Disneys Biggest Gimmick | Disney Vault | Ep. 78

With no Alex, Chris has to bring the history for The Disney Vault. A rare two-person pod, do they stay on topic more with or without editor Alex keeping an eye on them?

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Episode Transcript

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Initiating launch sequence Multiverse Reactor is stable
launching in 321. Flight course set for the Disney

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Vault. Before Disney Plus, there was a
time where if you missed out, you were simply out of luck.
For generations, the only way tosee Snow White or Bambi was to
beg your parents to drive you tothe theater or to race to the
store before they lock the doors.
We're talking about the terrifying and unbelievably
successful Disney Vault, and Alex is where you'll play the

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intro music. Alex cut that.
Welcome back to Into the Welcomeback to Into the Disney Verse
live from the Disney Verse Starship.
This is episode 78, the show where we dive into the world of
Disney's past, present and future.
I'm your host this week, Chris, and I'm joined with my fellow

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variant, Ryan. Ryan, where's Alex been, man?
Are we live? We are live for right now, our
Patreon members. Yeah, but other people listening
later, we're not live. In the past, you're correct.
It's in the past, we're all live, hopefully.
And if you want to watch this live on a weekly basis, you can

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join our Patreon, Go over to disneyverse.com.
A Discord link will pop up if you click out of that.
You can join a Discord for free of course, but if you click out
of that Scroll down you'll see become a variant which is our
Patreon members. And for as little as $2.00 a
month you can watch the show live every single week.
And Ryan what? How will they know if they like

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to watch the show live or not? Do we ever go live for just the
general public? Once a month on YouTube.
Which is next week actually, right?
Which I don't know. Oh no, I.
Got a gander right now I'm. Going to take the night off.
Yeah, it is the first. It's the first week of every
month. You could watch us live on
YouTube. You can watch the replays of us
live on YouTube too, if you don't want to, just you can't

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make it. They're always there on demand,
but it's really fun to watch theshows live and.
Hey man, discord's been popping off here lately.
It has, it has, and that's absolutely free.
You can join our Discord for free.
There are paid channels that youcan get into for being a Patreon
member, like general Patreon andlive show bands or you can't see

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until you pay. We also have hidden Mickeys,
Disney News media. There's a lot of stuff that's
hidden until you pay. We hide a lot of things.
Yeah, you can talk and do triviawith us for free and.
That's what's been going off here.
Lately you have revamped the trivia.
You went, you went. Yeah, yeah.
If you get the answer right, then you have to ask the
question. Yeah, yeah.

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A lot of fun. It's like a it's like a 24 hour.
It's like Wordle, but every 45 minutes.
Yeah, it keeps on going off. Yeah, yeah, a lot of fun.
We have a lot. We've we've, we've accumulated a
lot of great people have a great. 100-A120112113 something
like that. And we have new Gerald Garman
bot. Which you?
Oh. Yeah, so 111 we're.

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Going to have to join to find out what that is.
But anyway, before we get into the topic, Ryan, what did you do
this week in Disney? I did so much so I just watched
a video on I guess we're going to have a roaming robot.
Of Olaf I literally 1/2 hour agoI just saw the same thing, yeah.
And I'm watching this video and I'm thinking it must suck to be

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a robot right now because every time they show a robot they try
to push it over. Yeah, that is true and.
This is going to start the uprising.
This is T2. T1 If if you're listening to
this podcast, you're not familiar with hitchbot.
I'm from the greater Philadelphia region, so that's
why I know about them. Google Hitchbot.
It was this college, These college students made a robot

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named Hitchbot and it was supposed to hitchhike across the
country. When it got to Philly, people in
Philly jumped it and destroyed it and killed Hitch Bot.
And there's pictures of him justdead on the side of the road.
That's what's going to happen toOlaf.
You know, yeah, could be attacked.
Besides watching that. So I was our friends over at

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Signs of Amusement, they did a live show where they were doing
trivia. So I was like, hey, I'll check
that out there on YouTube. Check them out and on there.
That was a lot of fun. I highly recommend following
them. I won.
I've won a prize. I won a like a plushie of the
Star Death Star. Oh.
Apparently like makes noises andstuff or something nice

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probably. I love it and I won that.
But Speaking of signs of of amusement, I won this when I was
watching the podcast party with our friends over at Bring Back
the Magic. And this is just like, come on
camera. Come on, camera.
You might have to turn your virtual background off.
Oh. OK, prepare to see a mess of

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your room. And that's why you mind.
Blur it. No, none.
OK, don't mind the mess behind me.
I have the same Kermit, Swish, Malabar.
It is a giant copy of the opening day placard for

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Disneyland. Ryan, for people listening at
home, I was made of. Wood real laser cut.
Wow. Yeah, like I am blown away by by
that. Was a giveaway.
It was a giveaway. It was free.
I got it for free that. Is absolutely where if someone's
interested in that, well, first of all, you did send pictures of

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that in our discords if. You're Yeah, I sent it in
Discord. I'll share it on Instagram as
well. Yeah, signs of amusement
Instagram, check them out or on YouTube.
It's it's unbelievable like I was.
I did not expect it to be anywhere near the quality that
was showing up. Whatever they charge for that,
it's not enough. That's all.
That's all I have to say. I was thoroughly impressed with

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that, that is. Wild.
And I cannot wait to well, I, I can't hang up here because we're
at the apartment, but when I getmy when we get our house, that
is definitely going up on the wall.
Hey, not a few command strips can't fix.
That's I don't know, it pulled off the paint.
We tried it. It pulled off the paint.
I got AI got a picture over top of a a painted ripped off hole

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in the wall that's. That's fair, That's fair.
That's pretty much it for me, what you do.
What did I do this week in Disney?
I've just been listening to a lot of Disney Disney music with
Ellie. What I'm trying to think, if
anything, just specifically Disney, besides listening to the
nightmare before Christmas just on repeat.

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She, she's, she's beginning to just answer like, what do you
want to listen to? It's, it's always Jack.
You know what? I I've been window shopping for
Christmas decorations, specifically Nightmare Before
Christmas Christmas decorations.It's it's so good that you can
get basically both holidays. Knocked down.
You know what? I keep driving by down this
route. For me, that 14 foot tall Jack

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skeleton, I was like, you know what seems like a pretty good
investment and you don't have totake it down.
You can stay up year round. I saw a $15 Santa suit that you
can buy people sell on like Etsyfor.
Oh, that's awesome and. I don't know how I'm going to
reach that high but. I think they need ladders.
For me. For, I mean, OK, you might have
to call the fire department to get you up there.

