iNTO THE FRAY 519: Rispin Mansion

Jim shares very interesting, one-off paranormal experiences. These include knocks and glowing eyes outside a second-story window, full-body apparitions, light anomalies around a very haunted mansion, a possible fairy sighting, and more.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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over this small binning fragment of solar driftwood, which, by
chance or design, man has inherited out of the dark
mystery of time and face.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
On this episode of Into the Fray, I welcome Jim
on with me. He reached out and he said, I
have quite a little number of things that have happened,
and even before we officially started recording, he used a
term that I use quite a bit because I've had
these kinds of experiences, and they are called one offs, right, Jim.
So that's what we are going to be talking about,

(01:21):
is a number of different one offs, which, in a
lot of cases just the fact that they are one
offs can sometimes be more interesting than if it's this
ongoing situation of repeating whatever the weirdness is. Right. So anyway, Jim,
welcome on the show. Thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Thank you, Shanan. I'm glad to be here. I've been
I've listened from the beginning, so back when it was
Sam and everybody. So yeah, yeah, now I'm all glad
to I'm all like I got to call in and
tell her my stories. But I'm glad we've finally connected.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Absolutely, yeah, I truly appreciate it, and thanks for listening
as far back as it's been ten years now, so
that's pretty crazy when the audio is a whole lot different,
and I probably talked a little bit too much. So
I do that list now. But thanks Jim. So you
did mention that most of these did occur in California.

(02:19):
So however much I always say, you hear me say
it time and again, however much information you want to
share to set things up and kick things off, but
I have your list in front of me and we
will move through this, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well, so the first one I think I had on
the list is the glowing eyes I saw. Now, this
is kind of a weird one because now this actually
happened in New Jersey when I was about probably eight
eight and a half years old, living in a house
with my parents, sharing a room with my My brother

(02:57):
wasn't even born yet, so it was just me in
this room and I'm asleep and then I hear this
knock at the window. I'm like, well, that's kind of weird.
And then so I got up and I just kind
of looked out the window and there are these two
red glowing eyes that looked at me about the size

(03:19):
of wall from my kid's perspective, golf balls just in
the bottom left hand corner of the window. I free
and ran to my parents. So that's how I know
that I wasn't sleeping. So I jump out of my
bed and I go run to my parents, and my
dad's like, what the heck And he comes into the room,

(03:40):
and of course, you know, there's nothing at the window now,
so he just tells, me, you know, go ahead, go
get back in bed, and I'm like, I can't. There's
something at the window. And so from what I can remember,
I just ended up having to endure sleeping in the
bed with whatever out of the window. Now, I guess

(04:02):
it could have been something in a dream, but I
remember it woke me up. I got up out of bed,
because if you're looking at the window, it was more
towards the corner of the room, and my bed would
have been to the left of the window. So when
I got up and I looked, and I'm like, what
the And that's when I ran to get my dad.

(04:26):
So the picture I sent you of the house with
a circle that's the window. But that picture was taken
like from Google Earth. So back when I was there
in the early seventies, none of the trees would have
been there. So it's not like there was a squirrel
in the window from the tree or a pot whatever.

(04:46):
There were no trees around the window. So see.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Unfortunately, this for my where my brain was going. I'm like, oh,
I'm sure it's not a Salem's Lot situation. I'm sure
this was a first story window, but that is not
the case. So this I pulled the picture up, I'm like, oh, inside,
I'm like, oh, that is a second story window. Creepy.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, and you can even see the trees that are
there are still not that mature. But when when we
were living there, like I said, in the early seventies,
there was no there was no tree there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that was kind of a weird one. And nothing else

(05:32):
happened really in that house, which I kind of looking
back on it, nothing else really happened in that house
that I can think of, because we moved out of
that house probably a year and a half later. So
but yeah, no, my parents never believed me, so I
never really quite talked to him about it after that.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Do you remember having like this stronghold to look outside
or that you were being watched? Why'd you look out
in and out the window?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Well, so, I'm pretty sure I'm trying to think back
to when I was a kid. I'm pretty sure I
was sleeping and I heard what sounded like knocking on
the window.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Oh so that was straight on. The knocking was straight
up on the window. You could tell on the window.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yes, that's why I went to the window.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
And I don't know how long, you know, the knocking
had been going on. I just remember, you know, waking
up and like hearing the knocking and then you know,
getting out of bed and walking around to the end
of my bed and that's right where the window was.
And I'm like, okay, And I can't recall if they

(06:44):
were moving, you know, in any type of way. I
just remember in the split second before I ran, you know,
it was like, oh o K. Two red eyes that
shouldn't be there. I'm out. But I do remember them
being bigger than just like a person's eyes or dog's eyes.
They were i'd say at least the size of two

(07:05):
golf balls. And I can't even tell how far apart
they were now for it because it's been so long.
But yeah, so that was that was pretty trippy.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And just to add to this, I'm again looking at
the picture. This is not a situation where there was
some kind of an overhanger report for someone to climb up.
That was not that kind of a situation where there
was something for someone to stand on or something to say.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Yeah, that's why you know I was talking about the
trees and stuff, is like there was nothing there. It
was just a corner of the house. There was no trellis, work,
no nothing and all that. So, and we had a
really protective German shepherd that kind of slept, you know,

(07:55):
didn't really have any place to sleep. He just kind
of wandered and stuff wherever he wanted to. And he
never made any sounds, you know, so he didn't notice anything.
He wasn't in my room, but you know, he was
a pretty good, you know, guard dog, so he didn't
hear anything either.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
So, now, did you have blinds or curtains up that
you would have to pull aside or open.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I had very sheer blind sheer curtains, so that and
I did not go to the window but they were
sure enough to where I could see them through see
what was happening, because it I'm trying to think if
they were red or like a really dark orange. I

(08:41):
probably have to say more of like a reddish color
if I'm remembering correctly, But yeah, so they were. It
was seen through the these sheersh curtains.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Now did that scare you enough to where you thought, gosh,
I want to come up with even though you you
told your parents I didn't believe you unfortunate. Did that
scare you enough to where you're going, Oh, maybe I
should come up with a reason why I want to
switch rooms? Or did that come up in do you?
I mean, it's a while ago, I understand. Do you
recall this sticking with you to where you're thinking the

(09:14):
next night, like, oh my god, I hope I don't
hear any knocking. Am I going to hear the knocking
again and see these eyes? For lack of a better term, no, from.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
From what I remember, so, I have three sisters and
my and a younger brother, but he wasn't born yet.
So there was my basically two story with four bedrooms
up there, parents, mine, and then older sister had her
own room, and then my two younger daughter sisters had

(09:47):
their own room, and so nobody would sleep in their room.
From what I remember from the next night, because I'm
very foggy on this at this point, but I do
remember trying not to sleep in there and then just
being told, you know, hey, just stop it and go
to bed. That's kind of how my dad was. He's
a old school Italian or was. He has since passed

