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October 23, 2024 58 mins

In this episode, Dr. Carol McMakin and Kim Pittis delve into a variety of topics related to Frequency Specific Microcurrent (FSM) and its applications. They discuss eye fatigue from excessive computer use, the impact of environmental changes on comfort, and specific FSM case studies, including a patient in Rome whose dura issues were treated successfully. 

The conversation also covers the connection between different body parts, the role of the dura versus fascia, and the importance of understanding underlying pathologies. Additional insights include the relationship between chewing, vagal tone, fascial principles, and the synergy of breath and balance. The episode emphasizes the value of creating a safe environment for healing and the interconnectedness of all bodily functions.

 

01:45 Patient Case Study: Dura Treatment

05:15 Understanding the Dura and Its Importance

09:51 Fascia vs. Dura: A Deeper Dive

18:13 Autoimmune Conditions and Vagal Tone

24:40 Inflammation and Pain Management

29:34 Vagus Nerve and Vocal Cord Treatment

32:49 The Cerebellum: A Dictator in the Body

33:55 The Interconnectedness of the Body

36:13 Creating a Safe Environment for Healing

37:19 FSM Sports to FSM Rehab: A Necessary Evolution

42:05 The Importance of Flexibility in Treatment

47:14 The Role of FSM in Various Medical Fields

55:30 Upcoming Events and Courses

 

In this fascinating exchange, we dive deep into the interconnectedness of the human body, and how various techniques and insights can lead to profound healing. We gathered insights from dedicated practitioners delving into the complexities of dural attachments, fascia interactions, and the significant role of the vagus nerve. Let's unwrap these concepts and explore how they contribute to improving overall well-being.

 

The Complex Symbiosis of Dura and Fascia

Understanding the intricate relationship between the dura and fascia is fundamental to appreciating how our bodies function and respond to treatment. The dura is akin to an invisible thread running from the head to the tailbone, affecting everything in its path. When the dura is tight or restricted, it can limit movement, as noted by the experience of a patient who could not bring their knee to their chest due to restrictions in the dura. This highlights the dura’s vital role and challenges us to consider how "soft tissue" like fascia responds to the deeper, less tangible, structures beneath it.

 

The Role of the Vagus Nerve

Our exploration wouldn't be complete without discussing the vagus nerve, often heralded as a gateway to wellness. Turning up the vagus nerve can have profound effects on the body, aiding in managing autoimmune responses, and contributing to overall health when appropriately activated. It's a crucial component in creating a state of balance, influencing not just our physical posture but impacting emotional and mental states as well. 

 

Breath, Balance, and the Body

The connection between breath and balance was a Eureka moment for many practitioners, revealing how the cerebellum (balance) and diaphragm (breath) share the same frequency. This synergy between breath and balance underscores the idea that treating one system without considering the others could limit therapeutic outcomes.

 

Rethinking Inflammation and Pain

Pain and inflammation are often misunderstood as inherently negative. However, like a guiding light, they inform us of deeper issues within the body. By addressing the root

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Eduardo and I worked on that person in Rome and the second

(00:26):
day after we got him out of pain and did all the things.
I took his knees up towards his
chest and they stopped at 90 degrees.
And then I explained to the class, Okay,
that means his dura is stuck, and watch what
happens when we do scarring in the dura.
I worked on his pelvis and external rotation and

(00:49):
scarring in the dura, and then looked up at his head,
and as I bent his knee, his head tipped back, but then
I looked at his face, You know how cranial bones move?
Yes.
When the anatomists say they don't, Yeah.
The craniosacral therapists say they do.

(01:13):
Yeah.
It was like, Eduardo, can you check his cranials?
Cause he's a cranial osteopath.
And he went, oh yeah.
So, he did the cranial.
And we had the patient do a valsalva to increase
intracranial pressure and stretch the cranial dura while

(01:36):
Eduardo worked on the suboccipital frame and magnum
connection of the dura and the brain and the spinal cord.
And then at the end of it, his face was a different shape.
His eyes.
We're clear and he walked.

(01:58):
We had to teach him to walk again because now his
door was not stuck to his tailbone and his head and
Eduardo said, of course, I'm coming to the advanced.
And I said, how would you like to do that?
Do an advanced hour long presentation on the Dura,

(02:24):
what it does, why we treat it, how we treat it.
Yeah.
And within 48 hours, Eduardo had done a
literature search on the Dura and all of the
things it does that I didn't even know existed.
It did.
Yeah.
And now on top of everything else at the Advanced, I'm like

(02:47):
totally geeked out for that one hour long presentation.
In addition to everybody else that's coming.
Yeah, let's unpack that because
you end up saying that a lot.
Because I feel like you drop these like packages, these
verbal packages, and then you're just like, here you go.

(03:09):
And I'm like, I don't know.
You're sitting here and you're watching me unpack this.
Okay.
Because if I'm trying to absorb it in real time, then
there's other people that are trying to absorb it.
And I think you take for granted your cranium
that is jam packed full of knowledge that
you're just like, oh yeah, it's just there.
And we're all trying to Saying what?

