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Welcome to the Gladden Longevity Podcast with Dr.
Jeffrey Gladden, where our passion is helping you become an age hacker.
On this show, we want to help you optimize your life energy, longevity, health, and humanperformance with impactful and actionable information by answering four questions.
How good can we be?
How do we make 100 the new 30?
How do we live well beyond 120?
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And how do we live young for a lifetime?
I'm Steve Reiter
Back for another monthly Q &A, which our schedules didn't exactly match up for the lastmonth, maybe even two.
don't remember.
I don't remember the last one that we did, but Dr.
Gladden, is glad to be on a call with you again.
Yeah, yeah, it's good to see you again, Steve.
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Yeah, really great.
summer been?
It's been active.
It's been really good.
It's just, it's kind of been amazing.
You know, I got hurt, um, last August and then had to rebuild my knee with, um, three, uh,regenerative injections that we did here.
Um, and then I got to a point where, um, this spring I was able to start running again andbiking again.
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And now I've been doing, uh, a process to really boost any D levels for myself and energylevels are just off the charts.
So what are you doing for building up the NAD?
Well, it's really a combination of taking several supplements, Nuchido Time, which is areally well-constructed NAD supplement in that it supports NAD uh in the cell through
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several different mechanisms.
It blocks the breakdown of NAD.
It increases the recycling of NAD, both of which go haywire as we age.
We tend to have CD38, which breaks down NAD and is the highest affinity for NAD.
And the NAMPT enzyme that recycles it also gets weaker.
So it addresses both those issues and then supplies some niacin as a precursor um for NAD.
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And that works well.
um But then we couple it with, it also has some apigenin in it to block the CD38.
Then we couple that with the Vitality and um
Vitality has different elements in it.
has some NMN, has some D-ribose.
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It's uh a wafer or a powder.
The Neuchito is actually six capsules.
um We just had a call with them.
They're actually figured out a way to condense it down into three capsules for the samedose.
So that's coming soon.
uh But combining those two is helpful.
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um
But I will say that in using either one, either ah alone or together, I would notice a bitof a boost, ah but not the way we are now, because what we're doing now is we're combining
it with an ozone sauna.
So what we'll do is we'll jump in the ozone sauna.
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We'll have taken the supplements, jump in the ozone sauna.
um And um what the ozone does is that it basically oxidizes NADH.
NAD actually, um
basically is in two forms in your cells, NAD, the oxidized and NADH, the reduced form.
And it goes back and forth between those two.
So when you expose yourself to ozone in a sauna, uh you're actually oxidizing more of theNADH back to NAD.
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And we talk about NAD all the time, but it's really the ratio of NAD to NADH that's socritical.
So when you have the precursors to make NAD and protect
the recycling of NAD and block the degradation of NAD.
And now you're oxidizing NADDH back to NAD to change that ratio in a favorable way.
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Oh my gosh.
You are literally 18 again.
It's like I go out and I hammer these rides on my mountain bike or whatever.
It's just nuts.
And if you really want to...
get serious, you do plasma freezes, which I'm also stacking in about every three weeksnow.
Uh, and then you do that after the plasma freezes and the effects will last.
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Seems like it lasts for, for weeks.
You know, I'm doing the ozone sauna now twice a week.
Um, just in general this way, but, and the effects of what I've talked about with theozone sauna and the supplements, and then taking the supplements daily afterwards, that
effect will last for three, four, five.
six days kind of thing, maybe.
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But with uh coupling with plasma freezes, it's a couple of weeks, two and a half weeks,something like that.
So anyway, the point is that you need NAD not only for energy production, but for cellularrepair.
And so when you're combining all of this energy now uh with anything you want to rebuild,whether it's your knee, your brain, re-lengthening your telomeres, um increasing
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autophagy.
with, you know, with spermidine, has now been shown to be one of the most powerfullongevity supplements you can possibly take.
You know, you really, you really sort of start to turbocharge this whole system.
We can do a lot of great things from a longevity perspective, but if the, if the system isbeing bogged down by low energy and high levels of inflammation, it's very difficult to
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actually, you know.
Get the thing going in the right direction, right?
You're just kind of struggling with low energy production and a lot of inflammation so theplasma freezes, know if you use analytics before the plasma freezes like we do and then
you to kill the senescent cells and then you do the plasma freezes you really Clear outall the inflammation Now you're boosting the energy production So now you've actually put
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yourself back into a very youthful scenario where there's lower levels of inflammationmuch higher levels of energy
The body can do what it's supposed to do in terms of healing, repairing, and you know, thefun of life, right?
Which is doing whatever activity you enjoy most.
So that's fun.
Yeah.
Well, a number of those supplements that you mentioned are available at the GladdenLongevity Shop.
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shop.
That's right.
