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February 5, 2025 56 mins

Carolyn McMakin, MA, DC - frequencyspecific.com
Kim Pittis, LCSP, (PHYS), MT - fsmsports365.com

 

00:14 Patient Case: Rare Condition from Hawaii

01:15 Explaining Medical Terminology

03:35 Detailed Patient History and Treatment

06:59 Videotaping the Treatment Process

10:59 Vestibular Injury and Demonstration

13:45 Visceral Scarring and Treatment Techniques

22:01 Crohn's Disease and Autoimmune Discussion

25:21 Parasites and Crohn's Disease Connection

27:36 Atrial Fibrillation and Vagus Nerve Treatment

30:22 The Vagus Nerve and Its Impact

31:20 Patient Case Study: Neck and Vagus Nerve

32:35 Custom Care and Scar Tissue

34:00 Acetylcholine and Supplements

36:16 Visceral Treatment Techniques

45:24 Parasites and Treatment Options

50:17 Atrial Fibrillation and Scar Tissue

53:10 Insulin Pumps and FSM

 

Welcome to our deep dive into a unique and complex case study, which was discussed in a recent podcast episode featuring a detailed examination of sclerosing mesenteritis and the role of the vagus nerve in treatment. This post will provide key insights that medical practitioners can apply to their own practice, focusing on understanding the intricate relationships between conditions and how Frequency Specific Microcurrent (FSM) might be leveraged in treatment protocols.

Understanding Sclerosing Mesenteritis

A patient case was presented involving a condition known as sclerosing mesenteritis. This rare inflammatory disease affects the mesentery, the connective tissue that supports the intestines. In this case, the patient, with a history of Crohn's disease, also developed complications such as atrial fibrillation and dysphonia after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine and subsequently contracting COVID-19 multiple times.

Medical Interpretation for Sclerosing Mesenteritis

When dealing with the mesentery, it is crucial to understand that it is part of the peritoneal sac encompassing the abdomen's organs. The condition described as "sclerosing" refers to the scarring within this connective tissue. For effective management of this scar tissue, practitioners can focus on identifying affected areas using gentle palpation techniques and specific vocabulary translation for laypeople.

The Vagus Nerve and Its Role in Treatment

Dr. Carol, in the podcast, highlighted treating a spectrum of symptoms by focusing on the vagus nerve. This nerve influences many systems, including the heart's electrical conductivity, digestive health, and even the body's response to inflammation. In patients with autoimmune conditions, like Crohn's disease, enhancing vagal tone may reduce unnecessary immune responses and inflammation.

Practical FSM Applications

Medical practitioners should note the efficacy of FSM in managing scar tissue and enhancing autonomic regulation through the vagus. In this case study, strategies included:

- Running concussion and vagal tone frequencies to relax tense connective tissues and potentially diminish dysphonia.

- Addressing the multifaceted aspects of scar formation by working with frequencies that target sclerosis and inflammation in different tissue types.

- Suggesting Huperzine-A supplementation to support neurotransmitter activity affected by vagus dysfunction.

Techniques in Palpation and Videography

A significant practical learning point from the episode is

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How's your week been so far?
Amazing.
I have a patient who came in from Hawaii.

(00:24):
Mm-hmm . He has a veryrare condition called.
Sclerosing mesenteritis.
So he's had.
So four years of Latin pays off.
It's the peasantry that gets sclerosed.
Yes, had to.
He had Crohn's sincehe's 15, and he's now 71.

(00:50):
And this sclerosing thing started inabout 2015, and then it got worse.
And he developed atrial fib andhe developed dysphonia all in
2020 21 after he got vaccinatedand then got COVID four times.

(01:15):
I'm going to stop you beforeyou start because we do have lay
people that listen to the podcast.
So those of us with our medicalterminology background have been
able to translate what you just said.
Okay.
Okay.
I'll have you just kind of backup just a little bit for the, the
lay people, if you wouldn't mind.
Lay people is, yes, good point.
Thank you.

(01:35):
The mesentery, I thoughtit was just the peritoneum.
It's not?
Apparently not, according to Netter.
Peritoneum is like this big sackthat encloses all of your guts, small
intestine, large intestine, stomach.

(01:58):
Pancreas liver is all inside ofthis sac that's made of fascia.
The mesentery is part of thatperitoneum, but it has a few little
attachments that are in the back
end
to the intestines thathave separate name tags.

(02:19):
Okay, I thought they were the same thing,but there's 2 different names for him.
And then and then sclerosingis another word for scarring.
So they, I guess they get morepoints if they use bigger words.
You can't just say scarringthe mesentery, right?
That's too boring.
Right.

(02:40):
You have to call it sclerosingand then mesenteryitis
means that the mesenteryscarred because it was inflamed.
Right.
Okay.
Anytime you hear the suffix itisyou know it's inflammation of
late people.
There's your pro tip for today.

