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May 26, 2025 49 mins

And we're back! This week, Cody gushes over the needledrops in Overcompensating, Ally celebrates another year around the sun, Kristen Stewart debuts a new tattoo, and the girls get in Katherines turf in The Vampire Diaries!

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[Intro Music]

Ally: I don't know why, but right now the BuzzFeed  article that we have is showing me the biggest (00:36):
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advertisement for just Jason Mantzoukas's face. It's not promoting anything. It's just his face.

Cody (00:50):
Yeah.

Ally (00:51):
And I don't know how  to feel about this right now.

Cody (00:54):
Just wanna, you know,  just to remember, you know.

Ally (00:57):
Just to let me know and be aware.

Cody (01:00):
Yeah, he's still around, you  know. He's still a guy. He's here.

Ally (01:04):
I don't know how this happened, but  I am acutely aware of the fact that Jason
Mantzoukas is allergic to eggs. I don't know when that happened.

Cody (01:15):
Sure.

Ally (01:16):
But like when I think  of him, I know that about him.

Cody (01:20):
Yeah. Well, that is a fun fact.

Ally (01:22):
I can't tell you what I had for breakfast  yesterday, but I do know that he is allergic to
eggs. And that is an unfortunate part of how brains work. Welcome into the toilet. Hello.

Cody (01:37):
Hey, we're here.

Ally (01:40):
We're all here. We're here. We  are alive. We persist. How are you?

Cody (01:46):
I'm here. I'm living.

Ally (01:48):
Okay.

Cody (01:49):
Yeah. I wanna bring — I'm  bringing a show to the space,
okay? We're doing a little cheeky little show.

Ally (01:56):
I'm really excited about this.

Cody (01:57):
And it's called Overcompensating. And I've
seen.. listen, I've seen people dogging on this on twitter.com.

Ally (02:07):
Oh.

Cody (02:07):
People have been taking some clips  out of context. People have been and yes,
are all these people like in their thirties playing college students?
Yes. Fucking it's fine, right? It's fine, okay?

Ally (02:17):
Well, that's the whole thing.

Cody (02:19):
I know, exactly. That's what I'm saying.  And I was like, okay, but let me watch though
'cause I know people who have watched it. A friend recommended it to us and I was like,
let's fucking do this, baby. And it's fucking funny. It's a good fucking
show. So I'm here. I'm here to defend. I'm here to honor, to prop up a fun gay show.

Ally (02:36):
Okay.

Cody (02:37):
Because we need more  of these in these times.

Ally (02:40):
Hell yeah

Cody (02:41):
It's fucking funny. It's — I don't know the  creator guy. I guess he's like a TikTok dude or
whatever. He's — he seems fine. I don't know his content though. But he wrote and created this.
It's very like pseudo autobiographical about being like gay in college, but also being like
very like straight passing, you know, and being like, what if I just made my life easier and did

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like frat stuff and sports stuff, but also like I gotta figure out my shit, you know, kind of stuff.

Ally (03:10):
Oh yeah.

Cody (03:10):
Which is fun. It's a  fun concept. And this whole
cast is just like many like alt comedy legends.

Ally (03:19):
Yeah.

Cody (03:19):
Most notably, Caleb is also in it very  briefly. We love that. He's wonderful. Um, but
my dog, my road dog, Holmes, previously on A Happy Thing, I think Welcome to Flatch and also other
things, also frequent guest on podcasts that I like to listen to and frequent just funny person.
And the work that they do in this show, the line deliveries that come out of their mouth is so

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beautiful to me, so special to me, 'cause they're very much playing like very straight like girls
girl, but like in a way that is so diabolical and so like your first roommate in college
kind of vibe that you're like, what is happening? What is going on here? And I'm obsessed with it.

Ally (04:06):
This sounds good. I don't know why people
are hating. They must just be hating to hate, which is rude.

Cody (04:13):
Yeah. Yeah, I think mostly it's  because there is a brief Charlie XCX
cameo in it. And people have taken that to be like, oh,
she's not a good actress and she has all these projects lined up, right?

Ally (04:25):
Oh.

Cody (04:25):
But also very contextually  in this, she is playing herself.
She is Charlie XCX in the show and it's just like a very over, you know, very uh boisterous
version of herself. So I'm like, this is just not the critique you think it is.

Ally (04:41):
Oh, okay. Now, I am looking at  the IMDB page for this and you are
burying the lead that Connie Britton is in this.

Cody (04:50):
Oh my God.... Okay, yes. Connie  Britton and Kyle MacLachlan are the main
guy's parents in the show and they're first of all, inspired parent casting, by the way.
Like if I made a show about myself, absolutely that's what I'm doing. Come on now. Absolutely.

Ally (05:06):
Yeah, no, I would do  that too. Are you kidding?

Cody (05:08):
Are you kidding? Yeah, it's incredible.  Um, so they are in it somewhat briefly,
but there is a Thanksgiving episode in which they are there much longer and
that is it's so beautiful. They're so good. I'm obsessed with them.

Ally (05:22):
Wow.

Cody (05:22):
But it's just very funny. The  writing is very good. It's very like,
you know, not a typical queer coming of age kind of story,
but still familiar in beats and very much about also like friendship and figuring your
shit out and who you wanna be when you're in college, you know? It's fun. It's a fun time.

Ally (05:42):
I have only heard  good things about this show,
but I have not looked for it on twitter.com. So that might be why.

Cody (05:50):
Yeah. And that's fair. That's fair. Yeah.

