June 22, 2025 • 41 mins
In this episode of Life Made Easier, Dr. Tiffany Hunter and Dr. Karen Janes delve into the concept of energy, particularly in the context of energy healing. They explore the definitions of energy, its subjective and objective qualities, and how individuals can become more aware of their own energy sensitivity. The conversation also covers the differences between various types of energy, such as Chi and Reiki, and emphasizes the importance of caring for one's energy system. The episode aims to demystify energy and make it a more accessible and everyday concept for listeners.
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Hi everybody, welcome to Life Made Easier podcast.
I'm Dr.
Tiffany Hunter, I'm an energy healer in the United States and Life Made Easier is here togive you some ancient wisdom with a modern approach.
Each episode that we share tips and tricks from the world of energy healing to help makeyour life easier in simple and practical ways.
Hi everybody, I'm Dr.
Karen Jaynes.
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I'm a psychologist and also an energy healer, but based in the UK.
Today's episode will be us trying to explain as best we can what we mean when we use theword energy and with a particular emphasis on our awareness of our energy in ourselves and
in the world around us.
We're planning to follow this episode with one which will have a more practical focus.
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So,
which will actually give you tips and ways to tune into your existing awareness of energy,as well as ways to increase your sensitivity and develop your skills.
But before we get there, we wanted to explore to make sure you had a really goodtheoretical understanding of What we mean when we say energy, what that word actually
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means, because I think it's one of those terms that people use to mean lots of differentthings.
gosh, it so very much is, isn't it?
It's really such a, to be frank, it's such a terrible word for what we're trying todescribe.
It's a little like love, isn't it?
It's overused and it's used in too many contexts and it's very hard to narrow down and Iwish we could come up with a better one, but we just haven't, have we?
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We're kind of stuck with the word energy.
Yeah, and like that thing when you Google and you just end up with power companies andstuff which is completely unhelpful.
yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think the scientific community defines energy as the capacity to get work done.
That's a definition I see very commonly.
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That's a definition of energy that I think we feel comfortable with in the sense that whenwe talk about energy, you and I as energy healers are using energy all the time to get
work done.
We're using energy to make changes in the body.
Having said that, the context that we're talking about in this podcast and its companionpodcast where we're going to try to teach people and get them to understand how to be more
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energy sensitive, we're not so much talking about energy's ability to get work done asmuch as the energy that exists around us and in us.
And that is a much harder way to talk about it, I think, in many ways.
I guess One way that I think is helpful to think about energy is its synonym, which isvibration and frequency.
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So we talk about the frequency of something, the vibration of something, the energy ofsomething.
And if I can take you all back to your early school days when those of you that tookphysics may remember, we talked about if you have light as a frequency and depending on
whether or not you dial up or dial down will depend if you get the color red.
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light or green light or blue light.
Equally, if you think about it on a radio, if you're dialing up and down, the differentstations will depend which radio station that you're picking up.
And I think energy is very similar to that.
Ultimately, energy is energy.
And a subsection of that energy is measurable.
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And a much larger section of that is immeasurable.
And that line between the two has moved pretty dramatically over the years.
The energy frequencies that we're now able to measure are significantly broader and moresensitive than they were 50 years ago, let alone 100 years ago.
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But ultimately, if everything is energy, it's all on the same continuum.
And just like that radio station, if I dial up or I dial down, will depend which energyfrequency, which
vibration we're talking about.
So maybe I'm in the light spectrum, or maybe I'm in X-ray, or maybe I'm inelectromagnetic, or maybe I'm in Chi, maybe I'm in Reiki.
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Now obviously Chi and Reiki and the energy frequencies that we tend to use in healingsession, healing contexts, are on the side of not measurable, although people have made
some inroads into that in the last 20, 30 years.
And then on the other side where you get electromagnetic and
gravity and sunlight, you're in the measurable spectrum of energy.
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again, if I was to fast forward us 100 years, that line between the two is going to startmoving quite significantly to broader and broader until eventually we'll be able to talk
about the volume of energy coming out with Reiki, the same way that we can talk aboutsound and things like that.
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You make me think about, I think just about the only thing I can remember from my schoolphysics is there was this demonstration that my teacher did about kinetic energy.
So kinetic energy is the movement of molecules within substances, if you like.
And I remember them literally getting a tray and putting a load of balls in it and shakingit around.
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And the reason why I think that's useful in this context is that we can think of
physical objects, so like hard solid physical objects, the chair you're sitting on, groundunderneath you, has very slow moving molecules.
So I guess that's low kinetic energy.
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I'm not a physicist, my apologies to any physicists listening to this.
But and then liquid has faster moving molecules.
So it's a slightly less solid, less tangible substance.
And then gas has even slower, sorry, faster moving molecules.
And I'd be really, really curious to know now how they're teaching that in schools.
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Like, is there now another step on from that, which is what I think we would think of asthis energy around us, know, gases we can't usually perceive in a very tangible way.
You know, they put us, they add a smell to the gas we use for cooking so that we candetect it.
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But otherwise we know it's there, we trust that it works, it can be measured and itignites flames that we can then use for heating or cooking or whatever.
But the next step on from that is that like an even faster moving molecules and somethingthat physically is less, even less tangible, that as you say, they are beginning to...
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scientists are beginning to be able to start measuring a little bit now.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I want to jump on the apology bandwagon.
Well, I just, you know, I think, as you say, neither one of us are hard scientists in thatway.
You know, we've both done doctorates that have included a research component, but that hasall been more soft science.
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social sciences oriented than hard sciences.
And I see many people in our field jumping on sort of the quantum physics bandwagon.
And I know I have some of those people that actually...
are hard scientists in my life and I see them hanging their heads in their hand every oncein a while when they hear people talk and I suspect that they might be doing that when
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they hear me say things like the volume of energy and just you know we are not trying tomake those claims we're really not.
It is unfortunate that there's not a better way to talk about this and so apologies aheadof time for butchering some of the science.
We're gonna do the best that we can with it to use language and examples to bring forwardwhat you're gonna hear us say is actually something most, if not all of you, are already
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experiencing and trying to just bring that to light.
Yeah.
and I think, I mean, we've talked so much about this over the years, but, you know, how dowe help people become more aware of their energy?
And in a weird kind of way, although we think of this energy as in some way being lesstangible than more physical things, people most often experience an awareness of energy
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through their physical body.
It's through sensations within our body.
And I think we, there's probably a degree to which anybody who has some kind, you know,has a reasonable connection to what's happening in their own body and not everybody does.
And we're going to touch on that a little bit in today's podcast, not a huge amount, but alittle bit.
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But I think probably sometimes what we experience as energy showing up, us having anawareness of energy is probably misinterpreted as a physical.
sensation or dismissed because we don't really know what it is or sometimes you know mightbe confused with emotional sensations or you know we broadly speaking find it helpful in
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our work to think of us as being made up of three main parts so a physical body an energysystem and a mind and obviously we have emotions as well that kind of sit within those
three.
Now, obviously that is an artificial distinction.
