January 8, 2025 • 57 mins
In this episode, expert medical practitioners Kim Pittis and Dr. Carol discusses the frequency specific microcurrent (FSM) therapy, sharing a year in review and numerous patient case studies.
They delve into conditions such as frozen shoulder, low back pain, sacroiliac joint issues, endometriosis, corticobasal syndrome, and vestibular injuries, providing detailed insights into diagnosis, treatment techniques, and patient outcomes.
Additionally, they highlight the importance of medical imaging, patient history, and the use of adjunct treatments like magnesium supplementation. The episode also touches on the practical applications of FSM in clinical settings and patient education resources.
00:00 Introduction and New Year Greetings
00:20 Reflecting on the Past Year
00:45 Challenges in Treating Shoulder Conditions
01:38 Case Study: Nerve Pain and MRI Findings
04:03 Low Back Pain: Common Complaints and Protocols
06:28 SI Joint Issues and Treatment Approaches
12:14 Vestibular Injuries: Diagnosis and Patient Experiences
25:00 Endometriosis: Advanced Treatment Techniques
33:16 Understanding Vestibular Injuries
35:54 Vision Therapy vs Prism Glasses
41:30 The Role of the Omentum
43:55 Exploring Corticobasal Disease
47:43 Magnesium and Low Back Pain
56:56 Awards and Community
59:15 Conclusion and Sign-Off
Understanding Low Back Pain:
Low back pain remains a top complaint across various age groups, from athletes to octogenarians. It's crucial to differentiate the underlying causes, particularly when it comes to disc-related pain, which often manifests as leg pain rather than low back discomfort. The low back pain protocol, focusing predominantly on facets alongside addressing wear and tear in the annulus, serves as a comprehensive approach to this widespread issue. This protocol is especially beneficial when imaging isn't available or conclusive, laying a foundation for symptom management.
SI Joint Dysfunction - Unpacking the Complexity:
A fascinating exploration into sacroiliac (SI) joint dysfunction reveals its intricate nature. Whether caused by torque from improper adjustments, as when a drop table is improperly utilized, or exacerbated by tension from pregnancy, SI joint issues demand meticulous attention. Taping and targeted FSM treatment on the joint capsule and ligaments can significantly reduce nerve pain radiating to the legs. The role of the psoas muscle, especially following a C-section, further complicates SI joint recovery due to potential scarring and pelvic misalignment.
The Role of Compression Garments:
There’s ongoing discussion about utilizing compression shorts or sacroiliac belts to stabilize these joints. While sacroiliac belts can occasionally misalign the joint, compression shorts might offer a lateral stabilization that merits exploration. These garments can be crucial in transitioning from taping to fostering natural joint stability.
Navigating Vestibular Injuries:
Vestibular injuries, often overlooked, are prevalent among patients with chronic fatigue and other systemic symptoms. They frequently arise from seemingly minor incidents like car accidents or abrupt motion, causing disruptions in the vestibular system. Identifying these injuries often involves evaluating the patient’s history and using tools like the BIVSS. Prism glasses can be an effective interim solution, stabilizing one's visual field before more intensive therapies are introduced.
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Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
Merry Christmas!
All the things!
Yes!
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We, we had a great kind of year in
review, the last podcast that we had.
And of course, after we got off, I thought of
all these other things that we needed to, my
favorite word, unpack before the year ends.
But you know what, we'll just unpack them as we go for 2025.
Okay.
Things to unpack,
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there's always things to unpack there.
The more I get comfortable treating
a certain condition, the more I get.
Outliers that come in that are not outliers.
Maybe they're the new exception to the rule that I have to
take pause and say, okay, what am I supposed to see here?
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What am I supposed to learn here?
How can I see the shoulder different because I have had a.
Fast and Furious start to Shoulders in 2025.
Hmm.
The universe heard my love affair for the shoulder.
It heard me talking about Frozen Shoulder wasn't that hard.
Yeah, be careful what you wish for.
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That should be in the small print in the core someplace.
And You know my love affair with the sacroiliac joint?
Yes.
Had a
patient last week, nerve pain down both her legs.
Okay.
Back or the front?
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Both.
Basically,
L1, 2, 3, 4, 5, S1 and S2 on the right.
L2, 3, 4, 5, S1 on the left.
And she said, yes, I have an MRI that.
Says I have disc bulges in my low back.
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I treated for nerve pain.
It went away briefly.
Treated for disc repair.
And then the next day, she brought in her MRI
report.
There were no disc bulges.
She had a one millimeter bulge at L5 S1.
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And I went.
Everybody has a one millimeter bulge at
L5 that doesn't account for L1, 2, 3, and
4.
And then I said, tell me again about what that
naturopath did to your femur on a drop table.
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And then what she did the next week to
your trunk and pelvis on the other side.
Pulled on her left arm and held her trunk
and pelvis in place, and then pulled on
her left arm in rotation and flexion.
And then I stress tested both SI joints,
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and they moved too much, and they both hurt.
And I thought to myself, it can't be this easy.
And without treating any nerve pain, just treating for an
hour and 20 minutes on torn and broken in the ligaments,
and torn and broken in the connective tissue, back to front
across the SI joint, the nerve pain in her legs went away.
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Torn and broken in the joint capsule, too.
Yeah.
I missed it.
You didn't miss it for long, though.
That was only because disc repair and nerve
pain always works if it's a disc, right?
And so you said it did work, but just briefly.
Yeah, don't
think it's funny that you mentioned this.
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That's part of the list today because
low back pain consistently makes the
top five most common complaints in, U.
S.
healthcare.
Everybody has low back pain, whether they're young
athletes or octogenarians, it affects everybody.
And we always to your point, you just said.
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Everybody has a disc at L5 S1.
There's a time and a place to get really
excited about imaging, and there's a time
and a place to get excited about imaging.
When somebody comes in and they
says, Oh my God, look at my disc.
And you say if you image everybody, especially over
the age of 35, we're going to see degeneration.
The low back pain protocol, that program that is
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on the custom care, is phenomenal because it's
this all encompassing Menagerie of the wear and
tear in the annulus that everybody has, especially
active people that are prone to that compression
and rotation and sheer forces in the disc.
I think that's always a good place to start, especially
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when we don't have imaging and we don't know, and it
can take the pain down briefly because we all have these
pathology, right?
And the low back pain protocol is mostly facets.
Low back pain is always facets.
Discs don't cause low back pain.
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Maybe a little bit of low back pain, but
mostly disc cause leg pain, nerve pain.
So the low back pain protocol is
40 minutes of facets and right.
10 minutes of torn and broken in the annulus, what fooled me
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was she didn't have a mechanism of injury that I recognized.
I'm used to it.
By the time you finish the history, you
should know what you're going to find.
What you should do and what you're
going to find in the physical exam.
There was no mechanism by which I would have
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thought somebody should tear an SI joint.
Unless you have mold and other, she's not an allergist
analyst, so she's not hypermobile, but if a naturopath who
has one quarter, of manual therapy, adjusts you on a drop
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table and puts her hand on your A I I S and your femur, so
on your iliac crest and your femoral head and drops on it.
So we'll talk for lay people.
Number one, a drop table is exclusively, I'm not sure
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even if it's exclusive, I've been to many different,
Health practitioners that use drop table adjustments
that are not chiropractors, but they're tables
that drop in certain areas to provide adjustments.
Gives you a controlled impulse.
That's fairly shallow, never raises up
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more than about an inch, inch and a half.
And then there's other movement she did on the left.
It occurred to me that it could have created sheer forces
at a disc, but to tear the upper part of the SI joint.
So when I treated her SI joints and then taped
her SI joints, she left with her pain, came in
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with her pain at a seven, left with her pain
at a one, treating the SI joints and no moving
bones on her legs.
That was quite bilateral too.
Very bilateral.
And it's
okay.
I want to put you on the spot, but what are your
thoughts on compression shorts and something like
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that, instead of taping, or to merge from taping
to, because the compression shorts that we used to
have in Canada were very good for stabilizing SI.
So the chiropractic clinic that I worked
at, we had sold them with good results, but.
Chiropractors use sacroiliac belts, so the
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compression shorts may have the advantage of
taking both iliums and shoving them inward.
Mm
Sacroiliac belts, which are supposed to stabilize the
SI joint, have the disadvantage of being able to wing
the SI joint forward or back, and You can do either one.
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So I've never used compression shorts.
I'm assuming the compression is lateral,
and that would just shove the SI joint
inward, and it should work.
I've never used them.
Just thinking.
The exciting part for me is when we go from identifying
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the pathology and treating the pathology, and then the
fun for me comes doing the corrective exercise to get
everything that has been either offline back online
again, and my favorite analogy is getting the trifecta.
So we're talking about the low back.
So we're talking about the erector spinae, the
glutes, and then the anterior Musculature, the
deep transverse abdominus to get all three of
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those groups playing together in the sandbox again,
and having torn both of my SI joints over the
years, one of them twice, all of the exercises I
was given were for Glu medias, Glu minimus, the
things that hold the SI joint together until the SI
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ligaments are stable, you don't get to do anything.
So the other thing that diagnosis gave us was
expectation so people see us on the podcast and we tell
these success stories and they think, oh, it's a 1 or
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2 visit fix and the expectation with an SI joint is.
It's, it's three months before you expect any improvement.
Now, if we're lucky, and if she keeps it taped,
and if nothing unfortunate happens, maybe it's
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better in six weeks, like a sprain would be.
