iNTO THE FRAY 501: One Ring to Bind Them

Isaac of the Hidden in the Shadows podcast joins me to discuss his very unique ability when it comes to not only demonic entities, but dark human spirits as well.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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chance or design, man has inherited out of the dark
mystery of time and face?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Are we living in a multiverse with other dimensions all
around us? What if the encounters reported by people on
podcasts like Into the Fray are true? What if there's
bleed through? What if there are creatures and entities crossing
over into our world all the time? Who could protect us?
This is the premise of Project Threshold, a series of novellas.

(01:30):
Project Threshold is about a secret group who walks in
the shadows, standing against malevolent beings in order to keep
us safe. Both darkhorror and sci fi jump in with
three different teams of agents as they keep back the darkness.
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(01:50):
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(02:12):
dot com. On this edition of Into the Fray, I
welcome Isaac on with me, and he is one of
their creators and hosts, along with his wife Megan, of
the Hidden in the Shadows podcast, And he got in
touch after I put a plea video out on Instagram

(02:32):
and he said, Hey, I have an encounter for you,
an experience for you, if you'd like to hear it,
and of course I said yes, so, Isaac, thank you
so much for joining us.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Hey, the problem.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
So I know absolutely nothing about your story, your encounter,
or your experience, which, as I briefly mentioned before we
officially started, I love that is my absolutely favorite thing.
But before we get to that, I would like to
to know, of course, a little bit about you and
your wife's podcast, Hidden in the Shadows. When did it start,

(03:07):
what's the format, what kinds of things do you guys cover?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Hidden the Shadows was born at the pandemic, like a
lot of podcasts were, but after everything was back to
relatively normality, we still continued to stay on and I
think it was around in twenty twenty where we started
another podcast called Not Your Average Conversation, which I was
beginning to listen to podcasts a lot at that time,

(03:32):
and me and my wife's conversations like right before We
go to Sleep were always weird and unique, and I thought,
you know, this would be pretty cool to share out
of the world, So bought some basic podcast equipment and
started recording. Had my Megan wanted to do editing, so
she got with that. But we noticed that the episodes
that we did on the paranormal would the most listened

(03:55):
to versus edything else we talked about, so we decided
to scrap everything else, focusing strict strictly on the paranormal,
and that became our main focus, and we became hidden
in the shadows. And because between me and my wife
excuse me, we have enough experiences paranoral experiences specifically to
fill up a couple of novels from the haunted ranch

(04:17):
I lived on when I was a kid, from her
being a very talented psychic medium and being haunted her
entire life, we had enough experiences that basically the first
I would say, months of the podcast was just us
talking about them. And I always tell people that we
have experience with most things we talk about, but not
everything we talk about. That became our main thing. Now,

(04:37):
majority of the podcast is around the paranormal. Is supernatural
that we do talk about aliens, we do talk about cryptids,
and a little bit of conspiracy theories, but it's just
mainly focused on the paranormal because that's where our life is.
And we became parallel investigators through the podcast and that's it. Basically.
It took off from there and we've been doing it
for one five years now.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Regrets on that it's it's a labor of love. I
know how that goes. And also the five years it
does go quickly, right like, but when you look back,
you're like, holy crap, that's already five years of this.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, well, because you're always doing something like you're always
looking forward to the next week, the next episode, the
next interview, so it's always you're always looking forward, so
they never it always feels like it's you know, time's
moving faster than it's supposed to be. But ever since
September of that same year, things changed dramatically for me

(05:34):
and the wife because it wasn't even until October that
year became Paramel Investigators officially going out and doing investigations.
But this is the part of the story that I
always tell people that I can almost guarantee you've never
heard about before. In September of twenty twenty, my ability,
which is yet to be one hundred percent defined, came

(05:56):
to me or woke it in me wherever you want
to look at it. I sentially had started in my hands.
And what was happening is that I started getting this
teenling sensation, kind of the same sensation you get in
your hand fall asleep, starting in the center of my
palm and spreading out my fingertips, and I couldn't figure
out what was going on. And then I remember I
reached out one time I could feel it and with

(06:19):
my left hand, and my wife, of course being very
talented psychic medium, and she is knew there was a
spirit there. She's, oh, it's something over you can feel like, yeah,
I could feel it. So then I figured out, oh,
this is like a natural EMF detector, like I can
feel the energy of spirits around me. And then, of course,
through time in learning to differentiate which hand means want,

(06:40):
so I figured out that my left hand when it charges,
I call that sensation of tingling or whatever I call
it charging. When my left hand charges it's something on
the positive spectrum, a spirit human, but with my right
hand charges something dark, something evil, something the negative side
of the spectrum of the paranormal. But that was the
early stage of it. It was just feeling around. Then it

(07:00):
evolved to me actually pulling that energy into myself, like
grabbing it and causing a vacuum with my hand, and
an energy would filter into me, and then when it
would leave, it felt like a chill running up my
spine and out of a breath, like oh, that it
would leave. But that action of pulling and filtering and

(07:22):
releasing started taking a toll on me and actually started
aging the right side of my face, my hair on
my head, and my beard started turning prematurely gray. So
she's like, you gotta figure a new way to do this.
It's like this has taken a toll. And at the
time of the paranorl team we were part of. One
of the guys named Mike. He became my mentor. Granted
he didn't know anything about my ability, had no idea

(07:44):
this could even exist or any of these such scenarios,
but he helped me in the guidance of becoming more
on the spiritual side learning to meditate, looking to look
through my third eye, giving contact my spirit GUIDs that
kind of side of the stuff. Because he is a
well seasoned medium, but also with the idea of the
spiritual world. So he kind of helped me in that sense.
But he had a vision of the King Solomon symbol

(08:08):
on King Solomon's ring. He didn't know what it was.
He just drew that symbol posted in the group chat
says anyone seen this before? And also at the time,
we had a Jewish member part of the team, and
he instantly recognized it as King Solomon's symbol. And I
remember the stories about King Solomon told in the three
Abrahamic faiths all saying the same story. Though Islam says

(08:28):
seventy gen Judaism and Christianity say seventy demons that King
Solomon imprisoned in his ring. Then he used to build
his temple using somatic magic. So with that in mind,
I was like, well, let me, let me try. It
was the only guy in history he was able to
do what I'm kind of doing. Now, let me see
if I can use that. So I bought a King Solomon,

(08:50):
a replica ring, nothing special to steel and silver and
I bought enough for my pinky and I did a pull.
I grabbed the energy and then I said into the
ring and the energy was gone. It didn't filter, I mean,
it didn't feel like it usually did. So where did
it go? Just kept doing that over and over again.
And just to be clear, I only only ever pull

(09:11):
negative energy. I don't pull you know, positive energy or
people stuff like that. It feels cruel to do so.
But negative energy now, I show no quarter to them.
But it kept doing that, that pulling and putting that
energy into the ring, over and over again, to a
point where my wife started hearing screaming and yelling and
swearing coming from the ring, and she was like, oh
my god, what's going on? And I'd just explained what

(09:32):
was doing it, and so she channeled into the ring
to see what's going on, and to her, it looked
like a giant prison cell by all these like shadowy
dementor things flying around and hitting the walls, unable to leave,
And it essentially is a prison because every dark entity
that I've come across and I've pulled and put into
that ring has been able to leave. Nothing has been

(09:54):
able to escape, which, funny enough, gave it its name
because I was asked one time does the ring have
a name, And at the time I was like, no,
I just kept calling the ring. But after I thought
about it a little bit, I decided to call it
cienda fergo, which is Latin for no escape, because nothing
ever leaves that thing when I put something in there.

