iNTO THE FRAY 520: Robert 3.0 Los Angeles

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
The infinite complaces people went to and pro fears about
their little affairs, serene in the assurance of their dominion
over this small binning fragment of solar driftwood, which, by
chance or design, man has inherited out of the dark
mystery of time and face.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
On this episode of Into the Fray, I welcome Eric
on with me, and Eric, right out of the gate,
I'm going to say, after I say this little intro part,
don't tell me anything of the details of what's coming
or because I don't even know this subject matter, which
I actually personally love. But you say, yeah, I love it.

(01:21):
So you say you stumbled across my podcast via a
Reddit post while looking for more information about minds, and
that you had a strange encounter in March. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Absolutely, absolutely, Can I tell you a specific episode?

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah. It was the Florida episode of the guy going
on spring Break, I believe, with the friends and that
kind of strange person that they made on time.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Are you talking about my buddy Robert?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I believe so, Yeah, I believe. So. It was a
few weeks when I listened to it. That was the
first episode I ever listened to of yours, and I
was like, oh my god, I gotta hit her up
if I could share my story, because I was like,
it's just opened. I was doing research, like you said
on Reddit, because I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, there
is something else to this earth. And so I had

(02:12):
listened to the podcast to make sure that, like there's
other things going on, and I got the confirmation and
I was like, oh my god, this. Yeah, I was like,
let me hit her up.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, now I'm even more excited because the Robert episode.
And then I don't know Eric, if you know this,
but there is a follow up episode where the other person,
the gal that saw Robert, she came on later. I
can send you that out.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, Please send me that yes, because that's what actually
made my bones shiver was her reaction. It was like
there was the confirmation that he needed that he wasn't
because you know, of course, going through life, people are
like are you sure? Were you high? Do you have
any mental And it's like when you get that confirmation

(03:02):
from somebody else that's seen it with their own eyes,
it's the spookiest thing ever. It's the spookiest thing ever.
So yeah, you could send me that episode.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I would love that I absolutely will. Yeah, and many
times I have called out because I don't I don't
know how much of my show you've listened to, but
I don't have a whole lot of experiences like some
of the folks that I talked to. But Robert has
always stuck in my mind, and I'm thinking I've always
even called out verbally over the quote unquote airwaves, the

(03:31):
Internet airwaves. Hey Robert, if you're out there, I'd love
to meet you, you know, And then some people are like.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Really would really because he's kind of freaky, you know,
to say the least. All Right, Well, Eric, wherever, however
much you need to set up, you know, with location
or whatever whatever. I know this is very recent, but
however much information we need before you dive in, I'm
gonna sit back and I'm gonna zip it up.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Okay, So yeah, I was gonna say a little backstory,
and you know, not to stereotype, but just for background.
You know, I just finished school in December and just graduated.
I got my first apartment this year, well actually last year,
so about twenty four I just got my dream car.
Like life was pretty good before this encounter. You know,

(04:20):
my mental state was perfectly fine. I just celebrated my
birthday in March and this had happened like a week after,
and so, you know, I'm doing I feel like I'm
doing pretty well for myself. I'm working in the field
that I've dreamed of working since I was a kid.
I just landed a job. It was just so much
going on at the beginning of the year that I

(04:41):
was grateful for and looking forward to, and I did
still continue on doing. I live over here in La
so a major city, and we don't I don't hear
anybody have any strange encounters or paranormal I guess you
could say, on their day to day, so so pretty

(05:01):
you're your normal guy from la you know. And before
this event, I had things that I was looking forward to.
I had goals, I was accomplishing a lot. I'm my
mid twenties, so you know, life was life was pretty good.
But after this encounter, it has completely changed my perception

(05:22):
of the world and I actually don't really talk to
anybody anymore. It's just really kind of like mess with
my head. So I wanted to come on here and
share and see if there's any other experiences. Maybe people
can you know, speak up after or maybe people can
be like, you know what, that sounds just like this,
you know whatever. So I was like, let me hit

(05:43):
you up and make sure that I'm not sounding crazy,
because it did kind of make me question my sanity
for a little bit. But I got back on track because,
like I said, I just finished school, so I kind
of looked at it from like a scientific lens, like
what did I see? How did that happen? I never

(06:05):
heard this happen before. Is there other stories like this?
Like I really looked at it from like, ay, educational
you because it's easy to get into the WU and
all of that. You know what I'm saying. But I
was like, let me really make sure before I go
into hermit mode that this is something out of the
Ordin area. And it was.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I mean, that's pretty much the entire reason that I
do this show. My inception into the podcasting world was
a Bigfoot only podcast, but I've never seen a big fit.
I just loved that subject. I've actually seen a couple
of other things, especially one main event that was I mean,
it blew my mind. It's exactly what you said, where

(06:47):
you have this moment of okay. There are definitely other
things out there that we cannot explain, and that no,
the scientific method cannot recreate it in a lab, but
they are still there. My main focus, that's the whole
reason of the show, is like, you just don't want
to be alone in this, So I so identify with that.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Thank you. Yeah. And I had tried to share a
little bit on Reddit prior to come in here, and
in the subreddit, as Reddit does usually, a lot of
people were like proof do you have? Pictures? Do you have?
And they were like they were like, well, how do
you know? And da da da da da, And I
was just like, it made me realize that a lot

(07:33):
of people humans, as humans do, we look for logic
and we look for reasoning, right and with this field,
with this phenomenon, whatever you want to call it, you
have to let the logic go. And that's what I've
learned just in these few months. I was like, if
I try to look at this from like a Okay,

(07:53):
well this happened, because this happens and humans do this. No,
this it literally makes no sense, and you kind of
feel better knowing that it doesn't make any sense, Like
if that's if that makes sense, if that makes sense,
But a lot of us humans. We look for reasoning,
and we look for logic and things, and if there's

(08:14):
not sources or other credits on it, it's kind of discredited.
And I think that that's a little bit unfair because
if we are dealing with something supernatural and of another phenomenon,
for that to work on our human logic, you know,
it's kind of rare. So I can't wait to tell

(08:37):
you more.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Go right ahead.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, So this was, yeah, a week after my birthday
this year, and I'm in my apartment alone, which I
love living alone, so it's not like I was scared
or anything. I love living alone. And I'm getting ready
to see my mother the next day. I believe this
is like a Thursday or something. I'm waiting to start
that new job, so I kind of had like quite

(08:59):
a free time on my hand. And I'm an only child,
so going to see my mom the next day. It's
maybe about eleven, no later than twelve o'clock, and I'm
in my kitchen watching TV while while while I'm in
the kitchen and out of nowhere, I hear this car
alarm outside. Now again, background information, I live in LA

(09:23):
a major city, so it could be anybody's car alarm.
And even if in the past if I heard a
car alarm, I would have just kind of kept going
and let it died off or whatever. But the moment
the car alarm went off, something told me that's my car.
And it was so weird now looking back at it,

(09:44):
because I would never go outside before for a car
alarm er. I mean, Shannon, even just think about you.
If you hear a car alarm, you'll wait for it
to go off before you actually maybe go check to
see if it's yours. But this time I was just
I instantly knew it was mine, and like I instantly
went outside. It was kind of like a I feel
like it was a hypnotic state because like I said,

(10:05):
my car link could go off right now, and like
I'll wait till it does it five times before I
go outside. So I live in an apartment. I go
downstairs and I'm like, that's my car. Like it's just
like a undeniable feeling of like that's my car. And
I have no past telepathic or psychic premonitions or anything

(10:27):
like that. Again, back for background, I'm six', one you,
know pretty tall, guy not normally scared of. Anything you,
know so went downstairs and As i'm walking to my,
car it's parked on the. STREET i just kind of
hear like this voice or LIKE i, guess a. Feeling

(10:49):
AND i had looked into this, too and like us
in the THREE, d we can just of course, hear see,
feel you, know the basic, senses but it was more
so like a whole bodily kind Of and my voice
is shaking While i'm talking about, this like a whole
kind of feeling throughout my body that, like there's somebody

(11:12):
by your. Car As i'm walking to the, CAR i
can't see it. Yet So i'm walking to the car
AND i have my phone And i'm, like somebody's buying my.
Car somebody's buy my. Car And i'm like it's a
street full of. Cars it's like this is. Weird So i'm, like,
Okay So i'm walking, WALKING i get to the car

(11:32):
and there's somebody in a hood standing by my car
AND i say somebody BECAUSE i wasn't able to make
out the, face but the immense full fear THAT i
got by looking at this, person it Was i've never
experienced anything like it. Before and LIKE i, Said i'm
six ONE i did karate in the, past LIKE i

(11:54):
played sports at. School so and this is my new,
car my brand new, car so of COURSE i like
somebody was tampering with my, CAR i would confront. Them
And i'm FROM la so you, know none of us
here are shy to say anything or anything like. That
but THE i just got the instant amount of dread
and like my voice is shaken right now thinking about,

(12:17):
it but Just i've never felt a feeling like this
before in my. Life and something told me that IF
i go any, closer LIKE i don't want to know
what's going to. Happen and WHEN i was looking up this,
subject a bunch of people were Recommending The gift Of.
FEAR i don't know if you heard of that, book
but it's a book about kind of like going with

(12:38):
your gut instinct among like the first few seconds that
you encounter. Somebody so after getting this feeling of, DREAD
i literally stopped in my path and it's something told,
ME i just got this feeling of, sinister. Sinister that's
like ALL i could. Feel so me at my big,

(13:00):
AGE i started running LIKE i literally booked. IT i
didn't figure it, out and for, context there was no broken.
Window there was no, keying there was no breaking into the.
CAR i just booked it AND i wasn't trying to
figure out the, rest which is super weird looking back at,

(13:20):
it because, again this is my new, car and you,
Know i'm non, confrontational but of COURSE i defend myself
and SO i would usually be, like what are you
doing scare them? Off there was none of. That it
was literally the definition of flight or, fight, literally and
SO i. FLEW i ran out of, there and As i'm,

(13:41):
running it's so weird looking back into. This there's this
other person in a hood and something in my head
tells me that's the same. Person SO i And i'm
dearly sorry for this now looking back at. It BUT
i pushed the person kind of like shoved them out

(14:03):
the way because they were, like spank dead in the
middle of WHERE i was. Running AND i hear like a,
ugh like a you, know kind of like a somebody
had got, pushed and it sounded like a woman's. Voice but,
Again i'm scared out of my. Life so but this
is twelve o'clock at night on a, weekday SO i
was surprised THAT i seen two people when usually my

(14:25):
street is pretty empty after like ten or, Eleven SO
i pushed this. PERSON i don't think they, fail BUT
i heard like a woman's, voice AND i keep running
past my, house which is, weird like why DID i
not just go? Inside and there's an elementary school near

(14:47):
near my, neighborhood and for some odd reason this, night
the gate to the elementary school was open at ten
and eleven o'clock at, night WHICH i just think is so.
Weird So i'm, running, running. Running What i'm feeling like
is running for my, life because, again that figure was
not that was not the normal PERSON i encounter AND

(15:10):
i actually work with the, public so just having that
feeling just literally spooked. Me So i'm, running, running, running
AND i run to the to the school AND i
go inside the. Gate WHY i did, THIS i don't.
Know but the next part is even. Creepier SO i
run into the, SCHOOL i go through the gates And
i'm like walking, now like what the hell was? That

(15:33):
like why was he by my car and? THEM i
don't know what it was and how DID i know
it was by my? Car and As i'm saying that to,
MYSELF i look up and there he is sitting on the.
Bench And i'm only saying he because something would not

(15:54):
make me look at it LIKE i don't know. What
So i'm walking. Past so there's a bench in the
elementary school and there the person is sitting at the
bench like they were waiting for. Me BUT i just
got done. Running they look completely like like they've been
waiting for. Me he almost like they looked like they

(16:15):
didn't run at. All and it's about a not a,
block but at the end of the block from where
my car, was so you have to go down the.
Street but if he did beat, me he would have
had to ran way faster THAN i. Did but this
individual didn't look like they ran at. All it didn't
look like they ran at. All they were sitting at the.
Bench and what's so sinister is BECAUSE i couldn't look.

