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Alex, Chris, and The Chunnel take a magical trip back to World War II with 1971's Bedknobs and Broomsticks, a film that is definitely NOT Mary Poppins. Who is most connected to Tom Hanks, why does Alex want to stay in a castle, and what is a Cosmic Creepus? Tune into this edition of Into the Dizneyverse to find out!


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(00:00):
Initiating Launch sequence Multiverse Reactor is staple
launching in 321. The Boatman Jim Walrus.
I hate. You people.
So much did you? Did you?
Cosmic creep. It's over there.
It's a restaurant animal Kingdomknown as Risker House.
Into the Disney verse. Into the Disney Verse.

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Into the Disney. Verse into the Disney verse.
Traguna Mccoyte's Tracorum sadist D and Hey, howdy, Hey,
welcome back to Into the Disney Verse, where we dive into the
world of Disney past, present and future.
I'm your host variant for this episode.
I am the channel and I am, as always, joined by my fellow

(00:40):
variants, Chris and Alex. Welcome in guys.
Thank you. Thank you for welcoming me.
Thank you. Thank you for welcoming me.
So glad to have both of you hereon the show.
Glad that you guys are really excited to dive into a really
magical episode. But before we dive into this
magical episode, let's talk about taking a magical getaway.

(01:01):
Chris, what you have to say if you want to take a magical
getaway, a magical vacation somewhere.
Well, if I misplaced my spell book like the main character in
Bedknobs and Broomsticks, I would.
Definitely forgot her name. Yeah, I did.
I don't know any of the names. I was gonna say antagonist or
protagonist, but I always get the mixed up, so I didn't say
that either. I'm gonna say protagonist

(01:23):
because that sounds positive, but I was if I was the
protagonist. Misses Bassett, right?
No, that's the actress's name. Nope, you've got Angela Bassett
who was in Black Panther. Not.
Not even the same ethnicity. Well, anyway, if I misplaced my
spell book like the character Angela Lansbury.

(01:47):
That's not the character, that's.
Played by Angela Lansbury in themovie Bedknobs and Bagpipes, I
would reach out to Ashley at Adventure Awaits by Ashley.
Another really smooth transitioninto plugging the greatest
travel agent of our generation. I when I was watching this

(02:08):
movie, they did show the scene of a castle and you know, I do
want to travel to a castle one day actually.
Can you help me book a trip to acastle in England?
Are you asking her like she's onthe show right now?
Well, she's live in the chat room so she can answer my
question because if you want to be live in the chat room or
record, just join the discord and join.

(02:29):
Yes, she can as a response to your question.
Little 2 as a month. You can watch this live record
every week except for we're on YouTube.
You don't even have to pay $2.00to Ashley to help have her help
book your vacation. That's right, she's cheaper than
us. We cost $2.00 a month.
She does not. And if you're booking with any
other travel agent other than Ashley, you're doing it wrong.

(02:51):
Reach out to Adventure Awaits byAshley.
Let her know that into the Disney of her ascension.
So this trip to to a castle, right?
I want to go to a castle, I wantto stay there and my last name
is Co. So it's like middle middle
England area if you want to do middle, if you want to deep dive
into it, it's KO old English spelling.
So Bedknobs and Broomsticks is one of those films that I feel

(03:14):
like really doesn't get talked about a ton compared to its
older sibling, Mary Poppins. And it's really impossible for
us to dive into this episode without bringing up Mary Poppins
because the similarities betweenthose two films are deeply,
deeply similar to each other andthe two films get compared to

(03:35):
each other a lot of the time. I mean, right off the bat,
Bedknobs and Broomsticks was made not long after Walt Disney
died in the period of time whereDisney was all about asking what
would Walt Disney have done in this situation?
And so it's really fascinating to see how it felt like in many

(03:55):
ways they were trying to copy and re obtain the success of
Walt greatest masterpiece, Mary Poppins.
And yet the history really starts well before that.
But I know all three of us went and watched Bed Knobs and
Broomsticks before recording this episode.
Did you guys see any of those similarities?
Oh yeah, for sure. It's definitely, it's definitely
the We Have Mary Poppins at Homescenario and it's bed knobs and

(04:19):
broomsticks. I have never watched Mary
Poppins, but I did listen to theepisode that I was on of Mary
Poppins, so I did see the similarities.
You know, babysitter magic, babysitter Nazis, stuff like
that. Were there Nazis and Mary
Poppins? I just.
Assumed. You're thinking of The Sound of

(04:40):
Music. It is fascinating how often
fascinating, how often Nazis arethe villains of iconic films.
Sound of Music, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Casablanca,
Schindler's List to list those gone and on.
It's funny. It's fascinating, yeah.
And in real life too, yeah. Exactly.
And in real life and in this movie as well, like they're kind
of the classic film villains that films turn to because

(05:03):
they're just so detestable, you know?
Yeah. Yeah, everyone's always OK.
Yes, those are the bad guys. Yes.
Like it's like there's never, there's never a question about
it and you're just always going to root for the good guys.
Well, nobody's like ever going to root for the Nazis unless
you're a Nazi, so you're automatically going to root for
whoever's against the Nazis. And that really helps to bolster

(05:25):
support for the protagonist of the film.
So let me ask you guys this Out of 10 stars of Azeroth, what
would you give Biv nobs and broomsticks?
Oh, man, Go ahead, Chris, can you give it?
I used the app Letterboxed. You can follow me on Letterboxed
and I gave this a three out of five stars, which would be no,

(05:49):
which would be the opponent, a six out of 1010 on a 10 star
scale. So I've got a six.
OK, a six, that's not bad for you.
Yeah. I think it's, it was, yeah.
And we'll, we'll talk about our,you know what we liked and
didn't like about the movie, Butit was a very enjoyable movie.
But it was a below good movie. Like I feel like a good solid

(06:09):
movie is going to be 7:00-ish. This was below that, but it was
enjoyable. How about you, Castle boy?
So I've been, I've been keeping quiet because I didn't want to
reveal this, but I'll give this movie a. 4 garbage this movie
is. Terrible.
The songs that are terrible, it's way too long.

(06:32):
And I myself, I myself was like,is this almost over?
And I looked at the time, there was 50 minutes left and I was
like, how is that impossible? The songs are 5 minute long and
they have a minute of lyrics andthe rest are just mixed
melodies. Not even together melodies,
mixed melodies. Let's do a little bit of this, a

(06:55):
little bit of that, a little bitof this, a little bit of that.
So I go to four. If someone's like, hey, do you
want to watch this or give me $5, I'd give them $5.
That's why I'm below the five mark.
Wow, that that that is one of mymajor criticisms of the of the
movie that is. Portobello Rd. is so hard to get
through I will say. That is A and that that was one

(07:15):
of the key ones right there that.
Sequence is really soft to get through, no?
It's not that's my favorite songI love OK, so so here OK, here's
the thing. My that's my favorite song in
the movie, but there's. So many that are after.
After the singing part, I got distracted because I was
watching, you know, Ellie and stuff.
And then 10 minutes goes by and then they started doing like an

(07:37):
outro for the song. I was like, wait a second, are
they still? Are they still singing this
song? And.
That song really goes on and on and on.
Yeah, but I do love, I guess the3 or 4 minutes when they're
walking down and the kids are doing calls and mischief and and
they're singing the Portobello red song.
Now I I'm more of a beautiful briny C fan.

