February 24, 2025 • 17 mins
Pop Palace Podcast: Precious on Her Musical Journey, Feminism in Pop, and Nigerian-American Influence
On this episode of Pop Palace, we're joined by the incredibly talented Precious, a rising pop artist whose music blends early 2000s influences, Afro-pop energy, and lush harmonies. From teaching herself guitar as a teenager and posting covers on YouTube to fronting a soul band in college, Precious has always been drawn to the magic of music. She shares how the isolation of the pandemic gave her the time and space to fully embrace pop music, leading to her viral success.
Jack and Precious dive into the importance of self-care for artists, the impact of Nigerian heritage on her sound, and the satirical feminist message behind her song Sweet Like. Plus, she reveals her dream collaboration (Beyoncé, of course!) and curates her ultimate "royal court" of musical influences. Tune in for an insightful and fun conversation with one of pop’s most exciting emerging voices!
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This everybody and tell us a littlebit about yourself and how your journey
in music began Hi, um, I'm reallyexcited to be talking with you again.
Um, so yeah, my name is Precious.
Uh, I started my journey with musicwhen I began, uh, learning guitar,
which was, uh, when I was a teenager,uh, I always loved music, but I had
(00:25):
begged my mom at a certain point to.
If I could have a guitar, she'd justlike get me some sort of acoustic guitar.
And so after I'd been beggingfor one for a really long
time, she finally got me one.
And so I started self teaching and Istarted posting covers to YouTube, just
of like popular songs, um, uh, just songcovers and just had a little small, cool
(00:47):
group of people who would tune in everyweek, which made me feel really good
about putting music out into the worldand sort of showcasing myself in that way.
Um, yeah.
And then so from there, uh, In college,I became part of a band where we
performed at different live shows nearcampus, um, doing mostly kind of, uh,
(01:08):
soul songs, soulful songs like AnitaBaker, Erykah Badu, um, and so that gave
me kind of An experience to dip my toeinto live performances and live singing.
Um, yeah, and then I would say, uh, Asfor like how I transitioned into the
pop artist that I am now definitely waskick started by covid Uh, so there was
(01:31):
a lot of quarantining going on and sothat really allowed me to spend so much
time just inside creating and figuringout different sounds and experimenting
with different things and that's whenI started promoting my pop music online
and then That's when I really startedgetting like a lot more attention from
the internet than I ever really hadwith people tuning in for my pop music.
(01:52):
Um, just really beingthere for me as an artist.
And yeah, that's kind of, uh, whatbrought me to where I am today.
Yeah.
Awesome.
I love that.
I love hearing the beginning storiestoo, because everyone's is so different
on how they ended up in music.
Um, when you're starting withacoustic guitars, do you have like
a favorite cover you used to sing?
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Um, I really liked, um, FrankOcean's Thinking About You.
It's just such a catchyone, but also challenges me
vocally in just the right way.
Um, and then it just soundsreally beautiful on guitar.
So I would say that was probably my go to.
Oh, I bet that was amazing.
I would have loved to hear that.
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Yeah, do you have like any likeacoustic kind of covers that
you love to hear people cover?
Um, I love hearing like older pop musicturned into like an acoustic chill song
So i've heard a few renditions of like80s madonna on acoustic guitar, which
I thought was really fun It's cool.
Yeah Okay, so as an artist it'simportant to stay mentally and creatively
(02:59):
energized What forms of self care doyou practice to help yourself grounded
and not overexert your creative energy?
Uh, yeah, definitely some main ones forme would be meditation and mindfulness.
So just kind of being aware and asmany moments as I can be of, you know,
(03:19):
my different senses and my differentthoughts and emotions and sensations
and really just, um, taking a moment toalways taking a moment to breathe and.
life.
I know that sounds like a lot, butlike just taking a moment to breathe
in life and just remember, um,you know, where I am in the world.
Uh, especially when, uh, thingsstart to stress me out that
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really aren't that serious.
Like, you know, if a song isn't goingthe way I want it to, or if someone's
not getting back to me in a certaintimeframe and just like, remember, um,
That just just become mindful again ofthe gratefulness of what I'm doing and
the way I get to live every day and reallyjust bringing my mindset back there.
And then another one that's reallybig for me is actually listening
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to and discovering new music, um,because I've always loved music.
