Into the Backing

April Vokey hosts this roundtable forum, which takes a closer look at the outdoor’s most controversial topics. Follow along to hear the viewpoints, science and personal opinions from leading experts in their field. An Anchored Outdoors production.

Episodes

Into the Backing Ep. 13: Pinniped Predation on Salmon and Steelhead Stocks

March 4, 2025 • 99 mins

In this episode, I sit down with Spencer Greening, Nate Pamplin, and Dave Hansen to dive into the complex issue of pinniped predation and its impact on fisheries. Dr. Spencer Greening, an Indigenous scholar and ecologist, brings cultural and ecological insights into the balance between marine life and traditional fisheries. Nate, a fisheries and wildlife policy expert, sheds light on management strategies and conservation challenge...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into the Backing Ep. 12: Are Rod and Line Ratings Misleading?

February 10, 2025 • 62 mins

A listener named Ben recently sent in a great question about one of the most debated topics in fly fishing: line weights. He shared his own experience of buying a high-end 5-weight rod, only to find out a year later that it performed best with a heavier line—essentially making it a 6-weight setup. His frustration? The industry’s blurred definitions and the confusion it causes for anglers trying to match rods and lines correctly. T...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into the Backing Ep. 11: To Single or Double Hand Cast, That is the Question

November 14, 2024 • 66 mins

In this episode of Into the Backing, we discuss the advantages of both the single and double handed rod. From swinging flies for steelhead to using them for something as niche as fly fishing for musky, we cover it all in this month’s session. Join me to sit down with author and former sales rep Jerry Darkes, guide and instructor Jeff Liskay, and BackPacker’s Fly Shop manager Jake Wright for a friendly jousting on why one method may...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into the Backing Ep. 10: The Native Fish/Introduced Fish Controversy

October 14, 2024 • 99 mins

In this episode of Into the Backing, we tackle a complex and polarizing issue: native fish vs. introduced fish. That phrase has always sounded odd to me, so I figured there must be more to the controversy. As it turns out, much of the online debate stems from miscommunication and assumptions about region-specific fisheries that are close to our hearts. Sometimes, though, it’s a clash of science, philosophy, and policy. I sit down w...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into the Backing Ep. 9: Is Euro Nymphing Really Fly Fishing?

September 15, 2024 • 59 mins

Today, we're kicking off season two with a relatively light-hearted conversation about Euro Nymphing and its perception in the fly fishing industry. A hot topic around the fly-tying counter, Euro Nymphing is viewed by some as the most effective form of fly fishing, while others argue it’s not fly fishing at all. I thought it would be interesting to invite some of fly fishing's strongest personalities for a friendly discussion on wh...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into the Backing Ep. 8: Fly Fishing Influencers in the Wild

June 20, 2021 • 80 mins

It can be a tricky task trying to balance fly fishing and ethical marketing. And while it’s nothing new, the conversation has never been quite as polarising as it is when it involves influencers. Right, wrong, or otherwise, there’s a stigma around this new-age marketing tactic that pops up in comment sections and tackle shops around the world. In this episode of Into the Backing, I sit down with Kirk Deeter, Tom Larimer and Bridget...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into the Backing Ep. 7: Washington’s Ban on Steelhead Fishing From a Boat

February 2, 2021 • 119 mins

A recent change in government regulations has made fishing for steelhead from a boat illegal in Washington State. The change is the result of poor steelhead returns and an attempt to find a compromise between the guides, anglers and fish. A substantial amount of guides and anglers are upset about the new law and how it was implemented, so I asked longtime salmon and steelhead guide and spokesperson, Bob Kratzer to sit down with ste...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into The Backing Ep. 6: Should We Fish to Fish on Redds?

December 13, 2020 • 97 mins

It’s hard to ignore the contention that follows any conversation about fishing on redds. In this episode of Into the Backing, I sit down with Dr. Andy Danylchuk, photographer Adam Barker, and Howard Horton from Colorado Parks and Wildlife to see if we could get to the bottom of why it’s frowned upon. We discuss the science behind fishing on redds, why it isn’t illegal in many parts of North America, and why the topic is such a hot ...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into the Backing Ep. 5: Do Hunting Grip and Grin Photos Do More Harm Than Good?

November 4, 2020 • 106 mins

As a relatively new hunter, I was curious to learn more about the grip and grin debate that I often see surface on social media. In this episode of Into the Backing, I sit down with experienced hunters Britt Longoria, Tyler Freel and Mark Hall to hear their thoughts. We discuss how and why our photos matter, if the hunting industry is unnecessarily inflammatory, and if something as simple as a social media post can shift regulation...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into The Backing Ep. 4: Are Hatchery Fish Really That Bad?