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So, yeah, I, I didn't do too much in Disney in, in that
regard other than it, it just, it's Nightmare before Christmas,
you know, 24/7 at the house or whenever her wake windows are
it's, it's always nightmare for Christmas.
What do you want to listen to? It's either Cookie or Jack.
And I also, I, I tried to do that.
I, I, I, if anybody's listening to this and, and has any tips?

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I tried to find a website that with the I'm trying to get the
This is Halloween instrumental and then I want to put the the
vocals for C is for Cookie over top of it so she can hear
playing at the same. Time that'd be.
Great. And I cannot line up the beats
per minute, right? So if anybody has any, everybody
has any tips or tricks, Yeah. That's one down speed one.
Up horrible so if anybody has any tips or tricks let me know.

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If you know a DJ that will work for free let me know.
That's that's all I did this weekend dude.
That's not that's not all you did.
But no, it's not all I did. I actually, I've been going live
on our TikTok over at over a Disney verse on TikTok just at
Disney verse. I'm not gonna lie, that last one
you did. I don't think I've laughed that
hard in like 3 years. I was wheezing wheezing.

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So hard want to know what Ryan'stalking about I did upload those
to our YouTube channel. So if you go over to our YouTube
channel Disney verse, I did these these live battles.
It just partners you up with someone random and it was just
these very nice Pakistani man that who didn't.
Talk back. No, the one didn't.

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The one we were staying at, cricket players back and forth,
the guy who didn't talk back. I didn't.
My I was method acting as a someone who lost their uncle to
wizardry. That was amazing.
Yeah, and I threatened the the Pakistani man with a lightsaber.
So if you're if you're wonderingif you're wondering what this
looked like, head over to our YouTube channel.

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It was a good old Kadeem and Jakar.
Yeah, also you did stuff for Patreon.
I did every so if you join our Patreon, I'm trying to add more
value to Patreon every every Friday.
We have the next three or four Fridays already prerecorded and
uploaded to Patreon so they'll release every Friday.
Every Friday I am doing a 5 minute mini history.

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The one that just released was the history of the Hand witch,
which is a really which is a really fun history.
It's all Disney related. Next week's is the history of
the Cake Castle, I believe. Maddie, I love that.
We do. I do history on something I've
never heard of before. It was the Dick Tracy in the
parks. Yeah, the show.

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No, no, it was, it was like a, it was like a flash mob.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Roaming characters at one point.
Roman characters and like shootouts and like no one was no
yeah and back. When you could carry a gun in
the parks. Yeah, apparently the cake castle
history is really fun because I read actual complaints from
people that like booked weddingsand stuff like that.

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That's great, you know, and theydidn't know that.
The Cake Castle. That's great.
So that's a good and they're all5 minutes or less.
So it doesn't take up a lot of your day, but it, it, you know,
if you want to start your day with some fun obscure Disney
history, you can, if you join our Patreon for as little as
$2.00 a month, it's for any paidmember you can, you can get
these 5 minute crash course obscure Disney history.

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We don't have a name for it yet ever Already prerecorded 4
episodes and through 4 episodes at least we won't have a name
for it. But they are, they are a lot of
fun. I'm having a lot of fun just
doing research on them, to be honest with you.
But yeah, join our Patreon to get to get those.
Yeah, I could have got a couple of new things we might be doing
in Patreon, so. Yeah, absolutely.
We have a lot. We we actually just put out a
survey for our Discord and abouthow we can improve the show,

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what they like, what they want to hear more of less of and
again, if there's. One less of you.
Yeah, I know. So I this will be my last.
This will be my last episode. I do still have those three more
prerecorded mini histories, but the.
My last number. Of yeah so you know Alex and
Ryan I'm sure will carry the torch but so yeah if you join

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our discord, I mean you have direct influence on our show.
We want we want to put out content that you want to hear We
don't do this for us. We do this for you and we kind
of do it for us. We do it for half and.
Half. It's fun, I'm not going to say.
It's not fun. Yeah, we'll say it's half and
half. No, but seriously, we don't want
to put out something no one wants to hear.
We don't do this for us. We do this.
For no, that'd be boring. But anyway, so we're doing a lot

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of that. The TikTok lives are going to be
something that I want to do consistently.
It's going to be mostly revolving around Disney.
Like I do trivia. We do a lot of trivia on, on, on
there. It's a lot of fun.
I'll just sit there and we'll ask questions.
We're pretty. Trivia friendly.
Yes, we are very, we are very trivia friendly.
There's a lot of things that youcan ask questions about with
Disney there. It is because it's very

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interesting. But you know what?
Another suggestion that we got was involving the audience more.
So on that note, if you are a Patreon member starting this
week, and it might not be every single week because I'm not
going to ask for memories on, I don't know, an Imagineer, right?

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But when it has to do with maybea restaurant or an attraction or
a resort or like this week, the Disney Vault, we are going to
our Patreon only channel. So you have to Patreon member.
So for as little as $2.00 a month, you can now be a part of
the show. We have asked our Patreons.
I always say Patreons, Patreons,variants, we call them variants.

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We've asked our variants or our Patreon members some memories on
the Disney bone. We got some really good answers.
But before we get on to that. Well, Speaking of that though.
Oh, go ahead. It was a Patreon pick.
It that that is true too, you actually ran a poll on with our
Patreon members of what they wanted to listen and he gave me.

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Suggestions that I put it on a wheel?
Yep, and that's. Where this one?
And so I want to do that more often if we we.
Will definitely be doing that more often.
I'd love to get again. We want to put out content that
that our listeners want to hear.What better way to do that?
Than listeners. Than by paying us to to pick a
topic. Yeah, it's paying us to tell us
what you want. Or lobbyists.

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Just basically the US government.
It's that easy. But anyway, to move forward with
this podcast, I felt as though we needed to go back to the past
a little bit. Ryan, I went into the Disney's
vault. Oh no, you didn't pull out that
song. Did you?
It was so deep within the Disneyverse.