(03:31):
Huh?
Yeah.
Sorry.
And remember, we've got lay people listening.
So the dura is almost like the periosteum sort of love
affair that I had with FSM because I knew of the dura, but
I didn't care about the dura so much because I couldn't
touch the dura and I couldn't palpate the dura and I can't

(03:53):
contract the dura and I can't teach the dura to do anything,
but I'd respect that it was there just like the periosteum.
However, Once you can treat it, it's and it was
crazy because the dura frequencies were not in the
court Initially they were and it was an advanced
frequency However at one of the first court I was

(04:15):
at We were doing something with like spinal flexion
and somebody was like, oh, that's just the dura.
And I'm like, we can, what do you mean?
That's just the dura.
And you're like, not jumping out of your sneakers right now.
We can affect this.
And I was the person on the table flexing forward.
And I felt That was the first time I felt

(04:37):
the effects of FSM because I was that one
in that bell curve when we're holding hands.
I really want to feel something, but I don't.
And I experienced smush as a practitioner.
I could feel it, but when it was
on me, it was a bit of, um, yeah.

(04:58):
And I wanted to, yeah.
When the duro frequency was applied to me, all
I can say was In a word, it was like freedom.
My spine could flex in a way that was effortless.
And your hips could flex.

(05:20):
Everything.
My head could drop.
Because that's one of the things, too.
When we're looking at spinal flexion, for people in
flexion, if you have a yucky disc, flexion is usually yucky.
If you have icky facets, extension is icky.
But there's also the dura that is yucky.
a component in all of that.
And when the dura is tight, and I know the

(05:40):
cranial people will have a lot more to say about
this than me, my knowledge is very rudimentary.
You'll see the sacrum and the head
does, they don't want to move.
So like when people are dropping forward into
flexion, a lot of times with the dura, people
will go into cervical extension, not even knowing
why, because the dura goes from the head all the

(06:02):
way down to It attaches at the foramen magnum.
It's got a sturdy attachment at the foramen magnum and
then right behind your eyeballs, right behind the bridge
of your nose and then under the base of your skull.
Yes.
And it is basically in four parts around the brain and

(06:27):
then all the way down the spine attaching with little
ligaments that attach to each nerve root and then.
It's just inboard of the SI joints along
the sacrum and it attaches to the tailbone.
So, the patient's experience is,

(06:50):
I can't bring my knee to my chest.
And everybody says, Oh, whatever muscle
is tight, they think glutes right away.
Yeah.
Or so as, or hamstrings or what up glutes.
And the fact of the matter is that in order to bring

(07:11):
your knee to your chest, you have to take your sacrum
and your pelvis and take it with you towards your chest.
Yeah, sure.
Dura is stuck, tight, fibrosed, whatever.
Your cerebellum is not going to let you

(07:34):
flex your pelvis, and your knee won't go to
your chest because it'll pull on the dura.
So you press the patient's knee.
And it stops hard at 90 degrees, and if you
push it a little farther, and you pay attention,
the patient's head tips back about 5 degrees.

(07:55):
You push, and they go like that.
Push, they go like that.
It's a drop, because it's the only thing that
connects the sacrum to the base of the skull.
Where do you think Sasha gets involved in that equation?
With all apologies.

(08:15):
Abject apologies to John Sharkey.
The FASA is a passenger on the bus.
The fascia is innervated, and the fascia,
I think, my experience of the fascia, is
that it responds to underlying pathologies.

(08:40):
I'd agree with you.
Because the fascia is innervated.
Where do the nerves come from?
The brain.
And what controls the nerves?
The cerebellum.
Is the cerebellum going to let vital
tissue be injured by stretching?

(09:03):
No.
So, if you release the dura, all of a sudden the
fascia responds instantly and becomes looser.
The fascia is never a restricted experience.
We treat the fascia when we do the supine cervical
practicum, treat all the underlying the facets,

(09:25):
the discs, the ligaments, and at the very end.
For the people that think the fascia does something,
we do hardening the fascia and scarring the fascia,
and 100 percent of the time, nothing happens.
We do increased secretions in the
fascia, and the neck gets smushy, which

(09:51):
is confusing to me, but increasing secretions
in the fascia makes everything soft.
I think, underlying causation and with the
knees and the neck, it's always the dura.
And Eduardo sent me all these articles that

(10:11):
I speed read about what the dura is actually,
the dura, the pia and the arachnoid, and
they're all together and forming the meninges.
Yeah.
They, especially the arachnoid, drains, recirculates

(10:33):
the spinal fluid, and if there's scarring in the dura,
adhesions in the dura, gunk in the arachnoid, the lymphatics
or glymphatics In the brain, the spinal cord, you don't
get good circulation of spinal fluid and detoxification

(10:56):
in the brain, the spine, the spinal fluid, and all of
the things, and I didn't know that a week and a half ago
until Eduardo sent me the papers, and now it's, oh, goody!
So my brain is about to explode in the back of my
office right now, because This might make sense why

(11:21):
congestion in the dura works.
Yes,
and treating the arachnoid,
which I never make a big deal of.
I know.
Because I always treat the dura
because it includes everything.
Yeah.
But arachnoiditis.

