January 24, 2025 • 48 mins
Does evil come from within us, or from family vacations to weird islands? What about weird sci-fi tunnels that close randomly? This week, we get gothic as all get out with Nosferatu (USA, United Kingdom & Hungary, 2024) and try to keep from spoiling Get Away (United Kingdom, 2024), Nick Frost's latest quotable horror comedy. Also, Marcus gets creeped the hell out by the short film Tunnelen (Norway, 2016, AKA The Tunnel) which Grady and Melissa manage to shrug off.
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The biggest thing that I've beenseeing in the reviews. It's like
they didn't really explainanything. It's a comedy horror.
Do they have to?
And I mean, they kind of did.This is the kind of movie.
This is a lot like the Coronado T Trilogy,
partly because it has Nick Frost andscenes that go with music incredibly
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well. Let me put it this way.Iron Maiden is to this movie,
what Queen was to Shaun of the Dead.
Nice. Exactly.
The other way. This is the kind ofmovie that benefits from a rewatch,
and I should know because I've watchedthis movie like five times in the past
week, so.
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I have watched it.
They do explain things. Youjust weren't paying attention.
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So welcome back to Imported Horror.
This is the podcast that bringsyou the very best of gothic,
creepy,
shady monsters and spoilers set tomusic that will be stuck in your
head for years. I'm Marcus.
I'm here with my de thawing co-hosts.
Cocaine and Fat Dicks. I'm sorry,that's not my name. My name is Melissa.
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That's just my handle at the moment.
Fuck the Polar again. I mean, and Grady.
I feel like I really missed somethingby not having seen this movie that y'all
are talking about,
because you kind of did in classic Corno
Trilogy style. It feels very quotable.
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Yeah.
This may be the closest to a fourth Cornotrilogy movie that we're going to get.
It just was missing Simon Peg,
Simon Peg and someoneactually eating a Corno.
Yeah. Which they could haveeasily shoved in there with this.
Yeah.
That I can tell youright now would've been.
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Interesting. Choice.
Of words, Melissa.
I know, right? Even.
Without having seen it.
So this week we're talkingabout getaway with Nick
Frost that recently hitShutter and Melissa and Grady
are promising they'll try not tospoil it, but because it's Melissa,
I am not holding out too much hope about.
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That. I'm really wanting to try.
It really is important thatyou don't know the twist.
Yeah. Honestly,
I'm afraid I'm the one that's goingto blurt it out just because we'll get
there. We won't get there becausewe're going to try not to spoil it,
but we'll talk about it.
I snuck off and saw the Nosferatu remake,
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which isn't imported,
but is a remake of vintageOG imported horror that we
talked about a couple of weeks ago.
So I am counting it becausethat's the thing we can do.
It is based on the what is Undisputably,the very first imported horror.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
At least in terms ofmovies. Yeah, absolutely.
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But before we get to that,
we have a couple of interestingcoming Soons and a short
that I've been wanting to talkabout actually for a while.
I'm glad that I'm actually finallygoing to get the chance to do it. Nice.
So instead of MelissaShort, Marcus is short.
I'm short this week. I'mnot as short as Melissa.
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I am definitely shorter than Grady,who's probably the tallest person I know.
I am as taller than you, asMelissa is shorter than you.
If we line up, we form a perfect 45degree angle. That's super weird.
Nothing is a coincidence.
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So the first one we've gotactually hit last week when life
got a little bit in the way.
This is the damned this droppedon VOD and I hope you like
gothic horror because wegot a lot of it this week.
This is technically 2024. It is from
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Ireland, the uk, Iceland and Belgium.
I can't get IMDB to confirm it,
but I'm pretty confident itwas filmed in Iceland. It.
Looked like it was filmed inIceland. That is the vibe that I got.
If it gets that cold in Ireland thenit's not the island that I thought it
was. Let's put it that way. Fair enough.
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19th century widow has to make animpossible choice when during an
especially cruel winter,
a foreign ship sinks off the coastof her Icelandic fishing village.
This looks dark, this looks creepy.
This looks literally dark.
It might be hard to see what's going onand it looks very cold, all of which.
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This gave me voyage of the Deme vibes.
Yes.
Yes.
And for that matter,
Nosferatu and just about everygothic folk horror I can think
of, which is a good thing.I think if you're into that.
It also stars Joe Cole, who I really like.
I don't know if you'vewatched Black Mirror.
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He was the star of the Black Mirror
called not guess the dj,what is it? Hang the DJ
and.
Different things.
One of my favorite Black Mirror episodes,
and so I'm excited just becauseI really like him as an actor.
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The only black mirrors I've seen,
actually the only one I'veseen is the Star Trek one,
which was really good and I thought areally faithful adaptation of Star Trek.
But the Pig as a pilot kind of turnedme off the whole season, the whole show.
Keep trying to get.
Me into it and it just.
Hasn't happened. That's a part of it.It's just such a small part of it.
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None of that makes me want towatch it, I'll be honest. But.
I do and I are very different people.
I do kind of want to watch TheDamned that did hit theaters,
at least limited theaters. It was herein the Houston area for a little while,
but only at a few theaters.
The closest one was that giant one over
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on 59 on the way to Livingston,
actually the one where we sawunbearable weight of massive talent
and late night with theDevil and Immaculate.
Or half of late night with the devil.
Half of late night with the devil.
But good reputation.
I want to say that that's goingto be on shutter at some point,
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but I don't know for sure. Soyeah, don't hold me to that.
The other two are hitting shutterand because I am prepared and I have
notes,
I am not stalling while I try tofind where the saved image was.
There we go. Okay. On the 24th ofJanuary, that's today, we have grafted,
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which the trailer said was a cross between
animator and mean girls, whichif that doesn't scream, Melissa,
I don't know what does.
Yeah,
this is my first watch of thistrailer and I watched it five or six
times. I'm really excited for this.
A bright but socially awkward exchangestudent takes her craving for popularity
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to horrifying heights.
I feel like maybe that'sunderselling things.
You did. One of the things theycompared it to was the re animator.
So I would venture against that. Yes.
Yeah. So I've been seeing it in,
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a lot of people have commented underthe trailer and in other places
that it reminds them of substance,which came out this past year,
but it's not. It hasnothing to do with that.
It's not the actual, it's just bodyhorror substance with body horror.
This is body horror. So if you want tosay it's a body horror, that's fine.
But I think sometimeswe haven't had so many
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body horror films close to each other.
And so if you want tocompare it to something,
this is not the movie to compare itto substance. It's not the movie.
Have you seen the substance? Oh,
other people besides us havea very limited reference
pull for body horror compared tous here on the Horror Podcast?
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Well, that's a fair point.
Yes. The age of Cronenberg is, I mean,
it's never over for us. It mightwax and wane for normal people.
All you normies out there listeningto this podcast, all three of you,
the substance actually did reallywell in Oscar nominations. That came.
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Out. It wasn't bad, honestly. Itwasn't my favorite, but it wasn't bad.
Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll get into that.
But I think that was sort of asurprise hit in a lot of ways.
And so maybe that's whypeople are comparing it,
but the body horror andgrafted definitely looks
serious. Looks pretty graphic.This is from New Zealand.
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It's not a horror comedy.
I want to say that I feel like mosteverything we've done from New Zealand has
had a comedic element to it, andI don't know that this does. So.
It's going to make it more interesting.
And then on
the 27th of January,
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we have the VOR delac,
which is again creepy,
gothic folk horror calledand just wants everything
this week because that's all we'regetting. And I'm And another vampire.
And another vampire,yes. This is from France.
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And if you didn't know that,
you just would watch thetrailer or presumably the first 20 seconds of the movie
and you would know lost ina hostile forest. The Marqui
Dre,
a noble emissary from the King of Francefinds refuge in the home of a strange
family. That again,
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I think is maybe underselling.
Things important safety tip that the
characters in the trailer forthis movie did not follow.
If a man wearing whitepancake makeup and a
colonial English personoutfit is dancing in the
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middle of the road, do not engagehim. Do not compliment his dancing.
Do not make eye contact.Just keep walking.
I feel like that's a lesson. Otherwisea horror movie will happen sometimes.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, Imean this is historical.
By that I mean it was set in
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back in the day where clown makeup wasn'tclown makeup, I guess. I don't know.