But we're talking about the strongest
ligaments and connective tissue in the body.
The strongest joint in the body.
It's a keystone.
Hold your upper body to your lower body.
And six months on me, it was 12
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months because I was traveling.
Tape wasn't on all the time.
I was lifting stuff.
But when I got pain down my leg, I knew what it was.
And it was like, oh here we go.
And it's, the diagnosis is the gift.
And the expectation.
No, this is not, you're not going
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to be better by next Tuesday.
And you need to find a physical therapist that'll
keep it taped when you go back to Arizona.
And, she had a bunch of other symptoms
that she associated with mold and etc, etc.
And did the vestibular screen because I do it on everybody.
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And her BIVSS score was 41.
No, 26.
Oops.
what, having to explain it to her and then seeing
the blank look in her face, I came home, had
dinner, and after dinner, wrote up, instructions?
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Information about vestibular injuries for patients.
So there is now a three page handout that will,
as soon as I get it to Kevin will be on the
practitioner resource page because it talks
about what causes them, what the symptoms are.
and what the treatments are.
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And it included something I don't
even talk about in the Corps.
And that is legal.
If you are stopped by a police officer for whatever
reason and as a matter of course because he's doing it
to everybody because it's January 30th or whatever, he
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wants you to do a drunk driving, field sobriety test.
You can do the breathalyzer and blow zero,
but they still want a field sobriety test.
I couldn't pass one.
I have Meniere's.
So we have a friend that's a state patrol
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officer and I took off my glasses and I
said, go ahead, do a field sobriety test.
And he did the thing with his finger
and he said, your eyes bounce.
I said, yes, I have my neighbors.
And he said, no, I want you to walk heel to toe.
I said, I can't.
I have an airs.
And so the last instruction on that patient information
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is get a note from your doctor and put it in your wallet.
We should have bracelets.
But a note from an ENT, a note from me, a note
from you, a note from somebody that says this
patient has a vestibular injury and will have these
symptoms and cannot pass a field sobriety test.
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Right.
Rely on the breathalyzer and hope for the best.
It was interesting.
Yes, that will be a great resource for us to have because
just like the vagus nerve, vestibular injuries are one
of those things that we learned about and you learn about
them, and then you think, okay, whatever, and they appear
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on patient history forms, but they are so prevalent when you
start looking for them, and we have the, VIVSS to look at to
help us with just giving us, it helps connect the dots, and
it gives patients this, what is the word I'm looking for?
Objective.
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Give us a number.
No.
Yeah, I think, especially, I'm searching more for when they
don't know they have a vestibular injury and then they're,
it's like a, I don't want to say relief, but it's that,
okay, somebody identified and connected the dots for me.
There's a reason for all these symptoms, because they
have been diagnosed with all sorts of other conditions.
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Something else happened, speaking of
vestibular injuries, thank you very much.
You're welcome.
We give the BIVSS to every new patient.
So this patient came in, he's older, used to love to
ride his bicycle, had an accident at some point, and
he filled out the BIVSS and his score was like, okay.
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Eight.
Okay, that's negative.
And then.
He came back in for a second visit and picked up the
resonance effect in the waiting room and was reading it
and there was something he had a positive
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vestibular screen with the bouncing of the
eyes and the lateralization, but his B.
I.
V.
S.
S.
was eight.
That's that's weird.
I said, now that you've been trying,
how long since you've read a book?
Oh, I've been busy.
How long since you've read a book?
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Don't know, seven or eight years?
Now that you've been trying to read a book,
do me a favor and fill out this form again.
And the score was 41.
And it, he simply
avoided all of the things that would give him symptoms.
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So his scores were either seldom or never.
Because he didn't do the family shopping and
he never went to Costco and he read a book.
You start to protect yourself from those
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things that give you symptoms, like you said.
Costco, or Christmas shopping, right?
We just came off of the holidays, and I don't know
about you, but the people that are coming in have this
extra layer of Stress and thickness to their symptoms
and the people with vestibular injuries that are forced
to go out and shop and everything is more crowded and
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that is intolerable and it makes everything feel worse.
I know for myself, even just clinically saying
because your vestibular injury, it's normal
to have this and this and this oh, it is.
Yeah, I actually got it.
Can you write me a note that I can't
do any more Christmas shopping?
I'm like, sure, Santa will be a little late
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this year or you'll have to do everything
through Amazon and that will be okay.
You don't need to, or, just the recognition,
I guess is the word I'm looking for.
And I think that's validation, validation,
recognition, something that people who, like you
said, are, who had been giving all these little
micro diagnoses of you have this, you have this,
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you have this, but have never put it all together.
Yeah.
And for patients with shoulder problems, if they never have.
a reason to do this, they don't
know that they can't do that.
Yeah.
It's like everything is this high or they
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have a son or a husband or a taller partner.
Or another arm.
So we see this a lot with frozen
shoulder for on the driver's side, right?
Where you would normally reach back with your
left hand, grab your seatbelt and pull it across.
Or when the Abduction and external rotation becomes painful.
You'll just use your other arm, grab
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the seatbelt and pull it across.
Exactly.
So we're sneaky means as humans adaptive.
We are
adaptive creatures.
Yes, and I'm glad we are adaptive, but the adaptations
that people have can that is your job is for the
practitioners that are listening or to look for the
adaptations or we call them compensations because.
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Especially people who are active or type A or who are stoic.
There's so many different people that fall into the
category of when they're injured, they don't slow down.
They find a different way to get something done.
Exactly.
Running through the pain.
I'd say that's a good way to put it.
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Running through the pain.
It's, hmm, I wonder who we know that might do that.
I don't know.
We have a couple questions before we go forward.
Someone was on an SI joint here that I wanted to talk about.
Alf said, I've been seeing a woman with
hypermobile SI joints persisting years
later after being pregnant and delivery.
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Yes.
Oh dear.
Yes, there, there's that.
There's, there is that.
So a lot of times when women are
pregnant, everything becomes lax, right?
So we hear our pelvises are always the culprit of
what we would imagine to be very movable and after
delivery, It would be beautiful if things would just
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go back to symmetry but that's not often the case.
So when we do assessments with the SI joint, even monitoring
like the pubic tubercles, we'll see a big difference.
So there's that shear force.
So what's happening at the front
is also happening on the backside.
So think of an SI joint that has been stuck in that kind
of sheared position for so long, and then has gone back.
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It's something that we absolutely see after delivery.
And when you see the pubic bone tilted
and the SI joints tilted, I look at the
psoas, especially if she had a C section.
Bleeding causes scar tissue.
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There's the ureter.
It's retroperitoneal, but some C sections are less
than tidy if everybody's in a hurry for good reason.
And it's, so the psoas, when
there's an SI joint, the SI joints
are lax, or, patients will say they're, they're
out of place, they're tilted, and we go in and work
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on the psoas, and the psoas is connected to the
iliacus is connected to the pelvis, and the psoas
pulls the iliacus up, and so it's going to tilt the
pelvis, and you can look at the, Pubic tubercles.
And persisting years later after pregnancy
and delivery, the, the persisting years later
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is they don't ever get treated and they don't
always, they're not always just pregnant once.
So you have three children in five
years, which is not out of the ordinary.
Yes.
And you're, it's like your SI joints about the time
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they heal or start to heal, you're pregnant again.
And then everything goes squishy.
So you can bear the child, then deliver the child.
And then they start to heal.
And then it depends on what you do.
With your legs, your hips, do you love
rollerblading as a way of relieving stress
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or running as a way of relieving stress?
So your SI joints are always being asked to do this.
Right.
And then you sit on the floor cross legged or sit on the
floor playing with the kids and the SI joints do that.
When are you going to heal
right?
I'm going to add one more thing of just something that I had
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seen with a new patient a couple weeks ago similar story.
So we have one baby and that's great.
And then we get pregnant and we have another baby.
So what are we doing with our, as we're pregnant,
we've got a toddler propped up on our hips
so that we can still, so that deviation that
happens is so common with women that have had.
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One, two, multiple babies, because going from infancy,
the minute they're able to hold their head up, we
shimmy that baby over onto the side of our hip, and
that's not a great position for a healing pelvis.
That little iliac crest is a nice shell foe.
Perfect.
I'm not sure it was designed for babies though.
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It probably was.
If you think about it,
and it'd be great in a perfect world if we
would have the mindset to alternate those hips
and use our non-dominant hand once in a while.
But that just doesn't happen.
Can't stir soup with my left hand.
It's really not Pretty
. Going with the whole female anatomy leaf had asked
about an advancement in treating Endometriosis.
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I found
pictures from Taiwan when we treated the girl
that had abdominal adhesions from endometriosis.
They had an ultrasound machine that also had a Doppler.
They had ultrasound that picked up the scar tissue between
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the layers of the fascia, between the ovary and the tube.
And then they turned the Doppler
on and saw the inflammation.
Bright red all over the abdomen.
So I treated the scar tissue, then treated 40 for
inflammation and with endometriosis, the frequency
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for the endometrium is 155 and When you, if you ever
get to see a surgery for endometriosis scar tissue,
it's like somebody sprinkled paprika in the abdomen.
There's little red spots everywhere.
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And in the textbooks, they call them chocolate
cysts, and they look like they're big.
brown blood clots.
They're not.
They're paprika.
It's everywhere.
And so inflammation and 284 dissolve
the blood clot in the endometrium.
