Estelle Erasmus is joined by editor Sari Botton, a memoirist featured in Poets & Writers’ “5 Over 50.” In this episode, Sari shares why the most powerful memoirs often illuminate the ordinary, how she found the right container to structure her story, and the lessons she’s learned about balancing honesty with protecting others on the page. She also discusses the challenges of people-pleasing, the persistence of “mean girls” into adulthood, and how she built a thriving editorial life through her Substack publications, Oldster, Memoir Land, and Adventures in Journalism.
Sari Botton's memoir in essays, And You May Find Yourself...Confessions of a Late-Blooming Gen-X Weirdo, was chosen by Poets & Writers magazine for the 2022 edition of its annual "5 Over 50" feature. For five years, she was the Essays Editor at Longreads. She edited the bestselling anthologies Goodbye to All That: Writers on Loving and Leaving New York and Never Can Say Goodbye: Writers on Their Unshakable Love for New York. She publishes Oldster Magazine, Memoir Land, and Adventures in Journalism.
In this episode:
Why strong memoirs focus on the universal, not just the extraordinary [3:00]
How to find the catalytic moment that gives your story shape [5:10]
The importance of writing a fearless “vomit draft” before refining [20:18]
Strategies for ethically blurring identities while keeping emotional truth [23:39]
How to turn editorial skills into sustainable platforms and community-building [32:41]
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/tvQahdqPctE
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Connect with Sari
Instagram: http://instagram.com/saribotton
Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/saribotton.bsky.social
Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/sari.botton/
Substack: https://substack.com/@saribotton
Website: http://saribotton.com
Webinars: Sign up for Estelle’s webinar on October 9th in collaboration with Writer’s Digest
Mapping Your Memoir: How to Find the Heart and Shape of Your Story
https://writersdigestuniversity.mykajabi.com/mapping-your-memoir
Sign up for Estelle’s free online Editor-on-call NYU event on October 29th Inside Slate: An Unfiltered Conversation with Senior Editor, Rebecca Onion.
Register here: https://events.nyu.edu/event/368190-editor-on-call-inside-slate-an-unfiltered
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Estelle Erasmus is an award-winning journalist, author of Writing That Gets Noticed (named a “Best Book for Writers” by Poets & Writers), and host of Freelance Writing Direct—2025 Podcast of the Year (Education), American Writing Awards. A Contributing Editor for Writer’s Digest and adjunct professor at NYU, her work has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, WIRED, PBS/Next Avenue, The Independent, and AARP: The Magazine. She’s served as editor-in-chief of five national magazines.
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