But yeah,
it looked like if you watch Nosferatuand you want to scratch that itch
again, but in French, thisis probably the way to go.
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That is very specific. Someoneout there is going to need.
That. It's dark and I don'tknow if it's tonally dark,
but I know it's literally dark becauseIMDB is playing the trailer again and I'm
looking at it and
it does a lot with naturallighting and that's really cool,
but it's also kind of hard to see.
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And it sets that tone of this is gothic,But
Also French, which has adifferent vibe. Gothic,
I dunno,
sorry for butchering the Frenchlanguage and any cultural
sensibilities about y'all'sgothic horror that you have.
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So yeah. Anyway, that's on.
Shutter too. I'm not youpeople made under Paris.
You have a sense of humor aboutthis truth. You proved it. No.
Yeah. And that's it forJanuary. So relatively slow.
I'm going to get the threadsback up and running for February.
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Got some strategies going toget those posts brewing again.
But I'm excited. I think February,
there's at least a littlebit of romantic romcom
horror because Valentine'sDay and everything else.
So I don't know how much ofthat is international, but
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so I am short this week. You are notshort. I am short this week. You're short,
short, short.
So this was the tunnel,
or tunnel in family is caught.
IMDB is just crushing it this week.
A family is caught in slow movingtraffic with the hope of making it home
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safely. Now you might think,
isn't that every single dayin the Houston metro area and.
Yes.
Yes it is. Except it's not slowmoving traffic. It's Mad Max.
Yes. And also we.
Don't have tunnels. And after seeingthis movie, I'm glad for that.
That's true. That's very true.
So this is Norwegian.
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It was directed by Andrea Overal,
who also did second time we're going tomention it because it's a great movie.
Last Voyage, the Demeanor,
which I think is criminally underratedand also gothic and historical.
He did troll hunter, whichwe all thought was great,
that's got a real sense of humor.
And he did autopsy of Jane Doe, which is.
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Also Oh, so good.
Pretty gothic and really good.Yeah, I really enjoyed that.
So I haven't seen this in a littlewhile because my toddler would
not go down for sleepy time. And everytime I'd try to sneak out of the room,
she'd look at me and she'd go,dad, dad, no. And I'd be like,
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I already gave you likefive hugs. Go fuck to sleep.
And she just looked apathetic. Dad, dad,no. And of course she got another hug,
and I didn't have timeto rewatch this, but
I taught a class on filmreviews, like journalism,
film reviews last spring.
And we did a short movie every class.
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And one of my students shoutout to Blaine, if you're listening, suggested this.
And so we just watched it coldand it has haunted me ever
since. And it was a good exercisebecause it's not in English,
so they had to do alittle bit more digging.
I had to do a little more researchon the background and everything.
And there is definitely background here,but what did y'all think about this?
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I didn't get a chanceto watch it. I'm sorry.
I thought it was creepy. But also feellike there's some missed potential.
Yeah. How so?
Well, I mean, we see thetunnel close and that's it.
Sorry, I'm sorry to spoil theend, but it's a 14 minute movie
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and there's a lot to be said for the
trope. Nothing is scarier
and I don't think that workedin this case. I wanted to,
I was expecting,
it probably isn't fair to voice myown expectations on a movie like this,
but I was expecting somethingmessed up to happen in that tunnel.
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And probably something did,but we didn't get to see it.
I just realized that I don't think that,
I think I've seen this just not for this
particular podcast this past week,
because now I'm remembering there's atunnel that automatically closes people in
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it every so often.
It's random. Yes.
Right, because of some dystopian.
Yes.
Stuff going on. Okay, so yes,I have seen this then that.
Or Melissa, same idea.
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Well, so what did you think?
Was I the only one that wasthoroughly creeped out by this?
No, I thought it was anti climactic.
What?
Yeah, I mean, I was creepedout while watching it.
I was getting into the buildup. It's justthat once nothing came of the buildup,
I was like, oh, okay.
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I mean, literally
that's my own expectations.Not all movies have to do that.
Just that was my vibe thetime that I watched the movie.
Fair enough, fair enough. Yeah.
This has stuck with me forat this point nearly a year.
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This really pushed my buttons.
And I think normally I'mnot a less is more guy,
but in this case,
because it's obvious what's happeningand the acting is strong enough that
everybody is really nervousand really tense and it's not
some great mystery, but
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yeah, was definitely aless is more type of thing,
but maybe because there'sseveral kids in the
car and in the othercars and everything else.
And so maybe this waspushing dadda Noha buttons.
Not everybody.
I can totally see.
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But yeah.
So normally I am a less is more girl,right? I am the one that's like, yes,
I love less is more. Well yeah,you're like, I'm remember. Yeah.
I'm remembering why Isaw this short and it was
because they kept showing theclip on TikTok of the ending
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and I'm like, oh my God, Ihave to know what happens.
I kept seeing this clip andit took so long to find this,
and then I realized that that waswhat happened, and I'm just like.
I can see where that wouldbe an issue. Yeah, no.
I'm flying on the play.
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The TikTok equivalent of PeterGriffin saying it was his sled.
I just saved you two long boob less hours.
Right, exactly. Yep.
That yeah. Ah, yeah, no,
I'm going to give you a pass onthat one because that's tiktoks bad.
You can't do that. You.
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Can't just show me thelast couple of minutes.
Why would you, without context, it'snot going to make any sense at all.
So this was back way back whenTikTok would only allow you to play
minute clips or 32nd clipsor three minute clips.
So what people were doing was wherethey were downloading only three minute
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clips. So they were downloading afull movie, but in three minute clips.
So if you were scrolling.
So you accidentally saw thelast three minutes first.
Exactly.
Okay. Why would you do that.
Though? Why not just watch?Because watch it on YouTube.
Keeps taking it down.
Yeah.
It's.
Not down on YouTube. It's up onYouTube, but I think it was on.
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Short.
But when you try to upload it yourselfso you get credit for it and get to
introduce people to it,
YouTube takes it down becausethey're all copyright Nazis.
Well, yes. Then.
How dare they? I'm not going to lie.
I've watched full episodesof crap on TikTok.
It shows that I would never even thinkof watching Chicago Med. I'm like,
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but I have to find out what happens.
I'm not even mad about it.
Maybe you should be walk.
So this creeped the hell outof me. It was one of those,
I thought it was oneof these really tense,
really build up the anxiety youcould feel. And it difficult,
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it seemed like it was relatively bigbudget for a short movie and for a sci-fi
short movie that's hard to do.
But it didn't rely on the specialeffects or anything like that.
But they were just kind of,
there was this actually realisticenough to not take me out of the moment.
Super intricate sci-fi setting that justhappens to be the backdrop for all this
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existential dread,
which I think is why it surprised me that
they didn't use some of those effects to
show what happens. But.
Yeah, I mean, I get that. Get it.
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Creeped me the hell out.And I actually read the,
it's curious becausemost American dystopia,
I feel like this is the part that hasbeen playing in my head since I saw it.
We should do that for the podcast.We should do that for the,
so most American dystopia I canthink of come from the government
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collapsing.
It's like a zombie outbreak andthere is no more government.
And that's where the dystopiacomes from more often than not,
or sometimes it's likecapitalism run amuck.
But I feel like most of thetime there is no government,
and this is the opposite extreme.
This is extremely Orwellian,
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extremely organizedauthoritarian dystopia that
almost has this, I don't want to spoil it,
but it has this way of rationalizingthings that things sort of makes sense on
paper in a way that the zombieapocalypse or civil war, the A 24 movie,
the Alex Garland one thatdoesn't, that's just anarchy.
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That's a very different vibe from this.
And maybe that was part ofwhy I liked it so much too.
Yeah.
I will say the propagandaelements of this that did
come the closest to creeping meout of anything in this movie.
So do y'all want to go firstor should I run through? No,
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pu first.
Why don't you go ahead andrun through Nosferatu first.
So this has been out since Christmasand I finally got to see it
and I kind of enjoyed it like thatbecause I snuck down to the movie theater
just down the road. And by this pointit had been relegated to the smaller
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theaters in the smaller rooms,
and it was cozier, it wassmaller, it was late at night,
and that was the way to watch this movie.
I need to know about the necrophilia.
You don't though. Youreally don't. You don't.
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A gothic tale of obsession between ahaunted young woman and the terrifying
vampire infatuated with hercausing untold horror in its way.