(10:10):
in twenty nineteen, but yeah, he was like, no, just
go to bed. And you listen to your father back.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Then, you're like, Dad, But I love the couch. It's
the most comfortable thing I've ever sat on or slept on.
And it's like since when.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Except no, no, no, there were more windows downstairs.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, it looks like one of those I love those
kinds of houses that it just looks like there is
just a ton of windows all over that house, which
good for you, right, You're like yay.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, So after that experience, Yeah, so that's pretty much
all that happened there.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Now, I do like, let me just say something, Jim,
before you go to sleep paralysis, because you put sleep
paralysis down on the bullet point, but then you put
a question mark which I really I like that. I
appreciate that because you're not saying for sure. And there's
actually two more that have a question mark, because you're
right out stating I'm going to share this, but I'm
not saying that's what this is. It's just, for lack

(11:08):
of a better term, here's what we're going to be
talking about next. So thank you for that. I think
that's a good way to do that. So, yeah, the
next one is fleet paralysis question mark.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, so that one. So we had we had moved
to California at this point, and we're in Santa Cruz, California.
I'm not sure for being older that it is. It's
about an hour a half south of San Francisco Beachtown.
And I was probably about seventeen at this time. And

(11:40):
from what I remember, it was a Saturday morning because
it was kind of light in my room. And what
was weird was I was kind of like laying there
and then I kind of I felt myself roll over
onto my back. I'm like what, and then my arms

(12:05):
go out to my side pointing out like a cross
kind of, and then it's just really good word. It
felt like I came off the bed a little bit,
and then I was like, and I'm trying to stop
and I really can't do anything. And then the next

(12:29):
thing I remember, I'm just like waking up from bed again.
I'm back in my bed. It's still the same time
of day, so there's no like from what I can recall,
no time lost, and so I don't know if it
was just a very vivid dream, but it's like I
remember feeling myself. I think that's what kind of woke
me up was I went onto my back and then

(12:51):
my arms went out, and then I'm awaken. I can
feel myself rising. I don't think I went from what
I could very high, but I felt myself come off
the bed and not being able to do anything or
stop anything. And I don't recall like trying to scream

(13:12):
or anything, just like stunned, like what's going on here?
And I'm just like and then I'd promise it. From
what it felt like, it felt like it was only
about thirty seconds, maybe because during that time, thirty seconds
is a lifetime, you know, because you're not sure what's

(13:33):
going on. And then I just remember waking up again
in bed and being kind of scared, you know, still
a little scared, and I never told anybody about that.
I didn't tell my parents about that one. They didn't
believe the red eyes. They weren't believe I was floating
out of my bed.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So yeah, I think at that point you were probably
to wear well kind of almost whatever happens, I won't
be sharing it because you already shut down.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah. Well, the funny thing is is, so my father
and I we were very much into the in search of,
you know, anything big. And my dad was a big
alien guy too. He watched all those ancient alien shows.
He watched anything alien, you know. I remember when he

(14:24):
took this to go see Closing en Counter, of those
Closing Encounters of the third kind at the drive in.
You know, so he was into that stuff. So I
think he would have been recepted to it. But you
know that this was also probably ten years later from
when we moved out there. But I was still just
also too. That's why put the question mark. I can't

(14:47):
say this wasn't a dream, but it was just very
weird because I don't usually have vivid dreams. You know,
maybe once in a blue move and you'll wake up
and like, oh damn, that was a dream. Okay, but
it seems so real. But yeah, that one was just
here because like I said, we had watched these shows.

(15:11):
Of course you're thinking alien abduction. You know, that's that's
usually how it starts. You know, you're you can't move
in bed, you raise and then be taken out of
the room. But yeah, as far as I know, it's
it's it's only happened that once. I don't recall having
any messine time or anything like that, and so, but yeah,

(15:36):
it was definitely weird.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Do you recall talking with your siblings about especially the
knocking on the window and then the red eyes outside,
or them having any kind of odd activity like that.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
You know for some reason. No, especially with when I
was with the eyes in the window the way, my
dad just said, it didn't happen, just go back to bed,
and so I don't know. I mean, I thought about
it later on in life because I remember my dad

(16:12):
used to like to scare us, So I don't I
don't think he because he was he was in his room.
So because I remember, I thought about it, and I
asked him later on in life, I go, hey, did
you ever? He's No, it wasn't me. You know, you
got me from my bedroom. And there's no way he

(16:35):
could have done anything from his bedroom. Because when we
were little, for some reason, my older sister and I
and my next sister we want to sleep out in
the car for whatever reason, and he came out and
scared us. So that's why I thought, well, maybe he did,
but no, he s wors he didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, I imagine, especially if you asked him years later,
at that point, he probably would have said, oh, yeah,
I got the neighbor to stick a couple whatever's on
a stick, and you know, yeah, you would imagine at
that point he probably would come clean, but he didn't.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
So yeah, well I think he would have come clean,
like even sooner because like when he because when he
scared us, it was the same house.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Mm.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
So we were still hung I mean, we're all sleeping
like we're camping out there. And he had taken my
mother's you know those old star foam wigs, yeaholders. He
tied that onto his head and put a robe around them.
Oh god, came out, shook the car and then slowly
stood up with his white head came up through the window.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Oh my god, that is messed up. I like your dad.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Oh, my god. I mean we laughed about it now,
but we almost oh, we almost died out there.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
He had to get the upholstery cleaned in the car.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, following over each other, these three kids scrambling because
it was like a it wasn't a full it was
a small dots and spacial wagon.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh geez, we're.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Scrambling to get out of each other. Oh it's funny.
I mean, we can laugh at it now, but yeah,
it's we's talking about it all the time. It was funny.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
That was a good one. I liked that one.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
So yeah, So, I mean he was, you know, into
the stuff that I was into, like the spooky stuff
and all the ghost shows. But I don't remember him
ever saying anything ever happened to him? Uh because yeah,
because that happened, and and it only happened once from

(18:40):
my memory, and then I think we I was seventeen,
so we probably moved out of that house. And that's
the only thing I can remember ever happening in that house.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Jim in regards to the fact that he was kind
of into this stuff and you guys would watch in
search of do you find it lightly strange that he
didn't ask more questions or I mean, did he even
come into your room to look out the window to
see if anyone or anything was out there?

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Oh? He did. That's why I didn't think he did it, because.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
It's he was kind of he came allay in.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Okay, he came all the way in and opened the curtains,
because I mean, you had your seven year old, eight
year old son coming in and saying, there's somebody at
my window knocking out my window and he was asleep.
So yeah, he came in and looked. But so that was,
like I said, probably early seventies, because I'm sixty now,

(19:44):
so I was seventy, I was seven or eight, because
I know we moved out of that house shortly after that.
But from what I recall, it wasn't until we were
I was probably about thirteen fourteen that we kind of
started watching this in search of stuff. And so I

(20:05):
don't know if it was something that he got into
later on life or how he even got into that,
because I that's unfortunately, you know, since he's passed, I
now that I'm more into it and have I know
what questions to ask, like, Hey, what got you into
this or this? I was never able to do that
with him.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Well, the other side, I'm sorry, Jim.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Oh, I'll just say, it's not like he wouldn't have responded.
He would have. Yeah, I just you know, I didn't
think to ask about that stuff back then.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Right. Well, I think the other side to my statement
or question would be most parents do not want to.
It's okay to scare kids to a certain point, but
then you have to stop and not create some kind
of a PTSD about a certain situation. So maybe for him,
that was that situation where he didn't want to poke