(03:01):
There you go.
Just so you can help translate forthose of you that haven't taken
four years of Latin in high school.
The only reason I took four years ofLatin in high school was so that I
would be able to understand medicalterminology when I got to college.
Yes.
Anatomy stuff.
Latin and Greek will getyou through those courses.

(03:23):
I think Greek wouldn't break mybrain because the funky alphabet,
at least Roman is in Roman letters.
They're just arranged kind of funny.
Anyway, so the first day youhave this belly that is just rock

(03:44):
hard, enlarged, but rock hard,and it's okay, so what's there?
So you look at Netter.
And it's there's skin, butthe skin's not the problem.
There's the mesentery, the peritoneum,that's a problem, because it's
scarred, so you poke his bellyand it doesn't go anywhere.

(04:09):
Then you've got the omentum underthat, and that is made of fat.
and lymphatics and a lot of blood vessels.
And he's had two, three surgeries.
Two surgeries took his small intestineand took eight centimeters out of it.

(04:31):
And then the second timethey took six centimeters.
And the third timethey, it was obstructed.
They thought they were going tohave to take stuff out of it,
but they just had to unkink it.
And so he's had his bellyopened up three times.
And while they were in there thefirst time, they took out the cecum.

(04:57):
So there's the ascending colon, andthe cecum is where the small intestine
attaches to the large intestine.
And there's kind of a littleball down there, round place,
that they call the cecum.
So they took the cecumout, and they had these.
scars that you could feelthat were really tender.

(05:20):
And the fun part about the first daywas it was kind of simple, which sounds
weird, but he has atrial fibrillation.
And for those of us that have takenFSM, anybody with atrial fibrillation,

(05:43):
Andy has dysphonia, which meansit's really hard for him to talk.
His vocal cords are really tight, and hisvoice is really like this, and so that
means the vagus nerve is not working.
So we ran concussion and vagusfrom his neck to his belly.
We ran just vagal tone multipletimes, and every time it got to

(06:07):
the vagus, he started snoring.
And then we had another three machines.
From his back to his abdomen,and we did, you think about the
tissues, sclerosis in the adipose,

(06:27):
and then inflammation in theadipose, because the inflammation
is in the inflammation in themesentery, and the scarring in the
mesentery didn't come from space.
It came from the omentum, and thatcame from Crohn's disease, right?

(06:47):
And so it's all inflammation, butit starts in the small bowel, and
then it goes to the omentum, andthen it goes to the peritoneum, just
because it's so close, and why not?
Worked on his scar tissue, madea bunch of progress, and we tried
to get it on film on Monday.
And the camera didn't have anysound and it wouldn't work right.

(07:10):
And Kevin got really annoyed.
So Tuesday morning, 8 30, I calledDavid Eakes, who does the videography
for our core and advanced in Phoenixand said, Hey, are you busy today?

(07:32):
No, you want to come down fromSeattle to Vancouver and videotape.
This thing for me.
The patient's coming at one o'clock.
He said, I'll pack up and I'll be there.
So we caught David says it'sonly an hour and a half.
I think it was closer to two plus hours.

(07:53):
I finally have on video howto use your hands on somebody
with abdominal adhesions.
Flat fingers, feel for it, press, waituntil it softens a millimeter or two,

(08:13):
and then once it softens, you just pushit a centimeter and a half or two until
it stops, and then you wait again.
We got all of that on video, and hesaid something important the second day,
which is, It really hurts when I walk.
That's what makes my gut the worst.

(08:35):
This mesentery, that'swhat makes it worse.
If, if you listen verycarefully, the patient will
tell you what's wrong with them.
So what's wrong with them?
It means the mesenteryis adhered to his psoas.
and to the spine.
So we did, once I got his belly softenough that I could get into his psoas,

(09:01):
I ran scarring in the ureter, scarringin the kidneys, sclerosis in the adipose.
Mind you, this whole time when I saidI had Three machines on him, there's
one machine whose only job was to runscarring in the vagus from a C makes

(09:21):
perfect sense to you because the vagusis a pain nerve in the, in the abdomen.
From back to front scarring on the vagus.
And it is just, that was actuallythe first thing we ran so that there
would be enough softening week thatwe could get into his intestines.

(09:42):
And then we ran COVID, all the virusfrequencies in the vagus, all the virus
frequencies in the small intestine, allthe virus frequencies in the capillaries.
And the arteries.
So all of this stuffgot worse after COVID.

(10:02):
The mesenteritis started five yearsbefore that, so that wasn't the initiating
factor, but it got the dysphonia andthe atrial fibrillation after COVID.
So this goes back to someplacein the webinar stack.
There's one that says take it apart.

(10:23):
This goes back to taking it apart.
Anyways, we got all that on film, andso now finally I have a tutorial, I
guess, on how to treat the viscera.
And it was, it was just reallyfun getting his kidneys to move,

(10:45):
his psoas to be non tender.
And then getting the mesentery, orthe fascia, to let go of his spine.
And then, yeah.
And then, after that, since David wasthere, we videotaped The vestibular

(11:09):
slides, I updated the vestibular sectionof the core, and I've been meaning to turn
that into a webinar or a practicum becausepeople are pretty branded by Sunday
when I get around to it, and it's themost important thing we do in the core.
And so it's we reallyneed it just by itself.