(10:15):
But the interesting about the ring itself is that you
would think by the practice, what I'm doing is creating
a haunted object. But the ring itself does not influence
people around us. It's haunted objects as we know them,
influence people around wherever they're around. They can cause haunting's
nightmare or stuff like that. You just have one demon
attached to adult, like Annabel, for example, everything around it

(10:39):
starts getting tormented, but at last or poor at last
count I think I have one hundred and seventy six
confirmed demons in that ring, just one alone to cause
this house to be insane. But yet we experience nothing
this Everyone here is fine. You would never know who's
in here, So it's not a haunted And what is it.

(11:01):
My best guess is that it acts like access point
to another dimension, another world, a pocket dimension, you could say,
where all these things can be housed but can never leave.
But yeah, and that one hundred and seventy six count
demon thinking probably what just to be Not to sound nicgotistical,
cocky at all, just a matter of fact, everything that

(11:24):
I've come across, every entity that I pulled, has been
able to stop me, not one. Granted, a lot of
them put up a fight, and a lot of them
calls me physical pain. But it all ends the same
way with every single thing I've taken. But learning to
look through my third eye, I figured out that it
wasn't essentially a vacuum that I was creating. There were

(11:47):
strings of energy leaving my fingertips and firing out and
wrap around the entity like Boe constrictor wreathing and condensing
The energy in that about the size of a ball
in my hand therefore, or that's the energy as into
the ring. And this practice of the pulling and investigating,
I have, like I said in prison, about one hundred

(12:08):
and seventy six of them, along with a longer list
laundry list of other dark entities that I've taken as well,
and I have lost counts of how many dark human
entities I've come across that or in that ring as well.
So if it wasn't a haunted object, it'd be considered
the most haunted object in the world. But it's not,
so I can't hold that title above my head. But yeah,

(12:32):
it was strings of energy that I was pulling in
and then of course this attention me able to do this,
got this attention on the podcast with people asking for help,
I see if I could help them, and the whole
reason they even asked for the help because I informed
everyone all through the podcast that I figured out how
to reach through a phone. Essentially, if we're facetiming or

(12:55):
Instagram message or even like how we're doing right now,
if I can physically see in real time where you
are and where I am, I can send these strings
through the phone from where I am to where you are,
regardless at the distance, and pull whatever's there from where
you are to where I am and shove it in
the ring. Essentially, it's like fourth dimensional space or folding it. Essentially,

(13:18):
if my phone is here and your phone is across
the nation, but when I pull the back to back
and I'm reaching through grabbing what's there, which has allowed
me to do fifty seven home cases in the last
four years and those home cases have been across the world.
I have helped people in Australia, China, India, Ireland, England, Portugal,

(13:38):
the Philippines, Hawaii, all across the United States, Canada and Mexico.
I have helped people with demonic oppression, with things in
their homes, you name it. I have helped people with
and that has been essentially my purpose for the last
four years. I went from nothing and no one with

(13:59):
no ability is nothing whatsoever. I'm not a psychic, noted
medium or anything of the sense, and now have become
the most dangerous person in the world for a dark
entity because I don't have to be I don't have
to do spells, I don't have to do prayers, I
don't have to use ma I don't have to use anything.
I just have to be in the room with it,

(14:20):
either physically or someone has a phone or camera, and
it's done. It's over with, and once it's gone, it's gone.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, you're right. I don't think I have ever heard
anything like this before. Okay, So I do have questions.
I was drotting them down if you do not mind. Okay,
So you know the old adage that to have any
kind of a power over a demon, Normally you need
to know its name. Do you need to know or
find out the demon's name before you pull it into
the ring?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, that is quite helpful because I know that you
know that we've heard that a lot, right, Like, that's
the old adage about the D word. You need to
you need to learn their names a lot of the times. Okay,
so if you got another ring, do you think that
you could do the exact same thing. Start filling that
one up too.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
It doesn't get full. Someone asked me that one time.
Can the ring ever get full? It's like, no, that's
probably gonna add more questions to your list. But so
what any My ability keeps evolving, evolving. It seems every
time I met with a challenge, it evolves to meet
that challenge, and that exceeds past it every single time.
But one of the interesting things that I was able

(15:38):
to do is that if I were in the beginning,
I would have to take your right hand, I would
hold it and I could see into your mind force,
which the mind forest is the subconscious part of your
mind where all your darkness dwells, your trauma, your your hatred,
everything that you've consciously or subconsciously buried, and your mind
is there in the mind forest, and everybody's mind forwars

(15:58):
is different from the time of day, from the foliage,
from the trees. I've seen countless mind forests. I actually
have done more mind force clearings that actually done the investigations.
So a lot of people just call me up say hey,
can you clear my mind force ring. I'll pull it
and stuff like that. So I would have to take
your right hand hold it and I could see into
your mind force, and then I could pull the negative

(16:19):
energy out of your mind force through your hand and
then put it in the ring. But I don't have
to do any more because like the person, I can
reach the phone and I can just send my tendrils
into your head and then pull the energy out. But
when I figured out that I can do that, when
I pulled a negative energy out your head or your
mind forced, your main spirit guy came forward and not
your only spirit guid your main spirit guy. Like if

(16:40):
someone would do this to me, they we met with
an astag jaguar warrior name Azoul. But that's my main
spirit gun. But for other people, I have talked to
a kaleidoscope of different spirit unds, from gunslingers, from vikings,
from nights, from doctors, from dancers, from from ballerinas, a

(17:00):
skater kid who died in the two thousands, that actual
Samoan Island are from the actual Iso Samoa, just you
name it I have. It's like everyone and everyone has
something specifically different. And the only thing I ever figure
out by all this information I've gathered is that if
you have a fighter or warrior for a spirit guide,

