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December 11, 2024 52 mins

What does training for spending weeks deep underground teach you about the rest of life?

 

Katie Graham is a passionate cave and canyon explorer who discovered Canada’s deepest and second deepest caves. This feat was showcased in the 2023 documentary film “Subterranean.”

 

Katie is a fellow of the Royal Canadian Geographic Society and president of the Alberta Speleological Society. As a former accountant, she left her corporate gig to spend more time underground.

 

We talk about:

  • Is it caving, or spelunking?
  • The pressure of working deep underground, especially with a film crew
  • Breaking her leg days deep in the cave and self-evacuating for 3 days
  • Hauling tons of heavy gear for weeks just to spend minutes in a cave section
  • The mundane monotony of training for expeditions
  • Finding balance between celebrating milestones and the training grind
  • The mental game of cave diving
  • Burning out with a passion and how to add fun back into it
  • The scary days that kick your ass are the ones that matter most
  • Why Katie started professional accounting and why she later quit
  • The nuance of her team being kicked out of a village on a caving trip to Mexico
  • The effects of living underground for weeks and manipulating your own circadian rhythm
  • Making cool cave suits!

 

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Shout-Outs:

-Music: The King of Sandwich Island by Shut-ins

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