All of them are in there um because we believe in them.
um We believe in them because we've been using them and seeing how we can make them work.
um
I'd love one of these times for you to bring like in a dish, your daily supplementroutine.
that way, that way listeners could go to YouTube or go to Facebook and see the amount ofsupplements that you take on a daily basis.
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Yeah, it's always in flux, right?
So the idea is, mean, there are some people that are taking 150 pills a day.
That's never been my, you know, there's no, there's no trophies being handled, handed outfor how many supplements you can take.
Right.
I think too many supplements is, it can be bad.
can be, it can be stressful on the body to try to assimilate all that stuff.
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Right.
So I try to do it as elegantly as possible.
And one of the, one of the, and I,
Maybe on the next one, I will kind of go through what I'm doing, but to give people anidea, the way that I go about it is I space it out.
So I get up and I take my thyroid in the morning.
You know, I do my, my meditation, my journaling and things like that.
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do my workout, uh, come to the office and then I'll take, I won't have eaten anything.
Um, I like, I'm now taking spermadine in the morning, uh, because, uh, you know, I'malready fasting, uh, exercise itself.
will induce autophagy.
if it's not weight training, right?
Like cardio will help induce autophagy.
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And then, um, I take the spermadine to kind of boost it even further.
but the thing about spermadine is that actually works on virtually every homework ofaging.
It's not just autophagy.
And so that's really, really exciting.
So you do that.
then I take my AM supplements.
Um, and then I will probably have something, uh,
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to drink in the morning, usually with some powders in it, um some fiber, some protein,things like that.
And then I'll eat lunch.
And when at lunch, I'll take my noon supplements.
ah And I have some things that I take at a meal.
I had my gallbladder taken out over 10 years ago.
So I need to take some digestive things to compensate for that.
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So I do that.
And I also, at that point, I'm taking ah things that actually rebuild the glycocalyx inthe arteries, which is the...
the key for arterial health.
So we have a new way to measure that in the office and a new supplement.
Yeah.
So we like the Glycocalyx Pro that we have a lot.
It comes from an algae and oh builds, rebuilds the Glycocalyx.
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We did a study on it here in the office that demonstrated that.
And we're adding to it now a new supplement called Rovasket, which is uh building theGlycocalyx through a second mechanism.
So they complement each other.
And so I do that at meal time because it's at meal time that you're actually destroyingyour arteries.
um It's not that that's really when we're when we're breaking down the arteries as well.
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We're eating.
So when you're rebuilding the glycocalyx.
In the context of a meal, then you're kind of preserving your arterial function.
um And ah so that works out really well, and then I'll take, um you know, some supplementsat dinner.
Thank
And then I take some before bedtime.
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So I kind of spread it out is what I do.
And even the bedtime supplements, I may take some and go to bed.
And then if I get up to go to the bathroom, which I do once a night, I'll take the rest ofthem.
So I'm never like trying to take, it's not how many pills can I take, right?
So spacing it out like that and combining it with food and stuff like that seems to makeit work pretty well.
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One of the things that I've absolutely taken away from this time that I've spent aroundyou on the podcast is how you will cycle supplements in and out.
So you'll intentionally be spending a little more time on, you know, reduce, not addingtestosterone, but really kind of focusing on
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You know, the longevity and then there are times where you'll be a little more anabolic,if you will, in terms of cranking up that testosterone, doing these kinds of cycles
between, you know, muscle growth and really kind of trying to kick up autophagy to a netto another level.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
think, um you know, economy is a, or the biology is an economy of balance, right?
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So it's really about cycling in and out of these various States.
can't be building all the time or you die sooner.
That's been shown over and over again.
Power athletes die sooner.
Everybody wants to talk about muscle as a currency of longevity.
Well, if that were the case, bodybuilders and power athletes would live longer, but theydie 10 years sooner.
So.
And I don't know if you just saw the data on the carnivore diet, but now that's beendebunked as completely what we've always known.
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Yeah, it's it's yeah, it doesn't make sense.
You're getting all this protein, which is a massive strain on your kidneys and all thismethionine, which basically ages you.
It's really not a healthy diet.
Now, there are some people that benefit from it.
There clearly are there.
And there are people that just don't get along with plants and all that.
And I get that.
know.
God bless everyone.
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Diet is very, very individualized, but to just kind of generally adopt that as, you know,a high saturated fat diet and I mean, higher riskers of colon cancer.
mean, there's just a lot to not be excited about, about me eating meat all the time,right?
So anyway, that's kind of interesting.
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So this month, it is June men's health month.
And we've got the male longevity blueprint.
So from your perspective, what are the most underestimated health risks men face as theyage?
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Not ejaculating often enough.
Ooh, talk about that.
think it's one of the, I won't make a comment.
the, somebody just walked across Steve's desk.
oh Anyway.
m
has become a foster room.