(17:21):
you're gonna be a lot of conflict in your line.
But that's the only that guy I've ever been able
to figure out. The peril investigators I've talked to have
warriors and fighters for spear GUIDs, So I guess going
into battle to supernatural you kind of need that. But
that ability of seeing mind forest allowed me to go
into the ring and see what it looks like in there,

(17:42):
and what it looks like in there is if you
can imagine a forest act, they were a nuclear blast.
All the trees are black and burnt, the sky is overcast,
the ground is covered in dirt, mud and ash and
everything in there. All the entities are different size shadow figures.
Some have horns, some don't. They're all screaming and yelling

(18:02):
just kind of piste off essentially that they're there. But yeah,
inside there, the world looks endless, like regardless of how much,
because I've already put well enough stuff in there, and
that's just a demon count. Like I said, I've lost
kind of human entities I put in there, and it
does never seem to be full like it always I
can add more and every time I go in there,

(18:24):
Like my wife, she'll drop stuff off in there because
her remote viewability allows her to do that, and I
would have to look for it sometimes because like where
is it? And I have to like go around and
look kind of like, oh there, it is like it's
way off, like miles away and stuff like that. Like
the ring doesn't seem like place to fill up. But
the head scratcher of a question that I thought about
a while ago is that could I have done this

(18:45):
with any object? Did it have to be King Solomon Ring?
Is it the symbol on the ring that's imprisoning them
or is it me? Could it? Like I said, could
I have done this with anything? Did it have to
be the ring? I don't know, and I'm nowhere. Am
I willing to try again? Because I don't want to
try and put something in another object and it not
be stuck there. Because maybe I was always meant to

(19:08):
use the King Solomon Ring. Maybe that was always my calling.
I never look at something as coincidence or sorry, I
never look at something at just random. Everything I've always
encountered my life always seemed to happen for a reason.
At least I'm following a path and things are putting
my path to give me okay, you need to try this.
And every time I fight against that instinct or that
got feeling, I always end up messing up or going

(19:31):
around the wrong path. So that it was a strong
pull for me to use the King Solomon Ring. But yeah,
I answer that question. I I don't need to put
another one in or nor do I feel like I
need to build another kind of this device.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
So and you don't have to if you don't want
to share every detail of this, But just in general,
what's the process of pulling a demon or an evil
human spirit into this ring?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I just have to feel it, like my right hand
will charge. I will get a good feel where it
is in the second millisecond. I feel it the heaviest
when I'm reaching around my hand flexes and the grips,
and then I have it, like the tendrils faster than bullets,
like they fire out reperent entity and I pull them
in and it's a physical thing, like I'm physically lose

(20:23):
using my arm in my hand, and I can physically
feel it. Psychic mediums are light workers. They always feel
like they're pushing energy out of themselves or they're remote
viewing to location. No, I am physically doing this and
I have it in my hand, And of course I
show in the ring, which lasts about three to four
seconds from grab pull in into the ring. I never

(20:46):
counted the acts actual time. It doesn't feel longer than
about five seconds. But it's such as the process. But
I can't see them or hear them pree the ring.
Once they're in the ring, then I can talk to them.
Then I can interrogate them. Then I can get the
answers of why they were oppressing said person, where were
they around set person? Why were you falling? Why you

(21:07):
were here? All those questions I can ask after than
the ring, because I noticed once in the ring, they
have no more power. They can't attack, they can't do anything.
They're powerless in there and say, for human entities, the
strength of what I grab and how hard I have
to squeeze depends on the entity. I notice that demons

(21:29):
are a little harder. It's like almost like feels like sand
in my hand. Versus a human nity or a lower
level demon. It's almost like smoke, right, it's very vapory.
So human entities it's easy. It doesn't cause me to pain.
But the higher the ring to the demon, the harder
it is to take down. Because I've taken down some
top guys and the Lesser Keys of Solomon or the

(21:52):
I forgot the actual Latin terminology. I studied demonology for
a while now, I've read the Lesser Keys of Solomon.
I've gone through a lot of different books on your all,
trying to learn as much as I can when I
joined this world, so I educated myself the best I
can with everything that's out there.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
So as you're especially these demons, well, I guess for
both even the human spirits, as you are grabbing them
and pulling them into this ring, are they trying to
convince you to let them.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Go once they're in the ring. Yes, while I'm pulling them. No,
Like I said, I can't. I can't hear any better
than any regular person, can't. I just feel around stuff
like that. They beg they offer, they bargain, they threaten,
But no, I have no sympathy or empathy for any

(22:44):
of them demons, specifically strong hatred for them I have,
which makes me perfect for this work. But the reason
being behind that is because when my son was no
more than three months old, we set him down in
one of our bedrooms, I think her grandmother's bed, and
he was swaddled up in his little blanket, and he
would put him in the middle of the bed because

(23:05):
believing my wife first kid, she was worry worried about
is he safe, He's gonna be fine, Like, hey, he's
gonna be finding, Like I was literally down playing, Hey
he's gonna be fine. He's in the middle of the bed,
he's not gonna go anywhere. And it's panic as she is.
She put pedals all around just to walk less than
three feet into the hall so we could talk about
something while he tries to put asleep. We were in

(23:26):
the hall no more than about fifteen seconds or so,
and we hear a thud and we're like what. She
runs in there and now our son is face down
on the ground on the o other side side of
the bed, as if somebody pulled him off the bed
and dropped him on the floor, Meghan said after she
came to calm down from the situation. She said, when

(23:49):
she entered the room, she saw a black mask standing
in the corner that felt immense amount of evil coming
from it. Of course, we all know what that kind
of entity would be. So this is why I hunt them.
In a sense. It's because if something can do that
to a child that's been alive no more than three
months because it wanted to or for whatever reason, I

(24:14):
give them no quarter. I do not think too Everything
that I put in that ring has never come out.
I've never released anything I don't have the want to
do so.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
So okay, and you have to forgive. I'm sometimes big
on hypothetical questions, and this might be a very silly question.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
But let's say I don't know someone is listening to
this and their enormy. They're just into podcasts. I mean,
I even sometimes consider myself a normy in a way
because I don't have a whole lot of paranormal experiences.
I have just enough that I'm of course, I know
that that stuff's out there, and I love doing this.

