August 22, 2024 • 78 mins
What's more frightening: anticipation, or realization? Amorous zombies, or giant holes in the ground? We get weird this week with Japanese folk horror classic Onibaba (1964) on Max, ultra-Italian bizarro flick Cemetery Man (1994) on Shudder and the trippy Canadian short Deja Vu on Shortverse. Plus - what major Asian city has not been attacked by a giant monster?
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You're just standing a little bittoo far to the right of your phone.
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Okay.
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What? So welcome to Imported Horror.
This is the podcast that brings youthe very best of chilling Samurai with
deaths glitches in the matrix.
And believe it or not,
horny zombies frombeyond the shining seas.
I'm Marcus. I'm herewith both my macab death.
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Holy cohosts.
Melissa, I don't know if Ilike the term death. Holy.
And Grady,
and I was going to bragabout my sea skills bringing Melissa back from our cat's
butt hole. But now I'm just, you've ruinedit with all of your death hole talk.
Do we not do phrasing anymoresince archer's no longer around?
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Do we not do that?
I liked phrasing. Itfelt like a more mature,
y'all know me. I'm a big fanof the That's what she said.
But phrasing is a littlebit more challenging.
I'm still stuck on that.You called phrasing mature.
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I mean relatively speaking.
There's a sliding scale here.
But yes, Melissa isback. She's on her phone.
So the audio is a little different becauseshe said her internet is interneting
and she just let Grady'scomment just fly right
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past her. So I'm assuming you haven'tlisted to last week's episode.
No, I haven't.
It's funnier. If you findout later, don't worry.
About it. Yes, it's better this way.
Okay, I'll listen to it immediately.
I do not believe you. That's okay.
So this week Grady is bringingus classic folk horror
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with death holes. Apparentlyonly Baba from Japan
on HBO. I think you watched it.
Yes.
Then Melissa's got a shortfilm from our friends up
north and then over a little bitthe Quebec quo called Deja vu.
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If you IMDB it. It's not the onewith Denzel directed by Tony Scott.
Although I heard that was prettystandard. Tony Scott Denzel Fair,
if you're into that.
No, this is much, much different.
Much different. Okay.
And then I got lucky because the lastdrive-in with Joe Bob Briggs last week
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showed cemetery man,which is very Italian.
It's very Italian. One.
Might say aggressively Italian.
Yes.
Does that have anything to dowith house by the cemetery?
No.
Okay.
So the gore,
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no disrespect to faultywhatsoever, but on a,
it's a Friday night. Whatam I looking at? Scale,
we could call that the Eugene Levy Scalebecause of that great gif where from
Schitt's Creek where he islike, what am I looking at?
So on the Eugene Levee scalehouse by the cemetery is
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maybe a six.
This is like a 13 maybe.
It's considerably weirder
because House by theCemetery at least had a plot
that was mostly linear.
Did it though.
Stupid can still be linear.
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As Grady said a momentago, sliding scale. Right.
But before we get into that,
I want to tweak our show description alittle bit because I realized it might
make us sound a little more seriousthan we are and we're not serious,
we're not professional. We barelyhave any idea what we're doing at all.
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Fair enough.
I make a penis joke or fartjoke at least once an episode.
So whatever's below amateur,I'm thinking entrepreneur.
That makes sense. Where areyou going to say, Melissa?
No, I just said that Grady's penisand fart jokes are always really good.
That's true. That'strue. Thank you. And you
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phrasing.
Anyway,
I thought we might lean into that justa smidge more and I got bored and I
wanted to play around with a triviasegment and if it works, great and if not,
that's okay too.
Alright.
So I tried to base this on moviesthat y'all have some familiarity with.
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Nothing too wild, nothingtoo out of left field,
and y'all can collaborate,
but you cannot Google and you'refree to agree or disagree. Okay.
Which of the followingmajor Asian cities has
never been attacked by a Kaijuor other giant monster in a
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streamable or rentable movie for the laws?
I'm going to say Tokyo, but obviouslythat's not the right answer.
Yeah.
Soul, Hong Kong,
Bangkok or Hanoi.
I know Soul, isn't it?Because I'm pretty sure
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that one found footage one.
Yeah, I was thinking about that too.
I think that was actually the onewith Anne Hathaway. Anne Hathaway? No,
not her name.
We are thinking of completely differentmovies, but we are both right.
Oh, what do you think you're thinkingabout? Oh, that was good. Yes. Yes.
Oh, what was that?
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It's killing you, isn't it? Because it's.
Killing.
Thinking of Colossal.
I'm thinking of that one movie that'sactually from Korea that I can't remember
the name of.
The host?
Yes, the host. Thank you. Yes.
Okay, so we know it's notSeoul. What other, I'm sorry.
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Hong Kong, Bangkok or Hanoi?
I think it's either Bangkok or Hanoi.
Yeah,
I think I remember Hong Kongshowing up on the podcast too. Well,
I mean Hong Kong's showing upon the podcast several times.
I don't remember if it'sbeen for Kaiju reasons, but.
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Why do I remember therewas some weird Kaiju
one and I want to say it was Noy,
so I want to say Bangkok is the correct.
I'm going to trust your judgment
because I feel like I would rememberBangkok being the subject of a monster
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movie because it isliterally the name Bangkok.
Yeah.
The jokes write themselves.
I mean, look at One Night in Bangkok.
And the world, your oyster.
We chess musical everwritten. I'm just saying.
Or the greatest musical chess.
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Musical. What?
We have wildly differentframes of reference.
What chess musical. That's where thesong one night in Bangkok is from.
Chess, like the board game. What.
Grady? Do you know what I'm talking about?
Yeah. I'm the one that saidThe world's your oyster.
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Oh my gosh, I missed that. Yeah.
No, I know the song.
What does it have to dowith the Game of chess?
There's a big chess tournament in Bangkokthat takes place during the climax and
they sing about how messed up Bangkokis and it just kind of is like a whole
spiral of sleazy debaucheryin the chess world.
And one night in Bangkok is.
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I'm assuming I've neveractually seen the musical.
I'm just guessing based on the lyricsof the song and the fact that it's in a
musical about chess.
Yes, that is actually correct. If youlisten to the lyrics and go and listen,
this guy is basically tellingeverybody, Hey listen,
I'm not going to go and playaround in your debauchery.
I have other things to do.I'm a chess player. Yeah,
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chess the musical.
I mean, I've heard thesong I just assumed. Yeah.
Okay. That I didn't realize somehow. Wow.
Wow.
Maybe I'm the trivia person.
So, okay. Melissa,
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are we walking in Bangkok as our answerto the actual trivia Western at hand?
Yes, I think we are. Normally,I would've said Hanoi,
but I really think Hanoi had somekaiju going on. I don't remember what.
It was. Yeah,
that feels like it'd be an obscure onethat Marcus is trying to trick us with.
Yeah.
And he is smiling smugly, which tellsme we're wrong. So go ahead, Marcus.
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You were wrong, but you're almost right.
So you are correct that therewas a weird Kaiju movie that
nobody liked that we watched for thepodcast in either Bangkok or Hanoi.
It was the lake.
That's what it was. Yes, Iremember that. It was so.
Weird and we had really highexpectations and hopes for it,
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and then it was just no buenowhatsoever. But that was Bangkok,
not Hanoi. To my knowledge,
Vietnam has never been invadedby Kaijus or giant monsters.
I am open to being provenwrong, but to my knowledge,
Hanoi Canonically is safe for now.
Damn.
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For now.
And for Hong Kong. Godzillawent there at least once,
but I was also thinking of Pacific Rim,
which has that whole big fight in Hongor in the Bay right outside Hong Kong.
Okay.
Kong. Yeah. I didn't.
Remember a Pacific Rimhaving a fight in Hong Kong.
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I just figured Hong Kong is such a famouscity in that part of the world that
there's no way it wasn't avictim of a kaiju at some point.
And it may have been in some othersas well. That's just one I know. Okay.
I also have one more just for funif y'all want to keep playing.
So this is the same question sort of,
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but for the locals, we'regoing to go with Houston.
So which of the following horrorthings have never attacked
Houston in a streamable or rentablemovie? And one of these is a freebie.
Okay. Thank you for clarifying.In a streamable or rentable movie.
Yeah. Something you've seen or couldsee. Not something super ultra obscure.
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Okay. I was thinking real life continue.
So aliens, slashers,
werewolves, or a giant swarm of bees.
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I know not aliensbecause Independence Day.
And also 10 Cloverfield Lane, andI think a couple of others too.
Do you know how bad, I wantto say a giant swarm of bees,
but for some reason I think thatHouston was probably in a movie where it
was attacked by a hoard of giant bees.
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No, those are two different things.
So a hoard of giganticbees and a giant swarm of
bees are two very different things and aswarm of the bees are small and there's
a ton of them.
Okay.
Run through the non Bnon alien options. Again.
Slashers and werewolves.
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Slashers and werewolves.
I feel like if Houstonhad a werewolf movie,
we'd have talked about it by now.
I also feel like Texas has had slasher
movies, but maybe not Houston.
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Yeah, maybe not Houstonspecifically. That's a good point.
So we can assume a fair bit of by
Houston, I'm not meaningjust inside the loop.
I mean theoretically everythingfrom Galveston to Livingston.
I still don't remembera Slack chain. My head.
I'm desperately trying to rememberwhich specific part of Texas Chainsaw
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Massacre takes place in.
Yeah, I really thought that waslike West Texas, but maybe I'm just.
Did two, but we've got sometechnicalities going on here.
We do.
I can help clarify thetechnicality if you want.
Please do.
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Okay.
So Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasfilmed in Bastrop and the gas station
that they shot,
a lot of that has been converted to abarbecue joint and we really need to go at
some point, Bastrop is areal life, very scary place.
Not because of the gas station,
but because that was the birthplaceof the Jade Helm movement,
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which was basically thefirst great MAGA Russian
conspiracy thing that just went hogwild what, 10, 12, 14 years ago?
Something like that.Yeah. Not that, not that,
but there is at least one slasherthat I know we've talked about that.
I know you have seen Melissathat may or may not qualify.
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Fuck, I guess I just kind ofspoiled that, didn't I? Okay.
X starts in Houston.
Yes, it does. That's right. Andwe just talked about that. Okay.
And for that matter,
there is a movie called Night Gamefrom 1989 with Roy Schneider that is
apparently awful, just truly terrible,
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but is shot in Houston,
a serial killer starts killingpeople whenever the Astros win,
which in 1989 and a couple of yearsago would've been a pretty high body
count. Maybe not so much anymore.
Now he, no one dies.
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They've had a comeback this year.
Oh, okay.
I mean, beginning of the year. Yeah. No,
my parents stoppedwatching out of disgust,
but they are actuallyback in contention for the
playoffs.
Oh good. Okay.
Alright. Assuming.
That Seattle doesn't win a singlegame for the rest of the year.
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Anyway, continue.
I'm going to go werewolf.
Yeah,
I'm going to differ here.
I'm going to go withslasher and thinking that
the other Texas thingmight be a double bluff.
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Okay.
Blocked.
In.
You're sure you don't want toguess the giant swarm of bees?
Well now I can.
As you can tell, I take my trivia tipsfrom the one and only Regis Philbin.
Giant Swarm of Bees. Giant Swarm of Bees.
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What movie? I mean, I'm trying to think.
See, I feel like this leads to an obscure
streamable movie where that Houstongetting swarm by Tri Bees that you just
can't wait to tell us about.See, I'm kind of meditating here.
I feel like that.
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As you can tell, I would bea magnificent poker player.
I can bluff with the best of them.
Alright, I'm werewolf.
Yep. I'm sticking with a serialkiller. Probably wrong. Go ahead.
Okay, so I wasn't trying to doublebluff you or anything. There are,
and there is actually a moviewhere Houston gets hit by a giant
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swarm of bees. You're right,it's called The Swarm.
It's from 1978.
It is with the last personyou would ever expect to be
in this movie, and it'sgot him. It's Michael Kane.
How have we not started areligion around this movie? I.
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Have no idea.
WhatWar?
The swarm from 1978.
Apparently the entire city gets destroyed.
Oh my God.
The trailer is a banger. By the way.
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The YouTube tagline for thisis Killer Bees on the loose,
or should I say fly? I don'teven understand. Or on the fly.
Oh, I got it now.
That's still a weak tagline.
It's a really.
It has 9% on Rotten Tomatoes guys.
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Yeah. Excellent. But I mean Michael Kane,
nobody does bad movies orgood movies like Michael Kane.
It's based on a novel.
Yes.
Okay. This
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dare I ask where it's streaming.
I sure.
I can make an educated Yes.
I actually don't know.