(11:30):
And so we got that filmed andKevin volunteered to be my demo
for the physical exam, right?
You put the tuning fork inthe middle of his forehead.
And it's like, where do you hear that?
And he said both ears and then Itested air conduction on both sides.

(11:54):
And on the left hand side, hejust went, so it was aversive.
And I said, let's go.
Air conduction.
So you take this tuning fork, andthe little heads on the tuning
fork go, and vibrate like that,and they make this buzzy sound.
Air conduction, so bone conduction iswhen you put the tuning fork on a bone,

(12:16):
and, The bones conduct the vibrationto the ears when you take the tuning
fork, and you put it next to the earsso that the little vibrating parts.
Make sound that you hear by air.
That's air conduction.
And air conduction onhis left was bothersome.

(12:42):
It's let's go back to your forehead.
And he said I expected to hearsomething like You know, hmm, but
mostly it's just buzzes, right?
Where does it buzz?
Only on the left.
And it's a verse on the left.
And then had him follow my finger.

(13:06):
So Kevin has a vestibular injury,pardon me, Kevin, for ratting you out
and disclosing publicly, but it's, hehad a fall where he fell on his bike.
Rekt his left shoulder and his leftear and he's had trouble reading and
so he gets to have prison glassesand it was just like the perfect

(13:28):
demo and we got it all on film.
Great.
So I have to, we have to back way up.
Back up the truck.
Back it up.
That's what, that's what we do.
You go forth on the train and I tryto reel you back in again before you.
I
want to go back to the viscera fora second because I think number

(13:52):
one, great that you got it on videobecause we do talk about the speed
and how much the palpation changes.
And a lot of us in physical medicinehave to really switch gears from our
diagnostic touch to our treatment touch.
And the viscera, there is.

(14:14):
No room for error, because if you go toodeep, too fast, it's exquisitely painful.
Everything tightens up.
And I feel like you only have one shot.
So you have to go slow and you haveto listen and see with your hands.
However, you talked a lot, a lotabout different tissue types.
And there once was a rumor floating aroundtown that adhesions in the adipose had

(14:42):
a different sensation than adhesions inconductive tissue or in muscle belly.
As far as adipose adhesions for thepatient will feel sharp, they'll
feel hot, they'll, they just feeldifferent than a regular trigger point.
Oh, yeah, it's a completelydifferent and adhesions or scarring

(15:06):
in the vagus is that one sharp.
What was interesting is, as,as we got further down and into
different parts of the abdomen.
When I got to the anastomosis in the smallintestine, you, you come up from the side
and you run into this That goes this way,and it's it's clearly the small intestine.

(15:30):
You can feel the anastomosis where thetwo ends of the small intestine and
the ascending colon, the end of thesmall intestine and the middle of the
ascending colon were stitched together.
You could feel that bump.
And so we did scarring inthe small intestine, scarring

(15:51):
in the ascending colon.
The adipose is hard.
It's firmer, crunchier, but it softens.
It was really nice.
Sharp was scarring in the vagus.
And then yesterday, as I got down laterallateral to and just below the umbilicus,

(16:19):
On the left hand side, I got to a spotwhere he went, Oh, that really hurts.
And I was barely touching it.
And that takes us back to sharppain with gentle pressure is what?

(16:39):
Scarring in the nerve,while it was superficial.
I mean, it was like in the first halfa centimeter, first centimeter of
depression and you could follow it down.
And this is one of those weirdthings where you have mileage.

(17:03):
I had a patient one time, butyou never forget the ones that
you have to work for, right?
This guy fell backwards over acarpet roll, and he basically
had CRPS in the cutaneous branchof the iliohypogastric nerve.

(17:29):
And the only reason I know that isthat he had a numb and hypersensitive
spot on his abdomen on the skin.
That makes it a cutaneous nerve, but itwas a cutaneous nerve that came off a deep
nerve called the ileohypogastric nerve.

(17:53):
This was a cutaneous branch that cameoff that nerve that feeds this part.
Of the abdomen on both sides.
Hang on, quick, Louise just came in.
What is CRPS?
CRPS is complex regional pain.
Pain syndrome.
Yeah, he just, he had a torn, tornnerve when it's, when it's numb and

(18:16):
hypersensitive at the same time,then you know that the nerve is torn.
So when he fell backwards, he had anappendix scar, adhesions in the nerve,
where the nerve was like stitched down.
And then he fell backwards over a roll ofcarpet that was three feet in diameter.