(24:52):
But what if, okay, what if a normy essentially a
normy being someone that doesn't have really any normal skills
or not psychic or sensitive. That's definitely me. What if
a normy got a hold of this ring and when
you know what, I'm gonna try to get even just
one of these these bad dudes out here, because I

(25:14):
just think it would be cool, Like I just think
it'd be great. Do you think that would be something
that could be possible.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
There was a psychic medium I talked to you one time,
and she was convinced that I was using some kind
of magic to do this Abbas explaining to her, No,
I haven't even attempted to even try to use magic
or any of the essence. My wife is a small,
i say small practitioner white magic, mostly to protect us
this house, each other and stuff like that, from everything

(25:44):
we pick fights with. But it's it doesn't act like
a hanted object. So that's clue number one. That's impossible,
and it works only with energy. My ability is essentially grabbing,
really he seeing energy from myself to grab the entity,
pull the energy in and then force it into the ring.

(26:05):
And like I said, the ring acts like an access point,
so you would have to be a very powerful remote
viewer to even go in the ring. And that's another
thing too. I very very much so warned I would
try to forbid it much as I can, but I
know when that was gonna do. People do what they want,
but I would like highly recommend never go in there. Ever.

(26:28):
I put a lot of dangerous entities in there, and
they are pissed off. Not saying they're entirely powerless, but
if they wanted to keep you there, I wouldn't know
about it until I go back to the ring and
I check it maybe once a week. If I'm not
doing anything, and of course I have cases or I'm
doing helping people out, of course I'll look in there.
But it was a kid I remember when I met

(26:49):
one time who was I called him a traveler as
a kid from India who I helped out. He had
gins around him that I took care of. By the way,
I think I have five gins in that ring. Technical
classified the demons, but I don't know. But I called
him a traveler because in his dreams or moments of meditation,
he can go a lot more places and say the
average remote viewer can. And he was curious one time

(27:12):
and he went into my ring and he said the
gravity in the ring was immense. It's like he couldn't walk.
He felt like he was being pushed down on his
shoulders by the force of gravity just inside there. And
literally he could only stand to be in there for
a couple of seconds before the weight of essentially the
gravity was pushing him down into the ground. That he

(27:34):
was in there for a second and he had enough
time for him to look around for a little bit
and he basically got out of there, and he told me,
he's like, yeah, never allowed me to do that again
because I'm I'm he said, I've never felt that before.
He said He's been to a lot of places, but
he's never felt that before. So that's why I would
advise people who are not at least someone that on
our working with to go in there. So far, my

(27:56):
wife is the only person I know who can promote
you in without any kind of problems. But then again,
she's my twin flame, my other half. So if I'm
this strong with disability, of course she's just ass But no,
I don't think. And if even the most dark magic
practitioner they grab the ring by any means whatsoever, they're
never able to open it because it's like it's singular

(28:19):
to me.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Now, do you have to be holding the ring or
wearing the ring to execute this process?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
No, I've actually done it miles away. If I'm if
I have the energy and I forced it like I'm
shooting it with my hand in the direction of where
the ring is, it takes time and travels there and
goes in. And I checked it like I've been at
the store one time, walking up the target. Funny enough,
and I pulled something you standing right in front of
the building, and I sent it to the rings. I

(28:48):
didn't have it on me at the time, and I
went back and checked what it was, and it was
a dark lower let. We'll deem it and asked why
it was even doing it, and I said looking for
meat was its reply. So, yeah, does matter where you are,
sometimes you can encounter dark, very dark things. I was
in front of a target, but no, if I wear

(29:10):
it for too long of my pinky, the joint between
my I guess where I guess the finger goes into
the hands feels like, I really need to pop it,
like it's it's aching the longer I wear it, so
it does cause me physical pain just to wear on
my finger. So most of the time I carry my pocket.
When we do investigations, I'll wear it, but most of

(29:31):
the time it's in my pocket so I can just
grab and you know, send to the ring.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
So we've Isaac, if you lost this ring, would it
not really be that big of a deal because then
you could probably just do this again with another ring, right,
And no one can really bust into this thing.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I don't want to give someone that an attempt to
try it. Yeah, but I actually did drop it one
time in the my neighbor's yard. I was clearing out
a lot of her overgrown bushes and ease and grass,
and I guess I fell out of my pocket, and now, like,
where the heck is it? Of course, Meghan talented remote
view or she is found it. She looked for it

(30:08):
and it basically what she saw in hermid was the
backyard and she saw the ring emitting like a bright
white light. She knew exactly where it was, walked right
over to it, moved some leaves by the way, picked
it up and it's right there, so it can't get
lost at this point. But then again, now I make
sure I always have it on me, just just in cases.
It's probably something that's going to be passed down through

(30:29):
my children. Supposedly we were told this by other psychic
medium's friends of ours. Even Meghan has kind of seen it,
or she feels like it's going to be true. My
not yet born daughter is going to take my place.
She is technically going to be the next me, the
next shadow walker, in order to do this, and supposedly

(30:53):
she's going to be stronger than I am. So I
already explained the extent of what I can do and
imagine me stronger than that. So she's going to be
doing so it would be her responsibility in the future
to continue this kind of fight with dark entities and
keep it safe. Essentially.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Now, if you guys, are you know, going to bed
or going somewhere that you just you don't want to
take the ring? Do you keep it under locking key,
does it go on a cabinet with salt or something,
or are you guys keeping it somewhere special?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Eh I built a little box. Inside the box, I
glued a odins or odins compass like the little medallion,
almost like a coin. I glued to the roof of
the box. I drew ruins on the box. Inside the box,
I have a couple of obsidian pieces along with the
hematites beaded bracelets, and I set the ring inside that
and I close it. That's where it essentially rests. Apparently

(31:45):
it works because someone else we have been i'll say,
training helping her with her abilities getting stronger. She's able
to remote view and drop things off in the ring,
but she can't spend more than a couple of seconds
there before it starts physically hurting her, like she's remote
viewing in but she can't stay there very long, but

(32:06):
long enough that she can remote view, grab something from
somewhere and drop it off in the ring and the
disappear real fast.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
How long can you stay inside the ring like that?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
I think the longest I spin in there, it doesn't
bother me. But like as long as I spent in
there is about maybe an hour, because I was rearranging
things and building things better in there. And it's weird
that world is almost like two. It bends to my will,
like if I need like a prison or a foundation,
or even a pull up a new tree or anything

(32:36):
like that. It comes to my commands. It's strange. It's
like that world that belongs to me.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'm imagining that scene after and forgive me, I do
this also. I do a lot of movie references, but hey,
it's a good visual when people see movies. Right, So
I'm imagining the scene from Constantine after he stares at
the cat and he goes he goes down to to
he's with the demons and it's like all smoky and
it's real kind of shitty down there, right, there's all

(33:06):
these nasties. Now he's not doing what you just said
that you were doing. It's not exact, but I'm just
like imagining this world where there's just all these things
crawling around and you're just trying to make it to
where you're making sure they're not going anywhere, and they're
not having a good time down there? Is that kind
of sort of along those lines?