(16:39):
Directly it's kind of, like do you, know like if
you're like walking in a living room or something in
front of THE tv and there's somebody on the couch
and you can see them through your, periphial but you
don't look directly at. Them that's exactly how it. Was
Because i'm telling, You, shennon something would not make me
look at this person LIKE i just got the most

(17:01):
biggest sense of. Evilness and it's the same individual that
was at the. Car so BUT i can see that
he has this day or. Whatever i'm assuming was a
heat BECAUSE i didn't see any, hair so just to,
ASSUME i would guess it was a. Male but the
biggest ear to ear, smile that's ALL i can. See,
LIKE i can see this big smile and him just

(17:23):
sitting and looking at. Me But i'm just walking, past
Like i'm not, looking like you're. Not there's no Way
i'm about to look over, there and there's no way
you got here as fast and faster THAN i. Did
SO i turn around And i'm like, nope like instantly,
nope And i'm like what the. Fuck i'm, like what the?

(17:45):
Fuck and SO i leave the. School he's still just sitting,
there doesn't come up or say, anything just sitting kind
of like. Watching AND i leave the school And i'm
looking at my. Phone, well, no what made me look
at my phone was my phone is about to. Die
AND i pull out my phone and there it, is

(18:06):
my phone is about to. Die so Now i'm under
the impression of Like i'm being. Targeted MAYBE i didn't
want to say, targeted but like preyed. Upon this was
the first time in my life THAT i ever felt so,
Small LIKE i, said Like i'm six,' one. Don karate in,
the past there's all type of, you know criminal activity HERE,

(18:28):
in la but this situation made me FEEL like i
was literally being hunted BY some i don't. Even know
it didn't feel like a human because to stop all,
OF this i just would have, been, like hey why
are you? Following me, you know like, no doubt. You
KNOW so i leave. The school something tells me my
phone is about. TO die i look, at it and

(18:49):
my phone is about. To die And as i'm getting
the Phone and i'm about to call nine to one
One because i'm being Followed and i'm getting, creeped out
my phone. Starts glitching it's the weirdest. Thing ever but
it looked like my phone was like like kind of

(19:10):
Like and i'm shaking right now thinking, about it but
It was it's just like It wasn't it looked like
it was like it's so weird, to explain but like
it was kind of, like dissolving. Not dissolving AND like,
i said, no drugs no mental health problems. At all
but it looked like it was just like take like it.

(19:30):
Was buffering there, you go like my phone. Was buffering
And then, i'm like oh, my god like.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
What is?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Going on So now i'm like. Freaking out, i'm like
this person's by. MY car i go to, the school,
running away trying to. Get away they're at. THE school
i feel like my phone is about. To die my
phone is about. To die not only is it about,
to die but my phone. Is glitching, i'm like what
the hell is? Going ON so i made some weird

(20:02):
connection that my phone WAS that i was. GETTING tracked i, Was,
like okay maybe that's what's. Going on, i'm like maybe
this person is a hacker and maybe they hacked in.
My PHONE and i know this sounds extremely like, paranormal
WOO but i was like. Paranoid WO but i, was,
like okay maybe maybe you're you're. Tracking ME so i had.

(20:24):
THE idea i, was like let me bury my phone
behind these trash cans and get the hell out. Of
here AND so i put my phone behind the trash
Can and, i'm, Like, nope like if you're following me through,
my phone if you're, some stalker whatever's, going on you're
not about to, find, me like, Hell NO so i
put my phone behind the TRASH where i could know

(20:45):
and come back to it Later and shannon after that
there's a. Time loss it honestly. Depresses me IT'S knowing
i lost so. Much time this was at eleven. Twelve
o'clock and the NEXT thing i can remember is it,

(21:08):
being daytime so and IT'S and i just feel so
like mentally like. Fucked THAT after i hit, MY phone
i can't. Remember ANYTHING so i put the phone behind the.
Trash cans there's a gap in, the time and NEXT thing,

(21:34):
i know, it's daylight early in. The morning, I'M like
i don't WANT to i don't want to say like
teleported to, my house But like i'm back in the
front street of my apartment and there's the guy with
the hood coming out of my APARTMENT and i literally

(21:58):
almost like fall to my knees and want to. Start
sobbing BUT then i turn around and my mom, is
Here like i've been, calling you where the hell have?
You Been and, i'm like oh, my god thank god,
You're here like what the fuck is? Going on and,
she's like what is wrong? With You and i'm, like
no Like like i'm trying to TALK And i i'm just.

(22:22):
Completely baffled i'm just. Completely baffled, i'm like how are?
You here how is he walking out of my house?
Right now how is it the morning? Time already I'm
just i'm. Completely shocked I'm Just i'm i'm. So perplexed

(22:43):
and looking back at, IT now i, think about and,
you know trigger warning, to ANYBODY but i think about
when somebody's been maybe like, you know drugged at a
party or taking advantage of or anything of, that sort
when they're trying to recount and they can't. Really remember

(23:03):
that's the only SIMILARITY that i. Could feel AND like,
I said i was at. HOME alone i, WASN'T drinking
i wasn't. EVEN eating I believe i was washing dishes when,
it happened nothing of. THE story i was totally at peace,
at HOME and i was brought to my car to
start this wild night. Of adventures so my mom, is
like come to, a car like what are you? Talking

(23:25):
About and, I'M like I just i don't EVEN think i.
Could talk and she was trying to have me drink,
some Water and, i'm, like NO like i don't need,
Any water like what? The fuck is, going ON but
i didn't know what was going on to kind of
put it. At words so she's freaking out and, she's
like do you to go to? A hospital are? You

(23:47):
okay i'm, Like no i'm. Totally fine, she's, like well
let's go in your House and i'm, like, no, no,
No no like he just came out of. The house
and so she's trying to figure out who he Is and,
I'M like i, Don't KNOW like i can't even TELL
you i wasn't dating at. This time i'm not even,

(24:08):
Online heavily like there's just no reason for somebody to
want to come and, GET me i would. Feel like
and so, she's like take a, chill, pill relax. Calm
DOWN like. I said we're at her car parked outside of.
My apartment, she's like you don't want to go inside
your Apartment and i'm, like, no, no NO like i
don't want to. Go inside and the final Part that

(24:31):
i'm going to tell you is what scares me. The
most so we're sitting at the Car and i'm on
the passenger SIDE and i see this guy coming down
through the street coming, towards us and he's walking in
that same emmensful fear, of dread that same like flight

(24:53):
or fright kind, of situation but now with, my MOM
so i feel a little. Bit better he's walking towards
us down the street while we're in, the car and
he stops at. The car he looks directly at me
and he's talking to me and my mom and, he's,
like hey did you guys hear about some guy pushing some?

(25:15):
Old lady and instantly my body just was taken over by.
This fear it's the weirdest. Thing ever, AND again i
wasn't aware that this was an old person and pushing
is not right at all, at ALL but i was
scared for, my LIFE so i did kind of shove.
The person but he looks me dead in the eyes and,

(25:37):
he says did you hear about this guy that pushed an?
Old Lady and, I'M like i don't know what you're,
Talking ABOUT like i don't know what you're. Talking about
you need to get away, from ME like i kind
of like, get defensive and he just walks along and,
keeps Walking and, i'm like what the fuck is? Going
on BECAUSE if i did push an, old Lady which i'm,

(26:00):
sorry about and he knows. ABOUT it i would assume
that there would be. OTHERS around i would assume that
they would be looking. FOR me i would BE assume
i would. Be detained if you know that and you're
not the, old lady there would have to be others
to look for. This person but you're saying it to
me as if, You knew and that part creeps me,

(26:25):
Out TOO so i believe that's really all from, the
night the night that was the most confusing night of
my life and the scariest night of.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
My.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Life uh and the time gap is still what kind
of like freaks, me out like because it went from
twelve o'clock at night, to now all of, a sudden
it's sunrise earliest six latest seven in. The MORNING and

(27:01):
i have. NO answers i have. NO answers i never
experienced anything like that in. My life i'm NOT even
i wasn't even really into supernatural prior. To this the
ONLY thing i was interested in before was the alien,
sub reddit because When the pentagon started releasing classified information

(27:23):
kind of like made an interest. Of MINE so i
would kind of like keep up with that a. Little
BIT but i have no idea what that encounter was
to this day and it's kind of changed.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
My life, Holy, Cow, eric okay it's actually too bad
we aren't on video talking because half of The time
i'm making my millions, Of notes i'm covering my mouth
with my HAND because i am trying to be right there,
with you and that is. Absolutely, horrifying, yeah so.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Just for a, little context this Was. IN march, i
was if not one of the brightest people, you knew
the most funniest persons. You do people want to go out,
with me totally a guy in his mid twenties that
everybody is fond of and complete. Three sixty since, THIS

(28:17):
day i don't really talk. TO people i go, TO
work i, GO home i sleep. And repeat, and yeah
it's just it's completely changed. My LIFE and i did
try to speak to a best friend, about it and she,
was like, of COURSE and i love her. So much

(28:40):
it's my best friend since. Third grade she, asked ME am,
I sure and that just kind of changed everything. FOR
us i haven't spoken to her in almost, two months
and we don't go a day. Without speaking but it
made me feel so much like a pray Not that

(29:01):
i'm scared to go OUTSIDE because i still have to work.
And live but it just made me feel like there's
so much more to this world that we don't know
About that i'd just rather keep. To myself and so
and looking back, at it this has been. Months ago

(29:21):
now looking back, At, it i'm for the life, Of
me i'm trying to REMEMBER where i was for. Six
hours you know this is, you know this is night
out hours to, now SUNRISE and i can tell you, Right,
Now shannon i'm not going to be OUTSIDE of la

(29:42):
for six Hours, in march when it's probably cold. At
night i'm gonna take my. Ass inside so the fact
that AFTER once i buried my phone behind the, TRASH
cans i couldn't, remember anything it's it deeply, haunts me,
you KNOW because i know Me and i'm not going

(30:03):
to be OUTSIDE when i have my apartment right there for.
Six hours and THEN when i am spawn back to
my apartment in, the front there's a hooded man, coming
out and so it just freaks. Me out and Then

(30:24):
when i'm with, my mom who she saw the guy
come up, to us and AS did i hear about
some guy pushing some, old lady which would presumably be.
That night this is six. Hours later how did you coincidentally?
Walk PAST but i got that same feeling OF when
i saw him at. The car it just made me

(30:46):
question reality and none of it. MAKES sense i think
about this day. Every day EVERY day i think about.
THIS day.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I am so sorry that it happened, to you because
as MUCH as i love, these subjects AND as, i
MENTIONED when i realized kind of sort of what we
are going to be, talking about you could send, my
EXCITEMENT but i had no idea that all of this. Was, Coming,
OKAY eric i have a lot of questions, for You

(31:18):
and i'm going to say right now you're not going
to know, the answers and that's Not what i'm. Looking
for it's just to continue the conversation and just see where, it,
goes okay and just to. Jog ideas so if you're okay,
WITH that i have a LOT that i have, jotted
Down and i'm going to jump around just a. LITTLE
bit i have notes from the very moment that the

(31:38):
car alarm. Went Off but i'm going to go right out.
With this it seems to me that between you not
going right back up to your apartment and you choosing
to go to this elementary school and at which the gate,
was open And obviously, homie was, you know hanging out inside.