That's what made me do music.
I just really loved listeningto and experiencing music.
So I need to sometimes remindmyself instead of like constantly
creating music and working on musicto remember to listen and consume.
Music as well and drawinspiration from that.
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Definitely.
I love that.
I find myself doing the samething with the new music.
A lot of times I'll get stuckin like the rut of listening to
my old regular, like playlists.
And then I realized I feel so uninspired,but it's because I haven't introduced
anything new into my stream of like.
Yeah, that's definitely even something Istill have to remind myself even recently
(04:50):
is like, okay, stop just listening toyour favorite songs from high school.
Like there's still beautifulthings being made all the time.
Like put new things into your rotation.
Yeah.
So how has your Nigerian American heritageinfluenced your sound and artistry?
I definitely feel like my Nigerianheritage has influenced me.
(05:14):
Really greatly.
And especially, um, in contrast tome being born in America and being
surrounded by those American soundstoo, um, it's, uh, it's definitely.
Influenced me to have a lot of my,to have that sort of upbeat vibe.
Um, especially of course, when I am doingAfro pop, when I am doing Afro beat, or
(05:35):
even when I am just doing pop outsideof that, it's has an, it's like tends
to have an upbeat kind of dancey vibe.
And that's definitely.
Uh, greatly present in Nigerianmusic and especially the ones
that I listened to growing up.
It's very, uh, dancey, uh,definitely makes you want to move.
And so that's definitely seen inthe kind of music that I make.
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Uh, and then of course, like,it has directly influenced the
Afropop songs that I put out.
So I know I put out a lot of differentkind of sounds while they all generally
do have the same kind of vibe.
But, um, I'm always gonna like put outan Afro pop song here and there just
because I do like the Niger I did lovethe Nigerian sound that I grew up around
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and I always want to be able to, um,draw inspiration from that for my music.
Yeah, definitely.
And your music, I really, you canreally feel that in your music.
It's really upbeat and like most ofthe time I play it like either on
the way to class when I'm like in themorning and I need to like brighten
my mood and get like that energy goingor like, you know, before work, cause
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I work in a retail, so I have to bevery like talking and on the point.
And so, yeah, that's myupbeat, I love, I love that.
And, um, I used to work in retail, so I'mlike wondering if Um, I should have been
playing my own music too, like on theway, so I could be prepared for the day.
Yeah, I really do.
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Like, um, I work at the mall and Ihave to deal with people all day,
but it's like in the back of my head.
It makes me feel like, youknow, a little less powerful.
Yeah, I love it.
That's really cool.
So speaking of your songs, your song,sweet, like has such a captivating vibe.
What inspired that song?
Um, yeah, so I feel like it's, uh, nobrainer that I'm a feminist and, uh,
(07:28):
there's just certain, uh, feelingsthat I have in terms of heteronormative
ideas and just being unimpressedwith a lot of the stereotypes.
It's pushed on to women, uh, bysociety, by men, and then, um, you
know, experiencing different men inlife too, who just sort of uphold, um,
(07:50):
certain heteronormative ideals and kindof just being tired of it and wanting
to make a cute little song about itthat's still like, it's not like a
completely just angry song though,but it's, it's fun and satirical.
Um.
And so, yeah, I just, it was just reallycoming from a place of, um, being in think
(08:11):
piece mode, if that even makes sense.
But also like integrating that withme being a pop artist who does have a
cutesy vibe and, um, yeah, it's just, uh,something that I made to be satirical and.
I, I assumed that it would be somethingthat like everyone would be able to
catch the, the way it's not serious.
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Uh, even though I, I would say there'sbeen probably just one or two people
that I've experienced who thoughtthe song, the lyrics of the song
were serious and straightforward.
Yeah.
But yeah, definitely a satirical,cutesy, um, feminist vibe.
Yep.
I, I, you can totally feelthat through the music.
Mm hmm.
And I feel like Not everything has tobe, if it's a serious subject, it doesn't
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have to be a serious, like, hardcore song.
It could still be fun and upbeat.
Yeah, yeah, and I'm really glad to likehave accomplished that with the song
because you can just turn it on likewhen you're working out or on a drive
and it's just not that serious, butit also the messages is like kind of
a more serious matter, but it soundslike anything you could just listen to.
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Yeah, definitely.
