November 20, 2024 • 56 mins
In this episode, Dr. Carol and Kim Pittis discuss the benefits and experiences of Frequency Specific Microcurrent (FSM) therapy, including protocols for immune support and the role of the vagus nerve. They share personal stories of treatment successes and delve into the details of their visits to Costa Rica, including an inspiring stay at the Anamaya yoga retreat center.
The episode also covers various medical topics such as the treatment of autoimmune conditions, high ankle sprains, dementia-related anxiety, and the importance of sleep. They also touch on the importance of pattern recognition in medical practice and maintaining a positive mindset during recovery.
01:51 Yoga Retreat in Costa Rica
06:19 Immune Support Protocols
09:08 Vagal Nerve Stimulation and Research
10:21 FSM Symposium Highlights
13:45 Immune System and Autoimmune Conditions
20:18 Case Study: Transformative Healing
25:42 Understanding Reflex Testing
26:16 Understanding Reflexes and Spinal Cord Inflammation
27:23 Upper and Lower Reflexes Explained
28:48 Case Study: Predicting MRI Results
30:04 Managing Chronic Tightness and Pain
31:38 The Power of Hypnosis in Clinical Practice
32:15 Reframing Patient Identity and Goals
35:02 The Role of the Reformer in Rehabilitation
44:10 Treating High Ankle Sprains
47:35 Addressing Dementia and Aggression
TOPIC SUMMARIES
In our quest for optimal health, various therapies and approaches offer unique pathways to well-being. One such innovative therapy is Frequency Specific Microcurrent (FSM), a fascinating method that uses specific frequencies to enhance health and wellness across different conditions. Whether it's strengthening the immune system or aiding in physical and emotional recovery, FSM provides a versatile resource for health maintenance.
Harnessing FSM for Immune Support
As the seasons change, so do our health needs. FSM offers specific protocols that might provide added support during times like cold and flu seasons. By incorporating FSM into regular routines, individuals—particularly athletes, who often face challenges in maintaining robust immune systems during intense seasons—can potentially bolster their defenses. Emphasizing the significance of quality sleep, combined with FSM application, is crucial in supporting immune health and overall well-being.
Transformative Patient Experiences with FSM
FSM's true impact shines in the personal stories of healing and transformation. For many, FSM has provided relief from chronic issues, restoring a quality of life they feared lost. By addressing deep-seated pain and mobility limitations, FSM enables individuals to regain confidence in their bodies. These stories are testament to FSM’s ability to address complex health challenges and renew hope for lasting recovery.
Understanding Reflexes and Nervous System Health
The science behind FSM involves intricate knowledge of our body's reflexes and the nervous system. Understanding these connections allows for precision in using FSM to treat neurological and musculoskeletal concerns. Reflex assessments inform treatment plans, guiding the application of specific frequencies to enhance healing and function. This precision helps in targeting treatment effectively, enhancing both practitioner and patient engagement with the healing process.
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There she is.
And there you are.
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Hello.
Hi.
How are ya?
I'm good.
I missed you.
I missed you too.
You know how you have road signs here that
say Deere Crossing and Things like that.
The road signs in Costa Rica were sloths,
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three foot long iguanas, and deer.
And that's what you had to be careful was
crossing the road in front of your car.
It was 80 degrees.
And it's still the rainy season, so they
had drizzle, and then downpours, and then
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sun, all in the space of an hour or two.
And, but it was still 80 degrees.
When it drizzles and downpours in Portland, it's 47 degrees.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Yay!
They have blue butterflies.
I have my butterfly picture in the back.
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Butterflies are extremely symbolic for me, so
I would have loved to see big blue butterflies.
I brought, it's downstairs and
now I can't leave and go get it.
It's, I got a blue butterfly in a glass frame.
Wow.
You can bring it for show and tell next week.
Okay.
I will bring it for show until next week.
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So what did you do in Costa Rica?
Let's hear all about it.
I went to visit Anamaya, which is a yoga retreat center.
Joseph Mikrut, I think I'm pronouncing his
name right, invited us to do a course seminar.
He read The Resonance Effect.
Said we should offer this as a therapy at Anamaya.
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And Anamaya is a yoga retreat center.
It sleeps 32.
It started out as somebody's house.
And then over the last 15 years, these guys
have built, Joseph and his business partner
have built sleeping room cottages, the Down the
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side of the hill until there's sleeping room
for 32 people and then two teaching room spaces.
And it's just gorgeous.
There's every place you look in
Costa Rica, there's It's art.
They, if there's a blank wall, they paint
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flowers or leaves or something on it.
The trees, everything is green, everything, it's
flowers, there's, it's, anyway, so we are doing art.
The core, their yoga pattern is you check in on
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Saturday, you start the course Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
you take Wednesday off to go surfing or swimming
or just lay about or get a massage or do whatever.
Then you finish up Thursday,
Friday, then you leave Saturday.
So we talked about how to structure that.
And I said, that's it.
What if we booked Anamaya for two weeks, so we'd
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take the Saturday, and then maybe we could do an FSM
rehab course on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and then
maybe we could take Wednesday off and do a master
class Thursday, Friday, and then leave on Saturday.
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And half, so half of the sleeping room spaces
are already booked for that second week.
But the sports or the rehab and the
master class are usually smaller.
So I said, okay, what if we had just 15
or 16 of the rooms instead of all 32?
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And so we have to work that out.
And I told him I'd check with you and see if
you'd like to come down and visit Paradise.
It's Yeah.
The job of posting on social media, which was
making everybody feel like they were there.
It won't take much convincing to get me to come.
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The roads are really pretty awful in certain areas.
And then, but then the road from Montezuma to
Liberia airport, it's a three and a half hour
drive, but it's all in paved road with no.
That part was good.
And, yeah.
It's I like how you always bring us back
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to the positive piece of everything.
That was good.
That's positive.
That was good.
Yeah, the, yeah.
It was, there's just no words.
This, so there's Artisans along the street, they just
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set up their little tables and this is carved jade.
Wow.
Yeah.
And it's just, it feels good when I wear it.
So I put that on today.
It looks good.
Yeah.
Not like it looks stylish, but it looks like good, powerful.
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Yeah.
That's what it feels like.
It's good.
Powerful.
Good.
Sometimes powerful can feel scary or it could feel, but
that is, I want to talk about feelings today a little
bit, actually, but we can circumvent all of that and in
a little bit, there's so many questions that came in to
me over the last little while that I've put off until I
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could talk to you about it, because it has more to do with.
Non sporty things, but as we talk about
everything is connected to everything.
I'd like to go to a list a little bit at some point today.
Go for it.
So one of the first things as we are entering cold and
flu season into the fall is the immune support protocol.
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Now we talk a lot about the flu respiratory
virus protocols, but we don't talk so
much about immune support protocol itself.
I know for when I program custom cares for athletes,
I typically say run this at least once a month.
And then as the season, as their sports
season gets, More and more intense.
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Sometimes you're running it more and more.
Towards the playoffs, maybe you're running it every
few days because you're playing every second day.
You're on airplanes.
You're run down anyways.
I don't know.
Is there a recipe that you like or a
formula as far as running immune support?
Do you run it yourself?
Actually, Don't I plead guilty.
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Maybe I should but I don't get colds.
I run fashion in Vegas every night So this is what I think
where we are shifting because we didn't talk about the
Vegas so much five six years ago Everything else and so
I always hear your voice saying I'll let the Vegas decide
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what to do Yep, it's, that really is, it's, if a virus
shows up on the horizon, the vagus will stop controlling
the immune system and the immune system will do its thing.
Increased secretions in the immune system,
theoretically, assuming the frequencies
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are doing what we think they're doing.
Increased secretions in the immune system
will support immune system function, we think.
We know for sure the only data we have says that
we can suppress inflammation by doing 40 and 116.
We don't have any data that says 81 and
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49 will increase immune system function.
I'm the data guy, right?
There's that.
It doesn't hurt to run it.
Think of the immune system as a circulating
nervous system and you can do that.
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It's, yeah, I, that's, it's a really good question.
The, I think maybe my problem with immune support is,
Yes, I made a theoretical thought experiment about
immune support, and I did a thought experiment with
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concussion in Vegas, or just vagal tone, and the
more and I, oh, I haven't had a chance to tell you.
Did I tell you?
I didn't tell you.
Okay.
You're sitting down, right?
I am.
Okay.
There's two dogs sleeping at my feet.
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The patent has been filed by Tivik, the company
that is designing a device, an external vagal
nerve stimulator, doing just the short version
of the frequencies we use for vagal tone.
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Okay.
And because the patent has been filed, the
data from Feinstein Institute is now public.
That's a good face.
And I put Jennifer Ernst, the CEO of that
company, and me on the symposium schedule.
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To present the data.
I haven't seen it.
I'm going to do 30 minutes to remind everybody what
the data, what the Vegas does the long version,
but a relevant version of what the Vegas does.
And then Jennifer is going to present the data.
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Data.
It's it was enough to get us a patent.
Amazing.
Yeah.
So if you weren't planning, those of you that
are listening, if you weren't planning to come
to the symposium, it might be a worthwhile to do.
