LUNCH TIME WITH DEMONS
Welcome to Lunch Time With Demons — where the vibes are real, the tea is hot, and the demons might just be more reasonable than you think. Join demonologists and religious scholars A. Bella and Ryan as they dive into the beautifully bizarre world of the occult. With decades of combined experience in spirit work, theology, and ritual practice, they offer a grounded, modern take on demonolatry and the ancient grimoires that continue to shape our understanding of the infernal divine. Each episode serves up digestible dialogue on everything from our own spiritual practice, personal encounters, ghost stories, to cross-cultural religion, mythology, and dismantling toxic dogma; all while honoring the sacred. If you've ever wondered what demons really are, how to approach the infernal with reverence, or why your religious trauma still flinches at the word "Lucifer," this podcast is your permission slip to unlearn, explore, and reclaim. Whether you're a seasoned practitioner, a curious newcomer, or someone just here for the spicy theology and paranormal tea, grab your headphones. New episodes every week. Bring your own offerings.
Episodes
Season One (Ep24) Abella's return after a prolonged illness of the flu, as she candidly recounts her experience with a severe strain of the flu that left her physically incapacitated, hallucinating, and emotionally stripped raw. Beyond the visceral details of sickness, caregiving, and fear for her child, Bella shares the psychological toll of losing access to her Clairs and team during her illness. What initial...
Season One (Ep24) In this episode, Abella is terribly sick, so I take this one on myself. I explore Satan's archetypes as liberation not as a destroyer of relationships, but as an adversary to attachment, expectation, and illusion. Through personal reflection, the conversation unpacks the critical distinction between connection and clinging, revealing how much of our suffering arises from the need to control ho...
Season One (Ep23) This episode marks an important milestone as the podcast welcomes its very first guest Ashe Sorriel. One of the readers to join the expanding Bell Tarot & Company. Abella and Ryan open by reflecting on the growth of both the podcast and Abella's practice, emphasizing the importance of community, trust, and collaboration in occult work. Ashe is introduced not only as a reader, but as a long-time practitioner whose ...
In this episode, Abella tells a story about a recent conversation with a family member about friendship; what we expect from the people we love, what we actually need, and how messy those conversations can get.
A simple chat turns into a reflection on how we outgrow old dynamics, how we choose better ones, and how family sometimes says the accidental truth we didn't know we needed.
A sho...
Season One (Ep22 )This episode centers on healing, spiritual perspective, and the subtle ways the divine interacts with daily life. Abella shares an update on her post-surgery recovery and how the slow, humbling process has reshaped her connection with the divine, especially Lucifer. Abella describes how healing forced her to slow down, release expectations, and appreciate small, nuanced signs rather than drama...
Season One (Ep21) This episode explores the figure of Satan, addressing common misconceptions while offering our own theological perspectives. The conversation acts as a "sneak peek" into Abella's book Lunchtime with Demons, which examines references to Satan across a wide range of sources from the Bible to the Satanic Bible. The hosts highlight one of the most persistent misunderstandings: the assumption that ...
Season One (Ep20) This week's episode of Lunch Time with Demons we are discussing fear and how that impacts people working with the infernal divine. Abella shares a recent interaction with King Asmodeus, who prompted her to address a pattern he noticed: many of his practitioners have been ignoring him. After Abella made a TikTok video asking why people were avoiding his call, it unexpectedly gained traction, re...
Season One (Ep19) This week's episode Lunch Time with Demons explores the importance of self-care, intuition, and slowing down within spiritual practice especially when life becomes overwhelming. Ryan reflects on having to host alone due to Bella's illness, and how the situation became a lesson in listening to the body, honoring personal limits, and working with the Divine through flow rather than force. He emp...
In this week's episode Abella gives us a card pull for the week. we explore a theme that many of us overlook: how we spend our energy. The cards asked us to take an honest look at where our focus is going, and whether those places are actually aligned with our inner peace and long-term goals.
This episode is a reminder that energy is not unlimited. When we invest in people, projects, and emotions that don't support our growth, we ...
Season One (Ep18) This week we dive deep into the tension between traditionalism and modernization in religion and the occult. We discuss how spiritual evolution often clashes with conservative mindsets, both in mainstream faiths and within alternative spiritual communities. We critique the growing dogmatism seen online, where practitioners police each other's beliefs, mirroring the same authoritarian tendencie...
Season one (Ep17) This week's episode delves into Halloween's historical, occult, and societal origins rooted in the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain. We explore how the modern, commercialized holiday began as a sacred time when the veil between the physical and spiritual worlds was believed to be at its thinnest. From this belief enduring traditions emerged: wearing costumes to hide from wandering spirits, l...
Season one (Ep16) We discuss control, prompted by Abella's personal experience recovering from surgery and feeling physically limited. We reflect on how control or the lack thereof affects not only external circumstances but also emotional regulation, accountability, and the ability to adapt when life shifts unexpectedly. The discussion reveals how easily control can dominate one's mindset, shaping reactions an...
In this episode Ryan walks you through a meditation with Satan to guide you find something you have lost in your journey it is filled ambient sounds to help our listeners fully immerse within the meditation.
Season one (Ep15) This week we have a brief chat after Abella's surgery as part update and talk about her team of the infernal divine that showed up to support her in this time of needed support for the surgery. The game that the surgeon was speaking to Bella about is "Cult of the Lamb". Thank you for joining Abella and...
Season one (Ep14) This episode we dive into the Christian idea of Hell from a left-hand path perspective, tracing its evolution from borrowed mythologies to a tool of spiritual intimidation. We discuss how fear of damnation became embedded in culture and personal identity, shaping how people relate to spirit, sin, and self. Instead of viewing Hell as a literal realm of torment, we examine its symbolic role and how it was constructe...
In this episode, we explore the strange friendship between self-doubt and imagination, how the same mind that dreams of infinite worlds can also convince us we're unworthy of them. I talk about what happens when our creativity meets our clairs and why that tension is sacred, and how to keep creating & meditating even when you don't feel ready.
This one's for the dreamers who question e...
Season one (Ep13) We welcome newcomers into the world of the occult and the left-hand path, framing it as the beginning of the "fool's journey" a step into transformation, shadow work, and personal empowerment. We reflect on our own experiences and the joy of watching beginners approach this path with awe and curiosity. While we often dive into deeper and more advanced topics, we reco...
"I'm not here to give you polished answers. I'm here to be honest about feeling scared, sad, and human; so none of us has to feel alone in it."
Season one (Ep12) What do the words occult and Satan really mean, and how did they become the center of one of America's most bizarre moral panics?
This podcast dives into the history, politics, and culture that created the Satanic Panic of the 1980s and 90s; when daycare workers, musicians, and even military officers were accused of secret Satanic cults, ritual abuse, and conspiracies that never existed.
...Season one (Ep11) This week we dive into the world of the Clair abilities and the different ways intuitive and psychic perception can unfold. We explore clairvoyance, clairaudience, claircognizance, clairalience, clairsentience, and clairtangency, unpacking what each ability means and how it manifests.
Through personal stories and lived experiences, we share how these abilities have entered our own lives, ...
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