September 6, 2024 • 75 mins
What's your favorite 90s monster quote? Does un-funny office horror work? Could you read from a screen without tongue tying yourself? Get down on Friday with us this week as we get wild with the popcorny Carnifex (Australia, 2022) on Tubi, shrug at the wasted potential of The Belko Experiment on Tubi and get creeped out over late night snacks with Milk on Shortverse. Also, movies about bad dads and the wilderness are dropping this week and Melissa reminds us what George Romero called them instead of zombies.
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So I feel like I owe Gradyan explanation because he
popped into, I.
Logged on almost immediatelyafter you sent the link.
I saw some drama happening.
Oh, was it Ozzy drama?
It was not. No. It was my wife.
So I send the link, Iget the headphones in,
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and I'm in a recording booth. Right.I teach podcasting at a university,
so it's a semi legit setupand I'm in the zone. Right.
You have a built thingbehind you. It's very.
Fancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very fancy.
And I feel like I put myheadphones on and everything,
and all of a sudden there's avoice right in my ear. I did it.
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She meant she got Roz to sleep becauseshe's been a little extra fussy
and likes to bounce up and thenrun to one end of the crib going
and then running to the otherend of the crib. Loose subway,
ambulatory babies do. Right?Exactly. That's normal. That's fine.
But don't come up rightin my ear. Whisper.
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I did it.
So I naturally jump three feetin the air, which I'm like five.
Five. So that's proportionatelylike Mario. Yeah.
Presumably cleaning to theceiling like a cat. Yes.
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And I look at her.
Like, what the fuck did I do to you?
I didn't know who it was. Ididn't know what was happening.
And she's laughing and shesays, you watch all this scary,
spooky shit all the time. And I said,yeah, when I'm looking at the tv,
the TV's not behind me.
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That's amazing.
You realize the next timewe're over at your house,
we're absolutely going todo the same thing to you.
And enough time will go by that you'llhave forgotten this conversation and
it'll be a nice shock.
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Welcome to Imported Horror.
This is the podcast that brings youthe very best of homicidal coworkers,
arboreal creatures.
Stop motion relics and milk from Beyond
the Shining Seas, please. I'm Marcus.
I'm here with my co-hosts whoare both working for the weekend.
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Melissa and Grady.
Let that one pass by.
Friday. It's Friday. Friday,we've got to get done on Friday.
Stop. Obviously,
there's some really fun covers ofthat song on YouTube. Incidentally,
they take it in a totallydifferent direction. But yeah,
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we're taking with our schedule.
As we're doing our episodes onFriday, that took way too long.
Yeah, I didn't get thateither. And also, wow. Yeah,
working for what other.
Working for the weekend, the.
Covers of the song. Howcould it have different.
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Two different songs? So there'sFriday, Friday by Rebecca Black.
Yeah.
And then working for the Weekend is thatfamous eighties song that nobody knows
who sang it, but everybody knows allthe words because of Chris Farley.
Okay. Okay. All right.Oh, poor Rebecca Black.
I mean, yeah. No, she didNot Deserve, yeah. Yeah.
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But there are really cool coversof that song out there. So.
There.
Are, anyway,
this week I've got AustralianCreature feature Carnifex on
Tubi.
Brady's got the Belco experiment fromthe US and Colombia on VOD and the
Prime evils, which Ididn't realize was out.
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I'm really stoked to talk about that.
And quick correction. BelcoExperiment is also on Tubi.
Oh, sweet. Ooh.
I am totally saying that becauseI had spoilers for my review.
No one should pay to watchthe Belco experiment.
And Melissa is doing a movie called Milk,
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and I'm assuming it's not the queerpolitical drama starring Sean Penn,
but IMD, imdb and I are bothvery confused and got nothing.
No.
I thought it was, and I thought,wow, that's Canadian. And also, wow,
that story must be a lotdarker than I thought it was,
and I already thought it was pretty dark.
It is a horror short from my newfavorite website, short verse.
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I'll never get enough of it.
That makes considerable more sense. Yes.
And we're still tinkering.We're always tinkering.
We're always toying with stuff.
So new schedule and maybe new featurethat we're trying out for the second
episode. So Melissa, youKen has trivia for us.
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I Ken has trivia. Okay,so we have a couple here,
and I think I'm going to do two of them.
And there are reasons why I pickedboth of them that you'll figure out.
But we all know thatNight of the Living Dead,
the original George Romero got me intohorror, one of my favorite movies.
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Here's a question for you guys.
What are the zombies referredto as in Night of the Living
Dead?
Oh, I know this.
It's not zombie. They don'tactually say the Z word.
I would make it a trivia question.I would make it a multiple choice,
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but now I know if I do that,you're going to get it. Oh.
Yeah. No, it's right there. And it'snot dead eye either. I know that.
No.
Nope.
Walker's was The Walking Dead.
Yep.
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I can hear Joe Bob Briggs sayingit and talking about this.
He did Night of the Living Dead.
And there's a little followup to that one. It's not, no.
So there's a little follow up to this one,
and it's not going to bethe second trivia question,
but it's kind of justa trivia within this,
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what George Romero zombie film didthey first utter the word zombie?
That's probably the one in the mall.
Night of the Living Deadtwo. The search for George.
It's the one in the mall.It's one of the dead 1978.
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
I can tell you that it wasshot outside of Pittsburgh.
I can tell you that George Romerogot his start working on Mr. Rogers
neighborhood. I can tell you that.
I can tell you that the nightof the Living Dead is public
domain due to a massivefuck up by their lawyers.
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And if zombies hadn't been public domainas soon as they'd have been invented,
we'd have a very differenthorror escape than we do now.
So that's kind of neat.
I'll give you a hint.
Yeah.
There is a video game that just had a
series released that hasto do with that video game.
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It's a horror video game,I guess you could say.
And that particular video gamehas the same word that they
call their monsters.
Does it count as a hint if it'smore complicated than the original.
Questions? No. No
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follower?
No.
I don't remember. It's rightthere, but I'm not going to get it.
It starts with a G.
The garners? No, the Goonies.No, that doesn't make any sense.
I'm ashamed for evensuggesting that I'm ashamed.
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Yeah, I got nothing. Oh, I knew that.
And now do you know the videogame that I'm referring to?
I actually don't.
And now I'm blanking on the name.
The nuclear war one fall is Fallfallout. Thank you. Fallout.
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Okay. Fallout. Yes.
They're called ghouls. The peoplethat have been affected by radiation.
Yeah, they're basically,
they're not like zombies in how wethink of zombies in other media.
They just look really gross becausetheir skin's all mutated and otherwise
they're normal if kind of Jack Cassie.
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Yep. But they do refer to them as schools,
or I guess the gul, the singular one,
but I think that they referto more of them as GULs.
Yeah, no, there are whole species.
I'm remembering.
Well, not species, but there'ssignificantly more than one of 'em.
Excellent. So yeah. So in thesequel, the Dawn of the Dead,
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which is where theyactually first say zombies,
they do that because there'sa character from Trinidad,
and that is the first person in themovies to refer to the creature of Zombie
because based on the stories fromhis grandfather who was practitioner
and knowledge of voodoo zombies.
Yeah, it all has roots in Haitianand Caribbean folklore and
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some of the old schools not likeWhite Zombie, the whole notion,
it's more similar to Frankensteinthan Romero ultimately.
And the monster hasevolved quite a bit. No,
I should have known that. Thatwas good. That's a good one.
It's a hard one, right?
Yep.
Alright, so I have another one thatI will give you multiple choice.
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I don't think either of you are goingto know this because this trivia is
real like trivia. Not a lot ofpeople have talked about this,
but I think it's really cool.
So what appliance,
or I should say,
what object did severalcast and crew members
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demand to be removed from theirhotel rooms during the filming
of the exorcism of Emily Rose? Coffee,
pots, TVs, the Bible, or radios?
Well, the Bible's not an appliance,and that's kind of a weird request.
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Is it? If you're doingsomething about exorcism.
I mean, yeah,
you might want one on hand actually.
Trying.
I've never actually seenthe exorcism of Emily Rose,
so I'm trying to think of what I knowof that movie through pop culture,
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osmosis.
And what would make sense fromthat movie that would skive out
the cast and crew enough thatthey wouldn't want to look at one.
In a hotel room? Their hotel rooms.
In the hotel rooms during.
The filming. Okay, so tv,
microwave and radio.
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It was coffee pot, tv,radio or Bible. Okay.
The radio doesn't make a lot of senseunless it's filmed somewhere in Eastern
Europe and they just allcome with radios. But.
I think I'm going to gowith Coffee Pot. Okay,
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great. I'm going to go withTV just as a one in four.
Chance shot in the dark.
Okay. You are both wrong.It is the radio really.
Scott Derickson, thedirector of Exorcism of
Emily Rose,
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confirmed that the film's lead actorJennifer Carpenter's radio would
inexplicably turn on in the middleof the night while they were filming.
So not only did that happento Carpenter, but the CoStar,
Laura Linney also experiencedsome paranormal activity.
Her radio would turn on threeor four times during the night.
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And so they have removed,
they requested the radios be removedbecause it freaked them out so bad because
here they were filming theexorcism of Emily Rose.
So this is try to sleep do with aparticularly spooky radio related scene
in the exorcism.
This was just either anelectrical short or a hotel
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employee fucking with them.
Yep. Okay.
Oh, you mean like the little alarmclock radio things by the day? Oh,
that makes more sense. No, thosedamn things, every time I travel,
they go off. The first night,
I was at a conference in Philadelphia acouple of weeks ago and was four 30 in
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the morning.
The damn thing just goes off andthere was nothing paranormal about it.
It was because that was the previousperson in the room had set that alarm and
then just hadn't clearedit. But I'm groggy,
just caveman slapping it,trying to make it stop.
So apparently to a couple of times
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when it would come on,
it would be in a section of Pearl Jamsong Alive where they would just be
singing the phrase, I'malive, I'm still alive,
I'm still alive over and over again.
And I have to think that what probablyhappened with that is that may have been
an intro song, a radiostation used or whatever,
and it went off at the same timeevery day or every night, but
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Or somebody missing radios. Yeah, exactly.
Jennifer Carpenter and Laura.
I would not want to messwith those two women new.
They're incredible horror icons,but it would've been really funny.
If that's the case,
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I've got a bunch more,
but I'm going to save thembecause they're all really good.
I hope that those twowere kind of fun and.
They.
Gave you a little insight intotwo different things about movies.
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So we got three importedhorrors dropping this week,
and one that I missed that I wantto go back to September, October,
are both going to be busy, busy, busy.
So buckle up and there are a couple ofrecurring themes in the ones we're going
to talk about today.See if you can spot 'em.
The first, which actually I don't thinkis part of either of the running themes,
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dropping on VOD on Friday, September 6th.
This is the Well from Italy,
a budding art restorer travels toa small Italian village to bring a
medieval painting backto its former glory.
Little does she know she's placing herlife in danger from an evil curse and a
monster born of myth and brutal pain.
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So the art restorer in question isplayed by Scream Queen extraordinaire,
Lauren Lara of Terrifi two fame. This one,
one looks like fun to me. It lookedlike it didn't take itself too.
Seriously. I
kind of hope it doesn'tbecause I will admit that.
The scary Well paintingmonster looks a little
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too much like Golum from Lord of theRings for me to take it seriously.
Once you see that, you cannot see.
That's true. I can see that. Yeah.
So whether it's good or not, Ihave to see it because of course,
the first comment under the YouTubetrailer was somebody going, ah,
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another female protagonist in a horrormovie. So just for you commenter,
I'm going to make sure Iwatch this so many times.
Watch that be the director underan alias that's just trolling you.
Yes. I want them to watchit with all the ladies.
That sounded so much less creepyin my head than when I said it.
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Out loud.
I wasn't going to sayanything, but okay. Okay.
And it's Italian, so your heritage,you sort of have to watch it.
I do, yeah. It's kind of a necessity.
This kind of interests me too,because one of my side hustles,
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and I know it's a different skillsetcompletely from restoring old paintings,
is I digitally restore old photographs.
And I can absolutely see howrestoring old paintings or photographs
could work as an angle for a horror movie.
Kind of like archeology in a weird way.
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You're unearthing and reconstructingthe past and maybe you reconstruct
something you shouldn't.
Yep, absolutely.
So it's freaky. I remember itbeing honestly pretty scary.
But there's a movie called The CanalThere for Ireland where at least
part of it is the guy who's workingas an old classic film restorer and
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digitizer because a lot ofthose old physical films,
they weren't meant to last decades anddecades. And so they start to degrade.
And so he's one of the guys working fora film commission that restores it and
then digitizes it. And yeah,he starts to see some stuff.
That's really cool. By the way, Grady,I didn't know you did that. Yeah.
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Like a super cool talent
and yeah, you could make a lot ofgood money from that, can't you?