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Yeah, that is what you want to be live for to see in person.
That's amazing.
I'm just, I'm so excited.
And then Julianna Martinson is doing 90 minutes.
And I asked her for the title and it's.
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Sparks.
Ooh!
Sparks of life.
Look at that, sparks.
She just does the history, the biophysics, and
then circles back around to how it relates to FSM.
And she said, no, 90 minutes is right about that.
Good.
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And that was one of the very first things from the
very first advance that I remember is follow the spark.
And I think about that every single day.
It's just follow the spark.
Follow the spark.
That's a great, that's a great working title.
I love that.
I'm excited.
So going back to the Vegas though,
we have to get back to Vegas.
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Yes.
So I, and immune support, the immune support protocol.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If we think of the Vegas as the
almighty, the omega, the powerful, right?
I do.
I just, I respect the heck out
of what the Vegas does for us.
But, when I think about immune support, when I think about
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even just trying to keep my own children healthy, and I
think of the athletes I work with as my teenagers, as my
children, my first question is, Are you sleeping at night?
Yes.
Because it doesn't matter what we're eating, what we're
training, what we're reading, what we're praying for.
If you are not sleeping at night, everything else is a wash.
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You got it.
When I think about immune support, I
think about how are you sleeping at night.
And if I want somebody to sleep at
night, I'm saying concussion and vagus.
Yeah.
Half the time, more than half the time, 90
whatever percent of the time, if they're running
concussion in Vegas within an hour of bedtime,
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there's no second program because you're sleeping.
Yes.
And you are sleeping very well.
Yes.
Exactly.
Yeah, I think immune support is great and I don't think
it hurts and I think a lot of people that I work with to
have a regime, so they like to have a program to follow,
so run this after a workout, once a week I run this, every
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two weeks I run that, if I feel like this I run that.
So I will continue to put immune
support in there because it's that.
And the thing is, assuming that we're doing
what we think we're doing, and we do support
immune system activity, if for any reason, the
immune system needs to be suppressed, right?
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If it needs to be suppressed, the
vagus is going to take care of it.
Vagus will turn it down faster than you can turn it up.
And that's, so that makes it safe to run it as
long as you're running concussion and vagus.
Balance each other.
I feel like the same goes for, and we
talked a little bit about this with Dr.
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Sosnowski and Dr.
Muznak about autoimmune conditions.
And yes, you can I don't want to say chase the symptoms,
but you, or you can make sure the vagus is doing its job
and then the flares of everything are almost secondary.
I don't mean secondary, but like the
vagus has to be involved with everything.
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The vagus has its job to suppress the immune system.
Every autoimmune patient I've ever, once I saw the
connection, every autoimmune patient I've ever seen, there
is some infection, stress, or trauma within one to three
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months prior to the onset of the first autoimmune system.
So the vagus gets turned down
by infection, stress, or trauma.
And so the immune system stops being suppressed
and the immune system decides that you're
synovial joints belong to somebody else.
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And that's, so then you get a
diagnosis of rheumatoid arthritis.
We still have to treat the joints, but in order to quiet
the immune system, you've got to figure out what turned
the vagus off to begin with and fix that, fix the vagus.
So at least then the immune system is back under control.
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And then it's just a matter of, you can't put tissue back.
That's not there.
But you can slow down the flares, and it's, yeah.
This will piggyback on the other question I had.
It was regarding herpes.
Does it work with herpes 1 and 2?
How often would you run it to prevent a flare?
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I would imagine it'd be the same thing.
Stress causes Lack of sleep.
There's so many things that are involved
if you have Herpes 1 and 2, right?
Are you sleeping at night is my first question.
What is your stress levels like?
And I don't know much about, I know the slides
that we have on Herpes were, and we typically
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talk about when there is an active flare.
I don't know how it works with reoccurrent flares or
preventing or maintaining or I have one patient on it.
I have an N of one, don't take this as gospel, but I have
an N of one and he was so paranoid about his recurrent
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genital herpes that he insisted on running it every day.
And I said, no, wait until you get the prodrome
where you know, you're going to have a lesion.
Then you know, the virus is present and just, we know
for sure once the virus is present, it'll knock it out.
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Cool.
He ran it every day and he actually gave himself
an outbreak that we couldn't turn off of an
animal where you don't run it for prevention.
Yeah.
That's Yeah, but I think, and this is
where I don't think virus discriminates.
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Again, like if our immune system is healthy, if we are
sleeping at night, if we're managing our stress levels, if
our gut is digesting the food that we want, these are the
things that we can fixate and again, try to control it.
If you have herpes in your body,
you're not getting rid of it.
So let's do everything you can
to support a healthy environment.
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So that it doesn't decide to.
So it's suppressed.
I mean it's, it, the immune system.
It's like the autoimmune stuff that we talk about.
The immune system is keeping it suppressed, and when you're
not sleeping or you get stressed, the immune system stops
being effective, and all of this leads into Musnick's hour.
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Isn't he doing an hour on sleep?
I think it's, no, I think it's longer than that.
I think I'll have to double check.
Is it the three hour block?
Maybe it's the three hour.
The three hours on sleep, and then 90 minutes,
maybe on the other or an hour on the other.
I think the 3 it's no, it's 3 hours
on sleep because he has so much.
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Amazing information on it and who
doesn't need to hear all of it.
And if you've already heard me,
you don't need to hear me go here.
David talk about sleep.
That would be fun.
Yeah, I don't have the schedule in my head and it's
so it's we'll post it now that it's almost complete.
We've actually almost filled up all the case report.
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Slides.
Slots.
And, oh!
Eduardo is doing an hour on the Dura.
Yes, you talked about that last podcast.
I can't wait, because the Dura, I feel like,
again, you don't have to be a cranial therapist
to understand the power of the Dura, and to
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have him explain it is going to be a treat.
I just, I'm so excited.
It's with one more core in December
and we have a sports in November.
Yeah.
So there's still time if you want to come hang
out with us in Portland at the beautiful Troutdale
center, because the in person small classes are really
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where it's at to touch and feel and to share and to
see it and experience it, there's nothing like it.
So this time it's, are we doing FSM rehab for the two days?
So have you modified the sports so it's more for the
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average, how do I walk down the street or climb stairs?
Yes.
And reach up and pick up a cup.
It's the same activity.
Yes.
Okay.
And the sports advanced is going to be taking
that and making it a little bit more applicable
to sport, but it really is FSM movement, right?
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Like it's rehab and movement.
I like that.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Very good.
Yay.
Because I think all of us in health care and
what we are doing, I think our goal at its like
primal level is to help everybody move better.
Whether that's getting out of a chair better, whether
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that's walking down their hallway to get a cup of coffee
in the morning, whether that's running a marathon.
It's all the same.
It's movement.
We need our bodies to move pain free.
Safely and effectively.
And in that order.
Yes.
I can tell you about one of the most amazing,
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fun cases I've ever done in 30 years.
Please do because this is my favorite part
of the podcast, is listening to the stories.
Okay.
So this lady.
Came up two weeks ago.
She's a friend of a friend.
And I just snuck her in on a day
when I wasn't supposed to be working.
Because she was on her way to Southern
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Oregon to pick up a mobility dog.
She has been in pain for ten years and
diagnosed with myofascial pain syndrome.
Yes, I've heard of this from my rheumatologist.
And she's headed down to pick up this dog that has
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been specially trained for her for three years.
Specifically for mobility.
He's been learned to stand when she puts her hand on
his back, so she can reach down and take her shoes off.
And she arrives for the first visit, and
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she has no triceps reflex on one side.
She's hyperactive, patellar reflexes.
On both knees, and her pain diagram shows that
the psoas on both sides is just rock hard.
So I treated scarring on the ureter, scarring on the
kidney, treated disc repair on the neck, concussion in
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vagus, and she left with her pain at a 5 instead of a 5.
And then she went down, she picked up
her dog, and she came back yesterday.
And Yesterday, redid the reflexes, no trispeps
reflex on the left, hyperactive patella
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reflexes, and Oh, that was the other thing.
She said, it hurts when I walk, it
hurts when I sit, it hurts when I stand.
What does that say?
And where was her pain?
In her back?
Huh.
Hurts when I sit.
Hurts when I stand.
Hurts when I walk.
Okay.
She has sprained a side joint.
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Yeah.
So I laid her on the table and I pushed on
her right SI joint, it was just boink, boink.
Nice and firm.
Left SI joint, smash.
So I just, the first visit and yesterday
just ran 124 and 77 across her SI joint.
And then I happened to feel.
The tone, and she's in her legs, because she said, I
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always feel like I have a corset on, because her psoas
wasn't bad, but she, I always feel like I have a corset on.
My muscles are so tight.
And then I felt the tone in her left leg, the
tone versus the tone in her right leg, the tone.
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In her back and her chest on the
left and it's a left triceps.
It's missing.
You see where I'm going with this.
So yesterday I ran 81 and 10 and taught her to take
a deep breath and ran 40 and 89 for 60 minutes.
So she's not afraid of her body anymore.
