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Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi, I'm Heather.
Hey guys.
I'm Zoe.
Welcome back to Girl and Drunk.
We are.
I actually
am in a good mood today.
Yeah.
I've been up for two hours and it'seight 15 in the morning, so eight
15 in the morning.
Yeah.
I was up at, I was up at five, but Wow.
But I went to bed so early I went,I was in my bed eyes starting

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to close at like eight 50.
Wow.
That's impressive.
Yeah, it was really nice.
It was so nice.
Impressive.
I was at a. What would I call it?
I guess it's like a influencer dinner.
Well, it wasn't even 'cause it wasjust like a soft opening, I guess.
A soft opening to arestaurant was the restaurant.

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Cool.
So there was like multiple floors.
It kind of felt very Nashville to me.
Like when I went to the bars in Nashville.
Yeah, there was like five different floorsand each floor was a different vibe.
It was kind of like that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Did you like,
that's also like Bergin, but there'sjust more sex the higher you go.
Yeah.
And it wasn't like dancey.
I think it's more gonna be likerestaurants, different floors.

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I think it, that's good.
Like cool.
The rooftop is kind ofmore of like a bar scene.
It's an outdoor rooftop.
It was like cool.
But yeah, not enough food.
Not enough food.
We just like are al,we're always children.
Yeah.
We always need to have food.
Adults definitely need to have food.
'cause then when adults throwtantrums, it's actually, yeah.

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Dangerous.
Yes.
So we need to be feeding people.
Well, it's
just like I expected thereto be food and maybe I just
shouldn't expect anything ever.
And then I would never gethighly like hopes down.
Low expectations.
Low expectations.
Always guys.
Yeah.
That's how I would go into dating.
It's just like, I don't fucking care.
I really like when people care too

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much
or like put too much pressure on things.
You're gonna get hurt.
It's one of those thingswhere I'm like, oh yeah.
Like I always go into thingswith low expectations.
I think that's a thing that I say tomyself, but that is not, it's not true.
No, that's not true.
I'm like always expecting like,or at least for me to be my best.
Yeah.
You know, like I, I, right.
I put a lot of pressure on that.
Like how can I curate thedate to make it so good?

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Yeah.
You know, but not on you baby.
Yeah.
I wanna be neutral.
That's like one of the thingsI, like, I was talking to my
therapist about yesterday.
I was like, I just wanna be.
Yeah.
And that's, there was a point when Igot her to rehab where I think a lot
of newly sober people feel like this,where they are pretty fucking neutral.
Yeah.
Like when you, that first likesix months at a rehab, you're

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like, window of tolerance, stayingneutral, staying in my lane, not
letting the outside world affect me.
And it does really work.
Yeah.
And then it stops and I'm like,
shit.
Well I think like a lot of thetime, like you get outta rehab and
then like there's nothing that'sgonna like come into your world.
Yeah.
Like there you're pretty neutralbecause nothing's else is happening.

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Yeah.
But then like eight to 12 monthsdown the line stuff starts happening
in your life and you're like, fuck,I have to deal with this sober.
Yeah.
And that's where it really like testsyou if everything was neutral all the
time, like Yeah, of course you can getthrough anything, but life is about
like having problems and solving them
ebbs and flows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It just, I do know as an addict it'slike the more I let myself get outside

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of my window of tall, I'm like.
That's where the drinking starts.
Yeah.
That's like the relapse behavior.
The like being like, okay, I don'tneed to bring myself back to neutral.
I can go to bed in like a,this state and like, yeah.
Just yell at people.
Like, it's, it's not good.
So I do my, my path is so quickthough, from like, being neutral to
being a hundred crazy for like weeks.

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Yeah.
But I feel like that's almost,that's not say better, but like, it's
the same, like, for me, I'm like,I push a lot of shit underneath.
Sure.
And then like one day I'll explode.
Yeah.
And like, what's that gonna be like?
Oh
my God.
Gotta wait and see.
I think the other day Iwas like, do you get mad?
Yeah.
Do you ever get mad at anything?
Like, I don't know.

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Yeah.
I've never seen you like, lose your
shit.
Well, I was mad the otherday when we recorded.
'cause I thought I was just being like a,like nothing was happening in my brain.
I just felt mush.
Mm.
Last time, last week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not yesterday.
I did too.
I was mushy, but we looked
so cute that episode.
We
did look really cute.
So it's literally fine.
It's literally fine.
As long as we're cute.
As long as we're cute.

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Um, so it's been a week.
Yeah.
Um, how are, how is your mental health?
My mental health is good.
Um, yeah, I feel like there'sbeen a lot going on, but I
have like a break this weekend.
Mm-hmm.
So I'm just excited to relax.
Yeah.
Are you gonna go to the water?
Is there water over there?
Yeah, I'm either, I'm gonnago to the beach definitely.

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And Sarnia on Monday.
And then I think on Sunday we're eithergonna go to the beach in Chatham or
we're gonna go on the boat in chat.
Ooh, who has a boat?
His, my boyfriend's mom's.
Husband.
So his stepdad.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's fun.
Yeah.
It's nice to know someone with a boat.
It really is gonna boat.
We gotta find a boatThat's gonna be you soon.
We gotta find a boat.
It's gonna be you next year.

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We gotta get a girl on drunk pontoon.
Yeah.
Pontoon
on the pontoon.
As soon as we got into the, um, dinnerevent last night, there was like a
fucking, um, country music band playing.
Huh?
Like right as we walked in, therewas just like a country music and
I was wearing my cowboy boots.
So I like knew.
Yeah, you were like me.
I feel so right in my boots.

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Yeah.
And then they handed ustequila shots and then
now in general, we had to swerve that.
That didn't, you weren't expectingthat to be a country anything.
No.
So in general, how do you feel when youwalk into a bar and it's like unannounced
that there's country music playing?
Like how do you feel about country music?
About
um, I mean, it's not my preferred genre.

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No,
no.
However,
however, like.
When we're at the LakeHouse next weekend, yes.
We can play some countrymusic by the fire.
So I'm not opposed to that.
I was dri, where was I?
Why was I in the car forso long the other day?
Oh, new market.
Oh, okay.
And I, when you drive to newmarket, it's like more country vibe.
Yeah.
Than well than the city.
Yeah.
And just like driving that way, I like,I didn't put on any music, but there

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was like some country song that came on.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, first ofall, I know all the words.
And second of all, like in theprivacy of my own car, yeah.
I'm okay with this.
Yeah.
I'm okay with this.
Yeah.
You know, it is nice.
That's like what welistened to growing up.
It was always country.
Country in the car.
And I'm like
nostalgia.
I feel like it wasn'tcountry growing up really.
And then my family moved to Sarniaand then all of a sudden my dad was

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like, country, country, country.
Big truck.
Let me buy a big truck.
Yeah.
All the, it turned him into acompletely different person.
SAR needed did, turned usall into different people.
I
wonder if the girls who loved Brad Paisleyare also the girls who loved T Swift.
'cause I'm trying to think likecountry, there was a big Brad Paisley
thing going on, and if, I don'tthink that Brad Paisley is like a

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hot person, like he's not for me.
Yeah.
I mean, he's a good lookingperson, but not for me.
So I never really understood why everyonewas like in love with Brad Paisley.
It was probably just like the countryvibe, but it just wasn't my vibe.
But it was, people hada boner for that guy.
I can't even think about whathe looks like, to be honest.
Just like white cowboy hat.
True.
Classic, classic America.

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Um, yeah.
But I think we can listen to some country.
I'm, I'm excited, I'm like down tolisten to country in certain settings.
Am I ever gonna put it on by myself?
Absolutely not.
And um, I saw someone thatI follow post a carousel the
other day of what's a carousel?
The slides on, um, Instagram.

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Oh.
Oh.
Like a post with like multiple,
oh, I did not know that'swhat it was called.
I'm just a slideshow, slideshowPowerPoint on my Instagram.
But she posted it to thesong, A song by Zach Bryan.
And now I was like, oh.
And now I hate you.
That's weird.
That's weird, eh?
Well, the person I'm involved withjust told me that he went to, uh, a

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cafe the other day and they, someonethey were playing Diddy and Mace, like
they were playing just like an old bop.
And he was like, that was so weird.
And like, maybe it's a lapse of judgmentor like, maybe it's not a playlist or
whatever, but I'm like, yeah, maybeit's just like random Spotify playlist.
Like that just keeps going.
And like, but I'm just like,guys, no, it's not appropriate.

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It's like I hear remix toignition randomly often.
Yeah.
And I'm like, guys, why isthis even in the zeitgeist?
This shouldn't, this should be wiped.
Should we do mental health or doyou wanna get into that right now?
Let's do until fourth first.
Okay.
I know.
It is like a good conversation.
We're going into everything.
Um, yeah.
My mental health is good.

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Um, I also saw my friends the other day.
I haven't seen them in like,probably like three, four weeks.
Mm-hmm.
So that was really nice.
Um, at, at the beach?
At the beach, she, one of them,it was her birthday and she hung
out at the beach all day long.
They were there from like 2:00 PM till9:00 PM cooked on a random like Wednesday.
'cause none of them likework 'cause they're young.

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They're in school still.
Yeah.
How fortunate.
Um, but I went there like after workand my one friend was like, how are you?
Like, how's work, whatever.
And I said, work's literally fine.
Whatever, like work's work.
Mm-hmm.
And she said, yeah, I guess I.When I think about you now, I
think about the podcast, not youractual job, which was really sweet.
Yeah.
And then she admitted that she stillhasn't listened to the podcast.

