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May 8, 2025 43 mins

Unpack how climate change is reshaping not just ecosystems but our emotional landscapes. This episode connects the rising trauma of a changing climate to the challenges faced by seafood systems in the Great Lakes and around the world. Through systems thinking and trauma-informed design, we examine how climate disruptions ripple through fisheries, communities, and the human psyche, as well as how new approaches can help us respond with care, clarity, and resilience.

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Episode Guide

  • 00:00 Intro to In Hot Water, Great Lakes Edition
  • 02:40 Cheryl Dahle, design strategist for systems change, returns in this episode to  explain how a systems design approach is a relatively new way to problem solve through an examination of human behavior 
  • 06:21 Cheryl started her career as a journalist and, disillusioned, left to found a nonprofit, Future of Fish, working empower thriving, resilient ocean communities by driving innovation and investment to small-scale fisheries
  • 15:45 Systems change in the seafood sector - how does it happen?
  • 18:32 Having returned to journalism, Cheryl focuses on how the media covers climate change with the Solutions Journalism Network
  • 29:10 In 2021, the International Society of Traumatic Stress Studies, Global Climate Change and Trauma released a detailed briefing paper describing the current state of knowledge and gaps on climate change and trauma. We asked Mary Foydor, a transdisciplinary designer about trauma-informed co-design, to tell us more about the links between climate change and trauma
  • 30:13 The definition of trauma
  • 31:11 Guiding principles to a trauma-informed approach to designing solutions
  • 36:54 Climate change is a trauma that we're experiencing collectively
  • 38:47 Joy-washing and the decolonization of trauma and trauma-informed design and care
  • 41:14 Final words: Our future is uncertain, but open with possibilities. If we can hold open that space of uncertainty and invent into it, we have a really good chance.

 Resources

    1. Recommend this series to anyone who enjoys seafood and is curious about how climate change is affecting our seafood-producing regions.

 

 

 

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