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But if you're going to dissolve the
blood clot, what's that going to do?
It's going to start a bleeding.
So you treat the inflammation, you treat the blood clot.
But then you run, stop the bleeding and you treat
the scar tissue because the endometrium bleeds
every month when you have a period, because your
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endometrial lining just isn't just inside your uterus.
It's paprika everywhere.
And so they bleed.
And that causes abdominal adhesions, including
scarring in the vagus, the small bowel, the omentum.
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We have a wonderful case report on
why you need to treat the omentum.
That's coming up at the symposium.
I'm excited.
And so that's the biggest advancement leaf is finding
out that you need to take apart the scar tissue.
Remember to include the vagus, scarring in the small bowel,
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scarring in the ovary, the tube, the uterus, the bladder.
The thing with endometriosis is that because
the scar tissue is everywhere, I have seen
where the sigmoid colon was adhered to the left
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ovary and rolled Over and scarred to
the anterior surface of the bladder.
Wow.
So during the last five day core, we had two
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patients where you took the sigmoid and unglued
it from the ovary and glued it from the tube.
But then we actually had to unglue everything from the top
of the bladder to get the sigmoid back where it belonged.
And then we checked.
The right side and found out that the same thing had
happened to the secum and the ascending colon, so everything
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gets folded into this ball of scar tissue in the middle,
and then it's inflammatory because it bleeds every month.
So inflammation.
2 84 chronic inflammation, but then finish
with 18 and 62, stopping the bleeding and
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the arteries and the endometrium 1 55.
So it is an advancement and it means I have yet one more
thing on my to-do list, which is to do a webinar or a
video on treating abdominal adhesions and what to look for.
And the trick with that is finding.
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A patient and stopping myself from treating them waiting
until we get a video camera and then doing the lecture and
the slides and the video on because the manual technique is
pretty flat fingered and sensitive because it's so tender.
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And you don't.
Need like everything else that I try to correct
when we're teaching is the pressure that you
would normally need to pull apart adhesions
or to do any type of visceral manipulation.
You have to remove yourself and let the frequencies
do all the heavy lifting and you are just there
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to guide because, visceral work is of the.
Most painful things to visceral work, TMJ
work without FSM, I'm not sure that I would
even attempt it anymore, to be honest.
No, and the same thing working on the subscap at a
shoulder yesterday, and it's like Geneva convention.
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It shocks me because I've seen so
many shoulders in the last two months.
It's shocking.
And I'm not exaggerating.
I'm gobsmacked and I'm dumbfounded.
How many times these patients have never
had their scapula assessed or treated?
Yeah.
Because the presentation is, pain in the, and I'm, those
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of you who are just listening on the podcast, I'm pointing
to my shoulder, the bony protuberance on the lateral side.
The pain is here.
And I'll start getting into their subscap
said, no, the pain isn't in my armpit.
It's here.
I'm like, I understand that, but your scapula doesn't move.
And it is stuck in internal rotation and adduction.
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And the thing it won't do is external rotation
and abduction, which is the reason this hurts.
And right, which means we have to fix.
Trust me.
And then you put your fingers in their armpit
and they understand that hurts way more than
anything that they thought hurt in their shoulder.
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And then they believe you.
And then they believe you.
And then their shoulder blade starts moving
and the stress on the, supraspinatus and the
lateral and anterior delts just goes away.
Because the kinrestant doesn't have to
work so hard to lift the arm up anymore.
That's hard.
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Try so hard.
A couple more questions before we go any further.
Leave.
Thank you.
Yes, Louise.
Can one have vestibular issues
without any recollection of injury?
Are prism glasses always indicated?
Where can we access the assessment and
how to do a proper vestibular exam?
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Oh dear.
It's, the first one, can anybody have a
vestibular injury without memory of injury?
And I say, heck yes.
Oh yeah,
A lot.
I think more often than not, they don't think
of anything that caused the vestibular injury.
Yeah, I had an auto accident.
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And in this particular patient's case, she was
a passenger in a car and they got hit on the
driver's side, front quarter and spun the car.
And then the car ran into a post.
So there's rotary motion and then a sudden stop.
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The vestibular system has a little
bit of room, but it doesn't take much.
In the way of a pressure wave to injure the
endolymphatic system, if the airbag goes off, if
you have your head turned, I've had patients who had
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vestibular injuries just because they were looking.
And the rearview mirror saw it
coming, and that meant that they hit
the mastoid right behind the ear when they were rear ended.
And the head whips,
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they don't connect anything with it.
They know their neck hurts for five
years afterwards, and nobody knows why.
They know they have anxiety and digestive
problems, and they've been diagnosed with H.
pylori, mind you, without a positive hydrogen
bacteria test, but that's another conversation.
(32:44):
SIBO, because I'm nauseous all the
time, and I have chronic fatigue.
I'm better in the summer, but then the
chronic fatigue really hits in the winter.
Does it rain where you live in the winter?
Yeah, okay.
(33:05):
And that set of symptoms leads you down the vestibular path.
And I've missed so many vestibular injuries that
it is part of every new patient physical exam I do.
Take a tuning fork, put it in the middle of the head.
(33:25):
If it lateralizes, they have a vestibular injury.
They may or may not be hyperacoustic, and the saccades,
the bouncing of the eyes, may be hard to pick out.
If the injury happened when they were young, like before the
(33:46):
age of ten, the brain learns to suppress the eye bouncing.
Doesn't mean they don't have a vestibular
injury, but you have to provoke it or fatigue it.
And the way you know that they're
suppressing it is they blink.
They don't bounce, but they'll
(34:07):
blink and jump back to the center.
Hmm,
interesting.
And is there anything except prism glasses?
I actually had one FCOVD fellow of the College of Optometry
and Visual Development in a core, sat in the third row.
And she said, I never prescribed prism glasses.
(34:31):
I always do, what do they call it?
Vision, vision therapy.
And the purpose of vision therapy is to get
your eyes to work anyway by forcing them to.
I have some opinions about that.
Number one, vestibular therapy or
(34:51):
vision therapy makes me nauseous.
And there's no circumstance under which I can
be nauseated or motion sick three days a week.
Number two, vision therapy is much
more expensive than prison glasses.
Prison glasses are more expensive than regular glasses.
You can buy cheap frames and get prism lenses put
in them, but vision therapy is much more expensive,
(35:14):
takes longer, and sometimes it doesn't work.
My patients, when I send them to the optometrist
here, have to be in prism glasses for three to
six months before they do vision therapy, because
the brain Has to know what normal is, right?
(35:35):
How do you, how do you know what you're training for, right?
If you have never in your life run or you've never
seen anybody run, you've only seen people walk.
You have only walked.
The concept of training for a
marathon is completely foreign.
(35:59):
So I wear prison glasses.
And I refuse to do vision therapy because I'm a brat.
Think you're a brat with good reason.
Like you said in, I think a lot of people Just can't
afford that sickness, that accompanies the vision therapy.
And I am not saying to never do it.
I'm sure there's, I do know a lot of athletes
(36:20):
that do it, but it is in tandem with other things.
It is in the off season.
It is an adjunct to a lot of things.
Not, not the only thing.
Yeah, no Prism glasses aren't always indicated,
but I think, especially you've got much more
mileage with this because you have them yourself.
It makes sense for, again, that
(36:40):
safety that you're talking about.
You can't train something that's foreign or that's something
that is perceived to be damaging or to be symptom inducing.
And if your brain, that's the other thing, the BIVSS,
which is the questionnaire we use for vestibular injuries.
(37:01):
Is the brain injury visual system symptom questionnaire.
So I have one patient that I sent to the FCOVD that I
use, the optometrist I use for prism glasses, and she
came back and she said he put me in vision therapy.
She had had a brain scan at the Amen clinic, and the lower
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portion of her temporal lobe on the injured side is missing.
It just.
Not there.
So I called the optometrist.
And he explained why he preferred
vision therapy for this patient.
I said, that's completely reasonable, but
(37:46):
did she tell you about the brain scan?
The part of her brain that you're
trying to retrain does not exist.
It is not functional.
It is not absorbing or circulating
or having a mitochondrial function.
It's just gone.
Tom.
(38:07):
Oh,
can we try prism glasses and see how they work?
That always concerns me, I have to block
it out, is the fact that FSM practitioners.
No more about vestibular injuries than 97.
(38:30):
I used to say 95.
It's probably 97 percent of the MDs, including
neurologists and neuro optometrists in this country.
It's crazy.
And it's just because I got lucky and
happened to be around these 3 guys.
And we all saw the same group of patients
(38:50):
that were diagnosed with chronic fatigue.
And that's where I found out that 100 percent
of these patients had vestibular injuries.
Okay.
And they were seeing these three specialists.
And that's where I learned about it.
And then I started telling and now it's, I wish
(39:12):
I could move it further forward in the core.
But it's, you have to have it, I think, where it is.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So do we
have other questions?
Yeah.
So Leif, I just want to go back to Leif really quickly.
He had asked, he said, in the buddy,
I find no frequency for omentum.
So the omentum is adipose.
So we use 97 for omentum.
(39:35):
And it's also very well vascularized as you'll find out.
And it has a lot of lymphatic tissue.
So I have a patient or friend who had ovarian cancer.
Stage two had not spread to the peritoneum, yay, but they
(39:58):
took out her omentum because it has so much lymphatic
tissue that if you were a cancer cell that was going
to be picked up by the lymphatic system and from an
ovary to a lymphatic tissue, it would get picked up.