So, say you're talking to somebodythat's never heard your music before.
What few words would youuse to describe your.
Sound or you're like overall artistry.
Um, that's in a few words.
I would say that my soundis something that has a very
clear early 2000s influence.
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And, um, uh, what else?
And, and, and uses a lotof harmonies and bridges.
That's kind of how I wouldsimplify it, I guess.
And what, if you coulddescribe your music as.
a color.
What color would you pick?
Um, I know this is probablylike such an obvious answer, but
yeah, I think I would say pink.
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I can't think of anything else.
I love it.
Pink is, yeah, I literally just,you can't see it right now, but
I just dyed my hair pink again.
I'm finally back in my full form.
Yeah.
I need to, I need to dye my hair pink.
Honestly.
It's so fun.
Like ever since I started pop palace,I started with pink hair and then
kept it going and now I can't change.
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Oh, that's cool.
Do you feel like it's something that,um, came with like a new identity
with like starting pop palace for you?
Yeah, almost like, so I originallystarted pop palace kind of like, I go to
music school and I'm over all the likestraight indie boys only liking straight.
musicians and like, yeah, everyoneupholding all like the white men.
(10:44):
And so then I was like, fuck it.
We're going to talk about the women andthe queer people doing even better work.
And then I was like, you know what?
They also like, I don't know.
I grew out my hair kind of as like.
I don't know.
I just want it to be as nonnormal as possible, especially
being in like Oklahoma.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just push the norms a little bit.
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That's really dope that you setout to do that and create those,
uh, amplification of those voices.
That's really cool.
Thank you.
I really appreciate that.
Can you walk us throughyour songwriting process?
Is it like a linear process or isit something that kind of comes
from all over the place and thencreates into like one piece?
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Um, I would say it's probablymore of a linear process.
Cause it kind of usually doesjust go the same way every time.
Uh, so I usually startwith making the music.
So producing the beat, uh, justknowing what kind of beat I want,
what kind of vibe I'm going for.
I use garage band currently.
And, um, then I, after I havethe beat together, then I create
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the melody, which is usually justdone by humming over the beat.
Trying out different humming patterns tosee what's catchy and what sticks for me.
And then I, the last thing Ido is really just fill in the
melody with lyrics based on what.
I feel like the songs theme should beand usually the lyrics part is like
the quickest and easiest part for mebefore that does take the longest.
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But yeah, that's pretty muchmy entire songwriting process
or song creating process.
Have you used otherplatforms besides GarageBand?
This is like a personal curiositybecause I've tried GarageBand and it's
been like Really hard for me, but thenI've tried other programs and it's
been difficult, but in a different way.
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Um, GarageBand is the only one I've used.
So honestly, I'm still on GarageBandbecause I am so used to it and comfortable
with it and not ready for change, whichI'm sure the other ones, like I I'm
actually probably certain the other ones.
Have probably have moreand better to work with.
It might even have an easier interface.
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Um, so I would say garage band definitelyis a learning curve when you're
first starting out and when you'refirst getting to know how to use it.
Um, but I think after you just getover the hump of trying to like.
Identify all the differentaspects of it and what they mean.
It's pretty easy to use for me.
It's pretty easy to use.
And I'm really sticking to itreligiously because it's easy.
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Yeah.
Especially if you already know how to doit, then staying on the same platform is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you prefer writing solo ordo you enjoy collaborating with
other artists and producers?
Um, I really do.
I mean, I hate to say it, but Ireally do prefer writing solo writing.
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Um, but maybe that's because I haven't.
Um, so the last time I had, uh, work withco writers was when I was signed and, um,
that was a pretty wild, long while ago.
So.
And I haven't really since beingindependent again, I haven't done that
since so i'm not sure if maybe now it'sjust a comfortability thing or um Or
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what it is, but I do definitely feellike I just prefer Songwriting alone,
but I would say when it comes to thingslike producing or having other people
produce for me That's something i'mvery open to because also um I know
that I'm not a award winning producer.
I know that there's always more that I canlearn or take from in terms of producing.
So like, that's somethingthat I'm always open to.
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Yeah, definitely.
Um, so kind of speaking ofcollaborators, if you did choose
to have one, and it could beanybody, who would you have in mind?
Um, I I feel like the answer forthis would always be Beyonce.