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Then we ran increased secretions in the sensory
motor cortex, while I had her learn to contract
her lower abs, and then increased secretions in
the cerebellum, and with 40 and 89, quieting all
that trauma and pain in the midbrain, and all the
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childhood difficulties she had, the look on her face,
The person that left the office
yesterday was completely different.
She was confident.
And somebody who walked in being, two weeks ago, being
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afraid of her body because all it did ever was hurt.
I put her on the Reformer with just half a spring
and had her, extend her legs, straighten her legs.
I call it the slidey thing.
She just used her legs and she said, it doesn't hurt.
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I love moving.
And I said, and if you don't need a
mobility dog, you have a wonderful pet.
To be able to change somebody's life
like that, so predictably, so easily.
And I, because I'm, during the session,
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I would say, it can't be this easy.
She said, nobody has ever said it's easy.
And I said, they just don't have the tool.
It's not their fault.
And a big part of what you do also is.
The pattern recognition that we talk about,
you have the hypothesis, you compare that to
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what the patient is presenting with whatever
kind of data or imaging that backs it up.
I want to talk about the reflexes for a
second because we talk about reflexes a lot.
That was actually one of my questions.
The person had said, I remember way back when
getting reflex tests at the doctor's office.
I don't remember the last time my doctor ever did a reflex.
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So can you talk a little bit about hyper reflexes for
a second before I go any further just for the people
that are listening and actually the practitioners that
are listening because there's a lot of people that we
learn it and then we don't, we skip over it sometimes.
So if you.
So the, a normal relief, there's a scale,
plus one is, it's reduced, plus two is normal,
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plus three is hyper, plus four is clonus.
It, you get a reflex and it won't stop.
If there's a disc bulge in the neck, let's
say, or the thoracic spine, any place there's
a spinal cord, inflammation in the spinal
cord slows descending inhibition of a reflex.
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Thanks.
If, so the upper reflexes, the biceps, the
brachioradialis, and the triceps, those represent
or demonstrate whether or not the nerve root
that innervates that tendon is compromised.
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So if it's really inflamed, it's going to be reduced.
If it's really inflamed, it's going to be absent.
If it's normal, it'll be a little better.
brisk.
If there's a disc bulge above that
nerve root, it'll be hyperactive.
Or if the patient is hyperthyroid, or there's
some other things that'll make it hyper.
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Anyway, so that's the upper reflexes.
But the patellar reflexes, If there's inflammation
in the spinal cord, there's a constant dial
tone that comes down the spinal cord, dampens
the reflex, and keeps it down to a plus two.
If there's inflammation in the cord, conductivity is slowed,
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so it can't get to L3 in time to dampen the patella reflex.
a hyperactive, where instead of
just doing wonk, it goes wango.
That is plus three, and that
means the spinal cord's inflamed.
And that's, I actually had an MD tell
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me that she'd never heard that before.
It was a neurologist that taught, Bob Grimm taught me that.
. Then the Achilles is for whatever reason, not affected.
So it's really unusual to have
a hyperactive Achilles reflex.
But if the spinal cord is really inflamed, you'll get one
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or two beats of C CLOs when you pop the an the foot up.
The foot will bounce once or twice, so you record plus
one, they'll have clonus on one side, but not the other.
And that means that the disc is one sided.
Pretty much, with reflexes and sensation,
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you should be able to predict what the MRI
is going to look like, where the disc is.
What it's pressing on, how it operates,
she had completely normal sensation.
So the disc in her neck that produced increased tone all
the way down the left side had to be purely central because
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she has no nerve involvement and posterolateral discs
hit the nerve roots and create hyperesthesia or numbness.
Hers had to be central and I did 81 and 10.
So she left with a custom care and a magnetic converter.
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I said, the only thing you have to run with these wraps.
is body tightness, tight body.
That's it.
Cause she left and she could breathe.
And she said, when do I run it?
I said, when you feel tight and you're
10 years, you've been feeling tight.
So you're you used to it.
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The challenge is Get used to being
loose and when you feel tight, treat it.
Yeah, it's a really important concept for
people who have had a chronic injury or
chronic illness or chronic anything you do.
You get completely used to running it and then that's the.
The reason why 1489 became such a important frequency
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to run even during treatment before they move before
they get off the table, because we can assume, I
think, with quite a bit of confidence that they
are going to stop at that barrier that used to
be there, that created pain because We're smart.
Why would I blow through a barrier that created pain?
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Why would I move this way when that creates pain?
Then when you remove that pain as quickly as we
do, there is no way everybody's going to get on the
same page again and be like, Oh yeah, that's safe.
That's not going to hurt.
I'm just going to do this.
Once in a while, you do get that patient.
That's more often than not,
you're not getting that response.
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And if pain is the normal thing for you, when you
When it gets better in the office, and you, even if
you have a custom care, gets better in the office,
and then five days later, you feel tight again.
I've been tight for 10 years.
That's my normal state, and you almost
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forget that there's a solution for it.
And sometimes they just forget to run it.
Because tight is normal.
It's uncomfortable, it's painful, but that's who they are.
But I use the fact that patients
on the table are hypnotized.
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And I made eye contact and put my hand on her
shoulder and said, this is not who you are anymore.
This now, relaxed, pain free, comfortable.
This.
is normal and you just touch their shoulder and there we go.
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It's pretty fun.
That is a very important statement I think to
make to people because they do self identify.
I think working with athletes as well, and it's
not even a professional athlete, somebody who is a
runner self identifies as a runner and there is fear
and panic and terror when they have an ailment or a
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condition that is preventing them from running and
right away, what am I going to do if I can't run?
There's a hundred other exercises that you can
do in the meantime, but it is that it is what the
attach the identity with the condition, right?
And so to be able to reframe that, I
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think is a really important concept.
We talk about, we talked about
mantras a lot with Peter Twist.
We talked about it with Dr.
Musnick even.
And so I think even posing the question of when you
are recovered from this, what does your life look like?
Tell me what you will do.
Instead of how much pain are you in?
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I get it, but what is the goal, right?
What would you like to do?
And go there and talk about it.
I'm going to pick up my granddaughter.
I'm going to go for a walk with my spouse.
I'm going to put the mug on the top
shelf of the cupboard for the first time.
And what does that feel like?
And smile about it and attach something positive to it.
Yeah, let them create a picture.
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I found a tape.
I need to do either a webinar or an hour at the
advanced with slides on hypnosis and everyday clinical
practice, but I've never made slides about it because
it's, I didn't know how to make slides about it.
(35:12):
And then I found a tape.
of a lecture I gave in to the American
Association of Naturopathic Physicians.
I don't have the slides but there's a lecture
so I can take the lecture, listen to it, and
make slides and figure out how to talk about it.
(35:32):
Yeah.
Because I took the course on hypnosis and clinical
practice when I was 28 from the San Diego Society of
clinical hypnosis and they were all MDs and they use it
in their practice and every patient we see is hypnotized.
Yeah.
(35:52):
And then learning to use that
deliberately is really powerful.
Yes.
Oh, I just lost it.
See, this is why I need to write
things down when you're talking.
Patient reframing.
Oh, the reformer.
Yeah, the reformer is a great tool and you don't have
to be a certified Pilates instructor to have one because
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you can start with proper mechanics that is in a, and
this is a big concept of the sports advanced course,
is an open chain versus a closed chain exercise.
A closed chain is.
weight bearing standing.
That's when the extremity is fixated on the floor typically.
So when you are horizontal, like on the reformer, and
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this is where we did all the amazing case studies, this is
how we formulated wipe and load when we had our swimmer.
The reason why we had him on the reformer so much is
because he is in a horizontal non weight bearing sport.
I don't need him to be vertically
loaded for proper mechanics.
So the reformer is really nice when you have cables for
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the upper extremity and you're able to move the whole
body through a chain that's non weight bearing because the
threat of injury is very low when you're non weight bearing.
So it's a beautiful tool to have at your
fingertips in those initial mechanical recreations.
(37:24):
When I was at New Heights doing PT pre and post my
hip replacements, that was my cookie at the end of
my sessions was I got to be on the slidey thing.
The reformer is the slidey thing.
So when I built out the clinic, it gave me an excuse
(37:50):
and a budget by a slidey thing and I get on it and play.
And I got to the point after my hip replacements where I
watched them rehab Prima Ballerina, who had broken her foot.
(38:11):
And her final task was to With three or four springs
pushing off and leaping with her foot pointed with
both feet and then one foot and one foot so she
(38:33):
could strengthen all the muscles and it requires
that your upper body be balanced and coordinated.
And so that's, that was my cookie and that's how my little
clinic as a reformer, and it's a perfect, I didn't, I don't
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know what you know about opening chain and closed chain.
I just knew that having her walk as
the first task was too much for her.
So she needed to get to know her legs.
on the reformer and then I said now walk clear
(39:14):
back to Kevin's office and then walk this way and
her gait was different her it was just amazing to
see And to be able to do that with this as a tool.
There's no other, there's no other way.
81 and 10?
Who has, who can do that?
(39:34):
I don't know.
Yeah.
We have a little question, I believe.
I would treat the liver for toxicity.
I don't know why I'd treat the liver.
I don't have any, we have a frequency for the tongue.