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Mm-hmm.
Because she's afraid to listen.
Yeah.
Because I think she knows that she is analcoholic and she needs to stop drinking.
Mm-hmm.
She wants to slow down her drinkingand moderate it, but she, again, she's
been saying that for like a year now.
Yeah.
And
like putting rules on like, I canhave two drinks a night, or if it's
an event I can do shots, whatever.

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Mm-hmm.
She sent that to me last weekand meanwhile she was doing
shots at the beach on Wednesday.
Mm-hmm.
So it's like I don't, we are alreadynot following this, but my people that
I swear myself drink more than yours do.
Yeah.
So I feel like my group ofpeople, well, because the
people in my life are you, no.
You
do have some other people.
I do.
I, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
But I feel like my people, like,I feel like a lot of them probably

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are more scared to listen to thepodcast because of those reasons.
Yeah.
Because like they are scared tolook at their drinking, which.
It brings up a point like ifyou are still drinking, you can
still listen to the podcast.
Like we're not shaming you for drinking.
Yeah.
It's just like we're talking aboutour experiences from drinking.
How do you feel?

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Yeah.
Having a friend who's like clearly Welland now it's interesting because she is
like said some things to you like that.
Yeah.
Even mentioning the podcast is like, okay,
yeah.
You're
saying to me you can't listen becauseyou're gonna have to look inward.
That's great actually.
Yeah.
That's like a really interesting step.
But how do you feel as aperson who has a friend Yeah.
Going through this kind of struggle?

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I mean, it's interesting because she has,this isn't the first time she's mentioned
something like that to me before.
Mm-hmm.
Like I said, she's been like, Ithink she's known that she has a
problem for at least a year now.
Yeah.
I remember going to Tiff last year withher, like the Toronto International
Film Festival and she admitted to methat night that like she wanted to stop.

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Wow.
And like she kind of.
Was going through it.
Um, and then she was gonnado like dry October, and then
she drank a week after that.
So it's like this has been happening.
So she's been knowing it's justwhat, when is she gonna be ready
to take the actual steps Yeah.
To being sober.
Yeah.
But this is the foundation,like when I, this is, yeah.

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Like these are all goodthings that she's saying.
Mm-hmm.
And at least she's realizing it.
Yeah.
But when I would admit it, I wouldbe like, yeah, I'm an alcoholic.
Like Right.
I love it.
Like I, I'm a drunk guys.
I fucking love being an alcoholic.
Yeah.
Like, that's was my internal thing.
Like I had to switch it to be like,I fucking love that I drink too much.
But then,

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but did you hate it?
Yeah, but I had to say that to myself,so I didn't like look too much inward,
you know, I could admit it, but I had toadmit it into like a, I fucking love it.
Okay.
Not like I'm depressed because of it.
Yeah.
You like flip the script on
yourself.
Exactly.
It is interesting.
It's, it's.
It's cool.
And I'd imagine a little scary to have afriend who you're like, you are drinking

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so much, and like, does it give you likehope when she says things like that?
Or are you just likewatching from the outside?
It does
gimme hope, but I feel likeI've gone through this with
like a few of my friends before.
Like they say they wanna stop and thenthey don't, and then they say they
wanna come to meetings and they don't.
So it's just, it's nice that they say it.

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I don't get my hopes up untillike some action's being made.
Mm-hmm.
And obviously they're there.
They know that I'm therefor them when they're ready.
Yeah.
But it's not my responsibilityto like reach out and be like,
Hey, are you drinking today?
Like Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
That is a good point too.
It's like this, this podcast isa sobriety mental health podcast.
Yeah.
But sobriety is all of that.

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Yeah.
It's the foundational steps.
It's, it's from the first time you say,oh my God, I might be drinking too much.
Yeah.
Or I've had a. Drink every single day forthe past two months, or month or a year.
Yeah.
For me it was that I was in Toronto.
Mm-hmm.
And I'd been there for a year andI was like, I've been drunk every
single day for two years actually.
Yeah.
And I knew that, and thougheven looking back, I'm like,

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that was a step to sobriety.
Yeah.
Even though that was the beginningof like, the worst addiction ever,
it was like I was admitting likeI knew something was happening
and you kind of keep doing that.
Yeah.
And then before I got sober, itwas probably like a year Yeah.
Before I got sober whereI started planting seeds.
Yeah.
Of just like randomly saying itlike, I, I drink too much or I can't

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stop, or like, I wanna go to rehab.
Yeah.
I wouldn't say all these things whenI was drunk, but listening to you
talk about your friend, it, it, it'syour friend so you're close to it.
But I'm like, it kind of sparkssome hope in me a little bit
because it's like, yeah, she knows.
And like we said, likeunfortunately something.
She hasn't maybe hit her rock bottom yet.
Yeah.
Like maybe some bad thingsstill need to happen to her.

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What?
That's like the hard part of likebeing her friend, like knowing
like, oh, maybe like she does needto fucking go through more shit.
Mm-hmm.
To realize.
But that's like what happens.
It's the same thing, like ifyou have a friend who's dating
a bad boyfriend, you know?
Yeah.
It's like they need to figure it out forthemselves that this fucking man sucks.

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Yep.
Same with drinking.
You just have to wait for them torealize that they have a problem.
Yep.
Same with eating, samewith working out too much.
Yeah.
It's all very connected.
Yeah.
It's like you can know you wanna stop,you can know you do something too much,
but then still be like, I've got it.
Yeah.
I can handle it.
Or it's still serving me in a way.
I can't not ready to give it up.
Yeah.
And then when you do, you're like, I haveto go and break up with this relationship

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with alcohol I've had for my whole life.
And that's the only thingthat's been with me.
And now I'm gonna cry.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, it's,it's hard, but it is.
It is.
It's so cool that you are ina situation where like you're
surrounded by people who do drink.
Mm-hmm.
And if they need to not,they can come to you.
Yeah.
That's so cool.
I love it.
Yeah.
And like,
same with all of you guys.

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All good.
Come to us.
Come to us.
That's interesting.
But yeah, so mental health,my mental health is good.
Yeah.
I would say, I'm like, I'm rocking
with a seven or eight today.
Good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Honestly, I feel so much bettertoday than I did yesterday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My energy I came with in with yesterday,I think I was just tired yesterday.
It was also 40 degrees at 8:00AM Yeah, that's also true.

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Yeah.
I mean, it isn't, not that today, but
it's, yeah.
I can't think about howsummer is ending soon.
Yeah.
Because I will literally cry.
Yeah, it does give me nausea.
It gives me the same nausea of like,oh, we're going back to school.
Yeah.
Even though we're not.
Yeah.
It's like, that's so interesting.
That like fall crisp, dewy sweater.

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I'm like, oh no, it's happening again.
Um, how's your mental health?
My mental health is, it's fine.
Honestly.
I'm, I'm good.
Things are good.
I'm good.
My mental health is always gonna be crazy.
Yeah.
I feel good.
I had therapy yesterday.
I think at the very least, I feel reallyconnected to who I am and what I want.

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Yeah.
And that's really nice.
And yeah, I don't have to get toomuch into that, but I just, I feel,
I feel like I know me in a waythat like I've never known myself.
Well, you're
trusting yourself more too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think it's like with somerelationships that you have,
you like want to like know whatthey are right away or like.

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Want to figure them out.
But you have time, like you have Yeah.
The privilege of time.
Like you don't have to figureout what you guys are doing.
Also, also, like you can take it slow.
Yeah.
And that's that like, you know mm-hmm.
I listened to the clip of yours mm-hmm.
Like over and over again yesterday.
That was just like, thisis your first relationship.
Yeah.
I'm gonna say ever.
'cause you're sober.

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Yeah.
And I'm like, I, I reallylike took that in last night.
Yeah.
I was like it.
That's that's right.
Yeah.
I'm like young, I'm just,I haven't done this before.
I haven't been in a sober relationship.
So everything
Yeah.
Is
sober.
Everything is new and I'm evenhaving friends, honestly is new.
Yeah.
So I'm like, I just feel like I'm tryingto do everything all at once perfectly.

(17:41):
Yeah.
And that can't be becauseI don't have practice,
even though I haven't datedsomeone since being sober.
Like this is my first relationship.
Like I've had situations, ships Yeah.
With guys for like six months before.
Mm-hmm.
Like, you know, like I've been in.
Relationships with other people, orthey thought you were in a relationship
and you Well, they definitelythought we were dating and I was not

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dating them because they did ask.
Yeah.
If you don't ask me to date, I'mnot gonna be exclusive with you.
No, I'm just floating around.
I'm just floating until you fuck me down.
Like George Clooney, that'sexactly what my boyfriend did,
talking about my boyfriend.
Mm-hmm.
He told me yesterday that he listened orhe um, he, uh, he told me that he read the
transcript to the podcast from yesterday.

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Is that the wording?
He read the transcript.
He read what we were saying, I guess.
Like an Apple podcast.
Yeah.
It's writes it all out.
He
didn't listen to it?
No,
he didn't listen to it.
Wait, I, he just like did a scrolland, 'cause he saw that we were talking
about open relationships, so he wantedto see what the fuck we were saying.
Yeah.
And then he saw thatwe were talking about.

