January 6, 2025 • 16 mins
On this episode of Pop Palace, we dive deep with the incredible Caitlyn Scarlett! Join us as we explore her experiences at the Roc Nation writing camp, her creative journey with Rubberband Girl Band, and her inspirations and process in creating captivating music. From behind-the-scenes stories to industry insights, Caitlyn shares it all—giving us a closer look at what makes her one of today’s rising talents. Don’t miss this exclusive conversation on Pop Palace!
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(00:00):
Awesome.
Well, I'm Jack.
Um, I'm the host of Pop Palace.
We're a podcast and blog.
We focus on educating people on women andiconic LGBTQ people in the music space.
And so I, um, found you on Instagram alittle bit ago and then I immediately
(00:21):
thought I need to talk to her.
So welcome to the podcast.
Thank you for having me.
I'm so excited.
So, um, if we could start off by justintroducing yourself and telling us a
little bit about how you got into music.
Um, hi, I'm Caitlin and I firstgot into music by Doing sort of
(00:43):
local gigs and stuff as a teenager.
I always loved singing and writing and Istarted kind of playing in my village's
pubs when I was still in secondary schooland then moved to London at 17 and started
working with other people and became asongwriter as well as an artist and a
(01:03):
couple of years ago I also started a band.
called Rubber Band Girl and wejust released our first album.
So I have many plates spinning, all ofthem musical in some way or another.
That's awesome.
Um, did you always want to beboth a performer and a songwriter?
Or was there one that you wantedto focus on more at the beginning?
(01:25):
I think when I was younger, I thinkI would have just imagined myself
being more of a traditional pop star.
Because I was very inspired by, like,Kate Bush and Lady Gaga and I think I
probably imagined myself going, like,the route of Because I was a theatre kid
as well, so I always thought, oh, firstI'll go on, like, Disneyland Disneyland
(01:46):
Disney Channel and then I'll get a recorddeal and then I'll do this and this.
And it just turned out to notbe the path for me at all.
Like, the more I grew up and grewinto myself, I realised that I was
comfortable not having a career.
All the focus on me, and Ireally enjoyed working in a team.
And, um, there are so many differentgenres of music that I want to try
out, that it's too many for oneartist project, because you'd just
(02:07):
be confusing your fans all the time.
Um, so, yeah, I ended up feelinglike I wanted to be 50 50 in the end.
Like, I still have my own artisticvoice and my passion projects, but I
also love being able to, like, play andbe involved in other people's lives.
stuff as well.
Awesome.
How, um, what is the process like makingmusic for yourself versus, um, Rubber
(02:32):
Band Girl and doing it with other people?
Well, I think for, for me, Rubber BandGirl is, feels very me, but there's
a collaborative element in the sensethat I started it and the whole album
was executive produced by John Quamby.
So we collaborate on what we, you know,on the vision and it's not all about
(02:54):
me, although it feels very authentic,the sound feels very authentic to me.
And sometimes I might do, likeunder the name Caitlin Scarlett, I
might do a wide plethora of things.
So one of them could belike, kind of a house banger.
And then another one could be like,I released a Halloween EP for fun.
And.
They all, they all require adifferent brain to do, you know?
(03:18):
I love that.
And I love how versatile your sound is.
Um, I feel like it also goes into youraesthetic, like the way you dress and
your style, is that something that youlike, you wake up, you're like, I'm going
to wear this, I have this outfit, or isit just come naturally where you pick
something here and pick something there?
(03:39):
It's like, I have a lot ofclothes, but I don't shop a lot.
I just.
Never throw anything away.
So I've got amassed a lot ofclothes throughout the years.
And I think every day when I wake up,my job is to just trying to figure
out who I feel like and what characterI can pull out of those clothes.