(18:36):
So he did this extension thingand basically tore this nerve.
There's no earthly reasonwhy anybody would know.
That there is a cutaneous branchof the aleohypergastric nerve,
who, who knows that, right?
And the only reason I know it is thatit took me 30 minutes to look it up

(19:01):
and find out where the heck it was.
On this patient, when I got to that spoton his abdomen, it's I know what that is.
Now,
if I hadn't had that prior experience,I would have gone to Netter and
fished around until I found it,
right?
So I just that then I switchedto scarring in the nerve and

(19:23):
that Bernie uncomfortable,painful sensation went away.
That was pretty fun.
The sclerosis, thescarring in the lymphatics.
So you think of the momentum,we have one case report.
It deserves an hour, and we didn't havetime, so 30 minutes on the Omentum,

(19:43):
and the Omentum contains an enormousquantity of lymphatic tissue, and a
lot 85 percent of the immune systemis clustered around the Omentum.
The digestive tract, and that includes themomentum and the digestive tract itself.
Yeah.
So then it, all the lymphaticchannels go down through the groin.

(20:08):
When I first did the physical exam on him,I felt the pulses in his feet and there
was a nice little thump, thump, thump.
So he had pedal pulses.
Pedal just means foot, like pedal pulses.
But his femoral pulse was like, if you,the femoral nerve is the size of your

(20:31):
little finger or your index finger.
It's huge.
Femoral artery, I mean.
Sorry.
Femoral artery.
He didn't have a femoral pulse.
I couldn't find it.
Hmm.
Okay.
Now his pulse was slow.
It was 56.
I did scar tissue in the lymphatic,scar tissue in the arteries, scar
tissue in the veins, and at theend of the hour on Monday, you

(20:56):
could feel this slow femoral pulse.
And at the end of the hour and a half onTuesday, you could find a femoral pulse.
I mean, it was just on its own.
It was so much fun, but to be ableto explain to students how you can

(21:17):
have your hand completely relaxed.
And exert enough force that you can takea fairly round abdomen that's scarred
and get down to the psoas and the ureterand the blood supply and the adipose and

(21:39):
the mesentery, which is basically fascia.
We don't have a separatefrequency for mesentery.
So that was the most fun I had yesterday.
And I have to, I have to back you up.
Okay.
No.
When you're first describing thispatient with the visceral scarring,
you had mentioned a couple key phrases.

(22:01):
Now, Crohn's, correct me ifI'm wrong, is autoimmune.
Yes, yeah,
yeah.
So just hearing that in itself, mybrain shifts to have to treat the vagus.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, we tried, treated the vagus the
whole
three times and it wasreally the whole time.

(22:23):
So I have one on vagal toneand one on concussion in vagus.
And.
Every time I ran them, he fellasleep and started doing little
angel puffs, you know, snoring.
And then when he woke up and I gotto talk to him about what was going
on his belly, I went and turnedvagal tone and concussion and vagus

(22:44):
back on and he passed out again.
So I could make him fall asleepanytime I wanted just by running
concussion and vagus and vagal tone.
How much of what you did doyou expect to hold because of
the underlying Crohn's disease?
Maybe we need to back up anddescribe what Crohn's is.

(23:06):
Crohn's is when your immune systemdecides that your small intestine belong
or your esophagus or your part, it canaffect any part of the digestive system.
Most commonly, it's a small intestine,and on him, it was a small intestine.
Your immune system decidesit belongs to somebody else.
So the immune system attacksyour own digestive tissue

(23:30):
lining, and it's inflammatory.
They never had him on immune suppressants.
They managed It was the good old days.
I mean, he's 71, so theyused basically steroids.
So he's been on steroidspretty much since he was 15.
On and off.

(23:50):
So they'd wean him off, and then he'd havea flare up, and they'd put him back on.
And so then the Crohn's wasdeclared to be in remission.
And then this mesentericsclerosis started 15
years, 2015, 2015, 10
years ago.

(24:11):
Yeah, and then 5 years afterthat, he got vaccinated and got
COVID 4 times after the vaccine.
And that's when he got the, that'swhen the vagus went, really went.
So in order to have.
An autoimmune disease, your vagusnerve has to be half asleep because

(24:35):
the vagus has its job to suppress theimmune system, keep it under control.
And it's yeah, no, no, you reallydon't need to jump on the small bowel.
It's it doesn't belong to you.
It, it belongs to thisbody and you need to just.
Go land a corner.
Calm down.
It's just fine.

(24:55):
And so he had vagus nerve problemsto begin with and I said, so
infection stress or trauma whenyou were 14 or 15 and this started.
I said, I don't know.
I mean, some stress, whatteenager doesn't have stress?

(25:16):
And I went, mm, we'll justput a, put a pin in that.
And then later on, somebody convincedhim that taking worm eggs, parasite
eggs was a way to get the, that'sa good face, was a way to get the
immune system to get unconfused.

(25:38):
And so that was a wholenother conversation.
I let that one go becausethat, it's a done deal, right?
And I find it interesting that theytook out the, the, the worst of the
scarring was in the cecum, the appendixwhere the small intestine joins it.

(25:59):
And parasites tend to hang out, live,reproduce, build little forts and.
You know, cabins, in the appendix,the cecum, and then go right on
through to the small intestine.
I, I said, when you were ateenager, where did you live?