I'm back to fostering cats for a local cat rescue organization.
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And my pregnant mama-to-be just walked by.
Her tail just walked by.
Yeah.
So I think that, um, from the standpoint of prostate health, you know, men are at risk forprostate cancer and the longer we live, the higher the risk is.
And people talk about, if you live long enough, you're going to get prostate cancer.
Um, we hope that that's not the case, but we do see quite a few men, um, that havedeveloped prostate cancer.
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And uh number one, it's important to know what your genetics are around that.
Right.
So in my case, I actually have a gene where excess androgens, uh testosterone and thingscan increase the risk of prostate cancer for me.
There's no history of prostate cancer in my family, but knowing that there are things thatI do that are pretty meticulous around taking care of the prostate.
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So I don't want to stay away from testosterone because I like a lot of the benefits, bonedensity, muscle mass, general.
resilience, robustness, libido comes on board.
So all that's for the good.
And yet I work to protect my prostate by doing things, taking diendelmethane to help memetabolize the testosterone down the safest pathways.
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do things with genistein, which basically is a estrogen agonist.
um I don't want to basically...
knock down estrogen.
think one of the big mistakes that men make is getting on testosterone and trying to blockestrogen production.
Men need estrogen just as much as women need testosterone.
And it's super healthy for your brain and your heart and your blood vessels.
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And it's actually better for your prostate.
But you've got to have the right metabolites coming through these hormonal pathways.
When the hormones go in, your body's going to metabolize them to eventually um break themdown and get rid of them.
It happens with everything.
Um, but you want to make sure they're going down the right pathways and without knowingyour genetics and then measuring how you're actually metabolizing it.
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I think that's a big hidden risk.
So I would really encourage people to get, you know, uh I test that looks at hormonemetabolites.
There are a couple of them out there.
Now the Dutch test, a lot of people have heard about, and now there's a vibrant, hormonezoomer that does a really great job of looking at this also.
And you also want to get blood levels.
So you need blood levels.
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And the problem with most tea clinics is they're getting blood levels, but that's allthey're testing.
They have no idea what the metabolites are doing, which means you don't have really anyidea how much risk you're putting your prostate at.
And since people don't know their genetics, they don't really know if it's a risk to themin the first place or not.
So you can see you're kind of playing with fire when you want to be not playing with fire.
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You want to be doing good things.
So all that's super important, but
Uh, it's been shown that men that have over 20 ejaculations a month have a significantlylower incidence of prostate cancer.
And so it's really, really important.
I think a lot of men, as they go through life, they get in relationships, um, or they'renot in relationships and relationships can, you know, the flame can sort of die or
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whatever it is, you know, and a lot of people end up in, um, lower sex.
activity relationships or situations than they would like to be.
But they kind of acquiesce to it.
And I think it actually represents a big health risk for men.
It's not only mental health, because I think men feel better when we're able to besexually active.
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It's a beautiful thing.
It's not a physical act.
It's really a psycho spiritual connection with it with an individual.
Right.
And so having that really sweet connection that's very nurturing and
loving and giving and receiving and, you know, all the above is incredibly salutary forus.
Right.
And it really releases a lot of oxytocin and oxytocin is a molecule that has a massivenumber of longevity benefits also.
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So we're built for emotional closeness and sexual activity.
And then ejaculations are incredibly helpful for protecting the prostate.
So I think.
A lot of men, even men that are interested in longevity, have kind of acquiesced to thefact that they're just not going to have as much sexual activity as they did when they
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were 18.
And yet they should be.
um They actually should be one way or another, right?
They should be having activity.
So I think that's that's really, really important to understand.
And then when you think about that, well, what is it?
What does it take?
Well, you need to have libido, right?
So having some DHEA on board, having testosterone on board, those are things that pushlibido, dihydrotestosterone.
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You need some of that, but not too much because that bothers your prostate also.
um Can enlarge it, can increase the risk of prostate cancer.
So again, you've got to get everything just right.
But when you do that, um you know, and your libido comes up,
then you find yourself in a position, but then you've got to have vascular function tosupport that.
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So this is where the glycocalyx is so important.
The real root cause of cardiovascular disease is the destruction of the glycocalyx.
And if you're not familiar with what it is, it's kind of like the fuzz that grows on thebottom of a river.
So if you imagine your artery like a pipe um and the outside of the pipe is fairly tough,that's the edge.
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Advantitia, that's the fibrous tissue that kind of holds it together, if you will.
It's like if you were to run over your hose with a lawnmower and it had a tough outercoating, you wouldn't really cut it.
So that's the piece.
And then inside that is a muscle uh layer which can either constrict to narrow the arteryor or relax to expand the artery.
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Right.
