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April 22, 2024 45 mins

Join Alli and two experts in the realm of psychedelics discuss compounds that alter your consciousness and their use in our world today. On this special live episode of Into the Multiverse, we are joined in New York City by Jonathan Sabbagh & Ethan Nadelmann. 


Jonathan Sabbagh is the cofounder and CEO of Journey Clinical, a platform that connects therapists to ketamine prescribers. Ethan Nadelmann is the founder of the Drug Policy Alliance, a New York City-based non-profit organization working to end the War on Drugs.


They discuss their personal journeys with psychedelics, the history of psychedelics in our world, and the biggest things they've learned from them. Jonathan Sabbagh speaks specifically on Ketamine, discussing therapeutic use and it's impact on the brain and trauma. Ethan Nadelmann shares the power of magic mushrooms, the dark side of psychedelic exceptionalism, and using psychedelics in relationship.


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TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 Intro

5:42 What Led us to Psychedelics 

8:38 The History of Psychedelic Exceptionalism 

13:44 Ketamine & It’s Impact on the Brain

17:22 Neuroplasticity & Occasional Psychedelic Use

21:22 Treating PTSD with Ketamine

26:53 Different Ways Ketamine is Administered 

30:00 Using Psychedelics in Relationships 

34:59 Biggest Lessons Learned from Psychedelics

37:13 Our Thoughts on DMT

38:16 Importance of Set, Setting, and Dosage

45:39 Conclusion


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Drug Policy Alliance: https://drugpolicy.org

Psychoactive Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/psychoactive/id1574548562

Journey Clinical: https://www.journeyclinical.com


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