(26:22):
And he lived, I think, in Minnesotaor someplace, upper Midwest.
And I said, were youan outdoor sort of kid?
Did you drink out of the creek?
Did you, you know, eat, youknow, stuff that had dirt on it?
And he said, I canremember when I was a kid.
Eating dirt and thensure I drank creek water.

(26:45):
Did you ever get diarrhea?
Sure.
Okay.
Did anybody ever treat you for parasites?
No.
I just had diarrhea fromdrinking creek water.
What's that got to do with parasites?
So we had that conversation.
So he's going to havea list of things to do.
One of which is have somebody putyou on these five anti parasite

(27:08):
medications one after another for a day.
Six weeks, and that'll take, I, I stillsuspect that the parasites are what
started the crumbs to begin with, andthen because they're still hanging
around, that's what led to the ongoinginflammation and and the, the scarring.

(27:29):
Somebody started asked,you started with a fib.
How do we treat this with FSM?
The atrial fibrillation is.
The bottom part of the heart is theventricles and they're thick muscles
like it's the business end of the heartdoes the contraction that's hard enough

(27:53):
to squish all that blood out all the waythrough the atria into your body and then
out through the atria into your lungs topick up oxygen before it comes back in the
other way and then goes out with oxygen.
The vagus innervates.

(28:15):
The left vagus innervates theventricles, the muscle part, and the
right vagus innervates the atria, andthe atria are not muscular, like the
ventricles, they're thinner, and, butthey have electrical conductivity.
Conductivity, and they're sort of linkedwith the ventricles because they have

(28:37):
to fire in a certain order in orderto get the blood where it needs to go.
If the vagus isn't working right, theventricles instead of beating like
they're supposed to, Sorry, the atria,instead of beating like the rest of
your heart, you know, th thump, ththump, th thump, 63 times a minute,

(29:02):
the little electrical plug in theatria can start beating really fast.
And it yeah, it just takes off.
So it can beat up to140, 150 times a minute.

(29:26):
And when it does that, it just getssort of fluttery and doesn't do a job of
moving the blood where it needs to go.
In order to slow it down, the role ofthe vagus in the heart is very important.
is to slow conductivity inthe ventricles and the atria.

(29:49):
George had atrial fib, and we couldturn it off in about 10 or 15 minutes
with just running increased vagus.
Around the neck, where it comes outbehind the ears, and then down just
below his chest, or right over hischest, and, because he didn't have a
pacemaker, and neither does this guy.

(30:13):
So it's Oh, I'm in and out of atrial fib.
Okay, so atrial fib, youjust treat the vagus.
Oh, oh, oh, there was one other thing.
It's really cool.
He said, Oh, and my neck is really tight.
Hmm.
And he pointed, hedidn't point to his neck.
He pointed to here right behind the ears.

(30:35):
SCM scalings.
It's actually where the vaguscomes out right behind the
ears, the jugular foramen.
There's a little hole where your jugularveins go in and and out of the brain.
But it's where the vagus comesout, the jugular foramen.
And then the vagus forms thisspider web that goes up under

(30:57):
your jaw, into your palate.
In your tongue make, get, makessaliva, makes mucus, makes your
palate go up when you say makes yourepiglottis close when it's supposed to
so you don't choke on your own spit.
Enervates the esophagusand bronchi and all that.

(31:18):
But it, so there's this big spider web.
And so one of the things I did thefirst day and the second day was
scarring in the vagus in his neck.
First day.
Cause the second day he camein and he said the weirdest
thing happened last night.
When I got out of the clinicand headed in the car I turned
my head and my neck popped.

(31:39):
And then about two hours later I turnedmy head the other way and my neck popped.
And about three hours afterthat, it popped three times.
It's never done that.
It's
yeah.
I mean, I mean, the, the common themeI'm hearing from, from many different
directions is the vagus nerve.

(32:00):
I'm hearing it in the neck.
I'm hearing it with adhesions in the gut.
I'm hearing it as a driver ora causative factor to Crohn's.
So I mean, there's three, threedifferent scenarios where it's just
screaming at you to notice me, treat me.
And dysphonia, and atrial fib,and Crohn's, and painful belly.

(32:24):
It's it's just, and stiff neck.
How, how much of this will last,and how much of this will need a
custom care on a regular basis?
What's interesting is theyalready have a custom care.
And a person that programmed it for themin Hawaii just put on the wrong stuff.
They've been treating, it's like,Why are they treating like 7 out of

(32:49):
the 10 things that were on it werecompletely useless for what he had.
I thought that was interesting, buthe, when you take apart scar tissue,
the nice thing is it stays apart.
It does, you know, you break up the, thebonds that hold the scar tissue together.
And then they, when they go to try andreform, they're not in the same place.

(33:14):
Thanks.
It should be more or less permanent.
One can hope.
That's kind of the plan anyway.
I'm just, I'm thinking again withthe vagus, how much constant support
the vagus nerve is going to need.
Oh, he's, he'll, we'll haveconcussion in vagus and vagal
tone programmed onto his unit.