Cause you know, I sometimes think that theneighbors must See me leave the house on
(04:01):
different days and not really like knowthat they're all me because I might walk
out like dressed like a Teenage boy oneday and then the next day it's like look
like a Victorian witch and then the dayafter that like a Teacher at Hogwarts,
so it's like I didn't my main thing isjust trying to work out How do I feel and
sometimes it starts with gender as well?
Like I might wake up and say likedo I feel more on the scale of like?
(04:23):
Between boy and girl like am Ileaning in which case if it's
like more boy that day Then it'sgonna be a beanie and baggy jeans.
And if it's more girl, thenmaybe I'll put some like tights
on or yeah It's very fluid.
I love that.
That's kind of how I am Yeah, justlike how I'm feeling that day Have
you always, um, felt, not the need,but the want to dress up and have
(04:49):
a style, even like as a child?
Yes, definitely.
My mum knew from the beginning that Iwas like, gonna be a very independent
person, like I always insisted onchoosing things and doing things for
myself, and as soon as I was ableto, You know, dress myself and have a
say over what clothes my mum bought.
(05:09):
I started developing a fashion senseand I think it's been consistent
actually from when I was a kid.
Like I always had boots on.
I always liked to play aroundwith layers and funky prints and
it's just expanded over the years.
That's so cute.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
So let's talk about theRock Nation writing camp.
(05:31):
What was the vibe like?
How did that come together?
Um, for me, it was like a bit of awild ride and out of the blue because
I had never been published or, youknow, I had done well in my own little
space, but I felt like that was amassive jump up to be asked to do that.
(05:53):
writing camp at the time,and it felt really exciting.
It was very topsy turvy as wellbecause um, the studio was rented
kind of permanently for thecamp for about a month or so.
And a lot of the people there were fromLA, but they didn't want to get jet lag.
So us English writers had to come inat like night and write during the
(06:16):
night that we would all be on thesame timeline, which was crazy for me.
Cause I also had a job and I wastrying to like, so I'd come into the
studio at 6 PM and leave at like 4AM and then go home and sleep for
like four hours and then go to work.
And so it was a nuts time.
That's wild.
How, were you there, wereyou doing that for a month?
(06:38):
On and off.
Yeah, and I, it actuallywent on another year as well.
And I think another year on topof that, I'm not sure though.
That's so cool.
Yeah, so there were multiple years ina row, and it kind of, it had that um,
almost like summer camp feeling in a way.
Mm hmm.
Was the vibe more serious, or wasit, Playful or a mix in between?
(07:04):
Probably, yeah, a mix, I would say.
A mix?
I think there's, when you're writingfor an artist as big as Rihanna, you're,
there's a sort of heaviness in the roomof like, everybody wants this to be,
everyone knows it needs to be sick, andit needs to, because the standard is
so high, and I think we all have beeninfluenced by, An artist like that, so
it's like, there was a sort of senseof responsibility, but also a huge air
(07:28):
of fun, and like, we're musicians, andlike, we do rockstar shit sometimes.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Um, so I was looking on yourTikTok a little bit ago.
Oh god.
And I saw that you weredoing some jewelry making.
Is that a hobby of yours?
(07:49):
Um, I'd like for it to bemore, but I did make this ring.
Wait, where's the camera?
Here it is.
So this ring I made, and excuse my nails,they're covered in paper mache right now.
Halloween related activities.
But yeah, this ring is the baselinefrom Fleetwood Mac's The Chain.
So I just, um, had a friend thathas a studio and he, he was like,
(08:12):
do you want to carve some wax?
And I'll, I know a guy who can get themcast in silver, but I've been thinking
recently about making jewellery, um,because I'm obsessed with the, uh,
have you seen, it's like silver clay?
Yes.
You can mould it and then they, when youcook it, it comes out just the silver.
Yes, I want one of the likechunky gems silver rings so bad.
(08:37):
Oh cute Cute I love
So Before you moved to London,were you living in a smaller city?