(11:41):
is an infection and inflammation and scarring in the
arachnoid that's caused by usually infection and that's
something we can treat nobody else can treat it and for
us it's just scarring in the arachnoid it's not that hard.

(12:02):
Say
that out loud again for the people.
I do and there's no lightning or anything.
I don't get it.
It's a sunny day.
Yeah.
I was just thinking about something as they
were talking about the fascia versus the dura
because I do have a newfound respect for fascia.

(12:24):
I was not a fascia trained person.
Fascia was what we cut away to get at
the good stuff with our anatomy labs.
Very biomechanically trained.
I believe in levers.
I believe in fulcrums.
I believe in tendon length and insertion.
Um, that is my belief system.
However, I am open to learning and

(12:44):
I do like the fascial principles.
I, we're learning a lot more about fascia's innervation,
its ability to become tensile, explains a lot, and
how you mentioned the fascia not being the culprit.
Yes, we treat it, but I remember being at a hockey
workshop Years ago, probably pushing 20 years ago and

(13:08):
one of my favorite people were presenting and they were
talking about the adductor muscles and because it was
a hockey workshop, it was all about hockey players and
chronic groin holes and strains and we were breaking
down the anatomy and they had brought up gracilis and
gracilis is this really flat, weird, thin adductor.

(13:28):
And one of the doctors was saying, now gracilis is
one of the biggest jerks in the whole upper leg.
And I'm like, yeah, why is it a jerk?
Remind me.
Cause I don't like it, but I don't know why I don't like it.
Well, it's such a little muscle.
It's such a little muscle.
So he said, it will never cause the
problem, but it will hold the problem.

(13:51):
And I've never forgotten that voice.
And I think of the fascia almost as the same way.
So the fascia is never causing the problem.
Just the muscle is never causing the problem.
And I know that's hard for manual therapists and
PTs and trainers, because that's all we think is
that's where our problem is being caused from.

(14:13):
But if you can just table that thought, From
the side and think, what is this reacting to?
Until you have a way of treating the underlying
cause, you think the muscle is the problem
because the muscle is what you can feel.
Right.
And I started out as a fashionista.

(14:36):
Right.
I started out as a myofascial therapist
doing manual trigger point work in 1980.
Nine?
Ninety?
I was still in school and did ischemic compression,
and that's the way I taught and treated with FSM

(14:58):
for probably seven years we treated the muscle.
And then I found out that if we treated the
facets and the discs, so the current supine
cervical practicum evolved over eight years.
And November 1st, I, I have a chapter due for the update

(15:26):
of the 3rd edition of the trigger point manual and.
I talked to David Simon's, um, editor, the, his
daughter, and I explained, we treat the underlying
cause, and she looked at me like I had three heads,

(15:46):
and she said, you have to publish this someplace.
You can put it in the trigger point manual, but you have
to write it up and put it in the journal hypothesis.
Get it out there because nobody else thinks this
way because nobody else has a way of treating the

(16:07):
underlying pathology and So that's on my to do list.
Don't you think, I really have been
thinking about this a lot since Dr.
Musnick was on recently when you were gone.
He was my guest and we were talking
a lot about autoimmune conditions.
And to not get, there are so many takeaways that he

(16:29):
had, but one of them was all the underlying conditions.
Why is this expressing itself right now?
Who cares that you have an autoimmune disease?
Why is this showing up right now?
And I remember just wanting to stop.
Stop him at that moment and be like,
did everybody just listen to that?
And could everybody, it doesn't matter if it's autoimmune

(16:51):
or what segment of medicine, but just everything.
If we could just pause for a second with the
assessment or look at the assessment or your
exam or however your practice model works.
And then just say, yes, their pelvis is this and their
facets are this, and they're showing up like this, but why?

(17:11):
And then that assessment takes you to,
and that's why your first meetings with
people are hours long and not minutes long.
Because, You have to completely
reverse the way they look at the world.
In my world, autoimmune conditions, there is no way to

(17:32):
have an autoimmune disease if your vagus nerve is working.
Yeah.
The start is always What turned the vagus down?
Infection, stress, or trauma?
And you go back, and within one to three months
prior to the onset of the first autoimmune

(17:53):
flare up, there is infection, stress, or trauma.
It's never not there.
And I wouldn't have come to that unless
we had the ability to turn the vagus on.
Or up.
Turn it up.
And, in order to turn it up, you have to

(18:15):
use the frequencies for what turned it down.
Yeah.
So, I got this, uh, leaky gut, autoimmune, whatever, and in
November.

(18:38):
What happened in June?
I got COVID in September, or I got vaccinated for
COVID in September, and vaccinations are artificial
infections, which are useful if you do that sort of thing.
So they're artificial infections.
So your immune system gets alerted to the

(18:59):
presence of this virus and detects it.
So whether it's an actual infection or an
artificial infection, stress and trauma, it's it.
And then you have to treat the downstream stuff.
The joint inflammation, or the scleroderma, or
the asthma, or the whatever, rheumatoid arthritis.