Ally (05:52):
I am excited about this. I — if I was  making a show, why would you… especially if
it was in college, I would also put Charlie XCX in it right now. Are you kidding?

Cody (06:04):
Yeah. Come on. And she also did like all  the music for the show too. So it's like there
are very good needle drops in here. There's a vroom vroom needle drop in which they're like on
a golf cart. It's great. I had a great time with it. I think it's very cute. I really hope there's
another season of it because the way it ends, I would like to see more of what happens here, okay?

Ally (06:26):
Okay.

Cody (06:26):
I wanna see more. I'm hooked.

Ally (06:28):
Okay. All right.

Cody (06:30):
This is my truth.

Ally (06:31):
I love that.

Cody (06:33):
Um, yeah. How are you doing,  birthday girl? What the fuck's up?

Ally (06:39):
Uh, I'm here. I'm a year older than  I was last week. A we're recording this,
I turn… I had my birthday yesterday, which was great.

Cody (06:48):
What the fuck's up, girl?

Ally (06:48):
Um, my happy thing this week is I ordered  myself birthday cake from… I had a gift card,
okay? Everyone shut up. I had a gift card to a place called Goldbelly,
which I had never heard of before I received this gift card.

Cody (07:07):
Oh.

Ally (07:07):
And so I needed to figure out how to use  it. And this site has food from all different
places. And I was like, well, I should probably use it for something for my birthday. And the
problem was a lot of the birthday cakes that were offered on there were like whole cakes.

Cody (07:30):
Sure.

Ally (07:30):
Which is nice, right? But storing that  is awful. Yeah. And I was trying to figure
out I was like, well, of course I could get it and then I could do it. I could manage to like
cut it and then put it in the freezer and save it for later. Or I could find something where
it's already done. That would be ideal. But and this is not fuck, I wish this was sponsored.

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It's not. I just honestly had a fucking gift card for this place and I wanted to use it.

Cody (07:58):
Yeah.

Ally (07:58):
But apparently there's I  was searching on Goldbelly and
they had cakes from fucking Duff. They had Martha Stewart. They had Ina Garten,
all these things. But here's the thing, okay? They were all fancy, right? They were like,
here's, you know, do you want a coconut firework cake? And I was like, literally no.

Cody (08:18):
Hello.

Ally (08:18):
Sure. They were like, do you want a  cake with a house inside? And I was like,
no, I just literally want — I just want a confetti
cake. I just want something that I could get at the store downstairs.

Cody (08:30):
Sure.

Ally (08:30):
Uh, you know, like I down the street, but  I wanna use this gift card so I don't have to
pay for it. TLDR, I ordered from this shop called Daisy Cakes. Okay. I think it's in
uh Missouri, maybe. Okay. And I'd literally never heard of it before because why would I

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have?... And they all came in their own little containers, so I could keep them
in the freezer and when I wanted a single serving of cake, I could keep it and I could take it out.

Cody (09:02):
Oh, yes.

Ally (09:03):
Which was just so much more  convenient than ordering a whole ass cake.

Cody (09:07):
And then you get a bunch of little cakes.

Ally (09:09):
Exactly. No, exactly, right? And so I tried  it yesterday for the first time. It was delicious.
That's the dream. That's the dream. It was sweet, but not like makes your teeth hurt sweet.

Cody (09:20):
Sure.

Ally (09:22):
And it was exactly what I wanted. Um,  they had a mix and match and I was like, no,
I just literally want all I want all of them to be birthday cake. Please and thank you.

Cody (09:33):
Yeah.

Ally (09:33):
Um, I don't wanna try the other  flavors 'cause I'm… that's just who I
am. But they were great. Um, and so I left them a nice review and I was like,
these are perfect. Thank you. But this is just a shout out to Goldbelly 'cause y'all
have a wild assortment of shit that I've literally never heard of before.

Cody (09:52):
Sure.

Ally (09:52):
Um, so love that gift card. And then also  Daisy Cakes, that was great. Appreciate it.
We'll probably order from there again when I don't have a gift card, which is nice.

Cody (10:05):
Hell yeah. Wow.

Ally (10:07):
I just love a single serving. It's just  the exact amount of cake that I want. Yeah.

Cody (10:11):
That's genius. That is it's such  a good strat and like because, you know,
cake is great, but it can be overwhelming. You're like, do I have to store it? Do I have
to … am I just … are these just gonna sit in my freezer until I feel bad and then just throw them
away 'cause it's been too long, you know? 'Cause there's just so much cake. You can't eat it all.

Ally (10:27):
Well, 'cause here's the thing, right?  If I order a cake, right? That could serve,
I don't know, all of the ones I was looking at say they serve like four to six.

Cody (10:33):
Right.

Ally (10:33):
If I just get that  and I keep it in the fridge,
then obviously I'm just gonna eat the goddamn cake, right?

Cody (10:40):
Right. Right.

Ally (10:41):
It's gonna be a fucking Matilda  situation. I'm gonna eat the cake and
I'm gonna get a stomach ache. Yeah. And I don't wanna do that to myself, right? In the
moment it'll feel great, but then I'm gonna have a stomach ache and who caused it? Me.

Cody (10:54):
Right. It's all my fault.

Ally (10:56):
It's nobody's fault but mine, right? So  I could do that and then potentially waste it
'cause then it's dried out or Sure. I can take two seconds and think ahead and just,
you know, keep them in the freezer and they'll be fine and then just
take them out when I want a cake, just a little serving of cake.

Cody (11:17):
Yeah.