So I reviewed this on letterbox.
I gave it five stars and thelittle heart saying I liked it.
That's important.
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It is very important because I feel likevery often I put the little heart on
things that I give like one or twostars and it's not a consolation thing.
You're garbage, but Ilove you. That's okay.
This was not garbageand I really enjoyed it.
Gothic and bewitching.
This faithful adaptation captures thebleakness and soul of the original silent
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film without coming to film. Snobbery.A few moments are trying too hard.
I would argue the one that Melissajust mentioned is in that category,
but the vintage ambiance.
Is it's difficult not to try toohard when you're doing necrophilia.
That's true. That's true.
The vintage ambiance ishaunting and memorable,
and that's probably the big takeawaybecause the cinematography and the costume
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work and the makeup workwere creepy as all get out.
I think the problem that I hadwith the original watching,
the original notes fra to was that themedium sort of got in the way of the
story.
I couldn't look past the limitationsof the form of the silent film
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and actually appreciate the narrativebecause it was such a different medium.
It was such a different form.It was an academic exercise,
not an immersive storytelling.
It was like the cinematic equivalentof trying to read Shakespeare.
You almost need cliff notes for it.
Right, exactly. Exactly.
And this did a reallygood job of grabbing that
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narrative and modernizingit enough to where it sort
of the form disappeared. You didn'tthink about the movie you were watching,
you were just thinking aboutthe story and how creepy it was,
but it's still maintained.It's mostly the same story.
It's mostly the same narrative.They had a lot of the same details.
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They had a lot of the samedialogue. So it was really good.
And you believed, not thatthis was a silent film,
but it was sincerely set in the 1830s.
It was really well done andit got Oscar nominations for
cinematography, costuming,
and I think makeup did notget it for adapted screenplay,
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which surprised me alittle bit, but big deal.
And it stuck with me. Now,
I like gothic horror and I like stuffwith natural lighting and I was in the
mood for something bleak,
and so you got to kind ofsign it up for all of that.
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Don't go into this thinking, oh, it'sgoing to be so scary. And the jump skiers,
no, that's not,
you hear dialogue thatsounds unnaturally low.
You see creepy things.You have creepy feelings.
And Willam Defoe, just willamdefoes all over everything.
And he's magnificent.
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He has some, he is the onlylogical choice for that role.
Oh yes, he really is. Yeah,no, and he's perfect for it.
And the whole, I thought aboutit and I kept thinking about it,
kept thinking about it.
I had to look up a couple ofarticles to help me understand it,
but at the end of the day,
take everything WillemDefoe says at Face Value.
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And the movie makes a lot of sense.
You just have to kind of sitwith it and kind of marinate it.
And any good folk horror,
it is got this tension betweenmodernity and tradition,
between spirituality and science,
between belief and
skepticism. It just nailsit across the board.
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Now you do have to sign up for itbecause even I signed up for it,
I was creeped out. I reallyloved the movie. Even I,
in the back of my headat the end of the movie,
there was a horrible littledemon whispering in my ear and
singing A Lonely Island song.
And if you've seen either of themovies, which Lonely Island song it is,
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and it's both completelyappropriate and wildly,
wildly inappropriate for thetone and the ending of the movie.
For a minute. When you said a littledemon like screaming in your ear,
I thought you were talking about Rozand I got real confused why she started
singing you a Lonely Island song.
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It makes more sense now though.
Yeah, no, she will not be watchingthis movie anytime soon. Nope.
That is a hard pass.
Maybe like 16 years.
She does love that Lonely.That is her theme song.
She is not part of your system. In fact,
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she will throw it on ground
and it doesn't matter how long youspent thinking about dinner and cooking
dinner, if she looks at it and goes, nah,
if you try to put it in hermouth, it's going on the ground.
There's just no two ways about it.
That's not the song that was playingin my head at the end of Nosferatu.
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Same group though.
Would be really confusing. If it was.
It would be really confusing. Yeah,it also, I don't want to spoil it,
but this is one of those examples of areal short clip that could make a TikTok
without really spoiling anything,
but there is some magnificent dialogueabout a cat that I don't want to spoil,
but.
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Interesting.
The cat is awesome and I was too
shellshocked by the end of this movieto check and see if the cat got the line
in the credits. So when Irewatch this, I'm going to check.
The cat did not die, did it?
I'm not answering that.I'm not answering that.
But what I can answer isthat the cat was magnificent
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and the cat was named the character,
the cat's character's name was Greta,
which was after the actress who played
the heroin in the original was alsonamed Greta. So that's sort of a.
Throwback.
Yeah, no, that's really cool.So I thought it was really neat.
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I thought it was gothic as fuck, butyou kind of have to sign up for it.
Wouldn't all sex sceneswith vampires be necrophilia
technically?
Oh, that's a good point, Grady.
But.
I.
Don't think either one ofthese were vampires right yet.
Well, I'm not going to help you spoila movie you haven't seen. Come on,
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Melissa.
Come.
On, comeOn.
Come on there. Fair. Fair.
But yeah, no,
we're so used to vampires being likeTwilight E or what we do in the shadowy,
and this is, no, this is old school.
This is like whatevercame before old school.
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This is like beyond vintage.
I love that.
This creeped me out.
I'm going to go ahead and put it afive on the tear scale and quality and
enjoyment are also fives. This was good.
That's a big statement.
Yeah. Yeah. I try not to do that lightly.
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But yeah,
I felt there's just thisnihilistic sense of dread that
came over me after thatfinal scene ignoring
the voice in my head, singingLonely Island, at least
know of the Vampire Mytho I can. Itwas not the one about the boat. No.
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I'll say that. Boats doplay a role in this film,
and one really awful hot take Ikeep seeing online is why would a
vampire take a boat fromPennsylvania to Germany,
man? Like meh. Hey, you do knowGermany has a coast, right?
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They have beaches. You know that, right?
And I'm not sure the internet knows that.
No.
But also it's set inyesteryear and do you want
to take a horse-drawn carriage over theCarpathian Mountains or do you just want
to get on a boat? Be honest with me,
and at least one or two Reddit threadshave argued that Dracula of the book
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covers that because if you're on a boat,
you can go around like customs andborder checks and everything else.
And in the book he's going toEngland, which is an island.
So he didn't really have a choice,
but still that felt like a lame hot take
to me. And as.
The board game Fury of Dracula has proven,
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Dracula is an old manthat is afraid of trains.
Yes. Important detail. Ireally want to play that again.
I have been strategizing in my headever since we played it the last time.
And I have a plan. I have a plan.
I know exactly where I'm going tostart when I get to play this Dracula.
I'm excited.
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Where are you going to start?
I'm not going to tell you.
Why, because.
Just tell us. I'm going to start in Suki,
that Hungarian town that none of uscould figure out how to pronounce.
We'll, never remember. You could tell.
Us. No, it's Suki. I'm tellingyou, I will start in Suzuki.
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What a vampire lie.They're not capable of it.
Exactly.
You're right. They're not.
Totally truth. Truth. Sotell me about Getaway.
Oh God.
Getaway.
You can go first.
Okay. It came out on Shuter recently.
(34:34):
We actually did it as one ofour coming Soons two weeks ago,
and we were going to do it lastweek, but then life happened,
the Wikipedia summary,because the IMDB summary,
we're not talking to theIMDB summary right now.
A family owned holiday in Sweden travelsto a remote island to take part in a
(34:54):
peculiar holiday tradition.
So this is Nick Frost.We all know Nick Frost.
He is the F of the CoronaT trilogy that's still
making horror movies,
(35:16):
and this may be his bestnon Corno trilogy thing.
That's awesome. I do not say that lightly.
Better than Attack the Block. You think.
Oh, I forgot he was at Attackthe Block. Close second.
Close second. Yeah.
(35:37):
I feel like this remindedme so much of Hot Fuzz,
but it was kind of like acombination of hot fuzz,
scary movie and Adam's family values.
Oh my God. I am sold. Which.
People may be wondering, people maybe wondering Adam's family values.
(35:58):
Yes. Think about the Camp
Camp song that Wednesday does.
Yep. Okay. Yeah. Was not making thatconnection until now, but yep, yep.
That is the.
Whole play. That whole play.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
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So Melissa and I are having to bevery vague about this because this is
one of those movies that you reallyneed to go into it as blind as possible.
Yeah.
