August 15, 2024 • 59 mins
Why is it always rainy after the end of the world? If a serial killer is incompetent, does that make him more or less scary? Why was Wer so meh? Discover the answers to these questions - and more! - as we chat about Into the Abyss (Argentina, 2022), a SciFi noire horror somewhere between Blade Runner and 28 Days Later, and Angst (Austria, 1983), a true crime-inspired story of brutal murder. Also, Godzilla Minus One/Minus Color (Japan, 2023) might be a gimmick but its a magnificent gimmick, one of the protagonists from Wer (Romania & USA, 2013) gives Jar Jar Binks a run for his money, and we mourn the absence and passing of co-host Melissa, who was comically murdered by Lucifer herself.
Articles mentioned in this episode:
"Godzilla Minus One/Minus Color and the rise of the de-colorized version," by Matt Schimkowitz for The AV Club
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Am I still here?
Yes.
Okay. My internet is flirting with death,
which is unfortunate.
Welcome to my world. I am at 0% uploading,
so.
Oh, me too, actually. Sweet.
Okay.
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Well.
If this ends up being a lost episode,it ends up being a lost episode.
Let's just roll with it.
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So welcome to Imported Horror.
This is the podcast that brings youthe very best of cosmic nightmares,
gray scaled titans andEuropean serial killers on
Tubi from Beyond theShining Seas. I'm Marcus.
I'm here with one of my creepy co-hosts.
Grady.
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And we have sad, tragic news to report.
I hope you're sittingdown when you hear this,
but Melissa will not be joiningus because her cat Lucy,
better known as Lucy Fur. Get it,get it, get it. Do you get it?
Do you get it though? LikeLucifer? Like the devil,
like the adversary.
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Lucifer the fallen star. Anyway,
Lucifer slept on Melissa'sface all last night,
and Melissa did not wake upand she suffocated to death on Satan's butt and now
she's dead.
Well, I think deep down, we both knewthis was how she was going to go.
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I think she wanted it this way. Yeah.
Once a strong word
resigned. Acceptance. Maybe.
We will be doing thecelebratory New Jersey
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farewell.
We will buy a 40 and go a bridge and drink
a little bit of it,
and then probably just drop it overinto the water and that'll be it.
Are we also firing our guns in the airor am I confusing Jersey and Texas again?
I don't know. Let's just tryit and see what happens. Okay.
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She lived in two differentworlds way She would have. Yes,
Lucy, meanwhile will moveon. Probably. You made.
Us do this, Melissa.
Probably claim Dan nextand then who knows?
The world is his terrifyingoyster. Her terrifying oyster.
I'm actually not sure it's her. I think.
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I'm 90% sure of that.
If only I remember whenthey first got her,
she was in heat and they werereally afraid that she'd get res.
Ah, that's right. Yes, yes, yes. Well,
and the antichrist transcendsgender in many traditional and
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nontraditional ways. So.
As we learned from the latestversion of the omen. Yes.
Yes, yes. There you go. There you go.
So pour one out for Ms. Persia and in the
meantime we've got this.
Week her ghost may or maynot be back next week.
We'll see.
I might say on skills are Rusty.
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This week we've got into the Abyss,
a trippy sci-fi noir that Ifound on Tubi from Argentina,
and I watched Godzilla minusone minus color on Netflix,
which there's not a whole lot tosay that we haven't talked about,
but I still want to touch on it. Sure.
Gritty also found a Tubby movie.
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Yes. I will be talking, well, first ofall, I'm going to be talking about where,
which is what Melissa did last time.
I promised somewhatIll-advised Lee to be the
moderator because youand Melissa had some,
I don't even remember ify'all had disagreements,
but something caused me to say, okay,
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I'll see this movie andtell you what I think.
And even though Melissa's not here,
even though she has disappeared up Satan'sbutt or whatever the hell story you
made up about why she'snot here this week,
I am going to give my thoughts on where,
because I paid actual real worldmoney to watch where and I refuse to
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let that go to waste.
I think that's reasonable. No argument.
I also watched angst in a cult
movie from Austria from 1983. It is,
as Marcus alluded to also on Tobe.
It is a semit true storyabout a serial killer,
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and I will get into thatwhen we get into that.
That's cool. That's cool.Well, in the meantime,
we have two drops to talkabout over the next week.
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So both these are from Southeast Asia.
August overall is pretty dry because Isuspect the spooky season is right around
the corner.
Emily and I are already strategizing ourtrip to Spirit Halloween because we are
going all out this year and maybe this.
May very will be the firstHalloween that Roz has memories of.
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So you need to go out out this year?
I think so. I think so. So I don'tknow when we're going to do it.
If we want to September 1st,
or if we want to wait until the lastweek of September, I don't know.
We're still on the fence,
but gothic fences will be a part ofthe aesthetic we've already decided.
But one of these is on Shutter,the other one is on Netflix.
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The first is Shutteron Friday, August 16th,
and that's Dancing Village.
The curse begins from Indonesia,
and I got to say that's akiller title. I love that title.
And I took the IMDB and I cutit down and I reworded it.
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So this is DI.
MDB was loaded with spoilersit again more than I.
No, it was just kind of lengthy and
the copy editor in me had to just print.
It. It's really only funny whenit's about Du I understand.
Shaman instructs Myla.
Mila Shaman instructs Mila toreturn a mystical bracelet,
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the atu,
a mystical bracelet tothe dancing village,
a remote site on the easternmost tipof Java Island when she decides to
return it without thehelp of a missing village,
elder Mila must help curse someoneto dance for the rest of her
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life. And there's alittle bit of backstory,
you might not know this isa prequel to KKN and I'm
sorry, my Indonesian is evenworse than my Spanish did
Ari, which is the highest grossingIndonesian film of all time.
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So there's that. Interesting.
This one I think is getting awider shutters, picked it up.
It's getting a wider release here inthe States. You can find the other one,
but I think it's a little harder,
and I'm totally here for dancing horror.
You can have a ton of fun with the bodyhorror and the dancing and the rhythmic.
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I think.
That's one of the scenarios in Betrayalat House Sun Haunted Hill that we've
actually gotten.
Yes.
I think I remember that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like an evil.
Music box or something that madeplayers dance uncontrollably,
something like that.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes. This movie does lookcreepy. Questionable. CGI,
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snakes Aside,
and it looks like it's going to go insome really scary impedes directions,
but
there's one scene fromthe trailer that I keep
getting hung up on,
and that is where apparently thefact that this girl drank the
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coffee with the sweetand low in it means that
she is being selected to bethe debts or she is getting
sacrificed to this village asequivalent of the wicker man.
And as far as barbariclotteries and creepy
villages go,
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that one feels ripe for abuse.
Call it the Starbucks treatment. Yeah.
I'm sure there's some culturalthing that I'm not getting,
but that's where I got hung up.
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Yeah, yeah, I could seethat. I could see that.
It could be, I mean, they're prettyserious about coffee down there. Java,
the term is from the island, orat least named after the island.
But yeah, I dunno.
It does look like it could be creepy,
but the dancing that we sawin the trailer was sort of
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clumsy and awkward, almost looking likeit was clumsy and awkward by design,
which that wasn't, ifyou tell me dance horror,
I want to see some freakydance moves with my horror.
Sure. They may just not beputting that in the trailer,
but speaking of someone who tookan East Asian religions class in
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college, the awkward dancing,
that's a lot more true to life.
And you can play withthat too. I don't know.
It made me think of the Suspiria remake,
which has some controversy because, well,
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not even controversy,
it just has very little to do with theoriginal ria and they took the name and
it's basically different movie, butit does have that dancing angle.
And dancers do some freakydance body horror stuff,
and it's very differentkind of dancing, but
there's plenty of room there. SoI'm hoping that they play with that.
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They really double downon the dancing part of it.
I have no rhythm incase anybody is curious.
The only dance I can do is to Macarena.And even that, it's been a little while.
I have no physical rhythm.
Give me a rhythm based videogame or a musical instrument.
I'm there if I have tophysically move to rhythm myself,
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that shit ain't happening.
What was that game with the, it'slike Zelda, but it's to a beat,
like a rhythm, rhythmdancer. Yes, yes, yes.
This gave off those vibes. I.
Have never made it past thesecond level in that game.
That has nothing to do with my senseof rhythm and everything to do with the
fact that that game is fucking hard.
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It looks hard,
but I can see this being a lotof fun. So I hope it's good.
I hope it works out.
I can move in rhythm just fine.
I just can't keep track of when theskeletons are about to attack or not
are very tiny.
Sliding difficulty of some sort.
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On Tuesday the 20th we have, oh, okay.
That's why it's coming out ona Tuesday. That makes it, okay.
The title of it is Terror Tuesday Extreme
from Thailand. It's dropping on Netflix,
a collection of haunting hitstories inspired by the Terror
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Tuesday radio program withterrorizing twists and turns that are
dialed up to the extreme.
This is an eight episode anthology series.
I'm totally here forthe radio angle station.
I'm totally here forthe radio station angle.
I dunno how extreme the trailer looked,
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but you give me some radio looks I.
Can work. It looks actuallygoing to go some places.
I'm reluctant to admitthis because it exposes how
ignorant I am sometimes of the things wereview and the countries they're from.
But my first thought whenwatching this trailer was, oh God,
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please don't tell me thisis Indonesian. I said,
in my Nightmares and Daydreams reviewthat it was the only part of this big
Netflix push in Indonesia that isrelevant to our show. If I miss this,
it's going to make me look like an idiot.And then I checked on, I was like, oh.
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Yeah. It does look kind ofsimilar in some ways though.
Anthology series fromthat part of the world,
maybe not as much, butat least a little bit.