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Is that so fiery? It's more smoky, Like imagine a
world of black and white and gray, like there's any
colors that are in there? Yeah, I've never seen color.
The only thing that's any kind of lighter color is
the stone or marble tablets or kind of big old giants.
I would say it's about ten feet by five feet slab,

(33:48):
that's right. And right when I enter the ring, there's
a s little marble slab that I put there because
everything that I pushove into the ring lands at the
same spot every single time. So for a scare tactic
for everything that goes in there, I carved into that
that slab abandoned all hope ye who enter here? And

(34:10):
if you know anything about that phrase, that is the
phrase that's supposed to be written above the gates of Hell.
So everything that goes into that ring the second there
in that they land and they're going to where am I?
They look down and they read that, and they are
immensely terrified, and which makes interrogating them get or arrogating

(34:31):
information out of them a lot easier. They're more easy
to give it up. Why do they have their name?
All that stuff? But yeah, it's it's more smoke like.
It smells like ash like, it smells like someone like
put out a campfire, and that's what you kind of
smell like that that burning wood or burning just everything
kind of smoke smell.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I mean, do you feel like if you're having a
conversation with a demon, whether it's one of the big
boys or one of the lessers, that they're ever going
to tell you the truth.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
That's why I get it out of the I don't
allow them to lie, and I put them through enough
pain that they want to tell me. Granted, they don't
share much information, but they do share pieces, and I've
learned a lot, at least about the why they do it.
In what they are entity is born of darkness and evil.

(35:21):
That's what they are. And one thing I learned, too,
is that what they look like. And granted I've talked
to one hundred and seventy of them, but the higher
the rank, the more designs they have in their flesh.
It's almost like it's carved or branded in their skin.
And I noticed that if they're guys, like there's top
tier guys, they have more. Lower tier guys they don't

(35:42):
have any or they barely have. It's like it was
like tattoos, Like I guess, the higher you are a
rank in a game, the more tattoos you have. That
kind of works the same, but it's almost like carving,
I branded or carving into their flesh. And the flesh
is like like blacking, like I don't know, weird texture
on that oil, but it looks sticky if you touched it.

(36:02):
Some have horns, some don't. Some look like animals, some
like a ruttic humans. And they don't sound like your
death metal stream or anything like that, because I'm a
big fan of death metal and death worn, like very
heavy metal. But I've never talked to any of them
who sound like that. Some actually sound like if wood
or rocks or the wind or like elements of this
earth could talk. It's like if they're speaking and they

(36:25):
have that an accent of nature behind them. It's very strange.
It's a hard thing to describe. And of course sound
more sound like whispers. Some have like a very deeper voice.
Some try to atimidate, but that's essentially what they look
like and what they sound like. And yeah, I've been
threatened consistently, someone say only kill your children, blah blah
blah blah, And you know, one swift swipe of my

(36:47):
tendrils to one of their legs and it's gone. So
it's these tendrils of my have liveless power in that ring.
Hence why I'm allowed to get information out of them.
But the reason behind why they press people is the
most common is because they're addicted to our negative emotions.
Our negative emotions are like a drug to them. And

(37:09):
the more torment they put us through, the more depression,
the more angry, and more sadness, all our negative emotions.
The more they can get out of us, the more
the addiction high you give them, and they love it,
and that's why they get so violent to those people
who try to tear them away from their addiction, and
they put up a fight. It's you know, anybody here
ever talked upon the exorcism or been in the house
where they try to shove a demon out. Things get

(37:32):
very we call it get basically, they start a fight
so and they do not want to be torn away,
but I get rid of them so fast they didn't
have a chance to react. My total time from talking
to someone through the phone like we're talking now, to
pulling their home to clearing out their mind forest is
thirty minutes. Thirty minutes. It takes me to clear out

(37:54):
your home of everything in your mind forest, and you're sent.
And most people follow up question on that's probably I
don't know if you've thought about it. Yet, but I'll
answer it before you even get a chance to. Most
people have asked, what does he charge for this kind
of service? He's got charge a good amount of money
for this. This is this fact. He doesn't faster, and

(38:14):
he does it more efficient than anyone else. I charge nothing, nothing,
I ask for nothing. I never have, I never will.
I feel it morally wrong to do so, to charge
someone for with the ability of mind that I have,
especially people who are suffering. My only content in doing
this is to ensure that those things can't harm anyone

(38:37):
ever again, that no one should have my moment of
fear of their child being harmed or damaged or even themselves.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
What if there is more than one entity to quote
unquote dispose of or bind? Can you do more than
one at once? Or is that just one after the other.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
They always come in threes. There's a master and there's
two servants. Sometimes it's a high ring demon with two
lower level demons. Times a demon with a human and
some other kind of entity. But it's always three, always three.
Occasionally randomly, sometimes it'll be four, but I've only encountered
three cases like that. There's four of them, but majority
of time is always three, and they don't always stand together.

(39:19):
I sometimes have to hunt, like I have the person,
you know, turn the camera around, walk me around the
house POV wise. I tell them, hey, look up right,
the left, look down stop, you know, turn this way,
and they're basically my surrogate essentially where they are, and
I pull from wherever they are. But one time, one time,
and an investigation, I grabbed and I reached and I
pulled three demons at once, and one of those guys

(39:44):
was a top tier dude. And my entire forearm and
bicep felt like I couldn't grip my hand, like I
lost all strength in my hand, Like I just it
just like it came limp. I could I could hardly
grab anything. I couldn't even pick up my phone. I
just it was like I lost all feeling for about
maybe a couple of minutes, and it started coming back.

(40:05):
But yeah, I don't try to do that every time.
It's it's most of the time. It's always one after
another after another, and then the process is that so.
But like an investigation that might last hours in a location,
I mean, granted the end of the night, my arm
is like sore, you know, my hand is like I
can't grip anything.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
But well, what's the what's the worst physical effect that
you've had since starting this?