We've talked a bit more about this in another podcast, but a good way to start becomingmore aware of your own sensitivity to energy, however sensitive you consider yourself to
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be, is by kind of connecting a bit more in with your body and starting to noticesensations in your body.
And Tiffany mentioned Qi and Reiki as being two types of energy.
that and both types that as healers we would work with.
Qi is probably the most well known, I would say.
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And it's a very, you we can think of these different types of energies, like specificfrequencies.
So a bit like when Tiffany was talking about colour, you know, the...
like red, green, blue, they're all colors but they're different, they have a differentlight frequency and they register in our eyes as different colors that we then learn to
label as red or blue or whatever.
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We have no idea if we're actually seeing the same thing but we have learned to recognizethat frequency we call this.
So Qi is probably the most agreed upon I would think type of energy and one that
know if you ever have ever seen an acupuncturist or a shiatsu practitioner or if you'veever been to a tai chi class or a qigong class you will quite likely have had some
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experience of chi energy running through your body it's quite a what we could think of asquite a physical energy because it tends to show up with quite a strong physical sensation
that i mean i don't know if there's any studies on this but i would guess a majority ofpeople would
be able to feel some awareness of if they took a bit of time to kind of tune into it.
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And because it's quite a physical energy, it probably tends to work a bit better for morephysical symptoms than the more emotional end of the spectrum.
So you might find more people going to see an acupuncturist with a bad back or somethingalong those lines rather than...
necessarily just with anxiety or with feeling, you know, like having low mood or somethinglike that.
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Probably also just worth mentioning, you know, if you've ever seen the martial artists,you know, smashing bricks and stuff, they are also using chi to do that.
They're using physical energy and strength as well, but they're employing chi energy toreally be able to break through those bricks using
know, just which normally if you just tried to bash bricks with your hand you wouldn't beable to do.
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Yeah, and I think for that same reason, I can't think of any other energetic frequencythat is closer to a solid physical state than chi, which again lends itself to all the
things you just talked about, including when we have people in front of us who are curiousabout what we do and we want to give them an experience of energy, what we usually do is
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to get them to stick their palm out facing upward and then.
put our hands over their hands, hovering over their hands, and put an energetic field intheir hand.
And I haven't asked you this, Karen, but I assume, like me, you usually choose chi first.
Because for most people, it's so dense, it's the easiest one to feel.
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And most people will feel it as a kind of soft presence, a kind of weighty presence, and atemperature change in their hand.
I'm going to actually just jump back before I answer your question.
I can't remember exactly how you worded it there, but like put an energy field insomeone's hand.
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I think it's worth just elaborating what Tiffany really means by that.
think that's where we can, our familiarity with this world of energy means we need to be,make sure we're being as specific and clear as possible.
So when you're an energy healer and you're working with different vibrations of energy,you're essentially allowing
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the flow of that particular vibration of energy to come out, usually come out of yourhands in some way or other.
So if someone places their hand palm up and we place our hand above their hand, we can tryto as best, focused as possible, you know, let that energy flow through our hand so that
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they can see if they can have a sense of what that feels like coming into their hand.
Interestingly, I use Reiki more often than Chi.
how come?
That's a really good question.
I think my experience of Reiki is that it's also one that tends to be fairly easy forpeople to feel.
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I think the most common sensation people will describe, I don't know if you would, youfind this as well in your practice Tiffany, but I think when you're giving Reiki to
somebody, warmth would probably be the most common sensation that people would feel.
Sometimes tingling, that's probably the second most common.
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Reiki always feels like a more diffuse energy to me, whereas Qi is more specific becauseit's more, Qi works a bit more like plumbing, uh, runs down channels that can get blocked
and Reiki kind of spreads.
Yeah.
and therefore, yeah, that's interesting.
We can have a whole conversation about that another time.
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Yeah, just along those lines, what I usually find is that people will have trouble, Imean, most people are like, my gosh, I can feel that.
But for the people that are having trouble feel that what I'll get them to do is to taketheir second hand and put it in between our hovering hands and that space between our
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hands in a very slow manner.
And what they're doing is disrupting the field.
And it's really a beautiful and wondrous thing to watch them, then they can feel it.
And I think it really speaks to what you and I are gonna talk a lot about in these nexttwo podcasts, which is this isn't, and less, except for certain exceptions, this isn't
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really about feeling energy and more about learning to understand what it is you'refeeling.
And so they don't, it's like a fish in water.
If I'm just creating the,
the energetic field in their palm, they're not really sure, but as soon as they take theirother hand and disrupt the field, then they're feeling the differences and the changes.
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Then they can understand what it is that they're feeling.
And that becomes really interesting with when they feel confident about that, and then youcount to three and on three you change.
So change from Chi to Reiki, or change from Reiki to Sonic.
These are other energy frequencies that Karen and I have in common.
And to watch that person
can feel the changes in their palm and how fascinating that is.
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I think another really important part about that is how this is natural and to a degreeall these frequencies of energy that we have learned to give names to in the same way that
we've learned to give names to frequencies of light for colour, they all exist in theworld around us.
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there will be ways that, certainly a good chunk of them, without knowing it we will havehad some experience of
these energies, at least around us, outside of us, they're part of the natural world.
Most of us don't walk outside and kind of suddenly see the sun and go, oh, that feelsreally alien because we're so used to that being part of our environment.
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That, mean, unless you'd been, you know, kind of kept inside your entire life, you're justused to that being.
it's not most of the time, it's not very
noteworthy.
You you might occasionally think, I need to put sunscreen on or I need to put a hat on orwhat a beautiful sunset or something, but it's not in itself the fact that the sun exists
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in the world is not a strange experience for us because we're used to it.
It's been part of our world since we were born.
And I think the sun is a really good example of how
energy has, we've kind of lost, and I think lost rather than never had, our language, ourawareness of the, some of these energies we're talking about.
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And if we think of the sun, I mean, there was a time in history where people saw the sunas a very spiritual thing.
It was, you know, I mean, it's often associated with particular gods in cultures and, youknow, it's this magic thing that
rises each day appears and you know now science has a really good understanding like weknow that the earth is round that the sun actually goes round the that's the right way
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around isn't it the sun goes around the earth okay yeah sorry just had a moment there andyou know there's lots about the sun we understand that it's a very hot thing that's
emitting
you know, light rays, there's all kinds of stuff we understand about it.
The way we, each of us as individuals experience it is going to be slightly different.
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And, you know, for example, speaking as somebody who has virtually no melanin in theirskin, my experience of the sun is going to be slightly different to somebody who has a lot
of melanin in their skin and doesn't need to be so careful in terms of its potentialharmful rays.
You know, so how we feel it, how we tolerate heat, different, some people love basking inthe sun, other people find warmth really difficult.
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And energy is similar in that, you know, and I hope there will come a time when it becomesonce again, much more mainstream and much more everyday.
But in a way it is everyday.
So that's where what Tiffany was saying earlier about trying to kind of help you realizeways that you've
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already you're already experiencing it you just may not have considered that to be youknow had the language or considered that to be what you were experiencing.