Yeah, my personal guess,just based on the trailer,
and I will review thiseventually, maybe not next week,
but sometime is I'mguessing it's going to be
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less stylish thanNightmares and daydreams,
but a bit more intense. I mean, yeah,
the Nightmares and Daydreamsis by Joko Andmore,
but he really only got his joko more onin a couple of episodes, whereas this,
at least from the trailer,
feels like maybe it'll only goup to an eight instead of a 10,
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but it'll go up to thateight a lot more often.
I can see that. I can definitely see that.
I do wonder about Tuesday.
That's got to be the leastscary day of the week. Right?
It's like Monday you don'twant to go back to work. No,
Wednesday is hump day and you're justthinking about Thursday and Friday.
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Saturday isn't scary.
No, I mean it's the day that, I mean,
Friday and Saturday are the daythat you get most horror things,
but it has nothing to do withthe day itself being scary.
It's the day that you can stay up aslate as you want watching horror crap.
Yeah. Yeah. I dunno. Yeah, I mean,
Monday the 13th would not have hadthe same impact or that doesn't work.
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So Tuesday, Tuesday isan interesting choice.
Maybe I'm just missing somethingabout there Thai work week,
or maybe there's somethingabout Tuesday. I dunno.
It's the only day of the week thatbegins with a hard tea and they had to
iterate it with terror.
That's true. That's true. Thealliteration is important. That's clutch.
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This could just as easily havebeen Taco Tuesday Extreme,
but Island isn't as bigabout tacos as we're.
I'm a big fan of tacos though.Taco Tuesday. I'm here for that,
which I did not. So I was in, oh,
we were off last week partly becauseI was out of town at a conference and
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partly just because everybodyhad, Grady had stuff to do.
Melissa was busy gettingsuffocated by her cat and want to
thank Philadelphia for y'all'shospitality. It was a great conference.
We were right near theReading Terminal market,
which is like a big callingit a mall isn't accurate,
but it's just a ton ofrestaurants and food stores and
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tourist trinket places andeverything. It was really good.
Got some good cheesesteak, got some good food,
but I was not brave enough totry the barbecue or the tacos in
Philadelphia. And I hope y'alldon't take it personally.
I'm not brave enough to try the tacos in
anywhere north of here. I was going toname a specific state and then I started
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having this paralysis ofwait, do they have good wait,
do they have good tacos? Am Igoing to offend our audience?
Do I care about Northour audience about this?
No.
I've decided I don't, I'm afraidto try tacos in Tennessee.
I definitely don't want totry them in Philadelphia.
Yep, yep. That is the correct answer.
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And I lived in San Antoniofor more than a decade.
I am allowed to be inelitist brick about tacos.
Oh god. San Antonio.
Oh, I loved it. Oh my God.
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So do you,
tell me your thoughts on where,
which is the Romanian werewolf horror
movie that we talked about last week?
Well, I'm just going to go ahead andrip the mandate off this movie was bad.
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What? No.
But there's a very specificelement of it that bad that I think
deserves special mention. See,
I think both the procedurallegal drama first half and
the super violent werewolf,
second half would've been better if Gavin
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the douchey British ex-boyfriendwas not in the movie.
He is the Jar Jar Binks of this movie.
I mean,
that may even be a little unfairto Jar Jar because I think we have
room to have a redemptionconversation about Jar.
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I think maybe he wastreated a little unfairly.
Well, I.
Say this guy, maybe not so much.
I'll say this about Jar,
and it's actually kind of a similarthing I have to say about this movie.
Jar Jar was not the only badthing about Star Wars episode one.
Yes.
Whereas Gavin is not theonly bad thing about where
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there are plenty of issueswith where the legal drama,
if you have almost even a passingknowledge and law if say you
were raised by a lawyer and a judge,
it's a lot of the first half ofwer is just going to seem like
dabbling nonsense toYou.
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I can just see your dad watchingthis, which is this confused look on.
So this is where my opinion actuallykind of differs from Melissa.
I actually really liked the secondhalf when what we're going to
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charitably call a werewolfwas tearing shit up.
There were some gore effects in thismovie that were actually well done.
And yeah,
he wasn't a werewolfin the standard sense,
but the bad werewolf, whose name I forget,
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the one that does most of thekilling. He was genuinely creepy.
And then Gavin started shaving himselffor no reason once he got infected.
And I don't understand why he did that.
That was so poorly established.
I mean,
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I think Twilight Fanficmay not be a completely
unfair description of this film.
I guess.
It's mean, but maybe accurate.
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I dunno. There was a lot about thatcharacter that rubbed me the wrong way.
Just he was such a punchabledouche in a way that
I
tolerate in horror moviesonly in very small doses.
And only if something veryspecific happens to them later that
spoilers because I don't care,did not happen to Gavin. And
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it also added,
and I mean this may just be a peppeeve of mine because I'm ace,
although I've heard plenty of non acepeople complain about this kind of thing
in movies. It added a romantic subplotto a movie that didn't need it.
Yeah. I think that's fair.
Yeah. Not all storiesneed a romantic subplot.
Most stories don't needa romantic subplot.
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Movie writers. It would be niceif you stopped adding them.
Yeah, I could see that.
You add them, write them better.
But you don't understandGrady, Grady, Grady,
he had really big feelings and he
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didn't need any of his body hair.
So how do you reconcile thosetwo things, big feelings,
body hair.
I want to pose that to our audience.
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How does it feel when you have bigfeelings and lots of body hair?
What can you do but shave yourself
and run around having Twilightshowdowns under the full
moon? I mean, he had no choice.
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I mean, that's completelyaccurate and true,
but I feel like that's an issue thatthat is a corner that the writers could
have avoided writing themselves into.
Well, yes. Yes, that's true.
If he had had less body hair,none of it would've been an issue.
It was not a good movie just.
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And also the shaky cam did not bother me
as much as it's starting tomake me realize something,
and I may not actually hate Shaky Cam,
I may just have dislikedjust about every shaky Cam
movie we've talked about for the podcastfor reasons completely independent of
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them being shaky Cam,
because my only issue with the shakycam in this movie is that there was
absolutely no reason for it to beshaky Cam. That made no goddamn sense.
Yeah, yeah. No, I'm agreeingright there with you.
But other than that weird camera choices.
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What you think of, I know it's beena few years, but what'd you think of
not 10 Cloverfield Lane, butCloverfield? The original
that I.
Liked it by virtue ofit being a Kaiju movie,
and I think I may havepared it in the comic at
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one point,
but I think that had more to do withjust the fact that I wanted to write a
Kaiju story where one ofmy characters grew giant,
and that was the most recent Kaiju movie.
But I remember liking it.
I have not bothered to seek it outin the years since it's come out,
so I'm not sure how well it's held up.
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Yeah, me neither. I.
Think especially afterseeing Godzilla minus one,
most Kaiju movies that aren't Godzillaminus one are going to look like horse
shit. So I'm probably not goingto seek it out anytime soon,
but I remember being finewith it when it came out.
Yeah, yeah. That's myrecollection too. But
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if that one didn't weird you out onthe shaky camp, then nothing will.
Oh yeah, I saw that intheaters. It had no problem.
I would remember if themovie made me physically ill.
I saw it between one of ourother college roommates, dwindle
Who, yes, that's his name, his selfdescribed nickname that he chose,
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that dwindle on one side,
and then a woman I didn't knowon the other, and I was fine,
but both of them were reallyhaving a hard time with it,
and I was convinced that if one of themspewed, the other one would as well.
And they had warning signsall over the theater going in,
this could give you motion sickness. AndDwindle was like, no, I can handle it.
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I'm a big boy.
I mean, granted it wasn't on a big screen,
but I remember him watching Blair Witchwith us and taking it like a champ. So.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They held it together,
but I was just sort of resignedfor a little while there.
If they both threw up, youwere going to throw up. I mean,
that's just how it works.
I was in the splash zone. Therewas no way I was going to avoid.
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It for reasons. Completelyindependent of the movie,
just you were going to have vomit on you.
Yes.
When the added dimension of smellwould really just ratchet that
experience into uncharted territory.
So I think it's safe to sayyou would not recommend where.
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Not if you have to pay money for it,
which as far as I can tellis it's not available on any
streaming services thatyou'd have and just
have it there for free. Payingfor the streaming service,
I think can only get it on demand.
And that's unfortunate becauseit is not good enough to pay
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for.
That would honestly be a fun hate watchto watch for free if you had that option
available to you. If itwere on Tubi or something,
I'd say get drunk and go for it.
So I think it's been on Tubi before,
I just think it maybe berotated an older movie,
so I'm sure it's been on stuff andoff stuff. The economics of streaming.
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I've looked everywhere for a way to watchit without having to pay money for it.
Yeah,
well keep an eye on it.
Sooner or later it'll probablybe everything winds up on two B sooner or later.
It's a gr inevitability.
So speaking of Godzilla, I watched,
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so at the conference inPhiladelphia the night before,
I should have been working. I shouldhave been doing all sorts of stuff.
And instead I was like, no,
actually I'm going to put Godzilla minusone minus color on in the background
because a lot of hotels these days,
you can log into your Netflixin the smart pv and that
lasted about 15 seconds.And then I realized,
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no, my entire being is going to be focusedon Godzilla for the next two hours.
That's just how it's goingto be. And I was fine with.
That. Yeah,
there are some movies that you can haveon in the background while you work.
This is not one of them.
And I thought, well, I've seenit before, and yeah, I had,
but also I hadn't
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the black and white version.
I think it's a yes and type ofthing because it is a gimmick in a
way, if not a gimmick, a vanity project,
it's a film snob move for film snobs.
This is not going to be widely viewed.
This is not what people are going toconsider the definitive edition of this
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movie.
Now this is someone at Toho thinkingon a whim that this was a good idea
and having enough clout to make it happen.