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Licking assholes,
Uhhuh
and Oh, and that I would lick his asshole.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he was like, yeah, I'm actually like,I've gotten my asshole licked before.
Like, I would like that I
love him.
And he was like, but wouldyou want Heather to do it?
And I said, well, listen, I don't have,I don't need to lick your asshole, Don.
You don't feel like you need to,don't, I don't, I don't necessarily

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want to, unless you really want me to.
But Heather loves slicking men's hassles,so why don't you just let her do it?
Yeah.
And he was like, yeah, if shelike, loves it, then yeah.
Yeah.
We can have her do it.
I mean, I don't love it in theway I love pizza, but like, yeah.
I, I, if it's there, I'll do it.
I know.
If it's, if we're like ina thing, then yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
So he said that he's gonna keep hisasshole kept throughout the whole

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lake out next weekend, just in case.
Just in case anything happens.
Like me and your boyfriend,like, don't kiss, but like I
do put my tongue in his ass.
Exactly.
How close are you guys?
Pretty fucking close.
Pretty close.
Yeah.
That's the thing I wanted to tell youthat I need to be really happy about.
That's so, I'm so happyabout both of those things.

(19:52):
Yeah.
The, the,
the reading the transcript issuper weird, but I love that.
Super weird.
Well
then when he said that, I was like,okay, well now you have to go back
and like say that you listened to it.
So at least we get a view.
Like, 'cause you fucking read the whole
thing.
No.
Every week.
Whether he listens, reads or not.
Yeah.
I need you to go like,subscribe, like literally.
And actually, let me bring that up now.
Hi guys.
Hi guys.
It is so helpful.

(20:13):
Mm-hmm.
If you like and subscribe and sharethe podcast, share it, please.
Yeah.
It tell your friends.
Yeah, tell your friends.
Post it on your Insta if you're watchingit or if you're listening to it on
audio, it would really And tag us.
Yeah.
We love that.
We can be friends on Instagram.
Yeah.
But like, just like, likesubscribe if you are around and
you have your phone out right now.
Thanks guys.

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Thanks guys.
Love you.
Love you now.
My mental health took abit of a turn last night.
I don't wanna say my mental health.
My mental health is fine.
But last night I had a nice cry.
You texted me that thing and I knew it wascoming and I just have been looking at me.
I'm like, really massaging this chair.
I knew it was coming, but uh, I waslike, one, one of the early video

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episodes we talked about Yeah.
The NHL Hockey Canada trial.
Mm-hmm.
With em and these five men.
And yesterday they, all fivemen were found not guilty.
Not guilty.
Not guilty of any charges.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The judge said that the evidence was
not credible or reliable.

(21:17):
Yeah.
A female judge.
Yeah.
Just think it's importantto point that out.
Now, I'm not gonna say, we're notgonna say these like men's names ever.
Yeah.
Again, it's just
like so unfortunate whenthings like this happen.
Mm-hmm.
Because it feels like it's alljust going like the opposite way.
Like Yeah.
We think like we're so hopeful and thatwe think that things are moving forward.

(21:39):
Yeah.
And then we get like news likethis and it's just like, Nope,
we're still exactly where we are.
Yeah.
50 plus years ago.
Like nothing has fucking changed.
Yeah.
I think when things like this happenand it's also, well, okay, when
things like this happen and peopleare found not guilty, men are found
not guilty of abusing women, rapingwomen, all women who have ever mm-hmm.

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Been in any situation, abuse, violence,sexual abuse, anything like that.
Mm-hmm.
Or you didn't feel like youhad a voice in this situation.
Yeah.
This thing, this trialverdict hurts all of us.
Yeah, I know.
It feels like, oh, I'm gonna cry.
Mm-hmm.
I know it feels like a fuck you.
Mm-hmm.

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To anyone who has like spoken up orhad a friend that needs to speak up or
something has happened to you and itfeels like, well, fuck me, I don't matter.
Mm-hmm.
But you do.
We do.
Mm-hmm.
All of us do.
And you do matter.
It's not a fuck you,it's a fuck the system.
Yeah.
And.

(22:44):
If anything, Zoe, and I see you sofucking clearly we, and if anything,
just like speak up more, like,you know, like break the system
more, like keep fucking fighting.
Yeah.
Like clearly we need tofucking keep fighting.
Yeah.
Because we're still not gettingthe same treatment as these men do.
Yeah.
So,
well, yeah.
We live in a world where we treatrapists better than we treat women.

(23:06):
Mm-hmm.
And that's fucking true.
And it's horrible.
And it's scary.
And it's sad.
And I think the reactionsometimes is to get small.
It feels like, well, anyonecan do anything to me.
Why am I working so hard on mylife when it doesn't matter?
Mm-hmm.
What I do or what I am.
If you can just take it from me.
I think that's the impetus sometimes orthe, the, the, the feeling, the reaction.

(23:30):
Yeah.
But I think what needs tohappen is we need to get big.
Yeah.
And we need to get loud.
I think so too, because I don'tgive a fuck what that judge said.
Yeah.
That judge is wrong.
Those men are wrong andso many men are wrong.
Mm-hmm.
It just doesn't fucking matter.
Like whatever they said, whatever theverdict is, we all know what's true.

(23:50):
Mm-hmm.
Em knows what's true.
Their parents know what's true andwe're just gonna keep fighting for it.
Yeah.
That's all we can do.
Like, it's all we can do and we love you.
Yeah.
It's just, it's all also comingaround the same time as, you know,
the Diddy verdict and it's, well,
did you see, um, who's the girlwho took Shyla Buff to court?

(24:12):
FK Twigs.
Oh yeah.
FK Twigs dropped thecase against Shyla Buff.
Were they
dating?
Yes.
Okay.
And then some like abusehappened within the relationship.
FK twigs.
Accused Shyla, buff of abuse.
Mm-hmm.
And I think that was goingon for like years now.
And she just dropped the case.
Um, and everyone's saying like, thatjust means that he paid her off.

(24:35):
Yeah,
of course it does.
Yeah.
Or she's fucking exhausted.
Yeah.
Or she's exhausted andshe's seen the Diddy stuff.
Mm-hmm.
Like she's seen all these caseswhere the women don't fucking win.
No, it's money.
It's ex, she's also paying outso much money to her lawyers to
keep this fucking shit going.
Exactly.
And it's like, and he can just do that.
He can shell out asmuch money as he wants.

(24:55):
'cause he has more probably, I don't know,FK twigs, like I fucking love her music.
She must have some
money as well.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm sure.
But it's not fairbecause she's the victim.
Yeah.
So she shouldn't have to do that.
Yeah, exactly.
But at some point, yeah.
You have to decide whether like,I'm gonna keep exhausting myself and
putting my fucking family through this.
Yeah.
And my friends and myselflike, or I just live my life.

(25:18):
Yeah.
And he can go fuck himself.
Yeah.
It's really, really hard.
Oftentimes with women winning is justlike learning how to forgive and move on.
Yeah.
And that is, that's a great skill to have.
Yeah.
But it's fucking bullshit.
Yeah.
Like, you know, I know.
It, it really, it really, I think aboutit all the time that em, this, this
girl from the NHL trial, the victim,the survivor is sitting in court telling

(25:43):
her story in front of her mom and dad.
Yeah.
I don't even walk, want mydad to walk me down the aisle.
Mm-hmm.
I find that so cringey and so cringe.
Not that I don't love my dad, Ilove my dad, but we're not like
doing a performance for everybody.
And now, like this girl has toexplain what happened to her.
Yeah.
Multiple times to multiple men.
Yeah.
Police officers, people whowork in the courtroom, all

(26:03):
those, there's, it's mostly men.
And now she has to do all of thisand then try to win a fucking trial.
Yeah.
And it's like, okay, it's exhausting
and
we just, we really
believe you.
We believe all women, all
women.
Yeah, don't shrink.
Just get stronger.
Yeah.
And get louder.
And if you can't get loudright now, that's okay.

(26:24):
We're here.
Yeah.
We'll do it.
Yeah.
Just like rant to us,like DM us, like rant.
Mm-hmm.
It's, it's fine.
We got you.
We got, let's get into whatwe're going to talk about today.
What are we going talk goodbye today?
Hey, well actually, oh, and yesterdaywas Anne's birthday, so happy birthday.

(26:45):
Happy birthday Anne.
Happy birthday.
Arian Ann 31 and feeling fun.
Fuck you.
She got a, she got a husband.
She does got one of those.
She got a dog.
She got a dog and a husband.
She's so pretty.
She's so pretty great.
Great bone structure in that face.
Yeah.
Remember the first time I metArianne, I was like flawless skin too.
Great skin flawless.

(27:05):
I don't actually know if I've everseen a. Blemish on Anne's face.
Probably not.
She's perfect.
Okay.
So today we're, uh, I'm actually reallyexcited about this Me too conversation
'cause we got some questioners.
Yeah.
Questioners.
We got some questions.
We got some questions from the listeners.
Yes.
That's where we got questioners.
We got
questioners from the listens.
We asked on Instagram, if you'refollowing our Instagram at girl

(27:27):
Dun Drunk, we put it on Instagram.
Like, we just want you guys toask us what you want to know.
'cause Yeah, ask an addict.
I liked that.
Ask an ask an addict.
Ask an answer, asked.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the hilly.
Shut the hilly, shut the hell up.
Shut the hilly.
Um, yeah, so we, we, we putout a post and said, we wanna
know what you guys wanna know.