(20:59):
and proud you or go oh, maybe it was aliens,
maybe it was this, Maybe it was that, Maybe he
was starting to get into that stuff and had questions
but didn't want that to live in your head any
longer than maybe it was already going to because you
saw it.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, quite possibly. I just like I said, we just
never really talked about it. Yeah, I mean, we did
not at all. It's like it's like it didn't happen,
and so it just it's just something that pops into
my head every now, especially since you know, I like
this stuff, so I'll you know, you hear other people's stories,

(21:36):
and you know, then you start thinking about it again
and so but yeah, it was definitely different.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
All right, So next up is ghost sighting.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Okay, so let's see. So we're still in Santa Cruz
or at that at that house I was talking about,
and oh no, wait, we had moved out, so it
was probably I was twenty one twenty two at the time.
But all through high school we always had I always

(22:10):
knew a friend that worked at the Aptops twin movie theater.
This is too little theater, you know, And I always
had a friend that worked there, so we were always
going there, and everybody that worked there said it was haunted.
There was a ghost and they named the ghost Henry.
I believe, and I was in the ghost, but I'm like, okay, yeah,

(22:31):
but like one of my best friends worked there and
he says, yeah, we hear noises all the time and
this and that, and it's like I believe them, but
it's like, I'm into this stuff and I've never heard
it whenever I had been there. That's where we went
to the movies all the time, and we'd hang out
and stuff. And then this one time, another good friend

(22:54):
of mine was the assistant manager, so we would go
after everybody after the movies were done and they were
closing up. All the friends would come over, bring beers
and food, and they'd play the movie for us and
we just sit there and get drunk and watch the movie.
Well this is before we even started drinking, so I
wasn't even had any alcohol with me. My buddy says, hey,

(23:20):
all right, I'm gonna go with the film on. And
I said, hey, you know i've never seen it done.
Can I come up with you? So yeah, okay. So
I'm six three, about two hundred and fifty pounds. My
buddy's six three and about three hundred pounds. So we're
two big guys. Right, We're gonna go upstairs. And when
you come into the door, it's where the two projectors are,

(23:43):
one on either side of the room, and it's just
a big open room. There's nothing for people to hide behind.
So we go up and we're watching I'll munching them
feed it through and he's getting it going. And you
know how in the old projectors they I think they
still do this. They shoot through that little glass window

(24:06):
down onto the screen. So he was getting through there
and I just kind of look up and I'm looking
through this glass window and over my left shoulder as
a man standing behind me. I can see his face,
dark hair, I can see a mustache. And this was

(24:30):
over my left shoulder. So when I looked to the left,
there's nobody there. It's just he and I out there.
And I said, oh god, Henry's here. I'm out of here.
And my buddy there said, dude, if you leave me here,
I'm gonna f and kill you. So but the point

(24:51):
about to the left is when I look to the left,
that's where the door is. So nobody could have been
been behind me and then skipped out somewhere. They couldn't
have hid anywhere because it was there was nothing around
me for twenty feet. So but I clearly saw this

(25:17):
man's face behind me.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
So is there any corroboration with this man working there,
or Henry as a real person or tied to the
name of the man that you saw anything like that
that you found out later?

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Not that I can find, because I have at the
time that that kind of sparked a little something I saw,
you know, And most of my if I'm remembering correctly,
most if not all, my friends only said they would
hear things or see something move like a like a
door open. They never say they saw something, and from

(25:59):
my understanding, they just somebody a while back on to
nicknamed them Henry for whatever reason. But you know, this
is probably back It's definitely before the Internet. So it's
not like I could, you know, google something like hey,

(26:19):
you know accidental deaths or deaths in a movie theater
or whatever, So as best I could back then, you know,
people didn't know. It's just it had been going on
for so long that if the person who knew about
it was wasn't probably around, it wasn't probably around the
area or working for them. Not to say that they

(26:41):
had passed because it wasn't that long. But yeah, no,
and that was the only time I've ever seen that,
and we had We've been to that theater multiple times afterwards.
But yeah, no, it was a clear there was somebody
behind me. It was just as simple as that.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
That's a very cool experience, insighting. Do you feel lucky
to have seen that?

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I do, because like, because I'm I'm very much probably Ghosts,
Bigfoot and dog Man or probably my three biggies that
I won't watch anything, you know, I'll watch anything that's
out there on these three subjects. So but Yeah, it's

(27:31):
it's pretty cool. I'd love to see something else.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Again, see, and that's the beauty of the whole one
off thing. You're kind of going. So I was blessed
to have seen Henry, whereas most people only heard him,
assuming that was still the same entity that was making
the noises. And then you're going, why didn't I see
him again? Why didn't I Why did I go back
to that theater and never experience that again? And you

(27:55):
wonder if he only shows himself in that room as well,
if it's a more residual type of a situation.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, true, because that so that was you had to
go upstairs to get to that room, and so it
could be hey, that's where they heard the noises, but
they have seen I think they saw a bathroom door open.
I'm trying to remember all this because I mean it
was pretty much all my friends at work there said
the same thing. Oh yea, it's on it. Now that

(28:25):
theater has since been torn down and some businesses are there,
I chickened out. I was going to go into because
where it was. I believe it's a paint store, because
you always hear, oh, whatever you remodel, this stirs up activity,

(28:47):
and so I was kind of curious to go in
there and say, hey, do you guys everything weird happening here?
You mean besides you coming in and asking him that. No,
but I never did, so.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, and that could go either way, you know, they
could have more activity. They might see him all the time,
versus they never hear him, it's just seeing him, or
it may have just stopped altogether.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah. So yeah, like I said, it's it's been that
way for a while now.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
So but so this this next one is another one
with the caveat of the question mark at the end again,
so thank you for that. So it says touched by
a ghost question mark.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Okay. So I worked for a friend of mine and
we installed home theater systems and we're at a client's house,
longtime client, so we are very you know, comfortable with
them and everything, and we're downstairs. I guess it would

(29:55):
be technically a basement, but we don't do basements out
here in California, So it was just the lower part
of the house. And I'm in this room, this theater room,
and my buddies in one corner. I'm walking down and
the owner had just come down to I think she
was switching laundry over or something, and I go, oh, oh,

(30:18):
that was weird, and she goes, what, oh, nothing nothing,
She's oh, no, what what. I'm like, Well, something just
poked me in the chest and she goes, oh, that's
the ghost. And my buddy just goes, don't get them started.
And I'm like, I'm like, what are you talking about,
because goes, oh, I'm pretty sure this house is haunted.