And if you're having sexual function or sexual activity, uh you need to actually have thatrelax.
the muscle relaxed to allow blood flow to go into the genital area and same for women.
And so if the um glycocalyx, which is this fuzz now that grows on the inner lining of the,of the hose, right?
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It's kind of is a, think of it as a sensory organ for blood flow.
So as blood flows by the, the glycocalyx is kind of waving in that breeze of that waterflowing by, it signals the artery that, Hey,
blood flow is increasing, we need to increase nitric oxide production.
So it signals the lining of the artery, the skin that lines the artery, the endothelium toproduce nitric oxide.
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So having a healthy glycocalyx is critical, but then having the ability to back it up withthe ability to make nitric oxide.
So you have the healthy glycocalyx with the glycocalyx pro and the Rivasca.
Those two supplements together are
magical because they're working at the problem from two different angles and they reallywork amazingly well.
um And then you've got to make nitric oxide.
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The way you make nitric oxide is not by eating steak.
You actually get dietary nitrate out of plants.
So spinach, arugula, know, kale, beets and things like this.
And if you're sensitive to oxalate, some of those plants are high in oxalates like kale.
So maybe you want to use more arugula.
So you, you, can figure these things out, but the point is getting some plant stuff in issuper important.
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Then not using mouth washes is super important because when you eat those plants and youget that dietary nitrate and it recycles through your saliva into your mouth.
And if you're using mouth washes that are killing the bacteria, you don't have the rightbacteria in there to actually take that dietary nitrate and turn it into nitrate, which
you then swallow and use that to actually make nitric oxide.
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So.
cut out the mouth washes for sure.
And some xylitol toothpaste will actually improve the oral flora or there's actually oralprobiotics out there now.
have one in our shop also that can improve this.
And then, so now you basically have filled the tank with dietary nitrate.
You've got a healthy glycocalyx.
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Well, if you use a product like oh N101, which then triggers the body to make nitric oxideright now,
Now you're really good.
And if you still want to go even further, um can take Viagra or you can take Cialis on topof that.
And that now becomes a killer app.
And if you really want to crush it, then you use some Melanotan-2, right?
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Or some PT-141, peptide that will actually improve not only libido, but sexual function.
And if you stack that in together, that's, you know, you'll live on a different planet.
So it's pretty amazing.
Now you can't use the peptides.
um
all that often, like maybe every two weeks or every two and a half weeks, because youdevelop a tolerance to them fairly quickly.
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But in general, using the supplements alone with or without a PDF5 inhibitor like Cialisor Viagra can work great.
And then if you want to add to that, you can.
And if it's like we're going to go have a special weekend, then here we go.
Right.
So can be really quite lovely.
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So
You know, that's, but I think, I think for men to give up on their sexual health or theirsex life feeling like, well, it's just not possible for me because my partner's not
willing.
Right.
I think, I think that's really a tragedy.
And I think that um you're really sacrificing your health at that point, reallysacrificing your health, prostate cancer risk, emotional.
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uh satisfaction, know, co-creating with another person, the oxytocin hits that come fromthat.
um So anyway, I think, I think that's often overlooked.
um You know, we want to talk about blood pressure and cardiovascular and testosteroneitself and bone density and muscle mass and all that.
That's all lovely.
But at the end of the day, um all that comes along for the ride if you're really sexuallyactive.
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So, yeah.
you were describing that smooth muscle in our arteries and capillaries, et cetera, thatexpands and contracts, what factor, I mean, there are lots of health benefits for sauna,
detoxification, et cetera, but do saunas and cold plunges help to exercise thosecapillaries and blood vessels, et cetera?
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Is there a health benefit in that?
Well, it's a good question.
You know, when they did the sauna data in, I think it was Finland, and got published,think in 2015, you know, they looked at a little over 3000 men for 20 years between the
ages of 40 and 60.
And they found that the men that did four or more saunas a week at a temperature of 180degrees or above for 20 minutes was actually 19 minutes for a of 20.
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that they had a significant reduction in uh cardiovascular events, like a 50 % reduction.
They had an even greater reduction in dementia, 60%, right?
And then they had a 40 % reduction in all-cause mortality and cancer was in there as well,right?
So yes, um doing saunas seems to have a massive cardiovascular benefit.
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And so there's, know, if you wanna stack that into that uh layer, I think that's reallywonderful.
Um, does increase blood flow.
does help with detox.
and, um, you know, the heat shock proteins are incredibly helpful for longevity ingeneral, because they're helping you to chaperone the proper folding of proteins, which
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goes awry as we, as we age, but the increased blood flow, um, is super helpful.
You know, there've been studies done with infrared saunas in Japan that have shown thatpeople with angina, right, chest pain related to block coronary arteries.
uh, arteries in the heart will improve their angina scores, their walk scores.