Mm I like what you're talking about is a great segue to the closest you and I could get towhat we felt was an accurate definition of energy in the context that we're talking about
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it, which is that it's a subjective quality.
There's a quality to this, a subjective quality that we're all going to experiencedifferently because it is subjective, but it's a subjective quality that's grown out of an
existing objective frequency.
Right?
So the rays of the sun's
Yeah, the rays, that's good, because we came up with it together.
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The rays of the sun is an objective frequency.
It is what it is.
And it's very well measurable, and it's very well understood now.
But we all have a different subjective experience of it.
And that is how we're using the word energy.
The energy that's in us, the energy that's around us, and we'll get more into the detailsof that, is subjectively different for all of us.
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But it's all based on an objective frequency that's actually existing.
You know people really are breaking big walls with the energy that we call Chi
Yes, yes, scary big walls.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think we really wanted to kind of emphasise, we've kind of talked about it a littlebit already, but really emphasise the mundanity of this kind of energy that we're talking
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about and where sometimes people perhaps might be looking for something bigger or morekind of like magical, exciting.
you know, like when you see movies where a spell is done and there's a puff of smoke andyou're flashing lights and stuff, you know, most people's experience of the energy in the
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world or their own energy system is, you know, is much more mundane than that, much moresubtle.
And just because something is, you know, is really familiar to us, that doesn't make itany more or less mundane or more or less exciting.
But becoming more aware of our own personal energy and energies in the world around us canfeel quite exciting, but we can also be, you know, perhaps sometimes looking for something
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that might actually show up differently from what we might expect.
Yeah, yeah, I think you and I are on a consistent mission to make what has become seenoften as esoteric and somehow off with the fairies as mundane and everyday as brushing
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your teeth and taking care of your laundry.
Yeah, and for me that doesn't lose the magic, it actually makes it more magical tointegrate all of these things into my everyday life.
So before we start getting even more specific, Let's take a second and just talk aboutenergy sensitivity or not energy sensitivity.
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When we say energy sensitivity, what we mean is how physiologically predisposed you are tofeeling these energies that we're talking about.
And I'm just going to say it straight out.
Our species, the human species, is an energetically sensitive, made out of energy andenergetically sensitive.
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And that is what we are made to be.
But that does not necessarily mean that we are all equally sensitive in any more than oneperson is as athletic as the next person.
We are all meant to be athletic.
We all move.
We all move our bodies.
We all can lift things.
That does not mean that we are all.
equal in that level and that is okay.
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But even within that realm there are going to be some people who are overly sensitive andsome people who are under sensitive and in both those situations that's when something has
gone wrong.
Oversensitivity is usually something going on in the energy anatomy that has becomethinned or broken.
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And so instead of being protective, energy frequencies are getting through a barrier.
And I'm sure we'll do a podcast about that.
But that's usually what energy sensitivity is.
It's not a balanced, oversensitive.
And I think, I guess it begs the question, doesn't it?
How do you know if you're overly sensitive?
And I think, I'm curious what you think about that, Karen.
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But I would say if you're overwhelmed by it, if you're avoiding situations.
social or physical because you're overwhelmed by the energy that you're experiencing,that's not a balanced state.
Something is going on in your energy anatomy that is increasing your sensitivity.
My experience of that, just thinking about clients who come to me and feel they'reoversensitive, sometimes they might consider that more like they get very affected by
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other people's moods and emotions.
So they will be very aware of that.
Like I just need to shut myself away from people sometimes, or I feel like a sponge.
People will sometimes describe that.
perhaps more than they might specifically say I'm sensitive to energies, but I mean Icertainly do come across people who are very clear, you know, and they might be people who
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would talk about, for example, if they go to a particular place they would sense somethingabout the energy of that place and, you know, find that.
You know, they might see that as a positive thing, but...
might also see it as a thing that sometimes makes their life more difficult.
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Mm-hmm, right and then on the other side of the spectrum are people who aren'texperiencing energy at all I have to say most of the time when people say that to me
What it turns out to be is that they're the fish in water and they don't realize what wetfeels like.
And a little bit of time spent with them in teasing that out will undo that.
And then they'll begin to understand that, I am actually feeling energy all the time.
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I just haven't been aware of it.
But there are people who are genuinely not.
And equally, that's also when there's something that has gone wrong.
And it's usually a block.
It's usually a block in the system.
It's usually something that's clogged, something that's not online that needs to be, orsomething that is clogged up.
But you also make me think that we live in a culture where we are a disconnection from,mean, I'm sure I mentioned this in another podcast, but almost like as humans, we've
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become these heads walking around and our body is like a slab of meat that propels usaround.
So it's useful in that respect.
And I think there are many of us who have, you know,
been had a lot of experiences of being taught to directly and indirectly to suppress ouremotions, to ignore bodily sensations.
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And a lot, mean, a lot of recent research about, you know, this idea that we have threebrains, we have a, brain that we think of in our head, we have a heart brain and a gut
brain, and we have, we actually have some of those cells kind of floating all around ourbody.
So we're kind of almost like one big receptor, tuner.
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intelligence that but the the non rational thinking brain that which is the part we tendto associate with most we we we get kind of uh we've learned to dismiss and disconnect
from i mean some people can be living with incredible physical pain in their body and bedisconnected from it some people would say they have no emotions they don't feel anything
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they're just numb
And that, the more extreme end, that can be a result of more, you know, difficultexperiences or trauma.
But at the perhaps milder end is, I think, a big part of just how we're socialized.
Okay, so here's a question for you that just popped into my brain.
Do you agree, because I was just ruminating in my head, that my experience is that peoplewho are overly sensitive have not done that to themselves on the whole?
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It's usually something that's gone wrong more mechanically in their energy anatomy,whereas people who are blocked have usually done that to themselves.
in order to cope with something.
Trauma, emotions that are unwelcome.
It's not usually.
A more of a protective feature.
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Yes.
And my question to you is, that been your experience too?
Although as I'm now saying this out loud, I'm thinking of, I can think of an example ofenergetic blocks from surgery.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I've seen that.
I've seen it happen to during surgery where things have had to shut down.
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Yeah, I think on the whole that would, my experience would match.
Yeah.
And I think it shows up in other areas of the people's lives, right?
Like if people are having trouble feeling energy, they're probably having trouble feelingtheir emotions, right?
Because we are an overlapping Venn diagram, right?
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If you're, if you're, are, if you're overly sensitive to energy, you're probably havingtrouble regulating your emotions.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
And I think it does.
It's like a missing piece of how we understand ourselves.
Both Tiffany and I teach Reiki as part of the work we do.
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And we often talk about Reiki as being a really important but frequently missed part ofself-care.
So most of us have probably certainly people listening to this podcast.
will have had some instruction growing up about how to at least take a reasonable care oftheir physical body.
You know, we get taught how to brush our teeth and that we need to wash ourselves and thatkind of stuff.
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We need to keep ourselves warm.
We need to eat food.