(30:41):
And basically what it was was I was just walking
and you now, when somebody lightly, just lightly touches your
stirrenum or your chest, that's exactly what it felt like.
And there was nothing hanging down. I'm just walking to
go to the back of the room and just this
little on my chest. And then just like in the minute,

(31:04):
she said, oh this place is hot. I got instant chills.
So and she hadn't. She was into the stuff too,
so she was kind of saying, you know, we couldn't
find anything, you know, but we hear some things. And
they had never seen anything move or any apparitions. But

(31:24):
they would hear things like they'd beat upstairs and they
would hear something downstairs, or they'd beat downstairs and they
hear something upstairs and so but yeah, that was kind
of a weird little because I've never been touched and
it was just that's exactly what it feels like if
you just you know, let me touch your chest.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well, how often had that happened to anybody? Did she say?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
She said, nobody's ever. Doesn't happen to anybody.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Nobody. That's that's kind of weird. That in and of
itself is so strange. Right, Oh, she she right away goes, oh,
that must have been the ghost. But then in her
head she's probably like, oh my gosh, he's never he
or it or she has never touched anybody.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, that's weird, I was saying. From my understanding, she
was just saying that it was just audible. They were
just hearing stuff, and it's weird.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
That's I was like, Oh, surely she'll something will be
jogged and there will be this story of oh, well,
this one time, But there was no one time you
were the one time I was.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I guess I was a lucky one.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Of your friend. Your coworkers like, don't get him started.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, he knew he was one of my best friends,
so he knew all the stuff I was into Oh
that is pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
That is pretty cool. Though then it shows you to
poke because you were the one into this stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
So sorry, what were you going to say, Jim, No,
I was.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Just saying he so the friend that I worked for
was also kind of involved in one of the other stories.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Too, So him just being in proximity to you, he's
got things going down, that's all.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
No, we so we can kind of jump ahead. I
don't know, it's it's the abandoned mansion thing.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, if you want, and then we could go back
to the orb.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
So yes, because the abandoned mansion, the one assortment hotel
happened before that, but it was the same place. Oh yes.
So in Capitola, California, there's this place called the Wristbind Mansion.
I'm not sure if you googled it at all, but

(33:40):
it's this gentleman built it way back when had some
things happened, and then the church bought it, and it
was this place for the sisters to be and that
we always heard rumors of all that they used to
drown babies in the basement and this and that, and

(34:02):
of course nothing in true, but it was it had
been abandoned. So this was in the eighties when I
was in high school. That used to be the thing
to do. Go in there, sneak into the we just
called the monastery. That was the last thing that used
to be and in the eighties, I think at that

(34:25):
point it had been abandoned for about thirty years. I
can't remember how to google the and see when it
was abandoned. But so we would all go in and
explore this place. That's kind of back before it got
too bad. The weird thing was it was when you

(34:46):
went upstairs into the main living room, there was a
fireplace that had two bookcases on either side. Well, if
you're looking at the fireplace on the right hand side,
one of the bookcases would slide open. You can go
into like I guess their version of a panic room,

(35:08):
and then close the bookcase. And then there was a
steel plate that you would slide into place, and that
was still there when we were exploring. So everyone go
up there and check that out. So I can never
find anything about the owner, you know, being into the

(35:31):
crime or anything like that. Just for some reason, there
was this little panic room. So as we're exploring and
walking around, somebody one of my friends gets the bright
idea to go into the basement, and I said, I
will not be doing that, you know, I just there's

(35:51):
if anything's ever going to happen, it's going to be
in the basement. So I opted to not go down there,
so that would left me by myself and I believe
what was the kitchen area. And now since they were downstairs,
I can't say the noises I heard, which it sounded

(36:12):
like somebody walking around, I can't say for sure it
wasn't them, but they were below me on what I
would have left believed to have been concrete floor of
the basement, and this sounded like somebody walking on a
wooden floor, And so I opted to wait outside from them.

(36:34):
I heard them the walking across the floor, and I went, nope,
I'm out. I'm out. I'll be waiting outside. So I did,
and they came out and goes, what are you waiting
outside for? Just at that point I'm like, I'm not
even to get into this. So they weren't down the
very but they weren't down there very long either, So

(36:55):
but yeah, that's pretty much what I have for that one.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
So it looks like I I did the googles real
quick for everybody. It was abandoned since fifty seven or
fifty nine, so quick, a long time. But the inside
photos of this, well, the outside too, it's wild. I
mean it's a big, beautiful place. Of course, there's parts
of it that are burned and graffiti all over it.
Part of the floors look like they have collapsed. Yeah,

(37:21):
it looks like Zach and the crew went there at
one point too, from what I'm seeing.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Very recently they went there.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Oh recently?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Cool. Yeah, I want to say within the past year
year two.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh yeah, I didn't. I don't really watch too many
of the shows, so I wasn't even aware of that.
That's extremely recent for them because they've already at this
point gone to most every place that's high up on
the list.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Now. Back in the eighties when we were going, the
floors weren't in that bat of shape. You could walk
upstairs because like I'm like, oh, they're going to go
upstairs and see that. No, when they went in you
could see how bad it looked. The floors were gone
and stuff like that. It was more dangerous to go
into it. But when we went into it, you could

(38:08):
walk downstairs. You could walk upstairs. You know, the bookshelf
was still there sliding. The steel plate was still able
to slide. So that's why, like I said, they were
probably there. Yeah, I want to say I was here
in Missouri, so probably twenty three, twenty four they were there.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I encourage everybody to go look this place up. I mean,
what a if somebody restored that. I mean it cost
an absolute fortune, but what all.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
That's Yeah, there was always always you know, we need
to re remodel it, rebuild it, get it back because
it is a piece of history for you know, Capitola,
and it's it's literally cheese five minutes three minutes to
the beach from there. So basically probably probably the pictures

(39:06):
you're you're seen are from what I would call the
front and then on the back side of it, it
goes slightly downhill and there's a creek there or very
very small river that goes out to the beach. So
like so the picture with the orb that I sent you,

(39:27):
that's that building. So it's just from the if you're
looking at it the left hand side, Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
That place is stunning. So I'm distracted by all the
photos too, because it's a it's a big place. Yeah,
it's sitting on a hill. So all right, so let's
go to the orb situation now, Like is this yeah?
So sorry you got I'm not so.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
This is probably two thousand in sixteen. I can't remember
when the movie came out, but it was when one
of the Halloween movies came out, so it was in October.
It was a premiere of the movie, and I had
my son for the weekend, so my son and I

(40:19):
and then two of my sisters we all went to
watch the movie. And so when the movie was over,
I'm like, hey, it's pitched blackout. Let's go down to
the monastery and look around. And my son's into the
stuff just as much as I am. So, and he
probably would have been sixteen, maybe fourteen, because he's gonna

(40:44):
be twenty two this year, so he was in his
early teens. He's like, hell, yeah, let's go. So we
go out there and we're just walking around and he
can't get too far because they haven't gated off and stuff.
And I'm like, oh, this looks pretty creepy. It's around Halloween.
So I take just my normal iPhone and I snap

(41:05):
a picture and as I snapped out of the corner
of my eye on my left side, this orange orb,
which was probably the size of a catalope, goes down

(41:26):
and now at this point I'm watching it, so I
see it go down the side of the house, and
then it turned right and went behind the house, and
I'm like, oh my god, did you see that? He's all,
what what I didn't see? I go, come here, look,
I saw this. I took a picture, and then after

(41:48):
I took the and then I go after I took
the picture, I saw the orb. It's like, oh man,
I didn't see that. I didn't think anything of it.
It was oh man. So we waited around a little
bit long, didn't see anything else, and we said, well,
let's get out here. It's getting late because it was probably,
I don't know, eleven thirty twelve o'clock by the time

(42:09):
we got out of the movie, and then came over
here because it wasn't far away. Then. So I get
home and I'm like, I'm just gonna put some you know,
maybe post some pictures saying oh, we went and saw
Halloween and now we went over here. That's what I noticed.
I actually caught the orb in the picture, and I
showed my son, I'm like, look, check it out. I

(42:30):
actually caught it. It's like, oh man, but yeah, it's
I saw it go down the hill and then it
just from what I remember, it wasn't moving very fast,
but it wasn't going slow either. It just went down
the hill and then to the right behind the house.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Now, is there any possibility I have the one pulled
up where it actually looks like there's two separate lights
of some sort. Is there any possibility those are headlights
or tail lights from a road?