(07:59):
Also Eglintine. But for me, for this film, I
would probably give it a 7 point.
I'm gonna go 7.8. It's not perfect, it's no Mary
Poppins, but it's thoroughly enjoyable.
It it goes in waves, it's got peaks in them.
In many ways it feels like two or three films meshed together,

(08:20):
but I still thoroughly enjoy it.I'm not gonna like I I would
totally watch it again. Yeah, I'll I I enjoyed this
movie. I did.
It was just long, but we'll we'll we'll talk about that
after we talk about the actors in this movie.
Mags, I would like to have a little, have a little, play a

(08:41):
little game with you guys. I dig it.
I dig. It look under your seats.
I dig it. There's two keys.
Collectively, we give it a six. That's solid.
I think that's very fair for this.
That's not awful. Yeah, collectively we give it a.
Six first time I First off, had either of you seen this film
before you watched it for this episode?
Never. No.
OK. So I had seen it for the first

(09:03):
time back when I was a kid. We got the DVD for this film
through Netflix DVD service. So yeah, aging myself a little
bit. Here.
Oh yeah, I remember those days. It's.
Like 5 years ago that. So when we got it, we, we, we
put in the film, we watched it, we, we enjoyed it.

(09:23):
We didn't adore it, but we enjoyed it.
And then there was a scratch on the DVD and it skipped.
So we weren't able to watch the end of the Isle of Naboombu
sequence. So hadn't actually seen the end
of that sequence until a few years ago.
And I just happened to rewatch this film on a whim but.
Pretty bad. Sequence the Isle of Naboom.

(09:44):
We'll talk. We'll talk all about Isle of
Naboom. Boom.
So, but let's go ahead and dive into our history here.
So go ahead, take your bed knobs, turn them a quarter, turn
to the left because we're heading all the way back to
1943. We're going to be talking about
English author Mary Norton. Mary Norton went and wrote her

(10:05):
first children's book, a book called The Magic Bed Knob.
It was a book about three children going on an adventure
on an enchanted bed after meeting a witch next door.
And just two years after that book was published, in 1945,
Walt Disney purchased the film rights.

(10:27):
That's interesting. Then in 1947, Norton wrote
Bonfires and Broomsticks. It was a sequel and it featured
the bed now time travelling before the children met a
necromancer named Emilius. And OK, so can you describe what
that title means before I look it up?

(10:48):
I know what necromancers are, I can tell you the DND version,
but it might not be the same tell.
US Castle. Boy necromancer is someone who
can bring the dead to life so they they can bring like
skeletons up from the ground of recent deceased.
Thank goodness. That's one main thing they do
OK. I like that definition, mine was
way worse. The two books would be combined
into one book in 1957. And as the difficult Mary

(11:11):
Poppins film rights negotiationswere going on, you guys remember
that, right? PL.
Travers, her aunt, all that stuff.
Bed Knobs and Broomsticks was seen as an alternative.
If Mary Poppins wasn't going to pan out, Bed Knobs and
Broomsticks would be made instead.
So in order to prepare for the situation, Robert and Richard

(11:35):
Sherman were asked by Walt to start development on Bed Knobs
and Broomsticks. They had a story conference with
Bill Walsh, who would be the producer for the film, and Don
Degradi who would be the screenwriter of the film.
Sherman Brothers ended up writing a demo for a song
Eglantine, based around the maincharacter Eglantine Price.

(11:57):
They performed the demo of the song for Walt Disney and Walt
fell asleep in his chair. I believe it.
Mary Poppins would end up being made.
Yeah, this was, yeah, I think, Ithink if you reverse the orders
that you come out, like if this came out before Mary Poppins, it
probably wouldn't been deemed more of a success than it was

(12:19):
when it came out because you, I mean, Mary Poppins was so good
compared to this, so much better.
It's also worth noting that the they were able to obtain the
film rights to Mary Poppins for those who missed episode 33 of
our show. So that also was the main reason
why Bedknobs and Broomsticks would be shelved around this
time around the early 1960s. So, but I agree with what you're

(12:45):
saying, Alex. If it had come beforehand, it
would have been seen as more novel, as fresher maybe so.
So far on the show, we've talkedabout 5.
This is now our fifth episode about a subject matter that
combines live action and animation.
And this is the fourth feature length film that we've covered.
So we talked all about, I think episode 25 was Song of the

(13:07):
South. As I said, episode 33 was Mary
Poppins episode, I want to say 29 was Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
And now we've got Beb Nobs and Broomsticks here, episode 58.
How would you guys rank those 4?Oh.
Is it the quality of which they did it or is just the movie in

(13:29):
general? I'd say the movie in general,
personally. Oh gosh.
I don't know, because going backto watching song itself, I
remember being a little more a little more entertained because
it's just so ridiculous, right? It was way more ridiculous,

(13:50):
which caught my attention. I don't mean that.
I don't think that's means it was good.
It just was a little more entertaining because it was so
preposterous, I mean. The animated segments in my
opinion were definitely. They had more to them in Song of
the South and they like the animation a lot better as well.
I agree. That's fair.
Yeah, I mean, like you said, we're going to talk about that,
the animation they did like whenthey went to the story later,

(14:12):
but like when you watch it, you're like, oh, they're just
reusing the stencils from JungleBook or something.
Like the characters all look like that style which you've
already seen, so it's not unique.
So I think, I think Roger Rabbit's definitely #1 when it
comes to like the quality of themovie and the quality of the

(14:33):
animation blending with people, I would say Roger Rabbit's
number one, no. If we're going based on quality,
I don't remember loving Roger Rabbit that much, but I remember
very distracted during the movie.
Yeah, so I can't really rank Roger Rabbit.
What were the other three? Song of the South Bed knobs?
And what was Mary? Poppins, which I know you can't
rank, I. Guess see, and I didn't watch
that. So if I had to go number one and

(14:53):
two, I'd go bed knobs and then Song of the South.
But I will say, I will say I enjoyed the animation,
sequences, style and scenes justway more in Song of the South
than I did in bed knobs and brooding sticks.
I feel like if we just didn't goto the Isle of Nabooboo, it
would be it wouldn't have been missed.

(15:14):
I think, I think it would definitely go Roger Rabbit, Mary
Poppins and then Ben alms. I think Song of South Ben alms
and broomsticks is the word. For me it's Mary Poppins is
number 1, then Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Then I'd put Beddoms and
Broomsticks and then Song of theSouth.

(15:35):
I just, I can't get over the racism for Song of the South.
So I mean. I didn't know that was part of
the. I didn't know that was part of
the. I didn't know that was part of
it. And then of course, in episode
22, we talked about the Alice comedies, which started all of
this. So 1966, it's back in
development, this time being called The Magic Bedpost.