So I just googled horror movies setin Houston and there's a Wikipedia
thing about movies set in Houston andthere was I think a Houstonian magazine
article that had a couple. Thereare not a lot, but let's see.
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Richard Chamberlain, isn't it too.
You have to rent it,
but it's rentable from Apple andAmazon and if you have a YouTube
TV premium subscription. Yeah, hot.
Duke was in it. Whatis up with this movie?
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Yep. No, I'm telling you this.This came out of nowhere.
Either the producer and director for thismovie were just magnificent salesmen,
far more than they were Good producersand directors or all of these actors
had severe gambling debtsat the exact same time.
Yes.
Alright, so this is by Irwin Allen.
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He's known as the Masterof Disaster for his
work in the disaster film genre.
The movie poster.
None of the buildings except theAstrodome look, especially Houston.
But I'm assuming the Astrodomeplays a critical role.
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Yeah, it was, I think at that point,the only famous building in Houston.
So it would.
Have to be, yes, arguably it still is.
Dude, the guy who directedand produced this was
also created and produced, lost in Space,
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the original.
Yeah.
This is just fascinating to me.
I know, I know, right? Iknow this was a rabbit hole.
I fell down instead of doing myclass prep, which I am very, very,
very far behind on.
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This was a better useof your time. Holy shit.
Absolutely.
Were people just bored? Were they justbored? Did they just stand around and go,
oh my God, this book isso weird. Let's do this.
We have nothing better going on.
I mean, it was the seventiesdisaster. Movies were in vogue
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also, there was a lot of drugs.
I'm going to say that that probably hadmore to do with it than anything else.
So obviously we'll be.
Watching this obviously awkward timebetween the weed years and the cocaine
years. There were some magical thingsthat happened during that transition.
Wow.
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Yep.
So apparently, sorry,
now I'm doing a deep dive and this willbe the last thing I say about this.
I know we got to go on, but Oh my.
God. Don't spoil anything.This is a masterpiece.
Don spoil anything. I'm not spoilinganything about the book. Okay,
so he produced and directedthe big Budgeted the Swarm
Beyond the Poseidon Adventureand Produced When time ran out,
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these three films wereback to back to back box,
office disappointments with thefinal failure of when time ran out
effectively ending histheatrical film career.
So swarm was start of his downfall.
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Yeah, Houston will do that.
Wow.
So I'm watching it this weekend.I don't know about y'all.
Absolutely.
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So we've only got two moviesdropping this next week and one of
them doesn't really count.
One of 'em hits Friday, August 23rd.
It's called Hellhole andthis one is American,
but it's by a Canadianfamily who has done a
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lot. Actually they did. Hellbendergot a lot of press for that.
That was great example of a really lowbudget movie that went big and huge.
This one's American, but I mentionit. Let me read the summary.
Hellhole hails from the filmmaking familybehind Hellbender and Centers on an
American led fracking crew thatuncovers a living French soldier
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frozen in time from a Napoleoniccampaign whose body hosts a
parasitic monster. Now Ibrought it up, parasitic.
Monster does, but stuff.
Not why I brought it up, but veryimportant detail, presumably. Yes.
Is that the death hole?
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No, I'll get into the deathhole. Don't you worry.
Did you happen to recognizeanyone from this trailer
in particular, the living Frenchsoldier hosting a parasitic monster?
He looked so, so familiar.
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I did not.
So would it help if Igave you some hints in the
form of lines of dialogue.
Maybe?
Yes. Well, the sun drawsan eye. Oh dear. Hello.
Pretty one.
I would not have recognized him
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without the fingers.
The finger demons. I know.
Oh my God.
Yes.
I need to watch that now.
Yep. That is Anders Hove.
AKA better known to thisaudience is Hove and
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Ronald Vlo from Subspeciesone, subspecies two,
subspecies three, subspecies four,and wait for it. Subspecies five.
Which one? I just.
Had to.
Which were just masterpieces.
I mean, shit.
Honestly, there's a worm in my butt.
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Get it out. I tried to use thefinger demons and they, no,
out of that really, really quickly.
I think it's after theBloodstone.
I will use any excuse todo my Redu impression.
To do.
I mean, he's the best. Heis absolutely the best.
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So I will not rest.
And by that I mean I'm going to doliterally nothing to help make it happen
unless there's a Kickstarter.
But I will not rest untilSubspecies six is brought into this
world.
There are, by the way, a lotof movies called Hellhole.
There's actually 22 film thatis a Polish film as Polish
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horror film in a Polish monasteryin 1987 called Last Supper.
I think that that is going tobe my next installment guys.
Oh, did we all watch it or did Ijust watch it and talk about it?
Which one? No.
We've talked about it.Hell, the Polish one.
Oh really?
It's magnificent. If you haven't seenit, you should absolutely watch it.
I loved it.
Did we talk about that? Maybeit was an episode I wasn't on.
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Am I crazy, Grady?
I don't remember it.
And we've talked about Godzillaminus one on four separate episodes.
So even if we have talked about it,
there's nothing preventingMelissa from watching me and.
Giving her Absolutely. Yeah. No, Iloved it. I thought it was magnificent.
It's got a little bit of food horror.It's got a little bit of body horror.
It's got a great sense of humor. Ithought it was great. So yeah, watch it.
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10 out of 10, it's on Netflix.
Nice. Yeah, that's totallydifferent from this hell hole.
Yes. Which.
I must stress is about a parasiticworm that crawls up people's butts.
I'm not spoiling anything. Theybring that up right in the trailer.
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Yes, they do. Yes.
Plus it's just this love crafty andtentacle. You just expect it to go places.
We.
Probably could have used this movie whenwe were doing our Lovecraftian theme
where we couldn't find much.
That was where sex wasthat we still haven't done.
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Where? What was.
Sex? Medusa.
That's true. Sex Medusa.I've still got the dvd.
Oh God, I forgot you got the DI.
Did. I bought the dvd. Yes.
Maybe I'll just break down andwatch it. Every time I suggest it,
y'all look at me like.
I'm up for it. It's just out of respectfor Emily and Dan. If they're there,
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we need to give them something else to do.
Do we though?
Well, We have to do itbecause we do the podcast.
We're contractually obligated to watchthis movie. They're innocent bystanders.
Fair enough, fair enough.I like that logic.
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I will admit,
I sprung the whole horror podcast thingon Emily after we met and after she was
more or less invested. It wasn'ta first date. What do you do?
I really like scary movies. I mean,maybe it came up, maybe it didn't.
Spent a lot of time talking aboutTrue Crime, which is sort of similar.
Yeah,
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They're both grizzlypodcast fodder. I mean.
Yes. So the second one dropping this week,
and this is the lastone I've got for August,
and I'm assuming September thingsare going to ramp up pretty quickly.
I hope so, because Lowe's,
Roz and I went to Lowe'stoday and they've already,
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they already had on the side of the door,
like the front door when you walk in awhole row of Halloween stuff and they
were setting up the little display rightopposite the front door right when you
walked in. So.
Halloween's doing the Labor Day. WhatChristmas does to Thanksgiving is.
Yeah, I'm not a fan.Holidays are meaningless.
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If time is meaningless, like October,maybe late September is for Halloween.
Thanksgiving is November,Christmas, late November,
December. If it all just blendstogether, then what's the point?
I am with you on everyholiday except Halloween.
If I could have Halloween every day, Iwould have fucking Halloween every day.
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I mean, sure. But kidsaren't even in school yet.
They're excited about back to schoolor not excited as it were. But.
Yeah, no, that would be my main issue.
If this as a kid back to schoolshould not be tainting Halloween.
When I was going back to school,
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me and my mom already had a plan forpaper Machine, my costume for that year,
and we were already workingon it over the summer.
I had already picked mychoices. That is important.
Well, fair enough.
In fairness, that was Emily's responsetoo. She said, well now wait a minute.
People like us who take time to planthings and whose lives are chaos,
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can't do anything really on shortnotice. We need time to strategize what
my phone, my computer.
We need time to strategize Halloweendecorations and I mean, yeah,
sure,
but I'm going to give that back to schoolstuff before I get my Halloween on,
so I dunno. But anyway.
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Tuesday I always plan my Halloweencostume two months in advance
regardless of whether or not I know fora fact there will be a cause to use a
Halloween costume.
Fair.
We will definitely do something this year.
Last year was a little crazy the yearbefore that. Yeah, it was also crazy.
But this year definitely doing something.
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The year before that we didthe silent disco. That was fun.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right, because Emily. That'sright. That was a lot of fun. Yeah.
Emily was the world's most pregnant.Winnie the Pooh. It was great.
Well.
Maybe that was Dr. Mann and Melissa.
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You were the little kid from Trickor Treat and almost asphyxiated.
And we got the best out of that.
We really did. We really did. Okay,
so Tuesday, the 27th ofAugust on screen box,
we've got the funeral from Turkey.
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Kamal drives a hearse for a living.
He's entrusted with secretly carrying thebody of a young girl at the request of
her family. One night he hears strangegroans from the back of the truck,
even though she hasn't got a pulse.
And the screen box publicity folks say it
does for zombies whatanother movie did for
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another horror thing. And I'm betting
y'all will be able to pickup on it. Maybe if not,
I'll just come out and say it.
Wait, say that. So saywhat you said again.
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I'm trying to wrap myhead around what you said.
So the screen box publicity folks aresaying that this movie does for zombies
what another movie did for vampires.
No, du.
Not that far back. No.Let the right one in.
Oh, okay. I like it.
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Because young girl afflictedwith something guy kind of trying to take care of
her. I could see the overlap.
I can see the overlap too. Yeah.
So one thing I will say,
and this is largely independent of themovie itself and more to do with the
people making it.
I've never heard of B-I-F-F-F before,
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but I love their logo.
Like a Raven in a Top Hatis just something I trust to bring me horror movies.
Yes, it.
Loses some points for not also havinga monocle, but the top hat works.
Like an evil Mr. Peanut. Oh.
Yeah.
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Yeah. But this one lookedall right. What y'all think.
I don't normally like zombie movies,but this one, no, it looks good.
Looked pretty good.
I'll say I had a little bit of adifficult time telling what was kind of
going on in the trailer.
This is one of those kind more vaguerepeat kind of trailers that we get.
And it was really difficult to find outon my own because the funeral is almost
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impossible to Google.
There's a song by Band of horses.
There is a couple other movies calledThe Funeral One, which is a big one,
which is like a mobster movie.
Even adding 2024 didn't help becausethat just got me a reality show.
Storying Alan Cumming.
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Yeah.
So what?
Yeah, like Boris, I am inBowl. Alan Cumming. Yeah.
Okay. Okay.
We're just doing the greatest hitsof classic British actors here.
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Alright, so who wants to go first?
I'll.
Okay, tell us about Deja vu.
Yes, so movie is deja vu. It's from 2023.
And again, this is fromthe Short verse website,
my favorite new short filmwebsite where you can look by
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genre and by countriesand things like that.
And you emailed them themand they were cool. They.
Were very cool. They were very, very cool.
So huge. Shout out to short verse com.
I highly,
highly recommend that you go there andcheck out their movies and especially
because these are up and coming filmmakersjust trying to get their name out
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there. And I think it's reallyimportant that we support up and comers.
So this one is by,
and I'm going to pronounce this reallybadly, so I apologize. Olivier le
Lemoine, L-E-M-O-Y-N-E.
It is French-Canadian.
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And the synopsis is a young woman meetswith her best friend in a local diner to
tell him about the fantasyshe recently accomplished.
But when a mysterious man enters, sheis struck by a feeling of deja vu.
So this was a nine minute short,
but it felt like itwas an hour long movie.
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And I'm not saying that in abad way. So for someone like me,
one of the two thingsthat are scariest for me,
I have really vivid dreams.Incredibly vivid dreams.
They sometimes include horror, naturaldisasters, things like that. But.
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Bees.
Bees.
Well they certainly will now, now.
But a lot of times I can't.
Sometimes I can tell 'em in a dream andsometimes I can't. Whether it's lucid,
lucid dreams or not, Ido have lucid dreaming.
And one of the things that happens indreams that also I see as a trope in
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horror movies that sometimesworks well and sometimes doesn't,
is looking at yourself in amirror and you're mirroring the
actions of the personthat's staring back at you.
But if you're looking at yourself,
those actions are laggedbehind by a couple of seconds.
But if you are scaring at someoneelse and they're not supposed to be
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you, and they're doing thosemovements as well as you,
both of those things are terrifying for me
because it's a big feelingof not knowing what's
real and not knowing what'sgoing to happen happen.
But having the feeling thatyou've been there before,
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I see you Grady.
Grady, it's,
But to have a movie that is so very,
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such a normal movie,
a woman is just kind of waitingfor her friend in a diner.