Especially now,
people probably want theirphotos restored quite often.
And.
To be clear,
what I do mostly just kind amountsto scanning old photographs and
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touching them up in Photoshopas best I can to make them.
Not look faded and old and.
Damaged.
So it's not, like I said, not.
Quite the same as taking an oldpainting and doing the same thing
physically.
Cleaning it, but it's a thing that's.
(19:58):
Super cool. I have to send you a TikTok.
There is somebody ordered a Temu,
a temu blanket or something.Temu is like, wish,
you know how they say thewish version of something?
It's the same thing. Temuis like you pay tiny,
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tiny little bit of money andyou get something in return.
So it's a weird chop. Everybody elsewill know what I'm talking about.
Emily will know what I'm talking about.
Anyway, I have no idea.
What you're.
All about.
Yeah.
So she sent in old, it's this oldfamily photo, like an online shop thing,
and I know about the human rightsabuses, but that's about it.
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So she sent this family photothat she wanted to be put on
a blanket, and it looked goodup until you got to the faces,
and it looked like somebody justkind of tried to draw in the faces,
but they didn't know how to draw.And it turned out terrifying.
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And I kind of love it. So Igot to send you that TikTok.
I'm thinking of that guy that drewa smiley face on the Mona Lisa.
That's basically like a budgetpainting restorer kind of deal.
I forget what show, butjust it did not go well.
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No. Oh man.
Well, also on the sixth,this time on Shutter,
we have the demon disorder from Australia.
Tells the story of Graham Jake andPhilip Riley and their deceased
father, their past pasts collide.
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Their lives collide. No,that's not the same thing.
Their pasts collide when afamily's secret is discovered
leading their father's garage to becomethe site of revenge from beyond the
grave. Now, I could go back and editthat, but I'm not going to do that.
That's fair. You listen.
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Our people know who we are.
I love that they see us warts and all.
Well, I just got an email from astudent saying, hello, professor Frank.
I'm totally going to callyou that from now on.
That is the only thing I'm going tocall you ever from this day forward.
(22:37):
Professor Frank, now.
Amazing.
In his, I hesitate to say defense.
My phone is Autocorrectedfunk to Frank before,
so that might not havebeen completely his fault.
Oh, okay. Fair enough. Fair.
Enough. I am still going to callyou Professor Frank from that one.
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Oh yeah. So this one,
I feel like this is thestart of the theme, right?
So is it like dads arethe theme fatherhood.
Bad dads? Yes.
Bad dads. Okay. So it was funny, Iwas trying to figure out the theme.
So I watched the first one and then Iwatched the second one and I'm like,
is the theme demons? And then Iwatched the third one and I'm like, oh,
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it's daddy issues.
I was way off.
What'd you think?
I thought it was mid twothousands neoconservative hunting accidents that aren't
actually accidents also.
Yes.
Yes.
Not sure where the paintingrestore fit into that,
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but I was kind of doing someNPO nippo calisthenics there.
Dick Cheney would like a word.
Oh God.
But yeah, bad dad. Lots of bodyhorror. This has a good reputation.
It was mentioned of the BloodyDisgusting podcast recently,
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and it definitely looks intense.
The weld looks like it probablydoesn't take itself too seriously.
It might even go a little bit farin the opposite direction. This,
they would call this elevated horror.
Yeah.
I could see that.
I had a difficult time seeing that.
And I kind of realized somethingabout myself watching this trailer.
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And I don't know if it's a good thing,
but I'm going to hash it out herein this private publicly broadcast
podcast with my friends.
It is very difficult for me to takeanything with an Australian accent
seriously.
And I'm worried about what that says aboutme and my attitude towards Australia.
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And also I was watching these trailers
in the same room as my parents who werewatching TV and an Outback Steakhouse
commercial came on right at the sametime that I was watching this trailer,
which did not help. That's incredible.
My point is,
this whole time I was expecting one ofthem to threaten to sneak up on that
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demon and jam a thumb up. Its butthole.
Yeah.
Yeah. I, and.
Maybe that happens. I don't know.
That is an old South Park referencefor those of you that didn't get it,
so that you don't think I'm insane.Speaking of mid two thousands.
References.
(25:31):
We'll always reference South.
Oh, earlier than that. This was like anineties. This was nineties South Park.
I thought early was old. This.
Is.
Second season. Oh, Ithought it was the Russell.
Crow episode.
No.
Yeah, not.
Oh.
Okay. Was it first season? Ithought it was first season.
Maybe it was second season. Shoot.
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It had to have been when Steve Irwinwas still alive because that's what they
were.
Thinking. So then probablythe second season rather,
or first season, anyway.
I'm going to sneak right up on themand jam my thumb up. Its butthole.
And in fairness, theAustralian sense of humor,
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a lot of them would thinkthat was really funny.
I think don't want to speakfor an entire nation. But.
Anyway,
my point is I may have a little bit ofa bias when it comes to Australia and
that may not be a good thing.
Fair.
Enough. And so I have a movie for you.
(26:35):
Let's bookmark that thoughtbecause the movie I did this week,
big check mark for everything youjust said, and it's fantastic. Okay,
love it. Also,
keeping with Bad dads on the sixth on VOD
betrayal from the United Kingdom,
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three brothers returned to the remotewoodland where they killed their abusive
father only to discover his shower grave.
What is wrong with me?
I love that. It's like theepisode that we really.
Choose not to edit it. Well, I mean,
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I used to listen to Every Minute Grace,
the shower grave ofDoctor of Professor Frank.
I used to listen to every minute ofthis and I would edit and trim and
everything that it took forever.And at some point I was like,
why am I doing this?
I'll just bookmark the times whenMelissa goes to do full blown Miss Andry,
(27:39):
and I'll cut that out. Call a day. Yeah.
But usually I can also talk. So.
The Shower grave of Professor Franksounds like an AI generated horror title.
Honestly, it sounds like atub movie that I would watch.
I might ask ai, ask to write a script.
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Let's see what happens.
Do.
It. Sure. Why.
Not?
Three brothers returned to the remotewoodland where they killed their abusive
father only to discoverhis shallow grave is now
empty,
forcing them to question one another'sloyalty with devastating consequences as
fear and paranoia set in.
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So this is a good reputation.
I mean.
Bad dad.
Yeah.
Bad dad.
I am guessing that the dad turnsout to be a zombie or revenant of
some kind and probablyway off, but we will see.
Yeah. Yeah. I dunno. The IMDBreviews were pretty wild.
(28:50):
I would assume this will hitstreaming somewhere at some point.
I thought it was a shutter release.
I thought they had the shutter logoin there. But when I went back,
when I went back and watched itagain, I did not see the shutter logo.
So I think I'm wrong.
About that Demon disorder. Andthe other one we're doing both do.
So you might have just gotten conflated.
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Yeah, I think so. So theother one, late August,
our friends in the Great White Northgave us another wilderness horror.
And this is the other tie into the theme.
Adam McDonald,
who directed Backcountry and Piewhack is returning for another.
Don't go into the Woods Talecalled Out Come The Wolves.
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And the Bloody Disgustingpodcast mentioned this one too.
They said McDonald considers thispart three of a wilderness horror
trilogy with those other two.And it stars Missy Pergram,
who was also in Backcountryand Backcountry was a
very scary movie. That really.
(29:57):
Very scary movie.
It was, yeah. No, it was. It reallywas. It scared the crap out of me.
So realistic predatory bearattacks do happen from time to time
and just the circumstances andeverything, it really shook me.
I loved it and also hatedit because oh my God.
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But wolves don't attack people, soI'm a little suspicious of this one.
I think something else might be going on.
Again, the wolves are ametaphor. YouTube comments.
Yeah.
Yes. That would be.
My.
The first
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comment was friend zoned the movie.
I mean.
So was there just a raging misogynistwatching all the same trailers as you at
the exact same time?
Apparently.
Okay.
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But I feel like that's at leasta little accurate based on what I
thought of the trailer.
Well, they definitely set that up.
And Backcountry had someelements of that too,
where a different version of it couldhave turned into a slasher instead of
a killer pair movie trailerdefinitely wants you to think that.
(31:28):
But we've also seen some actualKiller Wolf movies before The
Gray, or
what was that terribleone that we watched with
one of the scars guards.
And Jeffrey Wright. You remember?
(31:54):
No, I'm thinking of Kevin's.
It'll come to me.
So who wants to go first?
Do you want to keep experimentingwith Australia, Grady?
Because I think youwould like Let's do that.
Australia. Let's do Australia.
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Get all the Australiajokes out of our system.
Okay, so.
Hold the dark.
Thank you. Hold the dark.Yes, yes. I did not enjoy it.
I didn't think you did either.
No, no.
So I watched car effects from Australia
on Tuby IMDB summary,
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an aspiring documentarian and twoconservationists venture into the
outback to record animalsdisplaced by bush fires.
What is a bush fire?Why am I so bad at this?
Well, and it's Australia, right?So is it bush fire or brush fire?
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Oh, Bush fire makes much more sense.
So I didn't misspell it becauseI was thinking it was brush fire,
but then I didn't see an R. Is.
Marcus the she of the professor.
Be so bad night of the bus fire?
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I'm a professional. Wedo professional things,
an aspiring documentarianand two conservationists
venture into the outback to recordanimals displaced by bush fires.
Why is that one word?
Shouldn't that be two differentwords where they discover
aPurifying new species, I think.
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I mean, yeah, professional,
doing professional things. So anyway,
I saw this on a Saturday night. Emilyand Roz were asleep. I was tired.
I was in that weird neutral zone whereI didn't want to get too invested in a
movie and I didn't wantto watch a good movie,
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but I also didn't want to waste my timewith a dumpster dive and watch a bad
movie.
And that's a real fine line to
walk. So
I went to Tubi as one does undersuch circumstances and Tubi
once again, scratch that itch real good.
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And I appreciate that this hasthe heart and soul of a nineties
creature feature all the waydown to a shameless quote,
because of course they quotedthat guy. Of course they did.
It's beautiful.
The fox molder moment wherethe creature is really cool.
(34:54):
It's got a great sense of humor,
and the monster is in the words ofmolder within the realm of extreme
possibility.So it's fun. Get some popcorn,
get a beer. It's an Australian monstermovie. They shot it in the outback,
the scariest parts of the movie. Honestly,
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there's at one point wherethe documentarian who's not accustomed to being out
in the woods in a tent,conservationists are,
and the documentarian is hearing allthese animals making these sounds that I'm
assuming they were actually making inreal life out there on the woods with this
just small team filming this movie.
And they're legitimatelyfreaky as all get like
(35:38):
koalas. They're adorable, right?They're super cute to look at.
They sound like theliteral spawn of Satan.
It took me a while to realize you weretalking about the animals making animals
sounds and not the documentariansmaking the animal sounds
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in the back while they were filming.
Why would anyone ever do that?
I don't know. That's why I was confused.
No, they had a camera.
They had actors in the outback and theyhad the actors responding to the real
life animal sounds, including a koala,
which legitimately sounds terrifying.And you're like, what the hell is that?
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And is it going to kill me quicklyor slowly? And no, it's just a cute,
adorable little koala.
Insert joke about.
Australian wildlife here.
So yeah, I mean, yeah,it's that kind of movie.
It is a creature featurethat it feels very
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nineties. They shot it out in the outback.
The ending could have been a littlebit better, but it still worked for me.
The reviews really panned itbecause they said, oh, well,
the monster doesn't look good,and the CGI looks new. It's like,
it's a low budget monstermovie. What do you expect?
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That's a completely unfaircriticism. And I thought, given
presumably this is a low budgetmovie, I didn't look it up.
But given those constraints,
the monster I thought wasreally clever and fun and looked
fine. It's not going to win any visualeffects awards, but it looks fine.
That just seems like areally unfair criticism.
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As long as they didn't have ahairless Moby as a werewolf,
I'm okay with any other thing that anyof these movies wanted to do For a fact.
They did not. This was not where, no,
this was a better movieall around them where
the characters were likable.
The Fox Molder moment and themonster were genuinely cool.
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The subtitles lagged a littlebit behind the dialogue,
and because they shot it out inthe Outback, it was literally dark.
Not figuratively dark, but literally dark.
So I wound up having to listen a littlemore carefully and watch a little more
closely than I would've really liked fora monster movie on Tuby. But even so,
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it's fine.
That subtitle thing seems to bea problem with Tuby in general.
I ran into the same issue when Iwatched the Velco experiment. Yeah.
There's a couple of movies thatI watched that had that issue,
and then there are somethat it's on point.
So I don't know who does captions.
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I would assume it's not the movie.
I.
Think I don't actually know.
Yeah, that's something I haven't beenmeaning to look into for a while,
especially for our thing, we haveto do subtitles for a lot of stuff
that feels like information. We shouldbe a little more conversant then.
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I'm going to look into that. Yeah,that'd be great. Awesome. Next.