Even people with congestive heart failure can walk further and have less shortness ofbreath.
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And people that have blockages in their legs, um, can actually walk further, using sauna.
And we also have access to a product now out of Australia called Kavadex, which we'reputting into a study here that, um,
is cyclodextrin that has the ability to actually pull cholesterol out of plaque.
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That's the exciting news.
The less exciting news is you take it as an enema and you do it every day um for 60 or 90days and kind of see what kind of impact you've had.
But ah for somebody that's struggling with blocked arteries, um when you start to stackall these things together, right now, you're really creating a great environment for
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vascular health.
um
Yeah.
This month is also National Safety Month.
How everyday habits could be shortening your health span.
So what are some surprising lifestyle habits that may be aging us faster without usrealizing it?
I don't know, you know, when I went to school, maybe this was true for you, but when I wasa school in elementary school, we had safeties.
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Do you remember that?
And they would wear these straps across the front and a belt.
I don't know if you had that.
The safeties were there to get all the kids to line up properly and be quiet before wewent into school.
Anyway, when you said safety national safety month, I flashed on those guys are finallygetting recognition.
I have to tell you, I never wanted to be a safety.
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I was, I was always the kid that.
I wasn't, I wasn't a troublemaker, but it's like, I don't want to be that person.
Right.
So, um, anyway, that's interesting, but national safety month.
think, you know, what's interesting, um, is that we hurt ourselves a lot.
Um, you know, obvious things like seat belts and all that sort of stuff.
I think one of the best ways to stay safe, however, apart from avoiding, uh, stupidthings, right.
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Like watch this and then, you know,
I'm going to do a gainer off a boat or something, smash my head on the side of the boat orsomething crazy.
So I think, um, I think you want to use judgment in those things, but I really think thatthe biggest thing that we can do to stay safe, and this is physically safe, there's psycho
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spiritual emotional things there as well, of course, but to stay physically safe um is to,um, is to train our nervous systems.
Um, and I think that that's missing.
Most of the time, I really kind of have changed my whole outlook on working out that italmost has nothing to do with the muscles anymore.
It almost has nothing to do with the cardiovascular system.
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It really has to do with training my nervous system.
And when I'm like yesterday, I did a VASPER, and, you know, you're seated in a new stepand you have the, the cuffs on your legs and your arms, and you're kind of going back and
forth.
We have a tendency when we're working out to focus on the muscle, how the muscle feels,how hard the muscle's working.
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And I've actually switched my focus from that into the fluidity of the motion and mynervous system and how it's working.
m Is my stride all the way back with my arm and all the way forward?
Is there a complete stroke there running the same way?
Is there a complete stride?
And then what's the rhythm of that stride and what's the pace of that stride.
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And that's all controlled by the nervous system.
And so I find myself moving my focus from what the muscle is doing or what's happeningwith the muscle into my nervous system and simply focusing on that.
And I've also tapped into, I don't know if you're familiar with zero point energy.
Is that ring a bell for you?
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Yeah.
So, you know, when the quantum field, um, and you're discovering so many interestingthings with the.
quantum computing chips, Mahorana chip and the Willow chip and the JWST.
mean everything you ever thought you knew about physics or astronomy, it's like thinkagain.
but anyway in the quantum field, um basically particles are coming into and out ofexistence.
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Light is basically coming into existence and going out of existence.
So the idea in the old creation story that from nothing things were created, this is beingshown to be in physics now from nothing.
literally from nothing, just from the quantum wave fields, particles are coming intoexistence and going back out.
And that occurs even at absolute zero, when every other motion in a macroscopic space hasbasically stopped, right?
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That's the definition of absolute zero.
But there's still this energy going on at the quantum level of these particles coming inand out of existence.
So that's called zero point energy.
And there's a
Substance called nairite that's been developed.
It's here on the planet.
It's not the alien technology or anything.
It's actually here in I write and it can actually capture and harness zero point energy.
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So this would be free energy for, you know, the entire planet.
And there's a lot of work being done in that area.
But the point is that I kind of work with this thought process, this mental construct thatI have access to zero point energy.
And so when I'm on the VASper, when I'm running, when I'm on the mountain bike, when I'mon the elliptical, whatever I'm doing, lifting a weight, I tap into zero point energy and
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I feel it sort of coming up through the bottom of my spine.
It's a little Kundalini type, you know, coming up through the chakras and out the top ofmy head.
And I, that's my energy supply.
So my focus is completely away from the muscle.
It's just like I'm pulling in zero point energy from the quantum field.
And I'm only focused on what my nervous system is doing.
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You could try this on a hike.
You know, I know you like to hike.
Just don't focus on the muscles at all.
Just focus on your nervous system, the rhythm of your stride, the length of your stride,the smoothness of the nervous system.