She did some naughty, naughty thingsthe night before. She can't wait.
She can't, can't wait to tellher friend what happened.
And to have all of theseunsettling things happen where
she'll be looking at a booth one momentand it'll have a couple in it and she'll
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look down and the next moment there'llbe somebody else entirely in the booth
and the colors changed a bitor the waitress comes over,
takes their order,
she starts having a conversation andthe waitress comes over again and takes
their order and everybody else is acting.
Yeah, the waits kind of like aguest lighty sort of situation.
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Yes. And so that's always, again,
a huge fear of mine becausein my head I'm like,
how do you know things are theway they are supposed to be?
Right? If I start seeingfricking ghosts or demons,
how do I know that that's just not mybrain tricking me And those things are
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actually going on becauseeither way it's real to me,
but it's not necessarilyweird about everybody else.
And both possibilities areequally bad for different reasons.
So either there'smonsters or you're crazy.
This filmmaker did such anamazing job of making you
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feel unsettled from the momentshe walked into the diner till
the end of the nine minutes.
And one of the biggest comments underall the comments of these that I
resonate with, it leaves you thinking,
and you'll be thinkingabout the short days later.
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And I really was, it wasincredibly unsettling.
So he wrote a statement,
the filmmaker statement that Iwant to read because I think it's
really interesting and I do think thatwhat he's saying is kind of powerful.
So deja vu is a film I wroteafter a dream I had where a woman
experienced a traumatic event before ithappened through a feeling of deja vu.
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I've seen many powerful films thatrelay the horror of the violence of the
event through its aftermath,
where the emotional impact on thecharacter can be much more dramatic than
seeing the actual events with deja vu.
I wanted to see if I could tell astory of horror through the protagonist
experience of the events,
but this time setting thestory before they happened,
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therefore experimenting on the notionthat anticipation can be one of those
most horrific ways to experience pain.
And I think that we have,he's absolutely right.
We have so many films where someevent happens and you don't see the
event,
but you see the aftermath and itbrings you into the feeling it brings
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you into the scene.
But how many movies really talk about that
anticipation of something isgoing to happen to you and
you can't do anything to stop it andyou don't know when it's going to happen
and that just builds andbuilds and builds and
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this ends before thehorrific thing happens.
And that somehow makesit even scarier because
you have an idea ofwhat's going to happen,
but you don't know whathappens. You dunno what it's,
and you can't see the aftermath.
Well and you don't dunno whenmaybe it's right after the cut,
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maybe it's three days later,maybe it's you don't know.
And I sat with thatfor a long time because
anticipation is one of thethings that scares me the
most as well. I don't like not knowing.
So when you have a moviethat is all about the
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not knowing and you don't knowwhat happens and you just have to
sit in that uncomfortable horror,
that blows me away.
I think that he could have madethis into such a great feature
length film except I think it workedreally well as a short because he was able
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to build in that tension withoutthe tension getting boring.
Boring or loosening,
which what would happen in thistype of movie if you made it
into a feature length film becauseyou do have final destination,
things like that. But again,that's really more about, yes,
the anticipation, but it's themavoiding the thing that happens,
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what's going to happen. It's notnecessarily about the anticipation,
it's about knowing that something'sgoing to happen and you actually
then see it happen and you can followthe characters like that and it gets
repetitive and boring after a while.
So because this was so short and
because he did it in such a waythat it was just the anticipation
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of horror coming onto her butnever actually reaching that
climax, terrifying,
100% recommend.
I'm going to say that one tofive scale of one to five,
quality and enjoyment. Five.And on the horror scale,
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I'm going to give this a three becausewhat you can make up in your head to what
happens is so much worse than anythingthat could have been put on screen.
That sounds right. That sounds good.
So he's done a couple of more films,
so I'm going to kind of delvemore into his filmmaking style
because I really think it's sointeresting and I like what he can
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do with just feelings.
Can I give you a homework assignment?
Yes, absolutely.
Have you seen come True?
No, I haven't.
Okay, don't Google it. Don't lookanything up. Just watch it. Grady.
You might like it too,but it's dream horror.
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It's definitely going topush your buttons. Melissa,
I think you might like it for differentreasons, Grady given your superpower,
but I think Melissawould, so if you all want.
Come true.
I think it's on Hulu, butas far as dream horror goes,
you're going to want to watch it inthe middle of the night pitch black.
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This is one,
it came out during the pandemic andit was denied a big theatrical release
because of the pandemic.It wasn't its fault,
but this is one of those movies thatI would've loved to have seen in a
theater. I'll also tellyou, my brother hated it,
hated it with a passion.
I'm probably really like it.
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I understand why Quentinhated it. I get it.
Quentin hated it for reasons thatI think you might dislike it Grady,
but I'm not sure and I don't wantto give anything away because.
Sometimes
Quentin and I have differences of opinion.Sometimes we have the same opinion,
but Quentin's a littlebit more vocal about.
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It, let's say.
I think this one might bemore in that direction,
but I think you would have funhating on it in a way that Quentin
doesn't. Okay.
I'm excited for it.
Yeah.
It's not foreign is it?
It's Canadian.
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Nice.
English Canadian. The.
Asterisk of foreign.
No, we haven't. I'vetalked about it before,
but I haven't put it on the list andwe haven't all watched it because
there are parts to the endingthat I think would both,
I don't want to say anything,but if you watch it,
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you'll understand why I hesitated, butalso understand why I think it's great.
Okay, so I'm.
Curious what that French Canadian,because that's what this one was too.
French Canadian can dodream horror apparently.
Well and French Canada.
I've been to Montreal for a conferenceand I thought all of Quebec was, yeah,
they speak English too. It's not thatbig of a deal. My conference was right,
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the hotel was right nearby where theNHL team plays like their arena and
you go 30 minutes in literally anydirection and it's a different world up
there.
We've got a friend who's going tograd school in Quebec City and it,
it's fascinating to hearBrian talk about it, but
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it's different.
It is much more different than I thinkthe English speaking world realizes.
Nice.
But it's also the same.They've got the same currency,
they've got the same government.It's a little yes, and.
Just everyone speaksa weird moon language.
And they've got an accentthat is very unique,
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let's say like French. Evenif you don't speak French,
you can tell when somebody's from Quebecand speaking as opposed to France or
Switzerland or Belgium oranywhere else. Okay. Anyway.
Should we talk about horny zombies ordo you want to talk about Fulco Grady?
I'll go ahead and talk about fulco.
Okay.
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So I did.
It is Japanese from 1964 written and
directed by Shindo.
Here is the summary paraphrasedfrom the TV tropes article
during one of the many bloody wars ofJapan's feudal period are two unnamed
female leads.
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An older woman and a younger womanawait the return of Kechi respectively,
the oldest son and the younger husbandwho was taken away to fight in the war.
If the farmland ravaged andmade barren by the conflict,
the two women have been survivingby murdering, wondering soldiers,
throwing their bodies in a dark pitthat I have affectionately nicknamed the
death hole and selling theirswords in armor to ushi,
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A skeevy black market dealer,
Kiki's friend and fellow soldier Hachireturns and tells the two women that
Kechi was killed on the way back.
Eventually the younger womanin Hachi embark on an affair,
which the older woman does not likeone bit leading to dark consequences.
Things are further complicated when acreepy samurai and a creepy mask shows up.
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That has so much going on.
I don't even want the officialsummary, I just want That sounds great.
Yeah. This movie has alot going on and could
arguably be considered one ofthe very first slasher movies.
There is a villain in a mask thatwrecks up a impressive kill count,
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and most of the characters are unpleasant,
horny assholes whose unpleasanthorny assholeness dictates the plot.
I mean, that's a slash or flick.
That's literally the definitionI think of a slash or flick.
I am maybe cherry picking orderand the cause and effect of things,
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but the elements are there.
And there's a death hole.
There is a death hole.
The death hole.
Plays a prominent role in the movieand actually looks pretty creepy.
It's just.
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A dark hole that things happen in.
Anyway, that's what she said. No, no,
no. So alright. The proverbial,
she is always very sex positive,
but also very happy.
She enjoys her manyescapades and adventures.
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What you just describedas a not fun. No, no,
the death hole. No.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
So the way this movie was. Yes, yes.
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Yes. So serious.
We talk about serious,important cultural issues.
Truth.
The horrors of war in ancientfield of Japan and death holes.
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Oh my God. The way the wholemovie is shot, it's really cool.
They found this really thick,it's called Suzuki Grass.
It kind of looks likethose bamboo forests that
you see sometimes where it's justreally thick and really tall.
That wasn't deliberate setup and
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just There aren't very manyaerial shots in this movie.
So most of the time,
the time the camera's just down therein the weeds with the characters,
so the audience can't really seetoo far beyond what's going on
right in front of them either.
And it just makes the wholething really claustrophobic and
especially the night shots.
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It's kind of cool that I watched thisso soon after Godzilla minus one and
Godzilla minus one minuscolor, because this movie,
a lot of the cinematography in this movie,
because it's black and white obviously,
and there are a lot of really cool shadingeffects in it they do that would not
have worked in a colorized movie.
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Just there's some shading and there'ssome night shots that are just really
creepy when the masked guy shows upthe way that he just kind of slowly
comes into frame and you see themask before you see anything else
and just, it's neat.
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I like that. And I was readingsome trivia about this,
and the casting crew actuallyfilmed in one of these giant
Suzuki grass fields inthe middle of nowhere,
and it was in the middle ofsummer and it was very unpleasant
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To the point that it isactually a major plot point in
the biographical film aboutthe life of Taji Tanama,
who's a fairly prolific Japaneseactor that played the black
market guy in this movie and was also
directed by the same guy that directedthis movie just several decades
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later. I think it may havebeen one of his last movies.
Was it unpleasant because of theheat or because of bug? The heat.
The bugs, the mud,
and apparently they had to,
the death hole that we see charactersclaim in and out of was not the actual
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death hole in the ground. They couldn'thave an actual death hole in the ground.
It kept filling with water so they had.
Death hole.
So they had to build a false deathhole that was like 10 feet tall
and have the actress climb up there whenthey had to film the scene where she's
climbing down into thedeath hole to retrieve the
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armor of all of thepeople that she killed.
That sounds incredibly unpleasant.
You're either up forthat or you're not. Well,
and it's the kind of thing that you thinkit's funny to be slimed and muddy for
a little while and then it starts to get.
Old.
It got to the point where they hadto threaten to not pay people to get
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them to stick around untilfilming was done. It was that.
Yeah, I believe it.
Anyway, this movie is basedon a Buddhist folk tale,
and I say based, it's actually,
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they take the name only Baba andthe general likeness of the mask,
and otherwise they just kinddo their own thing with it.
That's where the name comes from.
It's a specific kind of oldcrone demon in Japanese folklore
that could be fun.
It used to specifically be one thatstole fetuses from pregnant women,
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but it's kind of just graduallybecome just old demon woman.
One thing that I do need tokind of issue a disclaimer on
the Council of Dogs
has some issues with this movie.
There is a scene in order toshowcase the horror because
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they can't grow food,
they're just having to eat rats and
little wildlife.
And there was one point wherethe two women see a stray dog
and promptly kill and eat it.
We don't see any violence,just the dog runs,
the woman catches it.
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There's this very obviously 80 yardsand possibly not even actually a dog
Yelp.
And then it smash cuts tothem eating an obviously fake
crop dog that's roasting on a spit.
But it was still kindof an unnecessary scene.
I don't think the Councilof Dogs would pass judgment.
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They'd just growl at the movieuntil it left their chambers.
Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah,I think that's reasonable.
I think that's reasonable.
Well, I think so thiswas a wheel pick, right?
Yes.
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I think I put it on the wheel because Iread something somewhere about it being
a classic Japanese folk horror, but Idon't remember it literally anything else.
Yeah.
Now this movie is, I feellike I'm not doing it justice,
but this is one of themost famous movies in
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Japanese cinema.
Really?
And just, yeah, I
did not have time this weekend to doquite as much research on his cultural
significance aside,have liked. But this is
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one thing that I got from thisis it's one of the first real
post World War II anti-warmovies that was made in Japan
is they are not shy abouthow messed up war is.
And
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I kind of feel like maybethey used ancient futile Japan
as the setting in order to getaway with making that statement.
And they don't explicitly say that
it was this specific battle, but
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some of the research that I did on itand just some of the timing based on
what other people that watched thismovie and know way more about Japanese
history than I do wrote about it.
It strongly applied to take placeeither during or just after the
Battle of Mina Tagawa, which
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long story short, it was
kind of a Japanese equivalent.
The Alamo like a big famous losingbattle that was just kind of ultimately a
rallying cry for Imperial Japan.