(19:25):
You still have to deal with the tissue injury
that's created by the immune system deciding
that your joint capsule belongs to somebody else.
But in order to turn off the autoimmune condition, you have
to fix the leaky gut, and you have to turn the vagus on.

(19:47):
And unless you have a tool that lets
you do that, You'd never figure it out.
No.
Has your stance on vagal tone, or who gets
to turn their vagus up changed at all.
I remember when we first started talking all this was

(20:11):
probably a couple years ago, there would be instances where
you would say maybe in that like your police officers,
or there would be a couple different demographics where
you'd say, maybe we don't want to turn or mess with their
or manipulate or, address their vagus nerve right now.

(20:31):
If somebody has an active infection,
then you want the vagus quiet.
Yes.
And the fact of the matter is that if you, I had a
little reality check, if We use our protocol to turn

(20:54):
the vagus up and the patient has an active infection.
The midbrain will turn the vagus down
faster and stronger than we can turn it up.
So I'm not quite so worried about it as I used to be.
Yeah, football players.

(21:14):
There's data and I'm sure for hockey players to the data.
I know about his football players
at the end of a three hour game.
They have leaky gut.
The stress levels are so high.
Their cortisol goes so high that the gut leaks.
by the end of the game.

(21:35):
So what do you do with a football player?
He's got partial thickness tendon tears, he's
got bruises, he's got whatever, injuries.
So there is stress, there's trauma.
I would still, for a football player, Treat

(22:00):
that night, leaky gut, and turn on the Vegas.
Now, if the body needs inflammation,
it'll turn the Vegas back down.
But it won't hurt to have it turned for a couple of hours.

(22:20):
Just to give everybody a rest.
Yes.
Just Yes.
Yeah.
Someone knit my Vegas a sweater.
And give it some ease, and give everybody a bit of a rest.
Just exhale, just for a couple hours.
Yeah.
And then inflammation, I don't

(22:42):
even treat, remember 40 and 116?
Yeah.
We have the mouse research, and that's really good data.
Yeah.
I hardly treat that on myself anymore, and even on patients.
Because if You turn the Vegas on, I let the

(23:02):
Vegas decide how much inflammation I need.
I do love that idea a lot, and I do hear your
voice saying that to me, and I love that voice.
It does a lot of helpful things to me.
But that, I do trust that, and as everybody who
has listened to me talk in the sports courses about

(23:24):
using heat, the doctor that coined the term rice.
Breast ice compression elevation has come out to say, I was
wrong, shouldn't be icing so much, because we are inhibiting
that inflammatory response that can be very helpful.
So, yes, inflammation can get out of control,
but we do need some inflammation there.

(23:46):
That's where healing takes place.
So I hate it when and we talk about
inflammation is like this hot word.
If you just do hashtag inflammation on any social
media, like everything pops up, I'll have people
that are like, Oh, I'm just so inflamed athletes.
I'm so inflamed all the time.
What does that mean to you?

(24:07):
That's the question.
Yeah, or how much does this inflammation bother you?
So we'll go back to vagal tone in a second, but
if we have somebody that's coming off of injury,
and I like that sweet spot where they're done
with PT, but they're not quite back to 100%.
And they still need attention.

(24:28):
And so people will say, After I run, my knee gets inflamed.
Okay, you had a bucket handle repair done on your meniscus.
I would expect you to have a little bit of
inflammation after a 10 mile run for a while.
And if it's there your whole life, does it
matter if it goes away in a couple hours?

(24:50):
I guess not.
That's a good question.
I think for the practitioners that are
listening, when you hear somebody saying, this
is always inflamed to use that word on path,
go back and say, how, how inflamed does it get?
Take a picture and show me, take a measurement and show me.
And how long does it last for?

(25:11):
Oh, only an hour.
Your body did a great job of reabsorbing that again.
And was it sore the next day?
No.
And could you run the next day?
Yes.
Yay!
This is nothing to get too concerned about.
There's a reason for it.
Yeah, it's just like pain, right?
Where would we be in a world without,

(25:31):
we need pain to tell us things.
And it's out of control that we have to manage things.
And sometimes people use the word, I'm
inflamed, when what they mean is I hurt.
Correct.
And I hurt

(25:55):
in our world is sometimes 124.
Yes, our new repair and heal.
Repair and heal.
There's a strain in the tendon that goes to that joint
and that makes the muscle sore and muscles not inflamed.
It's.

(26:16):
Yes.
Because the tendon is injured.
Let's repair the tendon
and let's repair the tendon and
see what happens to your comfort.
Do we have questions already?

(26:37):
Yeah.
Who's whoever TM is.
Okay.
That's so amazing exactly what is going on about turning
up the vagus nerve, but it is an amazing thing to watch.
That's the truth.
I would have been afraid if it was not from so
much study with you and FSM about the vagus nerve.