Time.
It comes up. I'm just curious.
Yeah. Well, and this, theymatched and their English,
they were speaking English,and even with the accent,
you can tell there weren't any translationissues, but they were just delayed,
which in the beginning is funbecause the beginning is just,
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you don't see the monster,
but it eats something and the thingis getting eaten because you see that.
And so the little subtitle with theparentheses monster crunching sounds
that pops up after the monstercrunching sounds begin.
And it's like reminding you, Hey, theseare monster crunching sounds. It's like,
yes, tub Me. I know. Thankyou. Very good job there.
What really annoys me iswhen subtitles spoil things.
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There's one movie where, I can't remember,
it wasn't a very good movie, butit's one movie a few years ago,
but it spoiled the name of the antagonistand that something that a character
was dreaming about was a villain.
I think it was that video game one.I can't remember what it was called.
But anyway.
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Oh, I think you're right.The one with Robert England.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know exactly. Yes. And it did. Yes.
It totally did. It totallydid. That was on Netflix.
That's going to drive me up the wall.
Well, and so it did thattoo. There was a couple,
and I want to say maybe thanksKilling It did that too,
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because it had the voice ofthe killer and it said the
character's name blah blah with.I'm like, God damn it. Really?
Yeah.
Shoes or Die. Oh.
Yeah.
Totally did that.
But Car Fix was fun. I would say Grady,
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for your particular predilection of notbeing able to take Australia seriously,
this is a great one because this moviedoesn't take itself seriously at all. And
it's not slap sticky, it'snot outright horror comedy,
but it's a fun monstermovie. It knows what it is.
It's leaning into it. It has fun.
I'm not going to say who they quote,
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but you know who it's,
you're going to see the quotecoming from a mile away.
You're going to say it with the movieand you're going to love it. And.
I need to know.
The quote. You know the quote?You absolutely know the quote.
It's from the nineties apparently.Yes, very much from the nineties.
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From the nineties. Awesome.
I think I gave it three starson Letterboxed. I liked it.
It's not really scary. Maybe aone, maybe a two, but it's a.
Put on the background movie.
Good. I don't want to think toomuch. I'm halfway on my phone,
but I'm watching this type ofthing. It was fun. I liked it.
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Awesome. Grady,
did you want to go next ordid you want me to go next?
Well, I've got two moviesthat I'm going to talk about,
one of which is I enjoyed,
but it's not technicallyeligible for the podcast,
but it has some connections to thethings we've done that are eligible,
that are kind of neat thatI'm going to get into.
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And then I have another movie that I amgoing to swing out with a golf club for
several minutes. So whydon't you go ahead and do.
Yours? Do you want to do this?
Okay, I can definitely do that.
So again, I have beenobsessed with short verse,
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I can't get enough of these shorthorror movies, and I'm actually,
so it's expanding my
understanding of what I find horrifying,
what I think scares me the most.
And this really preyed on
the fact that something can feel normal,
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something can feel every dayyou can be talking to a person,
but that person isn'twho you think they are.
And not everything is how it seems.
And it's that sitting inuncomfortableness that scares me the most.
So this movie's called Milk.
It's actually a staff pick from Vimeo.
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It won a couple awards atSouth by Southwest. It's 2018,
it's by Santiago Menini.
And Little Synopsis is one late night,
a young teen goes into thekitchen for a glass of milk.
Upon encountering his sleepless mother,
he quickly realizes thingsare not as they seem.
So immediately one of the firstthings you notice about this movie
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is you have a shot thatlooks like almost like
Alfred Hitchcock's the Birds.
There's a bunch of crows ona line and unassuming house,
and it just feels incredibly unsettling.You dunno why it's unsettling,
but it's unsettling. I lovedthis because when I went back,
I rewatched it with the directorand writer's commentary.
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That's what they were going for.
The Alfred Hitchcock thingsare just a little bit
outside the realm of where they shouldbe and you're not really sure why.
And it starts off kind ofinnocently enough. I mean,
the kid goes downstairs, yousee the light on upstairs,
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but you see that all the other lightsare off in the house and kid goes
downstairs grabs a milk carton.
Now this is one of thosethings where it's very obvious.
It was a very obvious, Hey, look at this.
But it's also something thatyou would see all the time.
This is obviously an older time,
and so you have the milk carton withthe missing on it and two pictures of
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children.
Yes.
And why you can't really see thepictures. You're already like,
okay, it's centered in the frameenough where it feels uncomfortable.
And you kind of see a shadow behind
the kid and you don'treally know what it is.
(45:15):
And then it just kind of starts toget creepier and creepier to where
you have the mom who's talkingto the kid. And the first time,
the time the mom is talking to the kid,she yells at him, get a damn glass,
stop drinking right out of the carton.
Very something that Dan would doand everybody would do whatever.
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And then it just starts,
she starts to sound a little weird.
And then you see her feet and herfeet are dirty. She's been outside.
And then from the otherside of the house you hear
his mother calling him. And
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for that, for it being 10 minutes,
it felt like the longest time of not
knowing who was really the mom who was
there for him. Are theyboth? Maybe this is not,
and it just.
Why is the Dopel hanger such a stick?It was uncomfortable for using a glass.
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And
there is some kind of bodyhorror in this in terms of
faces, and it pulls it off so well.
A lot of times I feel like when theydo the short films and indie films,
when they do horror makeup, it doesn'tlook right. It doesn't look great.
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No,
this was done so well and shot sowell in the perfect lighting that
whoever that was, it terrified me.
And the themes here are justnot wanting your kid to grow up,
wanting to keep them as a child.
(47:12):
So the director talked about howhe kind of got the idea for this,
and he has a big family,
and he was there for the holidays anda couple of his cousins couldn't come.
And so it was like thatlonging of missing his cousins.
But he had gone downstairs in the middleof the night and his mother was on the
phone with I guess those cousins,
and she was whispering because she didn'twant to wake up the rest of the house.
(47:37):
But that eerie feeling of goingdownstairs, not knowing somebody's there,
and then somebody whisperingand your mother whispering,
and it just felt so surreal.
And that feeling of wherewe are not going to see
our cousins, are they going to grow up?
We're not going to seethem until next year.
And how much more grown will they be? And
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the themes in this are interesting.
It doesn't necessarily have an ending
or even just a beginning.
It's more of just that 10 minutesof fear and it's very open to
interpretation. Even thoughthey have a solid last line,
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you can interpret what happeneda number of different ways.
And I think that makes it scarier.
You can go back and rewatchit and kind of build your own
backstory as to what's going on.
And it's just that feeling of you'relooking at somebody and that person is
saying, no, don't go there.That's not who that is.
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I am your mother. And having that otherperson saying, no, I'm your mother.
It creeped me out.
And the shots were perfect,
just the unassuming house,the perfect lighting,
just creepy as all hellbecause it felt so normal
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until you hear the other voice.
So terror scale, honestly,
for a short film, it was a two.Because if I was watching this,
I don't think I would then go upstairsand get a glass of water or something in
the middle of the night, I got to say.
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And to have so much packed in such a
short film.
I love when they do that because youcan tell so much story in 10 minutes
and you're either going to be effectiveat it or it's not going to work.
And this was incredibly effective.
And I don't think that itwould've worked as a longer movie.
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He's got a bunch more that I want towatch that are on short verse because I do
like him as a director.
I think that the way that he filmsthings are really interesting.
And he actually, so the title sceneis water floating Right or Water
When you're looking at a lake and it'srippling and then it just has the title
(50:12):
there. He did that with bathtub,
put some dark towels on the bottom ofit, his bathtub, and he shot the water.
And then overlaid the and way hetalked about how he filmed some
of this stuff,
you would've thought he actually had ahuge budget because it was really good.
And no, it was just stupid stuff likethat. And that makes it even better.
(50:37):
He used what he had on handand he made it amazing.
So I have a feeling, yeah,
we're going to see a lot more fromhim and I hope some feature lengths.
Nice. Well, and that behind thescenes practical effects stuff,
you either get really excitedabout that and it's cool,
or it stresses you out like nothing else,
(50:59):
and you just want to go to the computer.
And I just love the idea of a coupleof people sitting around with a camera
going, all right, howare we going to do this?
And somebody just tosses towelsin a bathtub like that kind of
DIY really works for me. AndI hope when that's a fun,
positive experience.It can be really cool,
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just like any other working environment.When it's toxic, it's toxic.
But this sounds like it was a lot of fun.
Well, and I have to saytoo, listening to him,
so I watched him do a whole
voiceover and talk about how hedirected the movie and everything,
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and he goes shot by shot andlistening to him talk about it,
you can see that this was his passionand he was so excited about these
different cool things that he wasable to do and how they looked.
And he is like, oh, doesthat shot look cool?
And so you could tell it's a passion,
and I think that's where you get themost effective horror movies out of
somebody who actually has apassion for making it look
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and feel the way you want it to.
Yeah, yeah. Really the most effective,anything for that matter. But yeah,
definitely horror.
Yeah.
So Milk 2018 on short verse, go watch it.
Cool. All right.
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So I did.
All Grady, are we going to getthe good first or the bad first?
I think I know which one is.
First. Wait,
I'm going to do the good one firstbecause it's going to be considerably
shorter. It is nothing about,
it's actually forum per se, so I don'twant to spend too much time on it.
(52:48):
First one I did is the Primevals,
which was released in 2023,
despite the fact that the writing andfilming initially started in the late
sixties. So the premise,
this is from Wikipedia, after aYeti is killed by a group of Sherpa,
a team of university scientists travelto Nepal to find the origins of the
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creature teaming up with a rugged tracker,
the group set out to the Sherpa Village,and after a large avalanche discover,
a hidden primeval wind populated byprehistoric creatures, ancient hominids,
and an alien reptilian species.
I did not realize until I started readingthis out loud how spoilery that was,
but whatever.
(53:36):
Anyway, so this movie was apassion project of David Allen.
He was a prolific stop motionanimator, special effects artists,
did tons of stuff in theseventies and eighties,
the creature designing specialeffects for Ghostbusters one and two,
the stop motion for the Giant InsectsAnd Honey I Shrunk Kids Most relevant to
(53:59):
our podcast.
He was the effects guy for thefirst three Subspecies movies.
Noise. He's.
The man that animated thefinger denotes finger.
Demons. Okay, well then he'sincredible. That's all I'm.
Going to say. Pretty one.
Yep. Soon as I found that out,
(54:20):
that was my entire justification fortalking about the movie on the podcast.
Otherwise, I was just going to leaveit at Watch The Primevals. It's neat.
No, you had to do that. You hadto talk about it. It's important.
Absolutely. Absolutely. So he startedwriting this in the late sixties.
It's one of the very first filmprojects that he started on,
and he kind of kept coming back toit off and on for several decades,
(54:44):
just getting a studio to fund it,
and then losing that funding andjust doing some of it on his own and
got a bunch of,
most of the scenes with actors andstuff were filmed in the mid nineties,
so he was able to get a lot ofthe non effect shots done then.
(55:04):
But ultimately, unfortunately,he died in 1999,
and he left the stop motion puppets,the already film sequences, the scripts,
storyboards, just everything toone of his colleagues, Chris Kott,
who struggled for years to finda way to complete it until he
started an Indiegogo campaign in 2018,
(55:25):
which is where I had first heard of this.
I had heard about this beforeyou told me about it, Marcus.
And I remember seeing the Indiegogocampaign thinking, oh, okay, that's neat.
They don't do stop motion anymore.
And then I never really thoughtabout it again until you sent me the
trailer last week, Marcus. Iwas like, oh yeah, that thing.
(55:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bloodydisgusting. Had an article about it.
I didn't realize it was out already, but.
Just came out last week, I think,or just came onto demand last week.
I know.
I think it did some film festivalcircuits last year in 2023,
the release date on it.
(56:08):
But it just came to streamingon video, on demand,
and on Amazon a week or two agoas it was recording, I think.
Okay. But anyway.
Movie Really neat Effects,
thought it was worth talking about justdue to the connections to Full Moon
(56:30):
Studios and the SubspeciesFinger demon guy. Oh, yeah.
Writing wise,
you can kind of tell that thiswas pasti of several different
drafts over several decades,
and it's definitely the kind of moviethat would've been an amazing cult
classic if it had come up closerto when he first came up with it.
(56:53):
But nowadays, it showsits age a little bit. And
if you're going into thisexpecting a more modern grizzly
stop motion horror, this won'tnecessarily scratch that itch.
But if you come into it expectinga good goofy seventies and eighties
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style adventure movie slashcreature feature, this is.
A good one.
Okay.
Well, and I love that backstory too.
It reminds me of Mad God on Shutter,
which different special effects guy,
but sort of a similar story where hejust worked on it off and on for decades,
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and that is terrifying.
That is a trippy as hell fever dream that
is horrifying. Stop motion,brilliantly done, genuinely scary.