And all of the sacrificeswill not be in vain. And
this was used kind of asa Japanese parable for
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loyalty and sacrifice to your governmentall the way through World War ii.
This was a thing that kamikaze pilots were
told to emulate.
And this is one of the firstmovies that really painted
this in a just unambiguouslynegative light.
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I,
so I pulled up the IMDB and I'm lookingthrough the images and I think I found
the death hole in the grass. Yes.
It's just this big.
Black.
Batch of nothing.
I mean,
I can see what you're saying about theshading in this photo and a lot of the
others because you,
nothing looks cool the way a goodblack and white movie looks cool,
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but also the way the dude isjust looking down the death hole,
it's unsettling in a way thatI can't quite put my finger on.
And if you know behind the scenes thatdude is actually perched up on a ladder
and hanging on for dear life,it kind of add some humor to it.
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Yeah, I could see that too. Oh,
you can kind of tell if youknow what you're looking for.
It almost kind of looks like awell that he's standing up on.
But if you hadn't told me, Inever would've guessed that.
Yeah, that's cool. That's cool.
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So you'd recommend it.
I would. Ocean picture Terra scale.
I'm giving it a two,
which is honestly a little bitgenerous because this movie's
not really that scary in atraditional horror standpoint and a
lot of the horrors of horror aspectof it, it's more sad than scary.
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But I am giving it a two just out ofrespect for the time and culture in which
the film was made.
I could see some 1960sJapanese audience being pretty
freaked out by some of thestuff that happens here
and quality, I'm giving it a high four.
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Cinematography is great.
Writing's great if the stuffabout the cast being mistreated is
true. I can't in goodconscience give it a five,
but I couldn't necessarilyfind Fair enough.
The only source I could findwas guy's biography, which
from everything I've read, therewere some liberties taken, let's say.
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Yeah, fair. Fair.
And enjoyment. I'm goingto give it a high three.
This is a movie that I liked readingabout and learning about a bit more than
I actually enjoyed sittingthrough. I do recommend it.
It's just like a lot ofold movies from its era.
It kind of drags a little bit at points.
(01:02:39):
Yeah,
well you want to talk aboutsomething completely different.
Horny zombies.
Horny zombies, maybe thehorniest zombies ever.
And I know that there aren't thatmany horny zombies out there,
but it's still like aworthy title to award
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this film. This is cemetery man.
A cemetery man must kill the dead asecond time when they become zombies.
I would like to nominatethis for worst IMDB summary.
Ever award.
You kill them by fucking them?
No, no. He shoots them with a pistoland there is a great deal of that.
(01:03:23):
He does pew pew quite a bit,
but that really underscores the
craziness. So the original Italian title,
and I hesitate to put youon the spot here, Melissa,
because you let me for over a year,
pronounce it GAO instead of Are weever going to get over that? No,
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we're not.
Because I trusted you andyou brought shame to your
ancestors. I.
Did. I brought shame to the restof my family that's still living.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Andthey're right, they're right.
The double L in Italian isnot the same as in Spanish. I.
Know, I know.
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And you weren't even doing it to troll me.
I would respect you if you'd managedto keep up that bit for that long.
You honestly thought I wassaying it right. I was not.
Jl LO.
Anyway, the original title forthis is De la Morte de la More,
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which if you knowanything about Italian is
of death of life or about death,
about life depending on your translation.
Yeah.
So I'm confused aboutthe horny part still.
Okay.
Do the zombies want to havesex with the cemetery man?
(01:04:52):
So let me walk youthrough what happens here.
So the cemetery man ishanging out at his cemetery
and he's got a best friend whowas a prolific French actor,
but the character is special needs andonly responds to everything with nah,
nah, nah. But the way he says it,
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you can tell if he means yes orno or if he is being suspicious,
something like that. And thedead basically. Yeah, exactly.
After seven days,
the dead come back and hehas to shoot them in the head
or brain them withsomething. But it's that.
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Standard zombie disposal.
Standard zombie disposal. But it'ssimpler than most zombie flicks.
They're not coming back in hoards.It's one or two at a time if that.
Well,
so he's really lonely and he likes toread the phone book and cross out the
names of the people who have died.
(01:05:55):
And he gives this really morose narration.
One of the earliest lines of dialoguehe says is I would give my life to be
dead.
Which if that soundsmelodramatic and grandiose
and Italian. Yes. Seems like a.
Gen Z comment under amovie about global warming.
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Also. Yes.
And then there's a funeralbecause he's in a cemetery and the
cemetery is really impressive.Joe Bob talked about it.
Some of the shots they did inan actual nice big cemetery in
Italy, and they found anotherone that was deconsecrated,
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so it wasn't still technically a cemetery.
So they could do a lot of the shotsthat you can't do in still an official
cemetery. It was almost like thedaytime shots are in the nice one.
The church still considers sacred,and then the zombie, the gnarly,
naughty shots were in theother one or in a studio,
but it still worksacross the board. Anyway,
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there's funeral and there's justthe most gorgeous woman that he has
ever seen.
And she's mourning her husbandwho is considerably older and
he hits on her and theyfall in love and they do
it on her husband's grave.
And Joe Bob described it as the bestsex scene ever committed to film.
(01:07:25):
And he might honestly be right,
but the zombie husband gets upset,
comes back from the deadand bites her, which.
Is completely reasonable.Honestly at that point.
That's a completely fair reaction.
I got to say, I'm with thedead husband on this one.
Well, I mean in fairness,
he was dead and she said thatshe never kept anything from him
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in life and she wanted to share this withhim, which I think is a sweet gesture.
Wait, wait. Whoa.
So this was an adultery,
this was a threesome with asevere misfire in communication
because one of them is a zombie.
Not quite. No, no, no, no. So shedidn't expect him to come back.
(01:08:14):
She just wanted his spiritto be aware and present and
compersion type of thing. Wildly.
Underestimated the spirit's
willingness to.
She should have had the polyamory talkwith him before he died. She did not.
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And things, communication. Say all that.
Communication.
Okay. Alright, hold on. It's important.
I'm still stuck on the factthat this was on purpose.
I assumed that they were just so hornythat they ripped off their clothes and
had to do it right there. No,they had sex on his grave.
On purpose.
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Because that was on purpose.
And in fairness,
they were both very horny and theyare both dropped dead gorgeous.
And you see a lot and you see a lot
of different times.
I know I bring this upa little bit too often.
I don't mean to just make this aconstant one issue wink for me, but
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I am ace. That's okay.
I feel like if a woman was like, Hey,
you want to have sex on my husband'sgrave so that we can share this moment
with him, I'm not sure,
even if I wasn't taste that I'd be upfor that. Even if she was really hot.
(01:09:43):
I feel like there's a bunch of issuesthat would need to be addressed.
And if I killed zombiesfor a living and knew that
corpses periodically risefrom this exact graveyard that
we're going to do this thing, and Iwould have even further questions.
(01:10:05):
So in his defense,
they only come back on the seventhnight and the husband has already been
dead. She says, well, she claimed thathe had been dead for longer than that,
so he thought he was safefrom that particular zombie.
So when she gets bitten,she into a zombie.
(01:10:26):
And then he also has sex with her zombie.
So that's where I'm going to stop,
because up until now it soundslike I'm spoiling stuff.
But that's just like the first 20minutes of the movie and it somehow
ratchets from there.
So I am not exaggeratingwhen I say this is a bizarre
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fever dream of film thatI can't decide how I feel
about it and it's justpreposterous and ridiculous.
But it is the perfect midnight ordrive-in movie. Like you get a beer,
you have some friends around,
you want to just watch something wherepeople say wacky shit and you see lots of
skin. Skin. Yeah.
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This may be the very bestmovie for you to watch to
scratch that itch.
It's a very Italian movie.
Bob was saying, and ifyou're going to watch it,
watch it with the Joe Bobcommentary on Shutter,
because that was really well done. But
(01:11:33):
he said this was thefirst or the last Jello.
I'm not completely sure Ibuy that because in my head,
jello still has at least somepolice procedural element to it.
And this kind of does. But thisalso just feels like wacky,
weird fever dream. If thisis the very last yellow,
(01:11:54):
then the genre by 1994 hadevolved quite a bit away
from its roots. And that's possible.
But it is generally consideredthe last Italian horror movie
because Italians just haven'tdone horror really ever since
in 20 plus years.
(01:12:15):
It's like they all collectively decided,okay, we've achieved zombie six.
That's what we set out to do with thiswhole genre experiment when we started.
We're done, we're done. Rev it up guys.
Basically.
Wow.
(01:12:36):
I'm still also stuck on the fact thatthat was only the first 20 minutes of the
movie.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Things happen.
I figured that was atleast a second act thing.
Nope, I could tell you morethat would blow your mind,
but it'd be better to, Idon't want to spoil it.
I'll tell that part because thatcommunicates the soul of the film,
(01:13:00):
the soul and the.
Establishing moment.
The rather generous ambiancethat really brings the film
together, if you know what Imean. And I think that you do.
Wow.
So anyway, it's on Tub.
(01:13:25):
Was always going be.
It's on to me, the original and theJoe Bob commentary is also on shutter.
So yeah, it wasn't scary.
I don't know. I enjoyed it.It was at least four quality.
The cinematography is much, muchbetter than it has any right to be.
(01:13:48):
And the acting is better than it has anyright to be, just because people were,
they just decided we'regoing to do this crazy movie
quality.
I'm honestly not surebecause that Eugene Levy
scale. What am I lookingat? I don't even know.
(01:14:11):
Part.
I mean, I dunno. I don't know.
Other body parts have very decisiveanswers, but not holistically.
I'm just not sure.
(01:14:32):
So yeah, cemetery man.
Cemetery man.
Glad we ended on that.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Do y'all want to spin the wheelor Nah, I'm good either way.
That's going to depend
(01:14:54):
because while I was watching
the movie you did last week on Tubito see what I thought about it,
which incidentally, plus oneto most of what you said,
I discovered a movie from my past
that I think shouldqualify for the podcast.
(01:15:17):
But I know that it technically,
because most of the funding camefrom the States, probably doesn't,
but I kind want to put it to a vote.
What is it?
The Belco experiment. Yay or nay.
Oh, yay.
Sure.
100%.
(01:15:37):
Okay.
So I swear.
Yeah, the funding came from theStates, but it was filmed in,
I want to say Columbia, butI don't know if that's right.
Yeah.
And I remember us watchingit when it came out.
We saw it in theaters and hated it.
(01:15:59):
And I kind of want to watch it now in a
way,
different head space as faras work culture and just my own personal life than I
was in 2016. And if I like it now,
I want to explore why it works for menow, but didn't work for me in 2016.
(01:16:19):
And if it turns out I still don't like it,
I want to give it a verypublic kick in the balls.
Do.
It. I love it.
Do it.
So I swear I've looked that up onIMDB before and I swear at least once
when I did it, it said Columbia was acountry of origin. It doesn't right now,
but the Columbia part is actually partof the plot and it was genuinely shot
(01:16:44):
down there. So I'm countingit. Alright. Do it. Okay.
Absolutely. And I actually have a,
I want to do so maybe we don't.
Yeah, no, I'm thinking pausethe wheel for a little while.
Thank you for your servicewheel. We'll come back to you.
(01:17:04):
Yep. Thank you. You do love you. Yeah.
Thank you for one way used you last weekgiving me on Baba and not some weird
alt-Right. Crap.
That always we'll continue.
It's always a concern whenwe don't use you for a while.
Yep. Yep. Well,
if you're still listening toour super professional podcast,
(01:17:26):
give us a super professional reviewon Apple Podcasts or your podcast
player of choice. Follow us onthreads, follow us on letterbox,
shoot us an email. Tellyour friends about us.
Tell anybody that's into horrorthat, Hey, these guys are cool.
You should check 'em out.It would mean a lot to us.
And we will see you nextweek for Belco Experiment.
(01:17:48):
And I'm not sure whatMelissa's going to go with,
but I feel like we gave you a lot.Maybe horny zombies, maybe Dream Horror,
I don't know.
There's a couple of different ones.I might have to maybe do one or two.
Sure. I actually have noidea what I'm going to do,
so I'll figure something out. Butwe will talk to you all next week.
Can you hear me and see me?
Yeah, I can hear you andI can see half of you.
Okay, but we're.
Everything's working.
You're just standing a little bittoo far to the right of your phone.
To the right. Hold on. I got tofigure out which is my right and left.
You're so going to get this wrong.
(00:25):
Now you're gone.
Okay.
(01:02):
What? So welcome to Imported Horror.
This is the podcast that brings youthe very best of chilling Samurai with
deaths glitches in the matrix.
And believe it or not,
horny zombies frombeyond the shining seas.