I feel like that would be, um,definitely the highest of the high
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in terms of, uh, achievements ofwho I'm, who I'm collaborating with.
Uh, so yeah, if that ever happenedfor me, that would be really amazing.
Do you plan on going to Cowboy Carter?
Um, I, I went to Renaissance and,and now Cowboy Carter, and then
I know she's doing Act Three.
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And I'm really trying to budget.
Myself to see, okay, so like, when, whenshe announces act three, are you going to
be able to show up if you also voted this?
I'm, I'm really trying to likejust figure it out, but definitely
either act two or act three, I'mdefinitely going to one of those.
I really want to go, but, and it's nottoo far from me, it's just in Houston,
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but, we'll see how the tickets seem.
Oh yeah, Houston will probablybe a really good show.
I know, right?
But I feel like that mightbe the hardest one to go to.
Yeah.
So iconic.
Yeah.
Okay, so lastly at Pop Palace, We loveasking our guests to create their own
royal court of musical influences.
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Who would be a part of your courtand then who would be on the throne?
Okay.
So, um, royal court.
Um, so this means, uh, does thatmean the main or the top people?
Yeah.
So like one top person andthen like a few people.
Oh, okay.
A little bit underneath them.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
So yeah, definitely atthe top would be Beyonce.
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And then, um, uh, the other people in thecourt would be people like Ariana Grande,
uh, lady Gaga, little Mix, uh, sza.
Uh, let me see, Janet Jackson, definitely,um, Stevie Wonder, and I think that's all
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I can think, I mean, I listen to a lotof music, and I love a lot of artists, I
can honestly probably name them forever,but those are the first ones that come
to mind in terms of like, oh, like, theseare the The big ones who've inspired me.
Definitely.
Did you like Abracadabra?
I did.
I'm really excited because it definitelyseems like we're going back to her roots.
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I'm excited about it.
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much for joining me.
I know our audience is goingto be so excited to listen.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm so thankful for youthinking of me and wanting to.
Interview me, it really means a lot.
Yeah, I was so excited.
And then, I was gonna see, um,
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would it be okay to releaseit on the 24th of February?
Oh yeah, that's fine with me.
Okay, awesome.
Well, thank you so much.
I'll let you know if anythingchanges, but it was great to,
like, meet you on actually talking.
Of course, and thank you.
I hope you have abeautiful rest of your day.
Thank you, buh bye.
This everybody and tell us a littlebit about yourself and how your journey
in music began Hi, um, I'm reallyexcited to be talking with you again.
Um, so yeah, my name is Precious.
Uh, I started my journey with musicwhen I began, uh, learning guitar,
which was, uh, when I was a teenager,uh, I always loved music, but I had
(00:25):
begged my mom at a certain point to.
If I could have a guitar, she'd justlike get me some sort of acoustic guitar.
And so after I'd been beggingfor one for a really long
time, she finally got me one.
And so I started self teaching and Istarted posting covers to YouTube, just
of like popular songs, um, uh, just songcovers and just had a little small, cool
(00:47):
group of people who would tune in everyweek, which made me feel really good
about putting music out into the worldand sort of showcasing myself in that way.
Um, yeah.
And then so from there, uh, In college,I became part of a band where we
performed at different live shows nearcampus, um, doing mostly kind of, uh,
(01:08):
soul songs, soulful songs like AnitaBaker, Erykah Badu, um, and so that gave
me kind of An experience to dip my toeinto live performances and live singing.
Um, yeah, and then I would say, uh, Asfor like how I transitioned into the
pop artist that I am now definitely waskick started by covid Uh, so there was
(01:31):
a lot of quarantining going on and sothat really allowed me to spend so much
time just inside creating and figuringout different sounds and experimenting
with different things and that's whenI started promoting my pop music online
and then That's when I really startedgetting like a lot more attention from
the internet than I ever really hadwith people tuning in for my pop music.
(01:52):
Um, just really beingthere for me as an artist.
And yeah, that's kind of, uh, whatbrought me to where I am today.
Yeah.
Awesome.
I love that.
I love hearing the beginning storiestoo, because everyone's is so different
on how they ended up in music.
Um, when you're starting withacoustic guitars, do you have like
a favorite cover you used to sing?
(02:14):
Um, I really liked, um, FrankOcean's Thinking About You.