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Well, the first ever poll I ever did, first ever pull,
it felt like an electric bolt shot up my entire
arm into my head, like I didn't know what was
going on. But I've never felt that ever since. But
the only real physical pain I ever felt is getting pushed.
One of these top ranked demons was sneaky enough to
wait till I was distracted by trying to climb down

(40:55):
the side of a hill that had a lot of
like loose rocks, and I wasn't trying to all over
and you know, injure myself, and it pushed me pushing
enough forest I fell forward and caught myself on the
tree before I basically ran my head into it. And
in the act of doing that, I tore my right tricep,
which put me on commission, out of commission for about

(41:18):
a couple of weeks. It wasn't fully torn off the bone,
It just kind of tore in half, but enough that
I couldn't use that arm for a good period of time.
I could grab if something was close and it was
weak enough, but I basically told Meghan, like you're on
guard duty for the time being.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, I think that's injury that I ever encountered.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
So is the process different for you at all if
it's a demon versus an evil human spirit.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
No, because, like I said, I can I can guess
what's there because Meghan, of course, she tells me ahead
of time. We do our home cases. I call Meghan
the Jack of bullt trades when it comes to psychem media
shapabilities because it seems to be nothing she can't do.
But her main focus, or our most powerful talented gift,
is remote viewing. She can find anyone anywhere, alive or dead.
It doesn't matter. You tell her someone's name. She knows

(42:10):
where they are or you tell about her place. She
finds it hard to fight herself to not remote you there,
but she'll say someone asks us for help. She or movie,
it's at their home. She'll see what's going on. She'll
give me like a roundabout what's there? How many where
to look? Where they're dwelling? That kind of things as
a human or these darkened demons? You know, are these
what are these dark humans? Are these regular demons? What's

(42:31):
going on? You know? This one? You might have to
watch out for She'll she'll get that kind of information
for me beforehand, and then I'll have the person walk
around and say, hey, Megan was talking about the basement area.
Can you show me that real quick? And then we'll
go down there and stuff like that. But I use
you go by my feeling, how strong the poll feels,
how much of a charge it's giving me. But no,
I don't know what it is until put I have

(42:53):
a strong guess sometimes like ooh, that was really strong.
That can't be a regular human. That it has to
be something more intense. And sometimes it's not a demon.
Sometimes it's something entirely different. Here's something that'll blow your
socks off if you're wearing any I have taken down
a hat man let that sink in. One of them

(43:16):
came here and it was extremely strong. It was intense
that I thought it was a demon to put it
in the ring when the ring saw was a hat man,
it was coly crap. And one thing I learned doing
this is that sometimes entities put on the disguise, some
kind of camouflage, and I can burn it away to
see what they truly are, and what the hat man

(43:38):
truly is is something no one ever even guessed at.
They are a humanoid shadow figure. But their skin, their
outer shell looks like cracked glass, like obsidian black like
glass like it's like cracking all different pieces in attired
entire body. It's just it looks like that. No no

(44:00):
human face, no mouth, no eyes and lips, just a
shadow figure like it was made of all like a
splack of city and cracked in all different places.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
So did what kinds of things? How much did you
talk to the hat Man about? Did you ask him
many questions? Because a lot of people see the hat.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Man It wasn't talkative. And I tried to go into
his mind forest because I practiced doing other entities mind
force even as one. Demons are just the most vile
things you can think of, Like I've I've seen some
pretty bad horror films and their minds are far worse,

(44:41):
like the Serbian film on one hundred. But no, his
mind was just darkness, no thought, no shadow and granted.
On our podcast, we've done episode on the hat Man
and Megan's actually had her own encounter with the hat
Man before as well, and when she was a child.
It was a long time ago, but I always my

(45:01):
best theory is that I think they're scouts. I almost
think that they're hired guns for whatever is sending them
to go check somebody out, Like I need you to
go look at this person. I need you to go
look at that person. And whoever sends them is the
intention of you feel behind it. But one of them
came here not to observe, but to pick a fight.
Because amongst Megan's many talents and practicing white richcraft, she

(45:25):
learned how to put a shield around this house strong
enough that nothing has been able to get through it. Nothing,
And to her it sounds like someone beating on bulletproof glass.
When they around the shield, they hit it or they
come near it, and it basically ran it at us
like it was trying to get to the home and
the boom, it hits that shield, and she knew something
was it is like someone's over there and that's side
of the house. I reached over there, pulled it through

(45:47):
the shield, and of course put in the ring and
I was like, holy crap, I haven't man, Like I
didn't think I would ever get one like that. Was
I was surprised, like I didn't even think these guys
could get getting like they or get gotten I read
you want to say it like I've thking it out,
even different kinds of rudder spirits that exist out there.
But yeah, I had, man, what the hell? I didn't
even think it was possible. But yet not talking of

(46:08):
not explaining anything, regardless of what I did to it,
it just silence.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Now, what if Megan per Se you had an employment
and she usually does this help very helpful because she's
talented pregame situation and remote views and sees what's doing
before you actually go on and do your side of things.
Have you ever done your side of things without her
side of things?

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Sometimes it makes things take longer because I have to
guess what's going on. I've had people call me like literally,
I'm sitting there watching a TV and I get an
Instagram calling what's going on? Had a literally friend do
that to me one time. He was an urb explorer
and he was at some kind of weird convention of
different urban explorers and he's like, I think you need

(46:52):
you help right now, and you, oh, what's going on?
What's going man? He says that he was in a
airbnb with some other urban explorers and he never met
this guy before, but one of his friends, this was
her boyfriend, and he said at dinner he was acting
really weird, like all of a sudden, he would go
aut it, like to stare up blank face and say
this body is mine. You can't do nothing to stop me.

(47:12):
And then he'll snap bat at it and come back
and be like, what if you're talking to me and
drugs you And when they got back to the house,
all of a sudden, he started throwing up, which they
didn't understand it because he didn't really eat that much and
everything they ate, everything he ate, they ate too, and
they felt fine, So like, why is he And he
said he felt like someone was stabbing him his stomach,
like he didn't understand, and then he would switch out

(47:32):
of that, talking about how he's gonna kill everyone, and
like everyone's like freaking out. And then of course my
friend he goes by the keeper. He was the one
that said I think he might be possessed. Someone called
my friend and he called me and I had Megan
remote view in and she saw what was happening to him.
This yellowish demon had its hand and his stomach twisting
around and she's like, oh my god, you need to

(47:53):
go there now. So I went there, pulled everything, pulled
it off of him, took care of everything, and yeah,
he was fine. The next day he's like, oh, I
guess I must have been you know, something wrong with
my stomach or something like that. Could never happen. Everyone
was freaking out, like what what was going on? And
then the next day is fine and yeah, keeps He
was like like thanks for that, Like, yeah, any time

(48:16):
letterally mean that, but yeah, randomly, like someone would message
me and Megan's not around, I can't ask it a
remote view. So I was like, okay, I'll just go
under blind. A few cases I've done that, Like I said,
it just makes it take longer, like I have to
let's go over here, Let's check the mirrors, let's check
over there. Let's say, all right, pull the mind for
uce and then after iterarroget the entity. Then I can
figure out, okay, this is why it was after you

(48:36):
and make sure and later on I'll say I have
Megan remote you into the house and make sure there's
nothing left behind, and she's like, oh yeah, it's clear
it out and if there is any like fingering, she'll
remote you and body bag it is the term that
we come up with. Essentially, she puts a positive bag
of energy around an entity like a body bag, carries it,
teleports it from where it is to where the ring is,