You could do the liver, because.
(39:55):
What comes out in your saliva is what's circulating
in the fluid and all that comes from the liver
and chemo pretty much messes up the liver.
Unless the chemo is specific so that
it's going to damage the taste buds.
So then you could do toxicity in the tongue.
(40:15):
That's a thought.
Diane says, The Reformer would
be great for patients with POTS.
POTS is so easy to fix.
It's really, I, it sounds silly when you say POTS is easy
to fix, but you fix POTS by getting the vagus to work.
They get up off the table and they don't have POTS.
(40:37):
Vegas has as its job to slow the heart rate when you stand
up and if the Vegas is working, so you could do concussion
in Vegas, you could start them horizontal on the reformer.
But if you get their Vegas working, when they
stand up, they're not going to have pots.
(40:58):
At least I've never had anybody that laid
down with pots that stood up with pots.
So right.
I have no mileage with that.
Derek, do you feel 321 49 on A and
534 on B could help with dementia?
Need something for calming down aggression?
I would do I'm not sure what 534 is, Derek.
(41:23):
Neither.
Thank you for when you say those things, because I always
feel like after all these years I should know, but I don't.
No, 534 is one that I don't use.
What is 534?
It's George's frequency for the limbic system
and it has a little eye next to it and because it
doesn't work before I make before I take the little
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eye next to anything that George has scanned for.
I have to have a demonstration that it actually
does that part of the brain that it's described.
And he's got one for the limbic
system and the deep limbic system.
And as far as I can tell, they don't work.
40 and 89 could work.
(42:08):
So calming down aggression, fear, anger.
We know the limbic system, the hypothalamus and the
thalamus and the hippocampus are in the midbrain.
So 40 in the midbrain might work and you wouldn't
(42:28):
want to increase vitality, even if 534 worked for the
limbic system, you wouldn't want to increase vitality
and the limbic system because the limbic system is the
emotional part and that's where aggression comes from.
So what you want to do is calm down the limbic
(42:50):
system because What happens in dementia is as
the cortex loses control over the limbic system.
So we all have, occasionally,
the desire to strangle somebody.
And the cortex says, no, that's not polite.
Why don't you just keep quiet?
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It's going to be fine.
We nod politely and walk away.
That's what the cortex says.
As you get dementia and your frontal lobe
goes away, then the limbic system has
no filter to, to prevent the aggression.
I would go after increased secretions and vitality and
(43:36):
reduce inflammation in the cortex to create More of a
filter for the limbic system and quiet the midbrain to see
if that would work and honestly increase the Vegas, right?
(43:58):
So Vegas increases circulation, nitric oxide, and decreases
inflammation and decreases all the bad stuff, decreases
glutamate, increases GABA, does all the good stuff.
So treat the Vegas.
Like crazy treat the cortex to get it to be a better filter.
(44:24):
And there's a, yeah, it's the limbic
system, but Derek, do you see the logic?
It's understanding.
It's why during the advanced, I spend
so much time on the nervous system.
So you see the connections between everything.
The nervous system is fairly linear.
(44:45):
Yeah.
This does that, this suppresses that, this
amplifies that, and this is connected to that,
and everything goes through, it's linear, right?
Yeah.
When can you run a concussion in Vegas after
the chemo should it depends on how the cancer
is doing the Vegas suppresses the immune system.
(45:09):
If the chemo has been successful, the cancer is quiet.
I, you'd run toxicity in the Vegas and Harry used to
run just concussion support, support the adrenals.
Yeah.
emotional factors.
If you've had chemotherapy, you want to treat the liver.
(45:32):
And I'd say once they tell you that your CA 125 is back down
in the normal range, then you can run concussion in Vegas.
I would think.
Hi Kathleen.
We had one, one thing I want to touch on before we
go, just because This is probably the most common
thing anybody is going to treat are sprained ankles.
(45:54):
And I think that's why I talk about
sprained ankles so much and all the time.
But there is a very big difference between a
high ankle sprain and a normal inversion sprain.
Oh, totally different tissue.
Exactly.
So this is what I wanted to touch on.
And this is what we had tag
teamed the clarification on that.
(46:15):
A normal inversion ankle is when you roll your ankle
and your ankle turns in and you go outside of it.
That's very common injury.
We don't have eversion sprains because
structurally it's very hard to actually evert.
We have a nice safe bony block there.
So you get that Inversion rolled ankle.
(46:36):
That's the deltoid ligament gets typically really damaged,
torn, whatever, what degree is up to how your injury was.
But your big bang for your buck is going
to be torn and broken on the ligaments.
So 124, 100.
And you could do 77, the connective tissue, because
you've got the retinaculum can get banged up.
(46:59):
783 makes it help feel better too.
that's the typical slam dunk.
A high ankle sprain is very painful.
You'll see these more with sports with rapid
acceleration where the foot is planted and
then there's a bit of a rotational force.
So the membrane in between the two lower leg
(47:20):
bones, your tib fib, has this beautiful fibrous
Membrane called the interosseous membrane, that
in both directions diagonally, there's two layers.
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
So yes, it's beautiful, however excruciating
and can be very slow to heal because
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there's a lot of movement between the bones.
While we are typically moving away from a lot of
immobilization, you'll typically see those high ankle
sprains in a boot or a walking boot a little bit to.
Just keep those two bones a little more still,
so it's not as painful, but you want to be not
as focused on 100, but you want to shift your
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focus on that B channel to 77 and 142 and 783.
But it's just a very big, it's a small difference, but a
very big difference in your focus because of the anatomy.
That's, and that's why Netter is your friend.
Yes, look up the interosseous membrane and you can
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see it's connective tissue, not ligaments, even though
ligaments connect bone to bone, the interosseous membrane
is connective tissue that connects bone to bone, right?
And the membrane that it's a membrane.
So when you see words like band, retinaculum,
(48:47):
membrane, those should be like jumping off as
connective tissue, 77, and fascia is everywhere.
So I feel like I'm running 142 just all the live
long day right now, because It's that is your friend.
Connective tissue is your friend.
(49:07):
There's a comment over here, and this
relates to what Derek was asking.
Susan Jewett says, 40 and 89 worked very well in my
experience for anxiety and dementia and Alzheimer's.
It's very calming for the person.
Part of the reason that dementia patients
get aggressive is they're terrified.
(49:31):
The sleep system, it just sees threat and everywhere
and it goes back to the very primitive emotions,
anger and aggression, but it comes from anxiety.
And thank you for the corroboration that
40 and 89 would be a good thing to do.
(49:51):
But yes, same thing with, you're welcome, Derek.
Same thing with the high ankle sprain, cause it's,
that, that is one place where an orthopedic surgeon will
actually put a screw through from the fibula to, through
the tibia at an angle, and that screw is to be removed.
(50:13):
But you have to, from a surgeon's standpoint,
you have to immobilize those two bones
so that interosseous membrane can heal.
Because otherwise they move, and every time they
move, the connective tissue gets disorganized.
And it's, they need to line up and get strong.
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Those two bones together.
Yeah I have a bit of a spark in my face right now
because I've been so successful at treating high
ankle sprains that people have gotten into trouble
because the next day the pain and the swelling,
especially the pain feels like it's almost gone.
Oh, I don't need this and I can keep walking and
I'm like, but healing still needs to take place.
(50:56):
And I'm glad that you feel great,
but you still can't go running today.
No, no butts.
No.
It needs to heal.
And like you had said, if you open netters or you
Google it, it runs in this cross hatch pattern.
And so because it's trying to distribute
the forces between those two bones.
So it is typically the harder sprain to heal, but it
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doesn't again, I think it's quite easy when you just
shift your focus on, again, what is the tissue, right?
And that goes back, that's like FSM 101.
What is wrong and where is it occurring?
It's torn and broken or we need to repair and heal.
That's our new phrase for 124.
It needs repair and healing, but it's not
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like around ligament or ligament proper.
The membrane is It's a different kind of beast altogether.
And the other thing with high ankle sprains, at least
the few that I've treated, is that it's really difficult
to tear or strain the interosseous membrane without
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beating up the deltoid ligament at the same time.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It doesn't get damaged in isolation.
And again, it's just like everything.
with FSM is recreating the story.
How did we get here?
So it's what's wrong, where is it occurring, but
the other part of it is, how did we get here?
So yeah, you're right.
(52:23):
It's like having, it's like having a
concussion without having the neck involved.
Exactly.
I go a little crazy when I hear, no, it's just a concussion.
His neck is fine.
Like the head isn't connected to the neck.
Like the head just levitated and hit
(52:44):
something without the neck doing something.
Sure.
The next fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're not even going to look at the neck.
It's okay.
That's the other thing with concussions
is they don't check the inner ear.
It's just a question.
Where did you get hit?
Oh, back here.
You mean on the temporal bone, right over your inner ear?
(53:08):
And we shouldn't check the jaw because the jaw was just
super happy and relaxed as this incident was happening.
Sure.
No, and this, the last clash that we did in
Troutdale, there were, How many 18 people and
20 percent of the class had vestibular injuries.
(53:29):
Yeah.
Amazing.