By the so they took the momentum out
(40:20):
fast.
I, we talked a lot about the momentum in the sports advanced
course, and I told the story where there was a person that
didn't understand the word momentum, but I had made it up.
It was a Canadian term and Dr.
Heather was there.
Anesthesiologist was like, you
need to learn about the momentum.
It is.
(40:40):
Full of it stores information.
It stores toxicity.
It's like you said very vascularized lymphatic.
So a lot of traffic goes through the momentum.
So if you hadn't thought about using 97 when you're
doing abdominal work, you're going to want to do it.
Just thinking about what the momentum can store and hold and
(41:03):
how much, like I said, traffic goes through the momentum.
And one of its functions, believe it or not, is
to provide squishy things for the small intestine.
So it sits down in between the loops of the small intestine.
And that's where sclerosis in the adipose is the
(41:28):
finishing touch to treating abdominal adhesions.
You want the omentum to be slidey glidey.
And that's what 3N97 does.
It's
pretty fun.
Glidey glidey.
We do have another question.
I might have to Google this one.
Have you ever treated corticobasal disease?
(41:51):
Corticobasal that I know about is I'm
going to Google search this really quick.
Corticobasal syndrome, I'm guessing, also known as
corticobasal degeneration, a rare brain disease that
causes a gradual loss of nerve cells in the brain.
Symptoms include movement problems, stiffness,
slowed movement, difficulty controlling one
(42:12):
side of the body, language problems, thinking
behavior changes, memory problems, CBS is caused
by a buildup of tau proteins in the brain.
form harmful clumps in brain cells could
be due to a gene mutation of chromosome 17.
CBS symptoms start on one side, spread to the other.
It is an atypical parkinsonism, which means
(42:34):
it shares some features with Parkinson's
disease, but it has distinct characteristic.
It is different because it is not responsive to levodopa.
Right, and whereas Parkinson's presents
as stiffness, I've only seen two or three
CBS patients, It's movement and balance.
(42:56):
Parkinson's is stiffness, like the face doesn't move.
They have this mask.
They have a resting tremor.
Corticobasal doesn't have a tremor as far as I know.
But they have trouble with balance, and they
will have a similar complaint as Parkinson's.
I keep falling.
(43:16):
And then the ones I've seen were early towards mid stage.
And problems with movement and balance, and I've
never seen one that was advanced enough to include.
The verbal part, and I don't know what part
(43:38):
of the brain, I think of it as a brainstem
cerebellar headed towards the midbrain.
So is it motor function where the language problem comes,
or is it in the Broca's area where you turn thoughts.
Yes, the motor.
(44:00):
It's what?
Motor.
The speech.
Yeah.
So it's like you.
You can't make the words, the movement, so it's, I
just think of it as, yeah, it's something we can't fix.
You can try that, that thing that I start the advanced
(44:22):
with, the thought experiment about Alzheimer's.
You could try that and change the
tissues to the cerebellum, the medulla,
the vagus, because vagus is part of
the motor, part of the mouth, maybe.
(44:45):
But it's, it's a bad diagnosis.
It's just, it's just bad.
Concussion and vagus, a good support system.
They will be accompanied by a caregiver
and make sure the caregiver gets treated.
It's, it's one of those.
It's just not,
(45:05):
we don't always get to vote.
And it's not always pretty.
Yes.
Okay.
Dana, anecdotal low back pain relief
by magnesium citrate laxative.
I've also been using FSM, but the addition of magnesium
citrate laxative seemed to have an instant relief effect.
Could this be synergistic with FSM?
(45:27):
Interesting!
Magnesium citrate is magnesium that is not absorbed.
Magnesium glycinate Magnesium malate are absorbed.
Citrate is not.
So it concentrates in the stool and the body seeks balance.
(45:51):
So with all this magnesium in the stool that's
going through, the colon's job is to reabsorb water.
When there's all this magnesium on the inside and not that
much magnesium on the outside, it doesn't absorb the water.
It is so it makes the stool softer
so magnesium citrate is a laxative.
(46:14):
Could the low back pain have had
something to do with constipation?
That's not completely out of the question.
And then you'd start asking about, was there an abdominal
surgery that, what happened before the low back pain?
(46:38):
Was there an abdominal surgery?
Was there, magnesium oxide is the
other one that's not absorbed.
Thank you, Lynn.
And so the, so the, the link is the
magnesium citrate operates as a laxative.
So what is there about being constipated
(46:59):
that made the low back pain worse?
Because it's not as if, it's okay.
Your information is different than mine, Lynn.
But that's.
Okay, magnesium citrate is not something
you use to make your muscles feel better.
That's glycinate or malate.
(47:20):
Glycinate is good for the brain, the heart.
the muscles.
Malate is specific for the muscles.
Oxide is not something I've ever used and citrate
was what was prescribed to me as a laxative.
So if Lynn knows that citrate is, and the chelated
forms, yes, it's what they're chelated with.
(47:44):
So they're, that's, this is true.
Anyway, so the, the link between the two is low back pain.
and constipation, especially if it's citrate.
If the patient says, my low back pain got better when I
took magnesium malate, then you go looking for muscles.
(48:06):
If the patient says, my low back pain got
better when I took magnesium citrate or oxide.
I always think of oxide makes me think of that
stuff that you put on your nose zinc oxide.
Yeah.
And it's I don't want to put that in my colon.
So it's, it's, it's knowing that citrate is laxative.
(48:30):
That, that takes you down what questions you ask.
They could be synergistic, but how
constipated has the patient been?
Are there adhesions?
That's what I just jumped to instantly, is if there's
relief in the bowel, there's less pressure, there's
(48:51):
less tension, if there's adhesions, everything,
you use that word, like the, the squishy glidey
flowy, like how our organs are supposed to move.
If there's stool compacted in the large intestine,
like that is going to cause low back pain.
Yeah.
So I wonder that'd be interesting.
And
just the weight of it.
(49:12):
If you guess how much there could be sitting down
there that your low back muscles have to hold up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Okay.
There's that.
There's a couple other comments that popped in.
I just want to make sure.
Carrie had written, We'll try to get to as much as we can.
(49:33):
Five minutes!
I have a complicated client.
One of her mysteries is when she exercises,
taking a walk or anything, she becomes very
fatigued after 15 minutes, feels so miserable she
has to go home, lie down, wait for it to pass.
She calls it malaise.
Where are we?
It's in the
Q& A.
Yeah,
Halfway.
I'll delete some of these ones that we talked about.
(49:55):
So that's done.
Yeah, Parkinson's is a substantial eyebrow.
Yeah,
3C sections 7 years ago,
adhesions from the surgery, exacerbating
low back pain by constipation.
Yay, Dana.
Woohoo.
Okay, so it's Carrie's question.
Okay.
Complicated.
(50:15):
One of her mysteries when she exercises, very fatigued.
Okay.
If that was my patient, sure.
The next step would be a cardiologist,
right?
Does that make sense?
Yes.
Goes for a walk
for 15 minutes and becomes very fatigued.
(50:39):
Once she has a negative or normal
EKG, then we can have a conversation.
But until then, it's
not, not safe.
Magnesium chloride.
Okay.
Careful with DMSO leaf.
DMSO is dimethyl sulf something or other.
(51:05):
It is a carrier that'll take anything that it is mixed with.
or touches through the skin into the body.
It's a great way to poison.
I watch mysteries.
So it's a great way to poison somebody by putting
a poison on the handle of their cane with DMSO.
(51:28):
They put their hand on the cane, the poison is absorbed
and they're dead before they hit the front door.
So DMSO, when you use it, so they found out by
accident because it's a solvent, they found out
by accident that it made low back pain better.
That was interesting.
(51:50):
And over the last 40 years, 50 years, 60 years, when
you use DMSO, you use a clean sterile tongue depressor
to put the DMSO on your skin and you add whatever
(52:10):
you're going to add to the DMSO and mix it on the skin
and then spread it around with the tongue depressor
because your other hand has been on the doorknob.
Was washed with soap, might have hand lotion in it, on it.
Think about what complete and instant
(52:32):
absorption of anything it carries into the skin.
Makes you think.
Yes.
Couple more comments about magnesium.
We thought this would have been such a hot topic tonight.
Yeah.
Tad had written a couple things Here,
Okay, I hadn't heard that, but if that
(52:53):
says so, I'm willing to believe it.
Louise had written something about an acupuncture
L5 level is the SHU point for large intestine.
Ah, okay then.
Yes, alkaline uses up HCl.
Yeah, I don't like magnesium oxide and
(53:19):
magnesium citrate was more bioavailable.
Okay, you got to prove that one to me, Elf.
I think you put an article, he put, he cited
an article.
I see it and it doesn't make any sense.
It's not absorbed.
It's bioavailable means it's available to the
system and that means it's absorbed and it's
(53:43):
okay, then how is it such a good laxative?
And magnesium glycinate is not, nor is magnesium malate.
Who knew magnesium would be such a hot topic?
I, I don't know.
I don't either.
I had so much fun today.
Yeah, it always goes by way too fast.
And, no I
(54:05):
got to go to the trophy shop and order
the awards for the advanced and symposium.
Excellent segue.
We have the Ruth Johnston Award
going to two people this year.
Wow.
So that's the third time that's happened.
Wow.