If you like Nick Frost's usualBody of Work, you will like this.
It is going to go some directionsyou may not expect it to,
(36:46):
but that's just part of the ride.
Nick Frost is so fun.
He has the best rolesbecause he really brings his
self to it,
but his comedy and it'sjust so perfectly timed
and he can be just so awkward,
(37:09):
but so incredibly naiveat the same time and it's
just great. It's great. I love him.
Well, Emily and I watched TruthSeekers and I really enjoyed that.
It's a bummer if not for the pandemic.
I'm sure it would've gotten asecond season, but that was fun.
(37:31):
Yeah. The energy he bringsis one scene in the climax
that I can bring up without spoiling itbecause it's just kind of a funny joke.
While all the action inthe bloodshed is happening,
he's arguing with his wifeabout a jazz or size class.
I can't at all see Emily and I doing that.
(37:55):
It's not even a little bitthat we would never, no.
I'm so, it's funny, you shouldhave kept up street jazz.
I fucking ate straight jazz.
So their relationship too in this is
really adorable,
(38:17):
but they call each other mommy and daddy,
and my first thought before Igot towards the end of the movie
was, I am so happy that,
go ahead, Grady.
Call me daddy.
(38:41):
I had forgotten about that. Yeah.
This movie is basically whatunwelcome should have been.
This is unwelcome done, right?
Yes, exactly. Exactly.
All kinds of perfect.
I mean, if I'm being completely honest,
(39:01):
I used to think that wasweird until I had a kid and
I refer to Emily asmom enough to r that it
does sort of burrow into your brain.
I could see how that mightjust replace some vernacular.
Now that's awkward when your ownparents are around pretty frequently,
(39:23):
and that can get confusing, let's say.
But I don't know. I don't,now that I have a kid,
I don't think that's asweird as it might seem.
It was weird when Chief O'Brien did it.
No, that's true. Yes, that istrue. It was weird and unwelcome.
(39:44):
It was very, everything aboutunwelcome was weird. Yeah,
I don't know about that one.I don't know about that one.
The other thing thatthere were parts of it,
and I know this is a horrorcomedy and it is so much fun,
but there were parts of it that I waslike, oh, this would creep me out.
(40:07):
There was one part where thedaughter is not sure if there's
other people in the house. Somethingweird is going on in the house,
and so she goes over to the mirror andI'm not going to say what happened,
but she goes over to themirror and blows on it.
So you got some condensation andshe draws half of a heart waiting to
(40:27):
see what would happen with the otherhalf if somebody would do something and
that part creeped me the hell out.
That was terrifying.
There are some bits that happenedin the latter half of the
movie where I will,
(40:50):
like I said,
this goes places you don't normallyexpect a Nick Frost horror comedy to go.
And there got to be kind of a momentwhere all bets were off, so to speak.
Well, so that would be my question.
How much horror is it andhow much comedy is it?
Because usually horror comedieshave to pick at some point,
and this one doesn't pick No.
(41:12):
Really. No, no. This one.
Just slams the two together.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
And it's awesome.
And admittedly might have a little bitto do with some of the negative buzzing
they got because some peopleprobably expected it to be,
(41:36):
the trailers definitely make it looklike it hits way more on the comedy.
Yeah.
This is at least a three on themotion picture Terror scales,
not the most grizzly thing we've lookedat by a long shot, but yeah, definitely
(41:56):
a little more intense than theCoronado Trelegy would yet.
I agree.
More or less than Tuckerand Dale versus Evil,
which is the other horrorcomedy. That's sort of the.
Different.
Different.
Yeah, I don't different.
I would say more,
(42:16):
but justifying that would have a hellof a lot of qualifiers that I don't want
to do. That's okay. That's okay.
Yeah,
I don't think I can comparethe two because for me,
and I know, so when I thinkabout both movies side by side,
I understand where a comparisonwould come into place.
(42:39):
But for me, even thoughthey're so similar,
they're also so differentin terms of execution
and acting and all ofthat, that I couldn't,
there's no way that I could putthose into a category together,
try to compare them like that.
Okay. My brain just went therebecause that's one of the few,
(43:02):
I didn't think it was scary,but it was definitely gory.
I could a lot of horrorcomedy skimp on that,
or they make it completelyprepost just like dead snow.
I have to say, this movie surprised me,
just like Barbariansurprised me, just like
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it really did things. It went placesthat I wasn't expecting it to go.
And it did it in a way whereyou were still scared at Grady.
I absolutely agree withthe three with you on that,
but it was still funny andstill incredibly entertaining.
So I don't know how they pulledit off, but they pulled it off.
It was the perfectelements now. I loved it.
(43:49):
I'd give this whole thinga five. I don't have
anything negative to say, butmainly because I love Nick Frost so.
Much. Yeah, really,
if I were nitpicking,
I would say that there were some basic,
the Spey is trying really hard. WhenI compare it to the Corno Trilogy,
(44:12):
it's like pulling all of the stops.It's got all the foreshadowing,
it's got all, there are some awesomescenes set to music in this. Oh.
God. So good.
Movie.
This movie got me into Iron Maiden, but.
And that's thing that I haveto thank this movie for,
(44:33):
and another reason I'm giving it a five.
But
Really the only complaintI have, and it's so minor,
I'm reluctant to even say it, is,
it's just not quite as punchy as somethingthat would actually be directed by
Edgar Wright. But I mean, that's adumb thing to complain about. So yeah,
(44:55):
fight for quality, fight for enjoyment.
Well, and I like that Nick Frost,
because he was always thesidekick in the Corno trilogy,
and I like that he's kind ofstanding on his own at this point.
And I get the sense he's notthe sidekick in this movie,
(45:15):
and he certainly wasn't in truth seekers,
or I guess he kind ofwas in Attack the Block,
but not quite the same way. I.
Didn't even remember hewas in Attack The Block
and I attack the Block.
I thought he was kind of arelatively minor character in that,
(45:36):
unless I'm just completely misremembering.
No, he was, and he was funny. Heplayed it had a purpose. Yeah.
I'm remembering him now. Hewas the drug dealer, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he wasn't,
wasn't the side the secondhe wasn't Robin to Simon Pegs
(45:56):
Batman. He was sort of somewhere else.
So, no, that's fantastic. I definitelywant to check this out. I'm not sure,
actually this would bea good one because I,
after Nosferatu last week, Ireally want something lighter.
Yeah. Then take this.
(46:18):
It's not going to be aslight as you expect it to be,
but it is definitelylighter than Nosferatu.
So this will be a good palette clean.
And I may be saying that because I wantyou to see this movie so I can talk to
you straight about it.
Yeah, this is killing us.
Do you know how many morethings I want to quote.
I know.
Or I want to talk aboutthat can't pretty do.
(46:39):
It. I can see you both physicallyclenching and restraining yourselves.
So I mean, for what it's worth, no.
Ferra had some magnificentquotes too. One,
I can't say it, but it'sno one other than Willam,
Defoe could deliver that line.
Apparently no one other than WillamDefoe can do a lot of things.
(47:02):
I mean, yes, that's true. He'smagnificent. He is magnificent.
A true gift to the genre, and I thinkunderrated just across the board,
and we're not going to go there. Iknow what you're thinking, Melissa.
We're not going to do that. We're notgoing to talk about that. Don't do that.
Chaos rains.
(47:23):
So if you're still listening,give us a shout out on threads.
Follow us on letterbox, send us anemail. Tell your friends about us.
Tell anybody in your life into horror.Say, Hey, give these guys a shot,
because I think we'repretty cool. I don't know,
maybe that's not high praise. My wifelistens to our podcast, so there's that.
(47:47):
Marcus, did I teach you nothingabout being cool? Dont say, I think.
We're pretty cool. No, no,no, no, no. Of course not. No,
you were so bad at unquoteteaching me to be cool.
I just assumed you were trolling,
and so I aggressivelydisregarded your advice.
(48:08):
Don't worry, your daughter will take it.
Yeah, I don't know. She doesn't needany help. She already runs the entire.
The biggest thing that I've beenseeing in the reviews. It's like
they didn't really explainanything. It's a comedy horror.
Do they have to?
And I mean, they kind of did.This is the kind of movie.
This is a lot like the Coronado T Trilogy,
partly because it has Nick Frost andscenes that go with music incredibly
(00:26):
well. Let me put it this way.Iron Maiden is to this movie,
what Queen was to Shaun of the Dead.