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I went into the Disney's vault and I found and remixed No bro,
two hour 2 hour Disney verse memories I thought.
I welded that vault closed. I I am.
I'm a man of many skills. Actually, I have a few skills,

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but what is actually breaking welds, apparently.
Without any without any further ado, I would love to play for
everybody. Oh, Trent's gonna love this.
Disney verse memories. Here we go, guys.

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Disney verse memories. I'm telling them to you Disney
verse memories. We're telling them to you.
Disney verse memories. We're telling them to you.

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We tell them to Alex. You who?
That's right. You who?
Fool to me, You who? Fool.
Oh my God, I didn't know you hadMichael Jackson doing voice

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lines. Yeah, you know what?
We actually found quite a lump sum of money in the vault and.
Oh my God. Jackson impersonator to finish
out. That was fantastic.
This is Disney verse memory. So for those of you who did not
listen to the Disney's podcast, there was a memory segment and

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Alex would sing different songs introing is his memories yeah.
At first I just cut out Dizz hisand I put Disney verse and I was
like, you know, no, let me let me let me remix this a little
more so I got a little carried away on that.
But that was one of his claims to fame on Dizz His was the dizz
his memories to goodbye horses. It's a parody of Goodbye Horses

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if. You do remember back then, like
if you were a listener back then, reach out to us on on
Instagram. Please do because I want to.
I want to hear about. You know.
Listening that long? And Chad, Speaking of someone
who's been listening that long more that I forgot about this,
but once it started, I immediately remembered and you

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don't. Maybe we'll have different ones
every week, but this is going tobe.
This. One's this one's my favorite for
sure and we do have a not safe for work version.
I think it's uploaded A Patreon that I get a spoof of with me
and Alex because he called you guys.
Were doing last night. No, not at all.
Alex has no idea that I just played that everyone just heard

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that for the first time the 1st.Time while he's.
Editing. When he's editing, he has no
idea. So.
Oh, that's hilarious. Anyway, that that that is the
segue to our new Patreon memories.
So I'm going to, I'm going to start us off with with you,
Ryan, take take us away with, OK.
So yeah, Patreon memory. So if you're a Patreon member,
you can share memories with us and we'll read them.

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So that's that's pretty fun, huh?
So Jackie, our friend Jackie, she hasn't been on on an episode
a long time but she's been on a couple episodes.
She said. Not vault specific, but when I
was a kid I remember my little sister stuffing APB and J into
the VCR and ruined Beauty and the Beast.
I just remember being so devastated because there was no

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way to get another copy. So is that true?
Is it vault specific? No, but her sister vaulted their
VHS player. Yeah, it's.
Similar tactic. What did it play with the PB and
J in it? Yeah, please write us back on
that. So our friends over a wonderful
thing about Disney Pod more specifically, Jake said.

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Growing up, I feel like my mom'slove language to me and my
brother was Disney VHS movies. I can still hear the distinct
sound of cracking open the case and the smell of plastic.
Oh, I smell too. That's.
So good. Whenever they advertise the
vault opening we run downstairs my parents dental office and in
the middle of her cleaning teethwe tell her the vault is open,
the vault is open, they're releasing and then whatever

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movie it was. I was up visiting them a month
ago and opened a dresser drawer and found that she still saved
the entire collection. Oh my God.
The funniest memory was when Disney started to switch to the
cardboard sleeves instead of theplastic cases.
I don't remember which movie it was but my mom brought home the
new animated movie in the wrong case.
Me and my brother were so confused we just stared at it

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like we were offended and said it has the wrong cover.
So mom took it back to the storeand somehow tracked down a
plastic case cop. Wow.
That might have been the last plastic case movie we ever got.
Yeah, the big puffy plastic ones.
Oh yeah, and and there were likedifferent quality of the
puffiness too as yeah. The real old ones are super
puffy, you can just take a nap on them things.

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I have some sealed ones. I should have done a giveaway
for tonight. I have some sealed.
I gave a lot to Dane over a big beautiful days.
When he was up visiting me I went into my my storage and I
let him just take whatever he wanted.
I had like I had some, I had some still sealed copies of VHS
tapes that I get from the thriftstore.
Really fun thing to do though. You can go to a thrift store and
like anywhere from 5 to $20 depending on the thrift store.

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You can buy Avhs Player and thenyou have these old movies to
play. It's kind of fun.
It's a nostalgic watching them on the the square aspect ratio
instead of that. You know why it's great?
It's definitely different and there's a nostalgic too.
Like a record player, you know, listen to a record.
All right, so Trent good, our good buddy Trent said I get mad
anxiety when watching new DisneyVHS movies because they're

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always have at least one movie that they are releasing from the
vault for a limited time. I do remember specifically when
The Lion King re released with the special edition that.
That I begged my mom and grandparents for it for my
birthday because I legit thoughtit was going to be gone forever
if we didn't get it, even thoughwe had the original release VHS.

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So yeah, that was the vault for you, man.
It definitely was like you need to get it now or you'll never
see it again. And the FOMO we are definitely
going to get into in the history.
It's really interesting how theypull at your heart.
It was genius. Our last member that was
submitted was from Sierra. First of all, shout out the
Sierra and Victor, just amazing supporters of the, I'm not even

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going to say podcast of the community really.
I mean, yeah, 100%. I go live on TikTok.
It tells you who watched for howlong.
And it's like whenever I end thestream, it's like Sierra and
Victor were there for like 98% and that's low.
If they're there for 98%, it's usually. 100% like just our
podcast, like every mouse and all the other, all the other
ones that were like the the Tavern, which I was like this

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week, yeah, just everywhere. Yeah, super supportive and you
don't know how much that means to us, like smaller creators
that just have Someone Like You that just is there consistently.
So really appreciate you guys and here's your memory.
So I don't have any specific memories about the Vault, but I
do remember seeing the commercials.
I kid being utterly inconsolableand distraught because I thought

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that it meant I would never be able to watch them ever again.
Found out as an adult that I have anxiety.
There were signs that was. That's one of my favorite ones.
So if you guys want to hear yourmemories shared on the podcast,
you know, for as little as $2.00a month, join us over on
Patreon. I do want to, I, I, I, I I've
been meaning to check in to see if I can do a free week trial

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for Patreon. I think it's still there.
I think it's still there, right?Yeah.
I would like to reenact that. I'd love you guys to get a taste
of what our Patreon is all about.
It's a lot of fun. But if that's not there as you
are hearing this, check in because it will be there soon.
I will be making that change anyway, before we get into the
actual history of the show, Ryan, do you have any memories
of the Vault or any strong opinions of it?