Not surprising, but none of them knew it.
Yes.
And I handed out the B.
I.
V.
S.
to the whole group and the ones.
That filled them out, 46 over 18, 27
over 8, I, it's they just took the test.
(53:51):
And, oh, that's what's wrong.
And 40 and 44 works for that.
Yes.
It does.
It takes the symptoms down.
That's good.
It can't be four o'clock already.
It is.
It is.
I don't want to go.
I don't want to go.
(54:11):
I'm glad you're back.
And we'll be back next week too.
Yes, and then we're in person the week after that.
Ah, that's right.
Yes.
Oh, that's so exciting.
I know.
Yay.
All right.
Have a great week.
We'll see you next week.
And we've still so much of that
list to go through, but whatever.
We'll get to it when we get to it.
(54:32):
Get some of your list done?
Yes.
Okay.
I can sleep tonight knowing some of the list is I
worry about your list sometimes, just so you know.
I think about your list.
It's like we need to get the little checkmarks done.
It's okay.
I think it's good the list keeps growing because we want
to keep asking questions and we want to keep Moving.
We don't want to stay stagnant.
(54:53):
So the questions are, the list
should be continuing to flourish.
Agreed.
There's always the questions.
This is good.
I love the list.
Calm voices amidst the chaos.
Thank you.
That's, we aim to be the calm voices.
That's, oh there it is.
Thank you Melanie.
(55:13):
Calm voices amidst the chaos.
Amen.
We're not even gonna go there.
No, we did so well.
We didn't even, podcast is over.
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There she is.
And there you are.
(00:20):
Hello.
Hi.
How are ya?
I'm good.
I missed you.
I missed you too.
You know how you have road signs here that
say Deere Crossing and Things like that.
The road signs in Costa Rica were sloths,
(00:40):
three foot long iguanas, and deer.
And that's what you had to be careful was
crossing the road in front of your car.
It was 80 degrees.
And it's still the rainy season, so they
had drizzle, and then downpours, and then
(01:03):
sun, all in the space of an hour or two.
And, but it was still 80 degrees.
When it drizzles and downpours in Portland, it's 47 degrees.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Yay!
They have blue butterflies.
I have my butterfly picture in the back.
(01:25):
Butterflies are extremely symbolic for me, so
I would have loved to see big blue butterflies.
I brought, it's downstairs and
now I can't leave and go get it.
It's, I got a blue butterfly in a glass frame.
Wow.
You can bring it for show and tell next week.
Okay.
I will bring it for show until next week.
(01:48):
So what did you do in Costa Rica?
Let's hear all about it.
I went to visit Anamaya, which is a yoga retreat center.
Joseph Mikrut, I think I'm pronouncing his
name right, invited us to do a course seminar.
He read The Resonance Effect.
Said we should offer this as a therapy at Anamaya.
(02:14):
And Anamaya is a yoga retreat center.
It sleeps 32.
It started out as somebody's house.
And then over the last 15 years, these guys
have built, Joseph and his business partner
have built sleeping room cottages, the Down the
(02:39):
side of the hill until there's sleeping room
for 32 people and then two teaching room spaces.
And it's just gorgeous.
There's every place you look in
Costa Rica, there's It's art.
They, if there's a blank wall, they paint
(03:02):
flowers or leaves or something on it.
The trees, everything is green, everything, it's
flowers, there's, it's, anyway, so we are doing art.
The core, their yoga pattern is you check in on
(03:23):
Saturday, you start the course Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
you take Wednesday off to go surfing or swimming
or just lay about or get a massage or do whatever.
Then you finish up Thursday,
Friday, then you leave Saturday.
So we talked about how to structure that.
And I said, that's it.
What if we booked Anamaya for two weeks, so we'd
(03:51):
take the Saturday, and then maybe we could do an FSM
rehab course on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and then
maybe we could take Wednesday off and do a master
class Thursday, Friday, and then leave on Saturday.
(04:12):
And half, so half of the sleeping room spaces
are already booked for that second week.
But the sports or the rehab and the
master class are usually smaller.
So I said, okay, what if we had just 15
or 16 of the rooms instead of all 32?
(04:35):
And so we have to work that out.
And I told him I'd check with you and see if
you'd like to come down and visit Paradise.
It's Yeah.
The job of posting on social media, which was
making everybody feel like they were there.
It won't take much convincing to get me to come.
(04:56):
The roads are really pretty awful in certain areas.
And then, but then the road from Montezuma to
Liberia airport, it's a three and a half hour
drive, but it's all in paved road with no.
That part was good.
And, yeah.
It's I like how you always bring us back
(05:18):
to the positive piece of everything.
That was good.
That's positive.
That was good.
Yeah, the, yeah.
It was, there's just no words.
This, so there's Artisans along the street, they just
(05:38):
set up their little tables and this is carved jade.
Wow.
Yeah.
And it's just, it feels good when I wear it.
So I put that on today.
It looks good.
Yeah.
Not like it looks stylish, but it looks like good, powerful.
(05:58):
Yeah.
That's what it feels like.
It's good.
Powerful.
Good.
Sometimes powerful can feel scary or it could feel, but
that is, I want to talk about feelings today a little
bit, actually, but we can circumvent all of that and in
a little bit, there's so many questions that came in to
me over the last little while that I've put off until I
(06:22):
could talk to you about it, because it has more to do with.
Non sporty things, but as we talk about
everything is connected to everything.
I'd like to go to a list a little bit at some point today.
Go for it.
So one of the first things as we are entering cold and
flu season into the fall is the immune support protocol.
(06:45):
Now we talk a lot about the flu respiratory
virus protocols, but we don't talk so
much about immune support protocol itself.
I know for when I program custom cares for athletes,
I typically say run this at least once a month.
And then as the season, as their sports
season gets, More and more intense.
(07:06):
Sometimes you're running it more and more.
Towards the playoffs, maybe you're running it every
few days because you're playing every second day.
You're on airplanes.
You're run down anyways.
I don't know.
Is there a recipe that you like or a
formula as far as running immune support?
Do you run it yourself?
Actually, Don't I plead guilty.
(07:28):
Maybe I should but I don't get colds.
I run fashion in Vegas every night So this is what I think
where we are shifting because we didn't talk about the
Vegas so much five six years ago Everything else and so
I always hear your voice saying I'll let the Vegas decide
(07:48):
what to do Yep, it's, that really is, it's, if a virus
shows up on the horizon, the vagus will stop controlling
the immune system and the immune system will do its thing.
Increased secretions in the immune system,
theoretically, assuming the frequencies
(08:10):
are doing what we think they're doing.
Increased secretions in the immune system
will support immune system function, we think.
We know for sure the only data we have says that
we can suppress inflammation by doing 40 and 116.
We don't have any data that says 81 and
(08:32):
49 will increase immune system function.
I'm the data guy, right?
There's that.
It doesn't hurt to run it.
Think of the immune system as a circulating
nervous system and you can do that.
(08:54):
It's, yeah, I, that's, it's a really good question.
The, I think maybe my problem with immune support is,
Yes, I made a theoretical thought experiment about
immune support, and I did a thought experiment with
(09:14):
concussion in Vegas, or just vagal tone, and the
more and I, oh, I haven't had a chance to tell you.
Did I tell you?
I didn't tell you.
Okay.
You're sitting down, right?
I am.
Okay.
There's two dogs sleeping at my feet.
(09:34):
The patent has been filed by Tivik, the company
that is designing a device, an external vagal
nerve stimulator, doing just the short version
of the frequencies we use for vagal tone.
(09:55):
Okay.
And because the patent has been filed, the
data from Feinstein Institute is now public.
That's a good face.
And I put Jennifer Ernst, the CEO of that
company, and me on the symposium schedule.
(10:18):
To present the data.
I haven't seen it.
I'm going to do 30 minutes to remind everybody what
the data, what the Vegas does the long version,
but a relevant version of what the Vegas does.
And then Jennifer is going to present the data.
(10:40):
Data.
It's it was enough to get us a patent.
Amazing.
Yeah.
So if you weren't planning, those of you that
are listening, if you weren't planning to come
to the symposium, it might be a worthwhile to do.
(11:04):
Yeah, that is what you want to be live for to see in person.
That's amazing.
I'm just, I'm so excited.
And then Julianna Martinson is doing 90 minutes.
And I asked her for the title and it's.
(11:27):
Sparks.
Ooh!
Sparks of life.
Look at that, sparks.
She just does the history, the biophysics, and
then circles back around to how it relates to FSM.
And she said, no, 90 minutes is right about that.
Good.
(11:48):
And that was one of the very first things from the
very first advance that I remember is follow the spark.
And I think about that every single day.
It's just follow the spark.
Follow the spark.
That's a great, that's a great working title.
I love that.
I'm excited.
So going back to the Vegas though,
we have to get back to Vegas.
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Yes.
So I, and immune support, the immune support protocol.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If we think of the Vegas as the
almighty, the omega, the powerful, right?
I do.
I just, I respect the heck out
of what the Vegas does for us.
But, when I think about immune support, when I think about
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even just trying to keep my own children healthy, and I
think of the athletes I work with as my teenagers, as my
children, my first question is, Are you sleeping at night?