This sounds a lot moredigestible, a lot easier.
I'll say the zing of thestop motion creatures is
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on point.
The Eddie admittedly looks a littlebit Rankin bass for my taste,
but the alien creatures and some of theother things that show up in the second
half of the movie,
those might creep youout if Stop motion's,
the kind of thing thatcreeps you out. Nice.
Fair enough. I love that.
(58:19):
Makes me want to go back and rewatch stop.
Motion.
Oh God, I loved that movie.
That was a good one.Yeah. And this one is too,
let's get to the.
Yeah, had to get to it.
I was curious to see if your opinions hadchanged from when you last watched it.
(58:43):
If anything. I like ita little less now, but
let's get into it.
So my other choice of moviethis week was from America and
Columbia released in 2016,the Bellco Experiment
summary from IMDB In aTwisted Social Experiment,
80 Americans are locked in their highrise corporate office in Bogota, Columbia.
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I probably mispronounce that and orderedby an unknown voice coming from the
company's intercom system to participatein a deadly game of kill or be killed.
So a lot of marketing buzzaround this movie at the time.
And I remember this becausewe saw this in theaters.
(59:27):
Yeah, we did. Yeah. This was early 2016.
Yeah, but before 2016 became 2016, so to.
Speak. Yeah,
just started June 1st. Oh, no.
(59:49):
I.
Had just started at one of my manyunpleasant corporate jobs over the years,
and.
That.
Particularly excited me for thepremise of this movie in particular.
But.
Yeah, March 17th, 2017, solater than I thought. Oh, okay.
But I definitely remember seeingit with you and one of the twins.
(01:00:13):
Yeah.
I don't remember which one.
And it was my idea, Iwas hyped for this movie,
and I don't know if I've apologizedsufficiently for that over the years, but
it wasn't, I mean.
I don't know if it wasapology worthy, but.
A lot of the marketing buzzsurrounding this movie advertised it
(01:00:34):
as a combination of battleroyale and office space,
which is true only in the most literal,
generous sense of the word,
and that it's a movie about a killinggame that takes place in a corporate
office.
So that's it. That's the only.
Pretty much, it lacks both office spaces,
(01:00:56):
comedic satire and relatability.
And any sense of creativityor flare it flare is,
I'm talking about officespace, pieces of flare,
but it doesn't have any of flare orimpressive kills that Metal Royal had.
And one of the issues of this movie,
(01:01:20):
and this was another thing that made meIll advised in my excitement to see it,
is the involvement of James Gunn whowrote and produced this movie but didn't
actually direct it. And at the time,
James Gunn was just coming off ofbeing the director of Guardians
of the Galaxy,
(01:01:40):
which to date is the onlyMarvel movie that I can enjoy.
Yeah.
Fair. I can expect that.
So he had that going for him. Andon a more personal note for me,
he had also writtenthe script at the time,
recently releasedgreatest video game about
(01:02:05):
a cheerleader killing zombieswith a chainsaw of all time,
lollipop Chainsaw, the remakefor which is releasing.
Next week, by the way. So staytuned for my thoughts on that. Nice.
And so I went into this expecting fun,
comedic horror and
(01:02:31):
some.
Trivia behind this. James Gunn wrotethe script for this back in 2007,
and he stepped away from directing itor having anything to do with it because
it was his personallife issues at the time.
I think he was going through a divorceor death in the family or something.
So it was shelved for about a decade,
(01:02:51):
and some studio asked him to revive it.
And John didn't have time to direct themovie himself because at this point,
he was one of the Marvel people.He was making more money than God,
but
he did agree to produce itand extensively maintain
(01:03:11):
full creative control.
There's some debates on how muchcreative control he actually
had or more accuratelybothered to exercise.
And he handed directorduties to Greg McLean,
whose most famous movie at the timewas a horror movie called Wolf Creek,
(01:03:32):
which I'm also is from Australia.
And I'm tentatively thinking of addingit to my repertoire just to see if
maybe he did something better thanthis. I wanted to give him a shot.
I love Wolf Creek, butit's brutal. It's brutal.
So that leads into some of thediscussion that I read over
(01:03:55):
where this movie went wrong,Belco experiment, not Wolf Creek.
So general consensus on TV tropes,
which is where I get arguably far toomuch of my information on fandom reaction
to things,
is that Cleen made the mistake of
playing the script that Gunn wroteas a horror comedy too straight.
(01:04:20):
And I can definitely seethe argument for that.
This is a very sell premise with a moviethat takes itself way too seriously and
isn't competent enough to pull it off,
which is a problem we run into witha lot of movies on this podcast.
But that's differentconversation for a different day.
But that theory has some holes init for me, because for one thing,
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James Gunn also made Bright Burn. And.
While I'd be hard pressed to call thatmovie the greatest movie of all time,
it's also a.
Horror movie with a very sillypremise that takes itself seriously.
And it was so much better than this.
(01:05:07):
Yeah. Rayburn is legitimate. I It's scary.
Yeah. Yeah.
It is arguably one of the besttakes on the what if Superman,
but evil trope. I put itup there with Red Sun.
Which I would love to see adaptedincidentally. That'd be awesome.
(01:05:31):
But overall.
Just my dislike for this moviejust mostly comes from the wasted
potential.
The characters aren't developed orinteresting enough to work from the Office
Comedy Angle and the Killsaren't interesting enough
for the horror angle,
(01:05:52):
a death game taking place in a corporateoffice building, I expect, well, okay,
there's one guy that gets murdered witha tape dispenser, but other than that,
it's mostly just people shootingeach other. That's boring.
Yeah.
That doesn't sound so creative whenyou have an entire office space to work
with.
Yeah. Well, it felt likethe office was incidental.
(01:06:15):
Yes. It could have been anywhere.
And my recollection is theystart trying to, they tell 'em,
you have to kill half of the 80people or something like that.
So they start looking.
At basically, you have to killtwo people, or we'll kill four,
and then you have to kill 20people, or we'll kill four, or no,
it's kill 40 people. Or we'llkill, I don't know. But either way,
(01:06:35):
there's like 20 people leftin the climax of the movie,
and it turns into a massive battle royale.
And if you do that with Dilbert office,
Spacey tropes, will youplease just send an email
scheduling meetings? That could be emails.
(01:06:55):
You could have fun with that while he'sbeating him with a mouse or something
like that. But it just didn't,
it took itself too seriously.And it played it to,
you felt bad for the characters.
They weren't walkingoffice or coworker tropes.
Maybe not the one played by Dr.Cox. He was pretty terrible.
(01:07:22):
But that's the other thing too.John c McGinley is so funny.
Dr. Cox was great.
He's Stan is Stan versusStan Against Evil. And that,
oh, that deserves so muchmore than it got season wise.
That is, especially the first seasonor two are funny. It's all Get Out.
(01:07:46):
And I was expecting so muchmore from him, and he's doing,
McGinley is doing the besthe can with the script, but
they just got him andeverybody to play it too.
It felt like it was trying toohard, sort of across the board.
They had a premise that needed comedyand they did not put comedy in it.
(01:08:09):
And I know that I'm normally superpredisposed toward comedy and
me expecting to find comedyand not getting as a problem I have with a bunch of
stuff, but I feel like thisis one more that's warranted.
Well, that was the entiremarketing pitch of the film.
Hey, hey,
this is by the same guy that wrote thatsilly movie about the raccoon that made
(01:08:30):
all the money.
Want to see him do officespace, but with murder.
And I still want to seethat that's not what we got.
So.
I take it rewatching it didnot change your opinion at all.
(01:08:51):
No, no.
It did not.
There are some scenes toward the endwhere they're picking who lives and does
That actually made me alot more uncomfortable than when I watched it the first.
Time, but not really in agood way, just kind of in a,
well, why am I watching this kind of way?
(01:09:14):
And it feels like,especially toward the end,
that they're trying to makesome social commentary.
And that could have been poignantand entertaining if they had
just done two or three more drafts.
But as.
It stands.
This movie just did not work for me. Yeah,
(01:09:37):
that's a.
Shame.
Yeah.
Well, it makes sense that thedirector also did Wolf Creek,
because Wolf Creek is completely
fastball down the middle. It's brutal.
It's torture porn. But youknow that going into it. No,
it's not throwing you a curveball at all. It's that intense.
(01:10:03):
This couldn't pick a lane. Yeah.
No.
So yeah, motion picture to.
Scale.
I'm giving it a two because I could seethe second half where everything starts
unraveling, genuinely freaking out.
Someone who isn't intohorror and was expecting
(01:10:23):
something a bit sierbased on the marketing,
but even that's being pretty generous.
You kind of have to care for thecharacters to be scared for them.
And this movie does not giveyou the opportunity to do that.
Quality three, nothing wrong withit from a technical standpoint,
but it's just kind of meh andenjoyment. I'm giving it a two.
(01:10:45):
I had a really hard timegetting through this.
Not to the point that itmakes me angry and I try to
save ones for movies thatgenuinely make me angry.
But this goes beyondjust not being for me,
because I honestly have ahard time imagining anybody.
Liking this. Yeah.
(01:11:07):
Fair enough.
Yeah.
I don't remember a lot of people talkingpositively out of it as we were walking
out of the theater. Apparently.
There were people in the theater besides.
Us were there.
Maybe that's why I don't remember anybodytalking about it. Well, part of that.
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Is because it came out in thesame week as Beauty and the Beast.
So there were tons of peoplethere to see that bad live action
remake of Beauty of theBeast with Emma Watson.
So there were tons of peoplethere to see that before.
And we were the only three peopleseeing the Belco experiment to the
point that the ticketperson gave us a weird look.
(01:11:51):
Okay, now is ringing Capel.Yes, he eyeballed us.
You're going to see thathe looked at him. We,
and there were throngs of Disneypeople that had just gone through in
front of us in a whole line.
Of, and other guy was anadmittedly impressive beast,
cosplay that probably looked betterthan the beast in that movie,
(01:12:16):
I.
Remember this and I had tolook it up. I was right.
This came out around thesame time that Mayhem did
and another office.
And so Mayhem was the onethat I loved and I kept
relating mayhem to Belcoexperiment. And I would see their
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cover art and I'd be like, oh, is thisBelco? And it's like, no, that's Mayhem.
It's very similar premises. And it.
Has.
Steven Win, which is one ofmy favorite, favorite actors.
That's the one with the lawyerthat has the disease that Rick your
impulse control or something, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
(01:12:58):
Because when I was doing my research,
I was also looking for other moviesthat did office horror better
and real debatable on whetherI found any that were better.
But Mayhem is one of the ones thatcame up, so yeah, I read about it.
Mayhem is better.
Okay. Another one I saw was,let me see if I can find it.
(01:13:20):
Oh, is it Office Uprising?
Yep. Yep. The zombiesin an Office basically.
Yep.
Well, not really zombies, butlike the Rage 28 days later type.
Yeah. Rage, whatever it is. Yeah.
I also have this vaguerecollection of a YouTube video of
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Jigsaw if he were yourcoworker, like the Doll.
And I remember that beingfunny as all Get Out. Yes.
They did. What if Jigsawwas your roommate? What if Jigsaw was your coworker?
It was a whole series and it's hilarious.
Yeah, yeah. No, the coworker oneis the one that I remember. Scary.
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All of which were better experiment. Yes.
Alrighty. Do we want to spin the wheelor are we feeling good about next week?
I already have one for next week.
So I do too.
I already have one for nextweek too, and I still have,
if I could do trivia again.I've got so much for trivia.
If you guys want me to do itagain, but if you would like it,
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that is totally cool too.
Sure. I mean, I've got a few that I needto feel like I need to avenge myself.
So Yeah, go ahead. UnlessGreat, you want to do it?
I will find some eventually. That willprobably not be next week though, so one.
Y'all go Sweet.
Fair enough.
Alrighty. Well if you're still listening,give us a shout out on Threads.
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I deleted our Twitteraccount. It felt very good.
Yay.
And the first time I tried to deleteit, it said, something's gone wrong.
Try again later. And I'm like,
nice try. And I just buttonmatched until it let me delete it.
But give us a shout out onFriends. Oh, we send our.
Viewers, us an email grams. Now,
(01:15:17):
I don't know what X calls retweet,
so I'm just going toinsist that they're grams.
It's a gram. Absolutely.
Follow us on Letterboxed andtell your friends, say, Hey,
they're moving to Fridays.Fridays are Friday. Then.
They'll say, Friday, Friday,who's moving to Fridays?
What the hell are you talkingabout? Are you possessed?
(01:15:37):
Do you have the brain worms?
Then you say, yes, but also theseguys imported word. Check them out.
So I feel like I owe Gradyan explanation because he
popped into, I.
Logged on almost immediatelyafter you sent the link.
I saw some drama happening.
Oh, was it Ozzy drama?
It was not. No. It was my wife.