(15:57):
Horrible title, by the way. Yeah, pretty bad.
I have one of those. What does that even mean?
I'm a magic bedpost and. What do you do with your magic
bedpost, Chris? Couldn't tell you Magician never
reveals his secrets. But what's what's what?
I have questions, Sir. Sorry I don't have answers for

(16:17):
you, but carry on. Now that it was back in 1966,
just two years after Mary Poppins had released, the
Sherman Brothers resumed their work and then ultimately the
film would be shelved again. It was decided it was too
similar to Mary Poppins and it was only two years later.
And then a guy named Walt Disneydied end of 1966, and that sent

(16:41):
the company into a bit of a spiral.
They weren't really sure which way to turn.
Walt Disney had been their guiding force all this time, but
he smoked too many cigarettes and it really it cost him in the
end. Man died young, so don't smoke
kids. With all of this going on, the
Sherman Brothers contract with Disney Company was going to
expire in 1968, and as such, Bill Walsh decided to set up

(17:06):
work again on the film. So he wanted all of the songs in
the storyline to be stored away,especially because he wanted to
make sure the Sherman Brothers would finish their work before
their contract ended. But he had no intention of
starting the production again anytime soon.
So he made a promise to the Sherman Brothers and said, hey,
I promise that I will call you back to finish it at some point.

(17:29):
We'll take a brief break here because I do want to read some
of the rankings that some of ourPatreon members had for those
four films that we mentioned. I'm curious what they've got to
say. So Ashley of Adventure Awaits by
Ashley fame put the exact same ranking as me, actually.
Poppins, Roger Rabbit, Bedknobs,and Song of the South Trent
agreed completely with me as well.

(17:50):
So I personally, I feel like I'min good company here.
They agree with you on that. I definitely, I think that's
actually, I mean, I think that'sa very popular.
Order respectable for sure. I think a lot of people.
Would do that order. Oh yeah, especially if you're a
Mary Poppins fan, which I am nota Mary Poppins fan, but I know a
lot of people are I. Mean it's the same ranking as me
as well if people forget that. Wait, who does what has the same

(18:13):
ranking as you? Ashley and Trent, as you did,
you break the list in half. Oh, I I guess that's true.
Oh, 'cause you said bet Nozabum song in the South.
Correct. Gotcha.
Yeah, fair. Very, very fair.
Some of the songs that the Sherman Brothers had written
were not originally intended forBedknobs and Broomsticks 1.

(18:33):
Specifically, the Beautiful Briny was originally written for
the Mary Poppins compass scene that would eventually be cut
from the film. Again, we talked about that back
in that episode. All in all though, the Sherman
Brothers wrote 9 songs for Bedknobs and Broomsticks.
Can we talk about when she's flying on the broom for the
first time? I could have sworn I heard Big

(18:55):
Beautiful tomorrow. I, I felt like multiple times
this film, I heard a melody thatI've heard before, yes, ever
since movie before. Yeah, and I looked it up and
it's not, but it's it, it's definitely, there's definitely a
nod to it for sure. If anybody in chat or if anybody
listening on their phone right now agrees with me, write us

(19:20):
about it. So I'm not a crazy person.
I definitely agree. I felt I, I don't know if it was
beautiful tomorrow, whatever youjust said, but I definitely
think. Beautiful tomorrow.
There was many times in this film when it was like the
beginning of a song or the ending of a song, or like
they're just kind of clawing it down for a minute.
And the melody seemed very similar, familiar to me.

(19:43):
Real fans, bedknobs and broomsticks or broom heads, you
know? I'm a bit of a broom head
myself, you know. Really, Chris is a broom head
too. Well, all, all of us broomheads
know that not all of those songsare featured in the film, and
yet some of their instrumentals are featured in the film.
So I wonder if that's what you had heard, Alex.

(20:05):
We'll talk a little bit about that in a bit, but we're going
to take a break now from the production side of the film.
Talk about the casting. The main character, Eglin, Tyne
Price, a few different folks. Were considered for the role
Leslie Caron, Lynn Redgrave, Judy Carne and then Julie
Andrews. So they asked Julie Andrews and
she hesitated. She wasn't sure.

(20:26):
It was very similar to Mary Poppins and so meanwhile.
Do you want to be in this Mary Poppins knock off?
What? Well, So what happens is she's
not sure. So Disney's like, all right, we
don't know if she's going to join.
So they go and get Angela Lansbury.
She signs on in 1969. Finally, Julie Andrews was like,
you know what, I kind of do wantto be in this film.

(20:47):
Plus, Disney really helped me out with my career.
So she goes back to Disney and says, you know what, I want to
be in this film. And they're like, too late.
We already gave the part to someone else.
Wow, I, I, I, I don't know if itwould have been better or worse
if she was in it, because I mean, she obviously would have
been a better like, I think she would have been a better talent
when it comes to like the what she.

(21:08):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You did not just diss Dame Angela Lansbury.
I did not just hear that. The only thing I've seen her in
is Murder She wrote, Murder she wrote.
I never watched that show. Have you ever seen Beauty and
the Beast? OK, that's part of my game.
So it's part of my name's game. So oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

(21:29):
Everyone knows that cut that cutthat.
It's part of the game. Spots.
Original Manchurian Candidate I.Don't know what that means.
Wait, you guys have never seen the Manchurian Candidate?
Like, have you ever seen CaptainAmerica The Winter Soldier?
I think so. Did you enjoy that movie?
I did. It's in many parts based on The

(21:49):
Manchurian Candidate, which stars, mind you, Frank Sinatra.
Oh. It's a great movie I cannot
recommend. Again, I cannot recommend OG
Manchurian Candidate enough. And if you don't want to go with
that one, they've remade it withDenzel, so.
I think oh is that why I recognize the name?
That's probably why you recognize the name.

(22:10):
I anyway, what I was saying was I think it would have been, I
don't know if it'd been worse orbetter because then it would
have been even more like a Mary Poppins knock off, but then it
would have had Mary Poppins in it.
So like, I don't, I don't know how that would translate.
Probably been better. By the way, Trent did just
confirm they use the same melodyfor Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow

(22:31):
for the song that was previouslycut and now Restore entitled to
step in the right direction in the movie.
We'll step in the right direction.
We'll talk a little bit about step in the right direction in a
little bit here. It's it's I, I don't dislike
step in the right direction. It's one of three songs that
were cut from the film. But again, we'll talk about that
when we talk about when the filmwas ready to be released for

(22:53):
Professor Emilius Brown. Peter Ustenov was originally
considered for the role, then Ron Moody.
Ron Moody demanded top billing of the film and Disney said
Nope, so he was out. Then they asked Dick Van Dyke,
who turned it down because he felt it was too similar to the
part of Bert from OH. My God, they were.
Just. They were just.
Could you imagine to run the whole thing in both?

(23:15):
I mean, I guess, I guess they did it on Chitty Chitty Bang
Bang. They had both those people in
that movie. Nope.
No, no, no, no, no. Was that?
Was that really? Not Julie Andrews was not in
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Oh, that's Julie Andrews
Knockoff. Julie Andrews Knockoff.
It was Andrew Julia, I think. What was her name in the film?
What was the character's name inChitty Chitty Bang Bang?
It was truly scrumptious, right?Is that who you're thinking of?

