Running Back Rankings & Tiers (Ep. 521)

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Everyone. Welcome into the Fantasy Bros. Football Podcast. I'm Bobby
Silvestre and Tags his back. Yates is here as well.
We have a fun episode today. Tags. What's going on? Man? Nothing? Man,
I'm happy to be back. It's it's weird when you
go from talking like every day with you guys and
like to to trying to get away from football for
an entire week. But I did my best stand. Uh,
but I will say I'm I'm happy to be back.

(00:36):
I am happy that NFL season is upon us. We're
finally in August. I mean, we're basically a month away
from the start of the NFL season. So I'm psych man.
Thanks for having back, Yates. What's up, dude? Not much, man,
I'm happy to have Tags back. Tags and I like
high fived each other on the way out the door
on vacation. Right. So I was gone two weeks ago.
Tags was gone last week, so we haven't talked on
the podcast for two weeks. So I'm excited. The gang's

(00:57):
back together. We're ready to dive into this. I have
a problem at this though. Okay, because Yates, you and
I are cool. We're rocking the backwards hat. Tags never
wears a backwards hat. Tags change it, man, I need
to explain a backstory here is that when I go
to buy a hat, I go into a store and
I legitimately try on like thirty different hats because it
has to fit right, it has to look right and
totally see that man. And so here's the thing in

(01:19):
forward hats are different than backwards hats. Like if I
wanted a backwards hat, I would get one of the bigger,
like like baseball type hats, you know, like almost like
you know that people wear the flat brim ones. Those
are the ones you wear backwards. The ones you wear
forward are golf hats. You cannot wear a golf hat backward.
It just looks dumb like it just it doesn't contour
to the front of your head at all. It just
it's all bad. I think you don't want to do

(01:40):
it because it shows more of your face. Yates and
I are trying to show more of our face because
that's what the people on YouTube. But YouTube dot com
slash fantasy brows want to see tags. They want to
see more of your face too, Man, so many comments.
If you guys come at me and tell me you
need to see more of my face, then I'll come
with a backwards hat. All right, guys, before we get
into the show, first of all, let me tell you
what we're gonna be talking about. We're gonna be talking

(02:01):
about running backs the entire show. It's a running back
rankings and tiers. So we're gonna walk through four different
groupings of running backs, give some of our favorites, give
some of our least favorites. All three of us are
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knows everybody that you know listen to the podcast I
talk too much. Tags is about to go on a
ten minute monologue at least the Bears aren't playing horrible
football right now, because that would take up like a
third of the show. Stop. I remember when the Bears
lost a time, I think it was Sunday Night Football
and Tags just lost it. And the thing is like
a lot of people listening would be like, oh, man,

(03:50):
that does not sound like something I would enjoy listening to.
Anytime we can get feisty tags, it is good. Hopefully
we can get some fisty tags day. Yes, you think
we can pull that out of him? Oh, let's try it.
You know what, Hunt? Real quick? You know what? I
was on Pat fitz Morris's podcast yesterday, and you know
what he brought up in it, like legitimately almost gave
me a nightmare, like a nightmare while I was a
weak David Montgomery Jay Cutler that the Bears signed Isaiah Crowell,

(04:16):
I said it would be fitting, honestly though with basically
you know, Jimmy Graham, I mean just out of just
put them both there? Why not? Oho? Man, Yeah, that
would be bad. I remember last year whenever one was it,
last year everyone was drafting Isaiah Crowell or the year
before they were drafting every year. I wasn't one of them.
Yeah regardless, Yeah, I did not like that. There's a
tweet yesterday that came out that Delaney Walker, at age
thirty five has been training for the NFL season, and

(04:38):
I put out on Twitter it was like, Ryan Pace,
don't you freaking But I did cut a few tight
ends recently. So yeah, all right, I guess we're going
to start out in the workhorse tier. Okay, typically I'm
the workhorse here actually has like three tiers within it, right,
I would say Christian McCaffrey and maybe say kwan Er
In that top tier, McCaffrey might be an all by himself.
And then you've got another tier with Ezekiel Elliott, Alvin Kamara,

(05:03):
maybe Clyde Edwards, Hilaire Derrick, Henry, Joe Mixon. And then
after that there's a bunch of guys Kenny Drake, Miles Sanders,
Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs. So we're going to RB one
through fifteen. This is the workhorse group and tags, I
want you to give me one name that you like
from this group compared to his ADP. Obviously like Christian McCaffrey,
but he's going first. Overall, who's going like twelfth? And

(05:25):
you have up at eight or something along those lines. Yeah,
I'm going Clyde Edwards Hillaire here, I don't. I mean,
the thing is is, once you go to our website
and you actually see the Expert Consensus rakings, we only
use it for people that have actually updated their rankings
as we've gone on. So basically it's a ranking update.
And Clyde Edwards Hilaire is the RB eleven right now.
I am willing to take him as the RB seven,
and honestly, if you wanted to take him as the

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RB six, I'd have no issue with that, maybe even
RB five if you wanted to take him over Dalvin Cook.
I mean, we're talking about Dalvin Cook like he's a
can't miss player, but let's be real about it. The
first two years of his career he really wasn't on
the field. He might be getting a big contract extension.
We don't know what's happening there. There's a lot of
a shake up there, so to find Digs is gone. Obviously,
that defense is going through some changes. They may not
be able to run the ball as much. I could

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make an argument for Clyde Edwards Hilaire to go all
the way up at number five overall. Am I going
to take him there? Probably not? But RB seven is
where I have him right now, and I feel pretty
dang confident about that. There's really nothing not to like.
There's no competition for him on the roster. DeAndre Washington
is probably his backup. You know, you're playing for Andy
Reid where Andy Reid continually churns out fantasy relevant running back.
Clyde Edwards Hilaire was my number one running back in

(06:29):
this class. He's a true three down back. Patrick Mahomes
wanted him like he's texting m during the draftsing, I
want you on my team, and it's like, okay, Chiefs
say we're gonna go get him. Then this guy is
going to be on the field. He's fantastic and he's
going to see a lot of six seven man fronts
with the speed they have on the field. So Clyde
Edwards Hilaire, you know, don't worry about rookie running backs
because I do an article that highlights running backs that

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have been drafted in the first round over the last
eight years. They average over two hundred and fifty touches
per season. The only running back that actually didn't get
over I think it was one hundred and ninety eight touches.
Was where Odd Penny who plays for Pete Carroll, and
well we know how pe care operates, so to deal
with the broken hand, he gained to way too much weight.
I mean, there's a couple of things that can really
tank a running back for sure, and that's the thing.

(07:11):
Barring injury, Clydewards Hilaire is gonna finish his a top
ten running back hands down. And I think he has
a chance to be a top three running back. So
I had him at number five tags, but I've gone
ahead and moved him down to number eight. And the
reason why I went back and I watched those four
games where Deandrew Washington was running wild on the NFL.
Now that this is a pretty dang good running back.
Now neither of them know the playbook because they're both
coming into it no preseason games, and so Clyde Edwards

(07:33):
Hilaire is definitely the superior talent. I just don't think
this is gonna be the you know, seventy five twenty
five split that it was when Kareem Hunt took over
and they had nobody else. I think it's going to
be closer to sixty five, thirty five or seventy thirty.
And so I've moved Nixon ahead of him, Dalvin Cook
ahead of him, and I'm teetering between Derrek Henry and
Clyde Edwards Hilaire. Yeah, it's where have you settled on

(07:53):
Clyde Edwards Hilaire. Yeah, I'm at RB seven And it's
kind of for the same reasons that you said, Bobby,
where you're looking at Clyde Eddor Hilaire first from just
a body composition perspective, where he's five eight two oh seven.
But this is not a guy that's going to receive
the type of workload on the ground that dlphin Cook
is now To offset that, he's going to see an
immense amount of work through the air, right, He's going

(08:14):
to be a huge factor in the receiving game. So
I think I talked about this on a podcast last week,
and all of them are blurring together at this point,
so I can't remember which one, but I said, kind
of expect the Alvin Kamara workload for Clyde Edwards Hillayer,
that's kind of what you need to be, you know,
expecting and kind of projecting here for Clyde Eddor to Hilaire.
But with that in mind, I haven't met RB seven.
I can totally see how he can get to RB five,

(08:37):
RB four, RB three with touchdown production. So I totally
get it. And if there's an offense that you want
to bet on for touchdown production, it's this one. I
agree with that. Yeh, your term buddy, who you like?
There's a guy that I am absolutely rising on. I
had him around like RB fifteen for the majority of
the off season, and that was simply just due to
the fact that I didn't know or I was projecting

(08:59):
that they were going to be ringing in another running
back in Philadelphia. Guys, it's Miles Sanders. I now have
Miles Sanders up at RB eight after comments recently that
the running backs coach Do Staley saying that there's not
going to be a limit on his touches. They're going
to be giving him the majority of the workload. Now
that doesn't mean that he's getting one hundred percent of
the carries. You know, very few running backs in the