Nice. Exactly.
The other way. This is the kind ofmovie that benefits from a rewatch,
and I should know because I've watchedthis movie like five times in the past
week, so.
(00:47):
I have watched it.
They do explain things. Youjust weren't paying attention.
(01:13):
So welcome back to Imported Horror.
This is the podcast that bringsyou the very best of gothic,
creepy,
shady monsters and spoilers set tomusic that will be stuck in your
head for years. I'm Marcus.
I'm here with my de thawing co-hosts.
Cocaine and Fat Dicks. I'm sorry,that's not my name. My name is Melissa.
(01:37):
That's just my handle at the moment.
Fuck the Polar again. I mean, and Grady.
I feel like I really missed somethingby not having seen this movie that y'all
are talking about,
because you kind of did in classic Corno
Trilogy style. It feels very quotable.
(01:57):
Yeah.
This may be the closest to a fourth Cornotrilogy movie that we're going to get.
It just was missing Simon Peg,
Simon Peg and someoneactually eating a Corno.
Yeah. Which they could haveeasily shoved in there with this.
Yeah.
That I can tell youright now would've been.
(02:18):
Interesting. Choice.
Of words, Melissa.
I know, right? Even.
Without having seen it.
So this week we're talkingabout getaway with Nick
Frost that recently hitShutter and Melissa and Grady
are promising they'll try not tospoil it, but because it's Melissa,
I am not holding out too much hope about.
(02:40):
That. I'm really wanting to try.
It really is important thatyou don't know the twist.
Yeah. Honestly,
I'm afraid I'm the one that's goingto blurt it out just because we'll get
there. We won't get there becausewe're going to try not to spoil it,
but we'll talk about it.
I snuck off and saw the Nosferatu remake,
(03:03):
which isn't imported,
but is a remake of vintageOG imported horror that we
talked about a couple of weeks ago.
So I am counting it becausethat's the thing we can do.
It is based on the what is Undisputably,the very first imported horror.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
At least in terms ofmovies. Yeah, absolutely.
(03:28):
But before we get to that,
we have a couple of interestingcoming Soons and a short
that I've been wanting to talkabout actually for a while.
I'm glad that I'm actually finallygoing to get the chance to do it. Nice.
So instead of MelissaShort, Marcus is short.
I'm short this week. I'mnot as short as Melissa.
(03:50):
I am definitely shorter than Grady,who's probably the tallest person I know.
I am as taller than you, asMelissa is shorter than you.
If we line up, we form a perfect 45degree angle. That's super weird.
Nothing is a coincidence.
(04:16):
So the first one we've gotactually hit last week when life
got a little bit in the way.
This is the damned this droppedon VOD and I hope you like
gothic horror because wegot a lot of it this week.
This is technically 2024. It is from
(04:38):
Ireland, the uk, Iceland and Belgium.
I can't get IMDB to confirm it,
but I'm pretty confident itwas filmed in Iceland. It.
Looked like it was filmed inIceland. That is the vibe that I got.
If it gets that cold in Ireland thenit's not the island that I thought it
was. Let's put it that way. Fair enough.
(05:01):
19th century widow has to make animpossible choice when during an
especially cruel winter,
a foreign ship sinks off the coastof her Icelandic fishing village.
This looks dark, this looks creepy.
This looks literally dark.
It might be hard to see what's going onand it looks very cold, all of which.
(05:23):
This gave me voyage of the Deme vibes.
Yes.
Yes.
And for that matter,
Nosferatu and just about everygothic folk horror I can think
of, which is a good thing.I think if you're into that.
It also stars Joe Cole, who I really like.
I don't know if you'vewatched Black Mirror.
(05:45):
He was the star of the Black Mirror
called not guess the dj,what is it? Hang the DJ
and.
Different things.
One of my favorite Black Mirror episodes,
and so I'm excited just becauseI really like him as an actor.
(06:07):
The only black mirrors I've seen,
actually the only one I'veseen is the Star Trek one,
which was really good and I thought areally faithful adaptation of Star Trek.
But the Pig as a pilot kind of turnedme off the whole season, the whole show.
Keep trying to get.
Me into it and it just.
Hasn't happened. That's a part of it.It's just such a small part of it.
(06:30):
None of that makes me want towatch it, I'll be honest. But.
I do and I are very different people.
I do kind of want to watch TheDamned that did hit theaters,
at least limited theaters. It was herein the Houston area for a little while,
but only at a few theaters.
The closest one was that giant one over
(06:53):
on 59 on the way to Livingston,
actually the one where we sawunbearable weight of massive talent
and late night with theDevil and Immaculate.
Or half of late night with the devil.
Half of late night with the devil.
But good reputation.
I want to say that that's goingto be on shutter at some point,
(07:14):
but I don't know for sure. Soyeah, don't hold me to that.
The other two are hitting shutterand because I am prepared and I have
notes,
I am not stalling while I try tofind where the saved image was.
There we go. Okay. On the 24th ofJanuary, that's today, we have grafted,
(07:36):
which the trailer said was a cross between
animator and mean girls, whichif that doesn't scream, Melissa,
I don't know what does.
Yeah,
this is my first watch of thistrailer and I watched it five or six
times. I'm really excited for this.
A bright but socially awkward exchangestudent takes her craving for popularity
(08:00):
to horrifying heights.
I feel like maybe that'sunderselling things.
You did. One of the things theycompared it to was the re animator.
So I would venture against that. Yes.
Yeah. So I've been seeing it in,
(08:22):
a lot of people have commented underthe trailer and in other places
that it reminds them of substance,which came out this past year,
but it's not. It hasnothing to do with that.
It's not the actual, it's just bodyhorror substance with body horror.
This is body horror. So if you want tosay it's a body horror, that's fine.
But I think sometimeswe haven't had so many
(08:46):
body horror films close to each other.
And so if you want tocompare it to something,
this is not the movie to compare itto substance. It's not the movie.
Have you seen the substance? Oh,
other people besides us havea very limited reference
pull for body horror compared tous here on the Horror Podcast?
(09:11):
Well, that's a fair point.
Yes. The age of Cronenberg is, I mean,
it's never over for us. It mightwax and wane for normal people.
All you normies out there listeningto this podcast, all three of you,
the substance actually did reallywell in Oscar nominations. That came.
(09:33):
Out. It wasn't bad, honestly. Itwasn't my favorite, but it wasn't bad.
Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll get into that.
But I think that was sort of asurprise hit in a lot of ways.
And so maybe that's whypeople are comparing it,
but the body horror andgrafted definitely looks
serious. Looks pretty graphic.This is from New Zealand.
(09:56):
It's not a horror comedy.
I want to say that I feel like mosteverything we've done from New Zealand has
had a comedic element to it, andI don't know that this does. So.
It's going to make it more interesting.
And then on
the 27th of January,
(10:17):
we have the VOR delac,
which is again creepy,
gothic folk horror calledand just wants everything
this week because that's all we'regetting. And I'm And another vampire.
And another vampire,yes. This is from France.
(10:41):
And if you didn't know that,
you just would watch thetrailer or presumably the first 20 seconds of the movie
and you would know lost ina hostile forest. The Marqui
Dre,
a noble emissary from the King of Francefinds refuge in the home of a strange
family. That again,
(11:03):
I think is maybe underselling.
Things important safety tip that the
characters in the trailer forthis movie did not follow.
If a man wearing whitepancake makeup and a
colonial English personoutfit is dancing in the
(11:24):
middle of the road, do not engagehim. Do not compliment his dancing.
Do not make eye contact.Just keep walking.
I feel like that's a lesson. Otherwisea horror movie will happen sometimes.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, Imean this is historical.
By that I mean it was set in
(11:47):
back in the day where clown makeup wasn'tclown makeup, I guess. I don't know.
But yeah,
it looked like if you watch Nosferatuand you want to scratch that itch
again, but in French, thisis probably the way to go.
(12:10):
That is very specific. Someoneout there is going to need.
That. It's dark and I don'tknow if it's tonally dark,
but I know it's literally dark becauseIMDB is playing the trailer again and I'm
looking at it and
it does a lot with naturallighting and that's really cool,
but it's also kind of hard to see.