(31:59):
What ever but usually they Lock those but. That's, Weird
anyway we'll never know the answer. To that but you didn't.
Go home you go to this elementary school and then
your phone starts effing up and you decide to get
rid of the one thing that could possibly maybe when it,
stopped glitching get you some help from somebody that wasn't

(32:21):
creepy in. A hood now, to me it seems like
you were being isolated. Very, tactically yeah oh, my god.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Thank, You yeah i'm so glad that you, see that
because that's what scares me. The most, i'm like how
are you Here while i'm here at, the car at,
the school EVEN once i got to my even once
my mom came and we're at, the car how are
you at all of? These spots and EVEN once i
pushed the quote unquote, old LADY because i don't believe

(32:52):
that was an. OLD lady i just saw the back
of them and they were wearing. A hood everybody was wearing,
a hood by. The way it was. So weird, and
YEAH so I don't i don't KNOW why i buried
my phone at, the moment the, only, logic right because
we're always trying to, apply logic was maybe they're tracking
me through that through. This phone, you know parents are,

(33:14):
always like you need to you need to let go,
that phone you need to stop be on.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
That.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Phone something maybe this IS how i got here because of.
The phone, you know maybe they're stalking. ME cyberly i.
DON'T know i was trying to draw logic at the
time And something and what's so weird looking back at
it was something told me bury my phone and behind the,
trash cans AND once, i did that's when the time.

(33:38):
Loss happened so, it really, You know i'm shaking. Right
now it really, really, traumatizing honestly really, traumatizing.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Because as, you say when You're In los angeles and
you're in, an apartment and especially if you're in a
place that has apartments that there's that many more cars in.
ONE area i would imagine you here a car alarm
go off several times, a day and sometimes you can
tell that it is, your car so absolutely for yours to,
go off and like, you said normally, you're, like ah

(34:11):
maybe somebody bumped it or a cat jumped on. The
hood i'm sure that's happened before it, goes off and
then it literally. Turns off you don't really need to
pay any attention, to that but for, whatever reason you
knew it. Was yours not, only that but you, instantly,
GO well i gotta, GO down i gotta see what's
doing because this is not going to shut off and

(34:34):
it's not a normal my car alarm is, going OFF
and i. GET it i love my. CAR too i
would be going out there going who's messing with?

Speaker 3 (34:41):
My? Car, Yes so and it was kind of like
a like a very prominent like that is, your car
that is, your car and So. THAT'S shannon, i mean
you couldn't get me to go out to a car alarm,
right now and it's it's eleven o'clock in the day,
over here you Know what, I'm saying like it's just

(35:01):
not a. Normal thing but, that night just like, THE
phone i don't want to, say hypnotizing because, YOU know
i don't know what was, going on but with, the
phone with, the car it was kind of like you're
going to. Do this you're going to go see if that's,
your car and you're going to put your phone behind
these trash the. Trash cans it was kind of like the,
a definite like there was no question, about it.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Implanted thoughts almost there.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
You go that's the BEST way i could, put it
kind of like you're going to go check in. Your
car you're going to come down to your car, right
now you're going to put. These phones you're going to
put this phone behind your. Trash CANS, and i without a,
second thought did both of, those things which looking, BACK
now i would. HAVE never i would have never did.
Those things and isn't?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
IT strange, I mean, i mean when we're talking about
entities like this that can bend things at, their will
for lack of a, better term you would think and
maybe they maybe, they don't they don't give a crap.
About this i'm just if something has powers to implement
these kinds of feelings for you to definitely go outside
and definitely run to the school and, Oh yeah i'm

(36:08):
gonna get rid of the only contact with anybody besides
my vicinity of me screaming. For help you would think
that they would want to not impart this utterly complete
feeling of fear and dread.

Speaker 6 (36:22):
IN you.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
I was thinking. ABOUT this i was, just like why
didn't you just come get me in? My sleep why
didn't you just? Like? Whatever right, You know i'm just,
thinking like why wouldn't you just? Take advantage but the
only thing that can make sense to me is whatever
was going on with this this entity HUMANOID human i

(36:48):
don't even know what to, call it because this doesn't
seem like friendly. At ALL all i could think of
is ignite the free will so that my my brain
can be okay. With it THAT'S all i could think
of reading other stories and hearing other stuff, during research is,

(37:09):
that like we have to make ourselves okay, with it
so we have to go through. With it THAT'S all
i could. Think of because if it was just coming
through the walls at, MY night i mean in night in,
my house, you Know, Like hi. I'm here, you know
that would HAVE been i would have never, stopped screaming
you Know what i'm saying if something like that. Had

(37:31):
happened SO all i could think of is igniting that,
free will making you, walk outside making you put the,
phone away making you so that our brain feels okay,
with IT which i still don't feel okay, with it
but in, the moment because if it was just to
spawn in my. Living room, YOU know i would have never.

(37:53):
STOPPED screaming i would have probably, passed out. You know
so that's the ONLY thing i can, think of is
like willingly going through with it so that our brain
is okay, with it which still sounds creepy.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
To me or maybe there's some law of the universe
where they're not allowed to not give you a choice
for fight. Or flight maybe. The, lawsuit yeah they can
do all these up to, this point but you still
have your primal. Instincts, intact yeah because did you notice?

Speaker 3 (38:25):
One thing nobody was ever? Chasing, me.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah they didn't. Need to that is it's almost, that's
creepier to be honest, With, you yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
It is. IT is i would HAVE rather i used
to actually, RUN tracks i would. Chase right are you
rather you chased me than? More? Mathologically, yeah. Yeah psychologically
and that's what this has been where that Was, In, March, April, May, June, July,
august september about To. Be october this is almost seven.
Months ago and you know, What's, CRAZY shannon I have

(38:58):
i don't DRINK, anymore Tmi but i've been Selling bit
i'm talking about four THREE sixty i deleted all my.
Social media's it completely warped. MY reality i THINK sometimes
i think maybe this was maybe this was. THE plan i.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Don't, KNOW oh i don't like hearing that. AT all i.
Really don't i'm so sorry to. Hear, that okay more
coming your. Way now you already, said THIS but i
just want to bring it. Back up you are nearly
one hundred percent sure that the person, Or man you're
pretty sure it's, a man that the hooded man with

(39:41):
a big old smile that was at your car was
the same person that you encountered once you went into.
The schoolyard.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
I'm one. Hundred percent but you know, What's, CRAZIER shannon
i think they're all the. SAME person i think they're
all the, same person because there's no way in this
kind of square radius that you can run and be
at all of these places, with me. You know for

(40:13):
for in, My head i'm THINKING that i got to
the School because i'm getting away from the. Car guy
but they were the same feeling, of dread the same. Hooded,
figure yeah it does seem the, same person but it
seems like it wasn't the same person at the. Same
time it seems like. It was, it WAS but i

(40:38):
know that the LADY that i pushed had a, lady
voice and that's what the, GUY said i pushed. A
lady but then the guy that came at the end
of at the end of the morning towards me and
my mom and was speaking to was that that seemed
a little. Bit DIFFERENT like i don't want to say
he appeared more friendly because my mom, was there BUT

(41:00):
like i mean eye contact with, the guy which still
gave me. The creeps but maybe it all was the.
Same guy it's just.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
SO confusing i don't think that that's crazy. AT all,
i mean that makes more sense, than anything as we
already were kind of sort. Of laughing but it's not
funny is the fact that they didn't have to. Chase
you they were wherever you. Were going they they were.
Gonna be so can, you describe as best you can
how close was all of their clothing to the to

(41:33):
the next and THE next, i mean were they all
and including that final the final boss if, you will
that next morning when your mom, is there were they
all literally in the exact same CLOTHES.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
They i don't think they were in the exact, same
clothes but, you know what's. So creepy they were all,
wearing black.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
So black, black pants black, hood, yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah YEAH when i saw the first encounter at, the car,
black hoodie, Black pants THAT'S why i wasn't able to
kind of make a face because. It's dark and then
you're already, wearing, black which, of course, You know i'm
ready to kind of be questioned, because, like okay that
could have been true. Burgular fashion, i'm, like, no, no, no, no
no this gave like dark entity back and that's what

(42:19):
it kind of. Seemed black and then the woman quote
UNQUOTE that, i PUSHED which i still don't BELIEVE that
i was, a woman but they were wearing black or at,
least dark, you know clothing from the BACK when i.
Shoved them THEN when i went to, THE school i
could see out the corner of my eye he's in,
all black smiling from ear. To ear and THEN when
i finally get to my mother in the morning and

(42:41):
we're sitting at, her car he's in. All black so
part of me, believes that, you know like this happens
SO that i can't really breadcrumb and figure. It out,
you know it's kind OF what i, think.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Too to the best of your ability describe that man's
face you saw that morning that next morning with, your mom.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Who first, of all his eyes were like you look
into his eye and you get this EVIL because i
talked to it about. MY mom a few, MONTHS later i,
ASKED her, i said do you remember the guy that
came to The car and she was. Like yeah she was,
like yeah he seemed like he wanted to kick. Your
Ass and, i'm, like, Oh, Thanks mom i'm, like thanks
you Know what. I'm saying but she also was able

(43:25):
to sense, this angry, you know sense. Of energy but
Physically maybe Latino or, caucasian male all black eyes that
are just looking at YOU like i know everything. About
you THAT'S what i kind of get Maybe about he's

(43:51):
older than, thirty five no older than, forty five definitely
around my like my mother's, age group and kind of
like a not like, a combover but just like maybe
about an inch or two of hair on, his head
and which is, so crazy not really, that tall like

(44:11):
maybe about like five ten or. Five nine definitely could have,
took him, you know which is so Crazy because i'm not,
you know somebody messes with me and my friends on
a Night out i'm the first one to be, like
defensive so, you know this guy wasn't large or threatening in.
Any way it's.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
Actually creepy did your mom actually see the man that
had come out of your apartment once you came, to
that you know what's?