So I send the link, Iget the headphones in,
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and I'm in a recording booth. Right.I teach podcasting at a university,
so it's a semi legit setupand I'm in the zone. Right.
You have a built thingbehind you. It's very.
Fancy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very fancy.
And I feel like I put myheadphones on and everything,
and all of a sudden there's avoice right in my ear. I did it.
(00:52):
She meant she got Roz to sleep becauseshe's been a little extra fussy
and likes to bounce up and thenrun to one end of the crib going
and then running to the otherend of the crib. Loose subway,
ambulatory babies do. Right?Exactly. That's normal. That's fine.
But don't come up rightin my ear. Whisper.
(01:17):
I did it.
So I naturally jump three feetin the air, which I'm like five.
Five. So that's proportionatelylike Mario. Yeah.
Presumably cleaning to theceiling like a cat. Yes.
(01:39):
And I look at her.
Like, what the fuck did I do to you?
I didn't know who it was. Ididn't know what was happening.
And she's laughing and shesays, you watch all this scary,
spooky shit all the time. And I said,yeah, when I'm looking at the tv,
the TV's not behind me.
(01:59):
That's amazing.
You realize the next timewe're over at your house,
we're absolutely going todo the same thing to you.
And enough time will go by that you'llhave forgotten this conversation and
it'll be a nice shock.
(02:35):
Welcome to Imported Horror.
This is the podcast that brings youthe very best of homicidal coworkers,
arboreal creatures.
Stop motion relics and milk from Beyond
the Shining Seas, please. I'm Marcus.
I'm here with my co-hosts whoare both working for the weekend.
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Melissa and Grady.
Let that one pass by.
Friday. It's Friday. Friday,we've got to get done on Friday.
Stop. Obviously,
there's some really fun covers ofthat song on YouTube. Incidentally,
they take it in a totallydifferent direction. But yeah,
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we're taking with our schedule.
As we're doing our episodes onFriday, that took way too long.
Yeah, I didn't get thateither. And also, wow. Yeah,
working for what other.
Working for the weekend, the.
Covers of the song. Howcould it have different.
(03:43):
Two different songs? So there'sFriday, Friday by Rebecca Black.
Yeah.
And then working for the Weekend is thatfamous eighties song that nobody knows
who sang it, but everybody knows allthe words because of Chris Farley.
Okay. Okay. All right.Oh, poor Rebecca Black.
I mean, yeah. No, she didNot Deserve, yeah. Yeah.
(04:05):
But there are really cool coversof that song out there. So.
There.
Are, anyway,
this week I've got AustralianCreature feature Carnifex on
Tubi.
Brady's got the Belco experiment fromthe US and Colombia on VOD and the
Prime evils, which Ididn't realize was out.
(04:27):
I'm really stoked to talk about that.
And quick correction. BelcoExperiment is also on Tubi.
Oh, sweet. Ooh.
I am totally saying that becauseI had spoilers for my review.
No one should pay to watchthe Belco experiment.
And Melissa is doing a movie called Milk,
(04:49):
and I'm assuming it's not the queerpolitical drama starring Sean Penn,
but IMD, imdb and I are bothvery confused and got nothing.
No.
I thought it was, and I thought,wow, that's Canadian. And also, wow,
that story must be a lotdarker than I thought it was,
and I already thought it was pretty dark.
It is a horror short from my newfavorite website, short verse.
(05:12):
I'll never get enough of it.
That makes considerable more sense. Yes.
And we're still tinkering.We're always tinkering.
We're always toying with stuff.
So new schedule and maybe new featurethat we're trying out for the second
episode. So Melissa, youKen has trivia for us.
(05:35):
I Ken has trivia. Okay,so we have a couple here,
and I think I'm going to do two of them.
And there are reasons why I pickedboth of them that you'll figure out.
But we all know thatNight of the Living Dead,
the original George Romero got me intohorror, one of my favorite movies.
(05:57):
Here's a question for you guys.
What are the zombies referredto as in Night of the Living
Dead?
Oh, I know this.
It's not zombie. They don'tactually say the Z word.
I would make it a trivia question.I would make it a multiple choice,
(06:17):
but now I know if I do that,you're going to get it. Oh.
Yeah. No, it's right there. And it'snot dead eye either. I know that.
No.
Nope.
Walker's was The Walking Dead.
Yep.
(06:41):
I can hear Joe Bob Briggs sayingit and talking about this.
He did Night of the Living Dead.
And there's a little followup to that one. It's not, no.
So there's a little follow up to this one,
and it's not going to bethe second trivia question,
but it's kind of justa trivia within this,
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what George Romero zombie film didthey first utter the word zombie?
That's probably the one in the mall.
Night of the Living Deadtwo. The search for George.
It's the one in the mall.It's one of the dead 1978.
(07:25):
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
I can tell you that it wasshot outside of Pittsburgh.
I can tell you that George Romerogot his start working on Mr. Rogers
neighborhood. I can tell you that.
I can tell you that the nightof the Living Dead is public
domain due to a massivefuck up by their lawyers.
(07:48):
And if zombies hadn't been public domainas soon as they'd have been invented,
we'd have a very differenthorror escape than we do now.
So that's kind of neat.
I'll give you a hint.
Yeah.
There is a video game that just had a
series released that hasto do with that video game.
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It's a horror video game,I guess you could say.
And that particular video gamehas the same word that they
call their monsters.
Does it count as a hint if it'smore complicated than the original.
Questions? No. No
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follower?
No.
I don't remember. It's rightthere, but I'm not going to get it.
It starts with a G.
The garners? No, the Goonies.No, that doesn't make any sense.
I'm ashamed for evensuggesting that I'm ashamed.
(09:03):
Yeah, I got nothing. Oh, I knew that.
And now do you know the videogame that I'm referring to?
I actually don't.
And now I'm blanking on the name.
The nuclear war one fall is Fallfallout. Thank you. Fallout.
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Okay. Fallout. Yes.
They're called ghouls. The peoplethat have been affected by radiation.
Yeah, they're basically,
they're not like zombies in how wethink of zombies in other media.
They just look really gross becausetheir skin's all mutated and otherwise
they're normal if kind of Jack Cassie.
(09:50):
Yep. But they do refer to them as schools,
or I guess the gul, the singular one,
but I think that they referto more of them as GULs.
Yeah, no, there are whole species.
I'm remembering.
Well, not species, but there'ssignificantly more than one of 'em.
Excellent. So yeah. So in thesequel, the Dawn of the Dead,
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which is where theyactually first say zombies,
they do that because there'sa character from Trinidad,
and that is the first person in themovies to refer to the creature of Zombie
because based on the stories fromhis grandfather who was practitioner
and knowledge of voodoo zombies.
Yeah, it all has roots in Haitianand Caribbean folklore and
(10:35):
some of the old schools not likeWhite Zombie, the whole notion,
it's more similar to Frankensteinthan Romero ultimately.
And the monster hasevolved quite a bit. No,
I should have known that. Thatwas good. That's a good one.
It's a hard one, right?
Yep.
Alright, so I have another one thatI will give you multiple choice.
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I don't think either of you are goingto know this because this trivia is
real like trivia. Not a lot ofpeople have talked about this,
but I think it's really cool.
So what appliance,
or I should say,
what object did severalcast and crew members
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demand to be removed from theirhotel rooms during the filming
of the exorcism of Emily Rose? Coffee,
pots, TVs, the Bible, or radios?
Well, the Bible's not an appliance,and that's kind of a weird request.
(11:41):
Is it? If you're doingsomething about exorcism.
I mean, yeah,
you might want one on hand actually.
Trying.
I've never actually seenthe exorcism of Emily Rose,
so I'm trying to think of what I knowof that movie through pop culture,
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osmosis.
And what would make sense fromthat movie that would skive out
the cast and crew enough thatthey wouldn't want to look at one.
In a hotel room? Their hotel rooms.
In the hotel rooms during.
The filming. Okay, so tv,
microwave and radio.
(12:25):
It was coffee pot, tv,radio or Bible. Okay.
The radio doesn't make a lot of senseunless it's filmed somewhere in Eastern
Europe and they just allcome with radios. But.
I think I'm going to gowith Coffee Pot. Okay,
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great. I'm going to go withTV just as a one in four.
Chance shot in the dark.
Okay. You are both wrong.It is the radio really.
Scott Derickson, thedirector of Exorcism of
Emily Rose,
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confirmed that the film's lead actorJennifer Carpenter's radio would
inexplicably turn on in the middleof the night while they were filming.
So not only did that happento Carpenter, but the CoStar,
Laura Linney also experiencedsome paranormal activity.
Her radio would turn on threeor four times during the night.
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And so they have removed,
they requested the radios be removedbecause it freaked them out so bad because
here they were filming theexorcism of Emily Rose.
So this is try to sleep do with aparticularly spooky radio related scene
in the exorcism.
This was just either anelectrical short or a hotel
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employee fucking with them.
Yep. Okay.
Oh, you mean like the little alarmclock radio things by the day? Oh,
that makes more sense. No, thosedamn things, every time I travel,
they go off. The first night,
I was at a conference in Philadelphia acouple of weeks ago and was four 30 in
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the morning.
The damn thing just goes off andthere was nothing paranormal about it.
It was because that was the previousperson in the room had set that alarm and
then just hadn't clearedit. But I'm groggy,
just caveman slapping it,trying to make it stop.
So apparently to a couple of times
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when it would come on,
it would be in a section of Pearl Jamsong Alive where they would just be
singing the phrase, I'malive, I'm still alive,
I'm still alive over and over again.
And I have to think that what probablyhappened with that is that may have been
an intro song, a radiostation used or whatever,
and it went off at the same timeevery day or every night, but
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Or somebody missing radios. Yeah, exactly.
Jennifer Carpenter and Laura.
I would not want to messwith those two women new.
They're incredible horror icons,but it would've been really funny.
If that's the case,
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I've got a bunch more,
but I'm going to save thembecause they're all really good.
I hope that those twowere kind of fun and.
They.
Gave you a little insight intotwo different things about movies.
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So we got three importedhorrors dropping this week,
and one that I missed that I wantto go back to September, October,
are both going to be busy, busy, busy.
So buckle up and there are a couple ofrecurring themes in the ones we're going
to talk about today.See if you can spot 'em.
The first, which actually I don't thinkis part of either of the running themes,
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dropping on VOD on Friday, September 6th.
This is the Well from Italy,
a budding art restorer travels toa small Italian village to bring a
medieval painting backto its former glory.
Little does she know she's placing herlife in danger from an evil curse and a
monster born of myth and brutal pain.
(16:31):
So the art restorer in question isplayed by Scream Queen extraordinaire,
Lauren Lara of Terrifi two fame. This one,
one looks like fun to me. It lookedlike it didn't take itself too.
Seriously. I
kind of hope it doesn'tbecause I will admit that.
The scary Well paintingmonster looks a little
(16:55):
too much like Golum from Lord of theRings for me to take it seriously.
Once you see that, you cannot see.
That's true. I can see that. Yeah.
So whether it's good or not, Ihave to see it because of course,
the first comment under the YouTubetrailer was somebody going, ah,
(17:19):
another female protagonist in a horrormovie. So just for you commenter,
I'm going to make sure Iwatch this so many times.
Watch that be the director underan alias that's just trolling you.
Yes. I want them to watchit with all the ladies.
That sounded so much less creepyin my head than when I said it.
(17:43):
Out loud.
I wasn't going to sayanything, but okay. Okay.
And it's Italian, so your heritage,you sort of have to watch it.
I do, yeah. It's kind of a necessity.
This kind of interests me too,because one of my side hustles,
(18:06):
and I know it's a different skillsetcompletely from restoring old paintings,
is I digitally restore old photographs.
And I can absolutely see howrestoring old paintings or photographs
could work as an angle for a horror movie.
Kind of like archeology in a weird way.
(18:27):
You're unearthing and reconstructingthe past and maybe you reconstruct
something you shouldn't.
Yep, absolutely.
So it's freaky. I remember itbeing honestly pretty scary.
But there's a movie called The CanalThere for Ireland where at least
part of it is the guy who's workingas an old classic film restorer and
(18:51):
digitizer because a lot ofthose old physical films,
they weren't meant to last decades anddecades. And so they start to degrade.
And so he's one of the guys working fora film commission that restores it and
then digitizes it. And yeah,he starts to see some stuff.
That's really cool. By the way, Grady,I didn't know you did that. Yeah.
(19:12):
Like a super cool talent
and yeah, you could make a lot ofgood money from that, can't you?
Especially now,
people probably want theirphotos restored quite often.
And.
To be clear,
what I do mostly just kind amountsto scanning old photographs and
(19:36):
touching them up in Photoshopas best I can to make them.
Not look faded and old and.
Damaged.
So it's not, like I said, not.
Quite the same as taking an oldpainting and doing the same thing
physically.
Cleaning it, but it's a thing that's.