And what I find is that I go faster with less effort.
I generate more power with less effort than if I'm focused on the muscle.
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So when I'm trying like we think to exercise is somehow to try.
And I actually think that exercise when it's well done is not trying.
It's actually doing.
And it's actually kind of being in that flow.
You know, it's analogous to if you've ever hit a baseball or or a great tennis shot or agreat golf shot or kick a soccer ball and it felt great or through, you know, the perfect
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football pass or whatever your game is right when you do that.
A golf ball, for that matter, right.
It feels effortless, right?
If you hit, if you hit a perfect, I don't know if you play any of those sports, but ifyou, if you do that stroke and you hit the ball perfectly, it feels effortless.
And that's because in that moment, your entire nervous system was just completely dialedin.
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And, and it was just, it was effortless.
You weren't trying hard.
You hit the ball a long way, but it wasn't because you were trying.
It was because your nervous system was dialed in.
And I think we can sort of take that, um, that analogy and use it because I think.
that when you focus on your nervous system like this, and then you actually challenge thenervous system with balance challenges, whether it's balance boards or standing on one leg
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or slack lines or whatever else, you know, doing figure eights with your eyes open andyour eyes closed, frontwards and backwards, you're challenging your nervous system.
This is how you actually make yourself really safe, because when you do get knocked offyour skis or your snowboard, you know how to tumble.
You don't break your collarbone.
You don't get beat up because your nervous system is already adapted to what's coming.
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And so I think this is really the ultimate hack on how to stay safe.
So yeah.
Well, I'm going have to start to focus on this because this weekend, a lifelong buddy ofmine has been like a brother.
He is wife and daughter are coming out.
We're going to be tackling the Manitou Incline.
And for those listeners that don't know the Manitou Incline, it's a it's it's a heightlittle hiking trail, only one mile in Manitou Springs, Colorado, that basically goes
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straight up a mountain.
Right.
How many verticals?
with a 2000 foot elevation gain.
So it's a butt kicker.
But, but it's, it's, it's an incredible, it's, it's amazing.
Every time I've ever completed it, it's just, wow, I really did something big.
And, and, and, and, and, and by the time I'm back down, I take bar trail back down becauseit's much safer than heading all the way down.
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In fact, they recommend that they tell people not to go down, even though some people do.
My movement circle on my Apple Watch is completely full.
So I've gotten all my movement done that I need for the day in just that one little hike.
Yeah, maybe for the week, who knows?
So, no, that's really interesting.
So when you get on that hike, uh I want you to focus on only focusing on your nervoussystem and pulling zero point energy up through your spine, out the top of your head and
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only focus on the fluidity of your stride, right?
And that you're, you know, the kick out the back is as far as it needs to be and...
The arm swing is what it needs to be and the whole thing.
And if you just focus on that, I'll be really curious to hear your report back.
In fact, give me a call or a text this weekend and let me know how that went.
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Cool.
definitely do that.
World Blood Donor Day was June 14th.
ah There's a theory that blood donation may help reduce excess iron or inflammation.
What's your take?
Absolutely.
Donating blood is super healthy.
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Donating plasma is super healthy.
So, you know, we talk about doing plasma for Isis here where we pull the blood out, wespin it to get the cells to settle down.
on the top will be the liquid portion of the blood called the plasma, where all theproteins are.
And a lot of the inflammatory proteins are in the plasma.
So we throw the plasma away and we can we can actually, depending on a person's size.
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But in my case, we take three liters of that plasma and throw it away.
Right.
Ow.
Pretty good volume, right.
And we swap it with saline and albumin, which is albumin being the primary protein in theblood so that the oncotic pressure remains the same and the cells don't swell and all that
kind of thing.
But you go back and you do that and it's a great way to get rid of um those inflammatorymarkers.
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Well, if you donate plasma, you can donate 200 CCs of plasma, right?
So that's...
200 CCs, one liter is a thousand CCs.
So that's a fifth of a liter.
So that would be a 15th of what I'm able to do in a plasma or freezes machine.
And yet you can donate plasma twice a week.
So, and they pay you to do it, right?
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You have to pay us to do the plasma freezes, but they'll pay you to do the plasmadonation.
So um I think it's like 80 bucks or 70 bucks or whatever they pay you.
So, um
You can donate plasma twice a week and you actually start to get ahead of the curve.
It takes more time, but you start to get ahead of the curve on inflammation.
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And if you're taking some senolytics and then you donate, right, you can start to getahead.
And maybe you can't go twice a week.
Maybe you don't have time for that.
So you can go once a week or you can only go once every two weeks.
Whatever you can do, it's helpful.
And donating whole blood is also helpful.
You're getting rid of old cells, red cells.
white cells, some plasma, it's going to be um about 40 % cells and about 60 % plasma.