(48:58):
drops it off, and then of course gets out of there.
And she's been able to take down some very very
powerful dark things. I'm surprised at some stuff she takes down.
She's like on par or if not, you know, exceeding
me with taking down things. But for her it takes
more of a mental toll on her than it does
me physically, Like I can take down the same thing. Eh,

(49:18):
my arm makes a little bit, but her she's like
she gets like a migraine. So she only ever does
that if I'm not available to do it.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
So she can. She can pull things into the ring
as well, it just takes more of a toll.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Yeah, m.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
It will be interesting to see, right, Like once your
daughter starts to be old enough to see what's doing there,
that will be pretty fascinating.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
And now the teacher everything. My son who was already born,
like what I talked about before, he's he's eight now,
and at five years old, I witnessed him keep a
demon in its place. At five years old, he had
his hands up like this, and he was in the
den this before making put up the shield. And he
was like no, no, no, no, no, no no no, like he

(50:09):
has had his hands up like this, and I was like,
what the heck? And I felt around. I could feel
something intensely like my right hand and it couldn't move
like I felt it moved to the right, moved to
the left like he was trying to get around him,
but I couldn't get around him. I was like, what
then gave me? I thought, oh, he's keeping it there,
he's holding it there, and I reached out and I
grabbed and I pulled it. But when I pulled it,

(50:30):
as I was pulling towards me, he turns around to
see where it went, because he didn't know I was
standing there, so he could see what he was holding there,
and he turned around following where it went. And of
course I put in the ring. So at five years old,
my son's already showing abilities. And he is like almost
a combination to me and my wife. But instead of

(50:50):
pulling things, he's almost like pushing them away like some
kind of force keeping them at a distance or not
allowed him to get around. But yeah, we're going to
and I, like most people in the paranormal with other parents,
try to, you know, say oh, you're it's in your head,
or you're crazy, are you making stuff up or it's
just your imagination. No, no, no, we're going to encourage this
and we're going to help train him to get stronger

(51:10):
with his ability. So you know us how to use
it and be a very helpful tool in the future.
Essence of the paranormal, there's.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
One whole family not to f with, right Isaac. And
as far as your ring goes, it's like one ring
to bind them all. Essentially, it's you were spot I.
I love this chat. It's extremely unique. I had no
idea what to expect, and in a million tries I
wouldn't have gotten this, so I absolutely love it. Okay,

(51:41):
so before you go, of course, let everyone know where
to get in touch with you for this work that
you do if you want to give that out, and
then of course where to find you guys' podcast.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Before I get to that, there's one thing I always
like to tell everyone because this is part of the
information I like to get out so other people can, well,
hey find me, I helped me, but I helped them.
But this is how other people can help me. I
have earned six names over my time of doing this,

(52:14):
six titles or something. The shadow Walker like I mentioned first,
that has been my social media handle and that name
was given to me by a woman in Australia who
we interviewed one time, that her friend who kind of
did what I did, but she only pulled positive energy
in the humans and helped crossed the mod to the
other side. She never did that they went dark, but
when she went to her shaman to figure out what
was going on, she told her, Oh, you're a psychopomp

(52:36):
or a shadow walker, and hence why he's like, oh,
you're a shadow walker. I was like, oh, that thing
kind of stuck and became my title name. And then
the second was kind of a joke by my mentor.
We were looking up different legends out in history of
what could disability be of mind and we came across
a Native American deity called Earthmaker, and Mike laugh and

(52:57):
he goes, why, he goes, if he's Earthmaker, when that
make you earth to shake? Like, what are you talking about?
Because he said, sometimes because in the early stages I
put my hand to the earth and I would create
like a giant net of energy and catch everything and
pull it all up from the ground at one time.
And he said when I did that, he felt the
earth vibrate essential shake, and that's why he started calling

(53:17):
me earth Shaker. And now I don't need to touch earth.
I can just send them out and then create a
big net. The third was my first ever demonic oppression case.
Me and my wife kind of abandoned Christianity behind because
it wasn't giving us any answers and nor were they
really helping. So we started looking for other faiths around

(53:39):
the world. To be clear, I believe every god has
ever worshiped or even thought of exists and all who
you choose to go to is who comes to you.
But at the time, we started looking to the Nordic
faith and we started using rooms, which still work for us.
So we started working with the Nordic gods because they

(53:59):
tend to have her back. So before this oppression case,
demonic oppression case, she said, you think we should make
an offering to Odin just to be safe, Like, well, yeah,
because they're going in battle technically. So I went to
the backyard with nothing special, just some stones and I
think a wolf wooden pendant buried in the ground, and said,
All Father, protect me in battle. And I heard clearly,
as I'm speaking to you, something in my one of

(54:21):
my ears say dranger. And I looked around and thought
something was with me at the same time, and I said,
what the heck's going on? So I'm playing job with me? No,
no one's back there. And I had a look at
that war What is that? Dranger is apparently a Nordic
word from Doris Sweden, but the Vikingers would use as
a compliment. It essentially means like badass or ultimate warrior,
like your so and so's stranger. All dude on the battlefield,

(54:44):
you're a dranger, right, So for the All Father to
call me duranger a high compliment. Hence why my third
name became Odin's Dranger. The fourth is the closest description
I can give to anyone about what I am. Like
I said, not psychic, not a medium, not any of that.
So what am I? And Megan and her research found

(55:05):
that apparently Shamans and the Nordic, the Aztec, even the
Haitian belief in some Native American tribes they had shamans
who can imprison dark energies in their staffs. So I
was like, oh, but they needed immense amount of meditation
and spells to do so when I can just reach
out and grab it. So, but those shamans were known

(55:25):
for war, hence my fourth name, the war Shaman. But yeah,
that's the best way I can describe myself to anyone
is that I'm a shaman who was born to do this,
not trained to do this. My abilities are natural to me.
I didn't have to learn how to do this. I
had to learn how to master it, but do it itself. No,
it just came to me like a natural process. The

(55:45):
fifth name is what they call me what the dark
entities and demons call me. They don't call me Isaac,
they don't call me shadow walker. They call me order keeper. Yeah.
A lot of the time I've always heard that, what
do you want order keeper or your order keeper? Blah
blah blah blah. But yeah, order keeper, that was That's
the fifth name. But the sixth name is the most

(56:07):
important of all of them because it has the strongest
clues to who I actually am. So I had to
have surgery about two years ago over my belly button.
I don't know if you if ever had surgery before,
but I've never felt the sensational falling asleep and waking
up in the same second in hours have passed. But
my mentor, Mike, he has had many stomach surgeries and

