n this heart-forward convo, Julie and Emmy get real about our phones: powerful tools that can also hijack attention, drain our energy, and quietly erode creativity. We unpack the dopamine loop, subtle signs of dependence, and the feeling of digital slavery—and then share simple, compassionate ways to reclaim your focus, joy, and time.
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0:00 Welcome and intention setting
2:12 Meet Emmy — writer, mom, truth-teller
5:14 Phone: helpful tool or subtle hijacker?
9:12 Dopamine loops and why scrolling feels sticky
13:48 Time slurp: how phones drink hours you meant to create with
16:57 Red flags of phone overuse (even if you feel fine)
20:12 Who profits from your attention and how to reclaim agency
24:25 Digital slavery: language and sovereignty choices
27:54 Micro-boundaries that actually work
30:57 Creativity rebounds when you unplug (boredom becomes spark)
36:07 Relearning real connection and presence
39:49 Closing reflections and invitation
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