Speaker 3 (44:43):
So funny AND when i asked her about the guy
that came up to, THE car i, ASKED her, i
said did you see somebody come out of? My apartment
and she, WAS like i did see somebody at the
corner of the street wearing, a hood and she said
the hood on. Her own so it seemed LIKE once
i finally got to, her car she only saw them
at the end of, the street but she didn't see him.
Coming out so that's what. Makes me that's what kind

(45:05):
of made me. More depressed, i'm, like Okay so i'm
definitely not mistaken. In anything. You know my mother saw
two of the things, as well, so yeah she Did
see she says she did. See somebody, SHE'S like i,
did see BUT like i, just figured, you know it's.
The morning they're wearing. A hood and my mom is
like such The like, devil's advocate, You know, she's, LIKE

(45:26):
oh i just figured they were like blah blah, blah
Blah and, i'm, like, no, no no they're about to.
EAT me i. Don't know, You know.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
So when you saw him coming out Of because i'm
trying to picture how where you're standing and where this
is your apartment an, upstairs apartment, then RIGHT because i
remember saying you had to go down you to, go
downstairs where, you're standing you see him? Coming out would
he have had to have walked right by you to
then get to this point at the top of the,

(45:55):
you know the street where then your mother eventually, Saw
him like how would?

Speaker 3 (45:59):
That happen so what's crazy is my apartment has. A,
GATE first i just see him coming out, the gate
and THERE'S only i live in, a duplex you could,
actually say so it's just me and my other neighbor at.
The bottom and that was not my neighbor at. The
BOTTOM so i just see him coming out the gate
AND like i almost fell on. My knees AND then
i turned around and my mom, was there and then

(46:21):
she said later on she did see somebody in the
hood a little, ways down like at, the corner kind
of like almost maybe watching making SURE that i got in.
The car that's what like she was able to see
him far enough and question it AND then i got in.
The CAR so i.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Mean, to you is that something completely crazy and wild
that she didn't notice him coming out of, the gate
or was she just very focused on you that it's
possible that she could have not, Seen him or is
it possible that she just wasn't meant to see him
so She didn't.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
You know what's, So, Crazy shannon every single occurrence that
day slash night was at. Precise timing SO when i
seen him come out, THE apartment i almost fell to,
my knees but instead. FLIGHT again i started walking towards,
the corner and Then as i'm walking to, the corner

(47:17):
my mom just. SHOWS up i get in, the car
And then i'm ASSUMING once i got in the car
between then he's already a little bit down, the street
but not too, far ENOUGH like, i said kind of
making SURE that i got in the car and he's
at the end of.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
The street it's like almost just enough to where. YOU'RE going,
i mean obviously there's some things about this where you
straight up go well that's not normal and. That's paranormal
but other things are as, you say where it's just
on the cusp of. Bad timing bad timing meaning she
was just far enough out of a site where maybe

(47:52):
if she was moved up a little bit more in,
the car she could have. Seen him but would she have,
seen him, you know would would that have been a
tangible person or thing? To?

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Her uh and she, knows that, you know that's my,
apartment gate so she would have seen him coming out
the gate and me. Looking SCARED but i think as
he was, coming out AND as i was watching him
coming OUT and i turned around to go to, the
corner she pulled up at the corner like RIGHT when
i was, meeting it like it was like Perfect like

(48:25):
and that's what creeped me. Out too, i'm like how
did you get here? Just perfectly at the end of all,
of this, you know it was. So weird still. Was, Weird.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah so when you left your apartment, that night, of
course you're not thinking you're gonna be gone all, Damn
night so you didn't lock the door. Behind you so
when you go back in, the house is anything? Moved
taken is? Anything?

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Strange, Shannon no and that's what psychologically fucked. WITH me
i thought it was a bomb. IN here i THOUGHT
like i because nothing was physically, visually rearranged it. Left
me it left, me questionless LIKE just i, didn't know

(49:21):
like it, was endless of like what could have? Been
DONE and i have, a cat SO initially i was
making sure she was alive and she, was okay and
she was So thank god. For that but nothing, you
know obviously rearranged. Or ANYTHING and i felt like that
was the. Most psychological it kind of left me to
answer my, own question or, you know left me, to

(49:43):
ANSWER which. I hate i WISH that i would have
came back and it was ramsacked and my laptop, Was
missing i'll, Be, like, okay cool they did all of
this to, rob, me ok, thank god, you know but
since everything was, left pristine that made me, feel worse
like what do you? Really?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Want well AND and i have a slight idea of real,
estate prices and Of course i'm Here in vegas and YOU'RE,
in LA and i KNOW that la is not a
cheap place to be, moving around, Willy nilly and you loved,
your apartment but now so much for because you mentioned

(50:24):
the word piece you felt at peace there and now
all of that that is what was really taken from
you is your peace. OF mind i can't imagine that
your sleep stayed very normal, after this or every time
an alarm goes off on, a car it probably kicks IN.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
This ptsd, OH no i stayed at my mom's for
like a, MONTH afterwards i tell, You THAT yeah. I
did and you want to know what's? So creepy and
this is what validated. MY feelings i forgot to. Say
THIS so i ended up moving to my mom's for
just a MONTH because i was questioning going back to
home At my it made, me, Rethink, like OKAY do

(51:03):
i need to be living alone. Or whatever they kind
of question that for a. Little BIT but i just
really went over there to. Get away But while i'm
grabbing Things and i'm putting them in my, mom's car
My neighbor and my neighbor is an, olderly lady like
maybe about, sixty FIVE and i love her, to death
and she, sees me, you know going back and forth
between the car and taking things to take to. My
mom's she caused me while we're on the freeway and, she's,

(51:27):
like hey are? You okay i've, seen you, you know
putting stuff in your, Mom's car like where? YOU going i, was,
Like yeah, I'M fine i just have to get out
that fucking house for a, little bit, you know excuse.
My LANGUAGE and i was JUST like, i just, YOU
know i just and, she said. It's okay nobody will
know what you went through unless they went. Through IT

(51:47):
and i, never YEAH and. I never i don't know
if she's Seen My panic states that MORNING when i
was going packing to my mom's because she. Couldn't pass
simply knew the NIGHT that. I had, you know she
there's no way she would have, known that but she
just that just rolled off of, her TONGUE and i,

(52:08):
was like, thank you and she, was like, it's okay
call me if you.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Need.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Anything click so questions, upon questions, YOU know i still have.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
No.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Answers, yeah so and this neighbor is. STILL here i
love her. To death we don't even bring. It up it's.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
SO weird, i, mean yeah that could be a very
general pat on your head thing, to say but, then
again AFTER what i, just heard that just sounds almost
that just goes the opposite direction for me to being.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Very specific, yeah, yeah. Yeah YEAH and i never asked
her what she meant. Or anything, but again that timing
was just like perfect timing for you to. Say that
and my mom, was like who? WAS that i, was,
like oh that was, you know speek lady. Next door

(53:00):
and she, was like what is? SHE saying i was just,
like nothing, Like like i'm trying to forget about. The
situation but she again reminded me how old. Is she
she's got to be at least sixty to. Sixty five
she has. A, granddaughter.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Okay, so eric forgive me just this is how my.
MIND works i throw everything that comes to my. Mind
out god knows you know. What's doing but. Forgive me
what if what if the old lady that you pushed
was your neighbor and she's. Somehow something I'm just i'm.
Just saying i'm sure that that has crossed. Your mind.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
It Did cross it did cross my mind BECAUSE where
i shoved the old, Lady out the thought of me
pushing the old lady really. Unsettles me i'm. So sorry
but it was near her her apartment, As well but
she would have just, told me, you know we talk
EVERY day i come outside. My house she would have

(53:55):
probably told me. By then and then also to the
slight VOICE that i, did hear it didn't sound, like
her and that neighbor is usually always in bed by
like nine. Or, Ten YEAH like i remember ONE time
i was locked out at like ten o'clock and she wasn't.
EVEN home i, was like oh, My, god like of
course she's, knocked out so, She sleep but it didn't sound.

(54:16):
Like her and she would have just probably told me
because we talked so so much.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
In, passing well and she this woman we'll just call
this thing, a woman or was dressed the same as
the man next to your car that.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Was, off yeah, Yeah, too yeah, my sweet my. Sweet
neighbor she's not in.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
A hood, YEAH yeah i don't see a lot of
older ladies in all black.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
And. Hoodies yeah you know what, Makes me it really
made me, that night really made me feel THAT like
i don't want to say this entity, was teleporting but
like this entity WAS everywhere, i went you Know what.
I'm SAYING like i ran for the car and then
there's somebody coincidentally in front of my Path as. I'm

(55:04):
running THEN after i, PUSH them i go to. The
school there the hooded man is again smiling from ear,
to ear sitting on. A bench AND then i lose
Time and i'm spawn back into, the morning there is
that person again coming out of. My APARTMENT then i
go to my mom and we're sitting in. The car
she's asking me. What's wrong she sees it over, my

(55:25):
face she sees it all through. My body this. Individual
comes it's kind OF like i don't want to, say
TELEPORTATION and i don't want to say, using people but
kind of like everywhere all. At once DAMN should i
say like this person? Was everywhere that's a.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Good, Description no and the word teleport came to my mind. As,
well right people kind of snicker and, they're, like oh
what is this Star trek and, we're, like no but
this is the best way to describe what is.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Going, on, Yeah YEAH and i had go, Ahead, AHEAD
no i had FOUND another i don't know if you
heard a Jan. The yeah it came across that kind
of stories a little. Bit Too so, I'M like i
don't know if the this is jin, using people, YOU

(56:17):
know i just can't wrap my mind, Around, IT shannon. I.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Can't eric i'm gonna throw this out, and again anything
that may BE something i tend to throw. Out there
so a Man Named, david weatherley he actually used to
live here in town and. He's MOVED since i don't
know where, he's gone noth that. That matters but he

(56:42):
is a paranormal investigator and a prolific author at, this
point and he saw. An entity, HOLD on i pulled.
It up i'm not gonna tell like the, whole THING
and i do not recall. Exact details i'll say that,
right NOW so i only want to throw this. Out
there it Was in.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Where?

Speaker 6 (57:04):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I'm, sorry okay The, book strange His Book. Strange intruders
he saw an entity on this back road SOMEWHERE in
i think It Was. North carolina and guess what'd he?
Named that The grinning man because he said that. It
is it's exactly what. You said this unnaturally large just

(57:29):
ear To ear gren that should not have, been possible
was possible on whatever. He saw AND now I DON'T
i'm i don't want to don't put this. INTO stone
i want to say that he saw it twice on,
the ROAD but i might be imparting. Something else i'm
about to. TELL you i don't know if he saw that,

(57:51):
entity twice but it is. A possibility i know that
that's not the only time something like your situation. Has
happened where. You're going that is not, physical possible but
yet it. Did that, and also and maybe these entities
are from the, same neighborhood let's. Just SAY but i
also have an EPISODE where i talked to a woman

(58:12):
that was on a very very early morning drive and
she crests the hill and, you know it's still, dark
out it's that early in, the morning and her headlights
fall upon, this, thin pale white creature with this stringy,
black hair no, clothing on and it's crouched in the
middle of. The road and she went around and she, was,

(58:34):
terrified right and, she's, Like okay and at, that point
you've seen something so strange that your mind, is like
maybe that was a ma. Seated, cow yes it was
a white. Everything's good. I'm good i'm just gonna go to.
Work exactly, you're, like nope didn't see that on with. The,
show well a couple turns later she sees, it again and.

