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May 6, 2025 48 mins

Timnit Gebru, PhD, AI expert, advocate, and founder of the Distributed AI Research Institute (DAIR) and Émile P. Torres, PhD, a philosopher, discuss how eugenic ideologies are influencing Silicon Valley and driving the push for artificial general intelligence. They talk about how eugenic thinking pervades American culture, including Big Tech and medicine, and is foundational to the worldviews of some of the powerful people in the United States today.

 

KEY TOPICS

  • Introduction to main idea of TESCREAL paper: the cultural push to develop artificial general intelligence is undergirded by eugenic thinking

  • Dr. Timnit Gebru discusses her intellectual journey of tackling bias and discrimination in technology and  becoming a vocal critic of Big Tech

  • Review of the core ideas of the philosophies in the TESCREAL bundle (Transhumanism, Extropianism, Singularitarianism, Cosmism, Rationalism, Effective Altruism, and Longtermism)

  • Concrete examples of how TESCREALism is playing out in the United States today

  • Why is it important to interrogate “the why” in our efforts to build artificial general intelligence?

  • How does the TESCREAL framework serve as a jumping off point for taking a critical eye towards genetics and genomics research?

  • Dr. Timnit Gebru & Dr. Émile P. Torres discuss their greatest fears about the future of eugenic thinking in American culture

  • Thought experiment: how could knowing our likely date of death and cause of death from birth change our relationship to mortality?

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