(19:58):
Super cool. I have to send you a TikTok.
There is somebody ordered a Temu,
a temu blanket or something.Temu is like, wish,
you know how they say thewish version of something?
It's the same thing. Temuis like you pay tiny,
(20:21):
tiny little bit of money andyou get something in return.
So it's a weird chop. Everybody elsewill know what I'm talking about.
Emily will know what I'm talking about.
Anyway, I have no idea.
What you're.
All about.
Yeah.
So she sent in old, it's this oldfamily photo, like an online shop thing,
and I know about the human rightsabuses, but that's about it.
(20:44):
So she sent this family photothat she wanted to be put on
a blanket, and it looked goodup until you got to the faces,
and it looked like somebody justkind of tried to draw in the faces,
but they didn't know how to draw.And it turned out terrifying.
(21:04):
And I kind of love it. So Igot to send you that TikTok.
I'm thinking of that guy that drewa smiley face on the Mona Lisa.
That's basically like a budgetpainting restorer kind of deal.
I forget what show, butjust it did not go well.
(21:25):
No. Oh man.
Well, also on the sixth,this time on Shutter,
we have the demon disorder from Australia.
Tells the story of Graham Jake andPhilip Riley and their deceased
father, their past pasts collide.
(21:51):
Their lives collide. No,that's not the same thing.
Their pasts collide when afamily's secret is discovered
leading their father's garage to becomethe site of revenge from beyond the
grave. Now, I could go back and editthat, but I'm not going to do that.
That's fair. You listen.
(22:13):
Our people know who we are.
I love that they see us warts and all.
Well, I just got an email from astudent saying, hello, professor Frank.
I'm totally going to callyou that from now on.
That is the only thing I'm going tocall you ever from this day forward.
(22:37):
Professor Frank, now.
Amazing.
In his, I hesitate to say defense.
My phone is Autocorrectedfunk to Frank before,
so that might not havebeen completely his fault.
Oh, okay. Fair enough. Fair.
Enough. I am still going to callyou Professor Frank from that one.
(22:59):
Oh yeah. So this one,
I feel like this is thestart of the theme, right?
So is it like dads arethe theme fatherhood.
Bad dads? Yes.
Bad dads. Okay. So it was funny, Iwas trying to figure out the theme.
So I watched the first one and then Iwatched the second one and I'm like,
is the theme demons? And then Iwatched the third one and I'm like, oh,
(23:22):
it's daddy issues.
I was way off.
What'd you think?
I thought it was mid twothousands neoconservative hunting accidents that aren't
actually accidents also.
Yes.
Yes.
Not sure where the paintingrestore fit into that,
(23:43):
but I was kind of doing someNPO nippo calisthenics there.
Dick Cheney would like a word.
Oh God.
But yeah, bad dad. Lots of bodyhorror. This has a good reputation.
It was mentioned of the BloodyDisgusting podcast recently,
(24:04):
and it definitely looks intense.
The weld looks like it probablydoesn't take itself too seriously.
It might even go a little bit farin the opposite direction. This,
they would call this elevated horror.
Yeah.
I could see that.
I had a difficult time seeing that.
And I kind of realized somethingabout myself watching this trailer.
(24:27):
And I don't know if it's a good thing,
but I'm going to hash it out herein this private publicly broadcast
podcast with my friends.
It is very difficult for me to takeanything with an Australian accent
seriously.
And I'm worried about what that says aboutme and my attitude towards Australia.
(24:47):
And also I was watching these trailers
in the same room as my parents who werewatching TV and an Outback Steakhouse
commercial came on right at the sametime that I was watching this trailer,
which did not help. That's incredible.
My point is,
this whole time I was expecting one ofthem to threaten to sneak up on that
(25:08):
demon and jam a thumb up. Its butthole.
Yeah.
Yeah. I, and.
Maybe that happens. I don't know.
That is an old South Park referencefor those of you that didn't get it,
so that you don't think I'm insane.Speaking of mid two thousands.
References.
(25:31):
We'll always reference South.
Oh, earlier than that. This was like anineties. This was nineties South Park.
I thought early was old. This.
Is.
Second season. Oh, Ithought it was the Russell.
Crow episode.
No.
Yeah, not.
Oh.
Okay. Was it first season? Ithought it was first season.
Maybe it was second season. Shoot.
(25:52):
It had to have been when Steve Irwinwas still alive because that's what they
were.
Thinking. So then probablythe second season rather,
or first season, anyway.
I'm going to sneak right up on themand jam my thumb up. Its butthole.
And in fairness, theAustralian sense of humor,
(26:14):
a lot of them would thinkthat was really funny.
I think don't want to speakfor an entire nation. But.
Anyway,
my point is I may have a little bit ofa bias when it comes to Australia and
that may not be a good thing.
Fair.
Enough. And so I have a movie for you.
(26:35):
Let's bookmark that thoughtbecause the movie I did this week,
big check mark for everything youjust said, and it's fantastic. Okay,
love it. Also,
keeping with Bad dads on the sixth on VOD
betrayal from the United Kingdom,
(26:56):
three brothers returned to the remotewoodland where they killed their abusive
father only to discover his shower grave.
What is wrong with me?
I love that. It's like theepisode that we really.
Choose not to edit it. Well, I mean,
(27:17):
I used to listen to Every Minute Grace,
the shower grave ofDoctor of Professor Frank.
I used to listen to every minute ofthis and I would edit and trim and
everything that it took forever.And at some point I was like,
why am I doing this?
I'll just bookmark the times whenMelissa goes to do full blown Miss Andry,
(27:39):
and I'll cut that out. Call a day. Yeah.
But usually I can also talk. So.
The Shower grave of Professor Franksounds like an AI generated horror title.
Honestly, it sounds like atub movie that I would watch.
I might ask ai, ask to write a script.
(28:01):
Let's see what happens.
Do.
It. Sure. Why.
Not?
Three brothers returned to the remotewoodland where they killed their abusive
father only to discoverhis shallow grave is now
empty,
forcing them to question one another'sloyalty with devastating consequences as
fear and paranoia set in.
(28:27):
So this is a good reputation.
I mean.
Bad dad.
Yeah.
Bad dad.
I am guessing that the dad turnsout to be a zombie or revenant of
some kind and probablyway off, but we will see.
Yeah. Yeah. I dunno. The IMDBreviews were pretty wild.
(28:50):
I would assume this will hitstreaming somewhere at some point.
I thought it was a shutter release.
I thought they had the shutter logoin there. But when I went back,
when I went back and watched itagain, I did not see the shutter logo.
So I think I'm wrong.
About that Demon disorder. Andthe other one we're doing both do.
So you might have just gotten conflated.
(29:12):
Yeah, I think so. So theother one, late August,
our friends in the Great White Northgave us another wilderness horror.
And this is the other tie into the theme.
Adam McDonald,
who directed Backcountry and Piewhack is returning for another.
Don't go into the Woods Talecalled Out Come The Wolves.
(29:35):
And the Bloody Disgustingpodcast mentioned this one too.
They said McDonald considers thispart three of a wilderness horror
trilogy with those other two.And it stars Missy Pergram,
who was also in Backcountryand Backcountry was a
very scary movie. That really.
(29:57):
Very scary movie.
It was, yeah. No, it was. It reallywas. It scared the crap out of me.
So realistic predatory bearattacks do happen from time to time
and just the circumstances andeverything, it really shook me.
I loved it and also hatedit because oh my God.
(30:21):
But wolves don't attack people, soI'm a little suspicious of this one.
I think something else might be going on.
Again, the wolves are ametaphor. YouTube comments.
Yeah.
Yes. That would be.
My.
The first
(30:42):
comment was friend zoned the movie.
I mean.
So was there just a raging misogynistwatching all the same trailers as you at
the exact same time?
Apparently.
Okay.
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But I feel like that's at leasta little accurate based on what I
thought of the trailer.
Well, they definitely set that up.
And Backcountry had someelements of that too,
where a different version of it couldhave turned into a slasher instead of
a killer pair movie trailerdefinitely wants you to think that.
(31:28):
But we've also seen some actualKiller Wolf movies before The
Gray, or
what was that terribleone that we watched with
one of the scars guards.
And Jeffrey Wright. You remember?
(31:54):
No, I'm thinking of Kevin's.
It'll come to me.
So who wants to go first?
Do you want to keep experimentingwith Australia, Grady?
Because I think youwould like Let's do that.
Australia. Let's do Australia.
(32:15):
Get all the Australiajokes out of our system.
Okay, so.
Hold the dark.
Thank you. Hold the dark.Yes, yes. I did not enjoy it.
I didn't think you did either.
No, no.
So I watched car effects from Australia
on Tuby IMDB summary,
(32:37):
an aspiring documentarian and twoconservationists venture into the
outback to record animalsdisplaced by bush fires.
What is a bush fire?Why am I so bad at this?
Well, and it's Australia, right?So is it bush fire or brush fire?
(33:01):
Oh, Bush fire makes much more sense.
So I didn't misspell it becauseI was thinking it was brush fire,
but then I didn't see an R. Is.
Marcus the she of the professor.
Be so bad night of the bus fire?
(33:26):
I'm a professional. Wedo professional things,
an aspiring documentarianand two conservationists
venture into the outback to recordanimals displaced by bush fires.
Why is that one word?
Shouldn't that be two differentwords where they discover
aPurifying new species, I think.
(33:51):
I mean, yeah, professional,
doing professional things. So anyway,
I saw this on a Saturday night. Emilyand Roz were asleep. I was tired.
I was in that weird neutral zone whereI didn't want to get too invested in a
movie and I didn't wantto watch a good movie,
(34:13):
but I also didn't want to waste my timewith a dumpster dive and watch a bad
movie.
And that's a real fine line to
walk. So
I went to Tubi as one does undersuch circumstances and Tubi
once again, scratch that itch real good.
(34:34):
And I appreciate that this hasthe heart and soul of a nineties
creature feature all the waydown to a shameless quote,
because of course they quotedthat guy. Of course they did.
It's beautiful.
The fox molder moment wherethe creature is really cool.
(34:54):
It's got a great sense of humor,
and the monster is in the words ofmolder within the realm of extreme
possibility.So it's fun. Get some popcorn,
get a beer. It's an Australian monstermovie. They shot it in the outback,
the scariest parts of the movie. Honestly,
(35:14):
there's at one point wherethe documentarian who's not accustomed to being out
in the woods in a tent,conservationists are,
and the documentarian is hearing allthese animals making these sounds that I'm
assuming they were actually making inreal life out there on the woods with this
just small team filming this movie.
And they're legitimatelyfreaky as all get like
(35:38):
koalas. They're adorable, right?They're super cute to look at.
They sound like theliteral spawn of Satan.
It took me a while to realize you weretalking about the animals making animals
sounds and not the documentariansmaking the animal sounds
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in the back while they were filming.
Why would anyone ever do that?
I don't know. That's why I was confused.
No, they had a camera.
They had actors in the outback and theyhad the actors responding to the real
life animal sounds, including a koala,
which legitimately sounds terrifying.And you're like, what the hell is that?
(36:23):
And is it going to kill me quicklyor slowly? And no, it's just a cute,
adorable little koala.
Insert joke about.
Australian wildlife here.
So yeah, I mean, yeah,it's that kind of movie.
It is a creature featurethat it feels very
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nineties. They shot it out in the outback.
The ending could have been a littlebit better, but it still worked for me.
The reviews really panned itbecause they said, oh, well,
the monster doesn't look good,and the CGI looks new. It's like,
it's a low budget monstermovie. What do you expect?
(37:09):
That's a completely unfaircriticism. And I thought, given
presumably this is a low budgetmovie, I didn't look it up.
But given those constraints,
the monster I thought wasreally clever and fun and looked
fine. It's not going to win any visualeffects awards, but it looks fine.
That just seems like areally unfair criticism.
(37:34):
As long as they didn't have ahairless Moby as a werewolf,
I'm okay with any other thing that anyof these movies wanted to do For a fact.
They did not. This was not where, no,
this was a better movieall around them where
the characters were likable.
The Fox Molder moment and themonster were genuinely cool.
(37:56):
The subtitles lagged a littlebit behind the dialogue,
and because they shot it out inthe Outback, it was literally dark.
Not figuratively dark, but literally dark.
So I wound up having to listen a littlemore carefully and watch a little more
closely than I would've really liked fora monster movie on Tuby. But even so,
(38:17):
it's fine.
That subtitle thing seems to bea problem with Tuby in general.
I ran into the same issue when Iwatched the Velco experiment. Yeah.
There's a couple of movies thatI watched that had that issue,
and then there are somethat it's on point.
So I don't know who does captions.
(38:40):
I would assume it's not the movie.
I.
Think I don't actually know.
Yeah, that's something I haven't beenmeaning to look into for a while,
especially for our thing, we haveto do subtitles for a lot of stuff
that feels like information. We shouldbe a little more conversant then.