(26:57):
That must be why FSM works.
I ran all the programs on our new custom care,
but it didn't feel like knitting a sweater.
It was a scary experience, but
after his throat was quivering,
that's the other thing is that it's, yeah,
this is Teresa from Vienna, had a patient

(27:18):
yesterday whose voice was high pitched and tight.
Her vocal cords were tight and they
told her that it was from reflux.
And she also had a bit of gastroparesis,
and leaky gut, and tons of allergies.

(27:40):
Like food allergies, environmental
allergies, all sorts of things.
And treated, so she said, I have dysphonia.
And as I treated her vagus, and She coordinated it with the
two times she had COVID and the two times she had vaccines,

(28:05):
and then, and GERD, and as I treated her, and then GERD
actually does, the acid fumes injure the vocal cords.
So, As I treated her vagus, treated scarring
in the vagus, she fell asleep, and then treated

(28:29):
fibrosis and inflammation in the vocal cords,
and her voice dropped a register, like a third.
For the musicians in the group.
And she said she didn't have to strain to talk.
The vagus is also connected to the diaphragm.

(28:51):
There's a nucleus in the spinal cord, vagal nucleus
from the pharynx to the nuclei in the spinal
cord for C3, 4, and 5 that operate the diaphragm.
And they all work together.

(29:12):
So in order to talk, the vagus has to work.
And those three nerves have to work to push the
diaphragm up to push the air out so you can talk.
And at the end of 30 minutes, her
voice was noticeably different.

(29:32):
I had to ask her husband, I'm not hallucinating this, right?
She sounds different?
He said, Oh, yeah.
Okay.
That's amazing.
So one of the other One of the most amazing
moments I had is the day I realized that the
cerebellum and the diaphragm are the same frequency.

(29:56):
What's up with that?
It's my like, core belief that breath
and balance are always synergistic.
Oh!
The fact that the frequency gods have also
put that together just validates me so much.
See I just pretended that 84 was not the frequency for the

(30:16):
diaphragm, because it didn't make any sense to me, but okay.
All the sense in the world, that breath and balance.
It's, it's synergistic.
Mm hmm.
That makes sense.
And explaining to somebody that the cerebellum is a tyrant.
It is a dictator.
It does not notify, doesn't tell you why

(30:39):
it's doing what it's doing, has no need to
explain, and it also does not negotiate.
Yeah.
You can do whatever you want.
You can stretch forever.
You can dig forever.
And I will not.
Relax the psoas until you release the

(30:59):
ureter from the front of the psoas.
It's just, it's not negotiable.
So for 30 years, she's been stretching the
psoas, and her pelvis has been cattywampus,
and she had a history of bladder infections
from the age of 3 until she was 20, on and off.

(31:23):
So we did scarring in the ureter, her back pain
went away, her pelvis worked completely differently,
And then she had asthma too, so we worked from
the QLs to the diaphragm to the inner costals,
which I think might sound familiar to you.
This does sound like a familiar treatment.

(31:45):
Until you can do it, there's no reason you
would think of them as being connected.
No, but that is where you have to follow
what you feel and follow what changes.
I think at one of the advanced, it was like
the tagline was like, follow the spark.
And I always think about that too, is just this spark that's

(32:10):
going through someone's body, and it is that flexibility
of mind, as you put it, to be able to have a starting
point that's based on your skills and your assessment.
And follow it to where it takes you, and to question, okay,
what is beside this, and how did it get into this state,

(32:34):
what could have happened before, and using your assessment
with their story is what helps expedite that process.
And sometimes you take a crazy
turn that you wouldn't expect.
Now what are the muscles trying to protect?
Yes.
The body has a logic.

(32:54):
Yes.
It's the fact that sometimes the
body's logic makes things worse.
We're tightening the muscles
because the facets are irritated.
The fact that tightening the
muscles compresses the discs more.
Yes, it protects them, but it also makes them worse.
I'm really sorry.

(33:14):
It's cost of doing business.
And when you have the ability to treat the
cause, at least that's what I think we're doing.
That's the frequencies we use.
Inflammation in the cartilage, periosteum.

(33:35):
And all of a sudden the muscles
over the C1, 4 facets just get soft.
And again, this kind of goes back to my core hope for people
that I get to work with is to create a safe environment.

(33:56):
that allows movement to occur.
That is my hope and my wish and my prayer
for every single person that I work with.
And that means bigger things or smaller things
to certain people, but that safe environment
isn't the pretty room and the smile on your face.
It's creating an atmosphere, a condition, for the
body to give you the information to say what is tight?

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Why is this protecting?
Why is in the muscle world?
We'll call it splinting.
Why is this muscle splinting?
What is offline or what is inhibited?
And then using that information and then
thinking to yourself, okay, if this muscle
went back online, What would that create?
And what would that cause?
Because it's not going down to your panel box and just

(34:41):
putting on a breaker and then everything just pops up and
the lights are on and everybody goes on their merry way.
No, it's, there's so much that gets affected with that.
And that's why the FSM sports became FSM rehab.
So in November, we have a two day

(35:03):
practicum for people who've taken the core.
Online, and we actually do as many, I think,
online courses as we do in person courses.
So the two day practicum, and then we've
got the two day rehab afterwards because,

(35:25):
okay, we bring the muscles back online.
They're now relaxed, but they're weak.
They're not coordinated.
They're not entirely sure where they are in space.
Now what do we do?
And for me, I do the big download dump in the
core, but that's what the rehab course is.