It's just such a catchyone, but also challenges me
vocally in just the right way.
Um, and then it just soundsreally beautiful on guitar.
So I would say that was probably my go to.
Oh, I bet that was amazing.
I would have loved to hear that.
(02:34):
Yeah, do you have like any likeacoustic kind of covers that
you love to hear people cover?
Um, I love hearing like older pop musicturned into like an acoustic chill song
So i've heard a few renditions of like80s madonna on acoustic guitar, which
I thought was really fun It's cool.
Yeah Okay, so as an artist it'simportant to stay mentally and creatively
(02:59):
energized What forms of self care doyou practice to help yourself grounded
and not overexert your creative energy?
Uh, yeah, definitely some main ones forme would be meditation and mindfulness.
So just kind of being aware and asmany moments as I can be of, you know,
(03:19):
my different senses and my differentthoughts and emotions and sensations
and really just, um, taking a moment toalways taking a moment to breathe and.
life.
I know that sounds like a lot, butlike just taking a moment to breathe
in life and just remember, um,you know, where I am in the world.
Uh, especially when, uh, thingsstart to stress me out that
(03:42):
really aren't that serious.
Like, you know, if a song isn't goingthe way I want it to, or if someone's
not getting back to me in a certaintimeframe and just like, remember, um,
That just just become mindful again ofthe gratefulness of what I'm doing and
the way I get to live every day and reallyjust bringing my mindset back there.
And then another one that's reallybig for me is actually listening
(04:05):
to and discovering new music, um,because I've always loved music.
That's what made me do music.
I just really loved listeningto and experiencing music.
So I need to sometimes remindmyself instead of like constantly
creating music and working on musicto remember to listen and consume.
Music as well and drawinspiration from that.
(04:26):
Definitely.
I love that.
I find myself doing the samething with the new music.
A lot of times I'll get stuckin like the rut of listening to
my old regular, like playlists.
And then I realized I feel so uninspired,but it's because I haven't introduced
anything new into my stream of like.
Yeah, that's definitely even something Istill have to remind myself even recently
(04:50):
is like, okay, stop just listening toyour favorite songs from high school.
Like there's still beautifulthings being made all the time.
Like put new things into your rotation.
Yeah.
So how has your Nigerian American heritageinfluenced your sound and artistry?
I definitely feel like my Nigerianheritage has influenced me.
(05:14):
Really greatly.
And especially, um, in contrast tome being born in America and being
surrounded by those American soundstoo, um, it's, uh, it's definitely.
Influenced me to have a lot of my,to have that sort of upbeat vibe.
Um, especially of course, when I am doingAfro pop, when I am doing Afro beat, or
(05:35):
even when I am just doing pop outsideof that, it's has an, it's like tends
to have an upbeat kind of dancey vibe.
And that's definitely.
Uh, greatly present in Nigerianmusic and especially the ones
that I listened to growing up.
It's very, uh, dancey, uh,definitely makes you want to move.
And so that's definitely seen inthe kind of music that I make.
(05:56):
Uh, and then of course, like,it has directly influenced the
Afropop songs that I put out.
So I know I put out a lot of differentkind of sounds while they all generally
do have the same kind of vibe.
But, um, I'm always gonna like put outan Afro pop song here and there just
because I do like the Niger I did lovethe Nigerian sound that I grew up around
(06:17):
and I always want to be able to, um,draw inspiration from that for my music.
Yeah, definitely.
And your music, I really, you canreally feel that in your music.
It's really upbeat and like most ofthe time I play it like either on
the way to class when I'm like in themorning and I need to like brighten
my mood and get like that energy goingor like, you know, before work, cause
(06:39):
I work in a retail, so I have to bevery like talking and on the point.
And so, yeah, that's myupbeat, I love, I love that.
And, um, I used to work in retail, so I'mlike wondering if Um, I should have been
playing my own music too, like on theway, so I could be prepared for the day.
Yeah, I really do.
(06:59):
Like, um, I work at the mall and Ihave to deal with people all day,
but it's like in the back of my head.
It makes me feel like, youknow, a little less powerful.
Yeah, I love it.
That's really cool.
So speaking of your songs, your song,sweet, like has such a captivating vibe.
What inspired that song?