(58:56):
She hadn't just, like you she had no doubt in
her mind it was the exact. Same thing, SHE'S like
i don't, know how, because sure if, there's one there could.
Be two but, she knew just like, you've said she
knew somehow in her heart and in her mind and in,
her gut it was the exact, same thing and she
said it was. Not possible she goes at, THAT point
i was like FLYING because i, was terrified and you

(59:18):
tend to drive a little faster or, You know and,
SHE'S like i just need to get the fter work
and let. This go and then it. Happened again so
now you can't. Deny it now you can't let.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
It GO so i don't know what's weird about that
is that night it felt timeless on top of the loss.
Of TIME but i started to believe that what if
whatever is going on down Here at earth with these
this coexistence, of beings what if they're able, YOU know,

(59:50):
i know you hear about different animals who don't since
time and you, Know whatever but what if it's the
same things with these beings Where like, i'm thinking it's
taking me three minutes to reach the end of, the
block and for, this entity they're able to get to
the end of. The block just to, the thought you
Know what, i'm saying or, you know because it, really
questioned it. MADE me i really had ontological shock. AFTER

(01:00:13):
this i felt like my old way of thinking and
my old way of living and my old understanding of
the universe was just completely because all of these coincidences
and stealing of dread just. Changed everything but what if these,
these individuals let's, just say don't operate on the same
time that, we do, you know so it would.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Make sense before you left the apartment to go with,
your mom did you go back and get?

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Your? Phone, oh yeah that's what's. So funny and my mom,
was like let's drive you to where you buried. This
phone and it was just up, the street but, of
course walking it felt. Like FOREVER and i went behind
the trash Cans like, she's like you did all, of
this which made her kind of raise. An eyebrow she,
was like you did all of this, to hide like

(01:01:03):
you must have really, seen Something and, i'm like. Hell
yeah so she did come, with me and she, was,
like yeah you're definitely gonna need, Your PHONE like i
don't know what you thought burying your phone was going.
To DO and i, was, LIKE girl i didn't know
if they were tracking me through the PHONE or i,
didn't KNOW so i wasn't trying to figure, it OUT
and I knew i put it in a, you know,
landmarks PLACE so i KNEW that i would. Find it but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
So, that drive that instinct to bury the phone. Was
instantaneous you just knew that's what you had. To do
you had the pull and the draw to not just
toss it away but. Bury.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It yeah and you know, What's crazy the loss of
time was directly. After that after burying, THAT phone i don't.
Remember ANYTHING all i remember is being in front of
my house and seeing him come out of it and
it being Sunshine because, I'M like i would not be
spending the. NIGHT outside, i mean just think how crazy

(01:01:58):
that sounds to an adult who has an apartment they're paying.
Bills for and why were you dressed?

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
That? Night?

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
ERIC oh I think i had on basketball shorts and
a HOOD not i would have BEEN called i get called. So,
fast yeah you would have been a lot. Of, things
yeah there's a lot OF things a question that make
me question. That night but that's what messes with me
the most, is like what happened to me during that loss?
Of time, you know? That's what did somebody in a
black van come pick me up and Have THEIR like

(01:02:29):
i can't even answer the question OF where i. Was
from let's just say this happened that between eleven and
TWELVE when i went to. The car let's just SAY
that i buried my phone at two o'clock in, the,
morning which even being outside for two hours doesn't sound.
Like myself but let's say it's. Two o'clock what the?

(01:02:49):
Hell happened from two sunrises about five forty five six o'clock,
over here from two to, six o'clock that's a lot
of time.

Speaker 7 (01:03:00):
That is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
So dark and It's not it is so not cool
or funny or any. Of that it's. Really not, and
yeah that is so so. Screwed up SO you i don't,
mean to, you know drag too, much up but you're
very open with, this STUFF and i. Appreciate that did
you notice anything weird on, your body scrapes? Or sore,

(01:03:24):
oh my, you know anything? Is sore my, back sore
or anything weird about? Your clothing anything? At.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
All no and what's CRAZIER is i WAS once I
WAS and i can only say SPAWN because i don't
even really remember walking back to. MY apartment i don't
remember ANYTHING before i got back to. My APARTMENT but
i was just as conscious. Aware untouched clothes, were, fine

(01:03:50):
which again just like the apartment is more. Psychologically terrifying
if my clothes, were RIPPED if i was scripped of,
my hoodie which nobody would, Want, that like if they
were to, take something that would be so much, more
comforting which is not really but, you, know logically that
would be so much more comfortable knowing that they. Wanted something,

(01:04:15):
But instead i'm back in. One piece i'm, Not drugged
i'm not, you, Know unconscious i'm. Totally fine it's just
message with me and just completely messes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
With, Me eric i'm sure you picked up, on this
but listening To the, robert episode it's not exact as
far as what the. Entity, did however maybe if you
had gone closer to this, quote unquote we'll just call
it the. GRINNING man i don't know what else to,
call it but with that, damn smile, my god, who
knows maybe it could have changed its face if you got.

(01:04:48):
Close Enough but i'm sure that you picked up on
the fact that that one trip with this quote Unquote,
kid robert it completely changed the perception of. Their reality
and it's SOMETHING that, I mean i don't know how
many years, it was like ten years later and they're
talking to me and it's like it. Happened yesterday the

(01:05:10):
fact that this is a it's such a powerful, and
terrifying literally just one. Off Experience and i'm not saying
one off to diminish it. At all i'm just, saying that,
why you why why those Guys with robert and and
the young lady that saw him actually change his face by,

(01:05:32):
the way, you know, forget that and and you with
the missing the, missing time the. Missing TIME just i
actually audibly IT'S why i keep myself, on Mute because
I'm very i'm behind. The SCENES just i just SIGHED
when i, heard that because that's a whole another level
of what the actual happened to you that is so,

(01:05:54):
So dark and the fact that it's a. ONE off, I,
mean okay you decided to go back home after about,
a month, you, said right did you have and obviously
you're GONNA have ptsd after something. LIKE this i can,
ONLY imagine i imagine're not sleeping. That great you already

(01:06:15):
said you stopped talking to, Certain people you're not. Online anymore,
you said you damn near became. A hermit did you
begin to have anything strange happen in? Your house did
you start to see any strange lights in. The sky
did you start to see shadows in your periphery anything.
Like that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
You are not going to Believe what i'm about. To
say but to answer your, question, DIRECTLY no i didn't
see anything directly, OR no i didn't have any kind
of any regulation of any like. Manipulation afterwards but STANDING
before i woke up, THIS morning i had a dream
OF a ufo above. My house, Really YEAH and, I

(01:06:57):
mean i don't know if you know this IS just
i do believe dreams are subconscious thoughts and like things
that you were thinking about during that week or, that
time and so it pops up in, your dream. Of
COURSE but i haven't had no dream OF no ufo prior.
To tonight but, last night BUT before i spoke to you,
this morning the DREAM that i HAD before i woke
up was like THAT. A ufo i was looking out

(01:07:19):
the window of my house and THEN a ufo was
like above, my house AND like i kind of got
like that, oh shit like let me duck kind. Of
feeling AND then i. Woke up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
And just to let, Everybody know ERIC and i have
been there's been a little scheduling stuff, come up and we've.
Been passing we've been passing ships for a short not
a super long, time now because it wasn't that long
ago that you first reached out. To, me however for
you to have that dream last night before we're actually
speaking is to me who knows it's, a, dream right

(01:07:54):
but it is. Of interest and In the, robert episode
there was a VERY, interesting EVP which i don't normally even.
Like EVPs they're, highly suggestive but something strange came THROUGH
when i was Recording, with NICK so. I would i
am actually stunned that nothing has happened with our streamyard

(01:08:16):
connection anything like that. So Far so i'm interested to
see if anyone. HEARS anything, I mean i hope they
don't because it just adds another level of creepiness that
you personally do not need now that. Even, home also
have you had any other pulls to?

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Go? Outside, no no which is is. So terrifying you
know what's crazy about two? Months, ago yeah like about two,
MONTHS ago i was coming back from a friend's. THAT
night i dropped her off at home because her car was,
not WORKING so i gave her a Ride and i'm
coming back at home like around no later than twelve
o'clock and you, know what that elementary school's gate. Was

(01:08:58):
closed so it's just so, weird that like coincidentally, the
night the terriblest night of, my life this, elementary school
which is come on these. PEOPLE'S kid, i mean nobody
was at school at, the time obviously talking like, a
night but like the school is supposed to, be guarding
so nobody, could tamper, you know, graffiti whatever just coincidentally,
is open and he's coincidentally sitting at the bench smiling

(01:09:21):
from ear. To ear but to answer your question before
about the robber episode and it kind of like changing
their reality afterwards, Years afterwards i'm gonna go with whatever
is going on here on earth and whoever is in,
the know we are simply not ready. For IT and

(01:09:44):
i know a lot of people of this phenomenon hate,
that Answer but i'm TALKING about i only listened to
the same songs for about. THREE months i, GAINED weight
i was avoiding. ICON contact i did the same thing.
Every day, For me i'm just now a little bit

(01:10:05):
starting to go out of. My SHELL like i just
sent to my friend this farmer's market that's, coming up
and even that is not remotely close TO what i was.
Doing Before but i'm just now a little bit starting to.
Feel okay but it's always in the back of, my
mind is like who is walking? Amongst us and we
have no idea Of what and that's the true nature.

(01:10:26):
Of earth you never know who did something messed up the?
Night before but what is walking? Amongst US should? I
SAY and I really i don't think. We're ready i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
SO sorry i just want to DRIVE to la and
just give you a.

Speaker 8 (01:10:38):
BIG hug i Really, don't, YEAH yeah i, Mean, really
eric what when you stop and think about it and
how much your life has, been altered don't you just
sometimes go WHAT am i supposed to get out?

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Of?

Speaker 9 (01:10:51):
This?

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Like what? Why me what the how did you do that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
To? Me, for yeah it. Does it THAT'S how. I
feel that's the INITIAL how i, feel afterwards like? Why me?
Why me just just so, so much so, many questions
you know how you Know what, I'm saying like this
is somebody that never had a telepathic? Messaging before how

(01:11:18):
did you summon me to my car in the? First
place like it's just it's just, so weird. You know
it did change for the better a, LITTLE bit, i
GUESS like, I said i've, stopped drinking no longer a
part of like. Hookup culture it just kind of made
me want to always, be aware like kind of made

(01:11:38):
me want to always be like sober and aware of
what's going on and like keeping an eye on EVERYTHING
because i know there's something more that. CAN happen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I think it should be my, last QUESTION but i
always say that something else comes to. My mind but
just whining, up here something else that. Came UP and
i know that it was late, at night and it
was it, was cold and it's not so weird if,
There wasn't but do you recall having the sense that
there was any other normal person around when all by

(01:12:13):
the time you walked out of your apartment to the
time that you saw, your mother do you recall being
aware of any other normal? Human being?