But we don't have generally any conversation even that there is an energy part of us thatmight also need some care.
and at risk of veering into a completely different topic here.
I think it just is making me mindful of how important a part of our lives this is, but onethat's been very sidelined.
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Right, right, unless you grew up in my house and you were asked to clean your aura beforethe conversation continued.
I think that's a rare parenting tool.
Yeah, I'm impressed.
think you've been there when that's happened occasionally.
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Okay, so I think also we're in agreement, she says with a question mark, that if you arelistening to this and you feel like you are somebody who falls into the category of overly
or under sensitive, it's likely that that's not something you can fix yourself.
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I think the vast majority of people, you're gonna need, if you could have fixed it, youwould have fixed it, right?
This is one of those times when people need to be able to evaluate when you can put aband-aid on the cut in the kitchen that you just got while you were chopping vegetables,
or if you need to go get a stitch at the urgent care, right?
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You need to be able to evaluate that.
And if you're over or underly sensitive and haven't been able to fix it yet, it's likelythat you need the expertise of somebody who knows more about energy anatomy than you do
and can help you from the outside of the system.
Yeah, and I think that's really important because I would love for people to come awayfrom this episode or any of our podcasts and feel that if there's aspects of what we're
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talking about that they're kind of struggling with, that that's not, in my experience,it's not a personal failure.
It's not the fact that you're listening to this podcast would say to me, you're somebodywho's really working quite hard to.
learn and understand things.
So if you do feel like there are things that you're like, just, yeah, I'm not just notreally getting this.
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It may be that some more one-to-one, know, that's kind of a bit beyond the possibilitiesof how a podcast can help.
And, you know, it's okay to say, do you know what, maybe this is really interesting to me.
Maybe I do need some more help with this.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
OK, so this podcast is all about the theory of energy.
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What do we mean by energy?
What do specifically Karen and I mean about energy?
And we keep touching on different areas of the world.
But I feel like it might be helpful to just explicitly list them, right?
So you've been hearing us talk about the energy that we use in healing, right?
Reiki is an energetic healing vibration that we use.
I use the word sonic.
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earlier, that's another description.
It's also a healing energy that has a much higher and faster frequency than Reiki does.
We tend to use it for healing scar tissue and things like that.
Qi is another healing vibration.
It's also very action oriented.
Qi is the perfect example of energy defined as potential work because there's so much thatQi can get done, including the very useful technique of breaking bricks.
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There's also the energy of the way that different environments feel.
Karen mentioned walking into a room and feeling the energy of that.
Remember, this is energy that exists in space and environment.
The way a forest feels versus the way a shopping mall feels.
That's all the quality, the subjective quality of an actual vibration that exists and howyou experience that vibration.
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There's also the energy of people, like the predominant sense of a person.
And I think you've probably either thought to yourself or heard somebody say a reference,their energy just seems off.
And somehow we all think we know what we mean by that, but we do and we don't.
Like what is, what actually, but that's the, the, the energetic of people and animals,right?
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I think we can all agree that dogs have a very different energetic feel to them than aperson does.
There's the energy of emotions, right?
Different emotions definitely have different frequencies of energy and again, create adifferent subjective experience because of that.
And then there's the energy of our energy anatomy, right?
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The chakra, the aura, the meridian lines, each of those things are made up of energy andhave again, a subjective experience.
I think that's a comprehensive list.
Yeah, can't think of anything else.
Or thoughts as well.
I don't think you mentioned thoughts.
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Thoughts have an energy.
I mean, that's something that has actually been researched a bit, like the power ofthinking and that our thoughts do in some way transmit a kind of an energy of themselves.
One thing that I think it's just you kind of said this, but I think it's worth kind ofsaying a bit more explicitly is that there is a kind of a feel of energy that is would
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mark out a human as being different to a dog, as being different to a fish or a snake, forexample.
But within that, there is also some variation.
So one dog might feel closer to another dog than to a human or to a fish.
but not all dogs feel exactly the same.
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there's a kind of a, or, you know, different forests feel, don't all feel exactly thesame.
They probably feel more like each other than they do compared to a shopping.
I can't say shopping mall, cause that's American.
A shopping center.
Yeah, an area with shops in.
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So, you know, that for a forest is going to feel more like another forest than somewherewith shops.
But that doesn't mean that all forests feel exactly the same.
And you may have, you know, I think ways that you can begin to become more aware, which wewill talk more about next time.
You know, if you think about places you go in your life, you may have favorites and youmay not really know why.
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I really like that beach more than that beach and that
know, could be for very practical reasons because that one tends to be quieter or whateverbut you may not always be able to explain it in purely physical terms because just the
energy of the place is different.
Yeah.
So hopefully, we've given you a pretty good overview of what we mean when we say and usethe word energy.
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And honestly, if anybody can come up with a better name, please let us know.
Because it's so overly used, and it's used to stretch over too, it's too thinly stretchedover too many topics.
But hopefully, this makes sense how we mean it and the context that we mean it.
And hopefully we've given you a sense that as a human, unless there's something going onwith you that is fixable, most likely fixable, unless there's something going on with you,
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you are experiencing energy in those contexts that we listed already.
And in the next podcast, we're going to try to give you some suggestions and directions onhow you can increase that sensitivity to understand what you're feeling and why you're
feeling it and to get more sensitive and increase your awareness of it.
Yeah, and I wonder if it might just be, just before we wrap up, it might just be worthmore explicitly stating some of the reasons why you might be struggling to feel energy
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that, you know, some would fall into those categories that Tiffany's talked about that youmight need some help with and, you know, trauma and pain or other things that may have
happened to you might mean there's something that needs help with your energy system tohelp you with that.
But there will be people in your lives probably
that just don't really want to feel energy.
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We don't really want to feel more aware of the energy in the world and are quite happywith that.
in a way, I don't know that that's that much different to some people get really intosports or nutrition or, you know, and sometimes we might do that at a time in our lives
when we start to have a problem that we think, you know, I need, like I'm having backache,maybe I need to start doing some strengthening stuff to help support my back.
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And maybe until I had that backache, I didn't really care about it.
So I think it's like, probably because you're listening to this podcast, you have someinterest in learning more about energy, but it's not everybody does and that and that's
okay.
And there's also ways that it might feel quite scary.
It's, you know, it may feel a bit of an unknown or potentially a bit overwhelming.
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And it's quite hard.
We've talked a little bit about the
people's sensitivity to emotions and that kind of thing too.
And it can be hard to kind of selectively block things out.
So if, if you're in some way struggling with emotional stuff, either in coping with otherpeople's emotions or in your own emotional stuff, it may be that for you right now, being
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a little bit blocked in terms of your energy awareness might actually be a pretty, youknow, a helpful thing until you can sort out some of that emotional stuff and then it will
be easier to, kind of connect in with those other.
parts of yourself.
So I just wanted to be a bit more explicit about some of those things we were saying thatmight make feeling energy be a bit more difficult.
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Explicit is good, especially in this world where people, our colleagues and ourselvessometimes even can be riddled with vagueness and lack of definition.