(09:19):
NFL get one hundred percent of the carries, if any. So,
but what we're talking about here is I still expect
Corey Clement to be somewhat involved, Boston Scott as a
pass catcher will still be involved, but Miles Sanders is
going to be the main guy in a dynamic offense,
and with his skill set and what he showed on
the field last year, there's no reason why we shouldn't

(09:39):
be drafting Miles Sanders as a top ten running back.
I agree with that. Tags what do you think then? Yeah,
I've been moving Miles Sanders up my board, inching him
further and further up. But then you get to a
point where you're like, okay, am I going to put
him over guys like like Aaron Jones And obviously Yates
has already done that. And can we talk about this
for a second, guys, because it's one of those questions
that I when I was doing the Boom Bust and
everything in between the article that have been going up

(10:00):
this week, I was looking at Aaron Jones and I said,
why can't he be Alvin Kamara in terms of, like,
in terms of his efficiency everyone? Jones? Yeah, yeah, because
like we drafted Alvin kamaras the top three running back
without hesitation, right, top four, very worse, and we know
that he doesn't get the touches that some of the
elite running backs do, like Ezekiel elia At, Saquon Barkley,

(10:21):
and Christian McCaffrey. But he's always extremely efficient. And in
the article I did based on how many Fantasy points
should a player of scored, which running backs were better
than expected over the last two years, Aaron Jones has scored.
He was number four on the list both years in
terms of Fantasy points over what he was expected to do,
so he's constantly efficient. The Packers obviously lost Devin Funcious.
They don't have any other pass catchers outside of Davante Adams. Essentially,

(10:43):
Jays Sternberger was supposed to take a step forward, but
now he's missing camp because of COVID. There's a lot
of question marks around this team. So why I go
back to it. Why can't Aaron Jones be an Alvin
Kamara type running back? And that's why I'm saying, I
don't know if I can move a Miles Sanders over
Aaron Jones. I don't know, man, I like both of them.
I think Aaron Jones is going way undervalued. I almost
put him on here RB thirteen. I don't get it.

(11:07):
I mean he didn't get many touches last year. He
was still the RB two guys. I don't think he
can be Alvin Kamara though, because he's not going to
get anywhere near that amount of receptions. I agree that
he can do it with the workload that he's getting.
Not quite Alvin Kamara, but you know, forty nine receptions,
Alvin Kamara averages eighty five. I think one eighty one

(11:27):
all three years. That's what it, right, Yeah, right, yeah, exactly.
That's why. That's why I knew that off the top
of my head. No, I'm I'm with you, Bobby. That's
what I was gonna say is that I think the
difference between Aaron Jones and Alvin Kamara as far as
an efficiency standpoint, I think they're very talented, both running backs,
but as far as what they can do on the field,
Aaron Jones isn't going to see anywhere near the amount
of work through the air. Yeah. It's funny, man about

(11:49):
Miles Sanders, because I had him all the way down
at RB seventeen because I was like, dude, they're signing
DeVonta Freeman like it's Doug Peterson. But everything is indicating
that they're going to use him like the workhorse he
deserves to be. And if you're talking about most talented
running backs in football, I think Sanders is in the
top five guys. If you're talking about best offensive widen football,
the Eagles are in the top five, even though they
had the injury. I think Miles Sanders has a chance

(12:11):
to be a league winner this year. I'm gonna have
some shares. But tags are you drafting Miles seniors over
Kenyan Drake? No, No, Kenyan Drake. I have Kenyan Drake.
I go back and forth between him and Joe Mixon. Interesting, okay,
because I couldn't decide between Joe Mixon and Kenyan Drake. Here,
Kenyan Drake's my guy because I like Joe Mixon. But
he's being drafted as the RB seven. I'm taking him
at RB five. Kenyan Drake, he's being drafted as the

(12:33):
RB eleven. I'm taking him at RB eight. Yeah. That's
the crazy part. And I saw the ECR. I was
confused on this. I really didn't understand what was happening
because Kenyan Drake was a guy that was moving up
and then all of a sudden, you're seeing guys like
Josh Jacobs and Miles Sanders and Edwards Hilaire move up
and all of a sudden, Kenyan Drake is the number
thirteen running back and expert consensus right now, that's too far.

(12:54):
You've gone too far in the wrong direction again. I
released article today. It's boom, bust and everything in between
on the running backs and Kenyan Drake. Once he came
to the Cardinals, he essentially belongs in that tier with
Derrick Henry and those guys up there. If you look
at that sample. Now, granted, he's gonna have some touchdown
regression because he did score more than he was probably
supposed to, but Kenyan Drake has been another guy that's

(13:14):
been over efficient all throughout his career. It's just he's
now got a bigger opportunity. Knowing that the Cardinals got
rid of David Johnson, it clearly shows that they're comfortable
with Kenyon Drake. He's in a one year deal, you know,
so he's playing for another contract. He has under five
hundred career carries. There's a lot of reasons to like
Kenyan Drake so much. And yeah, he's someone I have
up on my draft part. I have him at number

(13:35):
nine and again it's number eight or number nine. Him
and Mixon are going back and forth because there are
question marks about Mixon in his lack of usage in
the passing game. I mean, Mixon is a superior pass
catcher to Kenyan Drake. He's a superior runner too, but
he just depends on how the Bengals are going to
use him. Oh, if we were drafting on pure talent
Joe Mixon, would he be like the RB two number three?

(13:55):
I think, say Quon Christian McCaffrey, Joe Mixon and then
a huge gap. Yeah. I mean I think that Mixon
is definitely in the top three twos. He's so good
and that. But that's the thing as a fantasy analyst,
you can't just point out when a player is good
at football. I understand there's a lot of players. These
are all great players in football, right, but you're just
looking for the opportunity in the offense that they play
in the offensive line they play behind, and that's those

(14:16):
are things that factor into Joe Mixon because again, if
we're drafting on talent, I'd take him probably at number
three overall. He's very, very, very talented. And it's the
same thing with Josh Jacobs right, which is a good
transition because he's the running back I don't like in
the top fifteen running backs. At his current cost, he's
the RB nine right now, and expert consensus, I don't
see anything that changed from last year with him. All

(14:38):
I see is that this offense now has another quarterback
in the roster. They made shift from Derek Carr if
they want to. They have more pass catchers in and
Lynn Bowden. They have Henry Ruggs, you know, Brian Edwards.
They drafted all these guys in the top three rounds.
So how does this add up to saying, Oh, we're
gonna We're definitely gonna get Josh Jacobs. Do you mean
like three or four targets more like on the season,

(14:58):
because I don't see a substantial increa for him, so
to move him up there on a bad football team
that's gonna had limited scoring opportunities. I love Josh Jacobs
the player, but if you're saying that his situation is great,
I think you're all. He's a really good football player, man,
and last year he did lose ten pounds during the season.
They start to use him a lot more after that.
I'm not going to have many shares, just because I'm

(15:19):
more excited about the Miles Sanders and Kenyan Drakes and
Clyde Edwards Selaires of the world. But I don't think
his ADP's too bad. I'm surprised you didn't pick Nick
chob Man. So for me, Chub is he's so dang good,
and I feel like that's I think Jacob's is better
than chob Maybe I don't think so well, I'm not yet, yeah,

(15:39):
but Chub is a very talented running back, but I
actually do believe I've I've started to like Chubb is
like teetering for me on that RB ten range, like
he's right there, because I feel like he's he's one
of he is one of the most talented one two
down backs in the in the game. But the lack
of you know, passes that he's going to get through
the air, like he's just not gonna get a whole
lot of targets. So that's why I worry about him.
But the same thing with Jacobs. But I think that

(16:01):
you know, Nick Chub's gonna be playing behind a better
offensive line for an offense that I'm anticipating them running
the ball a ton like if you look at Stefanski
last year with Minnesota, those running backs averaged I think
it was over thirty touches per game. So there's plenty
to go around between him and Kareem Hunt. And again,
Chubb's the guy that's going to be their long term
So with Kareem Hunt, that doesn't make you think that

(16:22):
they're going to be more likely to just give Hunt
a ton of touches that they can save Chubb a
little bit, not really, because he's on his rookie deal.
Like you have to use a running back up and
you know it's it's no guarantee he's there on a
second contract. Running backs they're using abuse and it's really
a bad system right now for them, like in terms
of the CBA. But yeah, Nick Chubb, I like him.
I just think he's a safer play than Josh Jacobs

(16:43):
is all that's fair. I just have a hard time
draft in either of these guys because, like, how many
receptions are they really gonna get. When Kareem Hunt was
out last year, Nick Chubb had twenty seven targets was
it twenty seven targets in ten games? That's ridiculous. Yeah,
But I mean that was also a different coaching staff,
So I don't want to take too much d but sure,
but I mean they got Kareem Hunt. What are they
gonna do? Just not pass it to Kreem Hunt so