Ally (11:17):
Fucking genius. I love  it when these bakeries they're
living in the year 3000, you know what I mean?

Cody (11:22):
Yeah, the innovation is wild.

Ally (11:24):
The innovation is just it's just a  single serving cake. Single serve cakes.

Cody (11:30):
Yeah, for sure. That's  huge. That's a huge development.

Ally (11:33):
Oh my God, speaking of developments, um,
can we talk about we have a little bit more Cannes news.

Cody (11:39):
Oh, let's go.

Ally (11:39):
We've got tattoo news. Could you  tell the class about this tattoo news?

Cody (11:44):
This tattoo. We do have  tattoo news. First of all, slight
uh K-Stew fashion corner 'cause we did spend a lot of last week kind of ripping
uh what she was wearing to shreds a little bit. Um, but she's got a cute outfit in this
one. It's nice. It's like a little suit moment. She looks like she's, you know, in like a fancy

Ally (12:07):
Yeah, feels like very Heathers.  Like she's gonna play croquet,
but also like in a sporty cool way.

Cody (12:12):
She's got a cool hat.

Ally (12:13):
Yeah. Cody
that she's got a tattoo above her knee that says mine. Hello. Hello.
She does.

Cody (12:28):
And it's cute. And it's cute.

Ally (12:31):
It is.

Cody (12:32):
I love listen, I love lesbians  and their just very outward stampings
of their loves in their life very visibly.... I think it's very great.

Ally (12:45):
I agree. Um, Leyla Mohammed, thank you for  this piece uh on on BuzzFeed. I appreciate it. Um,
for one for that and then also these great photos of Kristen. Mhm. Here's the thing. This photo of

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Kristen's tattoo does not make me jump to the conclusion that Layla does, which is, hey,
does this have any connection to Guilty as Sin from Taylor Swift? Mhm. But sure. Sure. Yeah.

Cody (13:26):
I can see how you got here. Yeah.

Ally (13:28):
Let's debunk where this is from.  'Cause it's her knee and not her upper thigh,
'cause why would we see someone's upper thigh walking the Cannes red carpet? But no,
it's from — it's from a scene in the Chronology of Water.

Cody (13:42):
Mhm.

Ally (13:44):
So of course this new tattoo would be coming
out and premiering itself during the premiere of the Chronology of Water.

Cody (13:53):
And sick of just being like, you  know, mine also in a sense of like my wife,
right? But also like this is my fucking debut. This is my time,
baby, you know? And like paying homage in multiple ways and I think that's cool as fuck.

Ally (14:06):
Right. Yeah, it could mean what  it the actual context from the movie.

Cody (14:10):
Right.

Ally (14:11):
And it can also mean a lot  of different things. It's a word.

Cody (14:15):
Mhm.

Ally (14:15):
It's art. It's about  marriage. That's kind of how
tattoos work, folks. They have a lot of different meanings, which is great.

Cody (14:24):
Yeah.

Ally (14:25):
Yeah. Uh, I think it's great.  Uh, I love it a lot. This fit has my
stamp of approval. It's much better from last week, which I appreciate.

Cody (14:32):
Yeah. She looks great.

Ally (14:33):
No complaints. I'm so over not  being allowed to use my ad blocker on
Vampire Diaries Wiki. Yes, of course I want you to get ads and support.

Cody (14:45):
Yeah. Ally
Yeah. You gotta turn that on reader mode,  baby, 'cause it's otherwise that site is unusable.

Ally (14:50):
It's terrifying without it. Um, when we were  here last week, we got some amazing content of our
girl Elena and Rebecca living their truth in New York, Bonnie and Clyde-ing it out of the city.

Cody (15:12):
Yeah.

Ally (15:12):
Damon left.

Cody (15:13):
Just queening out together.

Ally (15:15):
Next week's episode. Exactly, exactly.  I am so curious to know how you feel
about this week's episode.

Cody (15:25):
Uh, listen, we got our  girl Katherine back in the biz.

Ally (15:30):
Yes. Cody
New Elena TM plus Katherine plus also Rebecca because this is a girl squad.
Plus Katherine’s three wigs.

Cody (15:43):
Yes. Right. Exactly. And I think if  they all just like worked it out on the remix,
they could be really powerful together, you know what I mean?

Ally (15:52):
Oh.

Cody (15:52):
But I understand. They have different  motivations and that's okay and they are at
odds with each other and I understand that. But it just — it makes me sad because I love seeing them.

Ally (16:01):
There is kissing and fight  each other all the time. I love
it. There is a sick amount of tension between Rebecca and Katherine this episode.

Cody (16:10):
Yeah. And we thought there was tension  between Elena and Rebecca and there is. Don't
get me wrong. It still exists this episode 'cause Elena's fucking tired of Rebecca's
bullshit this episode, which is funny. Yes. It's not usually that way. It's usually the
other way around. But Rebecca and Catherine and the stabbing this episode. Hello. And

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the grabbing in diner booths. Hello. Folks. I can't. I'm physically unwell.
I love too that like, you know, they're on this wild goose chase to find Catherine because they
stole the, you know, letter of all the little potential spots, right? And you know, they're on

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this road trip, whatever the fuck and Rebecca's on business. Rebecca's like, hey, we gotta get
to the next one 'cause I'm just like fucking over this and we need to just figure this out and find
her. Yeah. And Elena's like, yeah, yeah, for sure, but also I'm hungies, so I'm gonna let
me just take a little pit stop, right? Right. And now Catherine's whole gambit, which is very smart,

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by the way, is chilling out in Willoughby, Pennsylvania or whatever. It's so good.