(27:48):
And we were very surprised withhow many submissions we got.
So we have, we did, we actually get a lot.
We got a bunch.
Okay.
We got like 10.
Fuck yeah, I
know.
Yeah.
We should do this like, kind of often.
Yeah.
I like not like.
Once a month, but likeevery, every quarter.
Well, what's
nice is like we get questions that I'mlike, oh, that's something that like,

(28:08):
we probably, like I probably mentioned,or you probably mentioned Yeah.
Touched Sean, but not like explained.
Yeah.
So it's nice to know what people arehearing and then like, wanna know.
I agree.
Because we wanna tell you literallyeverything you wanna know.
Yeah.
Like truly we're open books, likewe're doing this May as well do it.
And anything like sobriety, relapse,drinking drugs, sex friendships,

(28:28):
beep, bop boop, whatever.
Yeah.
Um, anal.
Anal.
Because the past
10 minutes I didn't do anal guys.
Oh yeah.
Zoe told us she was gonnado anal and now she, yeah.
I didn't, I backed out.
That's okay.
But we you backed,
you backed out.
You backed in.
You didn't back in.
I didn't want the butt plug was enough.
The butt

(28:48):
plug.
But So you did do the butt plug?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So good.
So good.
So good.
So hot.
We got some questions andwe're just gonna start.
We're just gonna start.
Okay.
I haven't, I don't knowwhat these are gonna
be, so I'm kind of scared.
Did I send you any of, Nope.
I didn't send you a screenshot.
Nope, I
didn't.
No, it's okay.
Okay, we're ready.

(29:08):
Okay.
So the first question wegot is, I like this one.
As a person with someone in their lifewho's an addict and doesn't wanna fully
acknowledge, see the severity of it.
How do I navigate thiswithout alienating them?
I don't wanna shame them,but I'm worried about them.
So did they admit that theyhave a problem or do they don't

(29:29):
know that they have a problem?
So it
seems that they have a problem, butthey don't fully want to acknowledge it.
Right.
And they don't see the severityof how bad it is, but the
people around them, I guess do.
Yeah.
This questioner, this listenerhas asked that how to navigate
this without alienating them.
So I'm assuming
that
means like they wanna still hangout with them, but they don't
wanna like make them a priority.

(29:49):
Yeah.
Yeah, because like you can.
Like, you do need to take some thingsaway from people in addiction so
that they can see what they're Yeah.
How they're harming other people.
Yeah.
You know?
So like, yeah.
You don't need to make thisperson a priority anymore.
And you can even tell them like, Hey,I can't hang out with you all the time.
Like, I can't put you firstbecause this is like really hard

(30:11):
for me to see you like this.
Mm-hmm.
And like, I don't wanna not bethere for you, but I just need
to like keep an arms distance.
Like I'm always here when you'reready to reach out and like we
can, we can still see each other.
Yeah.
But I am not, it's like too hard for meto be, to see you every day like this.
Yeah.
And you think you can,

(30:31):
do you think you would have the confidenceor courage to say that to somebody?
I think I've already kind ofsaid that to my one friend.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And someone has said it to you too.
Yeah,
yeah.
I, I, it's, well, when my friendscut me off, she was like, no, I
have to not see you completely.
And honestly, I think if someone saidto me like, Hey, like I am gonna be

(30:52):
there for you, but I can't fully bethere for you anymore because you're,
yeah.
It's sad for me.
I can't see you like this.
Yeah.
That would make me way, feel way betterthan just cutting me out completely.
Yeah.
Like, I wanna know that I can stillreach out to you if I need support.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I think that, I think that, butto know that I'm harming someone

(31:13):
would make me like actually lookinward and be like, wait, I'm
hurting someone that I care about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I. I think that when, whensomeone is sick or struggling, sometimes
if you're a friend and you're likean empath, you wanna go towards them.
Yeah.
And I think sometimes what thatdoes is it enables the addict.
Yeah, I think so too.
Now you're around when they'redrinking and that like makes it

(31:36):
seem like you're okay with it.
Yeah.
And even if like they know you'renot super okay with it, you're there.
Yeah.
And so it's like, well, I'm justgonna desensitize that person to it.
Yeah.
And I think there's a bit ofenablement that goes on with
that, that isn't anyone's fault.
Yeah.
A lot of the time enablementis like nobody's active fault.
Well, because you wannalike continue to be
there for them, like youcare about them, obviously.
But I think Yeah.

(31:56):
Like you shouldn't bearound this person Yeah.
When she is drinking,
you know?
Yeah.
I, I guess I would say, wellthe part of this that is hard is
like I am so worried about them.
Yeah.
And I don't wanna shame them.
Yeah.
I think the shame is interestingbecause the shame we already have it.
Yeah.
We all know it.
And I think even if you don't realizehow much you're drinking, if you're a

(32:19):
drinker like that, you do feel guiltand shame and like shitty about it.
Well, and this is another thingthat our friend said to my friend
that's like struggling with drinking.
Mm-hmm.
'cause my friend that's struggling with drinking was like, I feel
so fucking terrible right now.
I feel like shit.
My other friend was like, yeah,you should feel like this.
Mm-hmm.
Like, you should feel bad aboutyour drinking because that's the

(32:40):
only way you're gonna change ifis if you feel bad and like feel
these feelings of shame and guilt.
Like,
yeah,
it is good.
Like, it's not good to make yourfriend feel shame, but like that's
the only thing that's gonna likemake her wanna like do better.
Yeah.
You know, you can't baby addicts too much.
Like, they'll just fucking keepdoing it over and over again until
some real consequences happen.

(33:01):
Or like Yeah.
You fucking yell at them.
Like, it sucks to yell at your friend.
I know that.
But sometimes it's what we needto snap the fuck out of it.
Yeah.
I, I don't think that you can sayanything wrong to your friend.
Yeah.
I I think that whatever emotionscome up, 'cause you're not gonna say,
I fucking hate you dumb alcoholic.
No, but maybe you will.

(33:22):
Yeah,
that's true.
And that's not great and you'renot gonna feel great about that.
But it is also like howyou feel in the moment.
Yeah.
And addiction makes people feelfucking crazy whether you're
the addict or you're the friend.
Yeah.
It, it makes you feel crazy.
An addict cannot be thepriority in your life.
Mm-hmm.
It can't.
They can't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You have to be your biggest priority andif your mental health is suffering because

(33:45):
your friend is addicted to something Yeah.
Put
yourself first.
You have to.
Yeah.
Because it's, it's nothing you do is goingto change them because then you won't
be able to help them when they are ready.
Yeah.
'cause you'll just be inso much pain yourself.
Yeah.
You have to make sure you're goodso that your friend is ready.
Yeah.
She has you to go to.
Yeah.
You know,
like you just have to say like, you'regonna always be a support for her,
but like, this is making you fucking.

(34:06):
So sad and that you needto take a step back.
Yeah.
I'm here for
you.
When you're ready.
I think you can also say exactlywhat you said in this email.
Like, yeah, I'm worried about you.
Mm-hmm.
I don't wanna shame you.
That's, I don't wanna make youfeel like I don't like you.
I'm worried and I don't wanna be aroundsomebody who's hurting themselves.
Yeah.
That's hard for me to watch.
Yeah.

(34:26):
And so maybe we can't beas close friends right now.
Yeah.
However, I'm here always.
Yeah.
I think that's perfect.
Yeah.
We say all the time like, you can'tget someone else to get sober.
But if you, if you start taking thingsaway from them, if you start distancing
yourself, it's gonna go one of two ways.
Either they're gonna be like, fine,fuck you, and I'll isolate even more.
And then maybe that'll getthem closer to getting sober.

(34:47):
Yeah.
But there isn't anythingyou can do as a friend.
Not really.
You know?
And I think you need to know that
and like just not being around themwhen they're drinking all the time.
Yeah.
Will.
You can't be around someonewho has a problem and just like
allow them to drink around.
Mm-hmm.
You, because you are enabling
in that moment.
Yeah.
Like that is enablement.
Yeah.
It's a fine line between likeenabling someone and ditching them.

(35:11):
Yeah.
And it's like it allhas to come back to you.
Mm-hmm.
And, but I, I think that's true.
I think say your feelings.
I think I don't wanna shame you.
Yeah.
I'm very worried about you.
This is affecting me.
I don't wanna be around it.
I agree.
I think that's fine.
Perfect.
Thank you for your question.
Thanks.
Next.
Won't I wanna stop drinking,but I'm scared I'll be boring.

(35:32):
Help.
Same.
I thought that.
Mm-hmm.
I thought that too.
I didn't
know.
I didn't know that I had a personality.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Which is so funny because, so funny.
You have such a fucking personality that.
I, this is probably how you see me too.
Yeah.
'cause I went into rehab being like,I don't know how to make friends.
I don't know how to talk to anyone.
I don't know if I'm funny.
I don't know if I'm nice.
I don't know if people like me andjust like, not drinking is boring.