And he was,
or whoever they were was rightbecause they didn't just slap a
filter on there and go with it.
They actually did a lot of workediting it to where it looks
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like a movie from the forties or fifties,
especially when Godzillaisn't on the screen.
If you had told me this was shotin 1954 when the original one was
shot, I would've believed you.
It looks like an old samurai flick,
an old Japanese movie. It looks a lotlike some of our older westerns. It,
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it's just the way the shotsare composed and colorized.
They did their homework andit looks really, really cool.
Godzilla is clearly not a dude in a suit,
and it was a little bitharder to square the modern
CGI with the 1954, the vintage aesthetic.
It worked.
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It just also kind ofdefied that suspension of
disbelief at that point, you know.
Watching. Yeah,
it would've been interesting to seethem try to recreate the whole movie of
practical effects,
but I feel like at this point they wouldjust be lighting money on fire for the
sake of it. So I getwhy they didn't do that,
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as cool as that would've been.
Well, and Godzilla looks great inblack and white, don't get me wrong.
Especially when he's,
he does his nuke blast and thetail and all the spines light up.
This was an awesomely designedGodzilla is just clearly
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been designed and animatedusing techniques that were not available in 1954.
And that's going to cause some whiplashif you watch this version of the movie.
Yes, yes, yes. Other than that though,
it was really well done.And I'm sitting there,
it's like 1230, I have a panel inthe morning. I should not be up.
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I should not be in.
I'm just sitting there on the bed fightingback tears by the end of this movie
because it's just grabbedme emotionally again.
And I knew what was going tohappen and I knew, did you.
See the thing on the neck this time?
I did. Yes, I did.
And it is sort of ablank and you'll miss it,
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but it is clearly there on purpose.
I don't know what that means. I dunno.
I chose to ignore it in the momentbecause the ending works much better
that way, I think. But I did see it.You're right. And that is a real clever,
and the camera does kind oflinger on it for a bit. So.
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I noticed it on the rewatch because Iwas kind of debating with myself, okay,
does this ending work? Does thisending not work? Is this a compound?
What the hell is that?What the hell is that?
Yep, yep, yep. But
I think it's a good example of a movie.
It would've had an emotional impacton me a couple of years ago, but now,
especially with Roz,
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because there's a littlegirl in the movie that just,
it's a shorter route to gutpunch for a lot of movies.
And this one's up there.
So I don't know if you're a film
guy or a film person and you justreally into the black and white
style, absolutely watch it.If you're a casual viewer,
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are you going to like itmore than the color? I dunno.
But the AV Club has anarticle about a lot of
movies that did this, and it'sa lot more than I thought,
and it is sort of usually anart house or a maybe not vanity
project,
but definitely a really passionatecreation for a relatively
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small audience.
Dude at the studio thought itwould be neat and made it happen.
Yeah.
The one that I hadn't thought about thatI want to see now is there's a black
and white version of Mad Max Fury Road
I didn't realize existed,
and I could see that workingreally well in black and white too.
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And again, is it Vanityproject? Yes. Is it cool also?
Yes.
That one's a little bit of a hardersell for me just because Godzilla. Yeah,
I think black and white,
because Godzilla has a history thatstarts in the black and white film era,
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fury Road.
There's some connections therethat my brain's not making.
Yeah, I mean, that's fair. That's fair.Let's see, what else was on the list?
Raiders of the Lost Arc?
Steven Soderberg did a blackand white version that I could.
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See,
that I can see based onthe old Pulp Action Hero
movies of the past,
so that I can see.
Let's see, Logan,
the Wolverine movie thatwas kind of a neo western
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Logan Noir. I could maybe see that.
If it weren't tied into X-Men.
Yeah.
That's the only, yeah, no,
the general tone of the movie.
If you can divorce yourself from thefact that it's Wolverine, then yeah,
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it's totally a black and white noir movie,
but it is impossible to divorce yourbrain from the fact that it's Wolverine
because he's.
Wolverine. Yes. Nightmare Alley,
which was said back in the thirties,I think. So that makes sense too.
I wanted to see that one.
I just haven't gotten to ityet for literally no reason.
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So maybe a mixed bag, butI think it's a cool option,
and odds are if you're listeningto a niche horror podcast,
you're probably the niche kind of moviefan that would at least be interested in
some of them. So
yeah, you want to tell me about serialkillers from the eighties on Tubi?
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Oh my God, I'm getting chills justhearing that out loud. I'm getting chills.
Alright, so
I did angst from 1983. It's from Austria,
and I picked this movie the way that Ioften pick movies when I don't have the
specific one in mind.
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I type foreign horror movie into Google,
and I sort through the AI generatedlist that it provides me until I
get to one that we haven'tdone for the podcast yet.
And that's actually foreign availablefrom streaming and is in fact a real movie
because sometimes AI generatedare going to lead you a stray.
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And this week it gave me something that's
kind of out of my wheelhouse, but I'mgoing to do my best to do it justice.
The IDB summary,
A troubled ma'am with an unsettlingresemblance to Conan O'Brien gets released
from prison and starts taking out hissadistic fantasies on unsuspecting family
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living in a secluded house.I added the part about Conan.
No, but I could see it. Ipulled up the IMDB myself and.
He looks like ConanO'Brien in a Tommy wig.
Yeah, he kind of does. Yeah,maybe a little younger, but yeah, I could. Oh, yep.
There's no escaping that. Yep.
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So this movie is loosely basedon the Real Life Murderer
Warner Music. I probably didn't pronouncethis right, but this guy's a scumbag,
so I don't care
who tortured and killed a family ofthree shortly after being released from
prison on parole.
And this was a gruesome case with severerepercussions for the Austrian criminal
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justice system that I can'treally go into too much detail
because this movie followed that story
closely enough that doing so wouldjust spoil the crap out of the movie.
But if you want, you'rea big true crime guy,
or if you don't feel like sleepingtonight, feel free to look the guy up.
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And because of him,
Austrian prisons are a lot more selectiveabout which criminals they let out on
parole and they dopsychiatric evaluations now,
and that's a whole thing.
When was the crime? Was this a recent,
so the movie was 83?
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Yeah, I probably shouldhave put that in my notes.
I want to say mid seventies.
Okay, so not.
Immediate, not super recent, but yeah,
not like a rip from the headlights. Close.
Enough.
This movie was also a band in mostof Europe for being too violent
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and nice was actually not distributedin the United States in any
capacity. No DVDs, no streaminguntil a couple years ago.
And now it's on to me.
Now it's on Tub Me.
God, I love you. Tubi never changed.
That said, our standards here atImported Horror, it's pretty tight,
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but
the fact that it was censored at all isjust interesting to me and I thought it
was worth mentioning.
Yeah.
Well it was.
Probably on the.
Yeah.
I was going to say it wasprobably on the video nasty list.
Oh, almost certainly.
And that's always a fun list to look over.
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I just said that I wasn't goingto go too into the guy's real life
history because it would spoil the movie.
There is one thing about this moviethat I am absolutely going to spoil
because I know that the mystery ofit would maybe negatively impact some
people's enjoyment of it.
I am going to spoil the fateof the family's wiener dog.
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Who has a line in thecredits. Actually, Cuba.
Yes.
Was the dog's real name?
Yes. Now,
given the tone and howmessed up the villain is,
it's going to seem incredibly likelythat the dog will die in a gruesome
fashion. The dog does not.
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The dog survives the moviemostly because it is hilariously
indifferent to the plight of this family.
For example, I.
Shouldn't be laughing, but that's great.
When the killer, and I'm not beingvague with Garita or anything,
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no one in this movie has names.
When the killer is going afterthe elderly woman of the family,
the dog cares way more about eatingthe elderly woman's dentures,
which is presumably a treat thatthe dog has been often denied.
They're making any effort toprotect his owner whatsoever.
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The dog actually decides at some pointthrough doggy logic that the killer is
his new best friend and just happilyfollows him around the house and gets in a
car with him.
The killer feeds him a sausage.
Which I mean, maybe that's some deep
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emotional metaphoric takeon crime and punishment,
or maybe it's just the dog was having ablast and the actor and the dog really
got along. It could literally beanything with this kind of movie,
because to me.
And on a second watch when Iwasn't worried about, oh God,
what is he going to do to that poor dog?That part was really funny to watch.
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Well, sadly, this wasCuba's only appearance,
his only IMDB credit,
and there are no photos of Cuba on imdb.
So I think we need justice for Cuba.
He is a wiener dog. Picturea wiener dog. You've got.
Uba.
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The cinematography in thismovie was really cool.
It was mostly a bunch of reallyweird angles and long tracking
shots. A lot of them werekind of focused on the killer.
If this weren't made in the eighties,I'd swear he had a GoPro attached to him.
And just kind of focusing on
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his face as he just gets more and moreunhinged as he's wondering the house. And
there's also almost nodialogue between the
characters. And
pretty much all of the expedition thatwe get in the movie is the American
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psycho esque narration fromthe killer's perspective.
And Z goes into his backstory and whyhe is doing all this stuff and what he's
planning to do next. And
being brutally honest,
I kind of feel like the moviecould have done without it.
Yeah.
Part of it is because,
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and it also ties into whyI had to watch it twice.
This movie is only available in subtitles.
And when the narration is only
tangentially related to what'sactually happening on screen,
that's a problem.
If you don't understand the languagethat's being spoken and have to read it
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underneath on the bottom of the screen
and rewatching it,
and not paying attention to the subtitleswhatsoever made me realize, Hey,
none of that needed to be in this movie.It was all kind of cliched anyway.
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Well, there was in a violent nature,
I think just hit Shutteris about to hit shutter,
but the camera's just following acreepy serial killer. And there's no,
to my knowledge, there's no reasoning,there's no logic, there's no exposition.
