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November 4, 2024 17 mins

Betcha didn't learn much about supplements in health coach school...yet the topic comes up all the time! In this series we'll explore common supplement types with Dr. Viegas from Fullscript. Probiotics are up first! We discuss quality, side effects, third party testing and more so you can choose the right product for you, and help your clients as well! To get your free Fullscript account, access 350+ quality brands at 35% off and earn passive income, go to: https://HealthCoachPower.com/fullscriptinfo

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(00:02):
Hello there, health coaches. Welcometo our supplements expert series.
I've put this together for allof us because let's be honest,
we did not learn much aboutsupplements in health coaching school.
That's just a fact,
and yet it comes up all thetime and you're probably taking your own supplements
too.
So today we're going tofocus on probiotics and Dr. Viegas from Fullscript is

(00:25):
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(00:47):
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That stands for Practice Better. Dr.Viegas, thank you so much for being here.
Can you tell us a littlebit about yourself?
Well, thanks for having me, Michelle.Sure. So I'm Dr. Eric Viegas.

(01:09):
I'm a naturopathicdoctor in Ottawa, Canada.
I currently work at Fullscriptas a medical product manager,
very much versed in supplementquality and teaching
providers how to spot high qualitysupplements and perhaps lower quality
supplements. Prior tomy work at fullscript,
I actually worked for some of thelarger supplement companies in Canada in

(01:33):
their education department.
Alright, thanks for givingus a little rundown there.
You guys have heard us say theword fullscript a few times,
so I just want to let you knowif you're not aware already.
Fullscript is a platformfor practitioners,
including health coaches where you canearn passive income and save up to 35%
on over 350 brands ofsupplements and it's free to use.

(01:56):
So go get more info about that at
healthcoachpower.com/fullscript.
Info for today we're goingto be focusing on probiotics,
which I know a lot of clients areasking our coaches about all the time,
yet again,
we're not generally trained in this areaand it's a kind of complicated thing.
So can you start us off withjust the top lining for us?

(02:20):
What are probiotics? How dothey benefit overall health?
Sure, yeah, great place to start.
So probiotics are live microorganismsand they're often referred to as good
bacteria. They can helpmaintain healthy gut flora.
So probiotics can be derivedfrom plants, human cells,
animals, spores, the list goes on and on,

(02:42):
and probiotics support digestion andgut health and also the immune system,
which is mainly located in the gut.
There are many probioticssupplements on the market,
but not all are created equal and wecould spend probably a lot of time
talking about variousdifferent species and strains.
But I would recommend for thehealth coaches listening today,

(03:02):
check out a great resource. Ihave no affiliation to them.
They're called AE Probio.
So they're a helpful resource that canhelp start your journey into probiotics
by bolstering basic understanding ofwhat probiotics are and also providing,
which I feel is very helpful,
a breakdown of researchon various products on the market and their indications.

(03:23):
Well, that's a great resource.Thanks for sharing that.
We'll get that link in the show notesif we're out there either with a
rudimentary understanding of probioticsor if we do a deep dive into that
resource.
I know with all supplements it's a littlebit confusing though because you're
looking at all these brands,it's kind of like choosing wine.
You end up choosing based onthe label, how much you like,

(03:44):
how pretty the label is, and that'sprobably not the right way to go about it.
What should we be lookingfor in terms of quality?
Great question.
So I would say look for a product withwell-researched species like specific
strains of lactobacillus acidophilusor bifidobacterium lactus,
and of course ensure that it hasenough colony forming units or CFUs,

(04:07):
which are the gold standard for measuringthe potency of probiotic products.
And they're typically in thebillions of CFUs to be effective,
I would consider clinical evidencesupporting the specific strains for the
health goals of your clients.
So numerous studies supportprobiotics benefits for gut health,
including reducing symptoms of irritablebowel syndrome known as IBS and

(04:28):
supporting the immunesystem. Additionally,
some studies also show potentialbenefits for mental health,
such as reducing symptom severity andconditions like anxiety and depression.
That thing about CFUs is importantbecause I've noticed sometimes with lower
cost probiotics you look and thenumber of CFUs in there is way, way,
way smaller than another product atmight be at a higher price point,

(04:51):
but you're actually getting farmore. Would you say that's a typical
thing that you might find among brands?
Oh, definitely, yeah. Very importantto look again at CFUs and the billions,
because to your point,
a lower quality probiotic product mightcontain only millions or very small
amount,
and that's really just a drop in theocean if you consider the trillions of