Um, yeah, so I feel like it's, uh, nobrainer that I'm a feminist and, uh,
(07:28):
there's just certain, uh, feelingsthat I have in terms of heteronormative
ideas and just being unimpressedwith a lot of the stereotypes.
It's pushed on to women, uh, bysociety, by men, and then, um, you
know, experiencing different men inlife too, who just sort of uphold, um,
(07:50):
certain heteronormative ideals and kindof just being tired of it and wanting
to make a cute little song about itthat's still like, it's not like a
completely just angry song though,but it's, it's fun and satirical.
Um.
And so, yeah, I just, it was just reallycoming from a place of, um, being in think
(08:11):
piece mode, if that even makes sense.
But also like integrating that withme being a pop artist who does have a
cutesy vibe and, um, yeah, it's just, uh,something that I made to be satirical and.
I, I assumed that it would be somethingthat like everyone would be able to
catch the, the way it's not serious.
(08:31):
Uh, even though I, I would say there'sbeen probably just one or two people
that I've experienced who thoughtthe song, the lyrics of the song
were serious and straightforward.
Yeah.
But yeah, definitely a satirical,cutesy, um, feminist vibe.
Yep.
I, I, you can totally feelthat through the music.
Mm hmm.
And I feel like Not everything has tobe, if it's a serious subject, it doesn't
(08:56):
have to be a serious, like, hardcore song.
It could still be fun and upbeat.
Yeah, yeah, and I'm really glad to likehave accomplished that with the song
because you can just turn it on likewhen you're working out or on a drive
and it's just not that serious, butit also the messages is like kind of
a more serious matter, but it soundslike anything you could just listen to.
(09:18):
Yeah, definitely.
So, say you're talking to somebodythat's never heard your music before.
What few words would youuse to describe your.
Sound or you're like overall artistry.
Um, that's in a few words.
I would say that my soundis something that has a very
clear early 2000s influence.
(09:41):
And, um, uh, what else?
And, and, and uses a lotof harmonies and bridges.
That's kind of how I wouldsimplify it, I guess.
And what, if you coulddescribe your music as.
a color.
What color would you pick?
Um, I know this is probablylike such an obvious answer, but
yeah, I think I would say pink.
(10:03):
I can't think of anything else.
I love it.
Pink is, yeah, I literally just,you can't see it right now, but
I just dyed my hair pink again.
I'm finally back in my full form.
Yeah.
I need to, I need to dye my hair pink.
Honestly.
It's so fun.
Like ever since I started pop palace,I started with pink hair and then
kept it going and now I can't change.
(10:23):
Oh, that's cool.
Do you feel like it's something that,um, came with like a new identity
with like starting pop palace for you?
Yeah, almost like, so I originallystarted pop palace kind of like, I go to
music school and I'm over all the likestraight indie boys only liking straight.
musicians and like, yeah, everyoneupholding all like the white men.
(10:44):
And so then I was like, fuck it.
We're going to talk about the women andthe queer people doing even better work.
And then I was like, you know what?
They also like, I don't know.
I grew out my hair kind of as like.
I don't know.
I just want it to be as nonnormal as possible, especially
being in like Oklahoma.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just push the norms a little bit.
(11:06):
That's really dope that you setout to do that and create those,
uh, amplification of those voices.
That's really cool.
Thank you.
I really appreciate that.
Can you walk us throughyour songwriting process?
Is it like a linear process or isit something that kind of comes
from all over the place and thencreates into like one piece?
(11:27):
Um, I would say it's probablymore of a linear process.
Cause it kind of usually doesjust go the same way every time.
Uh, so I usually startwith making the music.
So producing the beat, uh, justknowing what kind of beat I want,
what kind of vibe I'm going for.
I use garage band currently.
And, um, then I, after I havethe beat together, then I create
(11:50):
the melody, which is usually justdone by humming over the beat.
Trying out different humming patterns tosee what's catchy and what sticks for me.
And then I, the last thing Ido is really just fill in the
melody with lyrics based on what.
I feel like the songs theme should beand usually the lyrics part is like
the quickest and easiest part for mebefore that does take the longest.
(12:12):
But yeah, that's pretty muchmy entire songwriting process
or song creating process.
Have you used otherplatforms besides GarageBand?
This is like a personal curiositybecause I've tried GarageBand and it's
been like Really hard for me, but thenI've tried other programs and it's
been difficult, but in a different way.