And we have a Leap Award, which you might recognize.
(54:28):
Yes.
This award has only been given out twice before.
Wow.
You got one.
Jodi Adams got one.
Yes.
Now we have one other surprise guest.
That is, I love the awards.
I love watching it.
People take so much pride in getting them, It's such
(54:49):
a wonderful community to be a part of, and to cheer
each other on, and just to see the leaps and bounds,
so like the Leap Award is so aptly named, as is the
Ruth Johnson Award, that might be one of my favorite
awards that I've ever got, because of just the person
that I feel I know because of the stories you've told,
yeah,
and the other people that get it.
(55:10):
It's a sort of a who's who, Jeff Bland and Christy
Hughes and George Douglas and, you, the people that
have gotten it are the ones that make FSM progress.
And and The Leap are people that just leap.
(55:35):
Yeah.
It's like that scene in,
Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Yeah.
It gets to the edge of the cliff.
Yes.
It's there's nothing here.
It says I'm supposed to set.
Okay.
And he goes like that and takes the step.
(55:56):
Yeah, exactly.
But you have that belief somewhere deep
down that not only is it going to all be
all right, but like life is about to change.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good way to end the day.
Wonderful way to end.
So excited about the advance and seeing everybody in
March, the big old family reunion that we get to have.
(56:18):
So if you haven't signed up for the advance, do it.
It's going to be fun, always fun
and keep the questions coming.
Happy new year to everybody that tunes
in and listens to us and comes live.
It's so much fun every Wednesday to be part of this.
So grateful.
Yeah.
And with that, we will see you all next Wednesday.
(56:38):
See you
next Wednesday.
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Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
Merry Christmas!
All the things!
Yes!
(00:20):
We, we had a great kind of year in
review, the last podcast that we had.
And of course, after we got off, I thought of
all these other things that we needed to, my
favorite word, unpack before the year ends.
But you know what, we'll just unpack them as we go for 2025.
Okay.
Things to unpack,
(00:40):
there's always things to unpack there.
The more I get comfortable treating
a certain condition, the more I get.
Outliers that come in that are not outliers.
Maybe they're the new exception to the rule that I have to
take pause and say, okay, what am I supposed to see here?
(01:03):
What am I supposed to learn here?
How can I see the shoulder different because I have had a.
Fast and Furious start to Shoulders in 2025.
Hmm.
The universe heard my love affair for the shoulder.
It heard me talking about Frozen Shoulder wasn't that hard.
Yeah, be careful what you wish for.
(01:24):
That should be in the small print in the core someplace.
And You know my love affair with the sacroiliac joint?
Yes.
Had a
patient last week, nerve pain down both her legs.
Okay.
Back or the front?
(01:45):
Both.
Basically,
L1, 2, 3, 4, 5, S1 and S2 on the right.
L2, 3, 4, 5, S1 on the left.
And she said, yes, I have an MRI that.
Says I have disc bulges in my low back.
(02:05):
I treated for nerve pain.
It went away briefly.
Treated for disc repair.
And then the next day, she brought in her MRI
report.
There were no disc bulges.
She had a one millimeter bulge at L5 S1.
(02:26):
And I went.
Everybody has a one millimeter bulge at
L5 that doesn't account for L1, 2, 3, and
4.
And then I said, tell me again about what that
naturopath did to your femur on a drop table.
(02:49):
And then what she did the next week to
your trunk and pelvis on the other side.
Pulled on her left arm and held her trunk
and pelvis in place, and then pulled on
her left arm in rotation and flexion.
And then I stress tested both SI joints,
(03:12):
and they moved too much, and they both hurt.
And I thought to myself, it can't be this easy.
And without treating any nerve pain, just treating for an
hour and 20 minutes on torn and broken in the ligaments,
and torn and broken in the connective tissue, back to front
across the SI joint, the nerve pain in her legs went away.
(03:36):
Torn and broken in the joint capsule, too.
Yeah.
I missed it.
You didn't miss it for long, though.
That was only because disc repair and nerve
pain always works if it's a disc, right?
And so you said it did work, but just briefly.
Yeah, don't
think it's funny that you mentioned this.
(03:56):
That's part of the list today because
low back pain consistently makes the
top five most common complaints in, U.
S.
healthcare.
Everybody has low back pain, whether they're young
athletes or octogenarians, it affects everybody.
And we always to your point, you just said.
(04:18):
Everybody has a disc at L5 S1.
There's a time and a place to get really
excited about imaging, and there's a time
and a place to get excited about imaging.
When somebody comes in and they
says, Oh my God, look at my disc.
And you say if you image everybody, especially over
the age of 35, we're going to see degeneration.
The low back pain protocol, that program that is
(04:40):
on the custom care, is phenomenal because it's
this all encompassing Menagerie of the wear and
tear in the annulus that everybody has, especially
active people that are prone to that compression
and rotation and sheer forces in the disc.
I think that's always a good place to start, especially
(05:01):
when we don't have imaging and we don't know, and it
can take the pain down briefly because we all have these
pathology, right?
And the low back pain protocol is mostly facets.
Low back pain is always facets.
Discs don't cause low back pain.
(05:22):
Maybe a little bit of low back pain, but
mostly disc cause leg pain, nerve pain.
So the low back pain protocol is
40 minutes of facets and right.
10 minutes of torn and broken in the annulus, what fooled me
(05:44):
was she didn't have a mechanism of injury that I recognized.
I'm used to it.
By the time you finish the history, you
should know what you're going to find.
What you should do and what you're
going to find in the physical exam.
There was no mechanism by which I would have
(06:05):
thought somebody should tear an SI joint.
Unless you have mold and other, she's not an allergist
analyst, so she's not hypermobile, but if a naturopath who
has one quarter, of manual therapy, adjusts you on a drop
(06:27):
table and puts her hand on your A I I S and your femur, so
on your iliac crest and your femoral head and drops on it.
So we'll talk for lay people.
Number one, a drop table is exclusively, I'm not sure
(06:49):
even if it's exclusive, I've been to many different,
Health practitioners that use drop table adjustments
that are not chiropractors, but they're tables
that drop in certain areas to provide adjustments.
Gives you a controlled impulse.
That's fairly shallow, never raises up
(07:10):
more than about an inch, inch and a half.
And then there's other movement she did on the left.
It occurred to me that it could have created sheer forces
at a disc, but to tear the upper part of the SI joint.
So when I treated her SI joints and then taped
her SI joints, she left with her pain, came in
(07:32):
with her pain at a seven, left with her pain
at a one, treating the SI joints and no moving
bones on her legs.
That was quite bilateral too.
Very bilateral.
And it's
okay.
I want to put you on the spot, but what are your
thoughts on compression shorts and something like
(07:53):
that, instead of taping, or to merge from taping
to, because the compression shorts that we used to
have in Canada were very good for stabilizing SI.
So the chiropractic clinic that I worked
at, we had sold them with good results, but.
Chiropractors use sacroiliac belts, so the
(08:15):
compression shorts may have the advantage of
taking both iliums and shoving them inward.
Mm
Sacroiliac belts, which are supposed to stabilize the
SI joint, have the disadvantage of being able to wing
the SI joint forward or back, and You can do either one.
(08:38):
So I've never used compression shorts.
I'm assuming the compression is lateral,
and that would just shove the SI joint
inward, and it should work.
I've never used them.
Just thinking.
The exciting part for me is when we go from identifying
(09:01):
the pathology and treating the pathology, and then the
fun for me comes doing the corrective exercise to get
everything that has been either offline back online
again, and my favorite analogy is getting the trifecta.
So we're talking about the low back.
So we're talking about the erector spinae, the
glutes, and then the anterior Musculature, the
deep transverse abdominus to get all three of
(09:24):
those groups playing together in the sandbox again,
and having torn both of my SI joints over the
years, one of them twice, all of the exercises I
was given were for Glu medias, Glu minimus, the
things that hold the SI joint together until the SI
(09:47):
ligaments are stable, you don't get to do anything.
So the other thing that diagnosis gave us was
expectation so people see us on the podcast and we tell
these success stories and they think, oh, it's a 1 or
(10:09):
2 visit fix and the expectation with an SI joint is.
It's, it's three months before you expect any improvement.
Now, if we're lucky, and if she keeps it taped,
and if nothing unfortunate happens, maybe it's
(10:30):
better in six weeks, like a sprain would be.
But we're talking about the strongest
ligaments and connective tissue in the body.
The strongest joint in the body.
It's a keystone.
Hold your upper body to your lower body.
And six months on me, it was 12
(10:50):
months because I was traveling.
Tape wasn't on all the time.
I was lifting stuff.
But when I got pain down my leg, I knew what it was.
And it was like, oh here we go.
And it's, the diagnosis is the gift.
And the expectation.
No, this is not, you're not going
(11:11):
to be better by next Tuesday.
And you need to find a physical therapist that'll
keep it taped when you go back to Arizona.
And, she had a bunch of other symptoms
that she associated with mold and etc, etc.
And did the vestibular screen because I do it on everybody.
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And her BIVSS score was 41.
No, 26.
Oops.
what, having to explain it to her and then seeing
the blank look in her face, I came home, had
dinner, and after dinner, wrote up, instructions?
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Information about vestibular injuries for patients.
So there is now a three page handout that will,
as soon as I get it to Kevin will be on the
practitioner resource page because it talks
about what causes them, what the symptoms are.
and what the treatments are.