Speaker 3 (43:03):
No. So, from where I was standing looking at the house,
there is a road behind me that goes to my left. Because,
like I'm saying, there's a small river there. Like I said,
it's like I use a word river loosely a big

(43:23):
creek or small river. So, and that goes parallel to
the road. So you cannot drive behind this house. Now,
to be fair, across the creek and on the other
side of the house there is a parking lot. But
this was That's what's weird because I saw that too.

(43:44):
In the picture it looks like there's two, but no,
what I saw with my own eyes was a bright,
solid orange. It looked to me glowing. It wasn't pulsing
or anything like that, was as all glowing ball of
light about the sides of a cantalope or melon, and

(44:06):
it just went down turned behind the house. Because all
that going down the side of the hill, it's all
bushes and trees, so you couldn't drive down there if
you wanted to. And like I said, I'm standing there looking.
My son's there, so we would have seen anybody else. Yeah,

(44:27):
and if it was coming from the parking lot on
the other side of the creek, we would have seen
it come up to hill, not go down and turn around.
So but what we saw was a saint or not
weak ause my son didn'tee it. What I saw was
just a single ball of light.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Well, also, the deer is right there in the picture
as well.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Oh no, that's I'm sorry, that's something different. Oh that's
a different one. So the one that I the one.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
You're talking about, the rod looking Yes, I'm sorry, I
was looking at the totally wrong set of pictures.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Yeah, so yeah, so that's looking at the house. Yes,
you see the house in the corner, and then it
looked like a rod.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I gotcha. Wow, that is weird. That is really weird.
But so yeah, now, okay, so I see the fencing
in the foreground. So does that then mean that when
you guys were here at this time, that you cannot
just willy nilly walk around this property at that time?

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Correct? That's if you were going to be respectful of
the law, right, that's as far as you can go,
because it went completely around.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah. See, that now makes sense because now that I'm
looking at this picture, you're probably like, why are you
asking about cars? Because this would be a very strange
lights car. You're like, what is this the DeLorean from? Yeah,
that makes sense now because now this would be looking
essentially downhill. It would just not work out that way

(46:13):
for it.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
So you can kind of see the little decorative archway
there with the gate. It went right to the left
of that and over the wall. It's a nice slow straight,
not slow, but a nice lying down and then I
saw it curve to the right.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, that's a weird one. So yeah, and you've heard
me ask this since you've been on board for so long,
But I like to ask this while I'm recording because
people will inevitably ask are these photos just for me
to consume while we're talking, or are some or all
of these, Okay to post with your episode.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Oh no, you can totally share them with whoever. Yeah,
you can post them.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Awesome, Thanks Jim. You know you knew that was coming.
That's something I like to mention, you know. Yeah, well
you know, and I get it. Some of the pictures
are just for my own reference point, which is totally fine. Yeah,
but that's why I always like to make sure because
if photos are mentioned, people are going to go, well,
where the hell are they? Because I want to see
So that way it's covered. Yeah, let's see these pictures.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, oh no, we don't want to get them out the.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
I'm like, come on, like, you're right there, we got
the photos. Let's it's it's at least something, you know.
But I I understand, I understand why sometimes people just
don't want to go there. Well, what a fascinating property
that is. It's a shame that people, as you say,
do jump the fence and do trespass and break the
law and they go in and they just spray paint

(47:47):
and they do dumb s hi t. That is just
just so silly and unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Yeah. So, now with that being said, my son may
or may not have with a friend jumped the fence.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, but he probably didn't go in and start a fire.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
So one weekend, and this was probably a few years
after this, So my son lived three hours south in
me with his mom, and so I would get him
every other weekend. So one week and he came up
and he brought a friend with him because he wanted

(48:26):
to show him the place. I said, yeah, go ahead,
I don't care if you jumped the fence. I'm too old.
I'm waiting here. So they're exploring and they come kind
of booking it back a little bit, not running, but
kind of moving a little bit, and they and I
believe my son, they heard a knock on the door

(48:49):
because they were checking it out, trying to see that
he get in there, and they heard a little too
quick little tap on the door, and they just said, oh, nope,
time ago. So in this store would have been on
the I'm trying to remember it because they went around

(49:10):
and it was on the backside. So yeah, So this is.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Just from the the Google's the Google Monster again and
it says the spirits believed to haunt Rispin Mansion include
Henry Rispin himself, the mansion's original owner, after his financial downfall,
a woman in white who was reportedly murdered in the
mansion when it was an illicit speakeasy during Prohibition, and

(49:37):
the spirits of the homeless who met tragic ends there.
Some also believe the mansion is haunted by the residual
energy of dark rituals from its time as a monastery,
or by the spirits of Native Americans who were forced
into the Santa Cruz mission system. So I would imagine
that even without previous owners or the be easy time,

(50:01):
if you have people coming into any building or structure
or hell, even out in the woods, I mean, that
can seep into the land, I suppose if you want
to go that route. Yeah, if you're doing dark rituals,
that alone, I think is a recipe for bad things
or creepy things or scary things to be hanging out.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Yeah, because there was always there's always rumors and SACS
has its own legends and stuff like have you ever
heard of the Brookdale Lodge?

Speaker 5 (50:39):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yes, is that the one with the water that runs
through it in the Little Girl?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, that is probably about well, that's the Santa Cruz
So that's probably about thirty minutes from the mansion. So
there is a bunch of you know, famous stuff kind
of around there. Yeah like that. Yeah, and also too,
I believe in the early seventies, I think before we

(51:06):
moved there, it was like the murder Couple of the world.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, a lot of dark stuff happened in California specifically.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, well in specifically in this area.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
James Kemper, Oh it is from Cruise.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, James Kemper is like the seven foot five guy, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Mmm, so he he would roam the CRUs Mountains and.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Yeah, so nobody had to change weird stuff there.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
No, that's a.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
That's a giant attacking you have. You have pretty much
no shot.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Yeah, especially since he was pretty much going after colors women.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah, real fair, right, real fair.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Well that Wow, that's a fascinating one. Well, I'm sorry
for getting the pictures mixed up. That would have helped
my line of questioning to pay attention to the I
just went right for the the I was like, oh,
there's the light in the you know, the orb in
the in the trees there and me pull that up.
Sorry about that, all right, So the next one is
a very sighting question mark.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Okay, so This is one where I was living in
San Antonio and coming home from work, and the way
I went kind of took the freeway from the most
work and then I went, it's not a back robe,
but it was a road that wasn't on the it
wasn't the freeway, and there was a I could see

(52:33):
traffic was starting to slow down. This was just a
two lane road, but it was a main road. And
something flew out in front of my car and went
off to the side. It was high enough for me

(52:53):
to see it, and I went, what is that. I
looked over and it went to the side. The road
kind of hovered there for a minute, came back to
pretty much right in front of my car, and then flew.