(17:03):
they can pass it in Nick Chubb? No, and Josh
Jacob same thing. Twenty receptions last year in thirteen games.
That's not gonna cut it for an arm And they
resigned Jalen Richard and then they drafted Lynn Boden. So
I just don't know where they come from. That's my issue,
right right, yeah's who's your guy? Because I'm obviously picking
Nick Chump. I'm gonna have zero shares of Nick Chubb
ADP eight. I've got him a running back fourteen? Oh wow,

(17:24):
you have him done in fourteen? Um? No, I mean
I get it. I get it. For someone to be
drafted within the top ten at the running back position,
they need to be involved, you know, somewhat in the
receiving game, right, and I use somewhat that's a very
loose term. But like with Joe Mixon, he saw forty
five targets last year, Like that's enough for him to
be with it, Like drafted within this top ten. If

(17:46):
we are projecting that this offense is going to be
better and he's going to have more than five rushing touchdowns,
which I am so at that point, Joe Mixon's up
at my RB six. Josh Jacobs is gonna get just
as much work on the ground he has just as
you know good have a chance to score as any
touchdowns because we've seen it. He was great on the
ground last year. But he's not going to be as
involved in the passing game, like he's not going to

(18:06):
even reach forty five targets, like there's no way. So
just with all that combined, you need to have this
player and that's why Josh Jacobs is my guy. As
far as this guy that I don't like comparative to
ecr within the top you know, one to fifteen running
backs because I don't where I have to draft him
and where I think his ceiling is like or his

(18:27):
floor excuse me with you know, his receiving ability, it's
not there. It doesn't match up, So there's going to
be a disparity. There are some other guys that I
like ahead of him, And it's the same kind of
argument with Nick Chubb. If you draft a guy within
the top ten and he's going at RB eight right now.
Like you said, Bobby, he needs to be involved in
the receiving game to give him a safe floor. Otherwise
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thirty tags your first again, who do you like? Who
do I like? I mean, I like Jonathan Taylor a lot.
And I've already talked about rookie running backs, Like, for
whatever reason, there's a conception out there that you can't
draft rookie running backs you can't feel confident with them.

(20:12):
I'll take the discount all day long. You're getting hi
an RB twenty two right now. Have you seen the
pictures of Jonathan Taylor? Like, the dude is built like
a linebacker and he's playing behind one of the best
offensive lines in football. Doesn't have a quarterback who's gonna
steal any goal line touches, you know what I mean?
Like nihem Hind is the guy that people are excited
about for whatever reason, and he's someone that Frank Wright
didn't want to use even when they were short on

(20:34):
running backs last year. So I don't think that's gonna happen.
He is similar to Nick Chubb and the fact that
he's not going to be receiving a whole lot of targets.
I would say the cap on him is maybe, you know,
in that thirty five target range, and that's okay. Again
when you get down to this RB twenty two range.
This is a Nick Chubb type running back. These guys
are very similar in first and second down and the
fact that they get downhill, they're gonna get what's blocked
and then some because they're gonna break some tackles. Jonathan

(20:56):
Taylor proved that he was a workhorse at Wisconsin. People
want to talk about Marlon being the starter when the
year begins. I don't buy that because Jonathan Taylor was
a guy coming into the NFL draft that people talked
about as a guy that has so many miles on
this frame. Because Wisconsin used him so much that you know.
Is he a one contract player? Is what people were
saying about him. So you don't sign a player like

(21:17):
that early in the second round if you're going to
keep him on the bench for a year or mix
him in with a time share with Marlon Mack, who's
been highly inefficient as the cold starting running back. So
Jonathan Taylor is the RB twenty two. I definitely dig
the value there because the upside is the upside for
him being a top twelve running back is certainly there.
I think this is the one player I have the
most trouble ranking because he's got this incredible offensive line.

(21:39):
He's one of the best running back prospects we've seen
in a decade in my opinion, But Marlon max there
and I have no idea how they're going to use him.
Could he be a league winner? Yeah? Definitely. Could he
just you know, not start until Week five and everyone
is kicking themselves for draft him in the third or
fourth round. Yeah, I don't know what to do with him.
I don't have many shares and I might really regretting Yates,

(22:00):
What do you think I am rising on Jonathan Taylor
because I do think like I get what you're saying, Bobby,
with Marlon Max's presence there in Nikeem Hines, right, we
have to They've they've been talking up Nikeem Hines, and
so I don't think he's gonna get much work on
the ground. I think he's going to be more of
that pass catching compliment because you look at Marlon Mack
and Jonathan Taylor, neither of them are phenomenal pass catchers.
So you need that presence out of the backfield, especially

(22:23):
for you know quarterback who is as immobile as Philip
Rivers at this point of his career, So you need
that quick checkdown. I think Nikeem Hines is going to
be fine from a receiving perspective, but there is more
than enough work on the ground in this offense for
both of these running backs. And when I say that,
I have Jonathan Taylor for two hundred and fifty rush attempts, guys,

(22:43):
Marlin Mac, I have Marlin Mack for one hundred and forty,
Like there is enough because Philip Rivers isn't going to
take many rushing attempts. I have him down for nineteen
on the season in nineteen rushing yards, two hundred and
fifty rushes. Yeah, dude, and there's more more than and
I still have enough for nineteen hinds with fifty six
rush attempts. So like there, we need to talk about

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this offense that is going to be able to run
the ball efficiently, especially behind that offensive line. They're going
to lean on their strengths. They're gonna I don't think
they want to put the ball as much in Philip
Rivers's hands at this point of his career, especially after
what we saw last year. Now, he's still gonna have
enough passing volume to support one or two receiving options.
But this is going to be a team that has
built through the run game, and that's Jonathan Taylor. So

(23:26):
I have Jonathan Taylor two hundred fifty rush attempts, eleven
hundred and fifty rushing yards. So this guy is going
to be phenomenal. I have him all the way up
at RB fourteen. Guys, I'm rising on him pretty quickly. Dang, okay,
yeah you do. You have him very high, and I'm
looking at the most accurate experts last year in terms
of running back rankings. Pat Fitzmorris number two has him
at RB fifteen, substantially higher from the rest of the pack.

(23:47):
Robert Waziak from the Fantasy Footballers RB sixteen, that's pretty high, guys. Yeah,
I'm saying I think it's very difficult for him to
get into the top twelve, right, Like, if all these
guys stay healthy, rights, and that's a big if this year, right,
But if all those guys stay healthy, they're going to
see more receiving work than Jonathan Taylor. Easy. I only
have him down for twenty seven targets on the season,
but at this point, there's no with as much work

(24:10):
as he's going to receive, there's no reason why he
can't have a Josh Jacob's type season from last year. Tags.
They just can't put him over the safe guys like
Melvin Gordon, Levion Bell, James Connor, Leonard Fournette. Like we
know all these guys are getting the vast majority of
the touches. No, no, And I don't think you have
to go that far to say you're gonna take him
over Leonard Fournette or anything like that. But I have
him right now at RB seventeen. Yeah, Leonard Fournette's RB

(24:34):
seventeen and ECR Gordon's eighteen, Connor's nineteen, Bell's twenty. I'm seeing, Yeah,
well Fournette. There's question marks around Fournette. Okay, So I actually,
this is a tidbit I came across yesterday when I
was researching some stuff. Is that, did you know Jake
Gruden has never had a running back finished higher than
RB thirteen. Obviously, Fournette's been highly inefficient behind that offensive line.