(56:30):
surgeries over his lifetime because he had cancer and stuff
like that. Grant he's in remission, that he's fine, but
he said, when you're under anesthesia and you meditate, you
can go anywhere. So I was like, oh, let me
try it when I go under, when am gonaet as
an opportunity like this, but literally the night before my surgery,
and we get visited by the spirit of my grandfather,
but not my grandfather from this lifetime, my grandfather from

(56:53):
when I lived with the Cheyenne in the seventeen hundreds,
and he told Megan to tell me when ISAA goes
under tomorrow, to go find him. So I was saying,
all right. So with that mindset, as I dissipated back
into under dynastyes and I wake up, I don't remember
the entire six hours I was under. All I remember

(57:14):
is sitting in front of a cave on natural outcropping
of rock, in front of a blue light, blue flamed
fire between us looking at an old Native American man
and the whole get up of that time period, and
him point to me and say, you are ash Wakana Tunka,
the reaper of souls. You are ash Wakana Tunka. And

(57:36):
that as I'll remember, And that name became my sixth name,
ash Wakana Tunka. And what's interesting about that name is
that when we investigate over here in the North, in
North Carolina, on the East coast, around the crow to
A National Forest, different places, investigated a lot of Native
American spirits, they call me ashwall kinda tunka over the spearbox.
We hear that actual kind of tunka come through the spearbox.

(58:01):
So Native American spirits here on the East Coast, no,
a legend is supposed to be associated with the Great
Plains Native Americans. Not just that. I have an investigation
friend of mine or he has an investigation team up
in Vancouver, Canada, and he was investigating an area that
had a lot of Navor spirits there or indigenous spirits
of that area, and he asked him, hey, guys, I

(58:22):
got a friend in the States. He has a name
Ill one of you guys know, he said, you guys
know the name ash Will kind of Tonka, and they
replied with an instant he said, and it said, ah, yes,
he is king. That's all it came through. So Native
American spirits or Indigenous spirits in the Northwest, no leegend
is supposed to associate with the Great Plains. That also,

(58:44):
the indigenous spirits over here on the East coast all
know the name Ashual kind of Tonka. And I have
tried for the last four years to get in touch
with any one of elder status amongst the Native American tribes.
I don't care what you drib by, just any of them.
And silence from every email, from every message, from everyone

(59:05):
ever talked to, nothing, no follow episode, nothing, it'sych silence.
They don't want to talk out to me or they
don't want to talk to anyone. I don't know, but
it's not without trying. But yeah, that name astral kind
of Talk has the most clue to this entire story.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
And your seventh name is not to be ft with
all right, bring it up.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
I know a friend of mine is like, you should
go demon Hunter, Like that's as right.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah, Hey, I mean the other six are prett damn cool?
I mean why not?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
All right, so yeah, let everybody know where to find
you and how to how to contact you. Make sure
to get all that out there.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yeah, So you can find us on socials and Hidden
the Shadows podcast on Instagram, Hitting the Podcast two on TikTok.
But we do have a website call Hitting Shadows Paranormal sorry,
Hitting the Shadows dot com, which we combined the podcast
and our parent whole team because Hitting Shadows Paranormal on
Instagram as well. But we have the website Hitting Shadows
dot com. We're had links to every episode where you

(01:00:07):
can find this and stuff like that. But yeah, if
you're looking for help with anything you need me to
clear it your mind, forest or dealing with the demon
in your house. Like I said, I don't charge anything
and it only takes me thirty minutes, so I get
it done pretty fast, faster and delivered pizza. But the
best way to message us is do Instagram or the email.
On the websites, I think we have a Facebook at

(01:00:28):
well as well. Hit a Shadows Podcasts on Facebook. I
don't ever check it. Megan handles that stuff, but yeah,
the Instagram, I think is the best source to get
in contact with us because I check it consistently or
through the email, through that I think, through Instagram or
the website itself, and you can find it. Sorry, you
can find the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. We're

(01:00:50):
on everything, Apple, Spotify, YouTube where we find podcasts. And
I've only talked about my ability. I know we talk
a lot about it, but I still have but tons
more of information that I didn't get to share. But
I have a series called the shadow Walker series shadow
Walker Part one, two, three, four, five. I think I
WoT the six scattered throughout the five years have been

(01:01:12):
doing this, and you hear the evolution of my ability
where it started and where it was about a year ago,
which I think I have enough stuff now to do
probably shadow Walker mark seven. But yet, if you want
to over my ability, that was the series to listen to.
Megan has her own We talk about Megan's abilities remote viewing.
You hear more on that or anything about the paranormal

(01:01:33):
you want to hear us talk about on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Well, Isaac, I really appreciate you getting in touch after
seeing that video on Instagram, honestly, and thank you for
the wonderful and very unique chat. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
Well, so I was given this name my business I
was under college and I've done these things and my profession,
my producers, is the love.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
But it says forget it, that's not.

Speaker 7 (01:02:04):
That's something for story, that's all gone, that's all bars.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
I want to see them really you who you are now,
But nobody knows who their names because we don't know
our selves except who listening to our egos.

Speaker 8 (01:02:20):
And consulting our members.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
But that that's a really and that again leads us
best this question what are you?

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
That is the meaning.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
We shall see how they play with this except by
the cost to get.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
You to come out of your show and find.

Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
Out how to be really hope, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
It's it's it's it's it's it's putt puts its.

Speaker 9 (01:03:58):
People, for example, are quite divided on us.

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
They will say, no, we don't believe literally.

Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
In reincarnation that after your funeral you will suddenly become
somebody different living somewhere else. They will say, reincarnation means
this that if you're sitting here now, are really convinced.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
That you're the same person at.

Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
The door half an hour ago.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Will be becoming.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
If you're liberating your mothers now that you're not.

Speaker 8 (01:05:06):
The past hasn't existence, The future doesn't insisted.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
There is only the present.

Speaker 8 (01:05:13):
That's the beweenim of the incidence send master gokospace s.

Speaker 7 (01:05:20):
Spring does not become suthense.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Because there is some sense and then there is springs.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
M hm. It'sssssssss puss, puss, puss, puss puss.

Speaker 7 (01:07:19):
That's the same idea four days where he says, when
you've settled down in the train, you can read your
newspaper and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
So you were not the same person.

Speaker 7 (01:07:31):
A while ago, and live in the plan.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
If you think you are, you are linking your movements
up in the check.

Speaker 7 (01:07:39):
And this is what buyds the wheel band, when you
know that every moment of which you are is the
only moment this cons in des The Master will say
from somebody, I can't have a bok across the room
and it can't be back, and he says, where your
foot they've gone?

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
So where are you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Who are you?

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
When we are asked who we are, we usually give
a kind of recitation of an instru instints instence

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
H