Yeah, it wasn't even a city I'm from avillage called Bray which is in a town
called Maidenhead Which is in a countycalled Berkshire and it's like an hour
(09:01):
You away from London, but it's different.
I mean, it was much moredifferent when I was growing up.
It's sort of getting suckedinto London now a bit, and the
culture and the vibe has changed.
Growing up, it felt like very greenand small in comparison to London,
like the metropolis that London is.
Um, and it was like, yeah, yeah.
(09:23):
It was nice though, itwas nice growing up there.
It just wasn't, I always knew I wantedto move to London since When you moved
to London, did you find new inspiration?
Did you find yourself,your sound changing at all?
Defo, because I grew up, um, in aplace where it was like, you were
doing indie shit with your guitar andlike battling the bands and stuff.
(09:45):
So I was kind of very much pianoand guitar only at that stage.
And so when I got to London, I suddenlymade friends with all the people
I was at college with and stuff.
And a lot of them were rappers andbeat makers and like introduced
me to the concept of production.
And started working with the firstproducers I'd ever met and stuff and
(10:07):
suddenly I fell in love with electronicmusic and that's something that's
really lasted because like still Ithink one of the things that I am most
known for is doing like EDM in house.
So that was hugely life changing for me.
That's awesome.
Um, speaking of EDM and house,did you, um, how did your collab
(10:29):
with Subtronics come about?
Did they reach out to you?
Yeah, they did.
I wrote that song, and it was just a songthat I'd written, and, I think they heard
it somehow, and it, it came out of theblue sort of, and it, it sounded like
subs version is, is very, you know, subs.
(10:52):
So, Mm-Hmm . When I heard it for the firsttime, I was like wildly different from
the song I wrote at first, but it worked,so yeah, we were like, let's do it.
Do you have a preferenceon like, the type of EDM?
Do you prefer like house orlike deep base or is there,
or, um, it depends on the day.
I think house.
(11:13):
for me is a huge part of my life andI, I have a deep appreciation for house
music and the culture surrounding it.
But for me, I like really heavy stuff.
Like I liked, I like the more kind ofhard hitting electronic, um, stuff.
Bit more like nasty kind of vibes.
I don't know, you know, um, Is there alarge um, like edm culture in london?
(11:38):
I would say so Yeah, i'd say so but Ithink it's a bit like it's a little bit
more tame than somewhere like berlin forexample Okay, I wouldn't even know if
berlin would want to say edm for them.
They'd probably call ittechno, but There's there's a
huge there's a huge overlap.
I think um, but yeah, I mean, butI think overall drum and bass is
king You Especially here in London.
(11:59):
Mm-Hmm.
. Awesome.
So they're all like cousinsof each other, I feel.
Yeah, definitely.
It's like a little family.
Mm-Hmm.
, you've had three sold outheadline London shows.
What do you love most about performinglive and is there a moment from one of
those shows that like stands out to you?
Mm, wow.
(12:20):
I, I think the thing I lovemost about performing live is.
Being able to connect with theaudience, like that's number one.
Just seeing them in the crowd,being able to convey the songs, like
the lyrics and stuff I think standout much more when you're looking
someone in the eye and singing them.
And just generally being able tohear the music coming from the band
(12:43):
behind me and like, it feels likea full realisation of the music.
Um, and uh, one that stands out, I guess.
I think I played a gig once at ServantJazz Quarters, which is a lovely venue
that we have here in London, and Afriend of mine came out and guested.
(13:04):
We had a song together at the time.
And the band played really well.
And I made this top out of, um, red.
No, not red.
It said fragile.
Because my EP at the timewas called The Red Tapes.
So I created a top out of fragile tape.
Ah, cute.
It was really cool but then I startedto sweat and it started to fall off so
(13:24):
I spent like half the gig like tryingnot to release the tits and like holding
my boobs with one hand and my mic withthe other but that one really stood
out because it was great vibes and Ialso um raised a good bit of money for
Alzheimer's uh charity that night as well.