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I do. And it's just like everybody
said, I remember these coming and I'm I'm, I'm the older type.
I remember these coming out and just feeling like, OK, it's the
last time, it's going to be out,we'll never see it again.
That's it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I remember, oh man, I have to look up his name.
The ads they ran with the the voice over guy, they do that
they that did everything Disney in that timeline.

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And like, I just remember his voice.
Now every year I can't think of his name.
I'm looking up player. What about you?
You have any memories on it? So I, I, you know, I was a
little young watching these likethings.
I, I, but I distinctively remember seeing like it's once
it goes into the vault, it's there forever.
And I didn't really understand that, but it did kind of like
instill some fear into me even as a child.

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I have this vault and I thought there was a physical vault,
which there actually is a physical vault somewhere, but
it's not for every single copy of, you know what I mean?
Or for like original cells and stuff like that.
But yeah, it, it, it's definitely something I remember,
but not something I knew a lot about.
I'm really excited. I did not read through this
history in its entirety yet because I wanted to learn it

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with you guys. And, but what I did do is I
skimmed through because I was, Iwas online with Alex last night
when he was brushing off polishing it, if you will.
And So what I did was I broke this history down into 7
chapters because believe it or not, it, the history is that
long. So.
It's Mark Elliott. Mark Elliott was the voice.

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Mark Elliott. OK, Yeah, if I heard his voice,
I know. We may have to do an episode on
Mark Elliott. Yeah, I love obscure stuff so.
Yeah, it's great. You could do them anyone on it
I. Could, yeah, it'll probably be
better. And also if you're, if you're a,
if you're a Patreon number, you can suggest the obscure
histories. I do have a a list right here of
feral cats at Disneyland is on my list of stuff to do Someone,

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yeah, someone asked me to do that.
So I wrote that one down so you can suggest things that I will
do the history on them anyway. Chapter 1, if you will.
So corporate crisis and the theatrical vault in the 1940s.
So the history of the Disney vault does not begin with VHS
tapes or DVDs. It starts in movie theaters in
the 1940s. Ryan What were movies like in

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the 1940s? Black and white tracing a
nickel. Tracing its roots back to a
crucial corporate emergency where Walt Disney Studios
realize their animated films possess the lasting generational
value unmatched by any other studio in Hollywood, the
foundational principle of the Vault was established in 1944

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with a theatrical re release of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
This action, seven years after the film's initial 1937 debut,
was primarily an act of corporate survival.
The studio was reeling from the economic pressures of World War
2, which had caused crucial overseas box office markets to
collapse and revenue to drop dangerously low.

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Ryan, do you know anything aboutthis time period?
I know you're a big Disney. History box.
Yeah, yeah, Disney struggled right right after during the
war. Yeah, pretty interesting because
like that's. What they started doing, I mean,
the government kind of kept on going with doing propaganda
videos and. Which we talked about.
I don't know if we talked about this podcast, the previous one
about the yeah, about the package films.

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So like that was super interesting.
So the Snow White re release provided a reliable source of
box office cash during this crisis, bringing in millions.
This success established a critical precedent, the seven to
10 year re release cycle. Disney ensured that a new
generation of children reached the prime viewing age for
experience in the film on the big screen, thereby guaranteeing

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fresh box office returns from each successive release for
decades. Films like Bambi, Cinderella,
and Peter Pan would disappear for years and in return as
special cinematic events. So this reminds me a lot of how
Avatar keeps getting re releasedwhenever their record is broken

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so they can re break the record of the highest box office.
Titanic did the same thing. You know, I so it it's really
interesting because we look at this as the consumer point of
view as we just see these moviesbeing re released and we're
like, we see these movies being re released and kind of
annoying, but also kind of exciting.
Like I went back to see Return of the Jedi because I never got

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to see it when it came out in theaters, right?
So yeah, so there's a science behind it.
You're getting people that haven't been able to see the
movie. But then back then, there was no
Netflix. There was no Internet.
I mean, I can't even say Netflix.
Don't even have to say Netflix. There was no Internet to watch
this stuff on. There was no VHS players to
watch this stuff on. You had to see it at the movies.

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That's the good old days. The good old days or play.
I guess that's when Shakespeare was around, right?
In the 1940s I. Don't think that's right.
Maybe a little bit before, I don't know.
We're not. We're not a Shakespeare podcast.
No. So really interesting.
I I just love the science behindthese marketing strategies.
But the the Vault very much began the inspiration for the

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Vault in the 1940s. So Fast forward to the 1980's,
the home video dilemma and the $80 test case.
Before the rise of home video orwidespread television broadcast,
the only way to see a Disney classic was to wait until your
generation's turn arrived. The rise of the home video
market in the late 1970s and early 80s, dominated by VHS,

(27:34):
caused an issue for the theatrical re release method.
So this was I guess the like what I experienced as the
streaming emergence, right? That you're making this stuff
readily available, you know, forme, the Internet.
For a barrel back then. Yeah, really.
You've had to go to theaters to see it, and that was the only
way you were going to see it. Right.

(27:56):
So this now they're like, oh man, we're putting these movies
out on VHS players now. At first, Disney executives were
hesitant, fearing that permanenthome ownership might diminish
the special event feeling of their classics and undermine the
theatrical re release revenue stream.
They initially restricted access, releasing only live
action films and TV compilationson VHS.

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However, as AVCR ownership exploded by the mid 1980s,
Disney realized they were losinga massive revenue stream.
The solution was to adapt the theatrical was to adapt the
theatrical scarcity model to home video.
A classic film would be sold fora limited period, often just a
year or two, and then pulled from circulation.

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The 1940 classic Pinocchio served as the decisive test case
for this new strategy. It was released on home video
for the first time in North America in July of 1985 under
the new Walt Disney Classics label.
Crucially, it was priced as a premium product around $80.00
and it sold 600,000 copies in its initial run.