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And it included something I don't
even talk about in the Corps.
And that is legal.
If you are stopped by a police officer for whatever
reason and as a matter of course because he's doing it
to everybody because it's January 30th or whatever, he
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wants you to do a drunk driving, field sobriety test.
You can do the breathalyzer and blow zero,
but they still want a field sobriety test.
I couldn't pass one.
I have Meniere's.
So we have a friend that's a state patrol
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officer and I took off my glasses and I
said, go ahead, do a field sobriety test.
And he did the thing with his finger
and he said, your eyes bounce.
I said, yes, I have my neighbors.
And he said, no, I want you to walk heel to toe.
I said, I can't.
I have an airs.
And so the last instruction on that patient information
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is get a note from your doctor and put it in your wallet.
We should have bracelets.
But a note from an ENT, a note from me, a note
from you, a note from somebody that says this
patient has a vestibular injury and will have these
symptoms and cannot pass a field sobriety test.
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Right.
Rely on the breathalyzer and hope for the best.
It was interesting.
Yes, that will be a great resource for us to have because
just like the vagus nerve, vestibular injuries are one
of those things that we learned about and you learn about
them, and then you think, okay, whatever, and they appear
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on patient history forms, but they are so prevalent when you
start looking for them, and we have the, VIVSS to look at to
help us with just giving us, it helps connect the dots, and
it gives patients this, what is the word I'm looking for?
Objective.
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Give us a number.
No.
Yeah, I think, especially, I'm searching more for when they
don't know they have a vestibular injury and then they're,
it's like a, I don't want to say relief, but it's that,
okay, somebody identified and connected the dots for me.
There's a reason for all these symptoms, because they
have been diagnosed with all sorts of other conditions.
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Something else happened, speaking of
vestibular injuries, thank you very much.
You're welcome.
We give the BIVSS to every new patient.
So this patient came in, he's older, used to love to
ride his bicycle, had an accident at some point, and
he filled out the BIVSS and his score was like, okay.
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Eight.
Okay, that's negative.
And then.
He came back in for a second visit and picked up the
resonance effect in the waiting room and was reading it
and there was something he had a positive
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vestibular screen with the bouncing of the
eyes and the lateralization, but his B.
I.
V.
S.
S.
was eight.
That's that's weird.
I said, now that you've been trying,
how long since you've read a book?
Oh, I've been busy.
How long since you've read a book?
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Don't know, seven or eight years?
Now that you've been trying to read a book,
do me a favor and fill out this form again.
And the score was 41.
And it, he simply
avoided all of the things that would give him symptoms.
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So his scores were either seldom or never.
Because he didn't do the family shopping and
he never went to Costco and he read a book.
You start to protect yourself from those
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things that give you symptoms, like you said.
Costco, or Christmas shopping, right?
We just came off of the holidays, and I don't know
about you, but the people that are coming in have this
extra layer of Stress and thickness to their symptoms
and the people with vestibular injuries that are forced
to go out and shop and everything is more crowded and
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that is intolerable and it makes everything feel worse.
I know for myself, even just clinically saying
because your vestibular injury, it's normal
to have this and this and this oh, it is.
Yeah, I actually got it.
Can you write me a note that I can't
do any more Christmas shopping?
I'm like, sure, Santa will be a little late
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this year or you'll have to do everything
through Amazon and that will be okay.
You don't need to, or, just the recognition,
I guess is the word I'm looking for.
And I think that's validation, validation,
recognition, something that people who, like you
said, are, who had been giving all these little
micro diagnoses of you have this, you have this,
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you have this, but have never put it all together.
Yeah.
And for patients with shoulder problems, if they never have.
a reason to do this, they don't
know that they can't do that.
Yeah.
It's like everything is this high or they
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have a son or a husband or a taller partner.
Or another arm.
So we see this a lot with frozen
shoulder for on the driver's side, right?
Where you would normally reach back with your
left hand, grab your seatbelt and pull it across.
Or when the Abduction and external rotation becomes painful.
You'll just use your other arm, grab
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the seatbelt and pull it across.
Exactly.
So we're sneaky means as humans adaptive.
We are
adaptive creatures.
Yes, and I'm glad we are adaptive, but the adaptations
that people have can that is your job is for the
practitioners that are listening or to look for the
adaptations or we call them compensations because.
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Especially people who are active or type A or who are stoic.
There's so many different people that fall into the
category of when they're injured, they don't slow down.
They find a different way to get something done.
Exactly.
Running through the pain.
I'd say that's a good way to put it.
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Running through the pain.
It's, hmm, I wonder who we know that might do that.
I don't know.
We have a couple questions before we go forward.
Someone was on an SI joint here that I wanted to talk about.
Alf said, I've been seeing a woman with
hypermobile SI joints persisting years
later after being pregnant and delivery.
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Yes.
Oh dear.
Yes, there, there's that.
There's, there is that.
So a lot of times when women are
pregnant, everything becomes lax, right?
So we hear our pelvises are always the culprit of
what we would imagine to be very movable and after
delivery, It would be beautiful if things would just
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go back to symmetry but that's not often the case.
So when we do assessments with the SI joint, even monitoring
like the pubic tubercles, we'll see a big difference.
So there's that shear force.
So what's happening at the front
is also happening on the backside.
So think of an SI joint that has been stuck in that kind
of sheared position for so long, and then has gone back.
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It's something that we absolutely see after delivery.
And when you see the pubic bone tilted
and the SI joints tilted, I look at the
psoas, especially if she had a C section.
Bleeding causes scar tissue.
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There's the ureter.
It's retroperitoneal, but some C sections are less
than tidy if everybody's in a hurry for good reason.
And it's, so the psoas, when
there's an SI joint, the SI joints
are lax, or, patients will say they're, they're
out of place, they're tilted, and we go in and work
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on the psoas, and the psoas is connected to the
iliacus is connected to the pelvis, and the psoas
pulls the iliacus up, and so it's going to tilt the
pelvis, and you can look at the, Pubic tubercles.
And persisting years later after pregnancy
and delivery, the, the persisting years later
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is they don't ever get treated and they don't
always, they're not always just pregnant once.
So you have three children in five
years, which is not out of the ordinary.
Yes.
And you're, it's like your SI joints about the time
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they heal or start to heal, you're pregnant again.
And then everything goes squishy.
So you can bear the child, then deliver the child.
And then they start to heal.
And then it depends on what you do.
With your legs, your hips, do you love
rollerblading as a way of relieving stress
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or running as a way of relieving stress?
So your SI joints are always being asked to do this.
Right.
And then you sit on the floor cross legged or sit on the
floor playing with the kids and the SI joints do that.
When are you going to heal
right?
I'm going to add one more thing of just something that I had
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seen with a new patient a couple weeks ago similar story.
So we have one baby and that's great.
And then we get pregnant and we have another baby.
So what are we doing with our, as we're pregnant,
we've got a toddler propped up on our hips
so that we can still, so that deviation that
happens is so common with women that have had.
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One, two, multiple babies, because going from infancy,
the minute they're able to hold their head up, we
shimmy that baby over onto the side of our hip, and
that's not a great position for a healing pelvis.
That little iliac crest is a nice shell foe.
Perfect.
I'm not sure it was designed for babies though.
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It probably was.
If you think about it,
and it'd be great in a perfect world if we
would have the mindset to alternate those hips
and use our non-dominant hand once in a while.
But that just doesn't happen.
Can't stir soup with my left hand.
It's really not Pretty
. Going with the whole female anatomy leaf had asked
about an advancement in treating Endometriosis.
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I found
pictures from Taiwan when we treated the girl
that had abdominal adhesions from endometriosis.
They had an ultrasound machine that also had a Doppler.
They had ultrasound that picked up the scar tissue between
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the layers of the fascia, between the ovary and the tube.
And then they turned the Doppler
on and saw the inflammation.
Bright red all over the abdomen.
So I treated the scar tissue, then treated 40 for
inflammation and with endometriosis, the frequency
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for the endometrium is 155 and When you, if you ever
get to see a surgery for endometriosis scar tissue,
it's like somebody sprinkled paprika in the abdomen.
There's little red spots everywhere.
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And in the textbooks, they call them chocolate
cysts, and they look like they're big.
brown blood clots.
They're not.
They're paprika.
It's everywhere.
And so inflammation and 284 dissolve
the blood clot in the endometrium.
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But if you're going to dissolve the
blood clot, what's that going to do?
It's going to start a bleeding.
So you treat the inflammation, you treat the blood clot.
But then you run, stop the bleeding and you treat
the scar tissue because the endometrium bleeds
every month when you have a period, because your
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endometrial lining just isn't just inside your uterus.
It's paprika everywhere.
And so they bleed.
And that causes abdominal adhesions, including
scarring in the vagus, the small bowel, the omentum.
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We have a wonderful case report on
why you need to treat the omentum.
That's coming up at the symposium.
I'm excited.
And so that's the biggest advancement leaf is finding
out that you need to take apart the scar tissue.
Remember to include the vagus, scarring in the small bowel,
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scarring in the ovary, the tube, the uterus, the bladder.
The thing with endometriosis is that because
the scar tissue is everywhere, I have seen
where the sigmoid colon was adhered to the left
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ovary and rolled Over and scarred to
the anterior surface of the bladder.
Wow.
So during the last five day core, we had two
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patients where you took the sigmoid and unglued
it from the ovary and glued it from the tube.