Yes.
Because it doesn't matter what we're eating, what we're
training, what we're reading, what we're praying for.
If you are not sleeping at night, everything else is a wash.
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You got it.
When I think about immune support, I
think about how are you sleeping at night.
And if I want somebody to sleep at
night, I'm saying concussion and vagus.
Yeah.
Half the time, more than half the time, 90
whatever percent of the time, if they're running
concussion in Vegas within an hour of bedtime,
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there's no second program because you're sleeping.
Yes.
And you are sleeping very well.
Yes.
Exactly.
Yeah, I think immune support is great and I don't think
it hurts and I think a lot of people that I work with to
have a regime, so they like to have a program to follow,
so run this after a workout, once a week I run this, every
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two weeks I run that, if I feel like this I run that.
So I will continue to put immune
support in there because it's that.
And the thing is, assuming that we're doing
what we think we're doing, and we do support
immune system activity, if for any reason, the
immune system needs to be suppressed, right?
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If it needs to be suppressed, the
vagus is going to take care of it.
Vagus will turn it down faster than you can turn it up.
And that's, so that makes it safe to run it as
long as you're running concussion and vagus.
Balance each other.
I feel like the same goes for, and we
talked a little bit about this with Dr.
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Sosnowski and Dr.
Muznak about autoimmune conditions.
And yes, you can I don't want to say chase the symptoms,
but you, or you can make sure the vagus is doing its job
and then the flares of everything are almost secondary.
I don't mean secondary, but like the
vagus has to be involved with everything.
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The vagus has its job to suppress the immune system.
Every autoimmune patient I've ever, once I saw the
connection, every autoimmune patient I've ever seen, there
is some infection, stress, or trauma within one to three
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months prior to the onset of the first autoimmune system.
So the vagus gets turned down
by infection, stress, or trauma.
And so the immune system stops being suppressed
and the immune system decides that you're
synovial joints belong to somebody else.
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And that's, so then you get a
diagnosis of rheumatoid arthritis.
We still have to treat the joints, but in order to quiet
the immune system, you've got to figure out what turned
the vagus off to begin with and fix that, fix the vagus.
So at least then the immune system is back under control.
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And then it's just a matter of, you can't put tissue back.
That's not there.
But you can slow down the flares, and it's, yeah.
This will piggyback on the other question I had.
It was regarding herpes.
Does it work with herpes 1 and 2?
How often would you run it to prevent a flare?
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I would imagine it'd be the same thing.
Stress causes Lack of sleep.
There's so many things that are involved
if you have Herpes 1 and 2, right?
Are you sleeping at night is my first question.
What is your stress levels like?
And I don't know much about, I know the slides
that we have on Herpes were, and we typically
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talk about when there is an active flare.
I don't know how it works with reoccurrent flares or
preventing or maintaining or I have one patient on it.
I have an N of one, don't take this as gospel, but I have
an N of one and he was so paranoid about his recurrent
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genital herpes that he insisted on running it every day.
And I said, no, wait until you get the prodrome
where you know, you're going to have a lesion.
Then you know, the virus is present and just, we know
for sure once the virus is present, it'll knock it out.
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Cool.
He ran it every day and he actually gave himself
an outbreak that we couldn't turn off of an
animal where you don't run it for prevention.
Yeah.
That's Yeah, but I think, and this is
where I don't think virus discriminates.
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Again, like if our immune system is healthy, if we are
sleeping at night, if we're managing our stress levels, if
our gut is digesting the food that we want, these are the
things that we can fixate and again, try to control it.
If you have herpes in your body,
you're not getting rid of it.
So let's do everything you can
to support a healthy environment.
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So that it doesn't decide to.
So it's suppressed.
I mean it's, it, the immune system.
It's like the autoimmune stuff that we talk about.
The immune system is keeping it suppressed, and when you're
not sleeping or you get stressed, the immune system stops
being effective, and all of this leads into Musnick's hour.
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Isn't he doing an hour on sleep?
I think it's, no, I think it's longer than that.
I think I'll have to double check.
Is it the three hour block?
Maybe it's the three hour.
The three hours on sleep, and then 90 minutes,
maybe on the other or an hour on the other.
I think the 3 it's no, it's 3 hours
on sleep because he has so much.
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Amazing information on it and who
doesn't need to hear all of it.
And if you've already heard me,
you don't need to hear me go here.
David talk about sleep.
That would be fun.
Yeah, I don't have the schedule in my head and it's
so it's we'll post it now that it's almost complete.
We've actually almost filled up all the case report.
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Slides.
Slots.
And, oh!
Eduardo is doing an hour on the Dura.
Yes, you talked about that last podcast.
I can't wait, because the Dura, I feel like,
again, you don't have to be a cranial therapist
to understand the power of the Dura, and to
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have him explain it is going to be a treat.
I just, I'm so excited.
It's with one more core in December
and we have a sports in November.
Yeah.
So there's still time if you want to come hang
out with us in Portland at the beautiful Troutdale
center, because the in person small classes are really
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where it's at to touch and feel and to share and to
see it and experience it, there's nothing like it.
So this time it's, are we doing FSM rehab for the two days?
So have you modified the sports so it's more for the
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average, how do I walk down the street or climb stairs?
Yes.
And reach up and pick up a cup.
It's the same activity.
Yes.
Okay.
And the sports advanced is going to be taking
that and making it a little bit more applicable
to sport, but it really is FSM movement, right?
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Like it's rehab and movement.
I like that.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Very good.
Yay.
Because I think all of us in health care and
what we are doing, I think our goal at its like
primal level is to help everybody move better.
Whether that's getting out of a chair better, whether
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that's walking down their hallway to get a cup of coffee
in the morning, whether that's running a marathon.
It's all the same.
It's movement.
We need our bodies to move pain free.
Safely and effectively.
And in that order.
Yes.
I can tell you about one of the most amazing,
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fun cases I've ever done in 30 years.
Please do because this is my favorite part
of the podcast, is listening to the stories.
Okay.
So this lady.
Came up two weeks ago.
She's a friend of a friend.
And I just snuck her in on a day
when I wasn't supposed to be working.
Because she was on her way to Southern
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Oregon to pick up a mobility dog.
She has been in pain for ten years and
diagnosed with myofascial pain syndrome.
Yes, I've heard of this from my rheumatologist.
And she's headed down to pick up this dog that has
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been specially trained for her for three years.
Specifically for mobility.
He's been learned to stand when she puts her hand on
his back, so she can reach down and take her shoes off.
And she arrives for the first visit, and
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she has no triceps reflex on one side.
She's hyperactive, patellar reflexes.
On both knees, and her pain diagram shows that
the psoas on both sides is just rock hard.
So I treated scarring on the ureter, scarring on the
kidney, treated disc repair on the neck, concussion in
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vagus, and she left with her pain at a 5 instead of a 5.
And then she went down, she picked up
her dog, and she came back yesterday.
And Yesterday, redid the reflexes, no trispeps
reflex on the left, hyperactive patella
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reflexes, and Oh, that was the other thing.
She said, it hurts when I walk, it
hurts when I sit, it hurts when I stand.
What does that say?
And where was her pain?
In her back?
Huh.
Hurts when I sit.
Hurts when I stand.
Hurts when I walk.
Okay.
She has sprained a side joint.
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Yeah.
So I laid her on the table and I pushed on
her right SI joint, it was just boink, boink.
Nice and firm.
Left SI joint, smash.
So I just, the first visit and yesterday
just ran 124 and 77 across her SI joint.
And then I happened to feel.
The tone, and she's in her legs, because she said, I
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always feel like I have a corset on, because her psoas
wasn't bad, but she, I always feel like I have a corset on.
My muscles are so tight.
And then I felt the tone in her left leg, the
tone versus the tone in her right leg, the tone.
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In her back and her chest on the
left and it's a left triceps.
It's missing.
You see where I'm going with this.
So yesterday I ran 81 and 10 and taught her to take
a deep breath and ran 40 and 89 for 60 minutes.
So she's not afraid of her body anymore.
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Then we ran increased secretions in the sensory
motor cortex, while I had her learn to contract
her lower abs, and then increased secretions in
the cerebellum, and with 40 and 89, quieting all
that trauma and pain in the midbrain, and all the
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childhood difficulties she had, the look on her face,
The person that left the office
yesterday was completely different.
She was confident.
And somebody who walked in being, two weeks ago, being
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afraid of her body because all it did ever was hurt.
I put her on the Reformer with just half a spring
and had her, extend her legs, straighten her legs.
I call it the slidey thing.
She just used her legs and she said, it doesn't hurt.
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I love moving.
And I said, and if you don't need a
mobility dog, you have a wonderful pet.
To be able to change somebody's life
like that, so predictably, so easily.
And I, because I'm, during the session,
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I would say, it can't be this easy.
She said, nobody has ever said it's easy.
And I said, they just don't have the tool.
It's not their fault.
And a big part of what you do also is.
The pattern recognition that we talk about,
you have the hypothesis, you compare that to
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what the patient is presenting with whatever
kind of data or imaging that backs it up.