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This success demonstrated that the quicker, more sustained
revenue from high-priced home video sales was economically
superior to the lengthy weight for theatrical re release
revenues. Right?
What do you think about an $80.80 dollar $80.00 the HS
right? So I I do not know the average

(29:25):
price. If anybody in chat wants to know
wants to look up with the average price in July of 1985 of
the VHS was that would be greatly appreciated because I do
not. Have more than $10?
I would think maybe 2025 right at at tops, I would think in.
The 80s or. 80s, it was the onlyit was the only version of a way
to watch a movie. So I would think, but if

(29:46):
somebody wants to Fact Check that for us that.
Was $80.85. That was a lot of money.
That was like $5,000,000 I thinkit.
Was like, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure inflammation,
inflammation, inflation. Why does that make me like 240

(30:10):
dollars? Yeah, so like this was a
premium, premium product. You are talking about a movie
released 40 years later, right? Because 1940 classic really re
released in 1980. So how is he going to watch it?
Like if you heard of oh wow, I've heard of that movie before.
Right you. Pay No $240 for.
It so the only thing I can thinkabout this is the alien alien

(30:34):
Romulus just came out with AVHS tape.
I need to see for the first time.
I bought that was around 50 sixty $70.00 right when I came
out. I thought that was expensive in
the year 2024 when it released right.
So yeah, 1980s charging this much, but it's kind of like a
flex, right? It's kind of like a it's kind of
like you leave that out on your mantle.

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You leave that Pinocchio VHS. Pinocchio.
They, they, they've brought collectibles to entertainment,
which is again happening. You know, we, a few weeks ago I
talked about the Disney cards that came out right?
Tops has the license. So Gemini says 60 to $90.00 was
the price of Avhs back then. So right on par.

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I mean, think about it when, when these things first come to
market, it's expensive. You know what?
You know what that makes? That might make perfect sense
because that would be the reasonfor Blockbuster and all the
video rental. Places that.
That's a really good point. Because you can't afford them,
you go. Rent them.
You can rent them. Lease your lease your VHS.
So Disney just made their moviesinto a collectible.

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You don't even need to watch themovies.
Buy the VHS because you want to collect it, right?
Because if you ever maybe want to watch it, how are you going
to watch it? You can't the only.
Problem with them is that they did not hold any.
They did not gain value, did nothold value.
But people don't know that back then.
It's like the baby thing, like anything that they.
Anything. That's pushed as a fear of

(32:01):
missing out product is like. He's one of those for every
generation. Yes, I think Funko Pops.
Is that right right now? Yeah, right now they're not
worth anything. No, it's like 3 out of the
1,000,000, right? Yeah, nobody takes them out of
box. I've seen more in boxes than out
of boxes. I know, I know, it's all just
taking up a room. It's like the tag.
The boxes are basically like theBeanie Baby tags.

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Yeah, yeah. You get the plastic on them and
then, yeah, now we're getting into the Black Diamond era,
Ryan. Black Diamond.
So by the late 1980s and throughout the 90's, the policy
became fully branded as the Disney Vault.
Iconic television commercials often featuring the voice over
actor Mark Elliot. One of the I, I told you I

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breezed over this history explicitly warned consumers that
films were coming out of the vault for a limited time before
they would go back into the vault forever.
The scarcity created a robust secondary market.
Early home video releases, knownto collectors as the Black
Diamond series due to its distinct logo on the VHS spine,
became highly valuable collectibles, sometimes fetching

(33:09):
thousands of dollars sealed out of print copies.
Now I'm on a lot of reseller pages on Facebook, Facebook and
people post these Black Diamond VHS and say what do I have here?
And they become laughing stocks.Of like $20.
They are not even like they theythis stuff was mass produced.
And I remember what I was going to say.

(33:31):
I know. What I'm going to say, if you
have like one of those little Boo boos right now that's worth
a lot of money, just sell it. Just be done.
With sell it, sell it now it's. Hot Go get rid of it I.
Remember what I was going to say?
I remember growing up because ofthe Disney vote I assume and the
lack of streaming services. When I was growing up is when
streaming services first came tolight.
You still couldn't watch Disney movies anywhere.

(33:52):
Do you remember that era like the early?
Yeah, I was in my 20s. I don't remember.
Yeah, it's like it. Was probably my 30s to be honest
with. You you couldn't watch these
movies unless you had it on VHS or DVD.
There's. Always still DVD.
Disney Plus was the first time ever that you could do that,
which we'll talk about a little later.
But I like this was very real. Like the the whole like, if you
want to watch this movie, you better find a copy of it or you

(34:13):
better buy a copy of it. It was very real.
Speaking. You couldn't find it anywhere.
Yeah. So I, I, I, I have bought
bootleg copies of Disney. I guess they'd be DVDs, which
is. Crazy.
It's crazy to think that people made money selling bootlegs of
Disney. Yeah, so I was at a car show one
time and they had a bunch of Disney.

(34:34):
They're they're clearly not fromDisney.
Like they had to cover on them, but they were definitely
reboots. And I bought Lion King and it
was good, but it had the MorningReport song on it and I was
like, what is it? What is it?
But I think I looked at it and it was from Europe or something
like that. Yeah.
And to think that there was like, yeah, like, that people

(34:54):
could make a living selling bootleg Disney movies.
That's what are like. Yeah, and this was a during time
where bootleg and everything like we had the, you know,
bootlegging music and all sorts of stuff.
Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's like Disney stuff is soreadily available today.
Oh, it's unbelievable. Crazy to think people are making
money selling ripped off copies of it like you would.
That's a failing business model today.

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You know, it's like. Got my money.
But yeah, 20 years ago, that wasvery much a thing.
I, I, I can't stress this enoughfor anybody who might be
younger, listening to this episode right now is like, we
could not watch Disney movies. At least we owned them.
Like there was no, there was no just hopping on the Internet,
logging into you, your mom's Disney Plus and watching it.
There was no one. Well then they had Disney

(35:38):
Channel but. Yeah, and the, and the the
Sunday night ABC Disney movies, which was a big deal because you
couldn't watch it. Like I don't know a lot of
people that watch network moviesanymore because just watch it at
on demand wherever. So then we move on to the
weaponizing of technology by Disney.
The format wars, if you will. Disney did not abandon the vault

(36:02):
when technological formats changed.
Instead, the company weaponized technological improvements,
reset the revenue cycle and drive repeat purchases of the
same films every seven to 10 years.
When DVD emerged, Disney initiated the Limited Issue
series in the late 1990s to force consumers to upgrade from

(36:23):
their VHS copies. This was followed by the
Platinum Editions in the 2000s, marketed as the definitive fully
restored versions of the most iconic films, complete with
extensive bonus features, but again only available for a short
window. The Blu-ray format continued
this pattern with Diamond Editions and later this

(36:43):
signature collection. Now Ryan and our Patreon members
watching now. I would love to hear your take
on this because I am so funny with remastered movies.
I love a remastered movie, but Ialso love watching it in its
original form. I'm original all the way, just I
just the way it was released is how I want to watch it.