(53:14):
I hate to say flew, but it went straight up. Now,
this thing looked to be about I don't know, ten
inches tall maybe, so it's not like it was. It
wasn't a bird, and it wasn't a humming bird. That's
kind of almost how it flew, you know, like a hummingbird,

(53:36):
but it wasn't a hunting bird. Because the word part,
and this is where it's gonna get weird. It looked
like whatever it was was wearing pants. Whoa, and I
does it move so quickly? It's like, that's what kind
of caught my attention. And then as soon as I

(53:59):
went that, and then it went up and away. And
so then this point I got the reason why I
brought the traffic is at this point I wasn't moving.
I was slowing down, and that's when it When I
was slowing down, it kind of flew and flew across

(54:22):
the other side of the road, got to the edge
of the road, came back and literally stopped probably five
ft in front of my car. And then as soon
as I thought, are those pants? And then it went
straight up. I straight up, It went up out of
my sight because I was sitting in my car. But

(54:45):
the way it moved, I guess that that's the way
I have. How ferries move is like a hummingbird, you
know that real quick, you know, moving back and forth.
And so from what I remember, it's not like they
were feathers. So they weren't feathers hanging down. They look

(55:08):
like pants. That's that's the best way I can explain it.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
What kind of pants are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (55:16):
I think this is I think I'm crazy. When I
said nineteen forties trousers. Really, that's what literally came to
my mind when I saw it. That's kind of what
it looked like, you know, not you know, like that

(55:36):
that baggie you know, pressed look, and that's kind of
what it looks like to me. That's why I should
have put multiple question marks, because I questioned myself on
it all the time. But that's that's what I saw,
and I'll be quite fair, that's what I thought. I saw.
Something did fly in front of my car because it

(56:00):
caught my attention and I was, like I said, slowing
down because of traffic. So I was able to get
a good look at it because I had now stopped.
I had stopped by the time it got to the
side of the road, and then so that when it
was in front of me, I was stopped. So I

(56:21):
don't you hear stories of something coming and flying in
front of your carts to stop you, like like a
guardian angel time day. But this wasn't anything because traffic
was already slowing down. Everybody's going very slow anyway, so
it wouldn't have been anything to save me from I
guess I should say.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
So.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I'm sure that you've seen photos of the Luna moth, right,
and a lot of times that's what people jump to,
which rightfully, so in some cases it certainly probably could
be one of these luna moths, but they have these
two parts off of I believe it's part of their
wings that come down and people go, well, that's what

(57:04):
looks like legs to some people, hanging down whilst the
wings are still flying, which to me, I'm thinking, if
it's attached to the wings, wouldn't that make these quote
unquote legs look like they were running or flapping very
strangely to me, it would seem pretty obvious that that
would be a moth. But did you get any sense

(57:25):
of the upper body, for lack of a better terms, Yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
That's why I was saying. As soon as I looked
at it, it was the idea of it of something
having the pants. That's what I concentrated on. And then
it just went and flipped away.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
So, because as soon as it came back into view
to where it was right in front of me, I
guess the legs or whatever were in direct eye sight
line of sight. I didn't have to look down or
up that it was right there. So but yeah, it was.

(58:11):
It was weird.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I would love to see something with pants or a
little set of Nikes or Chucks or something just flying past.
I mean that that's awesome. I love that one. Yeah,
but I do again, I appreciate that question mark because
you're like, hey, I'm sharing this, I'm sharing as much
information as I have with it. Make your own decision.
I don't know what I saw, but it was it

(58:32):
was at least something to mention because it is strange.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Yeah, because it's I think at that point I had
been to some sort of cryptic cod that was about
an hour from my house. I met Ken Gearhard talk
to him a little bit, and then there was a

(58:59):
guy out that and I've always wondered if, if if
this was the two guests you had on who are
the two goals that do fairy stuff?

Speaker 5 (59:11):
You mean?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Do you mean Tina and Laura? Yeah, of free free
will healing.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yeah, Okay, I should probably look them up because I
thought they may have been because the person who did
that bigfoot mapping project he was there. Lyle Woodburn was there,
so there are some big name people there. So I

(59:36):
remember looking at some of their stuff, so I kind
of had something envisioned in my head. I guess when
I saw this thing and thought, I think I remember
when it went across and stopped, because it seemed to
hover there for a second. And then I do remember
thinking on the way back, is that a fairy? And

(59:59):
then like I said, I well, pants, and then it
was gone. So it was pretty quick. But I do
remember what point thinking, is that a fair?

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I guess I could see once your brain goes are
those pants? Your Your eyes are probably pretty trained on
that particular point of interest for maybe a tick longer
than if, for whatever reason, it didn't seem to have
pants on, you might have taken in more information with
your eyebone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
So yeah, all right, So the next one, obviously you
already know one of my questions, but let's not jump
ahead because I obviously did. So now you have one
of the questions that I have about one of the
pictures in this next story. But okay, so set this up.
This one. Next one is something in the trees.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Okay, so at this point, so this is at this point,
I'm not in Missouri yet, but my son is, and
so he's out in an area Bates City, Missouri, which
is probably about it's to the east of where I am,
so he's probably forty five minutes to an hour from
Kansas City. Anyway, I bought him a trout cam for

(01:01:14):
his birthday because they live in this very very tiny
neighborhood that's everybody. The smallest lots four acres and the
largest lot is ten acres, and it's just about there's
a group of homes around this man made small man

(01:01:34):
made lake. And so behind his house is where this
Droul camera is. Now he has or he his mom
and stepdad have four acres, so there's a little bit
of property behind them, but there also is other homes
that you can see. There's one home across one area.

(01:01:56):
But where this is pointing, there is a field much
further in the distance, and there, to be fair, there
is a road that comes up probably, oh god, it

(01:02:17):
is I'm trying to think from where that is one
hundred yards from where I think the point we're talking
about is behind where that spot is. Because the spot
that we're talking about is right on the border of

(01:02:37):
my son's property line. And where this is is there's
a common walking path. Now it's not paved, it's just
this area that people can walk on. So that you're
not really walking on somebody's property, and so people do

(01:02:59):
walk back, but in the trail cam, as you can
see with the pictures, So let me see which ones
I send to you so I don't get this wrong.
So there's one I think I sent the one with

(01:03:20):
it's just the deer in the picture. That's the first one.
The next one is the deer still in the picture.
But then you see that little orb off to the left. Yeah,
so these are being clicked off in succession. Then the
next one isn't it's just what appears to be car headlights. Well,

(01:03:43):
if you like zoom in on it, it's too close
for headlights because of words standing and we all kind
of know where I'm going with this. And then when
you go to the next one you can see it's gone.
And then for perspective, I took a picture. I did

(01:04:06):
not take the picture. This is the same trail cam,
same location the next day. So if you can see
where that walking fence is, that's where people would walk, okay,
but you can also see how high that is. Now
I wish we had a problem with the trail cam.