Ally (17:28):
They say that name 16 times this episode.

Cody (17:31):
Yeah.... You gotta … you gotta remember  it's Willoughby, okay? You gotta remember where
you are. The tourism board is probably thrilled of the representation of their fine city in this
program. But like Catherine has all of these like friends or whatever being like, hey girls,
um, but is compelled they're all compelled to be like close or whatever with Katherine,

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but like not know who Catherine is when she's talking to anyone but Katherine. And the way that
works out of Elena talking to this woman and being like thinking she's Katherine and being like,
hey girl, I know you were gonna snap my neck and sometimes you prefer that, but I told you
I really liked it from my wrist, so is that okay if we do that instead? Thank you. Please and thank
you. And Rebecca's trying to be like, okay, what do you know, bitch? And she's like, who are you?

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Who is Catherine? Why are you talking to me? It's so funny. Oh, it's so good. It's so good.

Ally (18:27):
I appreciate it so much. I'm so smart.  Her mind. Because Katherine was so confident
that no one would find her in this random ass place. By the way, if you live in PA,
can you tell me a little bit more context? Were you watching this show when it happened?
What was the hubbub around Willoughby? What the fuck? Because everyone seems to

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know this place. Damon even got excited about this town and I don't understand.

Cody (18:53):
It's like, my dog, you were  just in New York City. Why are you

Ally (18:56):
Right.

Cody (18:57):
Excited about Willoughby, Pennsylvania?

Ally (18:58):
Okay. What the fuck is everyone talking  about this city? I've never heard of it in my
entire life. Uh, I'm so confused. But okay, maybe it's an East Coast thing. Katherine was
so on it thinking no one will ever find her that she never thought about the loophole of, hey,
there's another person not even in this world in a couple of miles, right? In a couple — in

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a drive's distance that has my face. Maybe I should plan for that when I'm compelling people.

Cody (19:30):
Right. Ally
to worry about is that someone has the cure and it's not me.
I have a decoy in my granny house and
then I'm gonna get dicked down from Elijah and that's all that matters.

Ally (19:41):
I love her for that, first of all.  Second of all, when Elijah showed up.

Cody (19:50):
Dude, dude.

Ally (19:52):
I feel like if there had been a camera  on me when I was watching this episode,
I would have turned into fucking just anime red cheeks on my face.

Cody (20:05):
Right. Ally
didn't even think about it being initials instead of a nickname.
Uh-huh.

Ally (20:13):
I—in a good Zebo, I was ascending.

Cody (20:16):
Yeah. I'm obsessed  with this lavender marriage.

Ally (20:19):
No, literally.

Cody (20:22):
They are just—they're here to queen  out together and I love that. You know
what I mean? Because we said this about even Elijah and Elena. Like, they vibe, you know,
they just want to—they need to just queen out, right? But I also am fine with it being not
Elena in this moment because I think this is also great. I think this is a fine supplement to that.

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I think it's beautiful and I like seeing Elijah because he's my boy.

Ally (20:45):
Here's the thing that is very  confusing to me as someone who has to,
like, the Stardew Valley mines, has to engage with AO3 every week. I have seen the Elena/Elijah tag
before come up. And I've been very confused about it because we have been very adamant

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that those two queen out together. They love to gossip. And it has been very platonic and I have
not understood why are y'all trying to force something that's not here. It's just both of
them are very serious. Elijah just looks at people like that. I don't get it. Why are you doing this?

Cody (21:25):
Right.

Ally (21:26):
And then you give this episode and  this motherfucker just smooches Elena.

Cody (21:33):
Yeah.

Ally (21:34):
And I say, oh well, oh, well, maybe  that's why. Maybe that's why that tag exists,
okay? Elena had the audacity to take almost all of the accessories off
of Katherine. She took her shoes, she took her bracelets, almost all of it.

Cody (21:52):
Yep. Ally
oh hey, I have a daylight ring that Elijah has seen before.
Yeah.

Ally (22:01):
And he's an original who's really smart.

Cody (22:04):
Come on, girl. I  appreciate the attempt, but...

Ally (22:08):
Yeah. Let's—let's be real. Okay.  She kissed back though, I'll say that.

Cody (22:13):
Yeah. All right. She committed.

Ally (22:20):
Interesting is what I will say.

Cody (22:24):
Yeah.

Ally (22:25):
Uh, he was so—he was like the Pikachu  shocked emoji this whole episode. And I—

Cody (22:32):
Yeah.

Ally (22:32):
Poor Elijah.

Cody (22:34):
No one is telling him jack shit, which  I—listen, I get it because he is a gossip,
right? So maybe that it is in their best interest to not tell him important information. But every
scene he is in this episode, he is like just blindsided fully by information.

Ally (22:50):
It is so funny to watch him,
who's supposed to be one of the most powerful people in this universe,
just be shocked at every possible opportunity. Because what do you mean that you didn't know all
this information? And also you didn't suspect that Katherine was lying to you. My good guy.

Cody (23:15):
Right. Mhm.

Ally (23:16):
But all right, sure. Okay, Elijah.  All right. Love that for you and that
you're just always in suits, but bless your heart. I have to for
the sake of myself not talk about Damon and Stefan right now because these two—

Cody (23:38):
Yeah.

Ally (23:39):
—are just running in  circles this entire episode.

Cody (23:42):
Um, Tweedledee and Tweedledum  over here. Jesus Christ...