(35:55):
I thought, I thought like, you're justlike a fucking loser who doesn't drink.
Yeah.
You know, it's
like, I'm gonna be boring.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
That's what they're saying.
I'm scared I, I'll be boring.
I'll be boring.
Yeah.
Because innately like withoutalcohol, life is boring, I guess.
You know?
I think it's like, that issuch an interesting question.
But like every, everyone thinksthat when they're gonna get sober,

(36:16):
like everyone thinks I can'tbe sober, I'm gonna be boring.
Like, that's a very universal.
Mm-hmm.
Just point that everyone thinks.
Yeah.
And it's like I wasboring in my addiction.
Yeah.
All I fucking did.
That's what I was gonna say wasdrink to the point of oblivion.
That's boring.
That's so boring.
Yeah.
Like I'm doing
so
much,
so many things now every single day.

(36:36):
Not a thought in my head, notan interesting point of view.
Not like not caring about my friends.
Yeah.
That's the thing, thinking that you'resuper fun now when you're drunk.
Mm-hmm.
You're not.
Yeah.
And being sorry, but you're not fun.
And being drunk with your friends islike honest to God, not anywhere more
fun than being sober with your friends.

(36:57):
Yeah, that's true.
I know that's like how,it's hard, but it is true.
Mm-hmm.
At least when you're sober,you're remembering things.
Mm-hmm.
And you're building on friendships, andyou're coveting things and you're, yeah.
Like you're becoming a better person.
You're out with your friends andyou're like, okay, if I wasn't
drinking, I'd have nothing to say.
I'd be boring.
I wouldn't be funny, Iwouldn't be laughing.

(37:18):
What's what is boring.
Yeah.
Because if you're out withyour friends and you're having
conversation, that's not boring to me.
No, that's fun.
I I actually think thatboring isn't a worry at all.
No.
I just don't think that that's a worry.
Yeah.
Are you gonna feel a little out ofplace if you're the only one not
drinking for the first few months?

(37:39):
Yeah.
You are.
Yeah.
But you can also find soberfriends then, like, goes away
and you can find sober friends.
Mm-hmm.
And also like, when I'm aroundpeople who are drinking, I feel
like, I like feel drunk off of them.
You know?
Yeah.
Like, I feel like, like they're gettinga little bit loose, so I'm like, Ooh, I'm
gonna get a little bit loose too with it.
Yeah.
Like,
it,
it lets everyone's into inhibitions down.
Mm-hmm.
And then like, I feellike kind of drunk too.

(38:01):
Yeah.
Like you get the same, like Yeah.
You feel the same things as adrunk person, as a sober person.
Yeah.
Like I feel like Yeah.
The nights.
It's nighttime.
Everyone's having a good time.
Yeah.
I feel all the same thingsas a drunk person does.
Yeah.
Except no throwing up and no Yeah.
Regret and No, and I'm notmaking a fool outta myself.
Like I'm aware.

(38:22):
I'm just having a good timein myself and trusting myself.
Yeah.
And we, we felt like we, we,we really did feel like that.
We really, I thinkeverybody feels like that.
Yeah.
I don't know what I'mgonna do when I get sober.
I don't know who I'm gonna be.
Yeah.
I think that's actuallyreally fucking exciting.
Yeah.
Now listen, you're not gonna justgo to dinner with your friends.

(38:42):
Yeah.
And all of a sudden belike the life of the party.
Of course not.
That's not gonna happen.
And you have to find yourself in sobriety.
Yeah.
And once you do, you'll love it.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's okay to bethe InBetween of things.
Yeah.
Is so okay to feel like, oh,I wasn't super fun, or Yeah.
Oh, I was a little boring.
Or like, oh, I was really hyper.
Like there's, it's okay to feelthose ways if you don't, you think

(39:03):
at least you're feeling things.
At least you're feeling something again.
And And boring people don't know.
They're boring and boring.
People don't worry about being boring.
So if you're worried about it, no one'sgonna say, Hey, you're fucking boring.
You know?
Yeah.
Probably not.
But you're not boring.
You're not boring.
Nah.
Don't worry about being boring.
Do you know
someone who's boring?
I do know a man that's really boring,but he doesn't think he's boring and he

(39:25):
doesn't know, and he's never asked anyone.
He's not concerned whetherhe's boring or not.
If you're concerned, whether you'reboring or not, you're not boring.
You're boring.
Probably not boring.
Not boring.
Yeah,
true.
Yeah.
You're gonna be fine.
But it's also like, it would make mefeel better that like literally everyone
thinks that when they're gettingsober, like that's one of the main
things that people talk about in themeetings like that you're totally fine.

(39:45):
You're gonna look on the other sideof things and be like, oh my God.
Yeah.
One of my rehab counselors said to me.
If you have a problem sittingwith yourself and being bored, if
you can't do that and you have todrink, then we've got a problem.
Yeah.
You've got to get to know yourself.
Yeah.
You gotta sit with yourself bored.
That's the other thing.
Like boredom is good.

(40:05):
Yeah.
Boredom is discovery.
Boredom is realizing things about yourselfand you should be bored sometimes.
Yeah.
We're allowed to be bored.
You don't, you should not haveto fill that with substances.
Exactly.
And like before, I could never sit inmy house by myself without drinking.
Mm-hmm.
And now it's literally my favoritething to do is just sit with myself
because I fucking love myself.

(40:25):
Oh my God, I love myself so much.
Same.
We've done such a good.
Love you so much.
I love you so much.
We do such a good job.
Okay, next question.
Should we become therapists?
I just am so bad at school, Zoe.
I know.
I wish there was like a crash course.
Also, we can't be therapists.
We have way too many opinions on things.
That's true.
I forgot they have to likenot really say anything.

(40:46):
What we could do ishave a podcast together.
Thank God we do.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Where did this come from?
Okay, next question.
Thank you for that question.
Do you think sobriety isbecoming, never been more excited.
Never been more excited in my life.
Do you think sobriety is becomingtrendy or just more accepted?
Mm. What do we even thinkabout sobriety culture?

(41:10):
Well, trends are what's likepopular right now in culture.
Right?
That's just what a trend is.
Yeah, and I think like people right now.
With the whole, um, COVID generation.
Yeah.
Like some of the kids are scared to drink.
Mm-hmm.
So mocktails are more popular.
Yeah.
And I think people are now realizingthat yeah, drinking alcohol is

(41:33):
poison and I don't wanna do that.
Yeah.
And like, the people who don't haveproblems are like, yeah, why am I gonna
drink one glass of poison a night?
May as well have a fun mocktail.
I think it is becomingway more accessible.
Yeah.
And way more like, there iszero beer everywhere now.
Yeah.
Like, it's so much more acceptable.
20 years ago it was not a thing to 2020.

(41:56):
Like four even.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like pre COVID.
Pre COVID.
Yeah.
There was nothing.
Mm-hmm.
But I think it's just, yeah, it's atrend because that's what people are
actually leaning towards these days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's is to not drink.
There's like an uptick in mental health.
Yeah.
That's definitely more accessible.
It's more on our phones.
I also think there is a, I mean, trendy.

(42:19):
Trendy is kind of likea buzzword, but I, yeah.
I feel like, in my opinion, what I'mseeing on my Instagram is a lot of A
DHD diagnoses, whether they're selfdiagnoses or things like that, and the
link between a DH, ADHD and drinking.
Yeah.
Like a lot of womenright now are just like.
Oh, I'm not drinking because I havea DHD or I have this or I have that.

(42:41):
Yeah.
And they're realizing that it is fuckingup their hormones or their bodies.
Yeah.
It is a depressant too.
Like Yeah.
And being 30 and puttingdepressants or anybody.
Yeah.
But I think also, this is myalgorithm because this is my age.
I'm like seeing these women who arelike getting off of birth control for
the first time since they were 14.
Trying to get pregnant.
Yeah.
Being like, why am Iso tired all the time?
Oh, A DHD, this, this and that.

(43:02):
And then it's like, oh, alcoholis the first thing to cut out.
Yeah.
So I don't necessarily know if like beingsober is the trend or if just like health
is the
trend.
I think it's more, health is,health is the trend, to be honest.
Because like, I don't think, likepeople are like, there are some people
in my life that are sober, soberwho aren't alcoholics or addicts.

(43:23):
That's just like, theyprefer not to drink.
So weird.
Yeah.
It's like crazy.
It's like, so what do youmean that was always so crazy?
Like I understand drinking waytoo much and then having to stop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But just being like, not for me.
It doesn't, it doesn't, you know.
It doesn't, it's not conducive to my life.
I'm like, make it conducive.
I'm like, what do you mean?
My life was conducive around drinking?

(43:44):
Yeah.
Like I, I never even had theoption to be like, exactly.
It's not for me.
It's not for me.
Yeah.
Sometimes I'll be like, oh, I haven'thad potato chips in like a month.
And then I'm like, man, I could'venever said that about alcohol.
Yeah.
I just, it's my, every,it was my everything.
Yeah.
What was the question?
Oh, trendy.
Trendy.
Trendy.
I think like, even going to that eventlast night, like there was mocktail

(44:09):
options at every one of the floors mm-hmm.
Of like the, uh, space.
Yeah.
Which I, yeah.
Like four years ago, thatwouldn't have been an option.
There would've just been wateror cocktails or shots, you know?
Yeah.
Like, it wouldn't haveeven been an option.
And I, it's more accessible, so it islike, people want to not drink all the
time, like on a random Wednesday night.

(44:30):
Yeah.
Like, you know, like.
And then if you are having likefour plus drinks on a random
Wednesday night, like look inward.
Yeah.
Like you might have a problem.
Yeah.
I think the good thing now islike mocktails are available.
Yeah.
And if you, what you just said Yeah.
If you do wanna go outthere is the option.
Yeah.
To not get fucked up.
Yeah.
Like there's an option togo home at nine, you know?

