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January 8, 2024 55 mins

Back in August 2023, HashiCorp announced that after nine years of Terraform being open source under the MPL license, they were switching it to a non-open source BSL license. This sent shockwaves through the software development community. 

Today we talk with Cory O'Daniel, a CEO and co-founder of Massdriver, a company helping improve developers' experience of cloud operations, offering self-service capabilities along with governance and guardrails to developers. Cory is also one of the drivers behind the Open TF initiative in response to Hashicorp's changing their open source licenses from MPL to BSL. He tells us why this switch matters, what to do about it, and how to keep open-source projects sustainable. 

When you finish listening to the episode, connect with Cory on LinkedIn, visit Massdriver's website, and check out the Open TF initiative.

Mentioned in this episode

Cory O’Daniel on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/coryodaniel/

Massdriver at https://www.massdriver.cloud 

Open TF at https://opentofu.org

Open TF GitHub at https://github.com/opentofu

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