That's awesome.
My heart, yeah.
(13:44):
Um, did you happen to post anypictures in your red tape outfit?
Oh, this is, yeah, this is a fewyears back now, but they exist.
Okay, they're out there.
That's hilarious.
That's awesome.
Um, so I have to ask about your songNightmares being in the BBC drama, Click.
(14:04):
Yeah.
Were you a fan of Skinsbefore this song came out?
Yeah, I was definitely like thepeak, like the core audience for
Skins and my Teenagers did feela little bit like skins as well.
And, um, when the job came up, Ioriginally approached it just as a writer.
So I didn't know that it would turninto like me doing it and it featuring
(14:28):
me in a song doing release at the time.
It was just purely a friend of minewho does music for TV and things
said that they were looking for atheme song for something for BBC.
And then I got sent the beat,did the thing, they liked it,
and went to their offices.
And that, I think that's when I workedout that they were the same people that
(14:50):
made Skins, and I like had this meetingwith everyone, and was shaking hands, and
I realised these people made Skins, and Iwas like, what the hell, this is so cool.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, it was, it was, it wasrandom, but it worked out well,
and the song got released literallyout of demand, which was nice.
Yeah, the advert cameout with it on there.
(15:12):
And yeah, I love that song.
That's so cool.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of peoplehave a reminiscing past of watching
Skins growing up and experiencingthe whole show and everything.
Um, I have one final question.
Um, so lastly, at Pop Palace, we loveasking our guests to curate their own
(15:35):
royal court of musical influences.
So who would be in your court?
Who sits on your throne?
And then Who would be like twoor three people in your court?
Okay, on the throne,
that's so hard.
Oh my gosh.
(15:56):
I, I would just probably just goahead and pop Kate Bush on the throne.
Why, why not?
That's not my style.
She belongs there.
Then you've got like, JoniMitchell, Lily Allen, Lady Gaga,
um, Suzanne Vega, Tori Amos.
(16:17):
How many am I allowed?
As many as you want.
That's awesome.
A lot.
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much for joining me.
I'm so glad to have you on Pot Palace.
I know the listeners aregoing to be so excited.
Thank you for having me.
Awesome.
Well, I'm Jack.
Um, I'm the host of Pop Palace.
We're a podcast and blog.
We focus on educating people on women andiconic LGBTQ people in the music space.
And so I, um, found you on Instagram alittle bit ago and then I immediately
(00:21):
thought I need to talk to her.
So welcome to the podcast.
Thank you for having me.
I'm so excited.
So, um, if we could start off by justintroducing yourself and telling us a
little bit about how you got into music.
Um, hi, I'm Caitlin and I firstgot into music by Doing sort of
(00:43):
local gigs and stuff as a teenager.
I always loved singing and writing and Istarted kind of playing in my village's
pubs when I was still in secondary schooland then moved to London at 17 and started
working with other people and became asongwriter as well as an artist and a
(01:03):
couple of years ago I also started a band.
called Rubber Band Girl and wejust released our first album.
So I have many plates spinning, all ofthem musical in some way or another.
That's awesome.
Um, did you always want to beboth a performer and a songwriter?
Or was there one that you wantedto focus on more at the beginning?
(01:25):
I think when I was younger, I thinkI would have just imagined myself
being more of a traditional pop star.
Because I was very inspired by, like,Kate Bush and Lady Gaga and I think I
probably imagined myself going, like,the route of Because I was a theatre kid
as well, so I always thought, oh, firstI'll go on, like, Disneyland Disneyland
(01:46):
Disney Channel and then I'll get a recorddeal and then I'll do this and this.
And it just turned out to notbe the path for me at all.
Like, the more I grew up and grewinto myself, I realised that I was
comfortable not having a career.
All the focus on me, and Ireally enjoyed working in a team.