(35:50):
It's so essential.
So, for people that are listening, think about
spending, it's Monday and Tuesday, isn't it?
Monday and Tuesday in November with you,
and it's walking, taking a plate out of the

(36:10):
cupboard, taking a quart of milk out of the
refrigerator, putting a pot of water on the stove.
That is a sport.
Yes.
That is your life.
And so that's why we changed the name.
Because not everybody treats athletes, but somebody that's

(36:32):
doing their dishes at night, fixing dinner, and vacuuming
the floor, and making the bed, that is their sport.
And it is time that we did change the name.
I know Kevin was really brilliant a couple of years ago by
saying like life is a sport and it's true, but I get it.
A lot of people don't consider themselves as athletes

(36:54):
or they don't see it, quote unquote, athletic
population, but getting in and out of your car.
Is an activity that you need patterning or repatterning
to help you with because what we do in the clinic is so
profound and it is so fast, we can never expect somebody

(37:15):
to or their nervous system to catch up with that.
I am very grateful that we'll be changing the
name to And we can sports course for the sports
advanced is going to be still all sporty and fun.
So I get to geek out still, but yeah, it's
been a great journey putting it together.
And I think it's the story after the story.

(37:38):
So you get all this, we talk about all
the miracles that happen in the clinic.
And I still feel bad about this.
When John Sharkey came and he had somebody
up on stage that had very limited shoulder.
abduction and he did some stuff and corrections and she
got her arm up over her head and everyone like clapping
like he was a rock star and then we we went out for lunch

(37:58):
after and he's got his group of 40 people with him and he
says Kim you never said much about what we did with her
shoulder and I said let's see how it is tomorrow otherwise
it's just a party trick and everybody was like And I didn't
mean disrespect because I have done that in the clinic

(38:20):
too, where I've stuck my thumb so far up into somebody's
subscap and got their arm up, but the next day they're right
back to where they started that to me is not a success.
This is the week later, the month later, six months later
that said, Hey, we've, we fixed it and it stayed gone.
And that's.

(38:42):
The sports rehab course is how we can close the case.
And to think of the shoulder as a region, for
example, because of the lats, when you change the
shoulder, you change the low back and the pelvis.
Yes.
And then you go through the anatomy

(39:04):
and then when you see it in the clinic.
So I treated the patient's shoulder and then the next
week he came in and his right hip was bothering him.
Yeah.
Well, because his lat now moves, and
his hip has to do something different.
Oh.
Everything is connected to everything.

(39:26):
I had this moment personally a couple days ago.
Anybody who's following me on Instagram knows I'm posting
daily as I'm getting ready for my next half marathon race.
So I thought it would be good to post every day to
see all the stuff that goes into training for a race.
Because I, we live in this kind of glamorous.
Insta Society where we just see the snapshots

(39:47):
of the beautiful kitchen and a beautiful
dinner and not the meltdown that happened
at Safeway because you Forgot the onions.
So I want to show people the meltdown about
the onions So I've been running and everything
and the other day my upper cervicals were out.
I felt that they were out It's probably because all
the computer stuff I'm doing I have this eye strain
and then yesterday So I'm feeling all this upper

(40:09):
cervical on my right, and then yesterday I finished my
run, and my posterior tib was on fire on my left leg.
And I'm like, ugh, of course, because my neck was sore.
And one of the people in the clinic was like,
how did you just put that to your left lower leg?
Messed up because your upper right cervicals.

(40:30):
I'm like, yeah, because it's just all connected.
I have it all lined.
Again, it's not just biomechanical levers.
Everything is connected to everything and we make things
very complicated, but if you can at least have the
starting point of everything is connected to everything,
I think we've done a decent job of instructing people.

(40:52):
I don't know.
As long as you don't get attached to your starting point.
Exactly.
And that's where that flexibility of mind comes in.
And that's hard for us type A planners because I've now
gotten into the habit of, you know, Looking at who I'm
seeing the day before and planning out their exercises or

(41:14):
I'm getting and I formulate an idea of what I want to do
and I've realized it's just a total waste of time because
you have no way, you may think you know what's going to
walk into your clinic and you've seen this person three
times a week for the last six weeks, but you just have to
be flexible with Um, I never say back steps, and I hate

(41:37):
when people are like, Oh, I took a giant step backwards.
No, it's never a backward step.
Maybe a lateral step.
Maybe the step up was a bit smaller than you thought.
How about thinking about it as a response?
Hmm.
It's, you do this, and that happens,
and the response tells you something.