(39:01):
I'm going to look into that. Yeah,that'd be great. Awesome. Next.
Time.
It comes up. I'm just curious.
Yeah. Well, and this, theymatched and their English,
they were speaking English,and even with the accent,
you can tell there weren't any translationissues, but they were just delayed,
which in the beginning is funbecause the beginning is just,
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you don't see the monster,
but it eats something and the thingis getting eaten because you see that.
And so the little subtitle with theparentheses monster crunching sounds
that pops up after the monstercrunching sounds begin.
And it's like reminding you, Hey, theseare monster crunching sounds. It's like,
yes, tub Me. I know. Thankyou. Very good job there.
What really annoys me iswhen subtitles spoil things.
(39:47):
There's one movie where, I can't remember,
it wasn't a very good movie, butit's one movie a few years ago,
but it spoiled the name of the antagonistand that something that a character
was dreaming about was a villain.
I think it was that video game one.I can't remember what it was called.
But anyway.
(40:07):
Oh, I think you're right.The one with Robert England.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know exactly. Yes. And it did. Yes.
It totally did. It totallydid. That was on Netflix.
That's going to drive me up the wall.
Well, and so it did thattoo. There was a couple,
and I want to say maybe thanksKilling It did that too,
(40:31):
because it had the voice ofthe killer and it said the
character's name blah blah with.I'm like, God damn it. Really?
Yeah.
Shoes or Die. Oh.
Yeah.
Totally did that.
But Car Fix was fun. I would say Grady,
(40:51):
for your particular predilection of notbeing able to take Australia seriously,
this is a great one because this moviedoesn't take itself seriously at all. And
it's not slap sticky, it'snot outright horror comedy,
but it's a fun monstermovie. It knows what it is.
It's leaning into it. It has fun.
I'm not going to say who they quote,
(41:14):
but you know who it's,
you're going to see the quotecoming from a mile away.
You're going to say it with the movieand you're going to love it. And.
I need to know.
The quote. You know the quote?You absolutely know the quote.
It's from the nineties apparently.Yes, very much from the nineties.
(41:35):
From the nineties. Awesome.
I think I gave it three starson Letterboxed. I liked it.
It's not really scary. Maybe aone, maybe a two, but it's a.
Put on the background movie.
Good. I don't want to think toomuch. I'm halfway on my phone,
but I'm watching this type ofthing. It was fun. I liked it.
(41:58):
Awesome. Grady,
did you want to go next ordid you want me to go next?
Well, I've got two moviesthat I'm going to talk about,
one of which is I enjoyed,
but it's not technicallyeligible for the podcast,
but it has some connections to thethings we've done that are eligible,
that are kind of neat thatI'm going to get into.
(42:20):
And then I have another movie that I amgoing to swing out with a golf club for
several minutes. So whydon't you go ahead and do.
Yours? Do you want to do this?
Okay, I can definitely do that.
So again, I have beenobsessed with short verse,
(42:41):
I can't get enough of these shorthorror movies, and I'm actually,
so it's expanding my
understanding of what I find horrifying,
what I think scares me the most.
And this really preyed on
the fact that something can feel normal,
(43:03):
something can feel every dayyou can be talking to a person,
but that person isn'twho you think they are.
And not everything is how it seems.
And it's that sitting inuncomfortableness that scares me the most.
So this movie's called Milk.
It's actually a staff pick from Vimeo.
(43:24):
It won a couple awards atSouth by Southwest. It's 2018,
it's by Santiago Menini.
And Little Synopsis is one late night,
a young teen goes into thekitchen for a glass of milk.
Upon encountering his sleepless mother,
he quickly realizes thingsare not as they seem.
So immediately one of the firstthings you notice about this movie
(43:47):
is you have a shot thatlooks like almost like
Alfred Hitchcock's the Birds.
There's a bunch of crows ona line and unassuming house,
and it just feels incredibly unsettling.You dunno why it's unsettling,
but it's unsettling. I lovedthis because when I went back,
I rewatched it with the directorand writer's commentary.
(44:11):
That's what they were going for.
The Alfred Hitchcock thingsare just a little bit
outside the realm of where they shouldbe and you're not really sure why.
And it starts off kind ofinnocently enough. I mean,
the kid goes downstairs, yousee the light on upstairs,
(44:31):
but you see that all the other lightsare off in the house and kid goes
downstairs grabs a milk carton.
Now this is one of thosethings where it's very obvious.
It was a very obvious, Hey, look at this.
But it's also something thatyou would see all the time.
This is obviously an older time,
and so you have the milk carton withthe missing on it and two pictures of
(44:53):
children.
Yes.
And why you can't really see thepictures. You're already like,
okay, it's centered in the frameenough where it feels uncomfortable.
And you kind of see a shadow behind
the kid and you don'treally know what it is.
(45:15):
And then it just kind of starts toget creepier and creepier to where
you have the mom who's talkingto the kid. And the first time,
the time the mom is talking to the kid,she yells at him, get a damn glass,
stop drinking right out of the carton.
Very something that Dan would doand everybody would do whatever.
(45:38):
And then it just starts,
she starts to sound a little weird.
And then you see her feet and herfeet are dirty. She's been outside.
And then from the otherside of the house you hear
his mother calling him. And
(46:01):
for that, for it being 10 minutes,
it felt like the longest time of not
knowing who was really the mom who was
there for him. Are theyboth? Maybe this is not,
and it just.
Why is the Dopel hanger such a stick?It was uncomfortable for using a glass.
(46:28):
And
there is some kind of bodyhorror in this in terms of
faces, and it pulls it off so well.
A lot of times I feel like when theydo the short films and indie films,
when they do horror makeup, it doesn'tlook right. It doesn't look great.
(46:48):
No,
this was done so well and shot sowell in the perfect lighting that
whoever that was, it terrified me.
And the themes here are justnot wanting your kid to grow up,
wanting to keep them as a child.
(47:12):
So the director talked about howhe kind of got the idea for this,
and he has a big family,
and he was there for the holidays anda couple of his cousins couldn't come.
And so it was like thatlonging of missing his cousins.
But he had gone downstairs in the middleof the night and his mother was on the
phone with I guess those cousins,
and she was whispering because she didn'twant to wake up the rest of the house.
(47:37):
But that eerie feeling of goingdownstairs, not knowing somebody's there,
and then somebody whisperingand your mother whispering,
and it just felt so surreal.
And that feeling of wherewe are not going to see
our cousins, are they going to grow up?
We're not going to seethem until next year.
And how much more grown will they be? And
(47:59):
the themes in this are interesting.
It doesn't necessarily have an ending
or even just a beginning.
It's more of just that 10 minutesof fear and it's very open to
interpretation. Even thoughthey have a solid last line,
(48:23):
you can interpret what happeneda number of different ways.
And I think that makes it scarier.
You can go back and rewatchit and kind of build your own
backstory as to what's going on.
And it's just that feeling of you'relooking at somebody and that person is
saying, no, don't go there.That's not who that is.
(48:44):
I am your mother. And having that otherperson saying, no, I'm your mother.
It creeped me out.
And the shots were perfect,
just the unassuming house,the perfect lighting,
just creepy as all hellbecause it felt so normal
(49:06):
until you hear the other voice.
So terror scale, honestly,
for a short film, it was a two.Because if I was watching this,
I don't think I would then go upstairsand get a glass of water or something in
the middle of the night, I got to say.
(49:28):
And to have so much packed in such a
short film.
I love when they do that because youcan tell so much story in 10 minutes
and you're either going to be effectiveat it or it's not going to work.
And this was incredibly effective.
And I don't think that itwould've worked as a longer movie.
(49:51):
He's got a bunch more that I want towatch that are on short verse because I do
like him as a director.
I think that the way that he filmsthings are really interesting.
And he actually, so the title sceneis water floating Right or Water
When you're looking at a lake and it'srippling and then it just has the title
(50:12):
there. He did that with bathtub,
put some dark towels on the bottom ofit, his bathtub, and he shot the water.
And then overlaid the and way hetalked about how he filmed some
of this stuff,
you would've thought he actually had ahuge budget because it was really good.
And no, it was just stupid stuff likethat. And that makes it even better.
(50:37):
He used what he had on handand he made it amazing.
So I have a feeling, yeah,
we're going to see a lot more fromhim and I hope some feature lengths.
Nice. Well, and that behind thescenes practical effects stuff,
you either get really excitedabout that and it's cool,
or it stresses you out like nothing else,
(50:59):
and you just want to go to the computer.
And I just love the idea of a coupleof people sitting around with a camera
going, all right, howare we going to do this?
And somebody just tosses towelsin a bathtub like that kind of
DIY really works for me. AndI hope when that's a fun,
positive experience.It can be really cool,
(51:21):
just like any other working environment.When it's toxic, it's toxic.
But this sounds like it was a lot of fun.
Well, and I have to saytoo, listening to him,
so I watched him do a whole
voiceover and talk about how hedirected the movie and everything,
(51:41):
and he goes shot by shot andlistening to him talk about it,
you can see that this was his passionand he was so excited about these
different cool things that he wasable to do and how they looked.
And he is like, oh, doesthat shot look cool?
And so you could tell it's a passion,
and I think that's where you get themost effective horror movies out of
somebody who actually has apassion for making it look
(52:06):
and feel the way you want it to.
Yeah, yeah. Really the most effective,anything for that matter. But yeah,
definitely horror.
Yeah.
So Milk 2018 on short verse, go watch it.
Cool. All right.
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So I did.
All Grady, are we going to getthe good first or the bad first?
I think I know which one is.
First. Wait,
I'm going to do the good one firstbecause it's going to be considerably
shorter. It is nothing about,
it's actually forum per se, so I don'twant to spend too much time on it.
(52:48):
First one I did is the Primevals,
which was released in 2023,
despite the fact that the writing andfilming initially started in the late
sixties. So the premise,
this is from Wikipedia, after aYeti is killed by a group of Sherpa,
a team of university scientists travelto Nepal to find the origins of the
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creature teaming up with a rugged tracker,
the group set out to the Sherpa Village,and after a large avalanche discover,
a hidden primeval wind populated byprehistoric creatures, ancient hominids,
and an alien reptilian species.
I did not realize until I started readingthis out loud how spoilery that was,
but whatever.
(53:36):
Anyway, so this movie was apassion project of David Allen.
He was a prolific stop motionanimator, special effects artists,
did tons of stuff in theseventies and eighties,
the creature designing specialeffects for Ghostbusters one and two,
the stop motion for the Giant InsectsAnd Honey I Shrunk Kids Most relevant to
(53:59):
our podcast.
He was the effects guy for thefirst three Subspecies movies.
Noise. He's.
The man that animated thefinger denotes finger.
Demons. Okay, well then he'sincredible. That's all I'm.
Going to say. Pretty one.
Yep. Soon as I found that out,
(54:20):
that was my entire justification fortalking about the movie on the podcast.
Otherwise, I was just going to leaveit at Watch The Primevals. It's neat.
No, you had to do that. You hadto talk about it. It's important.
Absolutely. Absolutely. So he startedwriting this in the late sixties.
It's one of the very first filmprojects that he started on,
and he kind of kept coming back toit off and on for several decades,
(54:44):
just getting a studio to fund it,
and then losing that funding andjust doing some of it on his own and
got a bunch of,
most of the scenes with actors andstuff were filmed in the mid nineties,
so he was able to get a lot ofthe non effect shots done then.
(55:04):
But ultimately, unfortunately,he died in 1999,
and he left the stop motion puppets,the already film sequences, the scripts,
storyboards, just everything toone of his colleagues, Chris Kott,
who struggled for years to finda way to complete it until he
started an Indiegogo campaign in 2018,
(55:25):
which is where I had first heard of this.
I had heard about this beforeyou told me about it, Marcus.
And I remember seeing the Indiegogocampaign thinking, oh, okay, that's neat.
They don't do stop motion anymore.
And then I never really thoughtabout it again until you sent me the
trailer last week, Marcus. Iwas like, oh yeah, that thing.
(55:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bloodydisgusting. Had an article about it.
I didn't realize it was out already, but.
Just came out last week, I think,or just came onto demand last week.
I know.
I think it did some film festivalcircuits last year in 2023,
the release date on it.
(56:08):
But it just came to streamingon video, on demand,
and on Amazon a week or two agoas it was recording, I think.
Okay. But anyway.
Movie Really neat Effects,
thought it was worth talking about justdue to the connections to Full Moon
(56:30):
Studios and the SubspeciesFinger demon guy. Oh, yeah.
Writing wise,
you can kind of tell that thiswas pasti of several different
drafts over several decades,
and it's definitely the kind of moviethat would've been an amazing cult
classic if it had come up closerto when he first came up with it.