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The team is going to be in negative game scripts
quite a bit. That defense is horrendous. I think a
lot of people are projecting for the number one overall
pick next year. And to know that, you know that
he brought in Chris Thompson with him, it's going to
steal a lot of that passing down work. And that's
where that's where Fournette really got his value from last year,
because it really wasn't on the ground, even though he
did get tons of work, and it wasn't the three
touchdowns and three hundred and forty touches, right, And So

(25:17):
to be clear, I have Johnthan Taylor one spot behind
Leonard Fournette my rankings. I have Fournette at sixteen. I
have Taylor at seventeen, So they're right there because I
think Fournette's the safer pick in terms of like guaranteed volume,
but I think the upside is actually higher with someone
like Jonathan Taylor. I think the upside's higher with someone
like James Connor. Who are you taking Jonathan Taylor, David
Montgomery Yates. I literally have them at RB fourteen at

(25:39):
RB fifteen, separated by half a point my projection models.
So literally, I'll take whichever. I mean, I'd love to
have both. I think I can get both in drafts
right now with their current adpiece, I can get both
of them. I at this point, I'm fine with either.
I'll take whichever one falls lower. I think the correct
answer is where he mosted. I don't think so. All right,

(26:01):
let's see here, I'm going with Todd Gurley. Guys, I
just posted a tweet as we're recording this podcast. I
just realized that Todd Gurley is going in the same
round of drafts as Devin Singletary. Who's my opposite guy here,
the guy that I don't want in this range. I mean,
Devin Singletary is not a starter with question marks. He's
the slowest starting running back in the NFL, one of

(26:23):
the lightest starting running backs in the NFL. One of
the worst pass catching running backs that's starting in the NFL.
And then they go out and they get Zach Moss
And I went back and I watched his tape. Tags.
You were right, man, I was wrong. This guy is good.
He's by far the best running back in the room.
He's going to steal the job from Devin Singletary. Like
if we're talking about you know, JK. Dobbins might steal

(26:43):
it from mark Ingram, Zach Moss is more likely to
steal it from Singletary. In my mind, there's no chance
I'm taking Singletary anywhere near Todd Gurley, who again last
season was a solid running back even though they cut
down his passing game work. That's not gonna happen in
Atlanta man DeVonta Freeman, as you talked about, Tags, had
sixty targets last year. Todd Gurley is getting at least
that he's a very good pass catcher there. He's on

(27:05):
a one year contract. They're going to run him into
the ground. And how many games has he missed since
he came him too the NFL? Is he injury prone? No,
he's not injury prone. He's just playing through an injury.
And guess what when he did that, he was the
RB one back to back seasons. Last year he wasn't
because they didn't use him as much. That doesn't mean
he can't be used that much. I'm taking Todd Gurley
all day in the fourth round? Are you kidding me? Yeah?

(27:26):
It's the discount is there for? Like you know, and
he's fallen. It shows when you go on our website
on Fantasy pros dot com, you can actually see a
player's ECR if they've fallen in and says Gurley has
fallen two spots in the past week. So experts are
moving him down for whatever reason. I don't know why. Again,
this is a high powered offense, you know, playing for
the Rams last year, I don't know if anybody would
have finished as an RB one behind that offensive line.

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And in like the lack of usage. The lack of
usage in the passing game was ridiculous, Like the Rams
targeted their running backs fewer than any other team in
the NFL and it wasn't even close. And that's kind
of crazy, right, Like when you think about everything but
Todd Gurley going to it, it's almost like a David
Johnson thing. But you have a player who didn't look
done at the end of the year. Todd Gurley looked fine,
He looked perfectly fine at the end of the year.
He looked bad at the start. Where's David Johnson? Last

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time we saw him on the field, he looked terrible.
So the fact that those guys ADP is getting closer
and closer together, it kind of blows my mind, especially
you know, knowing the offenses they play for. So, yeah,
Gurley is definitely a value for me. He gates where
he taken Todd Gurley And since I already jumped ahead
of you and said, my negative guy, where he taking
Devin Singletary. Yeah, No, Todd Gurley is someone who is

(28:32):
an absolute value right now in drafts. He obviously comes
with health concerns. We can't you pretend that that isn't there.
But if I can get him as my RB two,
where I don't need to rely on him, right Like,
if you draft someone as your RB one, they have
to be the cornerstone of your team, your fantasy football roster.
With Todd Gurley and his current draft price, you're not
depending on him to be that. So in this offense,

(28:53):
if he can stay healthy. Right, If he can just
stay healthy and he can play all sixteen games, my goodness,
he's going to finish as a borderline RB one and
you're getting him way later than that. So I have
him in that range. I'm just outside my top twelve
running backs, and so I'm all in as far as
getting him as an RB two and someone that I can,
you know, plug into my lineup. And if he starts

(29:14):
to struggle, then I didn't invest as much. Right if
he if he missed his time with injury, I didn't.
I can put him on my bench. I can put
him on my ir and I can feel okay about
it because I didn't invest as heavily of a draft
price into him as I did with Devin Singletary. And
your arguments probably, I think it all depends on what
you define as the job. Right. You said, like he's
coming to take the job. I don't. I was never
projecting Devin Singletary to be this two hundred and fifty

(29:36):
carry back that was ridiculous. I didn't see how in
the world you were going to be able to give
Devin Singletary that type of workload. So I always had
him as kind of this change of pace back. This
guy who's you mentioned everything that's going against him, and
by you know, forty yard dash metrics, he's the slowest
you know, pass catching whatever. All. That guy's elusive as hell, right,
we have to talk about that. This is one of

(29:56):
the most elusive running backs. He reads the whole extremely
well too. He's you know, like, yeah, he's so everything
that he does screams a change of pace back. But
at that point I have him down at RB thirty one.
With Zach Moss's involvement, He's not going to see the
type of workload that is going to return value on
where you're drafting him right now. So I totally get

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your argument, Bobby, that's someone that I would personally stay
away from as well. At his current draft price tags,
Singletary is RB twenty six right now in ECR ADP
twenty two, So he's going ahead of guys like David Johnson,
Jonathan Taylor, David Montgomery where he most I cannot see that.
How far down do you have Devin Singletary. I have
Singletary at RB twenty eight. If you if you draft

(30:39):
him as an RB three or a flax, shall be
fine with that. You won't be mad about it, but
understand that you're missing out on some potential upside that
you can get from players in that range. You know
that we that we' talked about a ready Jonathan Taylor.
There's no reason that Singletary should be going ahead of him.
Worst case scenario, Jonathan Taylor's involved in the timeshare, and
he's better than Devin Singletary. Singletary was inefficient as a
receiver last year. Zach Moss I was talking to Graham

(30:59):
Barfield about this. We were doing a draft on Sunday,
and we said that the gap between Singletary and Moss
and ADP or ECR whatever, it doesn't make sense because
you know, these guys were both drafted in the third round.
It's not like they have any allegiance to Devin Singletary.
If they really believe Singletary carry the load, they wouldn't
have spend another third round pick on another running back.
They clearly wanted this to be a timeshare. We've taught,
We've heard the GM talk about it, saying, if we

(31:20):
we're gonna have Zach Moss going to that Frank Gore role,
he's a much better receiver than Frank Gore. He's a
better receiver than Devin Singletary, so this is going to
be more of a time share than people realize. But again,
if you're looking for Singletary to post RB three flex
type numbers, I think he can get that done for you.
It's similar in the range of someone like Kareem Hunt.
But again, if you take him over Kareem Hunt, you
might get a higher floor week to week, but you're

(31:41):
also missing out on the upside because if something were
to happen at Chub Hunt is like literally a top
five running back. If something happens to Zach Moss, then
you're gonna probably see t J. Yelden mixed in. But
and Josh Allen still steal in ten rushing exactly, So
that the ceiling for Devin Singletary would be what a
high end RB two maybe yeah, yeah. If that's all
about expectation management, right, like, where what are you expecting

(32:04):
to get out of Devin's Singletary. If you're expecting to
get an RB two where you're drafting him at, you're
going to be disappointed. If you expect that to use
him metal as your RB three or your flex like
Tag said, then you'll be fine. So, tags, who are
you taking Devin's Singletary or Ronald Jones, who I think
has more upside and about the same amount of safety.
It's Ronald Jones. I have Ronald Jones too, I have
twenty five right now, so and I might move him

(32:25):
ahead of mark Ingram. I really wish we got to
see more of what the Ravens we're gonna do in
that backfield because JK. Dobbins worries me. I mean, mark
Ingram is someone that's moving down my draft board quite rapidly,
and like I every time I get in a draft,
and even even though he's next in my rankings, he's
the type. He's a guy that I don't want to
pull the trigger on, so I keep lowering him down
my draft board because I try to stay true to

(32:46):
that stuff. Yeah, I would take Ronald Jones, same exact
conversation for me. I got Jones at twenty seven, Ingram
at twenty six. I can't figure out if I should
put Jones ahead of him, but yes, Singletary's down at
thirty two for me, so it is definitely Ronald Jones.
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Who you going with? Yeah, David Montgomery right for the

(33:50):
player that I like in this range. That's no surprise.
There's you know, if you've been listening to the Fantasy
Pros Football podcast or any length of period this offseason,
you know David Montgomery is my guy. Just purely based
on workload. If we're talking about a talent level, well,
sure you can talk about his lack of vision in
between the tackles, but this guy, again same argument as
Devin Singletary, elusives help, breaks a ton of tackles, has

(34:12):
great contact, balance, has these things that I want in
a running back. But then as we're talking and moving
the conversation from NFL talent to then fantasy related, this
guy's going to receive two hundred and seventy carries and
his workload through the air should go up as well.
If we're talking about Nick Foles taking the starting job
where he's not going to be scrambling as much as
Mitch Triski was, so at that point it's going to

(34:33):
lead to more checkdowns when he's on the field. So there,
everything is pointing to David Montgomery being an absolute value
this year. And I know that it doesn't feel great
pulling the trigger on him, but when you're talking about
him at RB twenty five in ADP and RB twenty
four in ECR, both of those are just extremely surprising
to me because I think he's going to drastically outperform
that tags. How do you feel about David Montgomery, just

(34:55):
how high do you have him? I am at RB
twenty two, So I mean, I it's weird because I
see his ADP creeping up a little bit, because it
was at RB twenty six a little bit ago, and
I said, that's his absolute floor where you're getting him,
and then it's creeping up where now it's like RB
twenty three. I think it was. So I think he's
becoming more valued the way he should be. My concern
here is it has nothing to do with competition in
the roster, because he has none. My concern is that

(35:16):
the Bears really didn't do anything to upgrade their offensive line,
which looked like crap last year. You know, and if
Matt Naggie doesn't get better as a play caller this year,
then you know, it's going to be running into a
brick wall. So he has to get a little bit
more creative. But he is going to get touches. And
that's why if you're going to take that late round
running back approach or middle round, whatever you want to
call it, if you end up with like let's say
that you wait until the fifth round, fifth sixth round

(35:38):
to take a running back and you get levy On
Bell and and David Montgomery is your running backs. I
don't think you should be mad about that because these
guys are going to post RB two numbers at least
half the time. And again going back to that article
I wrote this week, it kind of shows what to
expect out of running backs. I don't think people realize
even the guys that they draft at the top of drafts,
like outside of the elite, you know those top four
running backs that we continually talk about, top five running backs.