(05:13):
organisms that are colonizing our gut.
Ah, okay, good. So we're goingto look at those numbers.
What about third party testing? Iknow that's a thing with fish oil.
Is that a thing with probiotics?
Yes, it is.
Third party testing actually applies tomany different categories of supplements
and essentially third party testingensures that what's on the label is in the

(05:34):
bottle.
So third party testing ensures theproduct contains the strains listed on the
label in the correct CFU amounts andthat it's free from contaminants.
And so contaminants here could bethings like pesticides, heavy metals,
certain drugs or allergens.
So this essentially helps guarantee thesafety and effectiveness of the product.
And the label should list the thirdparty certification seal along again with

(05:58):
those specific strains and their CFUcount at the time of manufacturer.
And I would say in addition to thirdparty certification seals, always,
always check for an expiration dateon the product and also ensure that
products are stored correctly fromwherever you buy your supplements.
Great. I was going to ask you, how dowe know if it's third party tested?

(06:19):
There is usually some type of labelor seal or something like that.
And then I imagine if we arebuying through fullscript,
that's listed right therein the product description?
That's correct. It will belisted there, and again,
it'll be directly on that label.
So there are third party certificationsthat are more at the brand level.
So you'll see certainbrands on their websites,

(06:39):
they'll say third partycertified for CGMP,
and then they'll provide thosedetails. But for third party testing,
you want to make sure that that specificseal is directly on that product label.
Great tip. All right.
So for I know health coaches arebuying probiotics for themselves,
I know I buy them for mykids. We're probably talking to our clients about them.

(07:00):
Heck,
we probably just have friends and familymembers asking us these questions all
the time. They assume we knowand we don't necessarily know.
So it's good to at least havethis background of knowledge.
What about interactions?
If people are taking certain medicationsor they're doing other supplements,
do we have to worry about thekind of probiotics we're taking?
Yeah, another great question. Soprobiotics are generally considered safe,

(07:23):
but to your point,
they may interact with certain medicationslike antibiotics by reducing their
effectiveness, but at the same time,
probiotics can also help replenishbeneficial bacteria after antibiotic use.
So timing is important fordosage considerations here.
Clients should aim to take supplementsa few hours away from antibiotics to

(07:44):
ensure optimal effects of boththe medication and the supplement.
When it comes to supplement interactions,
you'll actually start to see there's alot more products on the market now that
contain additional antioxidants or otheringredients that might actually help to
bolster the effect ofthe probiotic organisms.
Oh, that's interesting.I didn't know that,

(08:04):
but I did know about alternatingantibiotics with probiotics.
So I know our pediatrician always tellsme if it's a twice a day thing for the
kids.
In between those doses is when you wantto give a probiotic to protect what's
getting ravaged in theirgut with antibiotic use?
Yeah, correct. I mean, asthe name implies antibiotics,

(08:26):
they'll kill off bacteria,
and oftentimes that means thatsort of more pathogenic like
fungi, yeast can maybe start to take over.
So supplementing with a probiotic notonly helps to replenish the bacteria that
are there,
but could also help toprevent the colonization of those pathogenic organisms.
I have a question.

(08:46):
I think about this a lot when I'm buyingbecause we tend to find a brand and
then we like the brand even when it comesto makeup or clothing or anything and
then we buy it again. Butwhen it comes to probiotics,
is it cool to stick with the same brandthat we know and we love or I feel like
it's the kind of thingyou want to be rotating?
That's a good question. I think itwould come down to the specific case.

(09:08):
The case. So again,
if that specific product is involvedin a clinical trial for kind
of what the indication is, thenI would recommend following that.
But if it's more forgeneral use, then yeah,
for sure people can kind of rotate throughdifferent probiotics just to ensure
that they're getting avariety of different strains.

(09:29):
I mean one day, and there probably issome service out there, I don't know,
that tells us exactly what microbiotawe have floating around inside our guts.
But until we can monitorthat in real time,
it just helps to make surewe're getting a variety.
And don't forget those probioticfermented foods everybody,
but especially for clients whoare not going to eat sauerkraut.

(09:50):
That's just a little side note there.
Love my kimchi. I just haveto add that in. I love.
Eating kimchi. Exactlyright. We can do both.
My wife doesn't appreciate the smellwhen I open the container in the house,
but I love my kimchi.
She will grow to loveit. That's my prediction.
We do a lot of fermentingaround here. Awesome.

