What happens when life-and-death decision-making meets the boardroom?
Today our guest is Dr. Geoffrey Mount Varner—a physician, author of "FAST DECISIONS: Think Fast. Be Bold. Be Fearless", and leadership expert—shares how his experience in emergency medicine led him to develop a powerful framework for decision-making under pressure. As the former head of Washington D.C.'s emergency Ebola response, Dr. Varner learned that hesitation can be deadly. Today, he brings that same clarity and urgency to the world of business leadership.
Dr. Varner explains how most leaders waste valuable "decision energy" by treating every choice as equally important. His approach teaches executives to quickly identify which decisions deserve deep thought and which can be made in seconds. At the core of his DPD framework—Deep Breath, Pause, Decide—is a deceptively simple but scientifically grounded process that empowers leaders to quiet emotion, activate intuition, and make confident, timely decisions.
He and Peter Winick dive into how the corporate world often rewards inaction—where delayed or avoided decisions are seen as safe career moves. Dr. Varner argues that indecision is, in fact, a decision—and one that can cripple organizations. He offers practical, repeatable ways for leaders to break through analysis paralysis, train their teams for agility, and create a culture of accountability and speed.
Finally, Dr. Varner reflects on his own transition from medicine to thought leadership—transforming his crisis-tested experience into a business-ready system. Through books, speaking engagements, and workshops, he's building a new generation of leaders who make better choices, faster. Because in both medicine and business, the ability to decide well can be the difference between success and failure.
Three Key Takeaways:
• Decisiveness Is a Trainable Skill.
Great leaders aren't born decisive—they're trained. Dr. Varner's DPD framework (Deep Breath, Pause, Decide) helps leaders manage emotion, engage intuition, and act with confidence under pressure.
• Not All Decisions Deserve Equal Attention.
Leaders often waste energy treating minor choices like major ones. Dr. Varner categorizes decisions by consequence—low, medium, and high—so leaders can spend their time where it matters most.
• Indecision Is Still a Decision.
In business as in medicine, delayed action carries risks. Dr. Varner reminds leaders that avoiding decisions is itself a choice—one that can stall progress, weaken accountability, and erode trust.
If you found value in this episode's focus on making faster, smarter decisions under pressure, you'll want to check out "Making Better Decisions Through Thought Leadership" with Thomas Lahnthaler. In that conversation, Thomas explores how the strategic use of thought leadership isn't just about ideas—it's about preparing teams for inevitable crisis-points, creating choices rather than waiting for them, and harnessing collective insight when the pressure's on. Listen to both episodes back-to-back to unlock how frameworks + mindset + action combine to turn uncertainty into advantage and hesitation into leadership momentum.
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