(36:00):
If you get running back to post RB one numbers
forty fifty percent of the time, that's a lot. That's
a real lot. So getting RB two numbers consistently out
of someone like Leveon Bell or someone like David Montgomery
that absolutely has value. He may not carry you to
a Fantasy championship, but he can be a part of
a Fantasy championship winning team because he needs stability on
your roster, especially if he's your RB three man. You

(36:21):
give me this guy in the RB three all in
the flex all day, baby. Yep. It's weird because I
don't love David Montgomery, but where he's being drafted, I
just don't get it. Like, like he said, tax that's
his floor, YEA two. Who's your negative guy? I didn't
mention him, but I will mention cam Akers in this
range at RB twenty eight in ECR and adp Right,
can't believe he's in this range, man, I know this

(36:44):
is this is his ceiling in my opinion, in this offense.
Now people want to be drafting him to be Todd
Gurley and you know the potential for what he could
be in this offense. Everything that we are hearing from
the Rams coaching staff this offseason has been that they
want to utilize a committee approach. They want to use
Darrell Henderson, they want to utilize Cam Akers, they want
to utilize Malcolm Brown, maybe even John Kelly. So these

(37:04):
guys are all going to be involved in this offense.
And if that's the case, cam Akers is not going
to see enough work to be, you know, to return
value on RB twenty eight. He's just not and so
and especially to when you factor in the fact that
I watched a lot of cam Akers tape at Florida State. Right,
That's one of my big things is that I watched
over five hundred games of tape on this past draft class. Right,

(37:26):
So watching cam Akers, I saw a terrible vision. I
saw terrible decision making behind. And yes, the offensive line
in FLA at Florida State is atrocious. I'm not going
to pretend that is in the case, Guys. Offensive line
in LA is not that much better, right it was?
It just it's not. It's not a great offensive line.
So those things cam Akers needs to be utilized as
a pass catching back out of the backfield. Get him

(37:48):
into space where he can utilize this as athleticism to begin.
He can certainly develop on his vision. He can certainly
turn into a great back down the road. But for
this season, it's just not going to be there. I
don't think so. Sometimes when you're running back, though, if
your offensive line is trash, I was a running back,
so that's why I'm talking about it. Sometimes when your
offensive line is trash, you gotta try anything you can
do to create and so I think they might be

(38:09):
able to coach that out of him. I mean, this
is a skilled player. I think that cam Akers could
have been good. If he would have landed in Indianapolis,
I'd be drafting cam Akers, no doubt about it. But
he didn't. He landed with the Rams, and it's between
the Rams and the Bears, who have the worst offensive
line in football. Maybe the Bengals are still in that conversation,
but it's one of those three, right, He's not going
to do anything, especially in a four back committee, like

(38:31):
Sean McVay said, it's gonna be tags. Yeah, well, he's
clearly said it's going to be more of a committee
moving forward. And again, if you have a team that
doesn't target the running backs, that cuts into a lot
of production fantasy wise. So you start capping the ceiling there,
and then you talk about the offensive line, Yates, Yeah,
I'm with you in that and that the Rams are
a bottom three offensive line in football and they didn't
do anything to address it. It's similar to the Bears

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in that way where it's gonna be really tougher for
him to post that high yards per carry. I don't
know if this should be considered a high scoring offense anymore.
With the changes that they've had. There's the Rams have
potential to be a bad football team and it's kind
of crazy to think where we've gone now. Sean mcvayh
is a He's a smart young individual, and I'm sure
he'll adapt to things. But I don't think Cam Akers
is good enough to make it work behind this offensive

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He's not Saque Barkley. So yeah, I'm with Yates on
this one. I mean, in this range, you get to
the point where you're taking shots on starting running backs.
I just think there's better ones you can take a
shot on, like a Ronald Jones, a guy that you
know has played in the NFL. We've seen him succeed
behind this offensive line. It only got better, you know,
taking shots on guys like that, rather than you know,
Cam Akers, or even if DeAndre Swift, you know. But yeah,

(39:34):
I'm out on Acres as well. Oh my goodness, I
just saw Deanti Johnson go at the start of the
sixth round in my drafting with Giant draft people, chill
out on Deanti Johnson. He might not even start. Oh
he's starting starting, He's starting. I'm will to put a
bet down on that. I think James Washington take that,

(39:58):
all right, I need some I need some odds. That's
obviously fifty fifty the difference in their eighty. But I
mean it, you just said that you'd bet on that. Yeah,
you said you had bet on it. Then you don't
get to change the terms of the bet. Yeah, I'll
bet I'll bet on it with the odds that everyone
seems to consider it. You didn't say that, you just
you just said I don't think it's a given that
he started. You're like, I don't even think he starts. Yeah,
And on a previous podcast, Bobby, you said that James

(40:18):
Washington is going to start over him. Yeah, I think
I do think he's going to. I'm just trying to
get better odds too. I'm like, Okay, if I'm gonna
do this bet, maybe I can get even better. All Right,
we'll figure it out after the show. But regardless, tags
you need to give us your guy in this range
that you don't like. All right, Well, I was gonna
say mark Ingram, but I already kind of talked about
him for a moment, So I'll just mentioned Darius. Guys.
I mean we've been here before, Guys, I mean, have
we not learned our lesson by now? If we haven't

(40:38):
learned the less night now, we're probably never going to.
And it's not that I'm rooting against the guy, but
not not only is it a low scoring football team,
it's a bad football team. They have the offensive line
is again among the worst in the NFL. I don't
want anybody here. You know, you don't resign Adrian Peterson
back to sit on the mentor. Adrian Peterson is not
going to sit on the bench and get five carries.
It's just not going to happen. So they're going to

(40:59):
give him touches, whether it be even if it's only
eight to ten touches per game, that's enough to take
away from Darius Guys's upside, which is already limited in
this offense. So, yeah, Darius Guys, I really don't understand
why people are drafting him inside the top thirty running
backs or even ranking him there. This is ECR we're
talking about. Why is he a number thirty ECR running back? Why?
Thank you? And all three of the guys that we mentioned,

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Cam Makers, Devin Singletary and Darius Guys, there is no
chance I'll have any of them on my team. I'm
so glad we brought all three of them up. In frankly,
I think Darius Guys is the best one to bring
up tags Like I can't believe my eyes just glazed
over him. Was like I got to talk about Devin Singletary,
But yeah, it's it's Darius Guys. Man, if you draft
him in the top thirty running backs, I don't think
you want to win your fantasy league. Yeah, it's I don't.