(37:06):
It's like soundtracks and stuff.I don't care for any of the
covers or any like I want to listen to the song that was
released in the movie, how it was played in the movie.
That's all I want to. Hear and that's fair.
And Trent, Trent saying in chat right now, just to further back
up your point is they scrubbed Cinderella to the point where
it's not the same color as the original anymore.
Yeah, like there there's there'sa certain feeling to these

(37:27):
movies that came out a long timeago and the colors and stuff and
it just, I don't think remastering it is, I mean, you
can clean it up a little bit so it's not like blurry or
something. Like that I do I appreciate
that. But then I also but I like but I
like the blurriness sometimes like I like that in the.
One scene in Snow Whiteness 7 Doors that Walt had a fit
because it was blurry but they couldn't fix it.

(37:49):
You know? Like to me, that's part of the
history of the movie. Right, right.
And then to see that remastered is cool, but I again, I just
always run back to these original like lackluster, I
guess, if you will, visual copies of them.
And I hate to keep talking aboutrecords because we're not
talking about records, but it's the same thing.
Like we've seen the reemergence of records of the number one

(38:11):
form of media in the United States in the world today and
why it's it's it's not as good quality as.
Crackly, but it's a warm sound. Exactly it's that warm sound.
It's different it's it takes youback it it may maybe you grew up
listening to that with your parents, your grandparents.

(38:31):
So it brings it's that nostalgiaand then also hearing hearing an
artist on that warm sound. That shouldn't be something
about that that's cool. So if you're on your four KTV
watching a the original Disney VHS on there is something like
it feels like you're breaking the law kind of.
Yeah. You see, you're supposed to be
seeing this picture perfect 4K movie, but it's not it's fuzzy

(38:55):
and it's a little bit you see some static lines every once in
a while. The sounds a little grungier and
I don't know, there's like vintage.
Gaming and stuff like. You absolutely on on you.
Gotta you gotta have the old CRTTV.
Yeah, no, absolutely. Yep.
Well, I had a. Core memory like unlock, and I
don't know if you saw my eyes, but I had a core memory unlock
when you mentioned records, and I had a Muppets record that I

(39:18):
listened to constantly as a kid and that I didn't remember it
until you just brought that up. See, it's just like something
nostalgic about it just like that.
Like I have, I talked about thislast week, I think might have, I
think it was last week on the podcast that I found my old
cassette player and it's his oldcassette player.
And I found that Muppets cassette tape.
And I had, it's funny because inmy daughter's bedroom, I have my

(39:44):
cassette player from when I grewup as a kid that was probably
purchased for 1999 brand new back in the 90s, right?
Right next to it is a $300 Applehome Pod.
The Apple Home pod. I can say I can say Siri play C
is for cookie right? I'm moving right along, but I
choose to press play on that cassette player and to rewind

(40:05):
and to eject it and make and to see where, what song I'm looking
for so I can Fast forward or or rewind.
It's because of something nostalgic about it.
And I think that's where Disney is so smart with these vaulting
forever because they make peoplerunning at this stuff because
even when there's better optionsout there, they know well the
problem is their childhood. Yeah.
It's too convenient, yeah. Like you could just say

(40:27):
something to your phone and it doesn't, which is great.
But back then you had to physically do stuff to earn the
thing you wanted. And there's also a feeling of
accomplishment when you did like, even if it's a little
rewinding it, but still you had to do something to get to get to
that point. Yeah, yeah, you have one of
those rewinders that you could top like that.
Oh, independent rewinders. Fast ones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you take it out the VHS

(40:48):
player, then you can put it in there before you turn out the
blockbuster. Be kind rewind.
God I miss the old days. Oh man.
Just want to go back for a couple weeks.
Disney utilized a form of permanent content restriction
for controversial material, illustrating that content
control was not always rooted ineconomic scarcity.
The most famous examples is the 1946 film Song of the South.

(41:12):
The film was criticized since its debut for its problematic
portrayal of African Americans in the Reconstruction Era.
S It has never been released on a home video in the United
States, and it remains unavailable in Disney Plus.
Former CEO Bob Iger confirmed that the decision was made to
protect the brand, stating that re releasing it wouldn't
necessarily sit right or feel right to the number of people

(41:33):
today. The fault.
In this context, function is a tool for managing the corporate
image and historical narrative. So he was right.
Yeah, you did. The right thing.
There were different reasons to vault a movie, and this one was.
Yeah. This one was not for profits,
this was for I guess it was for profits ultimately because they

(41:55):
didn't want to lose profits all their.
Money if they played that. One, if you are interested in
watching this film, it is on Internet Archive, you can
Google. And I watched it for our.
Episode. It is absolutely free and there
are there are really magical, whimsical animations in this
movie and it's worth. How's that?

(42:17):
Old feel. Yeah, it does.
Because it it felt like avhs watching it.
I watched it. I think I watched it on my phone
but. The actor who plays Uncle Remus
plays a really good role. He's there's good points in the
movie. There's some, there's some high
points. And then the low points are
like, I understand why this is not celebrated and it shouldn't

(42:38):
be, but it's a it's a good history film, not as much as the
romantic, the romanticizing of that era.
But to see like that movie was put out in a time where it was
like, wow, that was was OK back then.
It was kind of, you know, it's kind of interesting to look at
it that way. But you can watch it critically,
I would say, and enjoy the musicbecause some of the music is

(42:59):
pretty good, like zippity Doo dah, but you can't hear anymore.
So, yeah, so. Well, they played like an
instrumental versions of it around the park.
They did. They brought it back.
I think they're it might play. There's a couple places like
where they might just play as background sound.
That's interesting, I didn't. Know that.
But yeah, I thought they did that.
Maybe on Main Street, I don't know.