(41:59):
It's not a backstep.
It's not even a side effect.
It's information.
Yes.
Because this caused that, but why did it cause that?
And at least that's how my brain works.
No, I, I will credit all of the FSM training for thinking

(42:20):
why, and it's philosophy that spans across every profession,
whether it's dentistry, learning from Mary Ellen Chalmers
about, I'll never forget, like thinking, why would I go
watch, listen to a dentist talk, but ah, whatever, I don't
feel like going to my room and might as well just go.
And.

(42:41):
And just being mind blown when she was talking
about mouth inflammation and how it robs energy from
fighting other sources of infection or inflammation
and everything is connected to everything and the
trigeminal nerve and how the teeth, the one that

(43:01):
blew me away is that the ligaments in the teeth.
When you chew, affect the hippocampus and memory.
They have data that says people that have

(43:22):
dentures end up with memory problems.
And the connection is the ligaments in the teeth have
an effect on the midbrain and the hippocampus and
that particular part of memory and memory processing.

(43:48):
And so it adds a question that you ask a patient
who presents with early cognitive decline.
And, I mean, we're looking at leaky gut, we're looking
at brain inflammation, we're looking at the vagus.
In my life, I would never have thought

(44:11):
to ask the patient, Do you have dentures?
No.
At least not for that.
Maybe you're thinking, I don't even know actually.
Why would I?
Without that little factoid?
Okay.
Who knew?
Who knew?
We have such an incredible resource group

(44:35):
in the UPSM community because FSM is a
tool that so many professions can use.
I, I am so grateful all the time when I stumble
across something that I have no idea what it is,
or of course you can Google it, but the fact that
I have this resource bank that I can email or

(44:58):
text people and who are brilliant in their field.
I feel so grateful that they respond, not even
within that day, but typically within a few seconds.
It's a family that we have in our
world that I am so grateful for.
So if there's some imaging that I
don't understand, I can talk to you.
If there's some sort of drug or

(45:20):
side effect, we've got the Dr.
Birx and Catholese on speed dial.
Um, Dr.
Sosnowski, like I am eternally grateful for their help.
Because, yes, maybe I can't prescribe something, or maybe
I can't treat something, but at least it's giving me this
insight to, okay, if this is affected, then that's affected.

(45:41):
If that's affected, then that's affected.
This is going to be affected and it helps put together
that comprehensive picture that I, going back to
the beginning of what we're talking about, I think
it's really missing in our medical model right now.
Yeah, we're just really lucky with the
community that has evolved in the FSM world.

(46:03):
Yes, it's everything from massage therapists
to PM and R to athletic trainers to.
naturopaths, to dentists, to what, I
don't know any other technique that has

(46:26):
that many medical or clinical applications.
Right.
So we have a cranial osteopath that's going to
educate us on what the dura does to make your
brain work better as long as you've got the dura
stretchy and doing what it's supposed to do.
Excuse me?
And then, uh, Patrick Wood is a

(46:53):
neuropsychopharmacologist.
He's an MD.
And we had a practitioner who ran 40 and 89
for three hours one day and it felt so good.
She did it for a second day for three hours.
Then she did it for a third day for three hours.

(47:16):
Then she ran it for 18 hours.
She ran it three hours a day for six days.
At the end of six days, she had full body pain,
brain fog, cognitive decline, couldn't think
straight, she was a mess, and I had no idea why.

(47:37):
And Dr.
Wood said, oh, this is why.
I said, would you mind doing an hour
on what the midbrain actually does?
And almost always, 40 and 89 for 30
minutes makes everybody's world better.
I would never in my wildest dreams have imagined what

(48:01):
would happen if you ran 40 in 89 for uh, 18 hours.
Why would anybody do that?
It felt so good I just did it again.
And then the wheels came off.
Until you have a tool that lets you manipulate it directly,

(48:23):
you don't have a way to know what your limits are.
So I'm hoping that Dr.
Wood can still, that he's going to come.
I have to have room for everybody.
So now the people that thought they were doing
90 minute lectures are now doing 60 minute
lectures because I have two additional speakers.
Yeah, it's like watching a Tetris game

(48:44):
of just moving the blocks and the people.
And I'm glad you don't have two separate tracks anymore
because we're really not two separate tracks anymore.
Everything is connected to everything
and everybody is connected to everybody.
So we have to see everybody's stuff.
Physical medicine is neurology.
Physical medicine is the gut.

(49:05):
Yeah.
GI medicine has to do, is there any way to
fix the gut without getting the psoas and the
quadratus lumborum to work right so you breathe
right so the vagus isn't glued to the gut?
It's bringing just a whole new appreciation to
how connected everything is and it it's hard
especially when we're really Myopically trained.

(49:29):
We can't add a day or two to the advanced lead.
We'd be in Phoenix for a month.
Yeah, and it's like the core actually
needs to be six days and I can't do it.
I refuse to be the guy that makes you take two or
three day modules before you are competent and turning.
I just won't do that.

(49:50):
I just know I'll overwhelm you.
And then you go home and study on your own and
let FSM responses teach you what you need to know.
Cause that's how you really learn is go swim.
Yeah, you're floaties and you'll be floaties just fine.
Start with this.