And, um, there are so many differentgenres of music that I want to try
out, that it's too many for oneartist project, because you'd just
(02:07):
be confusing your fans all the time.
Um, so, yeah, I ended up feelinglike I wanted to be 50 50 in the end.
Like, I still have my own artisticvoice and my passion projects, but I
also love being able to, like, play andbe involved in other people's lives.
stuff as well.
Awesome.
How, um, what is the process like makingmusic for yourself versus, um, Rubber
(02:32):
Band Girl and doing it with other people?
Well, I think for, for me, Rubber BandGirl is, feels very me, but there's
a collaborative element in the sensethat I started it and the whole album
was executive produced by John Quamby.
So we collaborate on what we, you know,on the vision and it's not all about
(02:54):
me, although it feels very authentic,the sound feels very authentic to me.
And sometimes I might do, likeunder the name Caitlin Scarlett, I
might do a wide plethora of things.
So one of them could belike, kind of a house banger.
And then another one could be like,I released a Halloween EP for fun.
And.
They all, they all require adifferent brain to do, you know?
(03:18):
I love that.
And I love how versatile your sound is.
Um, I feel like it also goes into youraesthetic, like the way you dress and
your style, is that something that youlike, you wake up, you're like, I'm going
to wear this, I have this outfit, or isit just come naturally where you pick
something here and pick something there?
(03:39):
It's like, I have a lot ofclothes, but I don't shop a lot.
I just.
Never throw anything away.
So I've got amassed a lot ofclothes throughout the years.
And I think every day when I wake up,my job is to just trying to figure
out who I feel like and what characterI can pull out of those clothes.
Cause you know, I sometimes think that theneighbors must See me leave the house on
(04:01):
different days and not really like knowthat they're all me because I might walk
out like dressed like a Teenage boy oneday and then the next day it's like look
like a Victorian witch and then the dayafter that like a Teacher at Hogwarts,
so it's like I didn't my main thing isjust trying to work out How do I feel and
sometimes it starts with gender as well?
Like I might wake up and say likedo I feel more on the scale of like?
(04:23):
Between boy and girl like am Ileaning in which case if it's
like more boy that day Then it'sgonna be a beanie and baggy jeans.
And if it's more girl, thenmaybe I'll put some like tights
on or yeah It's very fluid.
I love that.
That's kind of how I am Yeah, justlike how I'm feeling that day Have
you always, um, felt, not the need,but the want to dress up and have
(04:49):
a style, even like as a child?
Yes, definitely.
My mum knew from the beginning that Iwas like, gonna be a very independent
person, like I always insisted onchoosing things and doing things for
myself, and as soon as I was ableto, You know, dress myself and have a
say over what clothes my mum bought.
(05:09):
I started developing a fashion senseand I think it's been consistent
actually from when I was a kid.
Like I always had boots on.
I always liked to play aroundwith layers and funky prints and
it's just expanded over the years.
That's so cute.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
So let's talk about theRock Nation writing camp.
(05:31):
What was the vibe like?
How did that come together?
Um, for me, it was like a bit of awild ride and out of the blue because
I had never been published or, youknow, I had done well in my own little
space, but I felt like that was amassive jump up to be asked to do that.
(05:53):
writing camp at the time,and it felt really exciting.
It was very topsy turvy as wellbecause um, the studio was rented
kind of permanently for thecamp for about a month or so.
And a lot of the people there were fromLA, but they didn't want to get jet lag.
So us English writers had to come inat like night and write during the
(06:16):
night that we would all be on thesame timeline, which was crazy for me.
Cause I also had a job and I wastrying to like, so I'd come into the
studio at 6 PM and leave at like 4AM and then go home and sleep for
like four hours and then go to work.
And so it was a nuts time.
That's wild.
How, were you there, wereyou doing that for a month?
(06:38):
On and off.
Yeah, and I, it actuallywent on another year as well.
And I think another year on topof that, I'm not sure though.
That's so cool.