It's just murder. Murder,gruesome murder, gruesome murder,
maybe sort of a similar vibe.
(44:14):
And yeah, that's what thismovie should have been too. Two,
really nothing was added by the running
commentary of, wow, mystepdad was mean to me,
and now I like to scare peoplebefore I kill them. Wow.
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The movie didn't need that.
Yeah, I could see that.
And the soundtrack was good.
It was aggressively eighties horror.
Nice.
Heavy on the synths.
Nice.
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And the family that The killer targets
are super weird and probablydeserved to be in their own
movie in sort of a Austrian Texaschainsaw massacre kind of vibe.
Okay.
Because they live in thisbig empty house that kind
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of looks run down. And theDoist reason for it is obvious.
This was a small, independent film.
This is probably the onlylocation they could get,
but the Watsonian reason for why theylive this is just completely open to
interpretation.
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And the family consistsof the elderly woman,
her adult daughter,
and her mentally challenged adult son.
And the mentally challengedadult son kind of feels like
a Michael Palin playinga character in Amani
Python skit, which is super distracting.
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But minor spoilers,
he is not in the movie long enoughfor that to matter too much.
And the other thing that jumps out atme is that the serial killer is super
incompetent,
but they actually managed to playthis for scariness and not for laughs
because the fact that he's so bad at whathe is doing means all of the terrible
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stuff he's doing to thisfamily just takes longer now.
Yeah, that's a fine line to walk. Yeah.
There's this one scene wherethe young woman escapes and is
running through the house in thedark trying to get away from him.
And on paper,
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it should be funny because of howeasily she escapes from the truly
half-assed way that he had hercaptured. And he doesn't know her name,
so he is just saying, Hey, lady Lady,and trying to call her like a dog.
And he's also moving really weird becauseof other things that have happened to
him throughout the movie,
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but the way it's shot and just theominous buildup actually makes it kind of
scary.
I can see that.
And a big part of that is the actor the
killer. His name is
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Erwin Litter. I'm probablynot pronouncing that right.
He's a prolific German character actor and
unsettling similarityto Conan O'Brien aside,
he is really good at playinga creepy, violent weirdo.
Yeah, I pulled up his, he wasin Das Boot, the original.
(47:57):
Yeah. He's got, I mean, let's see here,
120 titles on imd. Good Lord.
Yeah. If you know German cinema, he'sbasically that guy that's everywhere.
Yeah.
Motion picture, Terra Scale. Iwill give this a solid three.
Just the movie is actuallygood at being creepy at points.
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Quality is a four for such a small budget.
This movie was shot really well.
The cliche backstory and somefilming choices that were kind of
weird for the sake of being weird,
kind of hold it back frombeing a five enjoyment.
I'm going to give it a three.
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This movie was perfectlygood for what it was,
and learning about the reallife stuff was interesting.
But at the end of the day,true crime isn't my jam,
and this movie didn't reallydo much to change my mind.
That's fair. That's fair. I can see that.
I would recommend it to both you,
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because I know some of the trackingshots of cinematography are going to be
right up your alley,
and I'd recommend it to Melissa becauseI know the true crime thing will be up
her alley.
She would've loved to watch this beforeshe suffocated to death. Yes. Very sad.
Yes.
Well, I'll check it out. I'll mentionit to Emily too, if not the movie,
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the Guy, because she listensto so much true crime stuff.
I'm sure she's heard of him, sothat'll be interesting. Well,
the other one,
so before I left thePhiladelphia that Saturday night,
I was in kind of a weird mood,
and I didn't want to watch a bad moviebecause I didn't want to be disappointed,
but I also didn't want to get too intoa movie too invested in something.
(49:51):
And that's a real fine line towalk when you're looking for.
Okay.
And it was starting to rain in real life.
And I stumbled across on Tubi,
a movie called Into the Abyss,
(50:13):
and the Spanish title is me Contrera Pro.
Desmo, which translates to you willfind me in the depths of the abyss,
which is just objectively abetter title. 10 out of 10,
no notes. That'sfantastic. So much better.
(50:35):
The IMDB summary, trying to escapedanger in a post-apocalyptic world,
then in realize that his existencewill be put to the test. Okay.
Well, so it's horror withlove, crafty, monster things,
and it's basically somewherebetween 28 days later and
Blade Runner. Okay.
(50:58):
Because most of the movie is this guywandering around through this broken
city at the end of the worldwith big love crafty monsters and
smaller person sized screechy, love,
crafty and monsters chasing him througheverything. Those are almost worse.
Yeah. Oh,
they're definitely scarier. They'redefinitely scarier than the big ones.
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And there's not a ton of backstory.There's not a ton of exposition.
There's not even that much dialogue.
There's just a ton of rain and a tonof atmosphere and a ton of vibes.
And it looks like a darker,
maybe more rundown version of the opening
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scene from The Matrix,but without the Kung fu,
the cityscape,
imagine it darker traipsing alongthe rooftops and everything else.
Atmospherically, the vibes were10 out of 10. It was raining.
I'm imagining like a dark city sortof situation. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And it's not black and white,
but it feels kind of black andwhite just because it's all
atmosphere. It's pensive,
it's moody. It is all kinds of weird,
and because it's slow and becausethey rarely stop to tell you anything,
(52:22):
it is actually really scary. So it'sa slow burn, but you also feel it.
And the Blade Runner with all the rainand the sci-fi, it just vibe wise,
it totally worked for me. It's vague,
I think purposefully.
So it never really tells youwhat the monsters are or what
(52:46):
happened.
You just get snippetsand it escalates in ways
that might feel kind of strange.
It worked for me partly becausethere's one blink and you miss it
line of dialogue that changesthe entire framework of the movie
and made it actually,
(53:07):
I took it into a place that's reallyconsistent with my worldview and my
background. I don't know if that's justme seeing what I want to see or if,
if that was actuallyintended. I have no idea.
Part of it comes down to a translationquestion, and it's not a translation.
Spanish and English. Thismovie is Argentinian.
It's something more complicated than that.
(53:29):
We would've the same issuewith the same word in English.
So if you're not feelingambiguous and maybe a little
weird, actually not, maybe a lotweird. Definitely a lot weird.
Then this isn't your movie, butespecially if it's raining outside, oh,
(53:50):
that was the perfect,
but it's gloomy vibes. It's atmospheric
weird. And I normally don'tlike post-apocalyptic stuff,
and this one really workedfor me. It is murky,
and there's not even that much dialogue.It almost felt like a video game,
(54:12):
like a survival horrorvideo game, because Bannon,
the guy you're following,finds a walkie-talkie,
and he finds a frequency on the wall.
So he dials into the frequency and hejust starts talking and somebody answers.
And so most of the movie,
he's just talking to thewalkie-talkie and avoiding the
things, the lovecraft and things,the aliens, the whatever they are,
(54:36):
he's avoiding them.
So it feels very video gameybecause that whole setup and
the atmosphere. Yeah,
I gave it a three on Letterboxed,
it probably deserves a three and ahalf just because, yeah, the ending,
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either it'll work for you or itwon't, but the vibes are just
scratch that itch. If I need somethingdifferent and I need something,
I don't need to think about toohard, but it's still captivating.
And this just nailed that for me.
So I don't know that I'd pay money for it,
but it's on Tubi and
(55:22):
I feel like a fanboy like Tubi, yay, go.
But that's sort of where I'mat right now. That's Fair.
Tub has a place in our popular culture.
Yeah. And I think you'd likeit for the video game vibes.
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I think Melissa might,
I'm curious if eitherof y'all ever watch it,
because I want to know if you catch thatone line of dialogue and you take the
same thing from it, or if youcatch something else or if it,
yeah. And not that much has been writtenabout this. That's the other thing.
(56:05):
There are a couple of reviews, but way,
way less than I was expecting. Or
noir sci-fi horror. Yeah.
That's cool. Have check it. So
(56:26):
yeah, probably enjoymentwas probably a five.
The tear scale, maybe a two, maybea three. Quality. Yeah. Three,
maybe three and a half,three in the moment.
But I also tend to be kind ofgenerous and I'm trying to fight that.
So maybe it deserved alittle more than that.
(56:48):
So do we want to spin the wheel ordo we want to give it another break?
I actually have no ideawhat I'm doing next time.
So why don't we spin the wheel.
Got to find the wheel. Where'd you go?Wheel, you're on my phone somewhere.
There you are.
(57:28):
Onibaba from 1964 maybe.
Yeah, this looks like somethingthat I would pick. Okay. Okay.
This is definitely, oh,it's on Max. Delightful.
So this is 1964.
(57:49):
It's from Japan.
You can tell that just from lookingat the poster. Yep. Yep. Oh yeah. No,
this does look cool. I thinkI remember reading about this.
Two women kill Samurai and sell theirbelongings for a living while one
of them is having anaffair with their neighbor.
The other woman meets a mysterioussamurai wearing a bizarre mask.
(58:12):
I think this is an oldschool folk, folk horror.
And I think I read about it in anarticle or an anthology collection of
Fulco. Yeah.
But this looks cool. Okay, sweet.
I'll absolutely do thatnext week. Nice. Thank you,
(58:35):
will we very much appreciate it. Well,
if you're still listening, followus on Threads and Letterboxed.
Give us a shout out over emailor your social media of choice.
Tell your friends about it, tell yourfamily, tell anybody into horror. Hey,
these guys are cool, and have a podcast.
(58:55):
You should listen and sendcondolences to Melissa
for her tragic demiseat the hands of her cat.
Yeah. Hopefully she won't beback from the dead next week.
Maybe it'll be like a Buffy theVampire Slayer season seven.