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
You know and you know what's crazy is that from
the TIME that i walked out to the TIME that
i see, my mom it all felt like. Ghost town
it felt like time was. Not around it felt like
the most. TWILIGHTEST zone, i mean right walking around at

(01:12:42):
two o'clock, at night it's probably not going to feel the,
most normal but it definitely didn't feel like Anything that
i've experienced in my twenty five years. Of, living ever
it FELT like i was the only. Person awake it
FELT like i was. Being hunted it felt like one
minute felt like a, thousand minutes and an hour can
feel like. One minute it just felt like like. A

(01:13:04):
STANDSTILL but i didn't see anybody, as well BECAUSE then
i would have asked, for help, YOU know i would have, been,
LIKE hey i am, getting chased. You know that would
be the only WAY that i can. Explain it and
what's crazy is not even. Physically chased i'm getting like,
psychologically chased. You know, SO no i didn't, see anybody

(01:13:28):
which is is. So creepy the only PEOPLE that i
seen gave off this sense of DREAD that i don't
even want to go. Near them and the only PERSON
that i talked to UNTIL once i met my mom
was the guy that, was walking who seemed like a
way tuned down version OF what i saw. That night
he's it, felt like let me appear friendly because his mom.

(01:13:49):
Is here but even she said she got a sense
of like he wanted to kick, my ass like some
a sense of. Like danger, so no it's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Very taunting what, he did, because oh did you guys
hear that some guy and knowing that he's looking at
you with this like menacing stare some guy person an,
old lady and, you're, like, Well yeah i'm the. Some
guy But what and you just went through realizing that
you have hours of, missing time you buried, Your phone

(01:14:21):
you're in the face of all these freaky, assue people
and then, it's daylight you're with. Your mother you would
think that it would, be over but.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
It, Wasn't, no yeah and you KNOW what i WAS
what i was telling my best friend because she's not,
remotely into, you know, supernatural phenomenon and she, was like? What,
happened like? What Happened and, i'm like first, of all
you don't want. To know second, OF all i can't
even really freaking tell you, what happened because, You KNOW but,

(01:14:53):
i said it's the type of shit that makes you
want to call your mom and just stay with her all.
Fucking night then. It was but EVEN once i was with,
my mom. IT didn't, I mean i felt a little
bit safer because it was two, of, us sure but
the sense that he was the sense of feeling he was,
GETTING off i was still able to feel it with

(01:15:14):
my mom and she felt, it too just in a
little tone down she, thought, like yeah whatever old lady he's.
Talking about he was, Really Mad and, i'm, like no you.
Don't understand there's no way he could know about the
old lady because because there was. Nobody there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
There's just there's so, many things like every single step
of it is a what the, you know like every
single step, is, yeah yeah did you, feel no, you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Go, oh sorry you know what it. FELT like i
don't know if you remember playing video games like way
when like PlayStation, was new but like you would play,
any game like Whether it's Sonic or crash, or whatever
and you're able to shift, between characters like you're able
TO press l two and then you could, be like,
you know you could Be, like daisy then you could,
be mine it Could be louis. Or whatever it felt

(01:16:01):
like that's what was, going on but it all still
felt like the. Same Person, m.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Yeah it's a really good way to describe that and
horror at the.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Same, Time, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Eric did your phone after you dug? It up did
it function normally?

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
AFTER that I think i had to. CHARGE it I
think i used my mom's, car charger, and yeah it was,
functioning Normally like i've never seen a glitch like, that
ever and it's it's kind of like the phone, was
buffering like the, whole phone the, whole screen, you know.
Regular iPhone it's like the whole screen interface was, just
buffering almost like it wouldn't let me make. A call

(01:16:41):
it would like it was like. Not allowing, and, so
yeah that was the most terrifying night in. MY life
i still don't really have. An answer i've seen similar,
stuff online but they don't have an. ANSWER neither i can,

(01:17:04):
confidently say like being an experiencer of, some sort that
the true nature we are just really not. Ready for
and that night proved it to Me because i've always, asked,
myself like, you, know classic why don't the aliens just
land on the front lawn Of The, white house, you

(01:17:26):
know and say hello and, you know or why don't,
you know shape shifters just, Say hey i'm a shape shifter,
or whatever, You Know like i've always had those questions
like what's the big? Cover up? But WHATEVER because i
used to have this theory THAT when i first got
INTO the, ufo topic, you know back when, the files

(01:17:47):
the classified files, Were released i'm like there's more. To earth,
you know this is not just no floating rock that we, Evolved,
on like there's more, To earth like, there's coincidences, there's
primitives there's, there's, psychics right there's, you know angel encounters
of how people got pulled when they're about to get

(01:18:08):
hit from. A, car like there's there's, something, Else right
and that kind of like answered my question a, little, bit,
like yes there is something else, and no we're. Not
ready you Know what, I'm, saying no we're.

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
Not.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Ready Uh and i'm saying that only because let's just
say that was some telepathic or whatever that summoned me out.
The house what else is possible with? The mind.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
So, you know this is not me continually bringing up my,
own SHOW and i don't mean to, do that but
and this might actually freak you out more Than The.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Grinning man but these, are trends, you know these are
trends that YOU know i. Look for, i'm like let
me make sure that there's other encounters of, this Sort and.
You're right on the show and online there are these
trends of these. Supernatural, occurrences absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
So check this Out and i'll send you this one
to beyond The second robert episode. There is it's episode,
eighty five and it's Titled An. Unfounded call so it was,
way back so god knows what the audio. SOUNDS like
i apologize, in advance but it was at. The time
he was not the time. We talked he was an

(01:19:23):
ex deputy sheriff at the time that, we talked but
when this, event occurred he was a. Deputy sheriff he
there was an abandoned house that kept getting nine to
one to, one calls and when people go out and
it's an, abandoned place there's, nobody there they go check.
It out it's called an. Unfounded, call well a call.

(01:19:43):
Comes in he goes to. The house he's looking through
the sliding GLASS door i believe that, it was and
he sees a shadow going up. The stairs, he goes,
oh shit it's not an unfounded call. This time there,
is someone, you know probably, squatting whatever. Right right he
goes in and he goes upstairs and in the corner
of one of the rooms IS a i think. It

(01:20:04):
was don't, quote me it's been a While since i've
listened to this even but seven to eight foot tall
shadow being in the corner and then he has hours
and hours of. Missing time he wakes up in his
squad car with his radio just, blowing up and, everyone's
like where the f are you get on? Your radio

(01:20:25):
what the hell is? Going on you know where?

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
You've been oh? My, God. Yes eric and you know
what's so FUNNY is i love that when stuff like,
this happens it's somebody usually like pretty in a good state. Of,
mind yep they got they got work going. For them
there your total mundane person doing mundane things and they

(01:20:49):
have this, you know even even like in another trend
is it's always, somewhere comfortable like whether they're a spond
back into the car or right in front of their
APARTMENT like, i was, or whatever but it's always like,
here's home, you know like, we know we know you're. Comfortable, Here,
yeah like, oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
You're good nothing happened, to you just nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
To, see, Here yeah versus like an, assault victim, you
know they'll let them out in the middle of, the road,
You know, god forbid which, is terrible, but yeah that's
that's the type of things. That happen so it is.
Definitely weird so, missing time telepathic MESSAGING and i don't know,
to say shape shifting. Or whatever but we are. Not

(01:21:28):
ready we're, not ready. YOU know i don't even think
our educated officials are ready to honestly know what goes
on between our worlds and will creep me out the
most with. My stories, i'm like you always hear stuff
about Like in louisiana or like, you Know, the carolinas
or like, you know somewhere remote and like, you know

(01:21:49):
of course something scary gonna happen there every ain't nobody for,
two blocks, you know. Or whatever but with me Living,
In la, i'm like it just it just spookes me to.
The court it just spooke me to. The CORE and
i can't really explain it to anybody who hasn't, you
know heard countless stories like, you have. You know trying
to explain it to my childhood best friend who we've

(01:22:09):
only Been in la our whole lives and never had
anything like, This happen, I'M like i want to, tell
YOU but i can't even. Tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Do you know if and, you know we don't have
to get into your family, or anything but do you
know if anybody in your family that, you, know oh
stories are passed Down from grandma or any anything like
that in, your family.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
You know what's So FUNNY and i should have probably
elaborated more between what me and mom were talking about
at my time and going, back home but this is
maybe about some time it passed from when this original experience,
had happened and she was like? What, happened like she,
Was like, i'm like you Don't even, i'm like imagine
seeing your neighbor turn into. A whrewoof that's gonna mess

(01:22:57):
with you for, some, time right that's gonna, you, know psychologically,
you know correct you a little. Bit right and she's,
Like Right and, I'M like i had an EXPERIENCE that
i can't even explain and it's just changed.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
Me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Forever mom, You know i'm talking confining to my mother
and she's like. Like what, She's, like okay one TIME
when i was Living, WITH granny i looked out the
WINDOW and i SEEN a Ufo and, i'm, like oh
thanks for just dropping that dime, On Me like i've
never heard that. Story before she, was like but, YOU
know i just looked up at the sky and, Was,
like okay THAT'S. A UFO nothing i, could do BUT

(01:23:30):
like i, was Scared and i'm like it made me
kind of think like maybe my mom, had VISITORS maybe i.
Have VISITORS like i, don't know, you know it's really
hard to come up with. An answer but she said
she had an experience with SEEING a ufo in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
The, sky, OKAY well i mean so there is something. Possibly,
there Yeah, because eric as, you know it sounds like
you've done a lot, of research especially since, this happened
that a lot of this stuff can follow. Family LINES
so i. Don't.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
Know yeah and one. More story the only STORY that
i was able to find that was remotely close to
mine was Online on, reddit AGAIN and I wish i
was able to quote, the person, you know keep, him
credit but it was one of those like have you
ever had a? Supernatural? Experience reddits and she said that
she was at a. Friend's house she was smoking with,

(01:24:24):
the friends but there was a roommate that one of
the friends just kind of paired, up with never really,
knew him and as they were smoking and people discredit
this because they, were smoking she said that her. Friends
froze time did not feel real and the only person
that was not frozen was the, roommate that, you know

(01:24:45):
the friend had just paired, up with and she was,
freaking out like why are my? Friends frozen? What's Happening
like i've never had this? Happen before did you? Drug
me and the guy is looking at her and was,
Like No like i'm not from. This planet we like,
to play we like to take over consciousness, of others

(01:25:06):
kind of like a. Video game THAT'S where i got,
that analogy kind of like a, video game and we
just do it. For entertainment and so she went outside
and time was frozen again, or whatever and he, was
like look like in, one minute a police car is
going to, pass by and then in, one minute a
police passed car did. Pass by and, she's, like okay
that's just like, a coincidence but what happened to? My
friends like why are? They frozen like that's the only

(01:25:28):
way she was, describing it and he, was, like okay
you don't. Believe me and, one minute two guys are
going to come out of that abandoned building and all
black and look. At us and then one minute passed
and two guys in that building came out and looked,
at them and, she's, like okay what the fuck is?
Going on like she's, getting defensive and he, was like
you're not ready for the true nature of this world

(01:25:49):
or whatever, like that and her, friends UNFROZE which i
can't even wrap my head around the, world freezing let alone.
Your friends but, they froze and she got up out
of the. Friend's house she tried to call that night, and,
said like where do you guys know this? Guy from
like who? Is he and they, were, LIKE oh i,
Don't KNOW like i just want a. Cheaper rent and