July 8, 2020 • 92 mins

This month’s episode has been brewing since the conception of the Anchored podcast in 2014. Over the last six years, we’ve discussed various concerns about the impact of hatchery fish in wild systems. Every time such an episode airs, it stimulates debate between "pro-hatchery" and "anti-hatchery" anglers. So, for years I've been asking hatchery advocates to give me the name of someone they wanted to hear from. The name they gave me...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into The Backing Ep. 3: Is Catch and Release Fishing Selfish?

May 28, 2020 • 62 mins

My guests today include big game specialist and Sportfishing captain Vic Levett, Australian fishing guide Justin Duggan, and steelhead guide and photographer Adrienne Comeau, who also happens to be a life-long vegetarian. In this episode of Into the Backing we tackle the argument of whether catch and release fly fishing is truly beneficial to fish, or if it’s unnecessary torture for our own fun. Outline of this Episode: [4:35] Is...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into the Backing Ep. 2: Can Fishing Be Too Easy?

April 11, 2020 • 49 mins

Today our round table guests include Master caster Peter Morse, professional photographer and avid angler David Anderson, and guide and entrepreneur Josh Hutchins. On this episode, we explore whether there is such a thing as too easy when it comes to fishing. We also consider the definition of fly fishing and discuss our opinions on whether fishing is a sport. Join us for this stimulating conversation between friends and fishing ex...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Into The Backing Ep. 1: A Roundtable Forum Discussing Hot Topics in the Outdoors

April 4, 2020 • 1 min

We’ve got all sorts of discussion coming your way in this monthly series. Between pro-hatchery and anti-hatchery biologists, social media influencers and old-school industry types, catch and release anglers and meat hunters… We’re putting some hot topics on the table for you to form your own opinions. Be sure to subscribe here so you don’t miss out on episode one, where we keep it light with a friendly debate about if there’s such ...

Listen

Watch

Mark as Played

Popular Podcasts

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

Bleep! with Ana Navarro

Fear thrives in silence and confusion. Ana Navarro rejects both. Her voice is an antidote to today’s chaos. Her new podcast, Bleep! with Ana Navarro, takes on today’s most pressing issues with the voices most connected to it: decision-makers, political leaders, cultural shapers, and people on the frontlines of the story. The conversations acknowledge the emotions we all feel—despair, sadness, fear— but emerge with knowledge, perspective, and hope. The belief is simple: fearless dialogue can transform fear into courage, and courage into change. When fear dominates the headlines, this show digs deeper. Because information, debate, and conversation don’t just ease fear, they give us power to shape the future.

Hey Jonas!

Hey Jonas! The official Jonas Brothers podcast. Hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas. It’s the Jonas Brothers you know... musicians, actors, and well, yes, brothers. Now, they’re sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.

Thanks Dad with Ego Nwodim

Thanks Dad with Ego Nwodim is back! And this time, she's sitting down with not just dads, but anyone with a dad...so everyone! Raised by a single mom, Ego Nwodim may have daddy issues, but she suspects you might too. This season, Ego has funny, heartfelt conversations with actors, comedians, musicians and athletes about life and their experiences with their own fathers. Each episode starts with a simple question: “who do you want to say thanks to?” and ends with a listener asking Ego and the guest for some personal advice. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends

A weekly podcast where host, Robert Smigel, and a rotating panel, his friends, assist callers seeking help in making something in their real life funnier. Anything. A best man speech, a eulogy, a breakup letter, a cover letter, an apology, a Tinder profile - Robert, with a panel of professional comedy writers and comedians, will punch it up and get results. Want help with your writing assignment? Submit it to: speakpipe.com/humorme

Advertise With Us

Into the Backing

Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Into the Backing Ep. 13: Pinniped Predation on Salmon and Steelhead Stocks

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}Into the Backing Ep. 12: Are Rod and Line Ratings Misleading?

Into the Backing Ep. 11: To Single or Double Hand Cast, That is the Question

Into the Backing Ep. 10: The Native Fish/Introduced Fish Controversy

Into the Backing Ep. 9: Is Euro Nymphing Really Fly Fishing?

Into the Backing Ep. 8: Fly Fishing Influencers in the Wild

Into the Backing Ep. 7: Washington’s Ban on Steelhead Fishing From a Boat

Into The Backing Ep. 6: Should We Fish to Fish on Redds?

Into the Backing Ep. 5: Do Hunting Grip and Grin Photos Do More Harm Than Good?

Into The Backing Ep. 4: Are Hatchery Fish Really That Bad?

Into The Backing Ep. 3: Is Catch and Release Fishing Selfish?

Into the Backing Ep. 2: Can Fishing Be Too Easy?

Into The Backing Ep. 1: A Roundtable Forum Discussing Hot Topics in the Outdoors

Popular Podcasts

Into the Backing Ep. 13: Pinniped Predation on Salmon and Steelhead Stocks

Into the Backing Ep. 12: Are Rod and Line Ratings Misleading?