Ally (23:46):
Just cannot get—not even get ahead of  the game, but just on the pace of the game
to save their lives. Um, what I really appreciated this episode that we have
not entirely seen before was Rebecca going like full German Shepherd mode.

Cody (24:03):
Yeah. Uh-huh.

Ally (24:05):
And I enjoy this aspect  of her character a lot.

Cody (24:09):
Yeah.

Ally (24:10):
It is more interesting to me than  her pretending to be rude. It is far more
interesting to me than her wanting the cure and being like a hopeless romantic.

Cody (24:26):
Right.

Ally (24:27):
I like it when she's just  rude to Katherine. I like that.

Cody (24:34):
Right. It's really good.

Ally (24:35):
I love that and I would  like more of it. I would love
to know your thoughts on the decoy cure in the fish tank.

Cody (24:48):
Oh my gosh. This—listen,  what the fuck is going on here?

Ally (24:52):
I don't—this house is confusing to me.

Cody (24:55):
This is sick, nasty work because  what? What do you mean? And like, God,
I felt—I was so like for a brief moment, I—you know, I willed myself to believe,
right? Of being like, maybe Rebecca can get the ending she wants, right?

Ally (25:12):
Yeah.

Cody (25:13):
Maybe she won't get boned  by the narrative again, you know?

Ally (25:17):
Wouldn't that be nice?

Cody (25:18):
Or her family, which always fucks her  in the end, you know, in really hurtful ways.
And just even the fact of her for like a second being like, oh my God, I feel alive,
you know? And that not being true because she's still a fucking vampire and it didn't fucking
work because really she just took like a shot of her vein or whatever. Fuck. Fuck.

Ally (25:40):
It was such nasty work.

Cody (25:44):
Yeah.

Ally (25:45):
For that to happen. It made me very sad  because even though—even though I like Rebecca,
I think it is more interesting for me to watch her when she is fighting with Damon,
when she is fighting with Katherine. The character deserves—like she talks

(26:07):
about with Elijah at the end, she deserves the agency to choose and she wants to be a human.

Cody (26:14):
Right.

Ally (26:14):
So of course I want that for her. Um,  yeah. I don't know that it will necessarily
be the most engaging thing if that happens, but I want that for her.

Cody (26:25):
Right. And even like, you know,  the conversation she has with Elijah,
right? Of him being like, okay, if this is what you think you want, like it might not be the,
you know, cure-all that you think it's going to be, right? It might, you know,
sure it's a—it's a new start or whatever or it's a do-over in a way, but like you'll still have

(26:48):
the same problems internally with yourself or with relationships with others that no
longer being a vampire will not necessarily solve immediately. And she's like, got it,
for sure. I know that and maybe it won't be great, right? Maybe you'll still feel like shit or still
like hate myself or whatever the fuck. But also, I want the ability to make that decision for myself.

(27:09):
And if it's a flop, it's a flop. Whatever, but I did it, you know, rather than being this,
you know, trapped in this against her will, you know, for a long time. And it's like, fuck, dog.

Ally (27:22):
It is—it sucks. I feel really  bad for her. Knowing how this show
works and the way that they treat women, I don't think that it's going to happen.

Cody (27:33):
Yeah.

Ally (27:33):
So I'm trying not to put  all my bets on the table for it.

Cody (27:39):
Right. Yeah...

Ally (27:39):
But I do think that I would like something  good to happen to Rebecca. She does deserve that.

Cody (27:46):
Yes, just once, you know, I—God.

Ally (27:48):
Yeah. Yeah, it would be nice. Uh, I—I am  worried. I'm worried about Elijah and Katherine.
I'm not—he seems a little bit more skeptical by the end, thank goodness.

Cody (28:06):
Mhm. Yeah.

Ally (28:07):
I am surprised that he let himself  walk into that again, but I shouldn't be. Uh,
this is Katherine's whole thing. She's really good at manipulating men.

Cody (28:21):
Mhm.

Ally (28:21):
But who's to say? Um, I—I keep  saying that the originals are really
powerful and strong, but they uh, they're pretty fallible actually.

Cody (28:31):
Yeah, for sure.

Ally (28:33):
Um, speaking of—I—Klaus  is going through it this week.

Cody (28:40):
Dude, there's like a—I just—in the  background just like a torture chamber
going on inside Klaus's mind that is really like totally a big—a big
shift from everything else that's going on here.

Ally (28:54):
Because we are kind of having this like Tom  and Jerry-esque thing happening in Willoughby.
Because it is serious, but I mean this is kind of—I—I don't want to call it a filler episode
because there are things that happen, but it isn't as significant as the last few episodes that
we've had where it's like snap necks and fate and curses and shit like that, you know what I mean?

Cody (29:20):
Sure, sure, sure.

Ally (29:20):
So we have this, you know, this—this rock  and sockum happening over in Pennsylvania. And
then cue back to Mystic Falls and Klaus is just in a torture chamber in his minds.

Cody (29:35):
Yeah. And the fact that like he's like,  you know, he's got this like white oak shit in
him and he's fucking losing it. And Silas is becoming like the manifestation of Caroline.
Loved it. Loved it. As a delusion. Which is bonkers. Um, and having this like

(29:59):
back and forth and it could be anyone. It could be any manifestation of any person,
but like it keeps being Caroline is like oof, ouch. Like, okay, okay, buddy. Jesus.

Ally (30:12):
I—I loved that Silas  became Caroline the first time.