(43:20):
The piano player will play it. I did not know that.
I thought it was just like totally no.
No, I don't think they've gottenrid of the song.
Interesting. So let's Fast forward to what we
grew up with, what we grew up with, what we have experienced
in the past few years, not grew up with the streaming era.
So the traditional, the traditional commercial vault

(43:43):
policy met its execs, met its effective end with the launch of
Disney Plus in November of 2019.Which do you remember?
Like this was a huge, huge day. Right.
Yeah, the launch of Disney Plus.I have no idea how excited I was
when I heard about this coming out.

(44:03):
It was because obviously being able to watch all the old films
were so cool, but then the emergence of a Disney Plus
originals and stuff. Which?
There were there were only a few, which I I there are a few
that I it's crazy to talk about in the after we because I, I
something shocking happened thatI wasn't even aware of until we
did the research for this. But the main DeLorean Day 1

(44:26):
Disney plus release, like you said, Lady and the tramp, just
exciting, exciting day. But I think that nostalgia was
the what was what took the cake on.
It was like, wow, I can watch Cinderella like. 3:00 in the
morning. All these movies I hadn't seen
in decades. On my phone, all of a.
Sudden they're at the I can justwatch them.
Crazy. To successfully compete in the

(44:48):
modern streaming market, Disney required its entire core library
of animated classics to be continuously available on the
platform, shifting the core strategy from retail scarcity to
subscription driven presence. The launch was marketed with the
slogan The Vault is Wide Open. And I think this was the perfect
marketing strategy because kids don't care.

(45:11):
They want Disney Plus because they love Disney.
But us as adults, hearing the vault is open there that is so
magical and taboo and like kind of a slap in the face.
I'm not going to lie. Maybe a slap in the face like
you were lying to us all these years.
But I think I'm too excited to be upset.
Right? Open the vault.

(45:31):
Let me in. So Sierra just just said that
Victor was part of the the the movie Club where they sent you
movies. Oh, and.
When she said that, I just remembered I was too.
Yeah, and you got points for buying DVDs and stuff, right?
Yeah. Yeah, they'll send you a movie
and you end up sending it back, but.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't know much about that.
That would actually be a maybe agood obscure history.

(45:51):
I don't know if we could do a whole episode, but.
No, but you could do a mini one on that one for sure because
that, yeah, I was part of that. That's an interesting one.
Maybe we'll have. Maybe we'll have you on it.
Maybe we'll do a 7 minute long 1instead of fun.
They didn't let you pick what movie you got to see.
I did not know that. As far as I remembered is like
you'd be good to pick which one they send you.
They just send you one. It was Russian roulette Netflix.

(46:12):
Yeah, it was. It was something.
So Fast forward to now, present day, the notion of vaulting has
mutated into a new financial practice.
Following the acquisition of 21st Century Fox, Disney has
engaged in permanently removing dozens of underperforming films
and television series from Disney Plus and Hulu.

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This is a calculated financial strategy.
By declaring this content non viable and removing it, Disney
can take significant impairment charge for tax purposes,
reducing operational costs and avoiding the payment of ongoing
residuals, which is pretty scummy.
But this new form of digital vaulting strategy resulted in a
massive 1.5 to 1.8 billion impairment charge in 2023, which

(46:58):
means that basically a tax writeoff.
So content accessibility remainsa highly managed strategic asset
now governed by subscription economics and accounting
decisions rather than the physical limits of store
shelves. So my first question when Alex
was talking about this last night, this is the end of the

(47:20):
Disney vault history. So we'll just wrap up our our
thoughts because I have a lot ofthoughts about this.
But what did they remove from Disney Plus because he was
reading a Disney Plus originals report and Disney Plus originals
are only 6 years old. They came out and not even six
years old right There are and I had to look it up and I had to
Fact Check it and I have it right here on this little post

(47:43):
it note anybody got our? Handwritten.
Anybody. Theaters right in front of you.
I didn't have my computer open last night.
The Word document open rather. Anybody in chat do have any of
you? And I'd be shocked if you did
because I think people forgot about these.
But if any of you searched for something on Disney plus and
thought huh that's not there I I've heard of.

(48:03):
People doing that. Yeah, so.
There's all those, some of the classic movies off, I know that.
So, OK, Trance's house and mass that was never put on, I don't
think right. I don't think house masks never
get all that right, which I don't know why.
We don't know why yet. There's a lot of conspiracies on
why it hasn't been put up, but I'm talking about stuff that was
on Disney Plus and removed Trent's typing.

(48:26):
It's probably going to be like in 2022.
It was over there for 24 hours and. 250.
AMI think some of these titles are going to shock you?
I have three titles that shockedme.
Big Shot with John Stamos. Do you remember that?
No. He came back to coach
basketball. It was a Disney Plus original
maybe two years ago. Alex talked about it on the

(48:48):
podcast and he was actively watching it.
It's John Stamos, right? Yeah, Mr. Stamos.
Pulled this was a I'll say this one for last.
The Willow series is not on, is not on there anymore.
Really. Not on there anymore.
They pulled that permanently offof Disney Plus.

(49:08):
Well, that was a big deal when it came out.
I know, but it was a big deal and this was the most shocking
to me because this was a Day 1 Disney Plus release and I I went
to my Disney Plus account and I searched for this one and it is
confirmed not there. The world, I think it's called
The World. According to Jeff Goldblum, is
not on Disney Plus anymore. I watched that.

(49:30):
I know, isn't that crazy? I love, I love Jeff Goldblum.
I, I he's. Oh my God.
So you're talking you're talkingWarwick Davis, Jeff Goldblum and
John Stamos all pulled from Disney Plus.
But why? Why pull them?
Why not just leave them? Like it's not like they're
they're running out of bandwidthor.
Anything like that. So really what what it comes
down to is at the end of the year they take down

(49:51):
underperforming high expense projects.
Just cancel it. You can still leave the old what
you put into it already left outthere.
Well, by cancelling these quote UN quote cancelling take them
off, they can write them off fortax purposes.
So think about it when I was on there and they, it's not driving

(50:11):
anybody to the, to the platform.They have to pay Warwick Davis's
residuals, which I assume are higher than the average noted
person, right? And it's not driving anybody to
the platform. So instead they're going to take
the, I don't know, 15,000,000 tax write off for the year.
That's how much it cost to to say this failed, we're going to

(50:32):
write it off. And I don't know in film with
taxes because I'm in a totally different business than film.
But I don't know if you can depreciate your films, right?
So I don't know if it costs you 50 million.
You can write off depreciation every year like you go to the
property or a vehicle, but you can, but you can write off like
I guess the total production cost.
I don't know. I that's another really
interesting thing to look up because I get, I assume you

(50:54):
would write off the production cost when it happens.
So what are they writing off when this when they take it off
that that's actually something that we did not look into
because it's just not paramount to the episode, but interesting
nonetheless. They removed clouds and Artemis
Fowl Disney Plus movies, Trent just said.
Wow, Artemis Fowl I I remember hearing about that.