(33:35):
And I probably will programscarring in the small bowel,
scarring in the sclerosis and theadipose, scarring in the Lymphatics
scarring in the capillaries, right?
Cause the momentum is full ofcapillaries and lymphatics.
And just for maintenance at homeand he'll be taking Hupper ZNA.

(34:00):
It is a. It's a supplement thatis a mild, it's not prescription
strength obviously, but it's a mildacetylcholine esterase inhibitor.
Acetylcholine is what the vagus uses as aneurotransmitter, and there's an enzyme.
Acetylcholinesterase, whose jobit is to take acetylcholine apart.

(34:26):
So you give the patient somethingthat will slow down that enzyme
and leave acetylcholine in thesynapse just a little bit longer.
So that, that's a supplement.
It's non prescription.
You can get that.
Wherever you get your supplements,
peppers in a, there is a prescriptionversion of it that's much

(34:50):
stronger, but I don't know, in 19
HUP oh
H-U-P-E-E-R-Z-I-N-E,
letter
dash a.
And I can remember my mother takingthat for cognitive function in 1990.

(35:12):
Wow.
So hoppers in a used to be prescription.
Then they came up with astronger version of it.
So they made hoppers in a over thecounter and the prescription strength
or prescription item is still available.
It's fascinating.
Very neat.
Yeah,
that we learn in this podcast,

(35:34):
it's, and, and the thing is, you'llhave this, the nice thing about
this video is in this particular,this is a very rare condition.
So the odds of anybody that's listening,seeing sclerosing mesenteritis, it's like.
Zero.

(35:54):
You're never going to see it, but you'regoing to see endometriosis patients.
You're going to see Crohn's patients.
You're going to see IBS patients.
You're going to see patients that havehad oh, ruptured appendix, peritonitis.
Anything that inflames the wholebelly, you're going to have a bunch
of scar tissue and low back pain.

(36:16):
And so the, the important partabout getting it on video was
how to place your hand, relaxyour wrist, relax your fingers.
And the only thing you contract are yourfinger flexors or not even your dips,

(36:38):
just the way his belly was configured.
I had to go this way with my handand being able to demonstrate that
and talk about what makes you stop.
So you're pressing and you getto something that's hard as
soon as you touch it, you stop.

(37:00):
And you wait, figure out what it is,go to scarring and whatever that is.
And there's a question here about.
Any concern of undoingthe anastomosis with 13?
No.
The anastomosis, you could feel theperson that did it, did a really good job.

(37:20):
An anastomosis, you take thistube and you overlap this tube.
And then you stitch them together,so you have a double thickness ridge
that you could feel and I thinned outthe scar tissue, but the, the small

(37:42):
intestine was not, it just wasn't mobilein that spot and it should be movable.
Thinning out the anastomosis wasone thing, but getting under the
small bowel and running scarring in.
The adipose scarring in thecapillaries, scarring in the ascending

(38:06):
colon, scarring in the small bowel.
It's, it's just I opened Netter up to showthem, I pretended it was to show them.
It was really so that I could getanother look at where everything was.
And

(38:29):
so that we had a landscape, amap of where we were going to
go and what needed to be done.
I think we hear that that's a commontheme and question with 13 is will
it undo scarring that was, you know,holding something post surgically

(38:51):
intact or so on and so forth.
I haven't seen that happen.
Have you?
No, I really haven't.
I haven't had any I haven't had anydifficulty with that at all, ever.
We use it, we say also as a precautionin the acute stage in those initial
few weeks of healing to not run 13when the body is forming a scar.

(39:16):
We don't want to interrupt that.
So we let the body do its thing.
And then after, you know, five,six weeks, you can start using it.
It's very helpful with a littlebit of cross fiber friction.
You can help organize asthat scar is forming, but we
want to stay away from that.
And that acute.
initial stage of healing.
As a rule of thumb at six to eight weeksafter the original injury, you just wait

(39:39):
until the scar tissue is good and solid.
And if anything, scarringtends to be a little exuberant.
So there's always extra and it's almostalways disorganized is the problem.
It takes almost a year for, Theimmune system and motion to get

(40:01):
scar tissue organized so that it'srunning in the right direction.
And all of the random pieces offibrosis that go the wrong direction.
Those have been undone well, bythe time you get them at 15 years
later, if the unnecessary scartissue was going to come apart.

(40:26):
It would have come apart and it has,so I didn't worry about it too much.
Kate is asking, what's the doseyou recommend with heparazine A?
I have taken there's one companymakes 100 milligram, there's
another company makes 200 milligram.
I bought one of each.
I can't tell the difference.

(40:47):
So I'm using up the bottle of 200milligram before I go back and
use up the bottle of hundreds.
So 200 milligrams doesn't create anyproblem with, if you have a patient
that has spasticity or any problemwith increased tone or tremor, you
don't want to use heparzine A becauseAcetylcholine also contributes

(41:12):
to muscle contraction, right?
So it's multitasking.
And so it makes it alittle bit challenging.
You have to be careful with it.
More careful with the prescriptionversion, the hyperginea is mild enough.
It doesn't usually get in the way.
So that's pretty fun.