Cody (30:18):
Mhm. Ally
I was not sure if it was really Caroline the second time.
Right. Yeah, yeah. Because it's like  at this point, real Caroline, it's like,
motherfucker, stop texting me. Stop leaving me messages. I am on three prom committees
right now. I have fucking work to do. You are annoying me, okay? Enough. And Klaus is like,

(30:42):
fuck you, Silas. Don't fuck with my brain again. Stop it. She's like, what are you
talking about? And like the fact that it's like their banter kind of back and it's like, oh shit,
this is like for real Caroline. Um, and her just being fucking pissed at him because she's like,
I'm booked and busy, dog. Like, I don't know what the fuck's going on here in your mind of,
you know, your mind place of horrors, but fucking let me do my shit. Let me rock my shit, okay?

Ally (31:06):
And that it—you—you know that it  is Caroline because she—she's like, well,
I'll only help you if you call off hunting Tyler. And he's like, no, fuck you, I'm not going to do
that. And she's like, all right, fine. And then just holds up on her phone. And he's like, well,

(31:28):
I'll stay here until you decide that you're good. And her just checking her phone casually while
we think that this chip of the stake is like moving closer and closer to his heart is wild.

Cody (31:44):
Yep.

Ally (31:46):
Hello. Uh, it—this is why I—this is far more  of a testament to these characters because again,
they don't like each other. Caroline as far as we can tell would rather Klaus holed up and die.

(32:07):
I think it is also a testament to these actors because they have chemistry here.

Cody (32:13):
Mhm. Ally
I liked it when she had the pliers and was like, oh, you do have a heart.
Yeah.

Ally (32:22):
Uh, but it did not—She's so  good. Uh, because Caroline is great
and she's amazing. I—it did not—none of this felt romantic to me at all.

Cody (32:33):
Yeah. No.

Ally (32:35):
Uh, it—If anything, they  ended this interaction as very
lukewarm—not even friends, like just on the same side, right?

Cody (32:44):
Yeah. You know, like not even like  truly there. Like obviously they're trying
to make this feel a lot more resonant in romantic ways. But again, I don't think
we've had any real evidence to suggest that is warranted more so than just being like,

(33:05):
hey, can you stop like being mad at my ex-boyfriend and trying to scour
the entire country for him for the rest of his eternal life. If we're good on that,
then I think we'll just be like fine. We could just like shake hands, call it a day, you know?

Ally (33:19):
It is—and Klaus is like, well,  you'll notice that like I haven't been
chasing him around. And she's like, that doesn't mean fuck all to me.

Cody (33:29):
Right.

Ally (33:30):
I know that you have people around  the world that could do that for you.

Cody (33:33):
Yeah. And you change your mind about  everything every second of your life.

Ally (33:37):
Exactly. Exactly. So like, you know,  could be one way today, next thing tomorrow,
you know? It is uh, I agree. I don't know that they're acquaintances. I don't think
that they're friends. I think it is more so of a like we're just not enemies at this moment.

Cody (33:58):
Mhm.

Ally (33:58):
I think that—It's like  a temporary truce, you know?
Exactly. Yes. Especially when Klaus  realizes, right, that like he wasn't dying.
This was all just Silas giving him the pain and he was like, this motherfucker. Uh, he's nasty. Um,
this actor is unfortunately really good at acting in pain. He's doing his teary

(34:26):
eyed eyes a lot in this episode and that's unfortunate because he's really good at that.

Cody (34:33):
Yeah.

Ally (34:34):
So that's annoying. Um, it—the one  thing that I uh, is unfortunate because these
actors do have chemistry and I—I remember that we wanted to talk about this is that
um, Candace, who plays Caroline, is now engaged to Coach Ben from Yellowjackets.

Cody (35:02):
That's…what a pairing.

Ally (35:04):
A lot of apparently he—the actor  Stephen—is in The Originals. In what
context I have no idea because The Originals canonically does not start until season five.

Cody (35:17):
Mhm.

Ally (35:18):
So confusion right now. Uh,  but I am hoping that we get to
a point where there is no longer this overt push towards Caroline and Klaus.

Cody (35:33):
Yeah. That would make me feel better.

Ally (35:36):
I would love that more than anything.

Cody (35:39):
I would be—free me  from this. It would be nice.

Ally (35:42):
The one thing I am curious about,
because if canonically the show The Originals does start in season five—

Cody (35:49):
Mhm.

Ally (35:49):
Y'all are going to need to tell  us how you want us to watch that. Cuz—

Cody (35:54):
Yeah.

Ally (35:55):
Do we need to be  watching them at the same time?

Cody (35:58):
Oh jeez.

Ally (36:00):
I'm going to need some—question—y'all  are going to need to let us know because
I'm afraid to investigate it online for spoilers.

Cody (36:08):
Yeah.

Ally (36:09):
So please let us know. One of the  standout moments for me this episode
was when Elijah told Rebecca that she does not have a smart brother.

Cody (36:19):
Mhm.

Ally (36:20):
Because the brothers this episode,  both sets, were not at their best as far
as strengths go. One thing that I appreciated was that Damon and Stefan finally, apparently,
looked at each other and were like, hey, so we've been making these same mistakes for 150 years.

Cody (36:45):
Mhm. What if we didn't anymore?

Ally (36:48):
It only took us four seasons.

Cody (36:51):
Great thinking, bud.

Ally (36:51):
Glad we got here. Oh,  you identified patterns,
destructive patterns that you guys were engaging in.

Cody (37:00):
Yeah. Interesting. Wow.

Ally (37:02):
Wow. It's not like we  clocked that four seasons ago.

Cody (37:06):
Right. Episode one. I'm glad you—I'm  glad you got here, but like, jeez Louise, man.