(12:33):
Um, GarageBand is the only one I've used.
So honestly, I'm still on GarageBandbecause I am so used to it and comfortable
with it and not ready for change, whichI'm sure the other ones, like I I'm
actually probably certain the other ones.
Have probably have moreand better to work with.
It might even have an easier interface.
(12:54):
Um, so I would say garage band definitelyis a learning curve when you're
first starting out and when you'refirst getting to know how to use it.
Um, but I think after you just getover the hump of trying to like.
Identify all the differentaspects of it and what they mean.
It's pretty easy to use for me.
It's pretty easy to use.
And I'm really sticking to itreligiously because it's easy.
(13:16):
Yeah.
Especially if you already know how to doit, then staying on the same platform is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you prefer writing solo ordo you enjoy collaborating with
other artists and producers?
Um, I really do.
I mean, I hate to say it, but Ireally do prefer writing solo writing.
(13:38):
Um, but maybe that's because I haven't.
Um, so the last time I had, uh, work withco writers was when I was signed and, um,
that was a pretty wild, long while ago.
So.
And I haven't really since beingindependent again, I haven't done that
since so i'm not sure if maybe now it'sjust a comfortability thing or um Or
(14:01):
what it is, but I do definitely feellike I just prefer Songwriting alone,
but I would say when it comes to thingslike producing or having other people
produce for me That's something i'mvery open to because also um I know
that I'm not a award winning producer.
I know that there's always more that I canlearn or take from in terms of producing.
So like, that's somethingthat I'm always open to.
(14:23):
Yeah, definitely.
Um, so kind of speaking ofcollaborators, if you did choose
to have one, and it could beanybody, who would you have in mind?
Um, I I feel like the answer forthis would always be Beyonce.
I feel like that would be, um,definitely the highest of the high
(14:45):
in terms of, uh, achievements ofwho I'm, who I'm collaborating with.
Uh, so yeah, if that ever happenedfor me, that would be really amazing.
Do you plan on going to Cowboy Carter?
Um, I, I went to Renaissance and,and now Cowboy Carter, and then
I know she's doing Act Three.
(15:05):
And I'm really trying to budget.
Myself to see, okay, so like, when, whenshe announces act three, are you going to
be able to show up if you also voted this?
I'm, I'm really trying to likejust figure it out, but definitely
either act two or act three, I'mdefinitely going to one of those.
I really want to go, but, and it's nottoo far from me, it's just in Houston,
(15:28):
but, we'll see how the tickets seem.
Oh yeah, Houston will probablybe a really good show.
I know, right?
But I feel like that mightbe the hardest one to go to.
Yeah.
So iconic.
Yeah.
Okay, so lastly at Pop Palace, We loveasking our guests to create their own
royal court of musical influences.
(15:49):
Who would be a part of your courtand then who would be on the throne?
Okay.
So, um, royal court.
Um, so this means, uh, does thatmean the main or the top people?
Yeah.
So like one top person andthen like a few people.
Oh, okay.
A little bit underneath them.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
So yeah, definitely atthe top would be Beyonce.
(16:11):
And then, um, uh, the other people in thecourt would be people like Ariana Grande,
uh, lady Gaga, little Mix, uh, sza.
Uh, let me see, Janet Jackson, definitely,um, Stevie Wonder, and I think that's all
(16:33):
I can think, I mean, I listen to a lotof music, and I love a lot of artists, I
can honestly probably name them forever,but those are the first ones that come
to mind in terms of like, oh, like, theseare the The big ones who've inspired me.
Definitely.
Did you like Abracadabra?
I did.
I'm really excited because it definitelyseems like we're going back to her roots.
(16:55):
I'm excited about it.
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much for joining me.
I know our audience is goingto be so excited to listen.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm so thankful for youthinking of me and wanting to.
Interview me, it really means a lot.
Yeah, I was so excited.
And then, I was gonna see, um,
(17:18):
would it be okay to releaseit on the 24th of February?
Oh yeah, that's fine with me.
Okay, awesome.
Well, thank you so much.
I'll let you know if anythingchanges, but it was great to,
like, meet you on actually talking.
Of course, and thank you.
I hope you have abeautiful rest of your day.
Thank you, buh bye.
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