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In Colorado, maybe more like 42 or 45 % cells because you got more red cells up there.
um And then you throw that away and now your body has to use iron stores, has to remakenew blood cells.
know, the body likes to be challenged with these things about rejuvenating itself.
It keeps the body young to do that.
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You you can't lop off a pound of muscle and have your leg regrow it, but you can throwaway a unit of blood or donate it and initiate your body's rejuvenation cycle.
So yes, donating blood is super healthy um and then donating plasma is super healthy aswell.
So either of those would be great.
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Yeah.
Finally, PTSD and Mental Health Awareness Month.
How does unresolved trauma, including PTSD, influence long-term health outcomes?
Man, it has a massive impact, right?
Massive impact.
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I mean, if you're suffering from PTSD, which really manifests itself with anxiety,depression, low energy, fear, high sympathetic nervous system tone, right?
Which you can measure on your Apple watch or a ring or a whip or garment or whatever isheart rate variability.
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Heart rate variability shrinks.
The way that I explain it to people is that heart rate variability is the distance betweentwo beats heart beats Time time lapses another beat occurs time lapses another beat occurs
So there's a distance or a time between those beats and when you're very relaxed in ZenEverything gets kind of sloppy like the beat is now and then it waits a while beats again
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I will beat now will be a little man will beat now, you know, so there's a littlesloppiness to it and that's actually good.
It's a
High heart rate variability implies that you're relaxed and your parasympathetic nervoussystem's in charge.
But when you're under stress, by gosh, everybody's marching, right?
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
So there's very little variability.
uh And that's bad because that means your system is carrying a lot of stress.
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So with PTSD, people tend to carry a lot of hidden stress.
They've normalized it because they feel
They feel like they always feel.
It's like, no, I feel normal.
All right.
I know I have some PTSD, but you know, it's today.
It's not bad.
Right.
So it's like, I feel pretty normal, but if we measure them and test them, and we have away to do that here in the office with a neuro check, we can hook them up to a couple of
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clips on their wrists.
And in about six minutes, five to six minutes, we can actually get a whole detailedanalysis of their, of their nervous system that way.
Um, and with that, uh, we see that people that have really.
been under significant stress for one reason or another, are carrying that stress in theirsystems.
And we know that stress ages people, right?
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If you look at most of the presidents, uh they aged a lot in four years, right?
uh So stress ages us a lot.
So when you're carrying all that stress, whether you recognize it or not, you're aging.
So being able to clear that stress up is super important.
And that's where actually treating PTSD becomes very important.
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You know, I think it's, really trauma that gets imprinted into the nervous system thatcauses PTSD.
And then we end up living in reaction to whatever it was, whether we were, you know, inthe military or whether there was a, you know, some sort of emotional violence or, um,
know, bullying or physical violence or, you know, whatever happens, we were traumatized byit on some level and it gets imprinted into the nervous system.
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And so.
The way to, to sort that out is to number one, do some, deep therapeutic work where youreally, really dissect it, really start to understand what happened, you know, what your
role was, what other people's roles were, you know, and then actually understand how itdid impact you.
And so you really recognize, okay, this is really impacting me.
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Then from there, you actually have start to be able to actually forgive the peopleinvolved, even start to make some reparations if that's required, but you start to.
be able to heal it.
But my feeling is that with PTSD, it was basically imprinted by an experience and it canonly, that software can only be overwritten by another experience.
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And it's great to do the cognitive work, to understand it and do all those things, butit's not enough to solve it.
And that's where things like,
You know the military a lot of military people are now using things like Ibogaine and 5Meo DMT and Texas just passed a law here using allowing Ibogaine to be used for veterans
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here and you know Texas is a little more conservative state than say Colorado orCalifornia, but nonetheless There's wisdom in these decisions.
And so you the use of psychedelics um You know psilocybin LSD 5 Meo uh MDMA ayahuasca
Ibogaine, these different medicines and they all have particular roles for particularpeople at particular times in their journey.
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But the point is they have the ability to allow you to have a different experience.
And in that different experience of experiencing love and joy and connection and purposehas the ability to actually go in and rewrite the software.
And I think that's really exciting.
yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a real, it's a real thing.
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And it happens for so many people that wouldn't say, don't have, I don't have PTSD, but inactual fact, they do.
Um, you know, I've had PTSD from things I've gone through and I didn't, I didn't, I didn'trecognize it as that.
I just thought it was a rough time, but you carry that with you, right.
And then being able to go in and heal that becomes super important.
So when you free yourself from that, now you're kind of liberated yourself.
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You're unencumbered.
Now, your nervous system can calm back down.
You not only can do that, but now you're motivated to actually do things that are actuallyhealthy and engage with life again, right?