Yeah, so there were multiple years ina row, and it kind of, it had that um,
almost like summer camp feeling in a way.
Mm hmm.
Was the vibe more serious, or wasit, Playful or a mix in between?
(07:04):
Probably, yeah, a mix, I would say.
A mix?
I think there's, when you're writingfor an artist as big as Rihanna, you're,
there's a sort of heaviness in the roomof like, everybody wants this to be,
everyone knows it needs to be sick, andit needs to, because the standard is
so high, and I think we all have beeninfluenced by, An artist like that, so
it's like, there was a sort of senseof responsibility, but also a huge air
(07:28):
of fun, and like, we're musicians, andlike, we do rockstar shit sometimes.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Um, so I was looking on yourTikTok a little bit ago.
Oh god.
And I saw that you weredoing some jewelry making.
Is that a hobby of yours?
(07:49):
Um, I'd like for it to bemore, but I did make this ring.
Wait, where's the camera?
Here it is.
So this ring I made, and excuse my nails,they're covered in paper mache right now.
Halloween related activities.
But yeah, this ring is the baselinefrom Fleetwood Mac's The Chain.
So I just, um, had a friend thathas a studio and he, he was like,
(08:12):
do you want to carve some wax?
And I'll, I know a guy who can get themcast in silver, but I've been thinking
recently about making jewellery, um,because I'm obsessed with the, uh,
have you seen, it's like silver clay?
Yes.
You can mould it and then they, when youcook it, it comes out just the silver.
Yes, I want one of the likechunky gems silver rings so bad.
(08:37):
Oh cute Cute I love
So Before you moved to London,were you living in a smaller city?
Yeah, it wasn't even a city I'm from avillage called Bray which is in a town
called Maidenhead Which is in a countycalled Berkshire and it's like an hour
(09:01):
You away from London, but it's different.
I mean, it was much moredifferent when I was growing up.
It's sort of getting suckedinto London now a bit, and the
culture and the vibe has changed.
Growing up, it felt like very greenand small in comparison to London,
like the metropolis that London is.
Um, and it was like, yeah, yeah.
(09:23):
It was nice though, itwas nice growing up there.
It just wasn't, I always knew I wantedto move to London since When you moved
to London, did you find new inspiration?
Did you find yourself,your sound changing at all?
Defo, because I grew up, um, in aplace where it was like, you were
doing indie shit with your guitar andlike battling the bands and stuff.
(09:45):
So I was kind of very much pianoand guitar only at that stage.
And so when I got to London, I suddenlymade friends with all the people
I was at college with and stuff.
And a lot of them were rappers andbeat makers and like introduced
me to the concept of production.
And started working with the firstproducers I'd ever met and stuff and
(10:07):
suddenly I fell in love with electronicmusic and that's something that's
really lasted because like still Ithink one of the things that I am most
known for is doing like EDM in house.
So that was hugely life changing for me.
That's awesome.
Um, speaking of EDM and house,did you, um, how did your collab
(10:29):
with Subtronics come about?
Did they reach out to you?
Yeah, they did.
I wrote that song, and it was just a songthat I'd written, and, I think they heard
it somehow, and it, it came out of theblue sort of, and it, it sounded like
subs version is, is very, you know, subs.
(10:52):
So, Mm-Hmm . When I heard it for the firsttime, I was like wildly different from
the song I wrote at first, but it worked,so yeah, we were like, let's do it.
Do you have a preferenceon like, the type of EDM?
Do you prefer like house orlike deep base or is there,
or, um, it depends on the day.
I think house.
(11:13):
for me is a huge part of my life andI, I have a deep appreciation for house
music and the culture surrounding it.
But for me, I like really heavy stuff.
Like I liked, I like the more kind ofhard hitting electronic, um, stuff.
Bit more like nasty kind of vibes.
I don't know, you know, um, Is there alarge um, like edm culture in london?