(01:04:31):
So once I got up here, this is probably this
is going to be a date. Okay, So I came
up in twenty four, so about a year and a
half later, I moved up here and I'm like, let's
go show me where this thing's at bro And so
we go out there and I go, you stand out

(01:04:52):
where you think it is. And this is where a
mistake on my part we didn't leave. He had taken
the camera down that there was an issue with it,
so I couldn't get a picture of him, who was
six' four standing out. There but he put his hand
up on he put his hands straight, up and we

(01:05:14):
both agree that's about where the eyes. Were so he's
six' four holding his hands, straight up and that's where
about the eyes would, have been so it would have
been right off the eighth. Foot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
MARK yeah i am trying to zoom in on these
things because now THAT now i realized that the daytime
picture is actually this. Same, incident uh that is that? Is,
INTERESTING yeah i mean did he did he ever have

(01:05:51):
any strange sounds or anything strange on. The property he,
has had he has heard some things there and he
is a.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Nature guy he, loves hiking he, loves animals and he's
into the stuff just as MUCH as, i am so
whenever we come, across something you got to check this out.
Or whatever and he has heard some things that his
analytical brain kind of even though he is, a believer

(01:06:24):
he likes to figure. Things out he couldn't say, if, it,
well no that might have been, a bobcat because they do.
HAVE bobcats i think they even had a mountain lion
once on the property in. Their property so he couldn't say,

(01:06:45):
for sure but he has heard things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
And he's thinking that it would have been on top of. The, fence.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
No he's thinking it was behind, the fence walking that
path when whatever it was saw the deer and then
stopped to look at, the deer and the deer just happened,
to move and that's what, he got. You, know YEAH

(01:07:14):
what i was thinking was it's watching. The deer the
deer's covering the camera that's right in front. Of it
it steps away from the camera and whatever it is
gets a. Picture taken, it, SAYS oh i, gotta go
and then boogied.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
How high is? That fence.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
It's probably about four feet, four, feet yeah about. Four feet.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
It's. Definitely strange and what's cool is with you being
willing to share. The pics people can comment and make
up their, own MINDS BUT i i love that people
have the trail coms up and occasionally something strange you
can kind of be shown on these trail cams and as,
you say maybe whatever it was, did realize they can

(01:08:09):
they can hear it or sense that it's gone off
and boogie do on out, of there because as we,
well know there's how many trail cams up in the
woods and we should be getting Pictures of bigfoot, probably
daily but we.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Never, do yeah the only thing that kind of throws
me off is there is that orange light that's just in.
One picture if it's a car driving by the way these,
pictures click you would see it here and then there and.

(01:08:41):
Then there So now i'm not. Saying this, you know people, have,
SAID oh I saw i saw a big orb AND
then I. Saw bigfoot i'm not. Saying that i'm Just
saying i'm saying that there's two weird things. Happening here
they just happened to be in like almost the same.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Exact, location WELL and i will say that when it's
just the, single light it's. Really, BRIGHT yes i mean
it's like you can see the star shape pattern coming
off around it because it's, SO bright.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
I know and it's and when you go to the,
daytime picture you can see there's nothing there that can
make that. Bright.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
LIGHT yeah i WONDER if i plug this into even
just a canvor or something and did like the reverse negative.
Editing stuff see if ANYTHING pops i might do that
just to see.

Speaker 5 (01:09:40):
For.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Fun, YEAH see i just have it's on. My phone that's,
you know and that's the. ONLY way i don't have
a computer to really mess. With it and you can't
do too much on. Your iPhone but you know the
one where it's JUST when i think they're the, two eyes,

(01:10:00):
you know it's it. Gets, digitized yeah it's looking, all
blockie but because it almost looks LIKE it's i don't
want to say, outlining anything but it almost looks like
it's illuminating something. Around, IT.

Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
I do i do see when you, ZOOM in i
do see the the blocks as, you say which is
there's nothing that you can do. About that, but, yeah
Yeah maybe i'll play with these a little bit and
see if something. Pops, out yeah that's an. Interesting one
does he still have? That, property, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Yeah yeah they still, live there and uh he put a. Different,
trail yeah he put a different trail came out because
this one was one of. Those, ones uh it had
a sailor attached to it so it would send you
notification so you could and they send you the pictures

(01:11:00):
directly to. Your phonem so like the, other one sometimes
he'll forget to go, check it and the one that's
out there now will if you don't check it, soon
enough it just goes over. The card so but he's,
checked it and a few times he has, checked it

(01:11:22):
we haven't really. Seen anything we're. Out, there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
YEAH if i ever listen in a place, LIKE that
i would one hundred percent be getting the best trail
CAMS that i, could afford with real time alerts and
all this. Other stuff, of course it's it's kind of
one of those things where, YOU go, i, Mean yeah
i'm trying to. See something but then if you're laying
in bed and you see something in, real time, you're,
like OH well i live, here, now great and there's

(01:11:48):
that right, out there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Yeah exactly, like, okay, YEAH yeah i want to, see
IT but i don't Know if i'm going to get
up and. Go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Look yeah totally different to actually physically have that heaveen at.
Your house and also that's with anything and everything if
you have creepy ufo stuff and little gray dudes at
the foot of, your bed or bigfoot peeking in, your
window or ghosts in the closet or in the basement
as or shadow people like they always like to it's

(01:12:16):
always a closet or a basement or. A, Hallway right
it's not always, strike that but a lot of times
that's not an. Ideal.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Situation no and and when, YOU yeah i think it
might be a, Big foot i'll. Say it when you
go to the what, is it The big foot? Mapping
project there are sightings. Near us.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Have you thought about?

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
Near?

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
HIM yeah i mean have you thought about going out
there and doing some woodennocks or whoops? Or whatnot that
we know what we're saying, To them, so.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Yeah no we just because you know it is. A. Neighborhood,
yeah so and, you know obviously if you're knocked around,
a tree nobody's going to, hear that BECAUSE like, i
said there it's three to four it's four acres is the, smallest,
lot right which is what, they have and then the

(01:13:20):
biggest lot is. Ten acres so there are, a bunch but,
you know a lot of separation. From people, but no
we know we don't run there because he hasn't seen
anything or hurt anything in. A, while yeah so well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Then at, THAT point, i mean even though your acres and,
acres apart it's still your control group is known. Human
being so if you're whooping, or knocking chances are if
you get, something back you got, to, GO well i
definitely can't say that's bigfoot because they're surrounded by. Other,
people yeah at least in other areas you can kind, of,

(01:14:03):
go oh, Got them i'm six miles deep in the
bush and that Was weird and then, you, go, okay
yes that actually was weird because, YOU know i hiked
six miles back and it's not even a trail or
whatever the. Situation was, but yeah anytime you're in a
neighborhood and plus he, lives there that's, his neighbors and
if somehow they could pinpoint that's coming from, his house,