Ally (37:13):
It just—you know, they took the  whole day where they're following Elena
and Rebecca's trail only to be—not on their own accord,
anyways. It's because of Liz that they get the call that his car was ditched.

Cody (37:30):
So it's not like they  were doing it proactive.

Ally (37:33):
Also, like, the fact that—hey, they are  late to this, right? Because they lost them,
right? Because they left without them.

Cody (37:39):
And also, they show up at the bar whenever  acting like they fucking saved their asses,
being like, oh, thank God we're here. It's like, you haven't done shit. Like,
this is—you just—you strolled in like days late to this. Like,
you're not—you're just here, you know? You're adding more fuck shit to this.

Ally (38:01):
It was wild to see them show up so late  into this. I will say I am proud of Damon,
'cause he is very much on the side now of Elena.

Cody (38:14):
Mhm. Needs to get it together.

Ally (38:17):
And apparently his come to Jesus moment
was getting his neck snapped to New York. So good on him.

Cody (38:22):
Yeah.

Ally (38:23):
But I was—I was surprised when he  came in that he immediately clocked that
that was Katherine in the diner and not Elena.

Cody (38:31):
Mhm.

Ally (38:31):
So I fully expected—'cause you know  these two, everything goes over their head.

Cody (38:35):
Right, they're not  the most perceptive people.

Ally (38:38):
Right.
So I fully expected him to see her  hair—even though it didn't have the red
streak in it at the time—and be like, oh well, that's Elena, of course. Uh,
so good on him. Um, and Damon is having a little bit of a
tough time 'cause he does get his face, like, full of vervain from Katherine.

Cody (38:57):
Yeah. So not—not his best moment.

Ally (39:01):
One of the—not a great day. Not—not as—yeah,  not his great day.Um, weirdly, one of the moments
that stood out to me was Stefan trying to be really intimidating with Elijah on the phone.

Cody (39:14):
Yeah. Uh-huh.

Ally (39:15):
This ego between the two of them,
being like, you need to stand down. And Elijah's like, you need to stand down...

Cody (39:22):
It's like, okay. Y'all kiss or something.

Ally (39:26):
No, for real. Hey Stefan, do you  remember when Elijah almost pulled your
heart out? Like the first time that you met him?

Cody (39:33):
Yeah. Why are you doing this?

Ally (39:35):
Hello. Y'all need to—you're embarrassing.  It's—so this is not the game that you want to play
right now. Um, no. It—it is frustrating to watch. Um, I mean, I'm glad that they are realizing,
like, hey, we do need to kind of get our shit together, even though it's taken a long time.

Cody (39:57):
Yeah, it's kind of a problem.

Ally (40:00):
So we're on the same side now. Elena  needs to get it together. We're—it's us
against her. We need to get her on the same side. And they're like, yeah, totally.

Cody (40:12):
Mhm.

Ally (40:13):
And then immediately fold in that diner.

Cody (40:16):
Yeah. Y'all, what?

Ally (40:23):
I don't understand.

Cody (40:26):
Yeah. Like, what happened, y'all?

Ally (40:30):
I thought we were aligned. You were
literally the ripper. How do you not see this coming?

Cody (40:35):
Yeah. Right. Also, like, sidebar—when  that scene happens and it's like the waitress
and it's like, you guys can stay at anywhere or whatever. I, like,
wasn't looking for like a second. Like, I looked away for a second and I just heard
the voice and I was like, she sounds exactly like Gypsy Rose Blanchard.

Ally (40:53):
No, exactly. Exactly.

Cody (40:57):
And I was like, I mean, obviously  that's not the case 'cause she was not,
um, you know, here for this. Uh, but I was like, that's wild. Uh, so that really took me
out of this for a moment. I had to, like, go back to like, what the fuck was that?
But like, Elena obviously is like, bitches,
like, you're—you're never going to get the cure in me. Like, you can do all you want,
you pussies, but like, I'm going to be killing people left and right, motherfucker. I'm full

(41:21):
of spite and anger and no emotions, baby. No humanity, baby. Fuck with me. And it's like,
y'all didn't think of this. This has been kind of her attitude for a while. Just because y'all
finally want to do it doesn't mean she has changed her attitude on anything, you know?

Ally (41:38):
Well, and also I just want to know
what Damon and Stefan thought she meant when she said consequences.

Cody (41:45):
Yeah.

Ally (41:46):
Did they think that she was  referring to when you're in fucking
elementary school and they move you from green to yellow on the
behavior chart? What the fuck? Of course she meant killing people.

Cody (41:58):
Yeah. Like, what?

Ally (42:01):
Hello. How is this surprising to any— No,  Stefan, she was going to change the Doomsday clock
down. What the fuck? Y'all are so embarrassing. I just—yeah, it was disturbing to see, obviously.

Cody (42:17):
Sure.

Ally (42:18):
Get it together.

Cody (42:20):
Yeah, come on now.

Ally (42:22):
I'm not okay with it,  but I—I would be shocked if
the writers keep her having a loss of humanity past the season finale.

Cody (42:35):
Yeah. Right.

Ally (42:36):
I'll say that.

Cody (42:37):
Yeah. Something's got to give for sure.

Ally (42:39):
You know what has to give is them showing  me dead Jeremy in the recaps each episode.

Cody (42:44):
God. Enough.

Ally (42:45):
I'm so—I'm so fucking over  it. You either give him to me back
or you stop putting that because I can't emotionally handle watching that and then
not having Bonnie in an episode… I don't—mhm. It feels rude to me.