So explicit is we can get the better.
right, so let's, hopefully we will meet you all on the other side in the next podcastwhere we can take all this information and start getting practical with it.
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Thanks everybody.
Great to have you all join us and we look forward to seeing you for the next episode.
Hi everybody, welcome to Life Made Easier podcast.
I'm Dr.
Tiffany Hunter, I'm an energy healer in the United States and Life Made Easier is here togive you some ancient wisdom with a modern approach.
Each episode that we share tips and tricks from the world of energy healing to help makeyour life easier in simple and practical ways.
Hi everybody, I'm Dr.
Karen Jaynes.
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I'm a psychologist and also an energy healer, but based in the UK.
Today's episode will be us trying to explain as best we can what we mean when we use theword energy and with a particular emphasis on our awareness of our energy in ourselves and
in the world around us.
We're planning to follow this episode with one which will have a more practical focus.
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So,
which will actually give you tips and ways to tune into your existing awareness of energy,as well as ways to increase your sensitivity and develop your skills.
But before we get there, we wanted to explore to make sure you had a really goodtheoretical understanding of What we mean when we say energy, what that word actually
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means, because I think it's one of those terms that people use to mean lots of differentthings.
gosh, it so very much is, isn't it?
It's really such a, to be frank, it's such a terrible word for what we're trying todescribe.
It's a little like love, isn't it?
It's overused and it's used in too many contexts and it's very hard to narrow down and Iwish we could come up with a better one, but we just haven't, have we?
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We're kind of stuck with the word energy.
Yeah, and like that thing when you Google and you just end up with power companies andstuff which is completely unhelpful.
yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think the scientific community defines energy as the capacity to get work done.
That's a definition I see very commonly.
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That's a definition of energy that I think we feel comfortable with in the sense that whenwe talk about energy, you and I as energy healers are using energy all the time to get
work done.
We're using energy to make changes in the body.
Having said that, the context that we're talking about in this podcast and its companionpodcast where we're going to try to teach people and get them to understand how to be more
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energy sensitive, we're not so much talking about energy's ability to get work done asmuch as the energy that exists around us and in us.
And that is a much harder way to talk about it, I think, in many ways.
I guess One way that I think is helpful to think about energy is its synonym, which isvibration and frequency.
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So we talk about the frequency of something, the vibration of something, the energy ofsomething.
And if I can take you all back to your early school days when those of you that tookphysics may remember, we talked about if you have light as a frequency and depending on
whether or not you dial up or dial down will depend if you get the color red.
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light or green light or blue light.
Equally, if you think about it on a radio, if you're dialing up and down, the differentstations will depend which radio station that you're picking up.
And I think energy is very similar to that.
Ultimately, energy is energy.
And a subsection of that energy is measurable.
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And a much larger section of that is immeasurable.
And that line between the two has moved pretty dramatically over the years.
The energy frequencies that we're now able to measure are significantly broader and moresensitive than they were 50 years ago, let alone 100 years ago.
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But ultimately, if everything is energy, it's all on the same continuum.
And just like that radio station, if I dial up or I dial down, will depend which energyfrequency, which
vibration we're talking about.
So maybe I'm in the light spectrum, or maybe I'm in X-ray, or maybe I'm inelectromagnetic, or maybe I'm in Chi, maybe I'm in Reiki.
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Now obviously Chi and Reiki and the energy frequencies that we tend to use in healingsession, healing contexts, are on the side of not measurable, although people have made
some inroads into that in the last 20, 30 years.
And then on the other side where you get electromagnetic and
gravity and sunlight, you're in the measurable spectrum of energy.
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again, if I was to fast forward us 100 years, that line between the two is going to startmoving quite significantly to broader and broader until eventually we'll be able to talk
about the volume of energy coming out with Reiki, the same way that we can talk aboutsound and things like that.
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You make me think about, I think just about the only thing I can remember from my schoolphysics is there was this demonstration that my teacher did about kinetic energy.
So kinetic energy is the movement of molecules within substances, if you like.
And I remember them literally getting a tray and putting a load of balls in it and shakingit around.
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And the reason why I think that's useful in this context is that we can think of
physical objects, so like hard solid physical objects, the chair you're sitting on, groundunderneath you, has very slow moving molecules.
So I guess that's low kinetic energy.
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I'm not a physicist, my apologies to any physicists listening to this.
But and then liquid has faster moving molecules.
So it's a slightly less solid, less tangible substance.
And then gas has even slower, sorry, faster moving molecules.
And I'd be really, really curious to know now how they're teaching that in schools.
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Like, is there now another step on from that, which is what I think we would think of asthis energy around us, know, gases we can't usually perceive in a very tangible way.
You know, they put us, they add a smell to the gas we use for cooking so that we candetect it.
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But otherwise we know it's there, we trust that it works, it can be measured and itignites flames that we can then use for heating or cooking or whatever.
But the next step on from that is that like an even faster moving molecules and somethingthat physically is less, even less tangible, that as you say, they are beginning to...
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scientists are beginning to be able to start measuring a little bit now.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I want to jump on the apology bandwagon.
Well, I just, you know, I think, as you say, neither one of us are hard scientists in thatway.
You know, we've both done doctorates that have included a research component, but that hasall been more soft science.
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social sciences oriented than hard sciences.
And I see many people in our field jumping on sort of the quantum physics bandwagon.
And I know I have some of those people that actually...
are hard scientists in my life and I see them hanging their heads in their hand every oncein a while when they hear people talk and I suspect that they might be doing that when
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they hear me say things like the volume of energy and just you know we are not trying tomake those claims we're really not.
It is unfortunate that there's not a better way to talk about this and so apologies aheadof time for butchering some of the science.
We're gonna do the best that we can with it to use language and examples to bring forwardwhat you're gonna hear us say is actually something most, if not all of you, are already
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experiencing and trying to just bring that to light.
Yeah.
and I think, I mean, we've talked so much about this over the years, but, you know, how dowe help people become more aware of their energy?
And in a weird kind of way, although we think of this energy as in some way being lesstangible than more physical things, people most often experience an awareness of energy
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through their physical body.
It's through sensations within our body.
And I think we, there's probably a degree to which anybody who has some kind, you know,has a reasonable connection to what's happening in their own body and not everybody does.
And we're going to touch on that a little bit in today's podcast, not a huge amount, but alittle bit.
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But I think probably sometimes what we experience as energy showing up, us having anawareness of energy is probably misinterpreted as a physical.
sensation or dismissed because we don't really know what it is or sometimes you know mightbe confused with emotional sensations or you know we broadly speaking find it helpful in
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our work to think of us as being made up of three main parts so a physical body an energysystem and a mind and obviously we have emotions as well that kind of sit within those
three.
Now, obviously that is an artificial distinction.
We've talked a bit more about this in another podcast, but a good way to start becomingmore aware of your own sensitivity to energy, however sensitive you consider yourself to
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be, is by kind of connecting a bit more in with your body and starting to noticesensations in your body.
And Tiffany mentioned Qi and Reiki as being two types of energy.
that and both types that as healers we would work with.