I'm Marcus. I'm herewith both my macab death.
(01:24):
Holy cohosts.
Melissa, I don't know if Ilike the term death. Holy.
And Grady,
and I was going to bragabout my sea skills bringing Melissa back from our cat's
butt hole. But now I'm just, you've ruinedit with all of your death hole talk.
Do we not do phrasing anymoresince archer's no longer around?
(01:46):
Do we not do that?
I liked phrasing. Itfelt like a more mature,
y'all know me. I'm a big fanof the That's what she said.
But phrasing is a littlebit more challenging.
I'm still stuck on that.You called phrasing mature.
(02:07):
I mean relatively speaking.
There's a sliding scale here.
But yes, Melissa isback. She's on her phone.
So the audio is a little different becauseshe said her internet is interneting
and she just let Grady'scomment just fly right
(02:27):
past her. So I'm assuming you haven'tlisted to last week's episode.
No, I haven't.
It's funnier. If you findout later, don't worry.
About it. Yes, it's better this way.
Okay, I'll listen to it immediately.
I do not believe you. That's okay.
So this week Grady is bringingus classic folk horror
(02:49):
with death holes. Apparentlyonly Baba from Japan
on HBO. I think you watched it.
Yes.
Then Melissa's got a shortfilm from our friends up
north and then over a little bitthe Quebec quo called Deja vu.
(03:09):
If you IMDB it. It's not the onewith Denzel directed by Tony Scott.
Although I heard that was prettystandard. Tony Scott Denzel Fair,
if you're into that.
No, this is much, much different.
Much different. Okay.
And then I got lucky because the lastdrive-in with Joe Bob Briggs last week
(03:30):
showed cemetery man,which is very Italian.
It's very Italian. One.
Might say aggressively Italian.
Yes.
Does that have anything to dowith house by the cemetery?
No.
Okay.
So the gore,
(03:53):
no disrespect to faultywhatsoever, but on a,
it's a Friday night. Whatam I looking at? Scale,
we could call that the Eugene Levy Scalebecause of that great gif where from
Schitt's Creek where he islike, what am I looking at?
So on the Eugene Levee scalehouse by the cemetery is
(04:14):
maybe a six.
This is like a 13 maybe.
It's considerably weirder
because House by theCemetery at least had a plot
that was mostly linear.
Did it though.
Stupid can still be linear.
(04:38):
As Grady said a momentago, sliding scale. Right.
But before we get into that,
I want to tweak our show description alittle bit because I realized it might
make us sound a little more seriousthan we are and we're not serious,
we're not professional. We barelyhave any idea what we're doing at all.
(04:59):
Fair enough.
I make a penis joke or fartjoke at least once an episode.
So whatever's below amateur,I'm thinking entrepreneur.
That makes sense. Where areyou going to say, Melissa?
No, I just said that Grady's penisand fart jokes are always really good.
That's true. That'strue. Thank you. And you
(05:24):
phrasing.
Anyway,
I thought we might lean into that justa smidge more and I got bored and I
wanted to play around with a triviasegment and if it works, great and if not,
that's okay too.
Alright.
So I tried to base this on moviesthat y'all have some familiarity with.
(05:47):
Nothing too wild, nothingtoo out of left field,
and y'all can collaborate,
but you cannot Google and you'refree to agree or disagree. Okay.
Which of the followingmajor Asian cities has
never been attacked by a Kaijuor other giant monster in a
(06:08):
streamable or rentable movie for the laws?
I'm going to say Tokyo, but obviouslythat's not the right answer.
Yeah.
Soul, Hong Kong,
Bangkok or Hanoi.
I know Soul, isn't it?Because I'm pretty sure
(06:34):
that one found footage one.
Yeah, I was thinking about that too.
I think that was actually the onewith Anne Hathaway. Anne Hathaway? No,
not her name.
We are thinking of completely differentmovies, but we are both right.
Oh, what do you think you're thinkingabout? Oh, that was good. Yes. Yes.
Oh, what was that?
(06:56):
It's killing you, isn't it? Because it's.
Killing.
Thinking of Colossal.
I'm thinking of that one movie that'sactually from Korea that I can't remember
the name of.
The host?
Yes, the host. Thank you. Yes.
Okay, so we know it's notSeoul. What other, I'm sorry.
(07:18):
Hong Kong, Bangkok or Hanoi?
I think it's either Bangkok or Hanoi.
Yeah,
I think I remember Hong Kongshowing up on the podcast too. Well,
I mean Hong Kong's showing upon the podcast several times.
I don't remember if it'sbeen for Kaiju reasons, but.
(07:41):
Why do I remember therewas some weird Kaiju
one and I want to say it was Noy,
so I want to say Bangkok is the correct.
I'm going to trust your judgment
because I feel like I would rememberBangkok being the subject of a monster
(08:02):
movie because it isliterally the name Bangkok.
Yeah.
The jokes write themselves.
I mean, look at One Night in Bangkok.
And the world, your oyster.
We chess musical everwritten. I'm just saying.
Or the greatest musical chess.
(08:26):
Musical. What?
We have wildly differentframes of reference.
What chess musical. That's where thesong one night in Bangkok is from.
Chess, like the board game. What.
Grady? Do you know what I'm talking about?
Yeah. I'm the one that saidThe world's your oyster.
(08:47):
Oh my gosh, I missed that. Yeah.
No, I know the song.
What does it have to dowith the Game of chess?
There's a big chess tournament in Bangkokthat takes place during the climax and
they sing about how messed up Bangkokis and it just kind of is like a whole
spiral of sleazy debaucheryin the chess world.
And one night in Bangkok is.
(09:08):
I'm assuming I've neveractually seen the musical.
I'm just guessing based on the lyricsof the song and the fact that it's in a
musical about chess.
Yes, that is actually correct. If youlisten to the lyrics and go and listen,
this guy is basically tellingeverybody, Hey listen,
I'm not going to go and playaround in your debauchery.
I have other things to do.I'm a chess player. Yeah,
(09:31):
chess the musical.
I mean, I've heard thesong I just assumed. Yeah.
Okay. That I didn't realize somehow. Wow.
Wow.
Maybe I'm the trivia person.
So, okay. Melissa,
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are we walking in Bangkok as our answerto the actual trivia Western at hand?
Yes, I think we are. Normally,I would've said Hanoi,
but I really think Hanoi had somekaiju going on. I don't remember what.
It was. Yeah,
that feels like it'd be an obscure onethat Marcus is trying to trick us with.
Yeah.
And he is smiling smugly, which tellsme we're wrong. So go ahead, Marcus.
(10:16):
You were wrong, but you're almost right.
So you are correct that therewas a weird Kaiju movie that
nobody liked that we watched for thepodcast in either Bangkok or Hanoi.
It was the lake.
That's what it was. Yes, Iremember that. It was so.
Weird and we had really highexpectations and hopes for it,
(10:39):
and then it was just no buenowhatsoever. But that was Bangkok,
not Hanoi. To my knowledge,
Vietnam has never been invadedby Kaijus or giant monsters.
I am open to being provenwrong, but to my knowledge,
Hanoi Canonically is safe for now.
Damn.
(11:00):
For now.
And for Hong Kong. Godzillawent there at least once,
but I was also thinking of Pacific Rim,
which has that whole big fight in Hongor in the Bay right outside Hong Kong.
Okay.
Kong. Yeah. I didn't.
Remember a Pacific Rimhaving a fight in Hong Kong.
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I just figured Hong Kong is such a famouscity in that part of the world that
there's no way it wasn't avictim of a kaiju at some point.
And it may have been in some othersas well. That's just one I know. Okay.
I also have one more just for funif y'all want to keep playing.
So this is the same question sort of,
(11:45):
but for the locals, we'regoing to go with Houston.
So which of the following horrorthings have never attacked
Houston in a streamable or rentablemovie? And one of these is a freebie.
Okay. Thank you for clarifying.In a streamable or rentable movie.
Yeah. Something you've seen or couldsee. Not something super ultra obscure.
(12:09):
Okay. I was thinking real life continue.
So aliens, slashers,
werewolves, or a giant swarm of bees.
(12:34):
I know not aliensbecause Independence Day.
And also 10 Cloverfield Lane, andI think a couple of others too.
Do you know how bad, I wantto say a giant swarm of bees,
but for some reason I think thatHouston was probably in a movie where it
was attacked by a hoard of giant bees.
(12:59):
No, those are two different things.
So a hoard of giganticbees and a giant swarm of
bees are two very different things and aswarm of the bees are small and there's
a ton of them.
Okay.
Run through the non Bnon alien options. Again.
Slashers and werewolves.
(13:20):
Slashers and werewolves.
I feel like if Houstonhad a werewolf movie,
we'd have talked about it by now.
I also feel like Texas has had slasher
movies, but maybe not Houston.
(13:42):
Yeah, maybe not Houstonspecifically. That's a good point.
So we can assume a fair bit of by
Houston, I'm not meaningjust inside the loop.
I mean theoretically everythingfrom Galveston to Livingston.
I still don't remembera Slack chain. My head.
I'm desperately trying to rememberwhich specific part of Texas Chainsaw
(14:06):
Massacre takes place in.
Yeah, I really thought that waslike West Texas, but maybe I'm just.
Did two, but we've got sometechnicalities going on here.
We do.
I can help clarify thetechnicality if you want.
Please do.
(14:26):
Okay.
So Texas Chainsaw Massacre wasfilmed in Bastrop and the gas station
that they shot,
a lot of that has been converted to abarbecue joint and we really need to go at
some point, Bastrop is areal life, very scary place.
Not because of the gas station,
but because that was the birthplaceof the Jade Helm movement,
(14:46):
which was basically thefirst great MAGA Russian
conspiracy thing that just went hogwild what, 10, 12, 14 years ago?
Something like that.Yeah. Not that, not that,
but there is at least one slasherthat I know we've talked about that.
I know you have seen Melissathat may or may not qualify.
(15:10):
Fuck, I guess I just kind ofspoiled that, didn't I? Okay.
X starts in Houston.
Yes, it does. That's right. Andwe just talked about that. Okay.
And for that matter,
there is a movie called Night Gamefrom 1989 with Roy Schneider that is
apparently awful, just truly terrible,
(15:32):
but is shot in Houston,
a serial killer starts killingpeople whenever the Astros win,
which in 1989 and a couple of yearsago would've been a pretty high body
count. Maybe not so much anymore.
Now he, no one dies.
(15:53):
They've had a comeback this year.
Oh, okay.
I mean, beginning of the year. Yeah. No,
my parents stoppedwatching out of disgust,
but they are actuallyback in contention for the
playoffs.
Oh good. Okay.
Alright. Assuming.
That Seattle doesn't win a singlegame for the rest of the year.
(16:18):
Anyway, continue.
I'm going to go werewolf.
Yeah,
I'm going to differ here.
I'm going to go withslasher and thinking that
the other Texas thingmight be a double bluff.
(16:40):
Okay.
Blocked.
In.
You're sure you don't want toguess the giant swarm of bees?
Well now I can.
As you can tell, I take my trivia tipsfrom the one and only Regis Philbin.
Giant Swarm of Bees. Giant Swarm of Bees.
(17:03):
What movie? I mean, I'm trying to think.
See, I feel like this leads to an obscure
streamable movie where that Houstongetting swarm by Tri Bees that you just
can't wait to tell us about.See, I'm kind of meditating here.
I feel like that.
(17:26):
As you can tell, I would bea magnificent poker player.
I can bluff with the best of them.
Alright, I'm werewolf.
Yep. I'm sticking with a serialkiller. Probably wrong. Go ahead.
Okay, so I wasn't trying to doublebluff you or anything. There are,
and there is actually a moviewhere Houston gets hit by a giant
(17:50):
swarm of bees. You're right,it's called The Swarm.
It's from 1978.
It is with the last personyou would ever expect to be
in this movie, and it'sgot him. It's Michael Kane.
How have we not started areligion around this movie? I.
(18:13):
Have no idea.
WhatWar?
The swarm from 1978.
Apparently the entire city gets destroyed.
Oh my God.
The trailer is a banger. By the way.
(18:38):
The YouTube tagline for thisis Killer Bees on the loose,
or should I say fly? I don'teven understand. Or on the fly.
Oh, I got it now.
That's still a weak tagline.
It's a really.
It has 9% on Rotten Tomatoes guys.
(18:59):
Yeah. Excellent. But I mean Michael Kane,
nobody does bad movies orgood movies like Michael Kane.
It's based on a novel.
Yes.
Okay. This
(19:22):
dare I ask where it's streaming.
I sure.
I can make an educated Yes.
I actually don't know.