(41:41):
I just don't get it. I mean we've been here before. Like, really,
what's the reward? What is the reward with Darius Guys?
That's my question. If there was a reward of maybe
getting a top fifteen running back, I don't think that's
possible behind Washington's offensive line in that offense. Like that's
another team that is contending for the number one overall pick. Yep,
I would agree with that. Let's move on to the
next range, though. These are the guys that are basically

(42:03):
role players. They're starting the season's role players or they're
high upside handcuffs. So give us one that you really love.
H you get to go first this time. I don't
know why he's considered in this category. I you know,
it's Jordan Howard, Like, how is Jordan Howard still considered
this role player? Like he's not one of the two
is going to start. It's probably Howard. But yeah, no,
I get I get it, I get it, I totally

(42:24):
get it. But I'm what I'm saying is I don't
think he should be here. He needs to be higher
because he is going to receive more than two hundred
two hundred and twenty carries on the ground. Now, does
he have top fifteen upside? No, I'm not sitting here
projecting that at all. But we need to be remembering
just how good Jordan Howard is as a running back.
Public perception on him is super down because of last
year and the fact that he was injured, but yet

(42:46):
we still saw him produce in this part time role,
mixing in with Miles Sanders like, He's still had some
really good games. And so now that he is the
clear cut starter, in my opinion, I don't think Brita
is nothing anything more than a change of pace back.
He's never been anything more than that in his NFL career.
So why are we projecting now that Matt Breda is
going to be this guy who takes the majority of
the carries when Jordan Howard has seen two hundred and

(43:08):
fifty carries the majority of his career each season. Right,
So Jordan Howard being a starting running back that you
can get at RB thirty seven in ADP guys RB
thirty three in ECR. That's the thing that's mind boggling too,
is that the experts are down at him too. I'm
ranked at RB twenty six, so I'm higher on him. Again.
I'm not sitting here saying that he has top twenty,
top fifteen upside, but he's going to produce for your

(43:30):
fantasy roster. And we're at this spot in the draft.
That's the players that I want to be taking a
shot on. So who do you have him over? If
you've got him up at RB twenty six, who are
a couple of guys that you would take him over?
I would take Jordan Howard over Raheem Mostert, Philip Lindsay,
Devin Singletary, Zach moss Sony Michelle. Those are some of
the guys, especially cam Akers, you know, Ronald Jones. Those

(43:51):
are the guys that I would be taking Jordan Howard over. So, Taxs,
what do you think is going to happen with Jordan
Howard this year? Because I'm looking back rookie year RB
nine twenty seventeen, RB ten twenty eighteen, RB twenty twenty nineteen.
He missed six games and was still RB thirty eight,
which is about where he's being drafted right now. I mean,
I think it's I think he's the starter in Miami.
And if he's the starter, wouldn't you love to have

(44:13):
him as your RB four or even RB three. I'd
be comfortable with Jordan Howard. He's the starter for sure,
you think so. He's not good Man, the fastest fire
in the league. It's like a sixth round pick. They
give it for him, right and they brought forward first
and he and he hasn't been able to hold up
to a workload. So I think that the idea is
to time share these backs. I think they make a

(44:33):
good duo between the two of them. It's like a
thunder and lightning thing where Jordan Howard is not hearing
the world on fire in terms of like he's not lighter.
That's Matt you just said, one of the fastest guys
in the league, Jordan Howard. Is he a little bit boring? Yeah?
Is there a place for that in fantasy? Yeah? I
don't know if I would. I'm not gonna draft him
as high as Yates' is because I'd prefer to take
some shots there. But if you get down into like

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that RB thirty four range, that's where I kind of
feel like where I'm okay taking a shot on him
because it I guess it comes down to team roster
and the build that you have. Because Ronald Jones is
right there with him at thirty one in ECR, Jordan
Howard's thirty two, I'd take Ronald Jones. I think the
ceiling is a little bit higher age, But again, it
all comes down to what you're looking for. Tre Cohen
is a safer player in my opinion, if you're playing

(45:14):
in a half PPR format, I think tre Cohen's safer.
But again, if you're looking for stability and you're looking
for a guy that is not going to crush your lineup,
and you're he's going to get twelve plus touches per week,
So that's there is a floor there, and there's a
little projecting going on here because you have to wonder, Okay,
what's the game scripts because we know Jordan Howard is
not a great pass catcher. It's I mean it's been
multiple teams now where we've seen teams say they're going

(45:36):
to use him in the passing game and it just
doesn't happen because he's just not a good receiver. There
was one game where the Bears. I think he had
like six drops in one game. I'm not kidding, So
he's not going to be there. So it just it
really depends on what you're looking for out of a
running back. He's never going to finish as as a
top eighteen running back with Miami and with a state
of that team where it's at, especially the offensive line,
because he's gone from a team with the Bears. When

(45:56):
he was with the Bears, the Bears had one of
the top twelve offensive lines of football. Then he went
to the who are top five in football, and he
obviously fit that zone scheme very well. Going to Miami,
they just rebuilt their offensive line, and I cannot say
with any certainty that there's I can't even say there's
one player on that team on that offensive line that
I think is is over like above average. So that's

(46:17):
why I ranked them as my worst offensive line. They
tried addressing it and it could work out, but especially
in this offseason, I just don't know if the offensive
line is going to come together. The benefit really quick, Bobby.
The benefit here is that if like Jordan Howard is
being drafted, is the RB twenty two twenty four, I
would probably say like, okay, I'm out at that price
tag right like I might. There are some other guys
that would probably be looking to take, you know, to

(46:37):
be drafting him over. But RB thirty seven guys like
you can get him super late, like Bobby said, as
your RB four RB five in some places, if you're building,
you know, if you have loaded up on RB heavy
early on and you like some of the value at
wide receiver later, So at that point I can roll
Jordan Howard in as my flex as you know, a
buy week option, and he's a fantastic option to fill

(46:58):
in at that point. When I say RB four, I
mean that's not exactly where he's being drafted. He's being
drafted in the low end RB three range. But here's
the thing. Pretty much everyone who listens to our podcast
is going to be waiting on quarterback. A lot of
them are gonna be waiting on tight end. We're all
gonna be loading up on running backs early, and so
you're gonna if you're taking a fourth running back, it's
gonna be in this you know, eighth round range where

(47:19):
Jordan Howard's going. I think he's a very solid R
before they can fill in during buy weeks and you
don't have to rely on him every single week. You
don't have to throw him in there in a bad matchup.
So I feel comfortable having him now the other guy
that I like even more. I think he's safer and
I think he has substantially more upside. And I know
you're gonna fight me on this, Yates, but Latavius Murray

(47:39):
just because the Saints running game for ten twelve years
has been phenomenal from fantasy perspective, and it wasn't last year.
They had some injuries, but I think that they're going
to be able to get back to that mean TEGs.
You mentioned it. Mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara both finished
in the top six Fantasy football running backs. And Latavius
Murray's a good football player. Man. He's one of the
best goal line backs over the past five years in football.

(48:00):
He catches the ball when Alvin Kamara goes down. He
was the RB one when Alvin Kamara was out, So
I think Latavius Murray has standalone value and I think
he is league winning upside if Kamara was to go down.
So I'd love to have him as my RB four tags. Yeah,
I'm all I'm with you one hundred percent on Latavia's
Murray over Jordan Howard. I think I probably so rank
So it depends on how you approach this. Right, So,

(48:22):
Yates is a projections guy, and projections is going to
tell you that Jordan Howard's better. But it's almost like
a Kareem Hunt argument, because Kareem Hunt is not going
to be a top twenty five running back or whatever
in terms of like if you do peer projections, but
if you factor in the fact factor in, you know,
if the starter order go down, what that means for
his potential. That's where Latavius Murray moves out because I

(48:42):
have him at thirty six right now among running backs,
So I have Jordan Howard at thirty two. But again,
when it comes down to drafting, Latavius Murray might be
the more appealing one depending on where you're at, Like
I think Jordan Howard is probably gonna be a better
higher Like it's almost like that Devin's Singletary Kareem Hunt
argument where you might get a slightly higher Laura which
Jordan Howard on a week to week basis, but the
potential upside for Latavia's Murray with I think he comes

(49:06):
with a better floor than people think. I think that
the touchdowns in New Orleans. I was looking at that
the other day. New Orleans going over their last six years,
there were in terms of rushing touchdowns fourteen, fourteen, fourteen,
twenty one, twenty, and then it went down to ten
last year. I think that rebounds to somewhere around that
sixteen range. Obviously, Alvin Kamara is going to see some
more touchdowns. Latavius Murray's gonna score some touchdowns. I believe

(49:29):
that he's going to have flex viability more often than not.
And then obviously with the upside of Alvin Kamara, where
to go down? All right? Tags, who are you going with?
Who I like in this range? I mean Ronald Jones.
It would be dumb for me not to say him
because I haven't at RB twenty five and he's going
the ECR RB thirty two on him. Now. I haven't
had a chance to talk with you guys about this.
Are you guys worried about Lashaw McCoy at all? Now?