(12:32):
And it sets that tone of this is gothic,But
Also French, which has adifferent vibe. Gothic,
I dunno,
sorry for butchering the Frenchlanguage and any cultural
sensibilities about y'all'sgothic horror that you have.
(12:54):
So yeah. Anyway, that's on.
Shutter too. I'm not youpeople made under Paris.
You have a sense of humor aboutthis truth. You proved it. No.
Yeah. And that's it forJanuary. So relatively slow.
I'm going to get the threadsback up and running for February.
(13:14):
Got some strategies going toget those posts brewing again.
But I'm excited. I think February,
there's at least a littlebit of romantic romcom
horror because Valentine'sDay and everything else.
So I don't know how much ofthat is international, but
(13:35):
so I am short this week. You are notshort. I am short this week. You're short,
short, short.
So this was the tunnel,
or tunnel in family is caught.
IMDB is just crushing it this week.
A family is caught in slow movingtraffic with the hope of making it home
(13:58):
safely. Now you might think,
isn't that every single dayin the Houston metro area and.
Yes.
Yes it is. Except it's not slowmoving traffic. It's Mad Max.
Yes. And also we.
Don't have tunnels. And after seeingthis movie, I'm glad for that.
That's true. That's very true.
So this is Norwegian.
(14:19):
It was directed by Andrea Overal,
who also did second time we're going tomention it because it's a great movie.
Last Voyage, the Demeanor,
which I think is criminally underratedand also gothic and historical.
He did troll hunter, whichwe all thought was great,
that's got a real sense of humor.
And he did autopsy of Jane Doe, which is.
(14:42):
Also Oh, so good.
Pretty gothic and really good.Yeah, I really enjoyed that.
So I haven't seen this in a littlewhile because my toddler would
not go down for sleepy time. And everytime I'd try to sneak out of the room,
she'd look at me and she'd go,dad, dad, no. And I'd be like,
(15:03):
I already gave you likefive hugs. Go fuck to sleep.
And she just looked apathetic. Dad, dad,no. And of course she got another hug,
and I didn't have timeto rewatch this, but
I taught a class on filmreviews, like journalism,
film reviews last spring.
And we did a short movie every class.
(15:24):
And one of my students shoutout to Blaine, if you're listening, suggested this.
And so we just watched it coldand it has haunted me ever
since. And it was a good exercisebecause it's not in English,
so they had to do alittle bit more digging.
I had to do a little more researchon the background and everything.
And there is definitely background here,but what did y'all think about this?
(15:48):
I didn't get a chanceto watch it. I'm sorry.
I thought it was creepy. But also feellike there's some missed potential.
Yeah. How so?
Well, I mean, we see thetunnel close and that's it.
Sorry, I'm sorry to spoil theend, but it's a 14 minute movie
(16:11):
and there's a lot to be said for the
trope. Nothing is scarier
and I don't think that workedin this case. I wanted to,
I was expecting,
it probably isn't fair to voice myown expectations on a movie like this,
but I was expecting somethingmessed up to happen in that tunnel.
(16:36):
And probably something did,but we didn't get to see it.
I just realized that I don't think that,
I think I've seen this just not for this
particular podcast this past week,
because now I'm remembering there's atunnel that automatically closes people in
(16:56):
it every so often.
It's random. Yes.
Right, because of some dystopian.
Yes.
Stuff going on. Okay, so yes,I have seen this then that.
Or Melissa, same idea.
(17:18):
Well, so what did you think?
Was I the only one that wasthoroughly creeped out by this?
No, I thought it was anti climactic.
What?
Yeah, I mean, I was creepedout while watching it.
I was getting into the buildup. It's justthat once nothing came of the buildup,
I was like, oh, okay.
(17:40):
I mean, literally
that's my own expectations.Not all movies have to do that.
Just that was my vibe thetime that I watched the movie.
Fair enough, fair enough. Yeah.
This has stuck with me forat this point nearly a year.
(18:01):
This really pushed my buttons.
And I think normally I'mnot a less is more guy,
but in this case,
because it's obvious what's happeningand the acting is strong enough that
everybody is really nervousand really tense and it's not
some great mystery, but
(18:25):
yeah, was definitely aless is more type of thing,
but maybe because there'sseveral kids in the
car and in the othercars and everything else.
And so maybe this waspushing dadda Noha buttons.
Not everybody.
I can totally see.
(18:46):
But yeah.
So normally I am a less is more girl,right? I am the one that's like, yes,
I love less is more. Well yeah,you're like, I'm remember. Yeah.
I'm remembering why Isaw this short and it was
because they kept showing theclip on TikTok of the ending
(19:10):
and I'm like, oh my God, Ihave to know what happens.
I kept seeing this clip andit took so long to find this,
and then I realized that that waswhat happened, and I'm just like.
I can see where that wouldbe an issue. Yeah, no.
I'm flying on the play.
(19:31):
The TikTok equivalent of PeterGriffin saying it was his sled.
I just saved you two long boob less hours.
Right, exactly. Yep.
That yeah. Ah, yeah, no,
I'm going to give you a pass onthat one because that's tiktoks bad.
You can't do that. You.
(19:52):
Can't just show me thelast couple of minutes.
Why would you, without context, it'snot going to make any sense at all.
So this was back way back whenTikTok would only allow you to play
minute clips or 32nd clipsor three minute clips.
So what people were doing was wherethey were downloading only three minute
(20:15):
clips. So they were downloading afull movie, but in three minute clips.
So if you were scrolling.
So you accidentally saw thelast three minutes first.
Exactly.
Okay. Why would you do that.
Though? Why not just watch?Because watch it on YouTube.
Keeps taking it down.
Yeah.
It's.
Not down on YouTube. It's up onYouTube, but I think it was on.
(20:36):
Short.
But when you try to upload it yourselfso you get credit for it and get to
introduce people to it,
YouTube takes it down becausethey're all copyright Nazis.
Well, yes. Then.
How dare they? I'm not going to lie.
I've watched full episodesof crap on TikTok.
It shows that I would never even thinkof watching Chicago Med. I'm like,
(20:59):
but I have to find out what happens.
I'm not even mad about it.
Maybe you should be walk.
So this creeped the hell outof me. It was one of those,
I thought it was oneof these really tense,
really build up the anxiety youcould feel. And it difficult,
(21:23):
it seemed like it was relatively bigbudget for a short movie and for a sci-fi
short movie that's hard to do.
But it didn't rely on the specialeffects or anything like that.
But they were just kind of,
there was this actually realisticenough to not take me out of the moment.
Super intricate sci-fi setting that justhappens to be the backdrop for all this
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existential dread,
which I think is why it surprised me that
they didn't use some of those effects to
show what happens. But.
Yeah, I mean, I get that. Get it.
(22:06):
Creeped me the hell out.And I actually read the,
it's curious becausemost American dystopia,
I feel like this is the part that hasbeen playing in my head since I saw it.
We should do that for the podcast.We should do that for the,
so most American dystopia I canthink of come from the government
(22:27):
collapsing.
It's like a zombie outbreak andthere is no more government.
And that's where the dystopiacomes from more often than not,
or sometimes it's likecapitalism run amuck.
But I feel like most of thetime there is no government,
and this is the opposite extreme.
This is extremely Orwellian,
(22:50):
extremely organizedauthoritarian dystopia that
almost has this, I don't want to spoil it,
but it has this way of rationalizingthings that things sort of makes sense on
paper in a way that the zombieapocalypse or civil war, the A 24 movie,
the Alex Garland one thatdoesn't, that's just anarchy.
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That's a very different vibe from this.
And maybe that was part ofwhy I liked it so much too.
Yeah.
I will say the propagandaelements of this that did
come the closest to creeping meout of anything in this movie.
So do y'all want to go firstor should I run through? No,
(23:36):
pu first.
Why don't you go ahead andrun through Nosferatu first.
So this has been out since Christmasand I finally got to see it
and I kind of enjoyed it like thatbecause I snuck down to the movie theater
just down the road. And by this pointit had been relegated to the smaller
(23:57):
theaters in the smaller rooms,
and it was cozier, it wassmaller, it was late at night,
and that was the way to watch this movie.
I need to know about the necrophilia.
You don't though. Youreally don't. You don't.
(24:17):
A gothic tale of obsession between ahaunted young woman and the terrifying
vampire infatuated with hercausing untold horror in its way.
So I reviewed this on letterbox.