(01:26:09):
then the next day they weren't able to, find Him,
no facebook no nothing, of him like just. Completely gone
so there's some questionable things going on, down here. FOR
sure i just think that we can't even begin to
wrap our head.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Round, It see and isn't that the most messed up thing?
About it as this whole thing that you just told
me that has completely changed your life could just be
somebody just doing this to screw with you and it's
for their, own, entertainment.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Yes and not to get explicit, or TRIGGERING but i
literally feel. Mentally raped that's the ONLY comparison i. Could
Put and i'm sorry, trigger warnny but that's the ONLY
comparison i could put to THIS is i feel. MENTALLY
raped i feel like my mind was taken advantage of,
my time was taken advantage OF what i was seeing

(01:27:01):
and my loss. Of time it was just it's just
like a whole lot. IT shit i DIDN'T watch tv.
FOR months I didn't i listened to like only a
ten song playlist. FOR months i didn't talk. TO anybody
i got a new. Phone number i've actually gained a
little bit of weight BECAUSE all i was doing was
coming home, and EATING like i wasn't, moving AROUND so

(01:27:23):
i kind of gained like. Fifteen. Pounds, uh yeah it's
completely changed full circle. TO me I don't i'm not
going to SAY that i don't have, that spark but,
You know i'm definitely kind of sit around knowing that
there's more to this WORLD and i don't want to
run into anything like. That again and it's always in

(01:27:45):
the back of. My MIND but i into to kind
of like put things like better to BETTER since i
actually work in the mental health field AND so i
have to actually be strong for a lot of. Our
clients and THAT'S why, i SAID like i kind of
took like an educational approach. To it but other than

(01:28:07):
going to work and like helping people, GET better I
don't i'm not INTERESTED.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Here. I, GO sorry i thought it was the. Last
question we're, GETTING there. I promise i'm. So sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
YOU'RE good i have all. The time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
You're good do you think that that woman was for
lack of a, better term it's a very, loose term
but just just, for everyone just go. With me do
you think that that woman was quote unquote placed there so,
that you, you know your your path may have been to,
your apartment but now you you push this woman and
now you're you're going off now to the.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
ELEMENTARY school i didn't think about that because she was
kind of right in, front, of like, you know in
front of my, neighbor's house which is my house. Next door,
SO yeah i never thought. About that i've never thought.
About that that would kind of, make sense and looking
at it kind of Like a. Monopoly game that's kind
of how it. FELT like i had an occurrence at

(01:29:04):
every checkpoint that affected the, next. Checkpoint, RIGHT yeah i
didn't cut, to eventually which creeps me out to, this
day lead me to burying my phone and then having
the loss. Of time it's kind of like a like
free whale manipulation predestined JOURNEY that i, went on, you

(01:29:26):
know because if she wasn't in front of near, MY
house i probably just would have made a rite and
went into. My house But instead i'm like move AND
then i, pushed her AND then i. Kept Running then, i'm,
like okay let me go to. The school, oh perfect
the school gates. Are, open boom there. He is let
me get the hell out. Of here my phone is about.
TO die i need. My phone phone. Starts glitching, i'm like,

(01:29:46):
oh no they've taken over. My Phone and, i'm like
let me put my phone behind these. Trash cans and,
after THAT girl i don't. Even remember but the ultimate
and undeniable thing from that night is how many sane
people of, you know responsibility having do you know this

(01:30:08):
just hanging out outside? FOR hours i don't know. That
many and before this it would not have. Been me
so the fact that from let's just EVEN say i
was drawn outside at, one o'clock the fact from one
o'clock to when the sun, CAME up i can't even

(01:30:30):
tell you what happened for, four five.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Three, hours yeah that's the worst part of this. Whole
thing that's the, part, that yeah there's no there's no
chuckling about that or making a joke about that because
that is real.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
Dark. Shit, yeah yeah and so and do you SEE
why i kind of like just full three sixty my
Life because, i'm, like now who the HELL? Am? I
actually i WAS because i work in the mental, health
field advise that we have our own mental, health therapists.
You KNOW so i was actually seeing a therapist for
a year just as an outlet working in the psychologist.

(01:31:09):
PSYCHOLOGY filp i have my own therapist and love my therapist,
to death like she's the COOLEST and i could talk
to her about anything and she was just there as
support because OF what i see. During work after, THAT
experience i canceled all my appointments with. MY therapist i changed.
My number i'm actually in the process of, moving.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Too because you are still in that same apartment.

Speaker 10 (01:31:32):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
Now, Yeah yeah it's not so much of the. Triggering
remembering it's more so a sense, of like nobody can
probably Understand where i'm, coming from nobody can probably help,
With This so i'm just going to go far away.

(01:31:54):
BE happy i always wanted to live a little bit
away from, the city So now i'm moving quite some
miles out of. The CITY so i always wanted To
and i'm just going to just live every day like
it's the LAST because i don't know what the hell
is going on down. HERE anymore, I.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Mean i can understand you wanting to turn into a
hermit because every time you went outside, your house you
were afraid you were going to see one. Of them mm.

Speaker 3 (01:32:21):
Hmm exactly AND so i actually had a weird experience.
At WORK and i do think that there's a link
between mental health and SUPERNATURAL and i won't get too
much into THAT because i think it's a. Little CONTROVERSIAL
but i had a client who, asked Me and i've
never spoken to this, client before and my job is

(01:32:42):
just to help people. GET better i won't, disclose what
but to help people get better that are dealing with.
Mental HEALTH and i had a client that came up
to ME and i never talked to, him before he
wasn't a client. Of mine he, was like you Like, the?
SAMs HUH and i USED to i grew up Loving.
The SAMs and, i'm, Like yes like what, the heck
how did you? Know that it was Just like i'm,
a PSYCHIC and i was like it was just kind

(01:33:04):
of like left. Me puzzle he just. Walked away after
it just kind of left me puzzled because considering the
the WORK that, i do you Know what, i'm saying
logic is not always in the room, with us just to,
Be Respectful and, i'm like what, The, hell like how did?
YOU know i like. THE sims i don't share none
of my personal life with, my clients and you don't

(01:33:26):
watch ME when i. Go, home so but there's, some
abilities there's some. Some possibilities it's. A lot it's just
COMPLETELY but i actually love going to work because it
makes me Feel like i'm, doing good, you know by
helping people, get better and a lot of the clients

(01:33:47):
that we deal with see. A lot so it's kind
of like my escapism a. Little bit But once i'm
back into my, own world doors, Are shut i'm under,
the COVERS and i don't really have anything.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
To say so you mentioned that there were, ten songs
and you don't have to name the songs if you don't.
Want to you could just say what kind of music
it is if, You'd rather but you said that there
were ten songs that you were. Stuck on that was
all that you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Listen to, Pretty, Much, Yeah, FLEETWOOD fleetwood I forgot i
just found out, about them but dreams, and everywhere but
real escapism music to just better answer.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Your, question yeah That's.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
Understandable, nirvana yeah lots of, escape music kind of like
get your head off of. The things not a lot of,
specific lyrics nothing that was going to like trigger me
or any of. The sorts but since, this experience it
definitely made me shift my mindset from around earthly things

(01:34:56):
as you, can, Imagine RIGHT like i Don't wonder i'm
going to get, MARRIED now i could care less about.
HAVING children, I like i don't know if it's good,
or BAD but i don't make the most money in.
The WORLD but i am okay with that driving you
can cut, me off you cannot use. Your blinker it's
completely shifted everything BECAUSE now i know that there's so.

(01:35:20):
Much more so it's it just made it just made
me completely three sixty all of my all of my
experiences and even, with friends it's like, It's okay i'll
miss out on that event because, you know you don't
KNOW what. I know so it has not to like
sound like a gatekeep or anything. Like that but it's

(01:35:42):
JUST like i don't know what entities we're going to,
be Around so i'm going to just. Stay home.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Would you be open to if somebody heard this and
they were a therapist and, they, SAID well i would
love to Talk to eric about, you know what do
you experience or are you open to that kind of,
A thing like do you feel like if you found
something like that it would be good to talk?

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
To, them okay, Absolutely ABSOLUTELY and i actually now that
things are progressively, MOVING along i did get back in
touch with, my THERAPIST and i do plan on opening
up a. Little bit but, You, know shannon with that,
whole thing like, you know, mm hm so you say
you heard a voice that say, go outside you heard,
a voice and it's it's a little bit of taboo

(01:36:28):
in the, educational field, you know but, it's, like well
help because if you think about it, anything supernatural they're
certainly not about to talk to us Like in english or.
YOU know i mean the man at the end he
did ask me about the. Old lady but if, it's supernatural,
it's supernatural, you know and so telepathic. Is possible we

(01:36:51):
have to be open. To that, but again with the,
educational field there's a lot of, logic applied and a
lot of sourcing and a lot of you know history.
And Context so I'm just I'm always i'm always ready
to get. Shut down and THAT'S what i was, Gonna
say i'm always ready to get. Shut, down well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
And that's a good point that you just probably, inadvertently
made was the fact that he probably only spoke out
loud for benefit of your mother. BEING there, i mean at,
that point you had already been through all this, other
bullshit so you, were like you're not, fooling anybody but
he probably needed to act semi normal in front of.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
Your, mother, Yeah yeah and he and this did look
like a, normal person but the energy. Was not, you
know this is somebody that's walking down the street that
ain't supposed to. Know me but why is my mother
getting the sense that he wanted to kick? My ass
and WHY am i FEELING like i want to get
the hell up out? Of here and this guy is radiating?
Evil energy so again he did to the to the

(01:37:50):
naked eye did look pretty pretty normal and he was,
speaking normal but the energy that was coming off that
guy did not feel normal. At, all WELL after i,
SAID no i don't know what you're, talking about get away,
from me just, walked AWAY like, i know it's just like,
walked away just, walked away, not know have a, nice day,
not no sorry to bother you two miss, You know

(01:38:11):
and how did you know to stop in front of
our car and? Asked me it just completely fucks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
With me yeah to the person that actually, did it
and he, knew that he knew that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
You. Did. Yeah yeah there was nobody else outside at,
The Time and i'm just thinking about It that let's
say this guy, was walking that happened at twelve one o'clock.
At night it's six in the, morning now so you
just would have there would have been cops looking, for
me there would have been him looking like, you know
there would have been a lot of logic applied to.