(49:50):
He's coming from Kansas City where Andy Reid, even though
Damian Williams was injured and they really didn't have anybody else,
he refused to give him more than eleven carries in
a game. He looked like he was done obviously going
to Tampa Bay playing for Bruce Arians. Not as good
as a head coach, as as Andy Reid, not a
good as play caller. I should say I don't. I
think Lashawn McCoy seems like a death piece. But at

(50:11):
the same time, if we go back to Bruce Arians
in two thy fifteen, maybe when David Johnson was a rookie,
David Johnson was on the roster, Andre Ellington was on
the roster, and Chris Johnson was on the roster, and
this is well passed Chris Johnson's prime. Chris Johnson was
talking about JJ Zachar Reaeson's tweet right now. He posted
about this. It's fantastic. Oh got it? Yeah, because yeah,

(50:31):
when you go back to that, I've referenced this because
David Johnson was a third round pick, which is like
why people were talking about Keyshaw Vaughan and David Johnson
was a third round pick and even though he was
super efficient, he kept they kept giving the touches to
Chris Johnson and Andre Ellington got some before he got hurt.
So I just don't know if this is something against
Ronald Jones. I don't know if against something against young

(50:52):
running backs. I can't pretend that there's not some risk
there with Ronald Jones. So I don't think I need
to draft him as the number twenty five running back.
But if I draft him around the RB thirty range,
thirty two, that's fine. What is his upside exactly? Because
this is going to be a great offense if he play.
I mean, if he's the starter all year long, he's
gonna be a top fifteen running back, top fifteen, Yeah,

(51:12):
for sure. The h you agree. I mean, if he's
the starter, if he can hold on at the job
and he can be you know, more of a pass
catcher out of the backfield, sure, I think that's a
very very narrow path for him to return value. Here
was JJ. Here was JJ zach Reesen's tweet the other day,
so he said. In twenty fifteen, Bruce arians Is Cardinals
signed betteran Chris Johnson after drafting a twenty three year
old David Johnson in the third round, who is looking

(51:33):
to replace a speedy third year back Andre Ellington. In
twenty twenty, Bruce arians As Buccaneers signed veteran Lashaw McCoy
after drafting a twenty three year old Keishaw Vaughn in
the third round who is looking to replace a speedy
third year back Ronald Jones. So for me, with Lashawn McCoy,
I think this is more of an insurance, just a
depth piece. And especially when you're talking about if they

(51:53):
do like Keishaw Vaughn as much as I think they
do that, especially in a shortened off season, no preseason
Keisha Vaun on the Cove nineteen list. I expect him
to come off of that obviously before the start of
the season. But this is someone that you need as
pass catching insurance if you if Ronald Jones comes out
Again't remember they haven't gotten their hands on Ronald Jones yet,
like they're just getting him into the building, so they

(52:14):
don't know if he's improved dramatically as a pass catcher.
There's been rumors that he's been working on an all
off season. This is just insurance. This is to be
able to say if if Ronald Jones isn't there as
a pass catcher, if Keishaw Vaughan isn't ready to start
the season, then we have Lashaw McCoy. We can plug
him in on third downs and he'll be fine. He'll
get you know, four carries a game or whatever. And
then so what I'm projecting is Keishaw von to eventually

(52:36):
take over. I move Keishaw Vaughan dramatically down my rankings
with projecting Ronald Jones to start the season and still
be heavily involved. Lashaw McCoy being involved at the beginning
of the season, so all that kind of goes together.
I think Keishaw Vonn is going to be a value
later on in the year, and then I think Ronald
Jones is going to be, you know, is going to
start out the season super hot. You'd have been proud
of me. Yates and that draft I was talking about

(52:56):
on Sunday. It was an auction and I got Keishaw
von for I think two dollars. Oh I saw that, man.
When I saw you at Keisha Vaughn and your roster,
I was like, hold on, where you drafting with Yates?
Because there's no way you could do that. Yeah, I said,
that's the only share that I will have. I promise
Ronald Jones went for like twenty five or twenty six bucks.
So here's the plan, guys. Wow wow, So here's the plan, guys. Okay,

(53:18):
we're gonna go lightning round for the guys we don't
like in this range, So just give a very quick analysis.
None of us are even going to give our feedback,
and then after that we're gonna give two complete sleepers
that we like, same kind of thing. We're gonna move
quick on that. So tags, who are you going with?
I'm avoiding Sony Michelle, right, you two Yates? Probably right?

(53:38):
It's it. Yeah, Sony Michelle was on my list too.
Is that actually your name? It is it? Okay? Yep?
I almost put Sony Michelle, but I figured someone else
was going to bring him up, just kind of like
with Darius guys, So I didn't pick him, but he
would have been my guy. I'm going with Kerry and
Johnson instead. I just can't see him hold enough DeAndre Swift,
and even if he does in this offense, what's his upside?
So don't really care. Let's go on to the guys

(53:58):
that we think are old sleepers. These are outside the
top fifty running backs. Yeah, it's your first one. Should
give us your two back to back here, Antonio Gibson
rookie running backs lash wide receiver in Washington. Now, this
is part of the argument too with Darius Geist is
that it's not only the fact that Adrian Peterson is there,
it's the fact that they have Antonio Gibson. They drafted him,
this coaching staff drafted him. Then you also have Peyton Barber,

(54:20):
Bryce Love, Jadie McKissick all on this roster and they
called the Antonio Gibson Christian McCaffrey, which is kind of
a big deal, right, which that hey, not not there yet, right,
but I think he's going on dramatically, not yet dramatically
outperform RB fifty eight, right, So I think as far
as adp and he's RB fifty five and ECR, so
I think he's gonna dramatically outperform that he's going to

(54:40):
be heavily involved in the passing game. He's going to
be taking away those targets as a slot receiver I think,
and out of the backfield. So this is someone that
I really like. And then another guy. There aren't a
whole lot of options in this range that I'm super
crazy about, but Josh Kelly, stay on brand here. I'll
bring him up. That was like the staying on brand
for both sides, right that mentioning Josh Kelly and your

(55:01):
reaction to josh Kelly exactly, I had to no, No,
I think Josh Kelly is going to be involved in this,
in this rushing attack in Los Angeles, and so if
that's the case, he's going to be involved, he'll be
higher than the RB sixty three, which is what he
isn't ECR and RB seventy in ADP right now, I
think the process and Josh Kelly is exactly right, and
that's why Justin Jackson's one of my guys. Right, one

(55:22):
of these two guys is going to vastly outproduce their ADP.
I think, very likely within the top thirty five running
backs and maybe quite a bit higher. I think that
one of them is going to get the Melvin Gordon
rolan Osnickeler is going to be the same exact player
that he was last season, which is great, but we're
not drafting m till the third round for a reason.
Justin Jackson or Joshua Kelly's going to take over. I
like Jackson, Moore Yates like Kelly a little bit more

(55:43):
so it makes sense now going back to the other
name that you had, Antonio Gibson, Tex. I know I
said we weren't going to talk about this a little bit.
We do have some time, though, on I gotta pick
your brain about Antonio Gibson because I haven't heard you
talk about him. I know the offensive is just disgusting.
But if you're looking at one of these RB fives
in this range, Daryl Henderson, Duke Johnson, Naim Hines, Adrian Peterson,

(56:05):
where's the upside with those guys? Wouldn't you rather have
someone like Antonio Gibson. He's just a complete question mark.
He has like twenty touches in college. I don't even
know what his upside is though. That's the thing again,
we're going back. I don't want to own any Washington
running back, let me be clear about that, and that
includes Antonio Gibson. I don't know what the upside is
with him. Steven Simms, when he took over in the
slot last year, he was really freaking good, like he

(56:28):
was actually a good football player. He's used on special
teams as well. Gibson obviously, as you mentioned, he wasn't
used heavily in college, and knowing that Peterson's there, that
Geiss is there that Bryce Love is still on the
roster jd mkiss, It catches some passes up the backfield.
They signed Peyton Barber for whatever reason. Again, all these
names just pile up and you're just like gross, it's
just disgusting and I want nothing to do with it,
because again, Gibson would need to be used as like

(56:49):
a slot receiver for me to feel good about him,
and even then, what's his upside? It's like, I feel
like Antonio Gibson is going to be a cold Beastley
type player, and are people going to use that ears
end to say Antonio Gibson was a top forty running
back if you look at overall numbers, he will be.
But do you ever put him in your lineup thinking oh,
this is exciting, like this is gonna be really good.
Usually for those flax spots, I'm looking for someone with

(57:11):
a little bit more upside, like you know John Ross
on a weekly basis, I would rather put someone like
that in my lineup. If what if they give eighty
receptions and one hundred and fifty, Kid, he's not getting
eighty receptions, He's not I don't even know. If somebody
has to catch the ball from behind all game? Is
Dwayne Haskins going to complete eighty eighty balls? Well, now
they're saying that Alex Smith is competing for the starting job,
which really scares me. No, But seriously, Terry mclaurin's the

(57:33):
number one And if you think that there's gonna be
two pass catching options out of this offense, I think
you're wrong. It does help that there's no tight end
on the roster, basically, yeah, right right, that definitely does help.
I'll just say, like everything that tag said, I'm in
agreement with that, and I'm projecting him to be the
slot receiver. So if we get news that, you know,
as the preseason quote unquote continues and that they're saying

(57:55):
that Antonio Gibson is going to be utilized just as
a running back out of the backfield, you know whatever,
then and Steven Sims has a starting slot receiver role
locked up, then Gibson will come crashing back down my ranking. Yeah. Yeah,
But projecting right now, based on the information that I
have and watching his tape and in college, that he
should be the slot receiver. And I have him down
for eighty three targets, So he has the talent to