Have more, you know, more oxytocin flow or whatever it is, or less alcohol or lessnicotine or whatever other thing you're doing.
So, yeah.
So anyway, that's how I see it.
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I would also think though for listeners that aren't interested in psychedelics or they'renot able to travel to a state or a country where you are able to do it.
I would assume tools like neuro emotional technique, which Dr.
Howard Cohn, a past guest has, has talked about could definitely be a benefit.
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I know when I visited Howard at his clinic at his chiropractic office in SouthernCalifornia,
I felt like I was on top of the world after the work that I had done.
And then he introduced me to somebody here locally that I had also worked with.
those kinds of things, energy work is something else that I've that I've done that I foundsome definite benefit benefit from.
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What about brain frequency over at Gladden Longevity in
Brain frequency works great.
This is basically transcranial magnetic stimulation that can go in and actually helpreprogram and re, um, reenergize the brain, particularly when it's done in conjunction
with hydrogen and certain peptides increase brain drive neurotrophic factors.
So new connections can grow in the brain.
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And you do it in conjunction with some cognitive therapy.
Uh, we have not combined it with psychedelics.
Um, it's not legal for us to do it here in the office.
Uh, we.
We know people that can do it in a legal setting, but we haven't combined the two here.
That's something for us to think about.
You gotta bring the equipment out here to Colorado on one of your trips so we can do somestudies on this.
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Come on, come on.
studies.
Yeah, what are we talking about?
mean, of course.
um So ah anyway, very interesting.
Tell the audience a little bit more about your experience when you went to California withyour ah Muscle reprogramming or whatever it was.
yeah, neuro emotional technique.
So if listeners go back into the into the podcast archives and search for Dr.
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Howard Cohn, C-O-H-N there, there he talks a lot about the history of neuro emotionaltechnique.
And basically it's muscle testing in terms of identifying whether it's somethingphysiologically that's going on or whether it's something emotionally going on and
starting to work through some of those
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triggers and releasing and I'm tired when I first did it at Dr.
Howard cones clinic in I think it's it's in Irvine maybe it's just outside of John Wayneit's not that far away from and I know it's an Orange County Southern California.
He and I went out for a meal and some cigars afterwards and I felt like I was likesomething had just lifted I felt.
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free, felt just a levity that that just just a level was unlocked.
And I felt that way for literally a couple days afterwards.
And and and I felt those kinds of things even when working with the NET practitioner herein Colorado Springs.
It's it's something that you know, just I just felt like just little unlocks that didn'tnecessarily I don't
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That's right.
It wasn't like sitting in a therapist office after the death of my wife where I'm goingthrough grief counseling and all this.
was just something super quick.
20 minutes and boom, I'm out.
And whoa, the world just seems a little brighter and I feel lighter and.
I love that.
know, there's this this also it's important for the audience to understand that thesetraumas, while they're held in a nervous system, they're also held in the body.
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And so working with someone that's skilled either like Mukti's been working with a guy inCalifornia.
Yeah, somatic work that's apparently a very I've not yet met him or had an opportunity towork with him, but he's apparently incredibly gifted at m
being able to detect where people are holding things in their body, whether it's in theirhip or their neck or their back or their shoulder or wherever it might be.
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And then basically working with sort of different techniques and myofascial things andcupping and things like that to help kind of release uh some of the trauma.
So if you really want to become your unencumbered self, it's a combination of not justsort of...
uh
talk slash insightful therapy, not just even psychedelic reprogramming.
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There's also kind of the re alignment, if you will, of the physicality, you know, the bonestructures, the alignment there, the fascial planes and things like that to actually
really get this to be a complete healing process.
It really is a complete healing process that you have to go through, but it's so worth itbecause when you get to the other side,
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And you feel unencumbered and you feel like, my gosh, yeah, it's great.
It's great to be alive.
It's great to be Jeff, right?
And it's great to be Steve.
It's like, yeah, let's, let's go do something cool.
So, you know, it's a really a beautiful place to live.
And I think, you know, I think that's what I want for every man that's listening to thisis to become their unencumbered selves and be able to really step into the fullness of,
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of, know, you could call it the divine masculine.
You could call it, call it the full expression of who they are as a man on the planet.
um
That would be the goal for me.
Jeffrey Gladden, thanks for letting me jump on again for another monthly Q &A.
Yeah.
I loved it.
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Nice to have the conversation.
Be sure to go to gladden longevity.com.
Learn more about what Dr.
Gladden does at the gladden longevity clinic there in the Dallas area and ah be sure to goto gladden longevity shop.com for a whole bunch of those supplements that we had talked
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about.
And Dr.
Gladden, I'll be sure to text you after I tap it front with pictures from the top of themanatee incline this weekend.
can't wait.
I can't wait.
I hope you have a great hike.
All right.
Thanks, Steve.