(41:33):
Going back to omentum and viscera.
Oh, goody.
So much
to talk about with, with, All thegoodies that you went through.
We've never talked aboutthis before on the podcast.
I know I was thinking about that and I'mnot sure how we've gotten to a hundred and
so many episodes without taking a reallydeep dive into viscera and momentum and

(41:54):
it never walked into the office before.
And it was so unique that I called DavidEakes and he drove down from Seattle
with two cameras, his soundboard, his.
Confidence monitor, and we just tookover this 20 by 30 treatment room

(42:15):
that's meant for just that range.
So excited.
Yeah.
As you should be.
So going, going back to omentumand adipose which are crucial for
a thorough visceral treatment.
How much do you run toxicity in theadipose and the omentum, vitality

(42:37):
those are all those other factors thatthanks to some of our doctors that we
have met through the FSM community,learning that the omentum holds toxicity.
You know, I raninflammation in the omentum.
I didn't run

(43:00):
toxicity yet.
So I'll try that next time.
I see him Thursday and Friday.
So I'll see if toxicity does anything.
He doesn't have brain fog.
He's otherwise very healthy.
I mean, somebody with this rare,serious condition says, I am perfectly

(43:23):
healthy except for this thing.
And it's okay, then, sohe doesn't strike me.
So that's why it didn'toccur to me to run toxicity.
I had one machine that ran yesterday.
It ran an hour on 40 and 97, justbecause I was working on his left side.

(43:44):
And I had two machines doingtheir thing on his right side.
So I set one at justinflammation in the adipose.
And I think the other one Iset on scarring in the vagus.
So I wouldn't run into it when Iwas on the, on the left side of his

(44:04):
body, the left side of his body.
I was just working on the Descendingcolon and the small bowel again, and
the momentum on that left side, it's,and the thing about the momentum is it's
supposed to be slightly and squishy.

(44:25):
Yeah.
It's supposed to be the slightything that gives your small intestine
circulation, physical protection,you know, if you, if your dog jumps
and puts his paws on your belly,you don't want the dog's paws to

(44:46):
run right into your small intestine.
You want some cushion.
So adipose is for.
And it's, it is rich in lymphaticsand so immune activation,
lymphatic channels, lymph nodes,so 13 and 63, and capillaries.

(45:10):
Right.
And then when you look at Netter, I wassurprised at how many arteries there
are on the backside of the omentum.
Feed it.
Makes sense.
Yeah, who knew?
Similar question that I was goingto say, we also mentioned about
that patient having parasites.
They're asking if there are FSMfrequencies for parasites that you would

(45:32):
run and if there's drug therapy for that.
The, there are, let's seeif I can remember them.
22, 33, 43, 61. And there's another one.
There's five differentfrequencies for parasites.

(45:52):
Oh, you're checking the buddy.
Yeah, because those never stayin my brain for some reason.
22, 33, something with a 7 in it.
61, which doesn't do much.
Yeah 61, 43
22,
yeah, 43, 61, 22, 33,

(46:15):
33, got that one.
The only ones I see.
Okay, maybe that's it.
Anyway,
so I ran those in his gallbladderand the ascending colon.
Had some, had some discomfort inplaces where he shouldn't have
had discomfort, it didn't seem.

(46:36):
So I ran those just in case andthat helped it be more comfortable.
So the medications that you takefor parasites are what's his name?
Dietrich Klinghardt has a sequencethat my, naturopath put me on.
Simon, you had prescribed six antiparasite medications to be taken at

(47:00):
huge doses all at one time, which wouldhave been a bit of a challenge for
my liver and my bank book was about20, 000 for four weeks of therapy.
Wow.
Yeah, so we didn't do that.
So my.
Naturopath said Dietrich Clanghart has aseries, and you take Mabendazole, which

(47:24):
I think in Mexican grocery stores isover the counter, you just buy it the
way, just right off the little shelf.
So Mabendazole,
Praziquantel, Ivermectin,
something else.
That's somebody could help, and thenAlinea, so there's, there's five of them.

(47:50):
So you take three days of mevandazoleoh, metronidazole, which is
flagell, that one's everybodyknows about, then praziquantel, and
ivermectin has to be compounded.
And, you know, they give it to horses asa gooey liquid, but the dose is wrong.

(48:11):
So ivermectin, you have compoundedinto capsules that are the
right strength for humans.
And when I took these.
I, the only one I noticed anythingstrange about was Ivermectin, you
know, how you get off, off thetoilet and you look in the toilet.

(48:36):
And after Ivermectin, my first dose,I did this double take because there
was this white fuzzy ball in there.
It's that is not normal.
And then Alinea is the new onethat is very broad spectrum.
And you're supposed to do.
Each one, so three days, five days,three days, five days of something

(49:00):
else, and then ten days of Alenia.
Then you wait six weeks, and you'resupposed to do it all over again.
I didn't do it the second time,but I seems to have got Oh!
Phenbendazole is available.
Leaf, you're just afountain of information.
Via Amazon, it comes out of Latvia.
That's interesting.