(58:16):
be able to break away and make some big plays.
I mean, he's a two hundred and twenty nine pound
running back with four three nine speed. Amazing. Oh he's super,
He's he's electric like that dude. But but again, like
I worry about players like that just not It's almost
like Nicole Hardman, right, Like Hardman last year was crazy
efficient and like he's fast and as hell even though
Tyreek Hill was out, I think, what did Hardman get
like forty targets on the season. That's what I worry

(58:38):
about it for someone like Gibson, Like the hype is
just too is too much, and it's almost like there's
has to be a transition for you don't just go
from getting you know, twenty thirty touches in college too,
you know, a giant getting beat up by humongous guys
in the NFL. Yeah, especially in no off season. So
I already said justin Jackson, we don't need to rehash
that argument. My second guy is m is Anthony McFarlane
and tags, I know what you're gonna say, he's small

(59:00):
to be a starting running back in the NFL. Like,
I know you like Anthony McFarland because you think he
NBA passcatcher. Let's stop. I know where you're going with this.
I know I know where you're going with this, and
I'm gonna I'm gonna poo poo it right now because
it's anything to do it. It has nothing to do
with his size. Nothing to do with his size, absolutely nothing.
Because he can be a workhorse running back. But here's
the issue. The Steelers don't view him as a workhorse

(59:20):
running back like Mike Tomlin. So this is something I
think most people miss and that's why I want to
bring this up. Jake Seeley started talking to me about
this during that draft, saying that McFarland's the handcuff. And
I'm like, Mike Tomlin, you know, you know him as
a very honest coach, right And he said, yeah, I've
actually he's actually talked to him, interviewed him. He's like,
he is very honest. Mike Tomlin. There was a quote
that he did. I'm gonna find it. He said, if
you know James Connor is gonna be a workhorse running back,

(59:42):
he's gonna go with that. James Connor's the guy that
he's going to get the touches. We've always been a
one back system, and it's something were to happen to him.
You know, Benny Snell is someone that can go on
and fill that role. He didn't even mention McFarland, which
tells me there's a completely different role, because again, you
don't draft McFarland where you did without some sort of
role in mind. You don't draft him to be the fourth,
to be the third running back on the depth chart.
So I do believe that there's a role for McFarland,

(01:00:05):
and I do think he's better than Benny Snell. But unfortunately,
I don't think the Steelers do. Yeah, but how many
times have we heard this from coaches about rookies where
they just don't include them because they haven't seen enough
of them? Well every single year, man, but Benny Snell whatever. Yeah, Yeah,
you're right. That's the thing is, like they've seen Jalen Samuels,
they've seen Benny Snell, and and that's why I think
they drafted Anthony McFarland. I'm not saying he's not a

(01:00:27):
bad lottery take. He's actually my likes Bobby. He was
actually gonna be one of the guys that I brought up,
so right, I was just trying to get it get
ahead of the curve here where I knew you were
gonna say, well, I don't think that they're going to
use him in that way. And I thought it was
because you thought he was too small. No no, no, no,
like because most people listening, I mean, even though I
couldn't trap you into this, a lot of people listening here, like,
hold on, Anthony McFarland's this little scat back. Yeah, you

(01:00:48):
know who else is a little scatback? JK. Dobbins five
nine two oh nine, Clyde andrews Laire five seven two
o seven, Nick whaland from what is It Dynasty Nerds?
Dynasty Nerds posted that yesterday and I retweeted it And
Anthony mc farland's the same size those guys five eight
two o eight. Yeah, I mean, to be fair, every
running backs built different, Like Daryl Henderson was a guy
that was viewed his undersize, and obviously his transition to

(01:01:08):
the NFL didn't go as some people. Jim McCaffrey was undersized. Yeah,
he justin Jackson for sure. And that's yeah, that's that's
why size to me means something like Ray Rice was
one of the funnest running backs to watch play the game,
you know, like that's that's Clyde Wod's Hillier. To me,
that's how it feels. McFarland just his skill set in
terms of what I've seen him do, I think that
he's gonna be best suited as like that that eight

(01:01:29):
to ten touches per game type guy that you mix in.
You get him in the passing downs, you get him
in the open field, and like he's electric. I do
like Anthony and Farland, and that's what I'm saying. He
was on my list of guys I was gonna say
that I liked in like the late late rounds, because
I think he can give you some production even with
James Connor on the field. But if Connor goes down,
I think it would be more of a time share.
Like I think they viewed Benny Snell as the actual handcuff,

(01:01:49):
so it would take it would just take too much
time basically for McFarland to return a sleeper value is
where I'm at. I'm buying a lottery ticket preseason in
case he is that handcuff and we'll find out. I mean,
you're not gonna draft your guy, buddies, No, No, I'm
not drafting Benny Stow. He's not my guy. No, real
quick though, Real quick though, can we who we all agree?
Do we think that DeAndre Washington is suddenly like one

(01:02:10):
of the better handcuffs? Yes, big time. He moved into
my top four. In fact, I've got him neck and
neck with Alexander Madison. Holy cow, you moved him up
that far? Yes, I did, Yes, I did. Yeah. What
about you, Yates? Do you think Darryl Williams might have
a role Do you think Darwin Thompson gets some play
if something were to happen to Edwards Hire. I think
Darwin Thompson will be somewhat involved to begin with as

(01:02:30):
the pass catching guy. Again, that's not a lot like
twenty five targets on the season or whatever. So but
I think that DeAndre Washington will be the guy that
you want to own in that backfield. All right, tags,
it's down to you, a man, give us two sleepers
at the running back position, all right. So well, McFarland
was going to be on there. I talked about DeAndre Washington.
Damian Harris obviously I've mentioned him before. I think there's
a chance that Damien Harris starts as New England's running

(01:02:52):
back and no, what's crazy in that draft, that industry
draft on Sunday, Sony Michelle went for cheaper than Damien Harris.
I think that was two. That was too far. I
already had running back stack to my roster. I wasn't
about to even go there, but that was a little
bit too far. But it just goes to show how
things are shifting. They both went really cheap, and I'm
just gonna go quickly into the ones that I dislike
in this range that I wouldn't use a pick on

(01:03:13):
Adrian Peterson. We've already talked about him. There's just really
no reason at this point. And then AJ Dillon. I'm
not drafting aj Dillon. I want to. He's like the
new John Kun to me, where he's gonna steal. He's
gonna steal some touchdowns, but he's not going to get
enough touchdowns to make him fantasy relevant because Aaron Jones
is really good at football. John Kun was one of
my favorite players to watch, which is a really weird
because they were like one of the only teams to

(01:03:34):
use a fullback and every time they'd give him the ball,
even though he's this day old fat fullback. He would
jump over some dude and it's like, how did how
did he do that? Why did he think that was
a good idea? But it was always fun to watch him.
Really quick news just broke Ian Rappaport on Twitter. Steelers
quarterback Ben Roethlisberger tells reporters that he tore three flexor
tendons off the bone and it's elbow surgery. He believes

(01:03:56):
no quarterback has ever come back from. It's not a
Tommy John but someway similar and very serious. That he
looks good and feels as good as impressive. That's terrifying
that happened just now. No, no man like he's done
for No. Rap Report tweeted that just now. But his
injury from last year, that's what he's coming back from. Yaikes. Yeah,
I mean apparently he has zip on his ball. So

(01:04:19):
what's a weird sentence? Who are the free agent quarterbacks?
Because obviously that are gonna roll with Mason Rudolph again
about if he happens to him. I'm just gonna ignore that.
That's an all time podcast moment. I'm trying. I'm literally
I'm literally crying. I mean, I think everybody's gone now right,
maybe they can trade for Josh Rosen. I thought you

(01:04:41):
were talking about our podcast audience. Oh we gotta love Bobby.
Uh yeah, Josh Rosen. I'm surprised Josh Rosen is not
on a different team, by the way, I don't know
why that hasn't happened. Right, he's the third quarterback. He's
not even gonna be on the active roster, is he.
I mean he has to guy a nerds. But obviously
we have we have eighty man rosters now, so I

(01:05:02):
mean that's guessing he will be just in case it's
it's a weird season. Man. Again. I know I keep
bringing this up, but in that draft, tell me how
you guys think about this where we close up the show,
people drafting three quarterbacks two quarterbacks like in a single
quarterback lear, Well, we should be playing in leagues this
year with eighteen player rosters. In my mind, oh we did.

(01:05:22):
This wasn't eighteen man roster by the way. Yeah, yeah,
it's all it's all dependent upon how big the rosters are. Yeah,
but I'm not a post that out. If I have
an eighteen team roster, I'm definitely drafting two quarterbacks. And
the only way that I would draft three is if
all of the other starters are starting to go and
then I'm like, okay, I just need to go get
Derek Carr before I'm playing with a backup and maybe

(01:05:44):
I don't have a starting quarterback because you know, he's
rolled out with strep throat because he has a temperature
and they think it might be COVID, you know what
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