(23:37):
Truly scrumptious was Sally Ann Hoes.
Yeah, I've never, I've never seen her in anything else that I
know of. I don't know, I think she ever
went on to do anything anymore. That is funny that they try to
get him involved. So finally, they went with
another actor from Mary Poppins,David Tomlinson, who played
George Banks, the father in MaryPoppins.
And in that situation, it would have been really, really weird

(23:58):
if Julie Andrews had been the female lead, seeing her end up
with the father from Mary Poppins.
I mean, I guess in that sense, it would have been just
rerunning Sound of Music. But the Rawlins children
Charlie, Carey and Paul had appeared in various commercials
and small roles throughout England before being found by

(24:19):
Disney. And this film would be the final
film for actor Reginald Owens, who played Ebenezer Scrooge in
the 1938 film version of A Christmas Carol.
Very celebrated British actor and his final film would be But
Not the Broomsticks. He would play the captain of the
old Guard. The soldiers who had previously
fought in World War One returnedhome were too old to fight in

(24:42):
World War 2 and ended up being amajor line of defense for those
small English towns. We should also mention the film
takes place in World War 2. I don't know that we actually
made that clear, but. Right during during pre American
involvement during World War 2. It was with the Battle of
Britain before American involvement.

(25:05):
I don't know but it was 19491941in the film.
OK, good to know I didn't catch that.
So nice to catch Alex. So with all these actors and
actors being said and some briefmentions of other Disney films
that they were in, can you name other actors and actresses in
this movie that were in other Disney films?
And can you guess who was in themost?

(25:25):
I'll give you a hint, there are four actors and actresses, 3
actors, one actress in this movie that have been in other
Disney films. Now you've set a couple of them
already, so if you want to rattle them off first, you guys
can work together on this. You want to rattle those off
1st. So, Angela Lansbury, of course,
Missus. Potts, David Tomlinson.

(25:45):
David Tom was incorrect, and there's two others that play
more that play smaller characters, but one plays a
little bit more of a prominent character.
Roddy McDowell, Correct. He's one of them.
Mr. Jokes. Wait, hold on, which one?
'S Roddy McDowell. Oh, Mr. Joe, we'll talk a ton
about the priest. I recognize that guy.
Actually, when I saw him, I recognized him.

(26:08):
He was an original Planet of theApes.
Oh, OK. Yes, but he was playing one of
the apes, so I don't know if it yet if you recognized him from
that. Never mind.
And there was one more. But.
I don't bunch of Disney. Well, he was bullwhip.
Griffin, you a big bull. RIP Griffin, you a you a big
Bogle head. No, I'm.
Not all right, I I love BullwhipGriffin.
Like the theme song goes so hard.

(26:30):
I don't think you'll guess the last one so.
I'm not hot, Tessi O'Shea. No.
Was it original? No one.
No. Bruce Forsyth.
No. Forsythe.
Was it? This guy is.
Was it? Yeah, really.
Support. Character No.
All right. I give up.
It was. A Bob Holt was a hint.

(26:51):
No. Bob Hope.
Wait, Bob Hope was in this movie?
Bob. Holt.
Was it the guy that played Bookman?
No, he was. Yes, it was.
For cod fish. Yeah, it was the guy who played
Bookman. Who played Bookman?
I'm looking at Sam. Jeff, he's not.
He definitely. Did not know his name that.
Guy is super old. How?
Yeah, OK, so, so, OK, so we havethe four who do you think

(27:11):
starred in the most Disney movies.
Oh, out of all those 4? Correct.
Yes, it's the only four that starred in other Disney.
Movies, they are. They are the IMDb.
They are the four top billion people in the movie.
They're listed past the first four people.
So it's funny that they are the David.
Tomlinson was in OG Lovebug I think.
Correct. Yeah, David Tomlinson was in it
quite a bit. He's a very famous.

(27:32):
Actor So David Tomlinson. Roddy McDowell was in a
ridiculous amount, though. Disney Films.
Correct, but he was in. I want to say he was in.
This is you, not me. He was in at least three and so
if David Tomlinson were assumingwas in only those three that we
mentioned, I feel like it would be Roddy McDowell would be my

(27:52):
guess. All right, so we have Angela
Lansbury and Bedknobs and Brun 6.
He said. Beauty and the Beast.
Can you name the last movie she's been in?
And I'll give you a hint, it came out within the last 10
years. Mary Poppins Returns.
Correct. She was the balloon lady in Mary
Poppins Returns. David Tomlinson was in the three
that you mentioned. Sam Jeff and Roddy McDowell are

(28:14):
the last two. So that's probably, you know,
narrows it down. So Sam Jeff was in bed.
Knobs and Broomsticks and the Love Bug.
OK, Roddy McDowell Mags. Let's see if you can name the
four films that he was in. He was in four.
I'm not sure I'm going to say Bedknobs and Broomsticks,

(28:35):
correct. I'm going to go with Bullwhip
Griffin again, correct? You've talked you've talked
about this obscure Disney film before and you joke about it and
I think you say we're going to do the history about it.
It's. Actually, OK, OK, no, actually,
actually the two films have this, have have this.

(28:59):
No, they have the same word in the films.
So there's one word that shares the there's a.
In both films, they have the same word.
Are you like the word thaw? No, but they do have No, but no,
no, no. It's a it's an animal.
Yeah. And you're gonna, you're gonna

(29:19):
laugh once you and once you get 1, you will be able to get the
other. That darn cat.
That darn cat. Bring us, bring us home, Bring
us home because this one probably takes place.
What's? The word darn.
That cat, Cat. Cat.
It's cat. It's an animal.
Mags just talked about this before I'm pretty sure.
Or maybe I just saw it on DisneyPlus and I was like wow, that

(29:41):
looks obscure. This guy has been.
A lot probably seen it. I've probably, you probably
have. I'll give you I'll give you his
character name. May or may not help.
Doctor Frank Wilson. That does not help at.
All I have, I have Mr. Stalwood.Oh, Mr. Stalwood.
Yeah. No clue.

(30:01):
No clue. You're going to tell it to me
and I'm going to be miffed that I didn't know it.
Well, hey, I feel like I feel like.
It wouldn't 1978. Can you give me a synopsis of
the plot? A cat?
A cat? No.
For motor space, is it cat in motor space?
Yes, it is. I mean, you knew the cat

(30:24):
evolved. I don't know why.
I don't know why that helped you.
All right, let's see. So you know how we'd have the
five degrees of cat? Yeah, also, I don't know who you
keep calling mags on the channel.
Sorry, channel, you know how we have the five degrees of Kevin
Bacon? And that means like if this
person was in a movie with this person that was in a movie, that
person was in a movie with KevinBacon.
That's the five degrees of KevinBacon.

(30:46):
What's the most prominent famousDisney actor of our time?
I would say Tom Hanks. So here's the five degrees of
Tom Hanks. So they're out.
Out of the main cast, who do youthink has the least amount of
degrees closest to Tom Hanks give you here?
One person has 2°. I'm going to say the oldest guy.

(31:08):
So wait. OK, so you say Angela Lansbury
and what do you say, Alex? The oldest guy, That old guy.
The Bookman. Sam Jeff OK so both of you are
wrong. Angela Lansbury is 4°.
She voiced misses Potts and Beauty and the Beast with Jerry
Orbach. Jerry Orbach was in Crimes and
Misdemeanors with Mia Farrow. Mia Farrow was in Radio Days
with Diane West at Wiest and Diane Wiest was in Parenthood

(31:28):
with Tom Hanks. And you said Sam Jeff.
That was 5°. He was in The Day the Earth
Stood Still with Michael Rennie.Michael Rennie was in The Lost
World with Michael Guff. Michael Guff was in Sleepy
Hollow with Christina Ricci. Christina Ricci was in Small
Soldiers Great Movie with David Cross.
And then David Cross was in the Post with Tom Hanks.