Qi is probably the most well known, I would say.
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And it's a very, you we can think of these different types of energies, like specificfrequencies.
So a bit like when Tiffany was talking about colour, you know, the...
like red, green, blue, they're all colors but they're different, they have a differentlight frequency and they register in our eyes as different colors that we then learn to
label as red or blue or whatever.
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We have no idea if we're actually seeing the same thing but we have learned to recognizethat frequency we call this.
So Qi is probably the most agreed upon I would think type of energy and one that
know if you ever have ever seen an acupuncturist or a shiatsu practitioner or if you'veever been to a tai chi class or a qigong class you will quite likely have had some
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experience of chi energy running through your body it's quite a what we could think of asquite a physical energy because it tends to show up with quite a strong physical sensation
that i mean i don't know if there's any studies on this but i would guess a majority ofpeople would
be able to feel some awareness of if they took a bit of time to kind of tune into it.
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And because it's quite a physical energy, it probably tends to work a bit better for morephysical symptoms than the more emotional end of the spectrum.
So you might find more people going to see an acupuncturist with a bad back or somethingalong those lines rather than...
necessarily just with anxiety or with feeling, you know, like having low mood or somethinglike that.
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Probably also just worth mentioning, you know, if you've ever seen the martial artists,you know, smashing bricks and stuff, they are also using chi to do that.
They're using physical energy and strength as well, but they're employing chi energy toreally be able to break through those bricks using
know, just which normally if you just tried to bash bricks with your hand you wouldn't beable to do.
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Yeah, and I think for that same reason, I can't think of any other energetic frequencythat is closer to a solid physical state than chi, which again lends itself to all the
things you just talked about, including when we have people in front of us who are curiousabout what we do and we want to give them an experience of energy, what we usually do is
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to get them to stick their palm out facing upward and then.
put our hands over their hands, hovering over their hands, and put an energetic field intheir hand.
And I haven't asked you this, Karen, but I assume, like me, you usually choose chi first.
Because for most people, it's so dense, it's the easiest one to feel.
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And most people will feel it as a kind of soft presence, a kind of weighty presence, and atemperature change in their hand.
I'm going to actually just jump back before I answer your question.
I can't remember exactly how you worded it there, but like put an energy field insomeone's hand.
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I think it's worth just elaborating what Tiffany really means by that.
think that's where we can, our familiarity with this world of energy means we need to be,make sure we're being as specific and clear as possible.
So when you're an energy healer and you're working with different vibrations of energy,you're essentially allowing
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the flow of that particular vibration of energy to come out, usually come out of yourhands in some way or other.
So if someone places their hand palm up and we place our hand above their hand, we can tryto as best, focused as possible, you know, let that energy flow through our hand so that
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they can see if they can have a sense of what that feels like coming into their hand.
Interestingly, I use Reiki more often than Chi.
how come?
That's a really good question.
I think my experience of Reiki is that it's also one that tends to be fairly easy forpeople to feel.
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I think the most common sensation people will describe, I don't know if you would, youfind this as well in your practice Tiffany, but I think when you're giving Reiki to
somebody, warmth would probably be the most common sensation that people would feel.
Sometimes tingling, that's probably the second most common.
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Reiki always feels like a more diffuse energy to me, whereas Qi is more specific becauseit's more, Qi works a bit more like plumbing, uh, runs down channels that can get blocked
and Reiki kind of spreads.
Yeah.
and therefore, yeah, that's interesting.
We can have a whole conversation about that another time.
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Yeah, just along those lines, what I usually find is that people will have trouble, Imean, most people are like, my gosh, I can feel that.
But for the people that are having trouble feel that what I'll get them to do is to taketheir second hand and put it in between our hovering hands and that space between our
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hands in a very slow manner.
And what they're doing is disrupting the field.
And it's really a beautiful and wondrous thing to watch them, then they can feel it.
And I think it really speaks to what you and I are gonna talk a lot about in these nexttwo podcasts, which is this isn't, and less, except for certain exceptions, this isn't
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really about feeling energy and more about learning to understand what it is you'refeeling.
And so they don't, it's like a fish in water.
If I'm just creating the,
the energetic field in their palm, they're not really sure, but as soon as they take theirother hand and disrupt the field, then they're feeling the differences and the changes.
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Then they can understand what it is that they're feeling.
And that becomes really interesting with when they feel confident about that, and then youcount to three and on three you change.
So change from Chi to Reiki, or change from Reiki to Sonic.
These are other energy frequencies that Karen and I have in common.
And to watch that person
can feel the changes in their palm and how fascinating that is.
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I think another really important part about that is how this is natural and to a degreeall these frequencies of energy that we have learned to give names to in the same way that
we've learned to give names to frequencies of light for colour, they all exist in theworld around us.
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there will be ways that, certainly a good chunk of them, without knowing it we will havehad some experience of
these energies, at least around us, outside of us, they're part of the natural world.
Most of us don't walk outside and kind of suddenly see the sun and go, oh, that feelsreally alien because we're so used to that being part of our environment.
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That, mean, unless you'd been, you know, kind of kept inside your entire life, you're justused to that being.
it's not most of the time, it's not very
noteworthy.
You you might occasionally think, I need to put sunscreen on or I need to put a hat on orwhat a beautiful sunset or something, but it's not in itself the fact that the sun exists
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in the world is not a strange experience for us because we're used to it.
It's been part of our world since we were born.
And I think the sun is a really good example of how
energy has, we've kind of lost, and I think lost rather than never had, our language, ourawareness of the, some of these energies we're talking about.
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And if we think of the sun, I mean, there was a time in history where people saw the sunas a very spiritual thing.
It was, you know, I mean, it's often associated with particular gods in cultures and, youknow, it's this magic thing that
rises each day appears and you know now science has a really good understanding like weknow that the earth is round that the sun actually goes round the that's the right way
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around isn't it the sun goes around the earth okay yeah sorry just had a moment there andyou know there's lots about the sun we understand that it's a very hot thing that's
emitting
you know, light rays, there's all kinds of stuff we understand about it.
The way we, each of us as individuals experience it is going to be slightly different.
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And, you know, for example, speaking as somebody who has virtually no melanin in theirskin, my experience of the sun is going to be slightly different to somebody who has a lot
of melanin in their skin and doesn't need to be so careful in terms of its potentialharmful rays.
You know, so how we feel it, how we tolerate heat, different, some people love basking inthe sun, other people find warmth really difficult.
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And energy is similar in that, you know, and I hope there will come a time when it becomesonce again, much more mainstream and much more everyday.
But in a way it is everyday.
So that's where what Tiffany was saying earlier about trying to kind of help you realizeways that you've
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already you're already experiencing it you just may not have considered that to be youknow had the language or considered that to be what you were experiencing.
Mm I like what you're talking about is a great segue to the closest you and I could get towhat we felt was an accurate definition of energy in the context that we're talking about
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it, which is that it's a subjective quality.
There's a quality to this, a subjective quality that we're all going to experiencedifferently because it is subjective, but it's a subjective quality that's grown out of an
existing objective frequency.