(44:51):
Yeah.
I think the trend isthough, health and wellness.
I think so too.
I, I think, I mean, we're always inhealth and wellness of some, it's
either like having like a big ass atthe gym or like being a vegan or not
drinking or being thin or green juice.
Yeah.
Or like getting a facelift.
It all just feels likeit's always something.
It's going.
Yeah.
And, and so, but I think that like,going forward, I don't think that

(45:13):
people, like, I think that mocktailswill stay and I think that sober
options will stay, which is amazing.
Like it is a good time in life tobe sober right now because there's.
It's accessible.
Yeah.
And whether you're being so awarebecause you're like following a
trend or whatever, that's good.
That's good As, as long as likeyou're saving your life, you're saving
your life, you're your life, you'resaving your money, you're saving your

(45:34):
mental health, your heart, all of it.
Literally, your skin, your teeth.
Mm-hmm.
I think it's, I don't, I, I,I do, I I feel, the way I see
it is that there it is trendy.
Yeah.
It's been trendy a little bit.
And I think that's amazing.
Yeah.
Um, I also think there is like alot of alcohol in the world and like
big alcohol is a massive machine.

(45:56):
Yeah.
And so I think that I worrythat they're gonna try and
fight against it, but I think
Well, they're just gonnaput out like mocktails.
Yeah.
Price them up the sameamount as alcohol is.
Yeah.
Which is insane.
Well just get a pineapple juice.
Yeah.
And ginger ale, pleasedon't spend so much fucking
crazy ass money.
Yeah.
And also Zoe gets pineapple juice.

(46:17):
I get like a $16 mocktail every timebecause I'm just like, whatever.
Yeah.
Trendy or not, it's a good thing.
Like Yeah.
At least like, I mean, cocaineis trendy too, but like we're
not gonna follow that trend.
Yeah.
And
I think with, I think with, yeah, Ithink with trends they like ebb and flow.
Yeah.
So I think that there are a lot ofpeople who do like a dry January
or they do stuff like that.

(46:38):
Yeah.
Or they try to be sober.
Or they are sober for a year andthen they start drinking again.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I think it's, I think it's a trend andI think it's a great trend to follow.
Yeah.
It's like it's teaching people that thereis an option, a different lifestyle.
Yeah.
Because also no one even thoughtabout how like, oh, maybe I
can have a mocktail tonight.
It was just like, no, we'rejust gonna have a cocktail.

(46:58):
You know?
Yeah.
Like at least now.
People don't want, they can think like,oh, I actually don't wanna drink tonight.
Yeah.
I feel like that wasn't even an option.
It really
wasn't.
No, I think it's great.
It's very exciting.
It's great.
Oh, I love Mocktail Nation.
Yeah.
And I, one last thing, I feel like Imake it acceptable to drink mocktails.
Yeah.
Like I make it acceptable.

(47:18):
You make it acceptable to be sober.
Yeah.
It's like we go into a place andit's like, do you wanna drink?
And it's like, yeah,I'll have this mocktail.
Yeah.
I don't give a fuck no if anyonecares if I'm drinking or not.
Yeah.
So like I make it acceptable.
Just make it acceptable for yourself and
like it's cool and also it's acceptable,it's cool to like not follow so
cool what everyone else is doing.

(47:38):
It's cool to be different.
Yeah.
And it's cool to putyourself first and prioritize
your health.
A hundred percent.
Next question.
Next question.
Cap.
Can you stay in a relationship ifone person is sober and one isn't?
What if your partner doesn't getwhy sobriety is a big deal to you?
So I think those are two questions.
Well,
did they, was she soberand then met this guy?

(48:00):
Hmm.
Or I don't know.
Were they together andthen she got sober is
okay, well we can go through both.
Let's go through both.
So if she's sober and shemet someone who's not sober.
Yeah.
I think that's an interesting situation.
I think then like shechose to be with him.
Yeah.
You
know?
Yeah.
And like clearly she chose him becauselike he supports her in some way.

(48:23):
Yeah.
You know, it's, I think like whenI was dating other guys who were
drinking, like it was fine for me.
Mm-hmm.
But also I didn't reallygive a shit about them.
So I guess it would bedifferent to actually.
Be in a healthy relationship withsomeone who is still drinking.
I think I would never be able tobe in a relationship with someone

(48:43):
who drinks every fucking day.
No.
Like if they drank like once aweekend, I would be fine with that.
And I think that would be okay.
Mm-hmm.
Because again, like I don't wannarely on my partner to keep me sober.
Yeah.
I'm relying on mysponsor to keep me sober.
I'm relying on the meetingslike, like I have other things.
I don't wanna rely on my partner, so Idon't necessarily need him to understand.
Mm-hmm.

(49:03):
Sobriety fully.
Yeah.
That's what I think personally.
Yeah.
I think it also dependstoo, why you're sober.
Yeah.
Are you sober because you'rean addict and you have a or?
Or you have that's true issuesaround drinking and you really can't
and you need a sober companion.
Yeah.
But then again, likeyour sober companion can
be like your friends or your sponsors.

(49:23):
Yes, of
course.
But for me as an addict, Inow, in my life, I don't.
I'm not searching outpeople who are drinking.
I'm not because I, I don't, I don't do it.
I don't like it.
It's not for me.
I can't do it.
Yeah.
So you don't think youwould ev your partner would
ever be someone who like drinks casually?
It's
possible.
Yeah.
Um, the person I'm with now does not Yeah.

(49:45):
And I like it a lot.
Yeah.
Like, it is honestly
really nice that my boyfriend's sobertoo and that like, we get each other.
Yeah.
'cause hanging out is adifferent thing for us.
We're not like going, I mean,we can, we, we can go to a bar
and get like a zero zero beer.
Sure.
Yeah.
But we're not getting fucked up.
Yeah.
Like it's, um, it's really nice to neverhave to think about alcohol in that way.
Yeah.

(50:05):
Um, if I did date somebody, I, I,I think the answer is like, yes.
Yeah.
You can be sober and bewith a person who's not.
Um, I think you just like can't
rely on them to like,
keep you sober
though because they don't understand it.
Yeah.
Like that.
Like if you're datingsomeone who drinks casually.
They're not gonna understand.

(50:26):
Like you can't expectthem to understand either.
You can't force them, you can'ttry to make them understand.
No, they're not gonna understand.
Period.
End of story.
Yeah.
You have to have other people inyour life that understand and like,
don't, you can't put that on yourpartner 'cause he doesn't get it.
No.
Yeah.
I think boundaries are a good thing.
Like I think, you know, after youjust asked me that question, would

(50:48):
I ever date someone that's drinking?
I, I don't think you would.
I just don't think I would.
Yeah.
It's not my lifestyle at all.
And I just feel like I,I am such a sober person.
Like Yeah.
I, I don't want that tobe part of your life.
Like, I know about alcohol nowand you shouldn't be doing it.
Yeah.
And I
just, I just, yeah.
I, I, I like my life being sober andnot never being, because listen, having

(51:11):
someone come home and crawl into my bedat 3:00 AM and kiss me and them being
like, whiskey mouth, I don't know.
I'm not doing that.
I feel
like it's fine for me'cause I have a superior.
Superiority complex.
Sure.
And I'm like, oh yeah.
Like I'm better than you becauseyou're totally, you drank
tonight and I didn't Yeah.
You know, like I'm better than you.
So like, I feel like that's where,that's not maybe like not gonna be

(51:33):
a healthy relationship, but I thinkthat's what make, would make me feel
fine with my boyfriend drinking.
Yeah.
Would you wanna be around yourboyfriend if he was drinking?
Like if we're going out Okay.
To like a party or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He can drink because I don't know if Iwanna be, but if he was drinking every
single night, no, I can't be with you.
No.
We need to be able to do things sober.

(51:54):
We need to be able to go to dinnersand you not have to order a drink.
Yeah.
Like we're like, you can drinkonce in like once a week.
That's also if we're going out, that's
also interesting.
'cause I'm not gonna putrestrictions on a person I'm dating.
Yeah.
With their alcohol.
If that's the hard thing.
I had a friend in rehabwho was a alcoholic.

(52:14):
Mm-hmm.
Duh.
A nutso, duh.
She was the nicest, sweetest person.
And then the stories of her,when she would drink, she was
like running away from cops.
Like she was a nutso.
I love her.
But when she got into her, she's married,and when they got into a relationship,
they both just casually drank.
Yeah.
And I know that he drinks probably,he's probably like a six pack

(52:37):
every night kind of person.
Oh really?
Or at least like three every night.
Okay.
Like, I
don't think he's getting fuckedup, but he does drink, but he
has no interest in stopping.
But she, that would bother me.
Yeah.
But she is a nuts, so, so she had to stop.
Yeah.
But that, that dynamic when shewas in rehab telling us about

(52:59):
like her husband and she was like,you know, he doesn't wanna stop.
And I don't, I know, I don't knowhow to like be what he needs if
like, I need to stop drinking.
I don't wanna ask him to stop.
And my counselor stopped her and was like.
So he either loves you or he doesn't.
Yeah.
And if you, if someone is in love withyou and they committed to spending

(53:19):
their life with you and you can't drinkalcohol anymore, they should stop.
And, and he said, if they don'tstop, they either don't love you or
they have an addiction themselves.
Yeah.
And that was like, holy shit.
So
true though.
Yeah.
My
friend, um, she had a problem andher husband was like, yeah, like,

(53:43):
you need to stop drinking, babe.
Like, you need to stop.
Okay.
Um, and she was like, yeah,I know I need to stop.
And he said that he willstop drinking as well.
Mm-hmm.
Because she, he would, he knowsit would be way too hard on Yeah.
Her if he continued to to drink as well.
Yeah.
So
now they're both sober, I think like.
Maybe three plus years.