(31:48):
The closest. The closest was Roddy McDowell
coming in with the sweep with our actor game Roddy McDowell.
I was in Planet of the Ace with Charlton Heston, and Charlton
Heston was in Castaway as the voice of the Phoenix Chairman in
a cameo with Tom Hanks. Didn't know Charlton Heston just
a cameo. Was cameo in Castaway.
That's crazy. Yeah, I thought that was a fun

(32:11):
one. I agree.
I like Chris. Can you do that every time we
have a movie I. I know.
Yeah, I do more. Yeah, it is fun.
I tried to do it with Walt Disney. 1st But no, we need a,
we need a hashtag degrees from Tom Hanks.
I feel like Tom Hanks is a good one just because he was in a lot
but like for older for older movies he was in like.

(32:31):
Hobbies he was in, dramas he wasin.
I mean, he's in like, you know, he's in everything.
The film Bedknobs and Broomsticks was filmed at Disney
Studios in Burbank in the early 1970.
The coastal scenes were filmed at a nearby beach.
It wasn't filming England. Nope, California.
The Nazis were in California. That's.
Crazy. Yeah, it only took 57 days and

(32:56):
then five months for animation and special effects.
A sodium vapor process was utilized for the animated
sequence on the Isle of Naboombu, giving it that very
distinctive look, much like the animation of Mary Poppins or 101
Dalmatians, things of that nature.
It's a little bit scratchy. As we said, we preferred the

(33:18):
animation styles that we saw going back to Song of the South
or ahead in the future going towards Roger Rabbit.
Yeah, Milt Call designed all of the animated characters and
became angry with his team's inconsistency when drawing them,
so he sent them a memo and required them to redraw all of
the ones that were not consistent with the original

(33:39):
drawings. OK, but it's weird because like
when you look at like when you see the the first character they
meet is a bear, you're like, oh,that's.
The fish, right? OK, sorry.
The first character they meet when they get on the island, Oh
yeah, it's a bear. And you're like, oh, that looks
like a kind of like Baloo. And then meet the lion.
You're like that kind of looks like a beefed up version of the
Lion from the Lion from Robin Robin Hood.

(34:02):
Robin Hood like King Richard. Yeah, no, not even King Richard,
the Prince just a beefed. Up version of them, right,
because of all those really in depth special effects, which by
the way, the film was nominated and I believe won an Oscar for.
I will double check that over the break here.
But the film was highly storyboarded with little room
for acting flexibility. Angela Lansbury even described

(34:25):
this film as acting by numbers. Was acting by numbers.
What does that mean? You know, like painting by
numbers, but acting right. Basically you were told what to
do, when to do it, you really couldn't move around too much.
Things like that. Oh.
OK, yeah. The film won the Oscar for Best
Special Visual Effects, nominated for five Oscars total.

(34:51):
Did they specify I? Could see why.
Part of the film they were nominated like cuz they use
special effects multiple times that film.
Now it would just be over. I thought the special effects
were amazing for the time. That was that they were they
were like really, really good. The transformations and the all

(35:11):
just all the magic in that movie.
I just thought was so well done.That's a that that was not like
that was an early movie for thatthose kind of effects.
That's one of my favorite parts of those old movies is seeing
the the old effects and how theywere able to use, you know,
whatever they used to do it because now obviously just type
it into a computer. But back then they really had to

(35:32):
be creative and make it look realistic.
And that's one of my favorite parts of movies like that, is
seeing that. Yeah, Wizard of Oz is the one
that always blows me away. Oh yeah, Wizard of Oz.
It's like, I don't understand how they did that back then.
That'd be hard for some studios to do that today.
The one of my favorite special effects in bed knobs and
broomsticks was the bed when it first turns.
Then he first turns a knob and like the the all of the lights

(35:53):
are going all throughout the themetal bed frame and everything.
And then it. I thought that was such A and.
Then when it's flying it remindsme of the boat scene from
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, but less scary.
Or Willy Wonka and the ChocolateFactory.
Sorry. That was it was really bad, but
I feel like for the time it was fine like it was just like it

(36:14):
looked like they just turned on like thermal imaging or
something so they. Used that same thing in Darby
O'gill and the Little People when they did.
Oh, you are a big Darby head, aren't you?
Yeah, I'm a big Darby head. And yeah, they use that same
thing. When they had like the ghost
scene, they had a ghost carriage.
They did the same exact thing. The runtime of the film.
If you guys thought the current 2 hour runtime was too long, the

(36:34):
original runtime was 141 minutes.
I can't do that math. It's an extra 20 minutes, 20.
Minutes, dude, it was too. It was way too long, way too
long. Like 2 hour movies come out now
and people think they're long back then what?
Yeah, they do. People think 2 hour movies are

(36:55):
too long. Yeah.
OK. I can't imagine back then a two
hour film. How about people once thought?
See a patch roll is like 5 hoursbro.
I don't. Even know what that is?
That's a that's that's a person from history bro.
That's not a film. On with the Wind was like 3

(37:15):
hours 45 minutes. That was a two-part film.
No, it wasn't. Yeah, that's how I always
watched it. Because they have to fit on two
different VHS tapes. Exactly.
Two parties is the same thing. They did the same Titanic 3
hours 15 minutes. Lawrence of Arabia was 3 hours,
42 minutes. Jesus, that's crazy.

(37:37):
There's nothing. Now, the film was intended to be
premiered at the Radio City Music Hall, but they had some
kind of random show around it, and because of that, they needed
the film to be under 2 hours. So they removed 23 minutes from
the film, which included three whole songs, including the song

(37:58):
that we mentioned earlier. Step in the right direction, OK?
There was also a song removed that was called With a Flair,
which was supposed to be sung byAmelius Brown as he was
performing more horrible magic tricks.
There was an entire subplot about the priest played by Roddy
McDowell, who we talked about. He was apparently vying for the

(38:20):
love of Angela Lansbury's character as well, and that was
entirely cut from the film. He only appears in like a minute
now. Yeah, he's like in, he's like
barely in the film. Which is surprising because he
was kind of a big name around the time, like he was a pretty
significant B tier actor. I mean, the fact that I
recognized him and I was like, why do I recognize this person?
And he's only like a minute of it.

(38:40):
Yeah, he has like maybe a line, which is kind of crazy all
things considered. There are additionally portions
of the song Eglintine were cut and somehow portions from the
song Portobello Rd. were cut. That's right, Portobello Rd. was
originally long version we had. Yes, the dancing scene was a
longer than it origin that it. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
What countries did they cut out of it?