And we'll have the seanceand she'll claw through the
(59:20):
grave and she'll be all pissybecause we pulled her out of heaven.
And it'll be like a little,maybe it was season six.
I don't know. After Buffy wasgood. I think that's reasonable.
Anyway, we'll talk to y'all next week.
Am I still here?
Yes.
Okay. My internet is flirting with death,
which is unfortunate.
Welcome to my world. I am at 0% uploading,
so.
Oh, me too, actually. Sweet.
Okay.
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Well.
If this ends up being a lost episode,it ends up being a lost episode.
Let's just roll with it.
(00:49):
So welcome to Imported Horror.
This is the podcast that brings youthe very best of cosmic nightmares,
gray scaled titans andEuropean serial killers on
Tubi from Beyond theShining Seas. I'm Marcus.
I'm here with one of my creepy co-hosts.
Grady.
(01:09):
And we have sad, tragic news to report.
I hope you're sittingdown when you hear this,
but Melissa will not be joiningus because her cat Lucy,
better known as Lucy Fur. Get it,get it, get it. Do you get it?
Do you get it though? LikeLucifer? Like the devil,
like the adversary.
(01:31):
Lucifer the fallen star. Anyway,
Lucifer slept on Melissa'sface all last night,
and Melissa did not wake upand she suffocated to death on Satan's butt and now
she's dead.
Well, I think deep down, we both knewthis was how she was going to go.
(01:52):
I think she wanted it this way. Yeah.
Once a strong word
resigned. Acceptance. Maybe.
We will be doing thecelebratory New Jersey
(02:12):
farewell.
We will buy a 40 and go a bridge and drink
a little bit of it,
and then probably just drop it overinto the water and that'll be it.
Are we also firing our guns in the airor am I confusing Jersey and Texas again?
I don't know. Let's just tryit and see what happens. Okay.
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She lived in two differentworlds way She would have. Yes,
Lucy, meanwhile will moveon. Probably. You made.
Us do this, Melissa.
Probably claim Dan nextand then who knows?
The world is his terrifyingoyster. Her terrifying oyster.
I'm actually not sure it's her. I think.
(02:53):
I'm 90% sure of that.
If only I remember whenthey first got her,
she was in heat and they werereally afraid that she'd get res.
Ah, that's right. Yes, yes, yes. Well,
and the antichrist transcendsgender in many traditional and
(03:14):
nontraditional ways. So.
As we learned from the latestversion of the omen. Yes.
Yes, yes. There you go. There you go.
So pour one out for Ms. Persia and in the
meantime we've got this.
Week her ghost may or maynot be back next week.
We'll see.
I might say on skills are Rusty.
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This week we've got into the Abyss,
a trippy sci-fi noir that Ifound on Tubi from Argentina,
and I watched Godzilla minusone minus color on Netflix,
which there's not a whole lot tosay that we haven't talked about,
but I still want to touch on it. Sure.
Gritty also found a Tubby movie.
(03:58):
Yes. I will be talking, well, first ofall, I'm going to be talking about where,
which is what Melissa did last time.
I promised somewhatIll-advised Lee to be the
moderator because youand Melissa had some,
I don't even remember ify'all had disagreements,
but something caused me to say, okay,
(04:18):
I'll see this movie andtell you what I think.
And even though Melissa's not here,
even though she has disappeared up Satan'sbutt or whatever the hell story you
made up about why she'snot here this week,
I am going to give my thoughts on where,
because I paid actual real worldmoney to watch where and I refuse to
(04:40):
let that go to waste.
I think that's reasonable. No argument.
I also watched angst in a cult
movie from Austria from 1983. It is,
as Marcus alluded to also on Tobe.
It is a semit true storyabout a serial killer,
(05:02):
and I will get into thatwhen we get into that.
That's cool. That's cool.Well, in the meantime,
we have two drops to talkabout over the next week.
(05:23):
So both these are from Southeast Asia.
August overall is pretty dry because Isuspect the spooky season is right around
the corner.
Emily and I are already strategizing ourtrip to Spirit Halloween because we are
going all out this year and maybe this.
May very will be the firstHalloween that Roz has memories of.
(05:44):
So you need to go out out this year?
I think so. I think so. So I don'tknow when we're going to do it.
If we want to September 1st,
or if we want to wait until the lastweek of September, I don't know.
We're still on the fence,
but gothic fences will be a part ofthe aesthetic we've already decided.
But one of these is on Shutter,the other one is on Netflix.
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The first is Shutteron Friday, August 16th,
and that's Dancing Village.
The curse begins from Indonesia,
and I got to say that's akiller title. I love that title.
And I took the IMDB and I cutit down and I reworded it.
(06:28):
So this is DI.
MDB was loaded with spoilersit again more than I.
No, it was just kind of lengthy and
the copy editor in me had to just print.
It. It's really only funny whenit's about Du I understand.
Shaman instructs Myla.
Mila Shaman instructs Mila toreturn a mystical bracelet,
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the atu,
a mystical bracelet tothe dancing village,
a remote site on the easternmost tipof Java Island when she decides to
return it without thehelp of a missing village,
elder Mila must help curse someoneto dance for the rest of her
(07:11):
life. And there's alittle bit of backstory,
you might not know this isa prequel to KKN and I'm
sorry, my Indonesian is evenworse than my Spanish did
Ari, which is the highest grossingIndonesian film of all time.
(07:32):
So there's that. Interesting.
This one I think is getting awider shutters, picked it up.
It's getting a wider release here inthe States. You can find the other one,
but I think it's a little harder,
and I'm totally here for dancing horror.
You can have a ton of fun with the bodyhorror and the dancing and the rhythmic.
(07:54):
I think.
That's one of the scenarios in Betrayalat House Sun Haunted Hill that we've
actually gotten.
Yes.
I think I remember that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like an evil.
Music box or something that madeplayers dance uncontrollably,
something like that.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes. This movie does lookcreepy. Questionable. CGI,
(08:18):
snakes Aside,
and it looks like it's going to go insome really scary impedes directions,
but
there's one scene fromthe trailer that I keep
getting hung up on,
and that is where apparently thefact that this girl drank the
(08:38):
coffee with the sweetand low in it means that
she is being selected to bethe debts or she is getting
sacrificed to this village asequivalent of the wicker man.
And as far as barbariclotteries and creepy
villages go,
(08:58):
that one feels ripe for abuse.
Call it the Starbucks treatment. Yeah.
I'm sure there's some culturalthing that I'm not getting,
but that's where I got hung up.
(09:20):
Yeah, yeah, I could seethat. I could see that.
It could be, I mean, they're prettyserious about coffee down there. Java,
the term is from the island, orat least named after the island.
But yeah, I dunno.
It does look like it could be creepy,
but the dancing that we sawin the trailer was sort of
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clumsy and awkward, almost looking likeit was clumsy and awkward by design,
which that wasn't, ifyou tell me dance horror,
I want to see some freakydance moves with my horror.
Sure. They may just not beputting that in the trailer,
but speaking of someone who tookan East Asian religions class in
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college, the awkward dancing,
that's a lot more true to life.
And you can play withthat too. I don't know.
It made me think of the Suspiria remake,
which has some controversy because, well,
(10:26):
not even controversy,
it just has very little to do with theoriginal ria and they took the name and
it's basically different movie, butit does have that dancing angle.
And dancers do some freakydance body horror stuff,
and it's very differentkind of dancing, but
there's plenty of room there. SoI'm hoping that they play with that.
(10:47):
They really double downon the dancing part of it.
I have no rhythm incase anybody is curious.
The only dance I can do is to Macarena.And even that, it's been a little while.
I have no physical rhythm.
Give me a rhythm based videogame or a musical instrument.
I'm there if I have tophysically move to rhythm myself,
(11:10):
that shit ain't happening.
What was that game with the, it'slike Zelda, but it's to a beat,
like a rhythm, rhythmdancer. Yes, yes, yes.
This gave off those vibes. I.
Have never made it past thesecond level in that game.
That has nothing to do with my senseof rhythm and everything to do with the
fact that that game is fucking hard.
(11:37):
It looks hard,
but I can see this being a lotof fun. So I hope it's good.
I hope it works out.
I can move in rhythm just fine.
I just can't keep track of when theskeletons are about to attack or not
are very tiny.
Sliding difficulty of some sort.
(12:02):
On Tuesday the 20th we have, oh, okay.
That's why it's coming out ona Tuesday. That makes it, okay.
The title of it is Terror Tuesday Extreme
from Thailand. It's dropping on Netflix,
a collection of haunting hitstories inspired by the Terror
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Tuesday radio program withterrorizing twists and turns that are
dialed up to the extreme.
This is an eight episode anthology series.
I'm totally here forthe radio angle station.
I'm totally here forthe radio station angle.
I dunno how extreme the trailer looked,
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but you give me some radio looks I.
Can work. It looks actuallygoing to go some places.
I'm reluctant to admitthis because it exposes how
ignorant I am sometimes of the things wereview and the countries they're from.
But my first thought whenwatching this trailer was, oh God,
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please don't tell me thisis Indonesian. I said,
in my Nightmares and Daydreams reviewthat it was the only part of this big
Netflix push in Indonesia that isrelevant to our show. If I miss this,
it's going to make me look like an idiot.And then I checked on, I was like, oh.
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Yeah. It does look kind ofsimilar in some ways though.
Anthology series fromthat part of the world,
maybe not as much, butat least a little bit.
Yeah, my personal guess,just based on the trailer,
and I will review thiseventually, maybe not next week,
but sometime is I'mguessing it's going to be
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less stylish thanNightmares and daydreams,
but a bit more intense. I mean, yeah,
the Nightmares and Daydreamsis by Joko Andmore,
but he really only got his joko more onin a couple of episodes, whereas this,
at least from the trailer,
feels like maybe it'll only goup to an eight instead of a 10,
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but it'll go up to thateight a lot more often.