(01:14:24):
they'd go what's with so? And so and with the
what's he? Whooping out like you know he's doing finding
bigfoot stuff? Out there? What's, doing yeah you don't want
all the neighbors to think you're. Totally weird, somewhat, weird
okay but, UH yeah i get that. All right so,

(01:14:46):
next up you mentioned a couple of more, points here
and that you mentioned exploding head syndrome that you had
you had an experience.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
With, That yeah so this was probably about four. Years
ago it was right about probably like six o'clock in,
the MORNING because i was getting up at seven in,
the MORNING and i REMEMBER i'd i had, WOKEN up,

(01:15:15):
i THINK and i was kind of laying on my
right SIDE and, i, said, OH okay i got another
HOUR before i have to, get UP and i fell back.
To SLEEP so i don't know how much longer. It
was then all of, A sudden i heard this and

(01:15:36):
it it was like right in front of. My face,
and NOW like, I said i'm in my bed on my,
right SIDE and i opened my eyes up, real quick
and there's there's nothing. Around me there's. NOTHING there, I

(01:15:58):
mean i, heard it oh, my eyes and YOU know i,
have roommates but you know there's nobody in my room.
With me and SO when, i, went oh, that's WEIRD
and i went back, To bed god went. To work

(01:16:20):
AND when i came home from work, that night two
roommates that have rooms. NEAR me, I, said hey did
you hear anything strange? THIS morning i told them what. Happened,
THAT no i didn't, Hear anything so whatever it was
was just localized and it was just and it was
about that, loud too if not maybe a little bit

(01:16:43):
louder after. The word it startled me and woke. Me, up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yeah it's not a nice way to be. Woken, up
no it. Really ISN'T and I think i think that
is THE proper i kind of spit out that. SYNDROME
part i think that. Is, CORRECT actually i think it
is called exploding. Head syndrome and it's not like you
have some kind of a disease, or, something yeah or.
An affliction it's just one of those really strange things
that our brains do when it's just at whatever level

(01:17:13):
of sleep or restfulness that. We're at it's it's, messed
up is what. It is and, thank goodness it doesn't happen.
Very Often i've i've had something not like a person Hollering.
Thank god that would, really suck because then you're probably
in fight or flight mode all of, a sudden thinking
someone is literally right next to your ear while you're laying.

(01:17:35):
In bed so. That's, HORRIBLE yes, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
I think i can't say for sure that it was a.
HUMAN voice i think it's just me trying to put
a label, on it first, of all and, me too
trying to. Reproduce it, You know i'm a person trying to.
Reproduce it SO but, i mean it did sound like

(01:18:01):
IT was i don't want to say, human made but
it did sound like it was. A natural, somebody said somebody. Doing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Something yeah not?

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Not, pleasant, yeah no not pleasant.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
Than NOT.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
And i guess it's good though that you talk to
the roommates and, they're, like no we didn't, hear anything
because then, you, go okay well good that probably was
just literally in my. Own head and it, you know
where we're living is not haunted by a very auditory
leaning ghost of. Some, sort no that would not. Be good,

(01:18:38):
All right so this, LAST point i suppose a. Phantom
smell is that what we're going to be. Talking, about
yeah so this is kind OF.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Like i. Was saying my father had passed in, twenty
nineteen and it's two thy, TWENTY three, i Think and
i'm Living in texas and because my daughter and son

(01:19:10):
in law Moved to texas and they had, a baby my,
First GRANDCHILD so i moved out there, with them and
my son was already Up in missouri with his mom.
And stepdad he had come Down. For christmas so we
are going to HE and i are at. THE store

(01:19:32):
i think my daughter was with us for, some REASON
because i remember her, being there and we're going down
the aisle to get the stuff. We need we're the
only ones in. The isle we're in the middle of,
the aisle and what we're buying is stuff for my.
Father's sauce, my grandmother, his mom would make sauce and

(01:19:56):
meatballs and that was our. Absolute favorite so when when my,
grandma passed my dad made it and so, we all
all the kids were taught how to make the SAUCE
and i luckily make it, pretty WELL and i taught,
my son and so we're out getting stuff. For that

(01:20:19):
all of, A sudden, I'M like i, TOLD myself i,
go here you get to come over and. Smell this they,
came over, smelt it and they instantly both said. Pop
up my Dad Wore calvin Klein up session cologne from

(01:20:42):
the day it came out till. He passed so that's
the only colone he. Ever wore it smelt so strong
where we WERE that i told. MY kid i didn't
SAY what. I smelled, i said come over here and.
Smell this what do? You smell and they both smell

(01:21:04):
and Then. Went papa so with the setup of this
IS like, i say we're in the middle of this grocery, Store,
aisleway yes there's, multiple people but we were the only
ones in, the aisle and nobody hadn't walked. Past, us
so like you get it all, the time somebody walks,

(01:21:25):
past you they're, already gone and then you. Smell them that.
Hadn't happened it was just we were in there trying to.
Find something so we were in there for, a minute
trying to find a certain type, of sauce and THAT'S
when i and then all of, A sudden i. Smell
it and, SO yeah i think my father stopped by

(01:21:47):
to say he was happy with us making. A, sauce.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Yeah that is. Really cool and even as, you say let's,
just say somehow somebody from another aisle there cologne wafted
over the fact that you guys were collecting the ingredients for.
His sauce and that happened even that alone is. Just cool, but,
yeah also like, you said nobody had walked. By you

(01:22:10):
normally don't smell someone's cologne unless it is a wild
amount of cologne on. Another FILE so i love. That
story thank you so much for. Sharing, that, yeah oh.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
No, problem yeah And it's Calvium. CLANM session, i mean
who even wears?

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Right yeah that that was out a long long.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Time, ago yeah he. Had to it was kind of
like almost a, running joke only we actually was a.
Running joke, all right who's going to be able To
find Calvin cleanup session for Dad? For christmas or.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
The biggest bottle?

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
Of? IT yeah, i mean and it was it would, be,
like okay it's my turn to try to, find this
and that would Be a. Christmas gift whenever he was
kind of getting out of it what, it was would
have to try to find. It somewhere that was.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
REALLY cool i love that that stuff, is TOUCHING and
i do feel like they they do know how To say,
i'm okay or thank, you guys thank you for making,
the sauce, you know giving a high five from. UP
there i, LOVE it i love LOVE love.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
I really like that one, because yeah BECAUSE like, i
said both kids Were. Like papa that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Is, Cool, WELL JIM i i appreciate you being willing to.
Come on and also you've been a Long time, patreon
MEMBER so i cannot thank you enough for being willing
to spend any money to support me in the show
and keep. That going and you've been around for a
very long time as a listener and, A supporter so
thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
So, much oh. YOU'RE welcome i look forward. TO this
i get an email a, Little vacations, I'M like i
gotta listen to this, one now and, so, YEAH no i.
Enjoy them you do a very. Good job, Thank.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
You jim, and hey if you you hear anything more
at your son's house or there's more, Things collected i'm
back on for. Part two you KNOW that i love
part twos and part three and all of these of everybody,
Coming back so you are welcome back anytime if you
get more. Strange experiences but other, Than that i'm going
to see you Over on patreon and the discord and

(01:24:14):
the live chats. And things so, all.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Right thank you. Very. Much, Eddon.

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