(10:11):
We always like to do stuff with foodfirst when we can, but I mean honestly,
most of our clients are going to puttheir nose straight up in the air when it
comes to kimchi or anythinglike that, unless they're very,
very special and rare. So we have,
or probiotics, let's say Ihave mine in the refrigerator.
I wanted to ask you just explaina little bit about storing them,

(10:35):
especially if you travel. Isit okay to take a few of 'em,
throw 'em in a container? Arethey going to last for three days?
That's a great question.Generally probiotics,
whether they're shelfstable or refrigerated are manufactured with overages.
So they'll contain over a hundred percentof the listed CFU just to ensure that
by the time they expire, theycontain about a hundred percent.

(10:58):
But it's important to notehere that some probiotics,
again need refrigerationwhile others are shelf stable,
which means that to your point, youcan throw them into your luggage,
you can travel with them and not worryabout having to refrigerate them.
So it's important to follow the storageinstructions on the label to ensure that
the live bacteria remainactive and effective.
And it's also important that properstorage and handling is followed by the

(11:22):
online platforms or brick and mortarstores where you buy your probiotics.
So just to note here, Ido work for fullscript.
I just wanted to highlight that Fullscripttakes a lot of time to ensure current
good manufacturing practicecompliance when they receive handle
store and ship products. So for example,
refrigerated probiotics are alwaysshipped with cold packs to help protect

(11:44):
against heat and humidity.
Right? So you could go, I'm notsaying that anyone's doing this,
but you could potentially go to a store,
you could spend $40 on a bottle ofprobiotics and everything inside could be
dead if it's been sitting in ahot warehouse for the last year.
Absolutely. Yeah. And that'sdefinitely a concern, right?
So it's important that you vetthose sort of storage standards

(12:08):
from the companies thatyou're buying products from.
Alright, awesome.
So I'm sure anyone listening who's notcurrently taking probiotics is now like
maybe I should be taking a probioticand I know when we start anything,
you have to be careful and go slow.
What does somebody need to know aboutstarting out with a probiotic supplement?
Are there any side effectsthat we should be aware of?

(12:28):
Yeah, another great question, Michelle.So most people tolerate probiotics well,
but with most supplements,
some people actually experience mildside effects like gas or bloating.
So these symptoms they usually resolveafter the body adjusts to prebiotic fiber
that might be present in the product,
and as friendly strains help to dealwith pathogenic ones while temporarily

(12:50):
colonizing the gut.
In most studies you'll seeprobably around six to eight weeks
an alleviation of those symptoms,but if symptoms do persist,
clients should definitely consulttheir healthcare provider.
So if you start taking it, you mightbe a little bit gassy for up to,
you said six to eight weeks, but if itcontinues, exactly, we got to look into.

(13:13):
That. Yeah, in addition to thatthere, oh, sorry, go ahead.
I was going to say,
and of course we always want our clientsconsulting with their doctors anyway
when they're going on these things,
but it's for ourselves and just in generalthink that's really helpful to know
that there might be an adjustment period.
Absolutely. And to add to that,
some clients might also experiencechanges in bowel habits,
and that's typically what we see withprobiotics. So again, yeah, to your point,

(13:37):
if it lingers longer thanit should definitely consult your healthcare provider.
Awesome. Now,
I know all of our health coaches areworried about scope of practice and we
can't be telling ourclients to take probiotics,
and no one is suggesting that you do that.
The fact of the matter ispeople are going to this store.
They are going online withoutconsulting you, me or anyone,
and buying stuff and juststarting to take it willy-nilly.

(13:58):
So expect clients to cometo you with things like,
I don't know why my stomach'sacting this way. You might ask,
have you started taking anynew supplements recently?
These might be thingsthey're doing on their own,
and you can just help them sort outthe puzzle pieces as well as of course,
refer them to their doctor. So thankyou so much for helping us today.

(14:20):
Just better understand probiotics andhow to look for them and what to buy and
what to do when we get them.To your point about the cold pack,
I get all of my probiotics for myself andmy kids through fullscript always with
that cold pack.
So you can definitely mail order thesethings and you can get 'em on auto fill
so it just automatically comesto your house every few months.

(14:42):
For all of our listeners,
I want you to go tohealthcoachpower.com/fullscript info
for more information and to set yourfree account. I mean, you might as well.
It's a free account.
Just go check it out and keep listeningbecause in the next episode of this
series,
Dr. Viegas is going to help uschoose a quality multivitamin.

(15:03):
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