I gave it five stars and thelittle heart saying I liked it.
That's important.
(24:37):
It is very important because I feel likevery often I put the little heart on
things that I give like one or twostars and it's not a consolation thing.
You're garbage, but Ilove you. That's okay.
This was not garbageand I really enjoyed it.
Gothic and bewitching.
This faithful adaptation captures thebleakness and soul of the original silent
(24:59):
film without coming to film. Snobbery.A few moments are trying too hard.
I would argue the one that Melissajust mentioned is in that category,
but the vintage ambiance.
Is it's difficult not to try toohard when you're doing necrophilia.
That's true. That's true.
The vintage ambiance ishaunting and memorable,
and that's probably the big takeawaybecause the cinematography and the costume
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work and the makeup workwere creepy as all get out.
I think the problem that I hadwith the original watching,
the original notes fra to was that themedium sort of got in the way of the
story.
I couldn't look past the limitationsof the form of the silent film
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and actually appreciate the narrativebecause it was such a different medium.
It was such a different form.It was an academic exercise,
not an immersive storytelling.
It was like the cinematic equivalentof trying to read Shakespeare.
You almost need cliff notes for it.
Right, exactly. Exactly.
And this did a reallygood job of grabbing that
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narrative and modernizingit enough to where it sort
of the form disappeared. You didn'tthink about the movie you were watching,
you were just thinking aboutthe story and how creepy it was,
but it's still maintained.It's mostly the same story.
It's mostly the same narrative.They had a lot of the same details.
(26:25):
They had a lot of the samedialogue. So it was really good.
And you believed, not thatthis was a silent film,
but it was sincerely set in the 1830s.
It was really well done andit got Oscar nominations for
cinematography, costuming,
and I think makeup did notget it for adapted screenplay,
(26:47):
which surprised me alittle bit, but big deal.
And it stuck with me. Now,
I like gothic horror and I like stuffwith natural lighting and I was in the
mood for something bleak,
and so you got to kind ofsign it up for all of that.
(27:07):
Don't go into this thinking, oh, it'sgoing to be so scary. And the jump skiers,
no, that's not,
you hear dialogue thatsounds unnaturally low.
You see creepy things.You have creepy feelings.
And Willam Defoe, just willamdefoes all over everything.
And he's magnificent.
(27:28):
He has some, he is the onlylogical choice for that role.
Oh yes, he really is. Yeah,no, and he's perfect for it.
And the whole, I thought aboutit and I kept thinking about it,
kept thinking about it.
I had to look up a couple ofarticles to help me understand it,
but at the end of the day,
take everything WillemDefoe says at Face Value.
(27:51):
And the movie makes a lot of sense.
You just have to kind of sitwith it and kind of marinate it.
And any good folk horror,
it is got this tension betweenmodernity and tradition,
between spirituality and science,
between belief and
skepticism. It just nailsit across the board.
(28:14):
Now you do have to sign up for itbecause even I signed up for it,
I was creeped out. I reallyloved the movie. Even I,
in the back of my headat the end of the movie,
there was a horrible littledemon whispering in my ear and
singing A Lonely Island song.
And if you've seen either of themovies, which Lonely Island song it is,
(28:36):
and it's both completelyappropriate and wildly,
wildly inappropriate for thetone and the ending of the movie.
For a minute. When you said a littledemon like screaming in your ear,
I thought you were talking about Rozand I got real confused why she started
singing you a Lonely Island song.
(28:59):
It makes more sense now though.
Yeah, no, she will not be watchingthis movie anytime soon. Nope.
That is a hard pass.
Maybe like 16 years.
She does love that Lonely.That is her theme song.
She is not part of your system. In fact,
(29:20):
she will throw it on ground
and it doesn't matter how long youspent thinking about dinner and cooking
dinner, if she looks at it and goes, nah,
if you try to put it in hermouth, it's going on the ground.
There's just no two ways about it.
That's not the song that was playingin my head at the end of Nosferatu.
(29:42):
Same group though.
Would be really confusing. If it was.
It would be really confusing. Yeah,it also, I don't want to spoil it,
but this is one of those examples of areal short clip that could make a TikTok
without really spoiling anything,
but there is some magnificent dialogueabout a cat that I don't want to spoil,
but.
(30:02):
Interesting.
The cat is awesome and I was too
shellshocked by the end of this movieto check and see if the cat got the line
in the credits. So when Irewatch this, I'm going to check.
The cat did not die, did it?
I'm not answering that.I'm not answering that.
But what I can answer isthat the cat was magnificent
(30:26):
and the cat was named the character,
the cat's character's name was Greta,
which was after the actress who played
the heroin in the original was alsonamed Greta. So that's sort of a.
Throwback.
Yeah, no, that's really cool.So I thought it was really neat.
(30:48):
I thought it was gothic as fuck, butyou kind of have to sign up for it.
Wouldn't all sex sceneswith vampires be necrophilia
technically?
Oh, that's a good point, Grady.
But.
I.
Don't think either one ofthese were vampires right yet.
Well, I'm not going to help you spoila movie you haven't seen. Come on,
(31:10):
Melissa.
Come.
On, comeOn.
Come on there. Fair. Fair.
But yeah, no,
we're so used to vampires being likeTwilight E or what we do in the shadowy,
and this is, no, this is old school.
This is like whatevercame before old school.
(31:32):
This is like beyond vintage.
I love that.
This creeped me out.
I'm going to go ahead and put it afive on the tear scale and quality and
enjoyment are also fives. This was good.
That's a big statement.
Yeah. Yeah. I try not to do that lightly.
(31:56):
But yeah,
I felt there's just thisnihilistic sense of dread that
came over me after thatfinal scene ignoring
the voice in my head, singingLonely Island, at least
know of the Vampire Mytho I can. Itwas not the one about the boat. No.
(32:18):
I'll say that. Boats doplay a role in this film,
and one really awful hot take Ikeep seeing online is why would a
vampire take a boat fromPennsylvania to Germany,
man? Like meh. Hey, you do knowGermany has a coast, right?
(32:39):
They have beaches. You know that, right?
And I'm not sure the internet knows that.
No.
But also it's set inyesteryear and do you want
to take a horse-drawn carriage over theCarpathian Mountains or do you just want
to get on a boat? Be honest with me,
and at least one or two Reddit threadshave argued that Dracula of the book
(33:03):
covers that because if you're on a boat,
you can go around like customs andborder checks and everything else.
And in the book he's going toEngland, which is an island.
So he didn't really have a choice,
but still that felt like a lame hot take
to me. And as.
The board game Fury of Dracula has proven,
(33:24):
Dracula is an old manthat is afraid of trains.
Yes. Important detail. Ireally want to play that again.
I have been strategizing in my headever since we played it the last time.
And I have a plan. I have a plan.
I know exactly where I'm going tostart when I get to play this Dracula.
I'm excited.
(33:46):
Where are you going to start?
I'm not going to tell you.
Why, because.
Just tell us. I'm going to start in Suki,
that Hungarian town that none of uscould figure out how to pronounce.
We'll, never remember. You could tell.
Us. No, it's Suki. I'm tellingyou, I will start in Suzuki.
(34:09):
What a vampire lie.They're not capable of it.
Exactly.
You're right. They're not.
Totally truth. Truth. Sotell me about Getaway.
Oh God.
Getaway.
You can go first.
Okay. It came out on Shuter recently.
(34:34):
We actually did it as one ofour coming Soons two weeks ago,
and we were going to do it lastweek, but then life happened,
the Wikipedia summary,because the IMDB summary,
we're not talking to theIMDB summary right now.
A family owned holiday in Sweden travelsto a remote island to take part in a
(34:54):
peculiar holiday tradition.
So this is Nick Frost.We all know Nick Frost.
He is the F of the CoronaT trilogy that's still
making horror movies,
(35:16):
and this may be his bestnon Corno trilogy thing.
That's awesome. I do not say that lightly.
Better than Attack the Block. You think.
Oh, I forgot he was at Attackthe Block. Close second.
Close second. Yeah.
(35:37):
I feel like this remindedme so much of Hot Fuzz,
but it was kind of like acombination of hot fuzz,
scary movie and Adam's family values.
Oh my God. I am sold. Which.
People may be wondering, people maybe wondering Adam's family values.
(35:58):
Yes. Think about the Camp
Camp song that Wednesday does.
