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November 11, 2025 47 mins

This week on the show, Joe Fier sits down for a second round with renowned sales expert Ari Galper, creator of the trust-based selling methodology. Their conversation dives deep into the challenges facing today’s sales environment—where automation and AI have made persuasion techniques ubiquitous, but trust remains rare and invaluable. Ari Galpershares how his “doctor-patient” approach to sales builds authentic trust without unnecessary persuasion, chasing, or follow-ups. Discover actionable strategies for cutting through the noise, connecting on a human level, and updating your sales mindset for the rapidly evolving AI era.

Topics Discussed

  • The rise of AI in sales and its impact on buyer skepticism and trust
  • Ari Galper’s pivotal story: realizing the need for a trust-based selling framework
  • Why traditional rapport-building and value-add approaches don’t work pre-sale
  • The “doctor-patient” model: diagnosing problems before prescribing solutions
  • Transforming the sales conversation to prioritize truth, fit, and respect
  • Specific trust-building techniques for first sales calls
  • Ditching outdated sales scripts, rapport formulas, and the concept of “follow-ups”
  • The role of trust in the age of AI: why human connection is becoming more valuable as automation increases
  • How Ari Galper is leveraging AI to share his private sales IP with clients through ARIAI (Ari’s digital twin and trust-based AI advisor)
  • Practical use cases for personalized AI in sales teams, content creation, and real-time advisory
  • Building lasting community and legacy around trust-based selling, including live meetups and app development

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