(56:53):
But nowadays, it showsits age a little bit. And
if you're going into thisexpecting a more modern grizzly
stop motion horror, this won'tnecessarily scratch that itch.
But if you come into it expectinga good goofy seventies and eighties
(57:15):
style adventure movie slashcreature feature, this is.
A good one.
Okay.
Well, and I love that backstory too.
It reminds me of Mad God on Shutter,
which different special effects guy,
but sort of a similar story where hejust worked on it off and on for decades,
(57:35):
and that is terrifying.
That is a trippy as hell fever dream that
is horrifying. Stop motion,brilliantly done, genuinely scary.
This sounds a lot moredigestible, a lot easier.
I'll say the zing of thestop motion creatures is
(57:57):
on point.
The Eddie admittedly looks a littlebit Rankin bass for my taste,
but the alien creatures and some of theother things that show up in the second
half of the movie,
those might creep youout if Stop motion's,
the kind of thing thatcreeps you out. Nice.
Fair enough. I love that.
(58:19):
Makes me want to go back and rewatch stop.
Motion.
Oh God, I loved that movie.
That was a good one.Yeah. And this one is too,
let's get to the.
Yeah, had to get to it.
I was curious to see if your opinions hadchanged from when you last watched it.
(58:43):
If anything. I like ita little less now, but
let's get into it.
So my other choice of moviethis week was from America and
Columbia released in 2016,the Bellco Experiment
summary from IMDB In aTwisted Social Experiment,
80 Americans are locked in their highrise corporate office in Bogota, Columbia.
(59:07):
I probably mispronounce that and orderedby an unknown voice coming from the
company's intercom system to participatein a deadly game of kill or be killed.
So a lot of marketing buzzaround this movie at the time.
And I remember this becausewe saw this in theaters.
(59:27):
Yeah, we did. Yeah. This was early 2016.
Yeah, but before 2016 became 2016, so to.
Speak. Yeah,
just started June 1st. Oh, no.
(59:49):
I.
Had just started at one of my manyunpleasant corporate jobs over the years,
and.
That.
Particularly excited me for thepremise of this movie in particular.
But.
Yeah, March 17th, 2017, solater than I thought. Oh, okay.
But I definitely remember seeingit with you and one of the twins.
(01:00:13):
Yeah.
I don't remember which one.
And it was my idea, Iwas hyped for this movie,
and I don't know if I've apologizedsufficiently for that over the years, but
it wasn't, I mean.
I don't know if it wasapology worthy, but.
A lot of the marketing buzzsurrounding this movie advertised it
(01:00:34):
as a combination of battleroyale and office space,
which is true only in the most literal,
generous sense of the word,
and that it's a movie about a killinggame that takes place in a corporate
office.
So that's it. That's the only.
Pretty much, it lacks both office spaces,
(01:00:56):
comedic satire and relatability.
And any sense of creativityor flare it flare is,
I'm talking about officespace, pieces of flare,
but it doesn't have any of flare orimpressive kills that Metal Royal had.
And one of the issues of this movie,
(01:01:20):
and this was another thing that made meIll advised in my excitement to see it,
is the involvement of James Gunn whowrote and produced this movie but didn't
actually direct it. And at the time,
James Gunn was just coming off ofbeing the director of Guardians
of the Galaxy,
(01:01:40):
which to date is the onlyMarvel movie that I can enjoy.
Yeah.
Fair. I can expect that.
So he had that going for him. Andon a more personal note for me,
he had also writtenthe script at the time,
recently releasedgreatest video game about
(01:02:05):
a cheerleader killing zombieswith a chainsaw of all time,
lollipop Chainsaw, the remakefor which is releasing.
Next week, by the way. So staytuned for my thoughts on that. Nice.
And so I went into this expecting fun,
comedic horror and
(01:02:31):
some.
Trivia behind this. James Gunn wrotethe script for this back in 2007,
and he stepped away from directing itor having anything to do with it because
it was his personallife issues at the time.
I think he was going through a divorceor death in the family or something.
So it was shelved for about a decade,
(01:02:51):
and some studio asked him to revive it.
And John didn't have time to direct themovie himself because at this point,
he was one of the Marvel people.He was making more money than God,
but
he did agree to produce itand extensively maintain
(01:03:11):
full creative control.
There's some debates on how muchcreative control he actually
had or more accuratelybothered to exercise.
And he handed directorduties to Greg McLean,
whose most famous movie at the timewas a horror movie called Wolf Creek,
(01:03:32):
which I'm also is from Australia.
And I'm tentatively thinking of addingit to my repertoire just to see if
maybe he did something better thanthis. I wanted to give him a shot.
I love Wolf Creek, butit's brutal. It's brutal.
So that leads into some of thediscussion that I read over
(01:03:55):
where this movie went wrong,Belco experiment, not Wolf Creek.
So general consensus on TV tropes,
which is where I get arguably far toomuch of my information on fandom reaction
to things,
is that Cleen made the mistake of
playing the script that Gunn wroteas a horror comedy too straight.
(01:04:20):
And I can definitely seethe argument for that.
This is a very sell premise with a moviethat takes itself way too seriously and
isn't competent enough to pull it off,
which is a problem we run into witha lot of movies on this podcast.
But that's differentconversation for a different day.
But that theory has some holes init for me, because for one thing,
(01:04:43):
James Gunn also made Bright Burn. And.
While I'd be hard pressed to call thatmovie the greatest movie of all time,
it's also a.
Horror movie with a very sillypremise that takes itself seriously.
And it was so much better than this.
(01:05:07):
Yeah. Rayburn is legitimate. I It's scary.
Yeah. Yeah.
It is arguably one of the besttakes on the what if Superman,
but evil trope. I put itup there with Red Sun.
Which I would love to see adaptedincidentally. That'd be awesome.
(01:05:31):
But overall.
Just my dislike for this moviejust mostly comes from the wasted
potential.
The characters aren't developed orinteresting enough to work from the Office
Comedy Angle and the Killsaren't interesting enough
for the horror angle,
(01:05:52):
a death game taking place in a corporateoffice building, I expect, well, okay,
there's one guy that gets murdered witha tape dispenser, but other than that,
it's mostly just people shootingeach other. That's boring.
Yeah.
That doesn't sound so creative whenyou have an entire office space to work
with.
Yeah. Well, it felt likethe office was incidental.
(01:06:15):
Yes. It could have been anywhere.
And my recollection is theystart trying to, they tell 'em,
you have to kill half of the 80people or something like that.
So they start looking.
At basically, you have to killtwo people, or we'll kill four,
and then you have to kill 20people, or we'll kill four, or no,
it's kill 40 people. Or we'llkill, I don't know. But either way,
(01:06:35):
there's like 20 people leftin the climax of the movie,
and it turns into a massive battle royale.
And if you do that with Dilbert office,
Spacey tropes, will youplease just send an email
scheduling meetings? That could be emails.
(01:06:55):
You could have fun with that while he'sbeating him with a mouse or something
like that. But it just didn't,
it took itself too seriously.And it played it to,
you felt bad for the characters.
They weren't walkingoffice or coworker tropes.
Maybe not the one played by Dr.Cox. He was pretty terrible.
(01:07:22):
But that's the other thing too.John c McGinley is so funny.
Dr. Cox was great.
He's Stan is Stan versusStan Against Evil. And that,
oh, that deserves so muchmore than it got season wise.
That is, especially the first seasonor two are funny. It's all Get Out.
(01:07:46):
And I was expecting so muchmore from him, and he's doing,
McGinley is doing the besthe can with the script, but
they just got him andeverybody to play it too.
It felt like it was trying toohard, sort of across the board.
They had a premise that needed comedyand they did not put comedy in it.
(01:08:09):
And I know that I'm normally superpredisposed toward comedy and
me expecting to find comedyand not getting as a problem I have with a bunch of
stuff, but I feel like thisis one more that's warranted.
Well, that was the entiremarketing pitch of the film.
Hey, hey,
this is by the same guy that wrote thatsilly movie about the raccoon that made
(01:08:30):
all the money.
Want to see him do officespace, but with murder.
And I still want to seethat that's not what we got.
So.
I take it rewatching it didnot change your opinion at all.
(01:08:51):
No, no.
It did not.
There are some scenes toward the endwhere they're picking who lives and does
That actually made me alot more uncomfortable than when I watched it the first.
Time, but not really in agood way, just kind of in a,
well, why am I watching this kind of way?
(01:09:14):
And it feels like,especially toward the end,
that they're trying to makesome social commentary.
And that could have been poignantand entertaining if they had
just done two or three more drafts.
But as.
It stands.
This movie just did not work for me. Yeah,
(01:09:37):
that's a.
Shame.
Yeah.
Well, it makes sense that thedirector also did Wolf Creek,
because Wolf Creek is completely
fastball down the middle. It's brutal.
It's torture porn. But youknow that going into it. No,
it's not throwing you a curveball at all. It's that intense.
(01:10:03):
This couldn't pick a lane. Yeah.
No.
So yeah, motion picture to.
Scale.
I'm giving it a two because I could seethe second half where everything starts
unraveling, genuinely freaking out.
Someone who isn't intohorror and was expecting
(01:10:23):
something a bit sierbased on the marketing,
but even that's being pretty generous.
You kind of have to care for thecharacters to be scared for them.
And this movie does not giveyou the opportunity to do that.
Quality three, nothing wrong withit from a technical standpoint,
but it's just kind of meh andenjoyment. I'm giving it a two.
(01:10:45):
I had a really hard timegetting through this.
Not to the point that itmakes me angry and I try to
save ones for movies thatgenuinely make me angry.
But this goes beyondjust not being for me,
because I honestly have ahard time imagining anybody.
Liking this. Yeah.
(01:11:07):
Fair enough.
Yeah.
I don't remember a lot of people talkingpositively out of it as we were walking
out of the theater. Apparently.
There were people in the theater besides.
Us were there.
Maybe that's why I don't remember anybodytalking about it. Well, part of that.
(01:11:28):
Is because it came out in thesame week as Beauty and the Beast.
So there were tons of peoplethere to see that bad live action
remake of Beauty of theBeast with Emma Watson.
So there were tons of peoplethere to see that before.
And we were the only three peopleseeing the Belco experiment to the
point that the ticketperson gave us a weird look.
(01:11:51):
Okay, now is ringing Capel.Yes, he eyeballed us.
You're going to see thathe looked at him. We,
and there were throngs of Disneypeople that had just gone through in
front of us in a whole line.
Of, and other guy was anadmittedly impressive beast,
cosplay that probably looked betterthan the beast in that movie,
(01:12:16):
I.
Remember this and I had tolook it up. I was right.
This came out around thesame time that Mayhem did
and another office.
And so Mayhem was the onethat I loved and I kept
relating mayhem to Belcoexperiment. And I would see their
(01:12:37):
cover art and I'd be like, oh, is thisBelco? And it's like, no, that's Mayhem.
It's very similar premises. And it.
Has.
Steven Win, which is one ofmy favorite, favorite actors.
That's the one with the lawyerthat has the disease that Rick your
impulse control or something, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
(01:12:58):
Because when I was doing my research,
I was also looking for other moviesthat did office horror better
and real debatable on whetherI found any that were better.
But Mayhem is one of the ones thatcame up, so yeah, I read about it.
Mayhem is better.
Okay. Another one I saw was,let me see if I can find it.
(01:13:20):
Oh, is it Office Uprising?
Yep. Yep. The zombiesin an Office basically.
Yep.
Well, not really zombies, butlike the Rage 28 days later type.
Yeah. Rage, whatever it is. Yeah.
I also have this vaguerecollection of a YouTube video of
(01:13:43):
Jigsaw if he were yourcoworker, like the Doll.
And I remember that beingfunny as all Get Out. Yes.
They did. What if Jigsawwas your roommate? What if Jigsaw was your coworker?
It was a whole series and it's hilarious.
Yeah, yeah. No, the coworker oneis the one that I remember. Scary.
(01:14:08):
All of which were better experiment. Yes.
Alrighty. Do we want to spin the wheelor are we feeling good about next week?
I already have one for next week.
So I do too.
I already have one for nextweek too, and I still have,
if I could do trivia again.I've got so much for trivia.
If you guys want me to do itagain, but if you would like it,
(01:14:32):
that is totally cool too.
Sure. I mean, I've got a few that I needto feel like I need to avenge myself.
So Yeah, go ahead. UnlessGreat, you want to do it?
I will find some eventually. That willprobably not be next week though, so one.
Y'all go Sweet.
Fair enough.
Alrighty. Well if you're still listening,give us a shout out on Threads.
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Yay.
And the first time I tried to deleteit, it said, something's gone wrong.
Try again later. And I'm like,
nice try. And I just buttonmatched until it let me delete it.
But give us a shout out onFriends. Oh, we send our.
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so I'm just going toinsist that they're grams.
It's a gram. Absolutely.
Follow us on Letterboxed andtell your friends, say, Hey,
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