Cody (43:06):
Yeah. I agree.

Ally (43:08):
I don't—I also say the only other  thing that I didn't—I have in my notes
that we have not talked about. The most surprising thing to me was the fact that
when we got to see Katherine's phone, she types in lowercase.

Cody (43:20):
Yeah. Huge. Love that.

Ally (43:22):
What's that about?

Cody (43:22):
She's a casual girly, you know?

Ally (43:29):
That was incredibly surprising  and I was not expecting that.

Cody (43:34):
Mhm.

Ally (43:36):
I just assumed because she's been around  for so long that she was old-fashioned and formal.

Cody (43:43):
Sure. Ally
Yeah.

Ally (43:47):
And the opposite. So who's  to say? You know what I mean?

Cody (43:51):
Mhm. We never know.

Ally (43:53):
I am very excited,  scared, nervous about next week.

Cody (44:00):
Yeah, all of the feelings.

Ally (44:02):
Uh, because it is the—it's  the titular prom episode.

Cody (44:07):
Oh gosh.

Ally (44:09):
And y'all know what they love  to do about big events on this show.

Cody (44:13):
Right, things famously go  really well and according to plan.

Ally (44:17):
Yeah. We never just have a really  good filler episode on a big prom.

Cody (44:25):
Caroline just can't enjoy her  handywork for one episode and be like,
I did a good job and I did a great event, you know?

Ally (44:33):
God. Yeah. She never gets to enjoy an event  she did where no one dies. And so I'm scared.

Cody (44:39):
Right, yeah. Not feeling  great about that streak, you know?

Ally (44:43):
She looks great though in this photo.

Cody (44:46):
Yeah. It's a great dress.

Ally (44:48):
I'm scared to see it covered in blood or
whatever's going to happen. Um, but I'm—I'm nervous. Uh,
if this goes the way it usually does of 22 episodes, we're almost there. Next week is 19.

Cody (45:03):
Yeah. So I'm—I'm—it's  not looking good, folks.

Ally (45:07):
I'm scared. Uh, maybe—maybe  Silas will win prom queen.

Cody (45:13):
Yeah, hey.

Ally (45:17):
Uh, fingers crossed, you know what I  mean? Uh, we have some amazing patrons to thank.
Would you like to start us off?

Cody (45:25):
Absolutely.
Thank you to Grake Lautner.

Ally (45:27):
Ooh, thank you to April Dobrev.

Cody (45:31):
Oh, thank you to Sean Salvatore.

Ally (45:34):
Ooh, thank you to Megan Pattinson.

Cody (45:37):
Oh, thank you to Katya Karp.

Ally (45:40):
Ooh, thank you to Genevieve Morgan.

Cody (45:44):
Oh, thank you to Danielle Burke.

Ally (45:47):
Ooh, thank you to Janae Bennett.

Cody (45:50):
Oh, thank you to Sophia Sallinger.

Ally (45:53):
Ooh, thank you to Dan Zeklos.

Cody (45:56):
Oh, thank you to Emily Ozera.

Ally (46:00):
Ooh. And last but certainly not  least, thank you to Jaylene Ivishkov.

Cody (46:07):
Pew pew pew.

Ally (46:08):
So I have a fan fiction for you.  This was written by the author Tara—oh
no. Tarapsina is how I'm going to pronounce that. Uh, it is titled Initials. This is a
one-shot fan fiction. It has 2,000 words and I wish I could read it all for you.

Cody (46:29):
Mhm.

Ally (46:29):
Um, because all of it is  really good. Instead of doing that,
I'm going to read the summary for you. Um, but I—I would recommend if
this intrigues y'all to go to go read it and go give Tarapsina some love.

Cody (46:46):
Oh yeah.

Ally (46:47):
Here's the summary. It was the amusement  that tipped Rebecca off. The way that underneath
the offended anger, Katherine was just about singing, I know something you don't know,
all saccharine pleasure and victory. Rebecca furrowed her brows. Give me that, she said,
nicking the phone out of Elena's hand and staring at the two-letter word they'd taken for a nickname

(47:10):
just minutes ago. Hey, Elena snapped with barely detectable annoyance. Rebecca kept staring down
at the screen, ignoring the questioning eyes of both doppelgangers. Meet him stared back
at her. She cursed under her breath. Not a nickname at all, was it? Or American Gothic,

(47:31):
but Elena never gets a chance to pretend to be Katherine. Not that this means there won't be
a moment for her and Elijah to share. The sky is still blue after all. End scene.

Cody (47:43):
Damn.

Ally (47:45):
So there was—uh, apparently this has—it  falls under the tag of both Elena and Elijah
and also Elena and Rebecca. So if that is of interest to you, Tarapsina has got you
for a quick one-shot. Um, posted fairly recently, just a couple of months ago.

Cody (48:04):
Thank you to our AO3 warriors.

Ally (48:08):
We appreciate you always.

Cody (48:11):
Love that.

Ally (48:12):
Uh, friends, I have a new television show  that I'm going to go watch this week. Especially
'cause when this comes out it's a holiday. So y'all know what I'm going to be doing.

Cody (48:24):
True.

Ally (48:25):
Tell your friends about the show.  Tell your family about the show. Join
us on Patreon. We have an exciting bonus that will be coming out for you.

Cody (48:40):
Yes.

Ally (48:41):
And as we say here in the Pacific Northwest…

Cody (48:45):
Get bit.

Ally (49:01):
Ooh. Ow.
Ooh.
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