(39:03):
I think there was like transitions between the dance
sequences and things like that. The film would be released in
December of 1971. Then the film would be reissued
in 1979 and 20 more minutes of the film would be cut.
So maybe that's the version thatAlex wants.
For the 25th anniversary in 1996, Scott McQueen, who was the
manager of Disney's library restoration, decided to attempt

(39:24):
a project to restore the original version, the uncut
version of Bedknobs and Broomsticks.
His grandson made it pretty big in Disney Lightning.
Some of those pieces were able to be obtained or remade, but
many others were entirely unrecoverable, including all of
the scenes of Angela Lansbury singing Step in the Right

(39:46):
Direction. They only have the demo version
and had to overlay music and effects on it.
Ultimately though, Lansbury and McDowell re dubbed some parts.
The entire subplot of Roddy McDowell was brought back in as
well, and the new version of. Bedknobs and Broomsticks
Restored as much as it could be,would be released and premiered

(40:07):
in 1996 with Lansbury, McDowell,Ward, Kimball, and the Sherman
Brothers present, which I think is kind of a cool little reunion
there. That is cool.
That is cool. The film itself cost $6.3
million to make. It would originally make it 8
and a half, $1,000,000 at the box office, although I found

(40:28):
another number saying that over time it's made $17.9 million.
Has trouble finding that source there though.
Yeah, I saw the same thing. And I was wondering, I was like,
I wonder if it was better if they would have made a sequel
like they like, did they plan onmaking a sequel?
Because you said that there was a second book, so maybe they
would have made a sequel if it was better.
But then it like it didn't do terrible, but then it just

(40:48):
wasn't. I don't think it was deemed as
an amazing success. Are knobs and broomsticks 2
electric boogaloo? Or like the book was the title?
Well, the book had broomsticks in it.
Fire broomsticks was it? There was the magic bed knob and
there was bonfires and broomsticks, so they could have
done the magic bonfires. The magic bonfires, yeah.

(41:12):
Like it was hard actually. Can we change our podcast name
to that The magic bonfires nicknamed back in high school?
So the film itself received a very mixed reviews at the time,
and reviewers then and even now still tend to consider it
inferior to Mary Poppins, the film that it always would and

(41:35):
still does receive an incredibleamount of comparisons to.
But taking it by itself and not comparing it to such a
masterpiece is, in my opinion, the best way to enjoy Bed Knobs
and Broomsticks to try to appreciate it on its own.
So I recommend enjoying it by not watching it.

(41:56):
But that's just me. The question that I have posed
here is, is bed knobs and broomsticks worth revisiting
today in our modern political climate?
What do you mean like remake it?No no, just re looking into it,
using its messages to help influence ourselves going

(42:17):
forward. Are there messages in it?
Yeah, yeah. Like if you ever had war with
Nazis, just call on a witch. Type that her big.
Thing or a little bit more? Vague.
Her big thing was that she wanted to have the magical
spells to stop the Nazis. So the the underlying theme that
I did like in this movie, because I did look up stuff
about this movie, I didn't make this up, was that England going

(42:38):
back to its roots to defeat the Nazis, magic and yeah, like
medieval and like magic and kindof just.
Like where did all those night suits come from?
She was in one little castle. There was like and.
Then all of a sudden there's. Hundreds of them.
In the they're from they're. Making them out and.
Then also like how are those Nazis not?
Cosmic creepers. Brains out when they saw there

(42:58):
was nobody inside those night suits.
They were, they took that they took they, they took it very.
Easy. They were like one of those
going inside. That's crazy.
Let me keep shooting these nightsuits.
What were they working on back in Germany that wasn't like that
they weren't surprised by? They must have had their own
band of witches. Everyone knows.
Captain Watch Captain America One.
Nazis. Were Brad Brad Scold was working

(43:19):
on similar stuff. Yeah, they're like, this isn't
the weirdest thing we've seen today.
Nazis were all coked up so. I want to talk about I live in a
boom Boo for a second. The animals were given the
ability to talk by Azeroth and then they went and destroyed him
and sailed away. I here's my head cannon.
OK, I love Naboombu where the animals are able to talk.

(43:42):
They my head cannon is that the animals go to the Isle of
Naboombu, right? They set up their society.
They have this mythological herothat arises Robin Hood, a
talking fox. Then they develop a society
becomes Zootopia. And in the world of Zootopia,
Chicken Little takes place. I think it's all connected.
It's all because of Azeroth. I love naboombu.

(44:03):
So so Island of Nabooboo is likethe continent of which all these
places take place on. That's that's that's my head cat
in here. So it's the continent of
Nabooboo. The Isle of Nabooboo have.
We well, it's a continent, have we?
Said those continent. OK.
Yeah, sure, sure. Let's ask Ryan.
Oh also, by the way, I forgot tomention this beginning Ryan's
not here this week. I I do have to say this, do you,

(44:24):
you know of of. Soccer scene, Is that what
you're about to talk about? No, it's before the soccer
scene, you know, obscure film. I know you can't fly on a bed or
a broom or and there's, you know, magic.
But the part of the movie that made me the most angry because
it just didn't make even film logic, was when they go into the

(44:49):
water and they can, yeah, and talk.
And I, I don't know why that. I don't know why it bothered me
so much that they are now just existing underwater.
I'm like, come on. I think the talking fish didn't
bother me at all, but the fact that they can breathe and talk
under the water really bothered me.
The fact that the fish was smoking a cigar underwater with

(45:12):
smoke and everything did not bother me.
But the fact that these humans were existing on there, yeah,
bothered me. I love.
Beautiful, Brian. You see, that was a really, that
was a cute sequence. They win the award.
Then you have the soccer sequence, which people say is
too long. They won the award made no
sense. It was so odd.
It's. Fun.
Yeah, When they got the award, Ithought I missed something.

(45:32):
It's. Fun.
I thought it was random when thekid kid started calling him dad
but I was like oh are they orphans?
I didn't realize that too. That was pretty.
Random I I they were orphans they mentioned in the beginning
but. OK, I missed that.
I also started with at like 11:00 PM last night.
So that was odd. But I guess they got adopted.

(45:55):
Good for them. All right, You guys want
anything else you want to say onthe animated part?
Yeah, it was too long. We.
Enjoyed it we enjoyed. It I don't think it was that
bad. I just thought the soccer game
was a little weird. It was definitely like, I don't
know, it was just. It was very silly, so.
There's a lot of this is very similar to Symphony.
It was the same thing repeated over and over, just like the

(46:15):
music in all the songs, which istoo.
It was like just a minute too long all.
Right. Let me ask you guys this.
If Bed Knobs and Broomsticks wasrepresented at the Disney parks,
which it surprised me that there's not at least some kind
of Easter egg out there, if it was represented, what kind of
ride would you build for Bed Knobs and Broomsticks?
Where would it go and what wouldthe ride be?

(46:39):
It could be like a soaring type ride where you are on the bed
the bed. I like that.
I like that. A lot over this London and
stuff. So I you know what?
No, scratch that. It could be like a Peter Pan
ride. A dark ride.
So instead of being on the ship in the Peter Pan ride, you are
on the bed. I like that a lot, actually.

(47:02):
That's a fantastic idea. I don't know that I could beat
that. What do you have to say, Chris?
Yeah, my first thing whenever there's like a corny ride, like
I think dark rides always the best way to go, but I do it in
the style of Mr. Toad instead of.