(54:04):
Wow.
And they just like both don't drink.
Yeah.
And that was so cool of him to belike, Hey, I know this is gonna be
really hard for you to stop fuckingdrinking, so I'm gonna stop with you.
Yeah.
And that is a good partner.
It's also so hot.
So hot my friend, they smokeweed still, but like Sure.
They're fine.
Like I think that's the difference.
And that's the type oflove that I would want.

(54:25):
Yeah.
You know, like I don't want someguy just like, oh yeah, my wife
needs to get sober, but I'm stillgonna drink a six pack every night.
Yeah.
Fuck you bro.
But that person.
Also has an addiction.
And I think that, yeah, I think he does.
Yeah.
And I, and you need to look atyourself like, this should be inspiring
that your wife's getting sober.
You know?
Like Yeah.
You shouldn't treat her like shit.
Yeah.
I think there's a lot of, you keepputting her through more, there's

(54:46):
a lot of beer culture amongst Yeah.
Mostly amongst the men.
And that's not a judgmentthat's just like That is true.
Yeah.
And the six pack of beer a, afew beers every night, people
think that's very norm core.
And it's just, it's not.
Yeah.
Like you shouldn't be relyingor, or shouldn't whatever
you, it's also just like so bad for you,like, but you're relying getting to health

(55:06):
and wellness.
Ugh.
Yeah.
It's frustrating.
It's like, why are youdrinking six beers a night?
I know.
But like even three beers a night, it'slike, yeah, you have to take the edge off
after the kids go to Bed Shore, but youstill are relying on those three beers.
Yeah.
Like if you were told like, oh, Ican't have those three beers tonight.
You would go crazy probably.
Yeah.
You wouldn't be thrilled.
Yeah.
And I think that.
Someone pointing out that thatis an addiction is really hard.

(55:29):
Yeah.
And so I'm assuming from my friendwhose husband was drinking, I
think he's an addict for sure.
My other friend, she stopped drinking.
She's relapsed a few times.
Her husband got sober likebefore one of her relapses.
So he's actually beensober longer than her now.
Oh.
But he's cool.
He didn't get sober.
He, he was fine.
Like he didn't have an addiction.

(55:50):
Yeah.
He didn't wanna keep
drinking around her.
Yeah.
He was like, if she has to do this.
Yeah.
I realize that.
Like, and
that's like a, that's a normal reaction.
Like if you see theperson that you love Yeah.
Have to give up something.
Mm-hmm.
Why would you drink that around thatperson and then like, flaunt it in a way,
you know, well, you're probably an addict.

(56:10):
And that's going back to the question.
Yeah.
Like if they.
Were together.
Mm-hmm.
And then she had to stop.
Yeah.
I like, same thing.
He would've seen why she had to stop.
Yeah.
You should.
He should want to stop drinking too.
Yeah.
You know, I think if, maybe if you'resober for just like health reasons
and you don't have a brain problem.
Yeah.
Like you can just, yeah, you can.

(56:30):
I'm sure there's a lot of people whoare like, oh, I don't, I don't think
twice about alcohol and I don't care.
But yeah,
if like, you guys aren't on the same pageof like your reasonings why I think like
maybe it's not gonna work in the long run.
Yeah.
The other thing, yeah.
So it, it really depends, I thinkwhether you're getting into a
relationship as a sober person,I think it's a lot to get into a

(56:51):
relationship, establish a relationship,establish a flow, being like, yeah,
we drink and this and this and this.
One of you has to be like, or oneof you is like, I can't do this.
I don't wanna do it.
Yeah.
That could change your whole dynamic.
Yeah.
And and it might.
Yeah.
But then if he's likesupportive of everything.
Yeah.
And like maybe he doesn't have to stopcompletely, but like at least like only
drink on like very special occasions.

(57:11):
And that's like verysupportive to your partner.
Yeah.
That's like being veryhelpful in a good partner.
Yeah.
If you're just like, yeah, likeyou should stop, you have a
problem and then continue to drink.
Yeah.
It's just like that doesn't make senseto me as being a supportive partner.
Yeah.
I don't think it's like stupidor dumb or juvenile or like red

(57:32):
flaggy to date someone that drinks.
Yeah.
If you don't drink.
But I think you have to do what's bestfor you and what's best for you as a
person who doesn't drink is your sobriety.
A hundred percent.
And the person, if you prepareyourself first, always.
Yeah.
And you.
And you can't rely on yourpartner to keep you sober, period.
No.
And making the change, making the decisionto get sober can change a lot of things.

(57:52):
Yeah.
It really can.
And it should.
And
maybe you don't even
like your partner.
Maybe you get sober and you lookat your partner, you're like, oh,
I actually don't like you at all.
Yeah,
that's exactly right.
I think that in terms of sobriety,'cause now the question is what
if your partner doesn't get whysobriety is a big deal to you?
I think.

(58:13):
I think that just like doesn't meanthat you guys are gonna continue.
Yeah.
I just don't think it like thatbecause you don't have to understand
every single part of somebody,but sobriety is so important.
Yeah.
And personal and a life choice thatif you don't get it, that's okay.
You're never gonnaforce someone to get it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
If they wanna get it, if they havethe capacity to get it, maybe they

(58:35):
don't get it and then theywant to learn how to get it.
Yeah.
Perfect.
That's great.
If they just don't get it and theylike, don't share an effort of like
actually caring about it at all.
Yeah.
Then like Yeah.
That's just like, not your partner babe.
No,
and I think, I think you, it is alittle bit your responsibility to
explain to your partner, like whetheryou're in the relationship already.
Yeah.
Or you're getting into one.

(58:55):
It's like, I'm sober this,these are my boundaries.
Yeah.
This is what I do.
Yeah.
Do you fit into that?
Yeah.
If they don't get it, they don't get it.
And that means they don't get you.
Yeah.
And then, and then you know what?
We're done.
And if they don't get you, then they don't
really actually care aboutyou at the end of the day.
Like, if they're not like willingto like, care about your sobriety,

(59:17):
ask questions, limit their, likestop drinking around you as much.
Yeah.
Then they don't, they're not reallycaring about you as a person.
And
if someone doesn't get it, I don't thinkit's your responsibility to then really
go out of your way to educate them.
No, that's like what you just said.
Yeah.
If they, if they cared,they'd be willing to learn.

(59:37):
Yeah.
If they don't care, fuck it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Next.
Cholesterol.
Yeah.
Matt.
Wow.
I don't think I've run intoanyone who's like, wait, why?
Yeah.
Guy in Nashville thatwas like, oh, come on.
Just,
just drink with me.
Drink.
I mean, I would love for peopleto stop me on the street and be
like, wait, why don't you drink?

(59:58):
Yeah.
Or if someone was like, are you drinking?
I'm like, no.
And they just go, oh.
I go ask me.
Ask me why I am a crazy person.
Ask me.
I can't do it.
What?
What's this from?
Ask me about my wiener.
What is, what is that?
No, accepted.
Accepted, Justin Long.
Oh, I don't know.
Okay.

(01:00:19):
I'm so sorry.
It's literally not okay.
I'm just kidding.
Should I post that I'msober on my dating apps?
When should I tell someone I'm sober?
I think if you're
newly sober mm-hmm.
You should put it in your dating appsand you should tell the person, well.
You should tell the personyou're talking to before you
go on a first date with them.

(01:00:40):
Like, yeah, I'm not gonna,I'm don't drink, by the way.
Yeah.
I think if you're newly sober,like within like two years.
Yeah.
You gotta tell them.
Mm-hmm.
I'd never put it on my datingprofile, but I always told them
before I went on a date with them.
Yeah.
That I was sober.
I think like now, if I were to,if I broke up with my boyfriend,

(01:01:02):
I'm not going to, don't worry.
But if I was dating now, Idon't feel like I would feel the
need to tell them I was sober.
Really?
Okay.
Because like I'm just likeway more confident in my
sobriety that it doesn't really
matter.
Wow.
Okay.
So then you're gonna go, but would youstill tell them you're going on when,
before you go on a date that you're sober?

(01:01:23):
I would tell them like on the date.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't feel like I would feelthe need to tell them before
anymore because I'm just like,
good.
And you don't feel like that's gonnamake them feel awkward, that like,
oh, they're drinking and you're not.
Well, I kinda wanna see the reaction.
Okay.
In real time.
Okay.
You know?
Yeah.
So Zoe's already here testing them.
I gotta test them.
I like everybody around me toknow I'm sober at all times.