Yep. Okay. Yeah. Was not making thatconnection until now, but yep, yep.
That is the.
Whole play. That whole play.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
(36:23):
So Melissa and I are having to bevery vague about this because this is
one of those movies that you reallyneed to go into it as blind as possible.
Yeah.
If you like Nick Frost's usualBody of Work, you will like this.
It is going to go some directionsyou may not expect it to,
(36:46):
but that's just part of the ride.
Nick Frost is so fun.
He has the best rolesbecause he really brings his
self to it,
but his comedy and it'sjust so perfectly timed
and he can be just so awkward,
(37:09):
but so incredibly naiveat the same time and it's
just great. It's great. I love him.
Well, Emily and I watched TruthSeekers and I really enjoyed that.
It's a bummer if not for the pandemic.
I'm sure it would've gotten asecond season, but that was fun.
(37:31):
Yeah. The energy he bringsis one scene in the climax
that I can bring up without spoiling itbecause it's just kind of a funny joke.
While all the action inthe bloodshed is happening,
he's arguing with his wifeabout a jazz or size class.
I can't at all see Emily and I doing that.
(37:55):
It's not even a little bitthat we would never, no.
I'm so, it's funny, you shouldhave kept up street jazz.
I fucking ate straight jazz.
So their relationship too in this is
really adorable,
(38:17):
but they call each other mommy and daddy,
and my first thought before Igot towards the end of the movie
was, I am so happy that,
go ahead, Grady.
Call me daddy.
(38:41):
I had forgotten about that. Yeah.
This movie is basically whatunwelcome should have been.
This is unwelcome done, right?
Yes, exactly. Exactly.
All kinds of perfect.
I mean, if I'm being completely honest,
(39:01):
I used to think that wasweird until I had a kid and
I refer to Emily asmom enough to r that it
does sort of burrow into your brain.
I could see how that mightjust replace some vernacular.
Now that's awkward when your ownparents are around pretty frequently,
(39:23):
and that can get confusing, let's say.
But I don't know. I don't,now that I have a kid,
I don't think that's asweird as it might seem.
It was weird when Chief O'Brien did it.
No, that's true. Yes, that istrue. It was weird and unwelcome.
(39:44):
It was very, everything aboutunwelcome was weird. Yeah,
I don't know about that one.I don't know about that one.
The other thing thatthere were parts of it,
and I know this is a horrorcomedy and it is so much fun,
but there were parts of it that I waslike, oh, this would creep me out.
(40:07):
There was one part where thedaughter is not sure if there's
other people in the house. Somethingweird is going on in the house,
and so she goes over to the mirror andI'm not going to say what happened,
but she goes over to themirror and blows on it.
So you got some condensation andshe draws half of a heart waiting to
(40:27):
see what would happen with the otherhalf if somebody would do something and
that part creeped me the hell out.
That was terrifying.
There are some bits that happenedin the latter half of the
movie where I will,
(40:50):
like I said,
this goes places you don't normallyexpect a Nick Frost horror comedy to go.
And there got to be kind of a momentwhere all bets were off, so to speak.
Well, so that would be my question.
How much horror is it andhow much comedy is it?
Because usually horror comedieshave to pick at some point,
and this one doesn't pick No.
(41:12):
Really. No, no. This one.
Just slams the two together.
Oh yeah. Yeah.
And it's awesome.
And admittedly might have a little bitto do with some of the negative buzzing
they got because some peopleprobably expected it to be,
(41:36):
the trailers definitely make it looklike it hits way more on the comedy.
Yeah.
This is at least a three on themotion picture Terror scales,
not the most grizzly thing we've lookedat by a long shot, but yeah, definitely
(41:56):
a little more intense than theCoronado Trelegy would yet.
I agree.
More or less than Tuckerand Dale versus Evil,
which is the other horrorcomedy. That's sort of the.
Different.
Different.
Yeah, I don't different.
I would say more,
(42:16):
but justifying that would have a hellof a lot of qualifiers that I don't want
to do. That's okay. That's okay.
Yeah,
I don't think I can comparethe two because for me,
and I know, so when I thinkabout both movies side by side,
I understand where a comparisonwould come into place.
(42:39):
But for me, even thoughthey're so similar,
they're also so differentin terms of execution
and acting and all ofthat, that I couldn't,
there's no way that I could putthose into a category together,
try to compare them like that.
Okay. My brain just went therebecause that's one of the few,
(43:02):
I didn't think it was scary,but it was definitely gory.
I could a lot of horrorcomedy skimp on that,
or they make it completelyprepost just like dead snow.
I have to say, this movie surprised me,
just like Barbariansurprised me, just like
(43:26):
it really did things. It went placesthat I wasn't expecting it to go.
And it did it in a way whereyou were still scared at Grady.
I absolutely agree withthe three with you on that,
but it was still funny andstill incredibly entertaining.
So I don't know how they pulledit off, but they pulled it off.
It was the perfectelements now. I loved it.
(43:49):
I'd give this whole thinga five. I don't have
anything negative to say, butmainly because I love Nick Frost so.
Much. Yeah, really,
if I were nitpicking,
I would say that there were some basic,
the Spey is trying really hard. WhenI compare it to the Corno Trilogy,
(44:12):
it's like pulling all of the stops.It's got all the foreshadowing,
it's got all, there are some awesomescenes set to music in this. Oh.
God. So good.
Movie.
This movie got me into Iron Maiden, but.
And that's thing that I haveto thank this movie for,
(44:33):
and another reason I'm giving it a five.
But
Really the only complaintI have, and it's so minor,
I'm reluctant to even say it, is,
it's just not quite as punchy as somethingthat would actually be directed by
Edgar Wright. But I mean, that's adumb thing to complain about. So yeah,
(44:55):
fight for quality, fight for enjoyment.
Well, and I like that Nick Frost,
because he was always thesidekick in the Corno trilogy,
and I like that he's kind ofstanding on his own at this point.
And I get the sense he's notthe sidekick in this movie,
(45:15):
and he certainly wasn't in truth seekers,
or I guess he kind ofwas in Attack the Block,
but not quite the same way. I.
Didn't even remember hewas in Attack The Block
and I attack the Block.
I thought he was kind of arelatively minor character in that,
(45:36):
unless I'm just completely misremembering.
No, he was, and he was funny. Heplayed it had a purpose. Yeah.
I'm remembering him now. Hewas the drug dealer, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he wasn't,
wasn't the side the secondhe wasn't Robin to Simon Pegs
(45:56):
Batman. He was sort of somewhere else.
So, no, that's fantastic. I definitelywant to check this out. I'm not sure,
actually this would bea good one because I,
after Nosferatu last week, Ireally want something lighter.
Yeah. Then take this.
(46:18):
It's not going to be aslight as you expect it to be,
but it is definitelylighter than Nosferatu.
So this will be a good palette clean.
And I may be saying that because I wantyou to see this movie so I can talk to
you straight about it.
Yeah, this is killing us.
Do you know how many morethings I want to quote.
I know.
Or I want to talk aboutthat can't pretty do.
(46:39):
It. I can see you both physicallyclenching and restraining yourselves.
So I mean, for what it's worth, no.
Ferra had some magnificentquotes too. One,
I can't say it, but it'sno one other than Willam,
Defoe could deliver that line.
Apparently no one other than WillamDefoe can do a lot of things.
(47:02):
I mean, yes, that's true. He'smagnificent. He is magnificent.
A true gift to the genre, and I thinkunderrated just across the board,
and we're not going to go there. Iknow what you're thinking, Melissa.
We're not going to do that. We're notgoing to talk about that. Don't do that.
Chaos rains.
(47:23):
So if you're still listening,give us a shout out on threads.
Follow us on letterbox, send us anemail. Tell your friends about us.
Tell anybody in your life into horror.Say, Hey, give these guys a shot,
because I think we'repretty cool. I don't know,
maybe that's not high praise. My wifelistens to our podcast, so there's that.
(47:47):
Marcus, did I teach you nothingabout being cool? Dont say, I think.
We're pretty cool. No, no,no, no, no. Of course not. No,
you were so bad at unquoteteaching me to be cool.
I just assumed you were trolling,
and so I aggressivelydisregarded your advice.
(48:08):
Don't worry, your daughter will take it.
Yeah, I don't know. She doesn't needany help. She already runs the entire.
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