(51:15):
So I did not look up anything from Hulu, but I'd be curious to
see what they got rid of on Hulubecause that I, I, I assume that
there's not a lot of loyalty to Hulu films and TV shit, you know
what I mean? I know Prey is still on there,
so like, I was looking at it. Yeah, I.
Would watch it That's but yeah, so those 3 movies are the most
shocking to me. If you're able sitting to get
home and you've if you ever findthat you're like oh wow, it's

(51:38):
not on there. Write us because I'd love to
know the other films that were yeah that were removed.
So that's the history on the Disney vault.
The Disney vault is not gone. It is still very much here.
Just like, look, the world, according to Jeff Goldblum is
now in the vault. Yeah, they're just not letting
us know they're. Doing it anymore, I know.
Trying to hype it up to just saying, well, we're just going

(52:00):
to take this away. And every once in a while, not
on Disney, but I will see because when you stream
something, you need the license to stream it.
So I do see like online, like, hey, last chance to watch this
on such and such streaming service, whether it be, you
know, a Harry Potter movie or this or that.
But I, I never, I never see thatfor Disney.
And I guess with stuff like that, they keep it hush hush

(52:21):
because it's not Star Wars, right?
Yeah. It's big shot with John Stamos,
which if you go on IMDb to get asix point or a 7.6 out of 10,
that's a rating. It's a really strong, that's a
really strong rating for Disney Plus original with John Stamos.
You know, so I mean, it's just, it just wasn't driving people
like let's just take this tax right off instead.

(52:42):
So yeah, still the, the the vault is still very much alive
and they're just, I, I really thought it was interesting how
it morphed from 1940's The Vaultwas re releasing and you get the
fear of missing out with that. Then it moves the VH, s s and
DVDs. Now it's Disney Plus to an
extent, but for totally different reasons.

(53:05):
That's insane. Yeah, I had no idea.
So the Disney Vault was obviously not the first and was
not the last to do like this vault strategy.
We see this every day with stuffand you and I actually are are
sucking. Oh no, we are.
We, me and you are suckered intothis strategy outside of Disney.

(53:29):
So a very similar strategy is rereleasing like, you know, is is
re releasing a product, right. And then it goes into the vault
for a while. Yeah, yeah, we texted about this
a couple weeks ago. A company just re released
something from the vault and we wanted to go and eat it.
Dang it. The Mcrib McDonald's follows the

(53:51):
same strategy. Three of them in the last two
days. Bringing the big rib out of the
vault for a limited time. We have McDonald's has, is the
gold standard because you never know when the Mcrib's going
back, right? We have, we have stuff like like
the pumpkin spice latte, which people are like, you know, they

(54:11):
get it from, you know, from August now, August to December,
right? They're going to leave it out
for. A while a lot of luxury St. wear
like Supreme and Nike do drops. I don't.
Have you heard of drops and you need to be on the app You buy it
now or you'll never be able to buy it again.
Jordan brand does the same thingwhere they release they re

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release the same they call them retro Jordans so that the retro
Jordan. Jordan, Jordan Guy.
And they, they, they do that. And it all follows the same
Disney strategy of this putting things into the vault.
You see it with Pokémon cards who will have a series of cards
and then they just, they won't print them ever again.

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But then recently for the 25th anniversary, they reprint cards,
the little stamp on it, you get the nostalgia.
Just like that Black Diamond label with with Disney, he gets
25th anniversary. It is not as valuable, but
you're chasing the nostalgia. And so all all these companies
do it. I think Disney, Disney obviously

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has lost their way a little bit.Now they're doing it just to
write off for tax purposes. But anyway, that's the history
of the Disney Vault, more of a marketing strategy than an
actual literal vault. Just in case you wondered what
the vault was growing up. Like I said earlier, there is a
literal vault that they keep very important original film
cells and stuff in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've seen videos on it. Yeah, which would be a whole

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nother. We could name it the same exact
thing and then talk about something completely different.
Yeah, episode 2 is coming up. Yeah, Vault Part 2, The real
Yeah. And you know what?
Maybe we start vaulting. Actually, we did vault all of
our. We did.
Podcast Guilty. We're guilty of the same thing.
We vaulted our old. Episodes for different reasons,

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but. Legal reasons.
But they are. They're in the vault if you
will, and they are behind a paywall.
No, it's it's like ours. They literally did the same
thing. Every company does the same
thing, and for better or for worse, it does make things
cooler. Yeah, and so if you want to
listen to our old house, I lost $2.00 a month.

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Do you do you hear that? Sounds like somebody is trying
to crack a crack a vault or something.
Oh my gosh, a vault in the distance.
I see a vault opening and the and the incursion is coming out
of it. I'm like, gosh.
How big is his fault? My God, it's an incursion.
That's Incursions music. Disney initially fought the
rights to video rental stores, fearing that the low cost

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rentals would eliminate the urgency to buy a premium priced
$80 VHS. The film Fantasia and often
excluded from the regular Vault cycle due to its complex music
rights and unique two-part structure, making its scheduling
difficult. The first film digitally
vaulting removed from purchase libraries by Disney was A Goofy
Movie in 2019, a quiet test to content control just before

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Disney Plus launched. By 1990.
Oh, that's it. That's it why they vault Disney
on Disney movie Disney Goofy Movie.
That is interesting. Is it not on Disney plus?
Oh no, it is before I. Watched it the other day I was.
Going to say I'm pretty sure I watched that on that.
I just watched that. I probably should have said this
week in Disney, but they vaultedit right before it came out.

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