I can see that. I can definitely see that.
I do wonder about Tuesday.
That's got to be the leastscary day of the week. Right?
It's like Monday you don'twant to go back to work. No,
Wednesday is hump day and you're justthinking about Thursday and Friday.
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Saturday isn't scary.
No, I mean it's the day that, I mean,
Friday and Saturday are the daythat you get most horror things,
but it has nothing to do withthe day itself being scary.
It's the day that you can stay up aslate as you want watching horror crap.
Yeah. Yeah. I dunno. Yeah, I mean,
Monday the 13th would not have hadthe same impact or that doesn't work.
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So Tuesday, Tuesday isan interesting choice.
Maybe I'm just missing somethingabout there Thai work week,
or maybe there's somethingabout Tuesday. I dunno.
It's the only day of the week thatbegins with a hard tea and they had to
iterate it with terror.
That's true. That's true. Thealliteration is important. That's clutch.
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This could just as easily havebeen Taco Tuesday Extreme,
but Island isn't as bigabout tacos as we're.
I'm a big fan of tacos though.Taco Tuesday. I'm here for that,
which I did not. So I was in, oh,
we were off last week partly becauseI was out of town at a conference and
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partly just because everybodyhad, Grady had stuff to do.
Melissa was busy gettingsuffocated by her cat and want to
thank Philadelphia for y'all'shospitality. It was a great conference.
We were right near theReading Terminal market,
which is like a big callingit a mall isn't accurate,
but it's just a ton ofrestaurants and food stores and
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tourist trinket places andeverything. It was really good.
Got some good cheesesteak, got some good food,
but I was not brave enough totry the barbecue or the tacos in
Philadelphia. And I hope y'alldon't take it personally.
I'm not brave enough to try the tacos in
anywhere north of here. I was going toname a specific state and then I started
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having this paralysis ofwait, do they have good wait,
do they have good tacos? Am Igoing to offend our audience?
Do I care about Northour audience about this?
No.
I've decided I don't, I'm afraidto try tacos in Tennessee.
I definitely don't want totry them in Philadelphia.
Yep, yep. That is the correct answer.
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And I lived in San Antoniofor more than a decade.
I am allowed to be inelitist brick about tacos.
Oh god. San Antonio.
Oh, I loved it. Oh my God.
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So do you,
tell me your thoughts on where,
which is the Romanian werewolf horror
movie that we talked about last week?
Well, I'm just going to go ahead andrip the mandate off this movie was bad.
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What? No.
But there's a very specificelement of it that bad that I think
deserves special mention. See,
I think both the procedurallegal drama first half and
the super violent werewolf,
second half would've been better if Gavin
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the douchey British ex-boyfriendwas not in the movie.
He is the Jar Jar Binks of this movie.
I mean,
that may even be a little unfairto Jar Jar because I think we have
room to have a redemptionconversation about Jar.
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I think maybe he wastreated a little unfairly.
Well, I.
Say this guy, maybe not so much.
I'll say this about Jar,
and it's actually kind of a similarthing I have to say about this movie.
Jar Jar was not the only badthing about Star Wars episode one.
Yes.
Whereas Gavin is not theonly bad thing about where
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there are plenty of issueswith where the legal drama,
if you have almost even a passingknowledge and law if say you
were raised by a lawyer and a judge,
it's a lot of the first half ofwer is just going to seem like
dabbling nonsense toYou.
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I can just see your dad watchingthis, which is this confused look on.
So this is where my opinion actuallykind of differs from Melissa.
I actually really liked the secondhalf when what we're going to
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charitably call a werewolfwas tearing shit up.
There were some gore effects in thismovie that were actually well done.
And yeah,
he wasn't a werewolfin the standard sense,
but the bad werewolf, whose name I forget,
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the one that does most of thekilling. He was genuinely creepy.
And then Gavin started shaving himselffor no reason once he got infected.
And I don't understand why he did that.
That was so poorly established.
I mean,
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I think Twilight Fanficmay not be a completely
unfair description of this film.
I guess.
It's mean, but maybe accurate.
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I dunno. There was a lot about thatcharacter that rubbed me the wrong way.
Just he was such a punchabledouche in a way that
I
tolerate in horror moviesonly in very small doses.
And only if something veryspecific happens to them later that
spoilers because I don't care,did not happen to Gavin. And
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it also added,
and I mean this may just be a peppeeve of mine because I'm ace,
although I've heard plenty of non acepeople complain about this kind of thing
in movies. It added a romantic subplotto a movie that didn't need it.
Yeah. I think that's fair.
Yeah. Not all storiesneed a romantic subplot.
Most stories don't needa romantic subplot.
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Movie writers. It would be niceif you stopped adding them.
Yeah, I could see that.
You add them, write them better.
But you don't understandGrady, Grady, Grady,
he had really big feelings and he
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didn't need any of his body hair.
So how do you reconcile thosetwo things, big feelings,
body hair.
I want to pose that to our audience.
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How does it feel when you have bigfeelings and lots of body hair?
What can you do but shave yourself
and run around having Twilightshowdowns under the full
moon? I mean, he had no choice.
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I mean, that's completelyaccurate and true,
but I feel like that's an issue thatthat is a corner that the writers could
have avoided writing themselves into.
Well, yes. Yes, that's true.
If he had had less body hair,none of it would've been an issue.
It was not a good movie just.
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And also the shaky cam did not bother me
as much as it's starting tomake me realize something,
and I may not actually hate Shaky Cam,
I may just have dislikedjust about every shaky Cam
movie we've talked about for the podcastfor reasons completely independent of
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them being shaky Cam,
because my only issue with the shakycam in this movie is that there was
absolutely no reason for it to beshaky Cam. That made no goddamn sense.
Yeah, yeah. No, I'm agreeingright there with you.
But other than that weird camera choices.
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What you think of, I know it's beena few years, but what'd you think of
not 10 Cloverfield Lane, butCloverfield? The original
that I.
Liked it by virtue ofit being a Kaiju movie,
and I think I may havepared it in the comic at
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one point,
but I think that had more to do withjust the fact that I wanted to write a
Kaiju story where one ofmy characters grew giant,
and that was the most recent Kaiju movie.
But I remember liking it.
I have not bothered to seek it outin the years since it's come out,
so I'm not sure how well it's held up.
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Yeah, me neither. I.
Think especially afterseeing Godzilla minus one,
most Kaiju movies that aren't Godzillaminus one are going to look like horse
shit. So I'm probably not goingto seek it out anytime soon,
but I remember being finewith it when it came out.
Yeah, yeah. That's myrecollection too. But
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if that one didn't weird you out onthe shaky camp, then nothing will.
Oh yeah, I saw that intheaters. It had no problem.
I would remember if themovie made me physically ill.
I saw it between one of ourother college roommates, dwindle
Who, yes, that's his name, his selfdescribed nickname that he chose,
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that dwindle on one side,
and then a woman I didn't knowon the other, and I was fine,
but both of them were reallyhaving a hard time with it,
and I was convinced that if one of themspewed, the other one would as well.
And they had warning signsall over the theater going in,
this could give you motion sickness. AndDwindle was like, no, I can handle it.
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I'm a big boy.
I mean, granted it wasn't on a big screen,
but I remember him watching Blair Witchwith us and taking it like a champ. So.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They held it together,
but I was just sort of resignedfor a little while there.
If they both threw up, youwere going to throw up. I mean,
that's just how it works.
I was in the splash zone. Therewas no way I was going to avoid.
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It for reasons. Completelyindependent of the movie,
just you were going to have vomit on you.
Yes.
When the added dimension of smellwould really just ratchet that
experience into uncharted territory.
So I think it's safe to sayyou would not recommend where.
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Not if you have to pay money for it,
which as far as I can tellis it's not available on any
streaming services thatyou'd have and just
have it there for free. Payingfor the streaming service,
I think can only get it on demand.
And that's unfortunate becauseit is not good enough to pay
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for.
That would honestly be a fun hate watchto watch for free if you had that option
available to you. If itwere on Tubi or something,
I'd say get drunk and go for it.
So I think it's been on Tubi before,
I just think it maybe berotated an older movie,
so I'm sure it's been on stuff andoff stuff. The economics of streaming.
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I've looked everywhere for a way to watchit without having to pay money for it.
Yeah,
well keep an eye on it.
Sooner or later it'll probablybe everything winds up on two B sooner or later.
It's a gr inevitability.
So speaking of Godzilla, I watched,
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so at the conference inPhiladelphia the night before,
I should have been working. I shouldhave been doing all sorts of stuff.
And instead I was like, no,
actually I'm going to put Godzilla minusone minus color on in the background
because a lot of hotels these days,
you can log into your Netflixin the smart pv and that
lasted about 15 seconds.And then I realized,
(27:59):
no, my entire being is going to be focusedon Godzilla for the next two hours.
That's just how it's goingto be. And I was fine with.
That. Yeah,
there are some movies that you can haveon in the background while you work.
This is not one of them.
And I thought, well, I've seenit before, and yeah, I had,
but also I hadn't
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the black and white version.
I think it's a yes and type ofthing because it is a gimmick in a
way, if not a gimmick, a vanity project,
it's a film snob move for film snobs.
This is not going to be widely viewed.
This is not what people are going toconsider the definitive edition of this
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movie.
Now this is someone at Toho thinkingon a whim that this was a good idea
and having enough clout to make it happen.
And he was,
or whoever they were was rightbecause they didn't just slap a
filter on there and go with it.
They actually did a lot of workediting it to where it looks
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like a movie from the forties or fifties,
especially when Godzillaisn't on the screen.
If you had told me this was shotin 1954 when the original one was
shot, I would've believed you.