(49:21):
Oh, that says heparzine A goes inmicrograms rather than milligrams,
whatever, it's 100, there'sa 100 and a 200, so got that.
Anyway, so the, the the anti parasitemedications, now, some of the
naturopaths like to use oil of oreganoand wormwood herbs and whatever.

(49:46):
When it comes to parasites,I'm not even nice.
I believe in chemical warfare.
And because the little crittersjust create an enormous amount of
trouble activate the immune system.
Just sort of burrow in and make ahouse, you know, build little towns
in your appendix and your gallbladder.

(50:08):
It's gross.
Yeah, that's a good phrase.
It's like gross.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
We have a couple more questionsjust to make sure we, we get them.
Removing scars when an ablation isperformed for AFib slash flutter.
It works due to the scarringaround the PVs and Cox lines.
Will it affect the scars?
She's been implementing scarfrequencies, believing it to eliminate

(50:32):
would be perceived as Extraneous.
The whole thing just went away for me.
Oh, where, yeah, I can see.
So I've been implementing the scarfrequencies, believing it would, it
to eliminate what would be perceivedas extraneous scarring in the atria.
Annie had atrial fib that waslong term and just really chronic.

(50:58):
And there are patients who have.
Multiple nodes, sinoatrial nodes,they're, it's the electrical part
that signals the atria to contract.
For some reason, some people justdevelop multiple ones of them.

(51:18):
So you, they go in and do an ablation.
They're not just.
There should be one or two of these nodes.
There are people that have 20 andthey go in and they just keep blading
them and sometimes there's morescar tissue than there should be.
So then I would wonder, would youdo scarring in the vagus or would

(51:40):
you do scarring in the heart?
Because we don't have a separate,I don't think we have a separate
frequency for the atria.
I'm not sure.
But you'd wait.
At least 8 to 10 weeks with, withatrial fib, you, you really want
the ablation to do its thing.

(52:00):
I get respectful.
I mean, the question you have to askyourself with FSM is what if it works?
If you take the scar tissue out of theatria, What is the potential hazard?
There's that.
What if it works?
The same thing with the ladythat asked about undoing the
anastomosis at the small bowel.

(52:22):
It's what if it works?
I palpate as this ridge of scar tissuegot thinner and that ridge of scar tissue
was always where he got his obstructions.
So getting it thinner and gettingthe small bowel more mobile
was what I was feeling for.

(52:42):
There was never a point where if, if youbust through an anastomosis, you will know
immediately And you'll know to get to thepatient to the emergency room because the
small bowel will start to leak or bleed.
Usually bleed first, if you'relucky, and then you just run

(53:05):
stop bleeding and turn that off.
Can we, FSM, I know we're almost done, canwe use FSM with a Dexcom G6 insulin pump?
My feeling about pumps is particularlyvigilant with insulin pumps.

(53:27):
Now, baclofen pumps,there's no off switch.
Morphine pumps, there's an offswitch so you can turn them off.
Spinal cord stim units, whichare implanted TENS units,
you can turn those off.
Insulin pumps have an offswitch and they always have a

(53:49):
reservoir that can be refilled.
As far as I know, the reservoir, I'mnot particular, not familiar with
that particular pump, but you canusually, if the reservoir is external,
there'll be a needle into it andjust undo the needle from the pump.

(54:11):
That's, it's, of all the differentkinds of pumps, the insulin pump
is the only one that can kill you.
If, if it goes haywire,
and it delivers too muchinsulin, you're dead.
I mean, it's just that's it.

(54:32):
You, you, you can unless you haveorange juice and other things to get
their blood sugar back up really quick.
And you recognize the fact that they getall sweaty and pale and not looking good.
So I, I just turn the insulin pump off.
They almost always have off switchesand or unplug it from the reservoir.

(54:55):
There you go.
Wow.
I know.
We need to revisit the viscera nextweek because my list is growing.
It's a thing.
I have so many more stories to telland so many more questions to ask.
So we'll Part B of theViscera will be next week.

(55:16):
Okay, and I'll let youdo more of the talking.
I just got all excitedabout what we did yesterday.
No, yeah, this was needed.
No one needs to hear me talkwhen there's that to hear from,
and, and the, the exciting thing isthat we'll have it on tape and it will
be on the resources page as the we'llprobably call it the visceral tutorial.

(55:40):
It's the, yeah, how towork on somebody's belly.
It's pretty cool.
It's four o'clock already.
It is.
Alarms are going off.
Okay, fine.
That's pretty, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, that's the fastest hour of the week.
Yeah.
It is.
I'm in time again.
It's
good to see
you.
You too.
And thanks, everybody,for coming, as always.

(56:02):
Yes.
And we'll be here, sametime, same place, next week.
See you next
week.
See you next week, everybody.
Bye.
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