I want to talk about the reflexes for a
second because we talk about reflexes a lot.
That was actually one of my questions.
The person had said, I remember way back when
getting reflex tests at the doctor's office.
I don't remember the last time my doctor ever did a reflex.
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So can you talk a little bit about hyper reflexes for
a second before I go any further just for the people
that are listening and actually the practitioners that
are listening because there's a lot of people that we
learn it and then we don't, we skip over it sometimes.
So if you.
So the, a normal relief, there's a scale,
plus one is, it's reduced, plus two is normal,
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plus three is hyper, plus four is clonus.
It, you get a reflex and it won't stop.
If there's a disc bulge in the neck, let's
say, or the thoracic spine, any place there's
a spinal cord, inflammation in the spinal
cord slows descending inhibition of a reflex.
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Thanks.
If, so the upper reflexes, the biceps, the
brachioradialis, and the triceps, those represent
or demonstrate whether or not the nerve root
that innervates that tendon is compromised.
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So if it's really inflamed, it's going to be reduced.
If it's really inflamed, it's going to be absent.
If it's normal, it'll be a little better.
brisk.
If there's a disc bulge above that
nerve root, it'll be hyperactive.
Or if the patient is hyperthyroid, or there's
some other things that'll make it hyper.
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Anyway, so that's the upper reflexes.
But the patellar reflexes, If there's inflammation
in the spinal cord, there's a constant dial
tone that comes down the spinal cord, dampens
the reflex, and keeps it down to a plus two.
If there's inflammation in the cord, conductivity is slowed,
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so it can't get to L3 in time to dampen the patella reflex.
a hyperactive, where instead of
just doing wonk, it goes wango.
That is plus three, and that
means the spinal cord's inflamed.
And that's, I actually had an MD tell
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me that she'd never heard that before.
It was a neurologist that taught, Bob Grimm taught me that.
. Then the Achilles is for whatever reason, not affected.
So it's really unusual to have
a hyperactive Achilles reflex.
But if the spinal cord is really inflamed, you'll get one
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or two beats of C CLOs when you pop the an the foot up.
The foot will bounce once or twice, so you record plus
one, they'll have clonus on one side, but not the other.
And that means that the disc is one sided.
Pretty much, with reflexes and sensation,
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you should be able to predict what the MRI
is going to look like, where the disc is.
What it's pressing on, how it operates,
she had completely normal sensation.
So the disc in her neck that produced increased tone all
the way down the left side had to be purely central because
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she has no nerve involvement and posterolateral discs
hit the nerve roots and create hyperesthesia or numbness.
Hers had to be central and I did 81 and 10.
So she left with a custom care and a magnetic converter.
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I said, the only thing you have to run with these wraps.
is body tightness, tight body.
That's it.
Cause she left and she could breathe.
And she said, when do I run it?
I said, when you feel tight and you're
10 years, you've been feeling tight.
So you're you used to it.
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The challenge is Get used to being
loose and when you feel tight, treat it.
Yeah, it's a really important concept for
people who have had a chronic injury or
chronic illness or chronic anything you do.
You get completely used to running it and then that's the.
The reason why 1489 became such a important frequency
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to run even during treatment before they move before
they get off the table, because we can assume, I
think, with quite a bit of confidence that they
are going to stop at that barrier that used to
be there, that created pain because We're smart.
Why would I blow through a barrier that created pain?
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Why would I move this way when that creates pain?
Then when you remove that pain as quickly as we
do, there is no way everybody's going to get on the
same page again and be like, Oh yeah, that's safe.
That's not going to hurt.
I'm just going to do this.
Once in a while, you do get that patient.
That's more often than not,
you're not getting that response.
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And if pain is the normal thing for you, when you
When it gets better in the office, and you, even if
you have a custom care, gets better in the office,
and then five days later, you feel tight again.
I've been tight for 10 years.
That's my normal state, and you almost
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forget that there's a solution for it.
And sometimes they just forget to run it.
Because tight is normal.
It's uncomfortable, it's painful, but that's who they are.
But I use the fact that patients
on the table are hypnotized.
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And I made eye contact and put my hand on her
shoulder and said, this is not who you are anymore.
This now, relaxed, pain free, comfortable.
This.
is normal and you just touch their shoulder and there we go.
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It's pretty fun.
That is a very important statement I think to
make to people because they do self identify.
I think working with athletes as well, and it's
not even a professional athlete, somebody who is a
runner self identifies as a runner and there is fear
and panic and terror when they have an ailment or a
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condition that is preventing them from running and
right away, what am I going to do if I can't run?
There's a hundred other exercises that you can
do in the meantime, but it is that it is what the
attach the identity with the condition, right?
And so to be able to reframe that, I
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think is a really important concept.
We talk about, we talked about
mantras a lot with Peter Twist.
We talked about it with Dr.
Musnick even.
And so I think even posing the question of when you
are recovered from this, what does your life look like?
Tell me what you will do.
Instead of how much pain are you in?
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I get it, but what is the goal, right?
What would you like to do?
And go there and talk about it.
I'm going to pick up my granddaughter.
I'm going to go for a walk with my spouse.
I'm going to put the mug on the top
shelf of the cupboard for the first time.
And what does that feel like?
And smile about it and attach something positive to it.
Yeah, let them create a picture.
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I found a tape.
I need to do either a webinar or an hour at the
advanced with slides on hypnosis and everyday clinical
practice, but I've never made slides about it because
it's, I didn't know how to make slides about it.
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And then I found a tape.
of a lecture I gave in to the American
Association of Naturopathic Physicians.
I don't have the slides but there's a lecture
so I can take the lecture, listen to it, and
make slides and figure out how to talk about it.
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Yeah.
Because I took the course on hypnosis and clinical
practice when I was 28 from the San Diego Society of
clinical hypnosis and they were all MDs and they use it
in their practice and every patient we see is hypnotized.
Yeah.
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And then learning to use that
deliberately is really powerful.
Yes.
Oh, I just lost it.
See, this is why I need to write
things down when you're talking.
Patient reframing.
Oh, the reformer.
Yeah, the reformer is a great tool and you don't have
to be a certified Pilates instructor to have one because
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you can start with proper mechanics that is in a, and
this is a big concept of the sports advanced course,
is an open chain versus a closed chain exercise.
A closed chain is.
weight bearing standing.
That's when the extremity is fixated on the floor typically.
So when you are horizontal, like on the reformer, and
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this is where we did all the amazing case studies, this is
how we formulated wipe and load when we had our swimmer.
The reason why we had him on the reformer so much is
because he is in a horizontal non weight bearing sport.
I don't need him to be vertically
loaded for proper mechanics.
So the reformer is really nice when you have cables for
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the upper extremity and you're able to move the whole
body through a chain that's non weight bearing because the
threat of injury is very low when you're non weight bearing.
So it's a beautiful tool to have at your
fingertips in those initial mechanical recreations.
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When I was at New Heights doing PT pre and post my
hip replacements, that was my cookie at the end of
my sessions was I got to be on the slidey thing.
The reformer is the slidey thing.
So when I built out the clinic, it gave me an excuse
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and a budget by a slidey thing and I get on it and play.
And I got to the point after my hip replacements where I
watched them rehab Prima Ballerina, who had broken her foot.
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And her final task was to With three or four springs
pushing off and leaping with her foot pointed with
both feet and then one foot and one foot so she
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could strengthen all the muscles and it requires
that your upper body be balanced and coordinated.
And so that's, that was my cookie and that's how my little
clinic as a reformer, and it's a perfect, I didn't, I don't
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know what you know about opening chain and closed chain.
I just knew that having her walk as
the first task was too much for her.
So she needed to get to know her legs.
on the reformer and then I said now walk clear
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back to Kevin's office and then walk this way and
her gait was different her it was just amazing to
see And to be able to do that with this as a tool.
There's no other, there's no other way.
81 and 10?
Who has, who can do that?
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I don't know.
Yeah.
We have a little question, I believe.
I would treat the liver for toxicity.
I don't know why I'd treat the liver.
I don't have any, we have a frequency for the tongue.
You could do the liver, because.
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What comes out in your saliva is what's circulating
in the fluid and all that comes from the liver
and chemo pretty much messes up the liver.
Unless the chemo is specific so that
it's going to damage the taste buds.
So then you could do toxicity in the tongue.
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That's a thought.
Diane says, The Reformer would
be great for patients with POTS.
POTS is so easy to fix.
It's really, I, it sounds silly when you say POTS is easy
to fix, but you fix POTS by getting the vagus to work.
They get up off the table and they don't have POTS.
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Vegas has as its job to slow the heart rate when you stand
up and if the Vegas is working, so you could do concussion
in Vegas, you could start them horizontal on the reformer.
But if you get their Vegas working, when they
stand up, they're not going to have pots.
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At least I've never had anybody that laid
down with pots that stood up with pots.
So right.
I have no mileage with that.
Derek, do you feel 321 49 on A and
534 on B could help with dementia?
Need something for calming down aggression?
I would do I'm not sure what 534 is, Derek.
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Neither.
Thank you for when you say those things, because I always
feel like after all these years I should know, but I don't.