(50:10):
This is the easy stuff and then you'll learn.
Yeah.
And you have us every Wednesday.
It's so much fun!
We're almost out of time, actually.
We did that again.
Oh, this is, wait a minute.
We have Louise.
Thank you, Louise.
To your faithful followers, thank you.
Endless strand of pearls, on and on.

(50:32):
These one hour Wednesdays spend, you're
such an inspiring full of awe, wow moments.
Awe!
You're welcome!
I'm going to say freebies.
Pearls.
Okay, next week we have to wear pearls.
Do you have pearls?
I can send you some.
Okay, good.
We'll wear pearls next week.
Thank you, Louise.
Chewing on a specific food, we get flashbacks

(50:53):
of our childhood while chewing on the food.
Oh, I disliked it when we had to
make a choice between two rooms.
Oh yeah, that's a thing.
I wanted to talk quickly about the chewing
thing, but Jen, I don't know if you have
had a chance to watch my Interviews with Dr.
Mesnik and Sosnowski, they're so much fun.

(51:13):
Yes.
Jen was going to talk about some autoimmune and autism
and some other things and we just, it was just sleep
apnea the whole time because it was just so important.
And she was talking about the jaw.
And one of the causes of an increased amount of sleep
apnea is palate changes due to these underdeveloped jaw

(51:33):
muscles because we're not chewing hard enough food anymore.
So she was bringing up data like, and
she really Made a lot of sense, right?
We were smoothies and yogurts
and we overcook our vegetables.
We're not chewing on hard, raw vegetables and tough
meat and all the things that we were designed to do.

(51:57):
Wow.
Yeah, I know.
And that just.
Took me back to Mary Ellen and the ligaments and the brain.
Yes!
So when you were saying that, that's
when I went back to Jen's whole part.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that means I have to find an

(52:17):
hour someplace to put Jen Cisnowski?
You might.
Oh, right.
The advanced is Gonna be fun.
You look at your little map, your schematic of March.
The nice thing is that this year we have
basically four days, because we have two days
of the advanced and two days of the symposium.

(52:40):
And I need case reports, you guys,
because we learn from each other.
The One of the things I did yesterday was treat,
treating somebody who said she had very dense
breasts and it's, we have a published paper on that.

(53:02):
I can do that.
So you treat fibrosis and oxalates
and scar tissue in the mammary glands.
And her breast tissue completely changed.
Like completely, and I said, you have to feel

(53:27):
this because is it doing what she said, how, what,
and the nice thing is it'll stay that way, but we
learn from each other because I teach what I know,
but we have thousands of practitioners and each

(53:47):
practitioner has experiences and treats patients
and types of patients that I will never see.
And so the case reports are the most
important part of the symposium.
It's wonderful to have Julianna Mortenson in it.
It's wonderful to have Jim Oshman in it.
That's all good.

(54:09):
Yeah.
But the case reports are, to me, the
most important part of the symposium.
And there's no place to put them in the advanced.
So, there will be an email coming out soon,
on a regular basis, I'm looking over at Kevin,
to remind everybody that it's important.
20 slides.
You can do that.

(54:31):
You can do that.
And what you take for granted.
I just did this and this.
I think that's a big part.
What you take for granted because we all want to hear and
if anything, maybe it's not anything new, but it validates.
Yes.
Okay.
I have been doing that.
I am on the right track.
I got alarms going.
It's 402.

(54:52):
It's four o'clock already.
Wow.
It may or may not be here next week.
I may be away, but I will let
you know and I will do my best.
We're not here next week.
Oh, we're not here next week because
we are doing a core next week.
Wednesday to Sunday.
We've got 18, 20, something like that.

(55:14):
Yeah, 16 or 17.
Yeah, it's 16, 17.
It's nice manageable class.
Yes, that's great.
Yeah.
Oh, and by the way, anybody that's thinking
about signing up for December, one of the table
side assistants is going to be Dave Burke.
I'm just saying.
So you're going to want to be there.
Just.

(55:35):
Sam.
And come visit us in Troutdale in November.
So go take two days with Dr.
Carroll and then come hang out for two days with
me and it'll be that facility is just beautiful.
You want to be there.
So yeah, you're on the fence.
This is the time to come.
And the FSM rehab really is an

(55:57):
essential sort of follow up to the core.
It's one thing to know how to make the neck
go smushy and the shoulder go smushy and
the low back And the viscera go smushy.
That's a start that relaxes the muscles that
were tight, but they're weak and uncoordinated.

(56:19):
And I don't have time tell you how to get them coordinated
and stronger and what exercises to do and where to start.
I know more about that than I will ever know.
So the rehab part is the natural follow up and it gives
you a basis in knowledge about how to get the patient from

(56:46):
better to better.
And on that, it's time to go.
It's time to go.
So we won't see you guys next
week, we'll be back the week after.
Two weeks.
Yes, and then when we're together in
Troutdale, we can do it together live.
It'll be so much fun.
Yay.

(57:06):
Alright everybody, we'll see you in two weeks.
See you in two weeks.
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