So I just googled horror movies setin Houston and there's a Wikipedia
thing about movies set in Houston andthere was I think a Houstonian magazine
article that had a couple. Thereare not a lot, but let's see.
(19:48):
Richard Chamberlain, isn't it too.
You have to rent it,
but it's rentable from Apple andAmazon and if you have a YouTube
TV premium subscription. Yeah, hot.
Duke was in it. Whatis up with this movie?
(20:10):
Yep. No, I'm telling you this.This came out of nowhere.
Either the producer and director for thismovie were just magnificent salesmen,
far more than they were Good producersand directors or all of these actors
had severe gambling debtsat the exact same time.
Yes.
Alright, so this is by Irwin Allen.
(20:36):
He's known as the Masterof Disaster for his
work in the disaster film genre.
The movie poster.
None of the buildings except theAstrodome look, especially Houston.
But I'm assuming the Astrodomeplays a critical role.
(20:56):
Yeah, it was, I think at that point,the only famous building in Houston.
So it would.
Have to be, yes, arguably it still is.
Dude, the guy who directedand produced this was
also created and produced, lost in Space,
(21:16):
the original.
Yeah.
This is just fascinating to me.
I know, I know, right? Iknow this was a rabbit hole.
I fell down instead of doing myclass prep, which I am very, very,
very far behind on.
(21:37):
This was a better useof your time. Holy shit.
Absolutely.
Were people just bored? Were they justbored? Did they just stand around and go,
oh my God, this book isso weird. Let's do this.
We have nothing better going on.
I mean, it was the seventiesdisaster. Movies were in vogue
(21:58):
also, there was a lot of drugs.
I'm going to say that that probably hadmore to do with it than anything else.
So obviously we'll be.
Watching this obviously awkward timebetween the weed years and the cocaine
years. There were some magical thingsthat happened during that transition.
Wow.
(22:20):
Yep.
So apparently, sorry,
now I'm doing a deep dive and this willbe the last thing I say about this.
I know we got to go on, but Oh my.
God. Don't spoil anything.This is a masterpiece.
Don spoil anything. I'm not spoilinganything about the book. Okay,
so he produced and directedthe big Budgeted the Swarm
Beyond the Poseidon Adventureand Produced When time ran out,
(22:44):
these three films wereback to back to back box,
office disappointments with thefinal failure of when time ran out
effectively ending histheatrical film career.
So swarm was start of his downfall.
(23:07):
Yeah, Houston will do that.
Wow.
So I'm watching it this weekend.I don't know about y'all.
Absolutely.
(23:34):
So we've only got two moviesdropping this next week and one of
them doesn't really count.
One of 'em hits Friday, August 23rd.
It's called Hellhole andthis one is American,
but it's by a Canadianfamily who has done a
(23:56):
lot. Actually they did. Hellbendergot a lot of press for that.
That was great example of a really lowbudget movie that went big and huge.
This one's American, but I mentionit. Let me read the summary.
Hellhole hails from the filmmaking familybehind Hellbender and Centers on an
American led fracking crew thatuncovers a living French soldier
(24:19):
frozen in time from a Napoleoniccampaign whose body hosts a
parasitic monster. Now Ibrought it up, parasitic.
Monster does, but stuff.
Not why I brought it up, but veryimportant detail, presumably. Yes.
Is that the death hole?
(24:41):
No, I'll get into the deathhole. Don't you worry.
Did you happen to recognizeanyone from this trailer
in particular, the living Frenchsoldier hosting a parasitic monster?
He looked so, so familiar.
(25:03):
I did not.
So would it help if Igave you some hints in the
form of lines of dialogue.
Maybe?
Yes. Well, the sun drawsan eye. Oh dear. Hello.
Pretty one.
I would not have recognized him
(25:27):
without the fingers.
The finger demons. I know.
Oh my God.
Yes.
I need to watch that now.
Yep. That is Anders Hove.
AKA better known to thisaudience is Hove and
(25:49):
Ronald Vlo from Subspeciesone, subspecies two,
subspecies three, subspecies four,and wait for it. Subspecies five.
Which one? I just.
Had to.
Which were just masterpieces.
I mean, shit.
Honestly, there's a worm in my butt.
(26:12):
Get it out. I tried to use thefinger demons and they, no,
out of that really, really quickly.
I think it's after theBloodstone.
I will use any excuse todo my Redu impression.
To do.
I mean, he's the best. Heis absolutely the best.
(26:34):
So I will not rest.
And by that I mean I'm going to doliterally nothing to help make it happen
unless there's a Kickstarter.
But I will not rest untilSubspecies six is brought into this
world.
There are, by the way, a lotof movies called Hellhole.
There's actually 22 film thatis a Polish film as Polish
(26:56):
horror film in a Polish monasteryin 1987 called Last Supper.
I think that that is going tobe my next installment guys.
Oh, did we all watch it or did Ijust watch it and talk about it?
Which one? No.
We've talked about it.Hell, the Polish one.
Oh really?
It's magnificent. If you haven't seenit, you should absolutely watch it.
I loved it.
Did we talk about that? Maybeit was an episode I wasn't on.
(27:18):
Am I crazy, Grady?
I don't remember it.
And we've talked about Godzillaminus one on four separate episodes.
So even if we have talked about it,
there's nothing preventingMelissa from watching me and.
Giving her Absolutely. Yeah. No, Iloved it. I thought it was magnificent.
It's got a little bit of food horror.It's got a little bit of body horror.
It's got a great sense of humor. Ithought it was great. So yeah, watch it.
(27:43):
10 out of 10, it's on Netflix.
Nice. Yeah, that's totallydifferent from this hell hole.
Yes. Which.
I must stress is about a parasiticworm that crawls up people's butts.
I'm not spoiling anything. Theybring that up right in the trailer.
(28:06):
Yes, they do. Yes.
Plus it's just this love crafty andtentacle. You just expect it to go places.
We.
Probably could have used this movie whenwe were doing our Lovecraftian theme
where we couldn't find much.
That was where sex wasthat we still haven't done.
(28:29):
Where? What was.
Sex? Medusa.
That's true. Sex Medusa.I've still got the dvd.
Oh God, I forgot you got the DI.
Did. I bought the dvd. Yes.
Maybe I'll just break down andwatch it. Every time I suggest it,
y'all look at me like.
I'm up for it. It's just out of respectfor Emily and Dan. If they're there,
(28:52):
we need to give them something else to do.
Do we though?
Well, We have to do itbecause we do the podcast.
We're contractually obligated to watchthis movie. They're innocent bystanders.
Fair enough, fair enough.I like that logic.
(29:15):
I will admit,
I sprung the whole horror podcast thingon Emily after we met and after she was
more or less invested. It wasn'ta first date. What do you do?
I really like scary movies. I mean,maybe it came up, maybe it didn't.
Spent a lot of time talking aboutTrue Crime, which is sort of similar.
Yeah,
(29:37):
They're both grizzlypodcast fodder. I mean.
Yes. So the second one dropping this week,
and this is the lastone I've got for August,
and I'm assuming September thingsare going to ramp up pretty quickly.
I hope so, because Lowe's,
Roz and I went to Lowe'stoday and they've already,
(29:57):
they already had on the side of the door,
like the front door when you walk in awhole row of Halloween stuff and they
were setting up the little display rightopposite the front door right when you
walked in. So.
Halloween's doing the Labor Day. WhatChristmas does to Thanksgiving is.
Yeah, I'm not a fan.Holidays are meaningless.
(30:20):
If time is meaningless, like October,maybe late September is for Halloween.
Thanksgiving is November,Christmas, late November,
December. If it all just blendstogether, then what's the point?
I am with you on everyholiday except Halloween.
If I could have Halloween every day, Iwould have fucking Halloween every day.
(30:42):
I mean, sure. But kidsaren't even in school yet.
They're excited about back to schoolor not excited as it were. But.
Yeah, no, that would be my main issue.
If this as a kid back to schoolshould not be tainting Halloween.
When I was going back to school,
(31:04):
me and my mom already had a plan forpaper Machine, my costume for that year,
and we were already workingon it over the summer.
I had already picked mychoices. That is important.
Well, fair enough.
In fairness, that was Emily's responsetoo. She said, well now wait a minute.
People like us who take time to planthings and whose lives are chaos,
(31:27):
can't do anything really on shortnotice. We need time to strategize what
my phone, my computer.
We need time to strategize Halloweendecorations and I mean, yeah,
sure,
but I'm going to give that back to schoolstuff before I get my Halloween on,
so I dunno. But anyway.
(31:48):
Tuesday I always plan my Halloweencostume two months in advance
regardless of whether or not I know fora fact there will be a cause to use a
Halloween costume.
Fair.
We will definitely do something this year.
Last year was a little crazy the yearbefore that. Yeah, it was also crazy.
But this year definitely doing something.
(32:09):
The year before that we didthe silent disco. That was fun.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right, because Emily. That'sright. That was a lot of fun. Yeah.
Emily was the world's most pregnant.Winnie the Pooh. It was great.
Well.
Maybe that was Dr. Mann and Melissa.
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You were the little kid from Trickor Treat and almost asphyxiated.
And we got the best out of that.
We really did. We really did. Okay,
so Tuesday, the 27th ofAugust on screen box,
we've got the funeral from Turkey.
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Kamal drives a hearse for a living.
He's entrusted with secretly carrying thebody of a young girl at the request of
her family. One night he hears strangegroans from the back of the truck,
even though she hasn't got a pulse.
And the screen box publicity folks say it
does for zombies whatanother movie did for
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another horror thing. And I'm betting
y'all will be able to pickup on it. Maybe if not,
I'll just come out and say it.
Wait, say that. So saywhat you said again.
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I'm trying to wrap myhead around what you said.
So the screen box publicity folks aresaying that this movie does for zombies
what another movie did for vampires.
No, du.
Not that far back. No.Let the right one in.
Oh, okay. I like it.
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Because young girl afflictedwith something guy kind of trying to take care of
her. I could see the overlap.
I can see the overlap too. Yeah.
So one thing I will say,
and this is largely independent of themovie itself and more to do with the
people making it.
I've never heard of B-I-F-F-F before,
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but I love their logo.
Like a Raven in a Top Hatis just something I trust to bring me horror movies.
Yes, it.
Loses some points for not also havinga monocle, but the top hat works.
Like an evil Mr. Peanut. Oh.
Yeah.
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Yeah. But this one lookedall right. What y'all think.
I don't normally like zombie movies,but this one, no, it looks good.
Looked pretty good.
I'll say I had a little bit of adifficult time telling what was kind of
going on in the trailer.
This is one of those kind more vaguerepeat kind of trailers that we get.
And it was really difficult to find outon my own because the funeral is almost
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impossible to Google.
There's a song by Band of horses.
There is a couple other movies calledThe Funeral One, which is a big one,
which is like a mobster movie.
Even adding 2024 didn't help becausethat just got me a reality show.
Storying Alan Cumming.
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Yeah.
So what?
Yeah, like Boris, I am inBowl. Alan Cumming. Yeah.
Okay. Okay.
We're just doing the greatest hitsof classic British actors here.
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Alright, so who wants to go first?
I'll.
Okay, tell us about Deja vu.
Yes, so movie is deja vu. It's from 2023.
And again, this is fromthe Short verse website,
my favorite new short filmwebsite where you can look by
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genre and by countriesand things like that.
And you emailed them themand they were cool. They.
Were very cool. They were very, very cool.
So huge. Shout out to short verse com.
I highly,
highly recommend that you go there andcheck out their movies and especially
because these are up and coming filmmakersjust trying to get their name out
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there. And I think it's reallyimportant that we support up and comers.
So this one is by,
and I'm going to pronounce this reallybadly, so I apologize. Olivier le
Lemoine, L-E-M-O-Y-N-E.
It is French-Canadian.
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And the synopsis is a young woman meetswith her best friend in a local diner to
tell him about the fantasyshe recently accomplished.
But when a mysterious man enters, sheis struck by a feeling of deja vu.
So this was a nine minute short,
but it felt like itwas an hour long movie.
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And I'm not saying that in abad way. So for someone like me,
one of the two thingsthat are scariest for me,
I have really vivid dreams.Incredibly vivid dreams.
They sometimes include horror, naturaldisasters, things like that. But.
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Bees.
Bees.
Well they certainly will now, now.
But a lot of times I can't.
Sometimes I can tell 'em in a dream andsometimes I can't. Whether it's lucid,
lucid dreams or not, Ido have lucid dreaming.
And one of the things that happens indreams that also I see as a trope in
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horror movies that sometimesworks well and sometimes doesn't,
is looking at yourself in amirror and you're mirroring the
actions of the personthat's staring back at you.
But if you're looking at yourself,
those actions are laggedbehind by a couple of seconds.
