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January 23, 2023 53 mins

I'm excited to introduce this week's guest, J. F. Penn. Joanna is a friend of mine, and I’ve been listening to her fantastic podcast for over a decade now, The Creative Penn. Like me, Jo is a fan of solo walking, and she’s recently written a book on pilgrimage.

While I’ve done various long-distance trails in England, I’ve never done a pilgrimage. The Camino de Santiago has been on my list of things to do since 1996 when I first read Paulo Coelho’s book about it, so it’s definitely something I’ve been wanting to do.

In this episode, we talk about what pilgrimage is and why you might want to do one. You certainly don’t have to be religious—you can use a pilgrimage to explore your own inner journey or simply to visit ancient sites or sacred places. I hope this episode inspires you to start thinking about pilgrimage! 

 

About J.F. Penn

J.F. Penn is the Award-nominated, New York Times and USA Today bestselling author of thrillers, dark fantasy, and crime. She also writes non-fiction for writers as Joanna Penn, and is an award-winning podcaster, international speaker, and creative entrepreneur.

 

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What You'll Learn

  • What is a pilgrimage and how it differs from other types of long-distance routes
  • Why you don’t have to be religious to do a pilgrimage
  • The three stages of a pilgrimage
  • Jo’s top tips for someone who is considering a pilgrimage

 

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