Right?
So the rays of the sun's
Yeah, the rays, that's good, because we came up with it together.
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The rays of the sun is an objective frequency.
It is what it is.
And it's very well measurable, and it's very well understood now.
But we all have a different subjective experience of it.
And that is how we're using the word energy.
The energy that's in us, the energy that's around us, and we'll get more into the detailsof that, is subjectively different for all of us.
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But it's all based on an objective frequency that's actually existing.
You know people really are breaking big walls with the energy that we call Chi
Yes, yes, scary big walls.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think we really wanted to kind of emphasise, we've kind of talked about it a littlebit already, but really emphasise the mundanity of this kind of energy that we're talking
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about and where sometimes people perhaps might be looking for something bigger or morekind of like magical, exciting.
you know, like when you see movies where a spell is done and there's a puff of smoke andyou're flashing lights and stuff, you know, most people's experience of the energy in the
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world or their own energy system is, you know, is much more mundane than that, much moresubtle.
And just because something is, you know, is really familiar to us, that doesn't make itany more or less mundane or more or less exciting.
But becoming more aware of our own personal energy and energies in the world around us canfeel quite exciting, but we can also be, you know, perhaps sometimes looking for something
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that might actually show up differently from what we might expect.
Yeah, yeah, I think you and I are on a consistent mission to make what has become seenoften as esoteric and somehow off with the fairies as mundane and everyday as brushing
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your teeth and taking care of your laundry.
Yeah, and for me that doesn't lose the magic, it actually makes it more magical tointegrate all of these things into my everyday life.
So before we start getting even more specific, Let's take a second and just talk aboutenergy sensitivity or not energy sensitivity.
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When we say energy sensitivity, what we mean is how physiologically predisposed you are tofeeling these energies that we're talking about.
And I'm just going to say it straight out.
Our species, the human species, is an energetically sensitive, made out of energy andenergetically sensitive.
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And that is what we are made to be.
But that does not necessarily mean that we are all equally sensitive in any more than oneperson is as athletic as the next person.
We are all meant to be athletic.
We all move.
We all move our bodies.
We all can lift things.
That does not mean that we are all.
equal in that level and that is okay.
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But even within that realm there are going to be some people who are overly sensitive andsome people who are under sensitive and in both those situations that's when something has
gone wrong.
Oversensitivity is usually something going on in the energy anatomy that has becomethinned or broken.
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And so instead of being protective, energy frequencies are getting through a barrier.
And I'm sure we'll do a podcast about that.
But that's usually what energy sensitivity is.
It's not a balanced, oversensitive.
And I think, I guess it begs the question, doesn't it?
How do you know if you're overly sensitive?
And I think, I'm curious what you think about that, Karen.
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But I would say if you're overwhelmed by it, if you're avoiding situations.
social or physical because you're overwhelmed by the energy that you're experiencing,that's not a balanced state.
Something is going on in your energy anatomy that is increasing your sensitivity.
My experience of that, just thinking about clients who come to me and feel they'reoversensitive, sometimes they might consider that more like they get very affected by
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other people's moods and emotions.
So they will be very aware of that.
Like I just need to shut myself away from people sometimes, or I feel like a sponge.
People will sometimes describe that.
perhaps more than they might specifically say I'm sensitive to energies, but I mean Icertainly do come across people who are very clear, you know, and they might be people who
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would talk about, for example, if they go to a particular place they would sense somethingabout the energy of that place and, you know, find that.
You know, they might see that as a positive thing, but...
might also see it as a thing that sometimes makes their life more difficult.
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Mm-hmm, right and then on the other side of the spectrum are people who aren'texperiencing energy at all I have to say most of the time when people say that to me
What it turns out to be is that they're the fish in water and they don't realize what wetfeels like.
And a little bit of time spent with them in teasing that out will undo that.
And then they'll begin to understand that, I am actually feeling energy all the time.
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I just haven't been aware of it.
But there are people who are genuinely not.
And equally, that's also when there's something that has gone wrong.
And it's usually a block.
It's usually a block in the system.
It's usually something that's clogged, something that's not online that needs to be, orsomething that is clogged up.
But you also make me think that we live in a culture where we are a disconnection from,mean, I'm sure I mentioned this in another podcast, but almost like as humans, we've
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become these heads walking around and our body is like a slab of meat that propels usaround.
So it's useful in that respect.
And I think there are many of us who have, you know,
been had a lot of experiences of being taught to directly and indirectly to suppress ouremotions, to ignore bodily sensations.
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And a lot, mean, a lot of recent research about, you know, this idea that we have threebrains, we have a, brain that we think of in our head, we have a heart brain and a gut
brain, and we have, we actually have some of those cells kind of floating all around ourbody.
So we're kind of almost like one big receptor, tuner.
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intelligence that but the the non rational thinking brain that which is the part we tendto associate with most we we we get kind of uh we've learned to dismiss and disconnect
from i mean some people can be living with incredible physical pain in their body and bedisconnected from it some people would say they have no emotions they don't feel anything
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they're just numb
And that, the more extreme end, that can be a result of more, you know, difficultexperiences or trauma.
But at the perhaps milder end is, I think, a big part of just how we're socialized.
Okay, so here's a question for you that just popped into my brain.
Do you agree, because I was just ruminating in my head, that my experience is that peoplewho are overly sensitive have not done that to themselves on the whole?
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It's usually something that's gone wrong more mechanically in their energy anatomy,whereas people who are blocked have usually done that to themselves.
in order to cope with something.
Trauma, emotions that are unwelcome.
It's not usually.
A more of a protective feature.
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Yes.
And my question to you is, that been your experience too?
Although as I'm now saying this out loud, I'm thinking of, I can think of an example ofenergetic blocks from surgery.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I've seen that.
I've seen it happen to during surgery where things have had to shut down.
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Yeah, I think on the whole that would, my experience would match.
Yeah.
And I think it shows up in other areas of the people's lives, right?
Like if people are having trouble feeling energy, they're probably having trouble feelingtheir emotions, right?
Because we are an overlapping Venn diagram, right?
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If you're, if you're, are, if you're overly sensitive to energy, you're probably havingtrouble regulating your emotions.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
And I think it does.
It's like a missing piece of how we understand ourselves.
Both Tiffany and I teach Reiki as part of the work we do.
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And we often talk about Reiki as being a really important but frequently missed part ofself-care.
So most of us have probably certainly people listening to this podcast.
will have had some instruction growing up about how to at least take a reasonable care oftheir physical body.
You know, we get taught how to brush our teeth and that we need to wash ourselves and thatkind of stuff.
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We need to keep ourselves warm.
We need to eat food.
But we don't have generally any conversation even that there is an energy part of us thatmight also need some care.
and at risk of veering into a completely different topic here.
I think it just is making me mindful of how important a part of our lives this is, but onethat's been very sidelined.
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Right, right, unless you grew up in my house and you were asked to clean your aura beforethe conversation continued.
I think that's a rare parenting tool.