But then we actually had to unglue everything from the top
of the bladder to get the sigmoid back where it belonged.
And then we checked.
The right side and found out that the same thing had
happened to the secum and the ascending colon, so everything
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gets folded into this ball of scar tissue in the middle,
and then it's inflammatory because it bleeds every month.
So inflammation.
2 84 chronic inflammation, but then finish
with 18 and 62, stopping the bleeding and
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the arteries and the endometrium 1 55.
So it is an advancement and it means I have yet one more
thing on my to-do list, which is to do a webinar or a
video on treating abdominal adhesions and what to look for.
And the trick with that is finding.
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A patient and stopping myself from treating them waiting
until we get a video camera and then doing the lecture and
the slides and the video on because the manual technique is
pretty flat fingered and sensitive because it's so tender.
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And you don't.
Need like everything else that I try to correct
when we're teaching is the pressure that you
would normally need to pull apart adhesions
or to do any type of visceral manipulation.
You have to remove yourself and let the frequencies
do all the heavy lifting and you are just there
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to guide because, visceral work is of the.
Most painful things to visceral work, TMJ
work without FSM, I'm not sure that I would
even attempt it anymore, to be honest.
No, and the same thing working on the subscap at a
shoulder yesterday, and it's like Geneva convention.
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It shocks me because I've seen so
many shoulders in the last two months.
It's shocking.
And I'm not exaggerating.
I'm gobsmacked and I'm dumbfounded.
How many times these patients have never
had their scapula assessed or treated?
Yeah.
Because the presentation is, pain in the, and I'm, those
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of you who are just listening on the podcast, I'm pointing
to my shoulder, the bony protuberance on the lateral side.
The pain is here.
And I'll start getting into their subscap
said, no, the pain isn't in my armpit.
It's here.
I'm like, I understand that, but your scapula doesn't move.
And it is stuck in internal rotation and adduction.
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And the thing it won't do is external rotation
and abduction, which is the reason this hurts.
And right, which means we have to fix.
Trust me.
And then you put your fingers in their armpit
and they understand that hurts way more than
anything that they thought hurt in their shoulder.
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And then they believe you.
And then they believe you.
And then their shoulder blade starts moving
and the stress on the, supraspinatus and the
lateral and anterior delts just goes away.
Because the kinrestant doesn't have to
work so hard to lift the arm up anymore.
That's hard.
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Try so hard.
A couple more questions before we go any further.
Leave.
Thank you.
Yes, Louise.
Can one have vestibular issues
without any recollection of injury?
Are prism glasses always indicated?
Where can we access the assessment and
how to do a proper vestibular exam?
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Oh dear.
It's, the first one, can anybody have a
vestibular injury without memory of injury?
And I say, heck yes.
Oh yeah,
A lot.
I think more often than not, they don't think
of anything that caused the vestibular injury.
Yeah, I had an auto accident.
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And in this particular patient's case, she was
a passenger in a car and they got hit on the
driver's side, front quarter and spun the car.
And then the car ran into a post.
So there's rotary motion and then a sudden stop.
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The vestibular system has a little
bit of room, but it doesn't take much.
In the way of a pressure wave to injure the
endolymphatic system, if the airbag goes off, if
you have your head turned, I've had patients who had
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vestibular injuries just because they were looking.
And the rearview mirror saw it
coming, and that meant that they hit
the mastoid right behind the ear when they were rear ended.
And the head whips,
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they don't connect anything with it.
They know their neck hurts for five
years afterwards, and nobody knows why.
They know they have anxiety and digestive
problems, and they've been diagnosed with H.
pylori, mind you, without a positive hydrogen
bacteria test, but that's another conversation.
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SIBO, because I'm nauseous all the
time, and I have chronic fatigue.
I'm better in the summer, but then the
chronic fatigue really hits in the winter.
Does it rain where you live in the winter?
Yeah, okay.
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And that set of symptoms leads you down the vestibular path.
And I've missed so many vestibular injuries that
it is part of every new patient physical exam I do.
Take a tuning fork, put it in the middle of the head.
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If it lateralizes, they have a vestibular injury.
They may or may not be hyperacoustic, and the saccades,
the bouncing of the eyes, may be hard to pick out.
If the injury happened when they were young, like before the
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age of ten, the brain learns to suppress the eye bouncing.
Doesn't mean they don't have a vestibular
injury, but you have to provoke it or fatigue it.
And the way you know that they're
suppressing it is they blink.
They don't bounce, but they'll
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blink and jump back to the center.
Hmm,
interesting.
And is there anything except prism glasses?
I actually had one FCOVD fellow of the College of Optometry
and Visual Development in a core, sat in the third row.
And she said, I never prescribed prism glasses.
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I always do, what do they call it?
Vision, vision therapy.
And the purpose of vision therapy is to get
your eyes to work anyway by forcing them to.
I have some opinions about that.
Number one, vestibular therapy or
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vision therapy makes me nauseous.
And there's no circumstance under which I can
be nauseated or motion sick three days a week.
Number two, vision therapy is much
more expensive than prison glasses.
Prison glasses are more expensive than regular glasses.
You can buy cheap frames and get prism lenses put
in them, but vision therapy is much more expensive,
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takes longer, and sometimes it doesn't work.
My patients, when I send them to the optometrist
here, have to be in prism glasses for three to
six months before they do vision therapy, because
the brain Has to know what normal is, right?
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How do you, how do you know what you're training for, right?
If you have never in your life run or you've never
seen anybody run, you've only seen people walk.
You have only walked.
The concept of training for a
marathon is completely foreign.
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So I wear prison glasses.
And I refuse to do vision therapy because I'm a brat.
Think you're a brat with good reason.
Like you said in, I think a lot of people Just can't
afford that sickness, that accompanies the vision therapy.
And I am not saying to never do it.
I'm sure there's, I do know a lot of athletes
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that do it, but it is in tandem with other things.
It is in the off season.
It is an adjunct to a lot of things.
Not, not the only thing.
Yeah, no Prism glasses aren't always indicated,
but I think, especially you've got much more
mileage with this because you have them yourself.
It makes sense for, again, that
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safety that you're talking about.
You can't train something that's foreign or that's something
that is perceived to be damaging or to be symptom inducing.
And if your brain, that's the other thing, the BIVSS,
which is the questionnaire we use for vestibular injuries.
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Is the brain injury visual system symptom questionnaire.
So I have one patient that I sent to the FCOVD that I
use, the optometrist I use for prism glasses, and she
came back and she said he put me in vision therapy.
She had had a brain scan at the Amen clinic, and the lower
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portion of her temporal lobe on the injured side is missing.
It just.
Not there.
So I called the optometrist.
And he explained why he preferred
vision therapy for this patient.
I said, that's completely reasonable, but
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did she tell you about the brain scan?
The part of her brain that you're
trying to retrain does not exist.
It is not functional.
It is not absorbing or circulating
or having a mitochondrial function.
It's just gone.
Tom.
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Oh,
can we try prism glasses and see how they work?
That always concerns me, I have to block
it out, is the fact that FSM practitioners.
No more about vestibular injuries than 97.
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I used to say 95.
It's probably 97 percent of the MDs, including
neurologists and neuro optometrists in this country.
It's crazy.
And it's just because I got lucky and
happened to be around these 3 guys.
And we all saw the same group of patients
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that were diagnosed with chronic fatigue.
And that's where I found out that 100 percent
of these patients had vestibular injuries.
Okay.
And they were seeing these three specialists.
And that's where I learned about it.
And then I started telling and now it's, I wish
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I could move it further forward in the core.
But it's, you have to have it, I think, where it is.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So do we
have other questions?
Yeah.
So Leif, I just want to go back to Leif really quickly.
He had asked, he said, in the buddy,
I find no frequency for omentum.
So the omentum is adipose.
So we use 97 for omentum.
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And it's also very well vascularized as you'll find out.
And it has a lot of lymphatic tissue.
So I have a patient or friend who had ovarian cancer.
Stage two had not spread to the peritoneum, yay, but they
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took out her omentum because it has so much lymphatic
tissue that if you were a cancer cell that was going
to be picked up by the lymphatic system and from an
ovary to a lymphatic tissue, it would get picked up.
By the so they took the momentum out
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fast.
I, we talked a lot about the momentum in the sports advanced
course, and I told the story where there was a person that
didn't understand the word momentum, but I had made it up.
It was a Canadian term and Dr.
Heather was there.
Anesthesiologist was like, you
need to learn about the momentum.
It is.
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Full of it stores information.
It stores toxicity.
It's like you said very vascularized lymphatic.
So a lot of traffic goes through the momentum.
So if you hadn't thought about using 97 when you're
doing abdominal work, you're going to want to do it.
Just thinking about what the momentum can store and hold and
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how much, like I said, traffic goes through the momentum.
And one of its functions, believe it or not, is
to provide squishy things for the small intestine.
So it sits down in between the loops of the small intestine.
And that's where sclerosis in the adipose is the
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finishing touch to treating abdominal adhesions.
You want the omentum to be slidey glidey.
And that's what 3N97 does.
It's
pretty fun.
Glidey glidey.
We do have another question.
I might have to Google this one.
Have you ever treated corticobasal disease?
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Corticobasal that I know about is I'm
going to Google search this really quick.
Corticobasal syndrome, I'm guessing, also known as
corticobasal degeneration, a rare brain disease that
causes a gradual loss of nerve cells in the brain.