No, 534 is one that I don't use.
What is 534?
It's George's frequency for the limbic system
and it has a little eye next to it and because it
doesn't work before I make before I take the little
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eye next to anything that George has scanned for.
I have to have a demonstration that it actually
does that part of the brain that it's described.
And he's got one for the limbic
system and the deep limbic system.
And as far as I can tell, they don't work.
40 and 89 could work.
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So calming down aggression, fear, anger.
We know the limbic system, the hypothalamus and the
thalamus and the hippocampus are in the midbrain.
So 40 in the midbrain might work and you wouldn't
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want to increase vitality, even if 534 worked for the
limbic system, you wouldn't want to increase vitality
and the limbic system because the limbic system is the
emotional part and that's where aggression comes from.
So what you want to do is calm down the limbic
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system because What happens in dementia is as
the cortex loses control over the limbic system.
So we all have, occasionally,
the desire to strangle somebody.
And the cortex says, no, that's not polite.
Why don't you just keep quiet?
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It's going to be fine.
We nod politely and walk away.
That's what the cortex says.
As you get dementia and your frontal lobe
goes away, then the limbic system has
no filter to, to prevent the aggression.
I would go after increased secretions and vitality and
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reduce inflammation in the cortex to create More of a
filter for the limbic system and quiet the midbrain to see
if that would work and honestly increase the Vegas, right?
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So Vegas increases circulation, nitric oxide, and decreases
inflammation and decreases all the bad stuff, decreases
glutamate, increases GABA, does all the good stuff.
So treat the Vegas.
Like crazy treat the cortex to get it to be a better filter.
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And there's a, yeah, it's the limbic
system, but Derek, do you see the logic?
It's understanding.
It's why during the advanced, I spend
so much time on the nervous system.
So you see the connections between everything.
The nervous system is fairly linear.
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Yeah.
This does that, this suppresses that, this
amplifies that, and this is connected to that,
and everything goes through, it's linear, right?
Yeah.
When can you run a concussion in Vegas after
the chemo should it depends on how the cancer
is doing the Vegas suppresses the immune system.
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If the chemo has been successful, the cancer is quiet.
I, you'd run toxicity in the Vegas and Harry used to
run just concussion support, support the adrenals.
Yeah.
emotional factors.
If you've had chemotherapy, you want to treat the liver.
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And I'd say once they tell you that your CA 125 is back down
in the normal range, then you can run concussion in Vegas.
I would think.
Hi Kathleen.
We had one, one thing I want to touch on before we
go, just because This is probably the most common
thing anybody is going to treat are sprained ankles.
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And I think that's why I talk about
sprained ankles so much and all the time.
But there is a very big difference between a
high ankle sprain and a normal inversion sprain.
Oh, totally different tissue.
Exactly.
So this is what I wanted to touch on.
And this is what we had tag
teamed the clarification on that.
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A normal inversion ankle is when you roll your ankle
and your ankle turns in and you go outside of it.
That's very common injury.
We don't have eversion sprains because
structurally it's very hard to actually evert.
We have a nice safe bony block there.
So you get that Inversion rolled ankle.
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That's the deltoid ligament gets typically really damaged,
torn, whatever, what degree is up to how your injury was.
But your big bang for your buck is going
to be torn and broken on the ligaments.
So 124, 100.
And you could do 77, the connective tissue, because
you've got the retinaculum can get banged up.
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783 makes it help feel better too.
that's the typical slam dunk.
A high ankle sprain is very painful.
You'll see these more with sports with rapid
acceleration where the foot is planted and
then there's a bit of a rotational force.
So the membrane in between the two lower leg
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bones, your tib fib, has this beautiful fibrous
Membrane called the interosseous membrane, that
in both directions diagonally, there's two layers.
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
So yes, it's beautiful, however excruciating
and can be very slow to heal because
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there's a lot of movement between the bones.
While we are typically moving away from a lot of
immobilization, you'll typically see those high ankle
sprains in a boot or a walking boot a little bit to.
Just keep those two bones a little more still,
so it's not as painful, but you want to be not
as focused on 100, but you want to shift your
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focus on that B channel to 77 and 142 and 783.
But it's just a very big, it's a small difference, but a
very big difference in your focus because of the anatomy.
That's, and that's why Netter is your friend.
Yes, look up the interosseous membrane and you can
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see it's connective tissue, not ligaments, even though
ligaments connect bone to bone, the interosseous membrane
is connective tissue that connects bone to bone, right?
And the membrane that it's a membrane.
So when you see words like band, retinaculum,
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membrane, those should be like jumping off as
connective tissue, 77, and fascia is everywhere.
So I feel like I'm running 142 just all the live
long day right now, because It's that is your friend.
Connective tissue is your friend.
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There's a comment over here, and this
relates to what Derek was asking.
Susan Jewett says, 40 and 89 worked very well in my
experience for anxiety and dementia and Alzheimer's.
It's very calming for the person.
Part of the reason that dementia patients
get aggressive is they're terrified.
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The sleep system, it just sees threat and everywhere
and it goes back to the very primitive emotions,
anger and aggression, but it comes from anxiety.
And thank you for the corroboration that
40 and 89 would be a good thing to do.
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But yes, same thing with, you're welcome, Derek.
Same thing with the high ankle sprain, cause it's,
that, that is one place where an orthopedic surgeon will
actually put a screw through from the fibula to, through
the tibia at an angle, and that screw is to be removed.
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But you have to, from a surgeon's standpoint,
you have to immobilize those two bones
so that interosseous membrane can heal.
Because otherwise they move, and every time they
move, the connective tissue gets disorganized.
And it's, they need to line up and get strong.
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Those two bones together.
Yeah I have a bit of a spark in my face right now
because I've been so successful at treating high
ankle sprains that people have gotten into trouble
because the next day the pain and the swelling,
especially the pain feels like it's almost gone.
Oh, I don't need this and I can keep walking and
I'm like, but healing still needs to take place.
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And I'm glad that you feel great,
but you still can't go running today.
No, no butts.
No.
It needs to heal.
And like you had said, if you open netters or you
Google it, it runs in this cross hatch pattern.
And so because it's trying to distribute
the forces between those two bones.
So it is typically the harder sprain to heal, but it
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doesn't again, I think it's quite easy when you just
shift your focus on, again, what is the tissue, right?
And that goes back, that's like FSM 101.
What is wrong and where is it occurring?
It's torn and broken or we need to repair and heal.
That's our new phrase for 124.
It needs repair and healing, but it's not
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like around ligament or ligament proper.
The membrane is It's a different kind of beast altogether.
And the other thing with high ankle sprains, at least
the few that I've treated, is that it's really difficult
to tear or strain the interosseous membrane without
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beating up the deltoid ligament at the same time.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It doesn't get damaged in isolation.
And again, it's just like everything.
with FSM is recreating the story.
How did we get here?
So it's what's wrong, where is it occurring, but
the other part of it is, how did we get here?
So yeah, you're right.
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It's like having, it's like having a
concussion without having the neck involved.
Exactly.
I go a little crazy when I hear, no, it's just a concussion.
His neck is fine.
Like the head isn't connected to the neck.
Like the head just levitated and hit
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something without the neck doing something.
Sure.
The next fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're not even going to look at the neck.
It's okay.
That's the other thing with concussions
is they don't check the inner ear.
It's just a question.
Where did you get hit?
Oh, back here.
You mean on the temporal bone, right over your inner ear?
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And we shouldn't check the jaw because the jaw was just
super happy and relaxed as this incident was happening.
Sure.
No, and this, the last clash that we did in
Troutdale, there were, How many 18 people and
20 percent of the class had vestibular injuries.
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Yeah.
Amazing.
Not surprising, but none of them knew it.
Yes.
And I handed out the B.
I.
V.
S.
to the whole group and the ones.
That filled them out, 46 over 18, 27
over 8, I, it's they just took the test.
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And, oh, that's what's wrong.
And 40 and 44 works for that.
Yes.
It does.
It takes the symptoms down.
That's good.
It can't be four o'clock already.
It is.
It is.
I don't want to go.
I don't want to go.
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I'm glad you're back.
And we'll be back next week too.
Yes, and then we're in person the week after that.
Ah, that's right.
Yes.
Oh, that's so exciting.
I know.
Yay.
All right.
Have a great week.
We'll see you next week.
And we've still so much of that
list to go through, but whatever.
We'll get to it when we get to it.
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Get some of your list done?
Yes.
Okay.
I can sleep tonight knowing some of the list is I
worry about your list sometimes, just so you know.
I think about your list.
It's like we need to get the little checkmarks done.
It's okay.
I think it's good the list keeps growing because we want
to keep asking questions and we want to keep Moving.
We don't want to stay stagnant.
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So the questions are, the list
should be continuing to flourish.
Agreed.
There's always the questions.
This is good.
I love the list.
Calm voices amidst the chaos.
Thank you.
That's, we aim to be the calm voices.
That's, oh there it is.
Thank you Melanie.
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Calm voices amidst the chaos.
Amen.
We're not even gonna go there.
No, we did so well.
We didn't even, podcast is over.
See you next week.
See you next week.
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