(01:38:42):
That scenario, but coincidentally after this, missing time you come
up to the car and know toe stop in. Our
car the whole thing just just fucks.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
WITH me i feel like that that man and let's
just assume it's the same dude that was playing with you.
ALL night i feel like that that, next morning that
was the cherry on top to say to say, To,
you eric just in case you wanted to pass all
this off in your mind as you slept walk and
you had a Weird dream, oh, No dude you're gonna

(01:39:15):
make sure you are awake sitting with your mother in
the daytime the, next Morning and i'm gonna walk right
the f up to you and talk, to you and
you're gonna look at me and have that same horrible
feeling and Know that i'm not normal and all that.
Shit happened.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
Mm hmm it's definitely a wanting to make sure that
this is none of this is. No, coincidence yeah that's
what the, Whole interrect that's what that whole night, is
is was that this is. NO coincidence i am probably

(01:39:51):
not Your. Average joe he's that those encounters were not
with the average male or women quote un, to say
because there was one lady That but, i'm like maybe
this person was able to shift into all these people
and going to. DIFFERENT places i can't physically wrap my head,

(01:40:11):
around IT but i KNOW that i remember having this feeling,
of afterwards like, you GOT like. I don't i hardly go,
On RED like, I said i'm not really, on LINE
but i kind of have this like dust my hands
kind of feeling like you guys, got it, the supernatural y'all,
got it y'all want no more questions, For me no
more theories. For me. I'm good you guys. Got it

(01:40:34):
and especially After the, ROBERT episode i got the. CONFIRMATION
too i, was, like yep there's something going. On here
you guys. Got it i'll just go to work and.
Go home don't have to worry. About me i'm not.
A threat. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
I'm so sorry that all that happened. To you.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
It's okay it's SOMETHING that i will. Never FORGET and
i won't say change my life for, the BETTER because
i really do miss my, old life, you KNOW before
i KNEW what i, Know now but. It's okay it
kind of makes me, not overprotective but extremely protective, as,
well like, you know call me when you, get there

(01:41:16):
let me know if you. Need anything you know it
kind OF really i KIND of i always, meant it
BUT now i really do. Mean it and, then two
it kind of lets me have this kind of like,
go ahead have your fun, without me, you know, With
EVERYBODY like i want you guys to live your life,
not knowing. YOU know i told, my friend one of.
My friends she was like because at, THAT time i

(01:41:37):
had just shut my phone off and she, WAS like
i knew something. Was wrong because my birthday was coming
up and you were nowhere to. Be FOUND so i
called your MOM and i, was, LIKE no, i, know
girl but like you don't you don't even want to
KNOW what. I saw and she was like THAT'S all
i got. To, hear like, you know she kind of.
Accepted it and so this is the one Friend that
i'm still talking to because she ACCEPTS that i went

(01:41:58):
through SOMETHING that i can't explain to YOU and i
probably can't protect. You from and, you KNOW and i
won't go, in depth but my, best friend she was,
you know she has her degree and she was, trying to,
you know apply logic and it wasn't interfering with, our
relationship but it kind of just made me want to
just let her live. Her life not knowing that her

(01:42:21):
friend had went through something, Like this well that's it,
hurts her but you know it's to protect her. As.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
Well, yeah well and that's the problem because when you
whether you're talking about talking to your best friend or
to this therapist that you want to begin to talk,
to again is it this whole thing starts off with
something that, isn't logical and then every step after that
doesn't fit into a normal box every, single step and

(01:42:50):
it really does seem like you, were targeted and the
whole thing did, seem planned and you, are going why
the did you do this? To me and you'll never get, the,
answer unfortunately and it's changed your. Whole life but that's
the problem is that the second, you, SAY well i had,
THIS pull i was told in so many words but,

(01:43:12):
not words to. Go outside and then the second that,
comes out, they're, like well what do, You, mean like
what do you? Told, someone yeah someone's in. The, House,
no no you're. Not understanding, you, go, no no that's and,
You're going i'm just, starting this like there's more, to
come and then you just get. Shut down, so.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Yeah yeah and and THAT'S why i had to throw
a little context in, there THAT LIKE i i was
at the height of, my career. MY life i just,
Finished school i'm in my, OWN place i got my,
New car i'm starting my job soon, helping people which
Is what i've always wanted to DO since i was in.

(01:43:56):
Junior high, you know my parents have two kids that,
got education got. Good, Jobs like i'm feeling pretty great.
About myself so to THINK that i would voluntarily make,
this up it's not. AN insult i can get how
people wouldn't be able to follow, you know you, Know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
What eric what you just said makes me think of
something that sounds. Extremely woo and you use that, term
TWO which i love so. High five but, you know
people get like weird about. This stuff BUT can i
just say that what you just said about how where
your life was at, that point it sounds like and
again this sounds really like, granola woo but that, you
were you were yourself happy and vibrating at a really.

(01:44:40):
High level so maybe that made you into this beacon
for these assholes or that one at if it's just,
one asshole, you know gin or whatever entity from the
fifth of mention. To go you, know what he. Looks
fun eric looks fun.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
To, Me RIGHT and i thought, about THAT and, i also,
you know some. More WU but i kind of, thought
like BECAUSE where i, am now it's. So profound, you
know this is not like my past versions. Of myself
LIKE like, i said it made me, Quit liquor it
made me quit, Meaningless connections it made me, you know

(01:45:18):
it just fulled three. Sixty ME and i do think
that after SOME time i will be able to vibrate
higher still with, you know this new INFORMATION that i,
have now and so part of me things, was like
was this for my own good in the eyes of
the other dimensional beings, or like, you know the wo
that we, Talked about like was this kind of for my?

(01:45:39):
Own good OR was i, you know, you know vulnerable
to these, you know negative energies. Or WHATEVER so i
have thought about THAT and i plan to fight through
it just on. My, own yeah totally different approach Than
what i've been doing things and with a total, different lens.
You KNOW so i do think it was, Some, REASON yes.

(01:46:05):
I do i do think it was some reason because
amongst my friend group, and everything like a lot of
the Stuff that i'm into AND that i, you know
believe and question and, you know it was more than.
The average not to Say that i'm better, than anybody
but it was kind, Of, like okay he's questioning these
things and he's able to still go out and, help

(01:46:25):
others and he's, you KNOW, LIKE i I think i
would be a good scout for, you know looking at,
IT now, i, mean yeah. Super.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Duper, YEAH well i cannot thank you enough for being
willing to. Come on and Of course i'm glad that
we finally, touched base AND can i just say before
we get off that there was also some weird stuff
about my emails not getting, to you which is weird
because once they, go through they shouldn't Go to sometimes
my emails will go to spam Because it's shannon the

(01:46:56):
end Of the, ferry radio and computers, just, go well
you're You're freaking we're gonna put this, in SPAM which.
I UNDERSTAND so i want to once we, GET off
i want to give you another way to, contact, me
oh so that that doesn't, happen again because if somebody
gets in touch, with ME and i want YOU and
i to stay. In touch by, the, way yes if
someone gets, in touch like you said in, the beginning

(01:47:19):
please like if you have any similar experience To what
eric has, said today or what you heard On the,
robert episode or what that ex deputy sheriff said on,
eighty five it's so important just to share these experiences so,
that like you're, not weird you're, not alone and you're.
Not alone like that's the biggest thing that is the.

(01:47:41):
Blaring messages you are. Not alone you're not the only
one that is going through this kind of stuffy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Life changes DEFINITELY how. I, Felt, YEAH shannon i definitely
was like a, little HESITANT but i, Was, LIKE okay
i Heard the, robert episode so there's other, story SIMILAR
so I think i'll. Be okay but there was always
this feel in the back of my head, THAT like
i may sound like woo or crazy and that, You
know i'm only be, honest too like will it? Be

(01:48:10):
retaliation you Know what, I'm saying but at, this point
let's let's. Do it let's.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Go okay that's THAT'S why i didn't Want to you,
said IT so. I didn't i didn't want to say
it and freak. You out but you might have heard
me say it even On the. Robert episode once people
tell their entire entire thing in one fail swoop, to
me even after it's just recorded and, not aired shit can.
Go DOWN and i Hope to god that that does.

(01:48:37):
Not happen but you already. Said it so THAT'S why
i want to make sure to get you another way
to contact me so that we are, in touch because let's,
face it there are people out there that, could help
even remotely if things get. Really weird, BUT anyhow i
don't want to freak you. Out anymore, Then.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
No no It's it's, total's though it's a total, You
know i'm, totally aware and it's just. The truth it's
just it's just, my truth you Know what. I'm SAYING
and I think i'll be FINE because i don't have,
an answer, YOU know, I definitely i definitely don't know
what the. Hell happens. You KNOW all i could do
is share and maybe draw. Some connections but. It's real,

(01:49:14):
You know i've been sweating the whole time we've. Been
talking you did a.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Wonderful job it took me so long to get through
my personal encounter without, you know doing the gulping and
the you're breathing a little heavier, than normal and it's
because it puts you right. Back there, so yeah you
did an. Incredible, Job, well eric thank you so very
much for all the, time today and YOU and i

(01:49:38):
will stay. In. Touch, WELL so i was giving a slave.

Speaker 5 (01:49:45):
By, my parents, MY business i. Was college i've Done,
the states, my profession my producers in the but.

Speaker 6 (01:49:55):
That's some.

Speaker 5 (01:49:56):
First story that's, all gone that's, all POSSIBLE and i want.

Speaker 6 (01:49:59):
To see the really you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Are now but nobody knows who their.

Speaker 5 (01:50:03):
Names because we don't know ourselves.

Speaker 6 (01:50:09):
Except through listening to our egos.

Speaker 5 (01:50:12):
And consulting.

Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
Our memmbers but then.

Speaker 5 (01:50:15):
That's a really and then again leads aspect me to
this question.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
What?

Speaker 6 (01:50:20):
Are you that is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
The meaning.

Speaker 5 (01:50:25):
We shall see how they play with the success or
buy the cost to get.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
You to come out of your show and find out
it's be.

Speaker 9 (01:50:34):
Very hard, it's, it's it's it's, it's.

Speaker 10 (01:51:33):
Puss. Puss puss, send people.

Speaker 6 (01:52:26):
For example are quite divided.

Speaker 11 (01:52:27):
On us they, will, say no we don't believe literally
if in reincarnation that after your funeral will go you
will suddenly become somebody different to being.

Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
Somewhere else.

Speaker 11 (01:52:41):
They, will say reincarnation means this that if you're sitting,
here now are really convinced that you're the same.

Speaker 6 (01:52:48):
Person a folding at the.

Speaker 11 (01:52:49):
Door half an, hour ago you'll be reincomed if you
are liberate your moments now that.

Speaker 6 (01:52:56):
You're gone.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
The past doesn't exist.

Speaker 6 (01:53:01):
The, future muss there is. A present that's the only
way of the.

Speaker 12 (01:53:08):
Said master don't get thatspas.

Speaker 6 (01:53:10):
Said string it does not become something because there is
something an. Entry springs.

Speaker 9 (01:54:06):
It's it's it's pusssss.

Speaker 5 (01:55:11):
Has the same ideas where he says when you settled
down in, the train you can read, your newspaper and
so they were not the same person.

Speaker 6 (01:55:22):
A.

Speaker 12 (01:55:22):
While ago and live.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
The platform.

Speaker 12 (01:55:25):
If you think, you are you are linking your moments
up in the check and this is what binds the
wheel both when you know that every moment which you
are is the. Only moment this comes into zer and
the master will say.

Speaker 6 (01:55:43):
TO somebody i can have a walk across the room
and it can. Be back and, he says where are?
Your foot? They've gone so where? Are you who?

Speaker 5 (01:55:54):
Are you when we are asked who, we are we
usually give a kind of recitation of. It is that's

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Breakfast Club

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}iNTO THE FRAY 520: Robert 3.0 Los Angeles

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Breakfast Club

All Episodes

iNTO THE FRAY 520: Robert 3.0 Los Angeles

Stuff You Should Know