(47:23):
Still the bed. It has to be the bed has.
To be the bed. Can.
You imagine you start before youstart going, you see the the
like they have a kid sits up front who has to turn the little
bed dump and it starts glowing. That'd be really cool.
Yeah, then. Instead of instead of like Mr.
Toad, instead of ending in ending up in hell, we end up in

(47:44):
the Isle of LA. Boom boom.
Yeah. I just imagine this was a nut.
This was a hit and everyone runsaround Disney park with a knob
from a bed. That'd be amazing.
Can you? Imagine.
Instead of selling magic wands like at Universal, they sell
magic. Bed knobs.
It could do spells around the park with.

(48:04):
I'd love that. I mean, I'll go slightly
different just to not copy you guys.
I'd say a flume ride would be kind of fun, where you're
soaring on the bed, floating along, and then you go down.
You're in the beautiful briny sea portion.
So we really love the bedknob part of Bedknob and Broomsticks.
Yeah, we kind of skipped over the Broomstick.

(48:25):
All right, here's a game. It's going to be a pretty quick
game I've got for you guys here.I'm going to give you some
lyrics from one of the three songs from Bedknobs and
Broomsticks, either Portobello Rd.
Beautiful Briny Sea, or Substitutionary Locomotion.
All you have to do is tell me which of the three songs is the
lyric come from. I'm going to give you guys a

(48:47):
lyric. Tell me what you want.
It's from what A chance to get abetter peep at the plants.
Whoever answers 1st, I got it. But the correct answer.
We're going to start with Alex here.
Beautiful brightness sea. That is correct Sea.

(49:10):
What a chance to get to better peep at the plants and creatures
of the deep. All right, I had to look up to
see if that guy was in Monty Python.
It sounds like always look. Around.
The I know what it. Sounds like the very.

(49:30):
I know, I know, but it sounds like the same style.
OK, OK. I love that song.
It's so good I listen to it. I also love it when I shouldn't
a. Great song.
Universe song? What song?
The universe. Event song to Big Bang Theory.
No, the Galaxy song I'm. Talking from meaning of life,

(49:55):
yeah. Yes.
So weird, so feared, yet wonderful to see.
That's going to be the locomotive song.
It's so weird, so weird, yet wonderful to see Substitutionary

(50:16):
Locomotion come to me. Catchy.
When did that song take place inthe film?
I'm not. Recalling when she performs the
substitutionary locomotion spellnear the end.
It's near the end. Of.
The it's like about an hour and a half in.
That's the middle of the film. No, I'm just talking.
That's we also didn't talk aboutthe the greatest naming of a pet

(50:37):
in all of movie history. Yeah, that's a crazy.
But she didn't name it. He came with that name.
Yeah, that was a very funny line.
And another very funny line in this movie was, man, he said
something about long ears. And she's like, well, if you
don't stop talking, you will. Or something like that because
she keeps turning into her that.Was funny.

(50:58):
That was very funny. Yeah.
A cute movie. I can't believe he would do that
rabbit face scrunch up thing. It's crazy.
All right, here we go. I went to Juilliard.
Two beneath of the blue could even fall in love.
Me. OK, that.

(51:20):
Was close. Think I'm going to give it to
Alex. I think I heard Alex first.
Beautiful, Brian. See.
It is in a deed far from the frenzy of the.
Frantic world above. Two beneath the blue could even
fall in love. Can we talk about the fact that

(51:42):
they're not really singing in this movie, ever?
They're just talking in melody, like they're not really.
Singing point. It's a good point.
They can't really sing. Exactly.
Definitely the. That's why it sounds like the.
Guy. The guy can definitely not sing.
Yeah, but that was the case of Mary Poppins, too.

(52:04):
Julie Andrews. Julie Andrews can sing.
No, I mean for David Tomlinson. For.
Like, well, yeah, but he didn't.He wasn't a lead.
He wasn't a lead in the movie. He was.
He was like #3 on the billing. Right, but he wasn't the lead,
he wasn't in the majority of thesongs.
Only one precise solution is thekey, substantially locomotion

(52:26):
the convolution. Only one precise solution is the
key substitutionary locomotion. It must be.
Alex is running away with that. She can, I think it.
Back she can sing. He can't.
Correct. And in order when they sing
together, she has to get down onhis level, unfortunately.

(52:48):
Fair, that's true. A lady will always feel dressed
a la Mood. Hey, Portobello Rd.
Oh, that's got to be. I think Alex was first.
Too long there. Just say the word Chris.
Lady will always feel dressed infridge.
She. Finds in the Portobello Rd.

(53:10):
Isn't Portobello a mushroom? Yes, definitely.
Kinda rat. Reminds me of the Witch's Road.
Down down, down, down the road down.
Portobello. Portobello.
I like it. I like it.
You a big Portobello head, Chris?
Yeah. I actually love a good
Portobello mushroom. Really great.
Great meat substitute during thelent.

(53:31):
Not like mushrooms on Fridays. I haven't had a Portobello
mushroom in a while, but I remember liking them.
It tastes like. Tastes.
Once I had mushrooms I liked it.Tastes like cosmic creepus.
You, you ate cat. It's a cat, you.
Said the name. Earlier, I don't remember that,
I'm sorry. Ink we're rather odd.

(53:54):
It's fun to promenade. Oh, that's gotta be the
Portobello. Portobello Rd.
You are incorrect. Oh, cuz that's what I would have
guessed too. Cuz of the promenade.
Promenade, I'm gonna say substantial locomotion.
And I'm going to say briny C. Can't say it again you.

(54:14):
Can't say a second there. Someone has to.
Be What if the octopus, the flounder?
Dang it, it is substantial locomotion.
It's fun to promenade bobbing along singing a song on the
bottom of the beautiful briny C.She's actually a good singer, so

(54:34):
I will not accept any more disses against Dame Angela
Lansbury. All right, well.
Did Chris get that point? No, nobody got the point.
Alex won four to one. Let's go then.
What's the .4 to 1? I only got 1 right?
1. Give me the last one though, all
right? Let's pull up the Epcot map.
Alex has won the bed of Epcot. How's my creepus?

(54:58):
You guys are rude. We need to start whenever we
hear me, whenever we want to swear on the show, instead of
swearing, we say cosmic creepus from here on out.
Really funny. Cosmic creepus.
Do you hear that? I think it's the Garmins.
And now it's time for the more you know.

(55:20):
And here's your host, Giles Garmin.
Hello there, Giles. Garmin here.
And I'm joined by my brother Gerald.
I ain't bosmic creepus, so how am I doing here?
I'm I am joined by my brother Gerard.
Hey, don't be saying that. That's not nice.

(55:41):
And we're here to talk about every Easter egg in bed.
Knobs and broomsticks are we? Because I haven't received
anything to tell me anything about anything.
That's because there are no Easter eggs, Bed knobs and
broomsticks. So instead I want to ask both of
you, which character from bed knobs and Broomsticks would you
most want to meet in the parks? My favorite character was Mr.

(56:02):
Joe because I want to be a priest when I grow up.
That's very, very nice, Gerald. No, it's not.
For all the sins I've. Committed.
Wait, Mr. What? What'd you say, Mr. Joe?
Mr. Joe. That's.
My uncle I would want to. He's in jail for Arseny.