But if you are scaring at someoneelse and they're not supposed to be
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you, and they're doing thosemovements as well as you,
both of those things are terrifying for me
because it's a big feelingof not knowing what's
real and not knowing what'sgoing to happen happen.
But having the feeling thatyou've been there before,
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I see you Grady.
Grady, it's,
But to have a movie that is so very,
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such a normal movie,
a woman is just kind of waitingfor her friend in a diner.
She did some naughty, naughty thingsthe night before. She can't wait.
She can't, can't wait to tellher friend what happened.
And to have all of theseunsettling things happen where
she'll be looking at a booth one momentand it'll have a couple in it and she'll
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look down and the next moment there'llbe somebody else entirely in the booth
and the colors changed a bitor the waitress comes over,
takes their order,
she starts having a conversation andthe waitress comes over again and takes
their order and everybody else is acting.
Yeah, the waits kind of like aguest lighty sort of situation.
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Yes. And so that's always, again,
a huge fear of mine becausein my head I'm like,
how do you know things are theway they are supposed to be?
Right? If I start seeingfricking ghosts or demons,
how do I know that that's just not mybrain tricking me And those things are
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actually going on becauseeither way it's real to me,
but it's not necessarilyweird about everybody else.
And both possibilities areequally bad for different reasons.
So either there'smonsters or you're crazy.
This filmmaker did such anamazing job of making you
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feel unsettled from the momentshe walked into the diner till
the end of the nine minutes.
And one of the biggest comments underall the comments of these that I
resonate with, it leaves you thinking,
and you'll be thinkingabout the short days later.
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And I really was, it wasincredibly unsettling.
So he wrote a statement,
the filmmaker statement that Iwant to read because I think it's
really interesting and I do think thatwhat he's saying is kind of powerful.
So deja vu is a film I wroteafter a dream I had where a woman
experienced a traumatic event before ithappened through a feeling of deja vu.
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I've seen many powerful films thatrelay the horror of the violence of the
event through its aftermath,
where the emotional impact on thecharacter can be much more dramatic than
seeing the actual events with deja vu.
I wanted to see if I could tell astory of horror through the protagonist
experience of the events,
but this time setting thestory before they happened,
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therefore experimenting on the notionthat anticipation can be one of those
most horrific ways to experience pain.
And I think that we have,he's absolutely right.
We have so many films where someevent happens and you don't see the
event,
but you see the aftermath and itbrings you into the feeling it brings
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you into the scene.
But how many movies really talk about that
anticipation of something isgoing to happen to you and
you can't do anything to stop it andyou don't know when it's going to happen
and that just builds andbuilds and builds and
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this ends before thehorrific thing happens.
And that somehow makesit even scarier because
you have an idea ofwhat's going to happen,
but you don't know whathappens. You dunno what it's,
and you can't see the aftermath.
Well and you don't dunno whenmaybe it's right after the cut,
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maybe it's three days later,maybe it's you don't know.
And I sat with thatfor a long time because
anticipation is one of thethings that scares me the
most as well. I don't like not knowing.
So when you have a moviethat is all about the
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not knowing and you don't knowwhat happens and you just have to
sit in that uncomfortable horror,
that blows me away.
I think that he could have madethis into such a great feature
length film except I think it workedreally well as a short because he was able
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to build in that tension withoutthe tension getting boring.
Boring or loosening,
which what would happen in thistype of movie if you made it
into a feature length film becauseyou do have final destination,
things like that. But again,that's really more about, yes,
the anticipation, but it's themavoiding the thing that happens,
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what's going to happen. It's notnecessarily about the anticipation,
it's about knowing that something'sgoing to happen and you actually
then see it happen and you can followthe characters like that and it gets
repetitive and boring after a while.
So because this was so short and
because he did it in such a waythat it was just the anticipation
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of horror coming onto her butnever actually reaching that
climax, terrifying,
100% recommend.
I'm going to say that one tofive scale of one to five,
quality and enjoyment. Five.And on the horror scale,
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I'm going to give this a three becausewhat you can make up in your head to what
happens is so much worse than anythingthat could have been put on screen.
That sounds right. That sounds good.
So he's done a couple of more films,
so I'm going to kind of delvemore into his filmmaking style
because I really think it's sointeresting and I like what he can
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do with just feelings.
Can I give you a homework assignment?
Yes, absolutely.
Have you seen come True?
No, I haven't.
Okay, don't Google it. Don't lookanything up. Just watch it. Grady.
You might like it too,but it's dream horror.
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It's definitely going topush your buttons. Melissa,
I think you might like it for differentreasons, Grady given your superpower,
but I think Melissawould, so if you all want.
Come true.
I think it's on Hulu, butas far as dream horror goes,
you're going to want to watch it inthe middle of the night pitch black.
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This is one,
it came out during the pandemic andit was denied a big theatrical release
because of the pandemic.It wasn't its fault,
but this is one of those movies thatI would've loved to have seen in a
theater. I'll also tellyou, my brother hated it,
hated it with a passion.
I'm probably really like it.
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I understand why Quentinhated it. I get it.
Quentin hated it for reasons thatI think you might dislike it Grady,
but I'm not sure and I don't wantto give anything away because.
Sometimes
Quentin and I have differences of opinion.Sometimes we have the same opinion,
but Quentin's a littlebit more vocal about.
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It, let's say.
I think this one might bemore in that direction,
but I think you would have funhating on it in a way that Quentin
doesn't. Okay.
I'm excited for it.
Yeah.
It's not foreign is it?
It's Canadian.
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Nice.
English Canadian. The.
Asterisk of foreign.
No, we haven't. I'vetalked about it before,
but I haven't put it on the list andwe haven't all watched it because
there are parts to the endingthat I think would both,
I don't want to say anything,but if you watch it,
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you'll understand why I hesitated, butalso understand why I think it's great.
Okay, so I'm.
Curious what that French Canadian,because that's what this one was too.
French Canadian can dodream horror apparently.
Well and French Canada.
I've been to Montreal for a conferenceand I thought all of Quebec was, yeah,
they speak English too. It's not thatbig of a deal. My conference was right,
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the hotel was right nearby where theNHL team plays like their arena and
you go 30 minutes in literally anydirection and it's a different world up
there.
We've got a friend who's going tograd school in Quebec City and it,
it's fascinating to hearBrian talk about it, but
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it's different.
It is much more different than I thinkthe English speaking world realizes.
Nice.
But it's also the same.They've got the same currency,
they've got the same government.It's a little yes, and.
Just everyone speaksa weird moon language.
And they've got an accentthat is very unique,
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let's say like French. Evenif you don't speak French,
you can tell when somebody's from Quebecand speaking as opposed to France or
Switzerland or Belgium oranywhere else. Okay. Anyway.
Should we talk about horny zombies ordo you want to talk about Fulco Grady?
I'll go ahead and talk about fulco.
Okay.
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So I did.
It is Japanese from 1964 written and
directed by Shindo.
Here is the summary paraphrasedfrom the TV tropes article
during one of the many bloody wars ofJapan's feudal period are two unnamed
female leads.
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An older woman and a younger womanawait the return of Kechi respectively,
the oldest son and the younger husbandwho was taken away to fight in the war.
If the farmland ravaged andmade barren by the conflict,
the two women have been survivingby murdering, wondering soldiers,
throwing their bodies in a dark pitthat I have affectionately nicknamed the
death hole and selling theirswords in armor to ushi,
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A skeevy black market dealer,
Kiki's friend and fellow soldier Hachireturns and tells the two women that
Kechi was killed on the way back.
Eventually the younger womanin Hachi embark on an affair,
which the older woman does not likeone bit leading to dark consequences.
Things are further complicated when acreepy samurai and a creepy mask shows up.
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That has so much going on.
I don't even want the officialsummary, I just want That sounds great.
Yeah. This movie has alot going on and could
arguably be considered one ofthe very first slasher movies.
There is a villain in a mask thatwrecks up a impressive kill count,
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and most of the characters are unpleasant,
horny assholes whose unpleasanthorny assholeness dictates the plot.
I mean, that's a slash or flick.
That's literally the definitionI think of a slash or flick.
I am maybe cherry picking orderand the cause and effect of things,
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but the elements are there.
And there's a death hole.
There is a death hole.
The death hole.
Plays a prominent role in the movieand actually looks pretty creepy.
It's just.
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A dark hole that things happen in.
Anyway, that's what she said. No, no,
no. So alright. The proverbial,
she is always very sex positive,
but also very happy.
She enjoys her manyescapades and adventures.
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What you just describedas a not fun. No, no,
the death hole. No.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
So the way this movie was. Yes, yes.
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Yes. So serious.
We talk about serious,important cultural issues.
Truth.
The horrors of war in ancientfield of Japan and death holes.
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Oh my God. The way the wholemovie is shot, it's really cool.
They found this really thick,it's called Suzuki Grass.
It kind of looks likethose bamboo forests that
you see sometimes where it's justreally thick and really tall.
That wasn't deliberate setup and
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just There aren't very manyaerial shots in this movie.
So most of the time,
the time the camera's just down therein the weeds with the characters,
so the audience can't really seetoo far beyond what's going on
right in front of them either.
And it just makes the wholething really claustrophobic and
especially the night shots.
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It's kind of cool that I watched thisso soon after Godzilla minus one and
Godzilla minus one minuscolor, because this movie,
a lot of the cinematography in this movie,
because it's black and white obviously,
and there are a lot of really cool shadingeffects in it they do that would not
have worked in a colorized movie.
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Just there's some shading and there'ssome night shots that are just really
creepy when the masked guy shows upthe way that he just kind of slowly
comes into frame and you see themask before you see anything else
and just, it's neat.
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I like that. And I was readingsome trivia about this,
and the casting crew actuallyfilmed in one of these giant
Suzuki grass fields inthe middle of nowhere,
and it was in the middle ofsummer and it was very unpleasant
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To the point that it isactually a major plot point in
the biographical film aboutthe life of Taji Tanama,
who's a fairly prolific Japaneseactor that played the black
market guy in this movie and was also
directed by the same guy that directedthis movie just several decades
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later. I think it may havebeen one of his last movies.
Was it unpleasant because of theheat or because of bug? The heat.
The bugs, the mud,
and apparently they had to,
the death hole that we see charactersclaim in and out of was not the actual
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death hole in the ground. They couldn'thave an actual death hole in the ground.
It kept filling with water so they had.
Death hole.
So they had to build a false deathhole that was like 10 feet tall
and have the actress climb up there whenthey had to film the scene where she's
climbing down into thedeath hole to retrieve the
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armor of all of thepeople that she killed.
That sounds incredibly unpleasant.
You're either up forthat or you're not. Well,
and it's the kind of thing that you thinkit's funny to be slimed and muddy for
a little while and then it starts to get.
Old.
It got to the point where they hadto threaten to not pay people to get
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them to stick around untilfilming was done. It was that.
Yeah, I believe it.
Anyway, this movie is basedon a Buddhist folk tale,
and I say based, it's actually,
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they take the name only Baba andthe general likeness of the mask,
and otherwise they just kinddo their own thing with it.
That's where the name comes from.
It's a specific kind of oldcrone demon in Japanese folklore
that could be fun.
It used to specifically be one thatstole fetuses from pregnant women,
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but it's kind of just graduallybecome just old demon woman.
One thing that I do need tokind of issue a disclaimer on
the Council of Dogs
has some issues with this movie.
There is a scene in order toshowcase the horror because
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they can't grow food,
they're just having to eat rats and
little wildlife.
And there was one point wherethe two women see a stray dog
and promptly kill and eat it.
We don't see any violence,just the dog runs,
the woman catches it.
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There's this very obviously 80 yardsand possibly not even actually a dog
Yelp.
And then it smash cuts tothem eating an obviously fake
crop dog that's roasting on a spit.
But it was still kindof an unnecessary scene.
I don't think the Councilof Dogs would pass judgment.
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They'd just growl at the movieuntil it left their chambers.
Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah,I think that's reasonable.
I think that's reasonable.
Well, I think so thiswas a wheel pick, right?
Yes.
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I think I put it on the wheel because Iread something somewhere about it being
a classic Japanese folk horror, but Idon't remember it literally anything else.
Yeah.
Now this movie is, I feellike I'm not doing it justice,
but this is one of themost famous movies in
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Japanese cinema.
Really?
And just, yeah, I
did not have time this weekend to doquite as much research on his cultural
significance aside,have liked. But this is
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one thing that I got from thisis it's one of the first real
post World War II anti-warmovies that was made in Japan
is they are not shy abouthow messed up war is.
And
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I kind of feel like maybethey used ancient futile Japan
as the setting in order to getaway with making that statement.
