Thinking logically here, wherewould you ideally like to live?
What would you ideally like to have?
Or hobbies?
What would you ideally like tomake in money, relationships?
Write that out.
And then write what belief systems andthought patterns and emotional patterns.
You would have to live by for this.
(37:40):
And then just start practicing.
Just start practicing the newidentity, and I call it PRR.
Pause, regulate rewire.
When you catch yourself in old tendencies,you wanna pause, you wanna regulate
your nervous system, regulate your.
Whatever emotions, anxiety, frustrationmight have been triggered, regulate that.
I'll get yourself to a groundedstate and then rewire to the new,
(38:03):
and that's such a simple way.
When you make those tweaks, everysingle step that you make towards
that new life, towards that newidentity, towards that new energy,
you are shifting the trajectory ofwhat you're putting your awareness on.
You're shifting, like you're doing miniquantum leaps every single time you make
a new decision and you decide to PRR end.
(38:25):
Put your attention onwhat you wanna focus on.
Sure.
Now you do one-on-one coaching, right?
I do.
I have one-on-one coaching, I havegroup program, I have a membership.
Nice.
So if somebody wanted tolearn how to do this mm-hmm.
They could call you?
Absolutely.
And how would they connectwith you to change your life?
(38:47):
The quickest way to connectwith me is on Instagram.
Better you by Sabrina.
Just send me a dm. Alright.
And I'll get back to you.
And you can check out my YouTube videos.
Better you by Sabrina as well.
That would give you, if you wanna learnmore for free and get more content on
that, you can check me out there too.
Nice.
So how many, how long have youbeen doing the videos on YouTube?
(39:10):
Hmm.
I wanna say I started 2019 or 2020.
Oh wow.
You've been doing that a while.
But I didn't post for the first, like.
I wasn't postingconsistently for a minute.
Mm-hmm.
But yes, I've been on it for, 'causeit was, I wanna say it was 2019 or
2020 when I fully made the switch.
(39:31):
Wow.
That's cool.
It's interesting how technology ischanging the world for, in a good way.
Absolutely.
, it's bringing, God to your home.
It's bringing the.
The choice for somebody tochoose themselves may be
maybe for the first time ever.
Mm-hmm.
(39:51):
I like that.
I'm putting together a program rightnow to help people with cancer heal.
Mm. , so I'm looking forward tothat coming out here probably
in the next 30 to 60 days.
So we'll see.
It'll be fun.
That's beautiful.
That's awesome.
Beautiful.
Thank you for coming on the show.
This has been fun.
And, , this was a nice surprise.
(40:12):
See, I didn't know anything about you, soeverything was just a nice surprise today.
So thanks.
Thank you so much.
I could talk about this topicfor ages, and I feel like we
could have so many conversations.
Yeah, it'd be fun.
Well, you're clearly intelligent.
You clearly know what's going on.
You're, you're super in tune and, . Ithink it's fun that you see dead people.
(40:34):
I don't, but it's okay.
Yeah, I see 'em all the time,so, well, thanks everybody.
Thanks for tuning in and , hit upSabrina and if you wanna change your
life, she has a fantastic program.
She's got great energy and I thinkyou're gonna like what you connect with.
See you next time.
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UConn basketball star Azzi Fudd brings her championship swag to iHeart Women’s Sports with Fudd Around and Find Out, a weekly podcast that takes fans along for the ride as Azzi spends her final year of college trying to reclaim the National Championship and prepare to be a first round WNBA draft pick. Ever wonder what it’s like to be a world-class athlete in the public spotlight while still managing schoolwork, friendships and family time? It’s time to Fudd Around and Find Out!