It looks like an old samurai flick,
an old Japanese movie. It looks a lotlike some of our older westerns. It,
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it's just the way the shotsare composed and colorized.
They did their homework andit looks really, really cool.
Godzilla is clearly not a dude in a suit,
and it was a little bitharder to square the modern
CGI with the 1954, the vintage aesthetic.
It worked.
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It just also kind ofdefied that suspension of
disbelief at that point, you know.
Watching. Yeah,
it would've been interesting to seethem try to recreate the whole movie of
practical effects,
but I feel like at this point they wouldjust be lighting money on fire for the
sake of it. So I getwhy they didn't do that,
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as cool as that would've been.
Well, and Godzilla looks great inblack and white, don't get me wrong.
Especially when he's,
he does his nuke blast and thetail and all the spines light up.
This was an awesomely designedGodzilla is just clearly
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been designed and animatedusing techniques that were not available in 1954.
And that's going to cause some whiplashif you watch this version of the movie.
Yes, yes, yes. Other than that though,
it was really well done.And I'm sitting there,
it's like 1230, I have a panel inthe morning. I should not be up.
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I should not be in.
I'm just sitting there on the bed fightingback tears by the end of this movie
because it's just grabbedme emotionally again.
And I knew what was going tohappen and I knew, did you.
See the thing on the neck this time?
I did. Yes, I did.
And it is sort of ablank and you'll miss it,
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but it is clearly there on purpose.
I don't know what that means. I dunno.
I chose to ignore it in the momentbecause the ending works much better
that way, I think. But I did see it.You're right. And that is a real clever,
and the camera does kind oflinger on it for a bit. So.
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I noticed it on the rewatch because Iwas kind of debating with myself, okay,
does this ending work? Does thisending not work? Is this a compound?
What the hell is that?What the hell is that?
Yep, yep, yep. But
I think it's a good example of a movie.
It would've had an emotional impacton me a couple of years ago, but now,
especially with Roz,
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because there's a littlegirl in the movie that just,
it's a shorter route to gutpunch for a lot of movies.
And this one's up there.
So I don't know if you're a film
guy or a film person and you justreally into the black and white
style, absolutely watch it.If you're a casual viewer,
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are you going to like itmore than the color? I dunno.
But the AV Club has anarticle about a lot of
movies that did this, and it'sa lot more than I thought,
and it is sort of usually anart house or a maybe not vanity
project,
but definitely a really passionatecreation for a relatively
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small audience.
Dude at the studio thought itwould be neat and made it happen.
Yeah.
The one that I hadn't thought about thatI want to see now is there's a black
and white version of Mad Max Fury Road
I didn't realize existed,
and I could see that workingreally well in black and white too.
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And again, is it Vanityproject? Yes. Is it cool also?
Yes.
That one's a little bit of a hardersell for me just because Godzilla. Yeah,
I think black and white,
because Godzilla has a history thatstarts in the black and white film era,
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fury Road.
There's some connections therethat my brain's not making.
Yeah, I mean, that's fair. That's fair.Let's see, what else was on the list?
Raiders of the Lost Arc?
Steven Soderberg did a blackand white version that I could.
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See,
that I can see based onthe old Pulp Action Hero
movies of the past,
so that I can see.
Let's see, Logan,
the Wolverine movie thatwas kind of a neo western
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Logan Noir. I could maybe see that.
If it weren't tied into X-Men.
Yeah.
That's the only, yeah, no,
the general tone of the movie.
If you can divorce yourself from thefact that it's Wolverine, then yeah,
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it's totally a black and white noir movie,
but it is impossible to divorce yourbrain from the fact that it's Wolverine
because he's.
Wolverine. Yes. Nightmare Alley,
which was said back in the thirties,I think. So that makes sense too.
I wanted to see that one.
I just haven't gotten to ityet for literally no reason.
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So maybe a mixed bag, butI think it's a cool option,
and odds are if you're listeningto a niche horror podcast,
you're probably the niche kind of moviefan that would at least be interested in
some of them. So
yeah, you want to tell me about serialkillers from the eighties on Tubi?
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Oh my God, I'm getting chills justhearing that out loud. I'm getting chills.
Alright, so
I did angst from 1983. It's from Austria,
and I picked this movie the way that Ioften pick movies when I don't have the
specific one in mind.
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I type foreign horror movie into Google,
and I sort through the AI generatedlist that it provides me until I
get to one that we haven'tdone for the podcast yet.
And that's actually foreign availablefrom streaming and is in fact a real movie
because sometimes AI generatedare going to lead you a stray.
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And this week it gave me something that's
kind of out of my wheelhouse, but I'mgoing to do my best to do it justice.
The IDB summary,
A troubled ma'am with an unsettlingresemblance to Conan O'Brien gets released
from prison and starts taking out hissadistic fantasies on unsuspecting family
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living in a secluded house.I added the part about Conan.
No, but I could see it. Ipulled up the IMDB myself and.
He looks like ConanO'Brien in a Tommy wig.
Yeah, he kind of does. Yeah,maybe a little younger, but yeah, I could. Oh, yep.
There's no escaping that. Yep.
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So this movie is loosely basedon the Real Life Murderer
Warner Music. I probably didn't pronouncethis right, but this guy's a scumbag,
so I don't care
who tortured and killed a family ofthree shortly after being released from
prison on parole.
And this was a gruesome case with severerepercussions for the Austrian criminal
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justice system that I can'treally go into too much detail
because this movie followed that story
closely enough that doing so wouldjust spoil the crap out of the movie.
But if you want, you'rea big true crime guy,
or if you don't feel like sleepingtonight, feel free to look the guy up.
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And because of him,
Austrian prisons are a lot more selectiveabout which criminals they let out on
parole and they dopsychiatric evaluations now,
and that's a whole thing.
When was the crime? Was this a recent,
so the movie was 83?
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Yeah, I probably shouldhave put that in my notes.
I want to say mid seventies.
Okay, so not.
Immediate, not super recent, but yeah,
not like a rip from the headlights. Close.
Enough.
This movie was also a band in mostof Europe for being too violent
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and nice was actually not distributedin the United States in any
capacity. No DVDs, no streaminguntil a couple years ago.
And now it's on to me.
Now it's on Tub Me.
God, I love you. Tubi never changed.
That said, our standards here atImported Horror, it's pretty tight,
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but
the fact that it was censored at all isjust interesting to me and I thought it
was worth mentioning.
Yeah.
Well it was.
Probably on the.
Yeah.
I was going to say it wasprobably on the video nasty list.
Oh, almost certainly.
And that's always a fun list to look over.
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I just said that I wasn't goingto go too into the guy's real life
history because it would spoil the movie.
There is one thing about this moviethat I am absolutely going to spoil
because I know that the mystery ofit would maybe negatively impact some
people's enjoyment of it.
I am going to spoil the fateof the family's wiener dog.
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Who has a line in thecredits. Actually, Cuba.
Yes.
Was the dog's real name?
Yes. Now,
given the tone and howmessed up the villain is,
it's going to seem incredibly likelythat the dog will die in a gruesome
fashion. The dog does not.
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The dog survives the moviemostly because it is hilariously
indifferent to the plight of this family.
For example, I.
Shouldn't be laughing, but that's great.
When the killer, and I'm not beingvague with Garita or anything,
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no one in this movie has names.
When the killer is going afterthe elderly woman of the family,
the dog cares way more about eatingthe elderly woman's dentures,
which is presumably a treat thatthe dog has been often denied.
They're making any effort toprotect his owner whatsoever.
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The dog actually decides at some pointthrough doggy logic that the killer is
his new best friend and just happilyfollows him around the house and gets in a
car with him.
The killer feeds him a sausage.
Which I mean, maybe that's some deep
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emotional metaphoric takeon crime and punishment,
or maybe it's just the dog was having ablast and the actor and the dog really
got along. It could literally beanything with this kind of movie,
because to me.
And on a second watch when Iwasn't worried about, oh God,
what is he going to do to that poor dog?That part was really funny to watch.
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Well, sadly, this wasCuba's only appearance,
his only IMDB credit,
and there are no photos of Cuba on imdb.
So I think we need justice for Cuba.
He is a wiener dog. Picturea wiener dog. You've got.
Uba.
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The cinematography in thismovie was really cool.
It was mostly a bunch of reallyweird angles and long tracking
shots. A lot of them werekind of focused on the killer.
If this weren't made in the eighties,I'd swear he had a GoPro attached to him.
And just kind of focusing on
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his face as he just gets more and moreunhinged as he's wondering the house. And
there's also almost nodialogue between the
characters. And
pretty much all of the expedition thatwe get in the movie is the American
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psycho esque narration fromthe killer's perspective.
And Z goes into his backstory and whyhe is doing all this stuff and what he's
planning to do next. And
being brutally honest,
I kind of feel like the moviecould have done without it.
Yeah.
Part of it is because,
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and it also ties into whyI had to watch it twice.
This movie is only available in subtitles.
And when the narration is only
tangentially related to what'sactually happening on screen,
that's a problem.
If you don't understand the languagethat's being spoken and have to read it
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underneath on the bottom of the screen
and rewatching it,
and not paying attention to the subtitleswhatsoever made me realize, Hey,
none of that needed to be in this movie.It was all kind of cliched anyway.
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Well, there was in a violent nature,
I think just hit Shutteris about to hit shutter,
but the camera's just following acreepy serial killer. And there's no,
to my knowledge, there's no reasoning,there's no logic, there's no exposition.
It's just murder. Murder,gruesome murder, gruesome murder,
maybe sort of a similar vibe.
(44:14):
And yeah, that's what thismovie should have been too. Two,
really nothing was added by the running
commentary of, wow, mystepdad was mean to me,
and now I like to scare peoplebefore I kill them. Wow.