Symptoms include movement problems, stiffness,
slowed movement, difficulty controlling one
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side of the body, language problems, thinking
behavior changes, memory problems, CBS is caused
by a buildup of tau proteins in the brain.
form harmful clumps in brain cells could
be due to a gene mutation of chromosome 17.
CBS symptoms start on one side, spread to the other.
It is an atypical parkinsonism, which means
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it shares some features with Parkinson's
disease, but it has distinct characteristic.
It is different because it is not responsive to levodopa.
Right, and whereas Parkinson's presents
as stiffness, I've only seen two or three
CBS patients, It's movement and balance.
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Parkinson's is stiffness, like the face doesn't move.
They have this mask.
They have a resting tremor.
Corticobasal doesn't have a tremor as far as I know.
But they have trouble with balance, and they
will have a similar complaint as Parkinson's.
I keep falling.
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And then the ones I've seen were early towards mid stage.
And problems with movement and balance, and I've
never seen one that was advanced enough to include.
The verbal part, and I don't know what part
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of the brain, I think of it as a brainstem
cerebellar headed towards the midbrain.
So is it motor function where the language problem comes,
or is it in the Broca's area where you turn thoughts.
Yes, the motor.
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It's what?
Motor.
The speech.
Yeah.
So it's like you.
You can't make the words, the movement, so it's, I
just think of it as, yeah, it's something we can't fix.
You can try that, that thing that I start the advanced
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with, the thought experiment about Alzheimer's.
You could try that and change the
tissues to the cerebellum, the medulla,
the vagus, because vagus is part of
the motor, part of the mouth, maybe.
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But it's, it's a bad diagnosis.
It's just, it's just bad.
Concussion and vagus, a good support system.
They will be accompanied by a caregiver
and make sure the caregiver gets treated.
It's, it's one of those.
It's just not,
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we don't always get to vote.
And it's not always pretty.
Yes.
Okay.
Dana, anecdotal low back pain relief
by magnesium citrate laxative.
I've also been using FSM, but the addition of magnesium
citrate laxative seemed to have an instant relief effect.
Could this be synergistic with FSM?
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Interesting!
Magnesium citrate is magnesium that is not absorbed.
Magnesium glycinate Magnesium malate are absorbed.
Citrate is not.
So it concentrates in the stool and the body seeks balance.
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So with all this magnesium in the stool that's
going through, the colon's job is to reabsorb water.
When there's all this magnesium on the inside and not that
much magnesium on the outside, it doesn't absorb the water.
It is so it makes the stool softer
so magnesium citrate is a laxative.
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Could the low back pain have had
something to do with constipation?
That's not completely out of the question.
And then you'd start asking about, was there an abdominal
surgery that, what happened before the low back pain?
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Was there an abdominal surgery?
Was there, magnesium oxide is the
other one that's not absorbed.
Thank you, Lynn.
And so the, so the, the link is the
magnesium citrate operates as a laxative.
So what is there about being constipated
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that made the low back pain worse?
Because it's not as if, it's okay.
Your information is different than mine, Lynn.
But that's.
Okay, magnesium citrate is not something
you use to make your muscles feel better.
That's glycinate or malate.
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Glycinate is good for the brain, the heart.
the muscles.
Malate is specific for the muscles.
Oxide is not something I've ever used and citrate
was what was prescribed to me as a laxative.
So if Lynn knows that citrate is, and the chelated
forms, yes, it's what they're chelated with.
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So they're, that's, this is true.
Anyway, so the, the link between the two is low back pain.
and constipation, especially if it's citrate.
If the patient says, my low back pain got better when I
took magnesium malate, then you go looking for muscles.
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If the patient says, my low back pain got
better when I took magnesium citrate or oxide.
I always think of oxide makes me think of that
stuff that you put on your nose zinc oxide.
Yeah.
And it's I don't want to put that in my colon.
So it's, it's, it's knowing that citrate is laxative.
(48:30):
That, that takes you down what questions you ask.
They could be synergistic, but how
constipated has the patient been?
Are there adhesions?
That's what I just jumped to instantly, is if there's
relief in the bowel, there's less pressure, there's
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less tension, if there's adhesions, everything,
you use that word, like the, the squishy glidey
flowy, like how our organs are supposed to move.
If there's stool compacted in the large intestine,
like that is going to cause low back pain.
Yeah.
So I wonder that'd be interesting.
And
just the weight of it.
(49:12):
If you guess how much there could be sitting down
there that your low back muscles have to hold up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Okay.
There's that.
There's a couple other comments that popped in.
I just want to make sure.
Carrie had written, We'll try to get to as much as we can.
(49:33):
Five minutes!
I have a complicated client.
One of her mysteries is when she exercises,
taking a walk or anything, she becomes very
fatigued after 15 minutes, feels so miserable she
has to go home, lie down, wait for it to pass.
She calls it malaise.
Where are we?
It's in the
Q& A.
Yeah,
Halfway.
I'll delete some of these ones that we talked about.
(49:55):
So that's done.
Yeah, Parkinson's is a substantial eyebrow.
Yeah,
3C sections 7 years ago,
adhesions from the surgery, exacerbating
low back pain by constipation.
Yay, Dana.
Woohoo.
Okay, so it's Carrie's question.
Okay.
Complicated.
(50:15):
One of her mysteries when she exercises, very fatigued.
Okay.
If that was my patient, sure.
The next step would be a cardiologist,
right?
Does that make sense?
Yes.
Goes for a walk
for 15 minutes and becomes very fatigued.
(50:39):
Once she has a negative or normal
EKG, then we can have a conversation.
But until then, it's
not, not safe.
Magnesium chloride.
Okay.
Careful with DMSO leaf.
DMSO is dimethyl sulf something or other.
(51:05):
It is a carrier that'll take anything that it is mixed with.
or touches through the skin into the body.
It's a great way to poison.
I watch mysteries.
So it's a great way to poison somebody by putting
a poison on the handle of their cane with DMSO.
(51:28):
They put their hand on the cane, the poison is absorbed
and they're dead before they hit the front door.
So DMSO, when you use it, so they found out by
accident because it's a solvent, they found out
by accident that it made low back pain better.
That was interesting.
(51:50):
And over the last 40 years, 50 years, 60 years, when
you use DMSO, you use a clean sterile tongue depressor
to put the DMSO on your skin and you add whatever
(52:10):
you're going to add to the DMSO and mix it on the skin
and then spread it around with the tongue depressor
because your other hand has been on the doorknob.
Was washed with soap, might have hand lotion in it, on it.
Think about what complete and instant
(52:32):
absorption of anything it carries into the skin.
Makes you think.
Yes.
Couple more comments about magnesium.
We thought this would have been such a hot topic tonight.
Yeah.
Tad had written a couple things Here,
Okay, I hadn't heard that, but if that
(52:53):
says so, I'm willing to believe it.
Louise had written something about an acupuncture
L5 level is the SHU point for large intestine.
Ah, okay then.
Yes, alkaline uses up HCl.
Yeah, I don't like magnesium oxide and
(53:19):
magnesium citrate was more bioavailable.
Okay, you got to prove that one to me, Elf.
I think you put an article, he put, he cited
an article.
I see it and it doesn't make any sense.
It's not absorbed.
It's bioavailable means it's available to the
system and that means it's absorbed and it's
(53:43):
okay, then how is it such a good laxative?
And magnesium glycinate is not, nor is magnesium malate.
Who knew magnesium would be such a hot topic?
I, I don't know.
I don't either.
I had so much fun today.
Yeah, it always goes by way too fast.
And, no I
(54:05):
got to go to the trophy shop and order
the awards for the advanced and symposium.
Excellent segue.
We have the Ruth Johnston Award
going to two people this year.
Wow.
So that's the third time that's happened.
Wow.
And we have a Leap Award, which you might recognize.
(54:28):
Yes.
This award has only been given out twice before.
Wow.
You got one.
Jodi Adams got one.
Yes.
Now we have one other surprise guest.
That is, I love the awards.
I love watching it.
People take so much pride in getting them, It's such
(54:49):
a wonderful community to be a part of, and to cheer
each other on, and just to see the leaps and bounds,
so like the Leap Award is so aptly named, as is the
Ruth Johnson Award, that might be one of my favorite
awards that I've ever got, because of just the person
that I feel I know because of the stories you've told,
yeah,
and the other people that get it.
(55:10):
It's a sort of a who's who, Jeff Bland and Christy
Hughes and George Douglas and, you, the people that
have gotten it are the ones that make FSM progress.
And and The Leap are people that just leap.
(55:35):
Yeah.
It's like that scene in,
Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Yeah.
It gets to the edge of the cliff.
Yes.
It's there's nothing here.
It says I'm supposed to set.
Okay.
And he goes like that and takes the step.
(55:56):
Yeah, exactly.
But you have that belief somewhere deep
down that not only is it going to all be
all right, but like life is about to change.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good way to end the day.
Wonderful way to end.
So excited about the advance and seeing everybody in
March, the big old family reunion that we get to have.
(56:18):
So if you haven't signed up for the advance, do it.
It's going to be fun, always fun
and keep the questions coming.
Happy new year to everybody that tunes
in and listens to us and comes live.
It's so much fun every Wednesday to be part of this.
So grateful.
Yeah.
And with that, we will see you all next Wednesday.
(56:38):
See you
next Wednesday.
Bye everybody.
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