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April 22, 2025 39 mins

In this engaging interview, Judy Robbins welcomes Sheila Lanier, a top-producing realtor and friend who shares her journey as a single mother and her decision to set up a financial legacy for her daughter. They discuss how Indexed Universal Life (IUL) insurance policies can provide tax-free retirement income for children while guaranteeing their insurability for life. Sheila explains why she started a policy for her 16-year-old daughter and how this small monthly investment will grow to provide substantial tax-free retirement income, while also serving as potential funding for education, home purchases, or business ventures along the way.

 

Sheila Lanier is a top-producing realtor in Fredericksburg, Virginia, and co-founder of R House Realty with Samson Properties. Born and raised in the Stafford, Fredericksburg area, Sheila has over 20 years of real estate experience, including extensive commercial real estate work with Silver Companies. Before real estate, she worked in sales at GEICO and Capital One, and sold gear and equipment for military and government. As a single mother following the loss of her previous husband, Sheila is passionate about women's empowerment and financial education, leading a women's accountability group and a Facebook group with 5,000 members dedicated to supporting women.

 

Key Topics Discussed:
● Women as Financial Decision-Makers: How women often make the major financial decisions in households (9:45)
● Breaking Financial Silence Across Generations: The importance of openly discussing money matters with children (14:25)
● The First-Time Homebuyer Journey: Sheila's passion for helping first-time buyers achieve homeownership (16:10)
● Indexed Universal Life Insurance: How IULs work as tax-free retirement vehicles for children (21:30)
● Setting Up Children for Financial Success: Starting small with $60/month contributions at age 16 (23:15)
● The Zero-Floor Advantage: Why indexed policies protect against market downturns (30:45)
● Living Benefits of IUL Policies: How they provide financial protection during health crises (35:20)
● IUL vs. Roth IRA: Key differences and advantages of each approach (38:40)
● Creating a Financial Legacy: How proper planning can impact generations (42:15)

 

Powerful Quotes from the Episode:
"I love working with first-time home buyers just because of the excitement. A lot of times they've been working so hard to pay off debt and not spend and to get their credit up and to save for
that, whether it's the down payment or the closing costs." (16:10)

"Every single transaction is different. Every single transaction has its own start to finish journey, which makes it just exciting." (16:45)

 

Additional Quote Options:
"We've had that conversation about what we need versus what we want." (18:40)

"When she gets to 65 and then when she after it compounds and at 70, she can start taking out an amazing yearly money, a salary, tax-free." (24:15)

"Even this alone is breaking that generational curse... Now that she'll be equipped with this education, she can educate her children and then they can educate their children. And so it just
keeps growing and the knowledge just keeps growing." (40:40)

"What if that machine were you and you're the money-making machine in your house? If you were to get hurt, if you had a major medical diagnosis and you couldn't earn income... would
that impact you? Would it impact your dependents?" (33:50)

"I will always be coachable. I will always be trying to learn and grow. So I think that's so important." (43:15)

 

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