Yeah, I'm impressed.
think you've been there when that's happened occasionally.
(31:24):
Okay, so I think also we're in agreement, she says with a question mark, that if you arelistening to this and you feel like you are somebody who falls into the category of overly
or under sensitive, it's likely that that's not something you can fix yourself.
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I think the vast majority of people, you're gonna need, if you could have fixed it, youwould have fixed it, right?
This is one of those times when people need to be able to evaluate when you can put aband-aid on the cut in the kitchen that you just got while you were chopping vegetables,
or if you need to go get a stitch at the urgent care, right?
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You need to be able to evaluate that.
And if you're over or underly sensitive and haven't been able to fix it yet, it's likelythat you need the expertise of somebody who knows more about energy anatomy than you do
and can help you from the outside of the system.
Yeah, and I think that's really important because I would love for people to come awayfrom this episode or any of our podcasts and feel that if there's aspects of what we're
(32:32):
talking about that they're kind of struggling with, that that's not, in my experience,it's not a personal failure.
It's not the fact that you're listening to this podcast would say to me, you're somebodywho's really working quite hard to.
learn and understand things.
So if you do feel like there are things that you're like, just, yeah, I'm not just notreally getting this.
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It may be that some more one-to-one, know, that's kind of a bit beyond the possibilitiesof how a podcast can help.
And, you know, it's okay to say, do you know what, maybe this is really interesting to me.
Maybe I do need some more help with this.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
OK, so this podcast is all about the theory of energy.
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What do we mean by energy?
What do specifically Karen and I mean about energy?
And we keep touching on different areas of the world.
But I feel like it might be helpful to just explicitly list them, right?
So you've been hearing us talk about the energy that we use in healing, right?
Reiki is an energetic healing vibration that we use.
I use the word sonic.
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earlier, that's another description.
It's also a healing energy that has a much higher and faster frequency than Reiki does.
We tend to use it for healing scar tissue and things like that.
Qi is another healing vibration.
It's also very action oriented.
Qi is the perfect example of energy defined as potential work because there's so much thatQi can get done, including the very useful technique of breaking bricks.
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There's also the energy of the way that different environments feel.
Karen mentioned walking into a room and feeling the energy of that.
Remember, this is energy that exists in space and environment.
The way a forest feels versus the way a shopping mall feels.
That's all the quality, the subjective quality of an actual vibration that exists and howyou experience that vibration.
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There's also the energy of people, like the predominant sense of a person.
And I think you've probably either thought to yourself or heard somebody say a reference,their energy just seems off.
And somehow we all think we know what we mean by that, but we do and we don't.
Like what is, what actually, but that's the, the, the energetic of people and animals,right?
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I think we can all agree that dogs have a very different energetic feel to them than aperson does.
There's the energy of emotions, right?
Different emotions definitely have different frequencies of energy and again, create adifferent subjective experience because of that.
And then there's the energy of our energy anatomy, right?
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The chakra, the aura, the meridian lines, each of those things are made up of energy andhave again, a subjective experience.
I think that's a comprehensive list.
Yeah, can't think of anything else.
Or thoughts as well.
I don't think you mentioned thoughts.
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Thoughts have an energy.
I mean, that's something that has actually been researched a bit, like the power ofthinking and that our thoughts do in some way transmit a kind of an energy of themselves.
One thing that I think it's just you kind of said this, but I think it's worth kind ofsaying a bit more explicitly is that there is a kind of a feel of energy that is would
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mark out a human as being different to a dog, as being different to a fish or a snake, forexample.
But within that, there is also some variation.
So one dog might feel closer to another dog than to a human or to a fish.
but not all dogs feel exactly the same.
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there's a kind of a, or, you know, different forests feel, don't all feel exactly thesame.
They probably feel more like each other than they do compared to a shopping.
I can't say shopping mall, cause that's American.
A shopping center.
Yeah, an area with shops in.
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So, you know, that for a forest is going to feel more like another forest than somewherewith shops.
But that doesn't mean that all forests feel exactly the same.
And you may have, you know, I think ways that you can begin to become more aware, which wewill talk more about next time.
You know, if you think about places you go in your life, you may have favorites and youmay not really know why.
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I really like that beach more than that beach and that
know, could be for very practical reasons because that one tends to be quieter or whateverbut you may not always be able to explain it in purely physical terms because just the
energy of the place is different.
Yeah.
So hopefully, we've given you a pretty good overview of what we mean when we say and usethe word energy.
(37:43):
And honestly, if anybody can come up with a better name, please let us know.
Because it's so overly used, and it's used to stretch over too, it's too thinly stretchedover too many topics.
But hopefully, this makes sense how we mean it and the context that we mean it.
And hopefully we've given you a sense that as a human, unless there's something going onwith you that is fixable, most likely fixable, unless there's something going on with you,
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you are experiencing energy in those contexts that we listed already.
And in the next podcast, we're going to try to give you some suggestions and directions onhow you can increase that sensitivity to understand what you're feeling and why you're
feeling it and to get more sensitive and increase your awareness of it.
Yeah, and I wonder if it might just be, just before we wrap up, it might just be worthmore explicitly stating some of the reasons why you might be struggling to feel energy
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that, you know, some would fall into those categories that Tiffany's talked about that youmight need some help with and, you know, trauma and pain or other things that may have
happened to you might mean there's something that needs help with your energy system tohelp you with that.
But there will be people in your lives probably
that just don't really want to feel energy.
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We don't really want to feel more aware of the energy in the world and are quite happywith that.
in a way, I don't know that that's that much different to some people get really intosports or nutrition or, you know, and sometimes we might do that at a time in our lives
when we start to have a problem that we think, you know, I need, like I'm having backache,maybe I need to start doing some strengthening stuff to help support my back.
(39:28):
And maybe until I had that backache, I didn't really care about it.
So I think it's like, probably because you're listening to this podcast, you have someinterest in learning more about energy, but it's not everybody does and that and that's
okay.
And there's also ways that it might feel quite scary.
It's, you know, it may feel a bit of an unknown or potentially a bit overwhelming.
(39:51):
And it's quite hard.
We've talked a little bit about the
people's sensitivity to emotions and that kind of thing too.
And it can be hard to kind of selectively block things out.
So if, if you're in some way struggling with emotional stuff, either in coping with otherpeople's emotions or in your own emotional stuff, it may be that for you right now, being
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a little bit blocked in terms of your energy awareness might actually be a pretty, youknow, a helpful thing until you can sort out some of that emotional stuff and then it will
be easier to, kind of connect in with those other.
parts of yourself.
So I just wanted to be a bit more explicit about some of those things we were saying thatmight make feeling energy be a bit more difficult.
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Explicit is good, especially in this world where people, our colleagues and ourselvessometimes even can be riddled with vagueness and lack of definition.
So explicit is we can get the better.
right, so let's, hopefully we will meet you all on the other side in the next podcastwhere we can take all this information and start getting practical with it.
(40:59):
Thanks everybody.
Great to have you all join us and we look forward to seeing you for the next episode.
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