(11:38):
I would say so Yeah, i'd say so but Ithink it's a bit like it's a little bit
more tame than somewhere like berlin forexample Okay, I wouldn't even know if
berlin would want to say edm for them.
They'd probably call ittechno, but There's there's a
huge there's a huge overlap.
I think um, but yeah, I mean, butI think overall drum and bass is
king You Especially here in London.
(11:59):
Mm-Hmm.
. Awesome.
So they're all like cousinsof each other, I feel.
Yeah, definitely.
It's like a little family.
Mm-Hmm.
, you've had three sold outheadline London shows.
What do you love most about performinglive and is there a moment from one of
those shows that like stands out to you?
Mm, wow.
(12:20):
I, I think the thing I lovemost about performing live is.
Being able to connect with theaudience, like that's number one.
Just seeing them in the crowd,being able to convey the songs, like
the lyrics and stuff I think standout much more when you're looking
someone in the eye and singing them.
And just generally being able tohear the music coming from the band
(12:43):
behind me and like, it feels likea full realisation of the music.
Um, and uh, one that stands out, I guess.
I think I played a gig once at ServantJazz Quarters, which is a lovely venue
that we have here in London, and Afriend of mine came out and guested.
(13:04):
We had a song together at the time.
And the band played really well.
And I made this top out of, um, red.
No, not red.
It said fragile.
Because my EP at the timewas called The Red Tapes.
So I created a top out of fragile tape.
Ah, cute.
It was really cool but then I startedto sweat and it started to fall off so
(13:24):
I spent like half the gig like tryingnot to release the tits and like holding
my boobs with one hand and my mic withthe other but that one really stood
out because it was great vibes and Ialso um raised a good bit of money for
Alzheimer's uh charity that night as well.
That's awesome.
My heart, yeah.
(13:44):
Um, did you happen to post anypictures in your red tape outfit?
Oh, this is, yeah, this is a fewyears back now, but they exist.
Okay, they're out there.
That's hilarious.
That's awesome.
Um, so I have to ask about your songNightmares being in the BBC drama, Click.
(14:04):
Yeah.
Were you a fan of Skinsbefore this song came out?
Yeah, I was definitely like thepeak, like the core audience for
Skins and my Teenagers did feela little bit like skins as well.
And, um, when the job came up, Ioriginally approached it just as a writer.
So I didn't know that it would turninto like me doing it and it featuring
(14:28):
me in a song doing release at the time.
It was just purely a friend of minewho does music for TV and things
said that they were looking for atheme song for something for BBC.
And then I got sent the beat,did the thing, they liked it,
and went to their offices.
And that, I think that's when I workedout that they were the same people that
(14:50):
made Skins, and I like had this meetingwith everyone, and was shaking hands, and
I realised these people made Skins, and Iwas like, what the hell, this is so cool.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, it was, it was, it wasrandom, but it worked out well,
and the song got released literallyout of demand, which was nice.
Yeah, the advert cameout with it on there.
(15:12):
And yeah, I love that song.
That's so cool.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of peoplehave a reminiscing past of watching
Skins growing up and experiencingthe whole show and everything.
Um, I have one final question.
Um, so lastly, at Pop Palace, we loveasking our guests to curate their own
(15:35):
royal court of musical influences.
So who would be in your court?
Who sits on your throne?
And then Who would be like twoor three people in your court?
Okay, on the throne,
that's so hard.
Oh my gosh.
(15:56):
I, I would just probably just goahead and pop Kate Bush on the throne.
Why, why not?
That's not my style.
She belongs there.
Then you've got like, JoniMitchell, Lily Allen, Lady Gaga,
um, Suzanne Vega, Tori Amos.
(16:17):
How many am I allowed?
As many as you want.
That's awesome.
A lot.
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much for joining me.
I'm so glad to have you on Pot Palace.
I know the listeners aregoing to be so excited.
Thank you for having me.
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