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The movie didn't need that.
Yeah, I could see that.
And the soundtrack was good.
It was aggressively eighties horror.
Nice.
Heavy on the synths.
Nice.
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And the family that The killer targets
are super weird and probablydeserved to be in their own
movie in sort of a Austrian Texaschainsaw massacre kind of vibe.
Okay.
Because they live in thisbig empty house that kind
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of looks run down. And theDoist reason for it is obvious.
This was a small, independent film.
This is probably the onlylocation they could get,
but the Watsonian reason for why theylive this is just completely open to
interpretation.
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And the family consistsof the elderly woman,
her adult daughter,
and her mentally challenged adult son.
And the mentally challengedadult son kind of feels like
a Michael Palin playinga character in Amani
Python skit, which is super distracting.
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But minor spoilers,
he is not in the movie long enoughfor that to matter too much.
And the other thing that jumps out atme is that the serial killer is super
incompetent,
but they actually managed to playthis for scariness and not for laughs
because the fact that he's so bad at whathe is doing means all of the terrible
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stuff he's doing to thisfamily just takes longer now.
Yeah, that's a fine line to walk. Yeah.
There's this one scene wherethe young woman escapes and is
running through the house in thedark trying to get away from him.
And on paper,
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it should be funny because of howeasily she escapes from the truly
half-assed way that he had hercaptured. And he doesn't know her name,
so he is just saying, Hey, lady Lady,and trying to call her like a dog.
And he's also moving really weird becauseof other things that have happened to
him throughout the movie,
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but the way it's shot and just theominous buildup actually makes it kind of
scary.
I can see that.
And a big part of that is the actor the
killer. His name is
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Erwin Litter. I'm probablynot pronouncing that right.
He's a prolific German character actor and
unsettling similarityto Conan O'Brien aside,
he is really good at playinga creepy, violent weirdo.
Yeah, I pulled up his, he wasin Das Boot, the original.
(47:57):
Yeah. He's got, I mean, let's see here,
120 titles on imd. Good Lord.
Yeah. If you know German cinema, he'sbasically that guy that's everywhere.
Yeah.
Motion picture, Terra Scale. Iwill give this a solid three.
Just the movie is actuallygood at being creepy at points.
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Quality is a four for such a small budget.
This movie was shot really well.
The cliche backstory and somefilming choices that were kind of
weird for the sake of being weird,
kind of hold it back frombeing a five enjoyment.
I'm going to give it a three.
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This movie was perfectlygood for what it was,
and learning about the reallife stuff was interesting.
But at the end of the day,true crime isn't my jam,
and this movie didn't reallydo much to change my mind.
That's fair. That's fair. I can see that.
I would recommend it to both you,
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because I know some of the trackingshots of cinematography are going to be
right up your alley,
and I'd recommend it to Melissa becauseI know the true crime thing will be up
her alley.
She would've loved to watch this beforeshe suffocated to death. Yes. Very sad.
Yes.
Well, I'll check it out. I'll mentionit to Emily too, if not the movie,
(49:27):
the Guy, because she listensto so much true crime stuff.
I'm sure she's heard of him, sothat'll be interesting. Well,
the other one,
so before I left thePhiladelphia that Saturday night,
I was in kind of a weird mood,
and I didn't want to watch a bad moviebecause I didn't want to be disappointed,
but I also didn't want to get too intoa movie too invested in something.
(49:51):
And that's a real fine line towalk when you're looking for.
Okay.
And it was starting to rain in real life.
And I stumbled across on Tubi,
a movie called Into the Abyss,
(50:13):
and the Spanish title is me Contrera Pro.
Desmo, which translates to you willfind me in the depths of the abyss,
which is just objectively abetter title. 10 out of 10,
no notes. That'sfantastic. So much better.
(50:35):
The IMDB summary, trying to escapedanger in a post-apocalyptic world,
then in realize that his existencewill be put to the test. Okay.
Well, so it's horror withlove, crafty, monster things,
and it's basically somewherebetween 28 days later and
Blade Runner. Okay.
(50:58):
Because most of the movie is this guywandering around through this broken
city at the end of the worldwith big love crafty monsters and
smaller person sized screechy, love,
crafty and monsters chasing him througheverything. Those are almost worse.
Yeah. Oh,
they're definitely scarier. They'redefinitely scarier than the big ones.
(51:18):
And there's not a ton of backstory.There's not a ton of exposition.
There's not even that much dialogue.
There's just a ton of rain and a tonof atmosphere and a ton of vibes.
And it looks like a darker,
maybe more rundown version of the opening
(51:39):
scene from The Matrix,but without the Kung fu,
the cityscape,
imagine it darker traipsing alongthe rooftops and everything else.
Atmospherically, the vibes were10 out of 10. It was raining.
I'm imagining like a dark city sortof situation. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(52:00):
And it's not black and white,
but it feels kind of black andwhite just because it's all
atmosphere. It's pensive,
it's moody. It is all kinds of weird,
and because it's slow and becausethey rarely stop to tell you anything,
(52:22):
it is actually really scary. So it'sa slow burn, but you also feel it.
And the Blade Runner with all the rainand the sci-fi, it just vibe wise,
it totally worked for me. It's vague,
I think purposefully.
So it never really tells youwhat the monsters are or what
(52:46):
happened.
You just get snippetsand it escalates in ways
that might feel kind of strange.
It worked for me partly becausethere's one blink and you miss it
line of dialogue that changesthe entire framework of the movie
and made it actually,
(53:07):
I took it into a place that's reallyconsistent with my worldview and my
background. I don't know if that's justme seeing what I want to see or if,
if that was actuallyintended. I have no idea.
Part of it comes down to a translationquestion, and it's not a translation.
Spanish and English. Thismovie is Argentinian.
It's something more complicated than that.
(53:29):
We would've the same issuewith the same word in English.
So if you're not feelingambiguous and maybe a little
weird, actually not, maybe a lotweird. Definitely a lot weird.
Then this isn't your movie, butespecially if it's raining outside, oh,
(53:50):
that was the perfect,
but it's gloomy vibes. It's atmospheric
weird. And I normally don'tlike post-apocalyptic stuff,
and this one really workedfor me. It is murky,
and there's not even that much dialogue.It almost felt like a video game,
(54:12):
like a survival horrorvideo game, because Bannon,
the guy you're following,finds a walkie-talkie,
and he finds a frequency on the wall.
So he dials into the frequency and hejust starts talking and somebody answers.
And so most of the movie,
he's just talking to thewalkie-talkie and avoiding the
things, the lovecraft and things,the aliens, the whatever they are,
(54:36):
he's avoiding them.
So it feels very video gameybecause that whole setup and
the atmosphere. Yeah,
I gave it a three on Letterboxed,
it probably deserves a three and ahalf just because, yeah, the ending,
(54:58):
either it'll work for you or itwon't, but the vibes are just
scratch that itch. If I need somethingdifferent and I need something,
I don't need to think about toohard, but it's still captivating.
And this just nailed that for me.
So I don't know that I'd pay money for it,
but it's on Tubi and
(55:22):
I feel like a fanboy like Tubi, yay, go.
But that's sort of where I'mat right now. That's Fair.
Tub has a place in our popular culture.
Yeah. And I think you'd likeit for the video game vibes.
(55:45):
I think Melissa might,
I'm curious if eitherof y'all ever watch it,
because I want to know if you catch thatone line of dialogue and you take the
same thing from it, or if youcatch something else or if it,
yeah. And not that much has been writtenabout this. That's the other thing.
(56:05):
There are a couple of reviews, but way,
way less than I was expecting. Or
noir sci-fi horror. Yeah.
That's cool. Have check it. So
(56:26):
yeah, probably enjoymentwas probably a five.
The tear scale, maybe a two, maybea three. Quality. Yeah. Three,
maybe three and a half,three in the moment.
But I also tend to be kind ofgenerous and I'm trying to fight that.
So maybe it deserved alittle more than that.
(56:48):
So do we want to spin the wheel ordo we want to give it another break?
I actually have no ideawhat I'm doing next time.
So why don't we spin the wheel.
Got to find the wheel. Where'd you go?Wheel, you're on my phone somewhere.
There you are.
(57:28):
Onibaba from 1964 maybe.
Yeah, this looks like somethingthat I would pick. Okay. Okay.
This is definitely, oh,it's on Max. Delightful.
So this is 1964.
(57:49):
It's from Japan.
You can tell that just from lookingat the poster. Yep. Yep. Oh yeah. No,
this does look cool. I thinkI remember reading about this.
Two women kill Samurai and sell theirbelongings for a living while one
of them is having anaffair with their neighbor.
The other woman meets a mysterioussamurai wearing a bizarre mask.
(58:12):
I think this is an oldschool folk, folk horror.
And I think I read about it in anarticle or an anthology collection of
Fulco. Yeah.
But this looks cool. Okay, sweet.
I'll absolutely do thatnext week. Nice. Thank you,
(58:35):
will we very much appreciate it. Well,
if you're still listening, followus on Threads and Letterboxed.
Give us a shout out over emailor your social media of choice.
Tell your friends about it, tell yourfamily, tell anybody into horror. Hey,
these guys are cool, and have a podcast.
(58:55):
You should listen and sendcondolences to Melissa
for her tragic demiseat the hands of her cat.
Yeah. Hopefully she won't beback from the dead next week.
Maybe it'll be like a Buffy theVampire Slayer season seven.
And we'll have the seanceand she'll claw through the
(59:20):
grave and she'll be all pissybecause we pulled her out of heaven.
And it'll be like a little,maybe it was season six.
I don't know. After Buffy wasgood. I think that's reasonable.
Anyway, we'll talk to y'all next week.
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