(01:01:44):
Yeah.
I am only two and a half years sober.
So like, I don't know how I'm gonnafeel when I'm five years sober.
But I like that.
Well, I guess I fucking lovean identity, but I just like
love people knowing I'm sober.
I feel like it keeps me safe.
Yeah.
I think
it does too.
And I think like in theearly stages for sure.
Yeah.
You should be tellingeverybody a hundred percent.
Yeah.
But like for now, if I was todate right now, I don't think it

(01:02:07):
would be like a non-negotiablefor me to be like, yo, I'm sober.
Sure.
But I would wanna seetheir reaction in person.
Like I would obviously tell them, yeah.
I don't think it would be like, aslike Sterning, because I did take that
very seriously and I did was yeah.
I was like, I need to tell everybodythat I'm sober before I see them.
Oh my God.
Speaking of that, it's like thentelling someone you're sober

(01:02:28):
without trauma dumping on them.
Yeah.
Is so crazy.
Yeah.
My first few dates, I remember my firstdate, I thought I was so cute and I
looked back to pictures and I was cute,but I was still in my de bloating era.
Mm-hmm.
And it's just I, which is also fine.
Yeah.
But like, I went to that date and I,I was like a mile a minute talking.

(01:02:52):
Mm-hmm.
Like how I am.
Yeah.
And I just was like, I'm sober.
This is why.
And then like, he was sober,so we were talking about that.
I honestly think he waskind of a liar though.
I feel like he maybe isn't sober.
Interesting.
But I went on a first date withthis guy and I was like over
communicating that I was sober.
I was like overly, overly.
Excited about that.
Like I had a thing to talk about.
Yeah.

(01:03:12):
It was really crazy.
And then he didn't call me back andI was talking to my therapist about
it and she was like, yeah, it's fineto tell people you're sober, but
like maybe pull everything back 20%.
Yeah.
You
know?
Yeah.
I think that like, you know, in yourheart, if you should like put it on your
dating, like if you're not safe, youshould put it in your dating profile.

(01:03:35):
You know?
Like Yeah.
If you don't wanna like havethat conversation with someone,
then just put it in your datingprofile so that they know.
Yeah.
But also not everyonechecks the dating profile.
You, I
don't know if this is like true, but itfeels true for me that like putting sober
in my dating app kind of also says like,we're not fucking on the first date.

(01:03:56):
Yeah.
Well.
That's not necessarily, I was fuckingon the first date and I was sober.
Sure.
That's not
necessarily what it means.
Yeah.
And also like I'm not opposed tofucking on the first date, but
it keeps like the pressure off.
It does.
Yeah.
And I feel like it almost is, andlike it is a little bit of a PSA
of like, yeah, I'm cool and sober.
I've got my wits about me today.
Exactly.
So

(01:04:16):
careful, careful.
You're not, you're notdrugging me tonight.
Yeah.
Also, I think that like if you're likenot yet like there of like accepting
your sobriety as a whole, you canjust put on your dating profile
like, oh, I'm not drinking tonight.
Like, or like I havesomething big coming up.
I can't be drinking.
Yeah.
Like you don't have to be like, I'm sober.

(01:04:37):
Yeah.
If you're not ready to fully admit that.
Totally.
Totally.
If you're just like trying to takea break from it, you can just be
like, oh, I'm not drinking tonight.
Yeah.
And like no questions asked.
You don't need to get into itand tell your whole life story.
Mm-hmm.
You just keep it at that if you arenot fully ready to admit everything.
Yeah.
And those first few datesare interesting, so just.

(01:04:57):
Be gracious with yourself.
Yeah.
It's fucking hard to like, have asecret that like, I'm a, I'm a, I'm
a junkie and be like, how are you?
I'm sober.
Why?
Well, yeah.
But it's like cute to belike, I don't look like a
junkie, but I am.
Yeah, that's true too.
That is like our little superpower.
Yeah.
Which, but you know, I, um,

(01:05:17):
I think if you're, if you're newlysober, of course you need to put
it on your, on you need to tell
people
Yeah.
And put it
on your profile.
Mine will probably be onthere for the rest of my life.
Yeah.
Whether I'm dating or not, I just like it.
I feel like it keeps my sobriety safe.
Mm-hmm.
It, it also like holds
people accountable.
It
holds people accountable.
It holds me accountable.
It's like, I am sober.
We're going on this date sober, so Idon't even really have to, like, if

(01:05:40):
you ask me what I wanna do, I like, oh,do I wanna go get drinks at this bar?
I'd be like, oh yeah.
I'm actually sober.
Yeah.
When, and that's the other thing,it'll come up organically usually.
Yeah.
They'll be like, oh,where do you wanna go?
Do you wanna go here and go?
Yeah.
Great.
I don't drink, but I'm happy to goand get like a zero zero or something.
Yeah.
That's what I usually ate said too.
And then oftentimes they go, oh, oh,well then let's just go somewhere else.

(01:06:00):
Do something else.
Yeah.
Like an actual restaurant or something.
So it does come up.
I've never gotten backlash in away that's like, oh, dumb slut.
You don't drink.
Like nobody gives a fuck.
So, and if they do, theyjust won't ask you out.
Yeah.
But, uh, yeah, for me it's supereasy 'cause I never shut the
fuck up about anything ever.
So like I immediatelytell everyone I'm sober.

(01:06:21):
But you can do what Zoe saidand just be like, cute about it.
I'm sober, no questions asked.
Yeah.
You don't have to tell everybody why.
No.
And like, you are not ob you're notobligated to tell them anything.
Literally.
It's a first fucking date.
Yeah.
But it is the assumption, Iassume it's the assumption.
I assume that most people aren't sober.

(01:06:41):
Yeah.
And so when someone'sasking you out on a date.
The, the norm of a dateis like to go get a drink.
Yeah.
And I think it's, it'sgood for both parties.
Yeah.
If you tell someone that you're sober,because then that way they have to
do a little more work than be like,oh, then we're not gonna a bar then.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
It's like a little bit of a,what else you got for me, babe?
What else?

(01:07:02):
We ain't drinking?
So bring the conversation,
run it.
Um, that is kind of the end.
There is one little ca theone little thing that's well
talking about first dates.
What mm-hmm.
Would I just thought about this question.
Yeah.
Where would you want someone to takeyou as a first date since you are sober?
Like what, if guys are listeningand like wanna ask a sober girl out?

(01:07:23):
Where would you take them?
Where would you wanna go?
What I would probably do, I, Iwould probably ask the girl like.
Or the guy like, yeah.
Are you into mocktails?
Yeah.
Because some people aren't, like, someonelike Zoe doesn't super love a mocktail.
Yeah.
I fucking love a mocktail.
Yeah.
So you could ask like,
are you, but would you wanna go to a baron a first date and drink a mocktail?
Probably not right.

(01:07:44):
Pro.
Probably not.
Yeah.
Especially, I don't if theywere gonna drink alcohol.
I did go to, I did goto a cocktail bar Yeah.
On a date with that guy that I, we madeout in my car and I almost threw up.
Yes.
Yeah.
I um, we, he took me to a barand the whole time I had told
him I was sober immediately.
Yeah.
And the whole time going to thatdate, I'm like, this is so weird.
Like, he's gonna drink.
Yeah.

(01:08:04):
He had three cocktails.
Yeah.
I had one cocktail and I was like,
yeah, no.
I don't think going to a bar on afirst date is ideal for a sober person.
I think that I would like a picnic.
Like bring me flowers.
Yeah.
Bring me like, thatwould be fancy sandwich.
There's gotta be more optionsto take sober people and.

(01:08:25):
More sober
things to do.
Yeah.
I think gonna, A restaurant is nice.
I mean it, we have different opinionssometimes about like restaurant on
a first date or like an activity.
But activity is great.
I don't love an our activity.
I would love to sit down andhave dinner and chit chat.
Yeah.
But yeah, there's othersober things to do.
I,
yeah.
You
can go to a
market.
You can go on a walk by the water.

(01:08:45):
You can have a picnic.
Like Yeah.
There's lots of things to do.
Yeah.
Get a coffee, go on a little walk, geta coffee, go shopping on Queen, on ancy.
Yeah.
You know, like there's, there'sso much to do, so much to do.
And I think that's why like,I liked my boyfriend so much.
'cause like on our first date wejust like went around and like
did my usual things together.

(01:09:05):
Yeah.
And like he loved it.
It's the best.
It's the best.
It really is the best.
Yeah.
Love that.
Well, thank you guys so much for yourquestions, Thankss for questions.
I hope we gave you some, some, uh,good little snippets of advice.
Yeah.
There.
And keep your questions coming'cause that's really fun, I think.
Yeah.
They can ask us questions all the time.
Whenever Yeah, all the time.
Send us a DM, email, whatever you want.

(01:09:29):
Yeah.
Don't phone call me.
You go phone Call me.
I pick up all the time.
No.
Okay.
But, um, yeah, thank you for thosequestions and I'm really proud of you.
I'm really proud of you, my levaand we're really proud of you.
Okay.
Goodbye.
Are we cringey?
I think it's mandatory.
Comes with a territory.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Bye.
I'm a millennial so I'm allowed to beg.

(01:09:51):
Goodbye.
Bye
drunk.
Thanks for listening to Girl Un Drunk.
You can follow us on Instagram and TikTokat Girl Un Drunk podcast and or send
me an email at [e-mail].
I also have a grocery list ofwhat I want you to buy us for you.

(01:10:12):
Oh, thank you for doing that.
Actually.
Room 1 0 4.
The only
thing I saw on that list, Zoejust flashed her phone to me.
I, the only thing I saw in themiddle of that list was hot dogs,
of course.
Because
you know why?
'cause it's dog sucking season.
Dog sucking.
Mm
mm mm.