(56:25):
I would love, honestly, I would love to meet David Tomlinson.
I think. I think he's a fantastic actor.
I would love to shake his hand. I heard he had a grandson that
went on to play the NFL. Big Chargers fan.
I personally think it would be very fun to meet the king, the
lion or the bear. I'm sorry but that was fake.

(56:47):
It was animation. That's all for me, Giles,
Garmin. Cosmic.
Creepers. So, Alex, what'd you do in the
world of Disney? What?

(57:08):
Yeah. What?
What did you do in the world of Disney?
You heard me. Yeah, I felt bad.
I I did just for, for for chat. I am continuing to watch Iron
Heart with Emily and we're very much I haven't.
Started yet? It's a.
Very enjoyable show It's it's just a fun show like it's the
the special effects are better than most of the movies they've
come out with recently, so I'm enjoying it.
I. Was.
Yeah, it's fine. It's and I did get a little Boo

(57:31):
Boo. I like when she's in the suit.
I love women in suits. I can't wait to see Borat.
You have to wait until the last episode.
I love, I love the the Phillip from Hamilton.
He's great. Oh yeah, he's fantastic.

(57:51):
He's really. Good in it?
Yeah, he's great in it. But yeah, I'm really enjoying
Iron Heart. It's just a fun show and I am
playing Marvel Snap again, whichhas been fun.
That's. A fun little interesting bit
that I just found out too. How long have you been playing
without telling me? Last week.
Last week. That's crazy, they took us long
to tell me. I know I I got tickets to see

(58:14):
Fantastic Four on release day, which you talked.
About Fantastic Four and where to find them, I like.
It I'm not going to see it in the end, but I can't wait to see
it when it comes to. Disney Plus.
I'm planning seeing it opening day but not opening at night.
I'll never see the. Podcast on Thursdays.
Yeah, I'll be seeing it at 5:30,so I will be back unless I want
to see it again, then I won't beback.

(58:36):
Or I get too drunk at the Applebee's.
What? Day is it released?
The 21st, I think it is 21st. The 20th.
Somewhere around there, it's the24th.
I. Maybe I'll try to see it like
early on the Thursday as well. I'll see what I can do.
Before we came out, it'd. Be fun to chat about it like
spoiler free or something. Yeah, yeah.
Before I came out here, I was watching, I was watching Teen

(59:04):
Beach movie, which is great. Which which one?
The first one. No like which Teen Beach movie?
That's the title. What?
The title is Teen Beach movie. That's a stupid name for a
movie. It's not a stupid name for a
movie. You got back.
Sorry, it's a cosmic, creepous, stupid name for a movie.

(59:24):
No, it's a great name because they go into a Teen Beach movie.
That's the whole premise of the film.
I don't know what that means. What?
What would a Teen Beach movie belike?
Is that a stereotype in Teen Beach movies?
Especially since the Teen Beach movie we talked about was based
off of movies that were only the50s and 60s.
OK, that's why I don't know it mags.

(59:45):
You should be very familiar. That's never really been my
style of film to watch. I I like this movie.
I love the music. It's the same people who created
Descendants and High School Musical.
Ortega. Yeah.
So it's a, it's a really. Great, I love how you just refer
to the guy by his last name. That's my favorite.
He he, he is amazing. All the stuff he does is gold.

(01:00:08):
And TV movies is The songs in itare great.
The premise is good. It's a great movie actually.
It's very funny and Teen Beach movie 2 kind of a drop off.
But not what are you what are you Ryan Teen Beach movie is a.
Great. Movie hush Teen boots movie 2013

(01:00:28):
six out of 10 on on IMDb which. Basically the same there with
nubs and bricks. Yeah, so I went to Washington,
DC for the 4th of July 0. That's right.
Just this past weekend they had it was pretty crowded.
But the nice thing about like the National Mall is it's so big

(01:00:50):
that even though there's a lot of people, it doesn't feel like
you're packed in, which is really nice.
You can't. Be packed in.
It's outside. Exact packed together I should
say, because there is a specificarea where they want you to
stand. So fireworks.
Best fireworks I've ever seen. Better than anything Disney's
ever done in my opinion. Which you'd expect, right?
I hope so. Nation's Capital on the 4th of

(01:01:11):
July. The first song they played as it
was starting was the Captain America theme, which was kind of
cool to hear. The Captain America theme while
watching 4th July fireworks in DC and you.
Know what Max thought? He goes.
Thank God because now I can tella story on the podcast.
Well then I went to the NationalMuseum of American History which
is part of the Smithsonian. They had the Ruby slippers from

(01:01:34):
Wizard of Oz. Not directly Disney, but great
movie ride connection. Then I saw C3PO and R2D2
costumes from Return of the Jedi.
There's Miranda. Yep.
Somehow, somehow I saw Lin Manuel Miranda's costume.
Original costume from Hamilton. I saw some old Mickey Mouse and

(01:01:57):
like Mouseketeer ear merchandise.
Tangentially Disney. The original Bert and Ernie
Muppets were there. The original Indiana Jones coat,
hat and whip were there. That's cool.
Cosmic Creepus is a lot of stuff.
Great movie ride connection withthe egg from Aliens.

(01:02:17):
Bill Nye's coat and bow tie werethere.
I'm hearing a lot of stuff that are kind of connected to Disney.
Oh, Nye was Disney. It was Captain America.
Winter Soldiers Shield was there.
The one that made me most excited was probably outside of
all the presidential stuff, of course, which you know, isn't

(01:02:38):
really Disney, but I adore the original Fozzie Bear muppet or
one of the original Fozzie Bear Muppets who was in the same case
as the Muppet first ever Muppet character from Sam and friends,
which we talked about before. It was and I I think I posted
that his name was Sam. It actually wasn't.
It was Wilkins because he was running Wilkins coffee.

(01:03:02):
He looks, he looks sort of like AI mean, not a fish.
He just looks, it's kind of likea like a sheep, but it was
really cool seeing that there, especially since we've made all
those jokes about salmon friends.
Yeah, I thought it was another joke.
I did not realize it was actually from.
I thought you were just joking when you heard.
No, it's actually the puppet from Salmon Friends, which was

(01:03:22):
so funny to me to see that in person.
That's pretty cool. So I had a wonderful time.
No, I I think not. Ultimately though, Washington DC
in my opinion, best city and that I've ever been to.
It's up there. It's definitely up there.
That museum is really, really great.
So that museum mags fun story about that.

(01:03:43):
There was it was 15 minutes to closing.
So we went to it's we're in the gift shop and we're seeing all
this merchandise there with thislike square battered up beaten
American flag. And we're like, what is this?
Oh my God. From.
The Star Spangled Banner. Yeah, I was like, so this hat,
so I so I went to I found a bookof the museum and I went over

(01:04:03):
and and I looked up to I was like, I just realized that the
star cycled banners. I was like the star cycled
banners at this museum. Like we have to find it.
It's so easy to find, it's rightthere.
Yeah, so we so we power walked over to it.
It's pretty cool because we werethe only two people in the dark
room there. That's so it's pretty.
It was a pretty cool moment, yeah.

(01:04:25):
And did. You cosmic creep us over there.
For people who don't even like museums, you could get enjoyment
out of that one. You know what?
For people who don't even like museums, bye son.
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