And they don't explicitly say that
it was this specific battle, but
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some of the research that I did on itand just some of the timing based on
what other people that watched thismovie and know way more about Japanese
history than I do wrote about it.
It strongly applied to take placeeither during or just after the
Battle of Mina Tagawa, which
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long story short, it was
kind of a Japanese equivalent.
The Alamo like a big famous losingbattle that was just kind of ultimately a
rallying cry for Imperial Japan.
And all of the sacrificeswill not be in vain. And
this was used kind of asa Japanese parable for
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loyalty and sacrifice to your governmentall the way through World War ii.
This was a thing that kamikaze pilots were
told to emulate.
And this is one of the firstmovies that really painted
this in a just unambiguouslynegative light.
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I,
so I pulled up the IMDB and I'm lookingthrough the images and I think I found
the death hole in the grass. Yes.
It's just this big.
Black.
Batch of nothing.
I mean,
I can see what you're saying about theshading in this photo and a lot of the
others because you,
nothing looks cool the way a goodblack and white movie looks cool,
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but also the way the dude isjust looking down the death hole,
it's unsettling in a way thatI can't quite put my finger on.
And if you know behind the scenes thatdude is actually perched up on a ladder
and hanging on for dear life,it kind of add some humor to it.
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Yeah, I could see that too. Oh,
you can kind of tell if youknow what you're looking for.
It almost kind of looks like awell that he's standing up on.
But if you hadn't told me, Inever would've guessed that.
Yeah, that's cool. That's cool.
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So you'd recommend it.
I would. Ocean picture Terra scale.
I'm giving it a two,
which is honestly a little bitgenerous because this movie's
not really that scary in atraditional horror standpoint and a
lot of the horrors of horror aspectof it, it's more sad than scary.
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But I am giving it a two just out ofrespect for the time and culture in which
the film was made.
I could see some 1960sJapanese audience being pretty
freaked out by some of thestuff that happens here
and quality, I'm giving it a high four.
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Cinematography is great.
Writing's great if the stuffabout the cast being mistreated is
true. I can't in goodconscience give it a five,
but I couldn't necessarilyfind Fair enough.
The only source I could findwas guy's biography, which
from everything I've read, therewere some liberties taken, let's say.
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Yeah, fair. Fair.
And enjoyment. I'm goingto give it a high three.
This is a movie that I liked readingabout and learning about a bit more than
I actually enjoyed sittingthrough. I do recommend it.
It's just like a lot ofold movies from its era.
It kind of drags a little bit at points.
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Yeah,
well you want to talk aboutsomething completely different.
Horny zombies.
Horny zombies, maybe thehorniest zombies ever.
And I know that there aren't thatmany horny zombies out there,
but it's still like aworthy title to award
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this film. This is cemetery man.
A cemetery man must kill the dead asecond time when they become zombies.
I would like to nominatethis for worst IMDB summary.
Ever award.
You kill them by fucking them?
No, no. He shoots them with a pistoland there is a great deal of that.
(01:03:23):
He does pew pew quite a bit,
but that really underscores the
craziness. So the original Italian title,
and I hesitate to put youon the spot here, Melissa,
because you let me for over a year,
pronounce it GAO instead of Are weever going to get over that? No,
(01:03:44):
we're not.
Because I trusted you andyou brought shame to your
ancestors. I.
Did. I brought shame to the restof my family that's still living.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Andthey're right, they're right.
The double L in Italian isnot the same as in Spanish. I.
Know, I know.
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And you weren't even doing it to troll me.
I would respect you if you'd managedto keep up that bit for that long.
You honestly thought I wassaying it right. I was not.
Jl LO.
Anyway, the original title forthis is De la Morte de la More,
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which if you knowanything about Italian is
of death of life or about death,
about life depending on your translation.
Yeah.
So I'm confused aboutthe horny part still.
Okay.
Do the zombies want to havesex with the cemetery man?
(01:04:52):
So let me walk youthrough what happens here.
So the cemetery man ishanging out at his cemetery
and he's got a best friend whowas a prolific French actor,
but the character is special needs andonly responds to everything with nah,
nah, nah. But the way he says it,
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you can tell if he means yes orno or if he is being suspicious,
something like that. And thedead basically. Yeah, exactly.
After seven days,
the dead come back and hehas to shoot them in the head
or brain them withsomething. But it's that.
(01:05:34):
Standard zombie disposal.
Standard zombie disposal. But it'ssimpler than most zombie flicks.
They're not coming back in hoards.It's one or two at a time if that.
Well,
so he's really lonely and he likes toread the phone book and cross out the
names of the people who have died.
(01:05:55):
And he gives this really morose narration.
One of the earliest lines of dialoguehe says is I would give my life to be
dead.
Which if that soundsmelodramatic and grandiose
and Italian. Yes. Seems like a.
Gen Z comment under amovie about global warming.
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Also. Yes.
And then there's a funeralbecause he's in a cemetery and the
cemetery is really impressive.Joe Bob talked about it.
Some of the shots they did inan actual nice big cemetery in
Italy, and they found anotherone that was deconsecrated,
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so it wasn't still technically a cemetery.
So they could do a lot of the shotsthat you can't do in still an official
cemetery. It was almost like thedaytime shots are in the nice one.
The church still considers sacred,and then the zombie, the gnarly,
naughty shots were in theother one or in a studio,
but it still worksacross the board. Anyway,
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there's funeral and there's justthe most gorgeous woman that he has
ever seen.
And she's mourning her husbandwho is considerably older and
he hits on her and theyfall in love and they do
it on her husband's grave.
And Joe Bob described it as the bestsex scene ever committed to film.
(01:07:25):
And he might honestly be right,
but the zombie husband gets upset,
comes back from the deadand bites her, which.
Is completely reasonable.Honestly at that point.
That's a completely fair reaction.
I got to say, I'm with thedead husband on this one.
Well, I mean in fairness,
he was dead and she said thatshe never kept anything from him
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in life and she wanted to share this withhim, which I think is a sweet gesture.
Wait, wait. Whoa.
So this was an adultery,
this was a threesome with asevere misfire in communication
because one of them is a zombie.
Not quite. No, no, no, no. So shedidn't expect him to come back.
(01:08:14):
She just wanted his spiritto be aware and present and
compersion type of thing. Wildly.
Underestimated the spirit's
willingness to.
She should have had the polyamory talkwith him before he died. She did not.
(01:08:36):
And things, communication. Say all that.
Communication.
Okay. Alright, hold on. It's important.
I'm still stuck on the factthat this was on purpose.
I assumed that they were just so hornythat they ripped off their clothes and
had to do it right there. No,they had sex on his grave.
On purpose.
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Because that was on purpose.
And in fairness,
they were both very horny and theyare both dropped dead gorgeous.
And you see a lot and you see a lot
of different times.
I know I bring this upa little bit too often.
I don't mean to just make this aconstant one issue wink for me, but
(01:09:21):
I am ace. That's okay.
I feel like if a woman was like, Hey,
you want to have sex on my husband'sgrave so that we can share this moment
with him, I'm not sure,
even if I wasn't taste that I'd be upfor that. Even if she was really hot.
(01:09:43):
I feel like there's a bunch of issuesthat would need to be addressed.
And if I killed zombiesfor a living and knew that
corpses periodically risefrom this exact graveyard that
we're going to do this thing, and Iwould have even further questions.
(01:10:05):
So in his defense,
they only come back on the seventhnight and the husband has already been
dead. She says, well, she claimed thathe had been dead for longer than that,
so he thought he was safefrom that particular zombie.
So when she gets bitten,she into a zombie.
(01:10:26):
And then he also has sex with her zombie.
So that's where I'm going to stop,
because up until now it soundslike I'm spoiling stuff.
But that's just like the first 20minutes of the movie and it somehow
ratchets from there.
So I am not exaggeratingwhen I say this is a bizarre
(01:10:47):
fever dream of film thatI can't decide how I feel
about it and it's justpreposterous and ridiculous.
But it is the perfect midnight ordrive-in movie. Like you get a beer,
you have some friends around,
you want to just watch something wherepeople say wacky shit and you see lots of
skin. Skin. Yeah.
(01:11:10):
This may be the very bestmovie for you to watch to
scratch that itch.
It's a very Italian movie.
Bob was saying, and ifyou're going to watch it,
watch it with the Joe Bobcommentary on Shutter,
because that was really well done. But
(01:11:33):
he said this was thefirst or the last Jello.
I'm not completely sure Ibuy that because in my head,
jello still has at least somepolice procedural element to it.
And this kind of does. But thisalso just feels like wacky,
weird fever dream. If thisis the very last yellow,
(01:11:54):
then the genre by 1994 hadevolved quite a bit away
from its roots. And that's possible.
But it is generally consideredthe last Italian horror movie
because Italians just haven'tdone horror really ever since
in 20 plus years.
(01:12:15):
It's like they all collectively decided,okay, we've achieved zombie six.
That's what we set out to do with thiswhole genre experiment when we started.
We're done, we're done. Rev it up guys.
Basically.
Wow.
(01:12:36):
I'm still also stuck on the fact thatthat was only the first 20 minutes of the
movie.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Things happen.
I figured that was atleast a second act thing.
Nope, I could tell you morethat would blow your mind,
but it'd be better to, Idon't want to spoil it.
I'll tell that part because thatcommunicates the soul of the film,
(01:13:00):
the soul and the.
Establishing moment.
The rather generous ambiancethat really brings the film
together, if you know what Imean. And I think that you do.
Wow.
So anyway, it's on Tub.
(01:13:25):
Was always going be.
It's on to me, the original and theJoe Bob commentary is also on shutter.
So yeah, it wasn't scary.
I don't know. I enjoyed it.It was at least four quality.
The cinematography is much, muchbetter than it has any right to be.
(01:13:48):
And the acting is better than it has anyright to be, just because people were,
they just decided we'regoing to do this crazy movie
quality.
I'm honestly not surebecause that Eugene Levy
scale. What am I lookingat? I don't even know.
(01:14:11):
Part.
I mean, I dunno. I don't know.
Other body parts have very decisiveanswers, but not holistically.
I'm just not sure.
(01:14:32):
So yeah, cemetery man.
Cemetery man.
Glad we ended on that.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Do y'all want to spin the wheelor Nah, I'm good either way.
That's going to depend
(01:14:54):
because while I was watching
the movie you did last week on Tubito see what I thought about it,
which incidentally, plus oneto most of what you said,
I discovered a movie from my past
that I think shouldqualify for the podcast.
(01:15:17):
But I know that it technically,
because most of the funding camefrom the States, probably doesn't,
but I kind want to put it to a vote.
What is it?
The Belco experiment. Yay or nay.
Oh, yay.
Sure.
100%.
(01:15:37):
Okay.
So I swear.
Yeah, the funding came from theStates, but it was filmed in,
I want to say Columbia, butI don't know if that's right.
Yeah.
And I remember us watchingit when it came out.
We saw it in theaters and hated it.
(01:15:59):
And I kind of want to watch it now in a
way,
different head space as faras work culture and just my own personal life than I
was in 2016. And if I like it now,
I want to explore why it works for menow, but didn't work for me in 2016.
(01:16:19):
And if it turns out I still don't like it,
I want to give it a verypublic kick in the balls.
Do.
It. I love it.
Do it.
So I swear I've looked that up onIMDB before and I swear at least once
when I did it, it said Columbia was acountry of origin. It doesn't right now,
but the Columbia part is actually partof the plot and it was genuinely shot
(01:16:44):
down there. So I'm countingit. Alright. Do it. Okay.
Absolutely. And I actually have a,
I want to do so maybe we don't.
Yeah, no, I'm thinking pausethe wheel for a little while.
Thank you for your servicewheel. We'll come back to you.
(01:17:04):
Yep. Thank you. You do love you. Yeah.
Thank you for one way used you last weekgiving me on Baba and not some weird
alt-Right. Crap.
That always we'll continue.
It's always a concern whenwe don't use you for a while.
Yep. Yep. Well,
if you're still listening toour super professional podcast,
(01:17:26):
give us a super professional reviewon Apple Podcasts or your podcast
player of choice. Follow us onthreads, follow us on letterbox,
shoot us an email. Tellyour friends about us.
Tell anybody that's into horrorthat, Hey, these guys are cool.
You should check 'em out.It would mean a lot to us.
And we will see you nextweek for Belco Experiment.
(01:17:48):
And I'm not sure whatMelissa's going to go with,
but I feel like we gave you a lot.Maybe horny zombies, maybe Dream Horror,
I don't know.
There's a couple of different ones.I might have to maybe do one or two.
Sure. I actually have noidea what I'm going to do,
so I'll figure something out. Butwe will talk to you all next week.
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