May 27, 2024 • 50 mins
Join Russ and Lindz on this episode of Unfiltered Union where they dive into everything from the crazy housing market and the struggles young folks face today, to deep chats about mental health and some pretty wild ideas about what to do for their funerals. They also get into a heated debate over Taylor Swift's Florida song, share funny gator stories, and tackle the pros and cons of renting vs. buying a home. Plus, hear about Russ’s amusing sunburn remedies and their quirky thoughts on surviving Florida's heat. It's a mix of serious talk, laughs, and a bit of everything in between. Don't miss it!
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
The Unfiltered Union Podcast.
SPEAKER_04 (00:06):
So normally when we podcast, we have guests on and
we wear clothes that look alittle more presentable, but
today it's all about comfort.
SPEAKER_02 (00:15):
Well, I haven't even taken a shower yet today, so.
SPEAKER_04 (00:17):
Sexy.
So I'm Linz.
SPEAKER_02 (00:21):
And I'm Russ.
Florida is hot.
So showers in the morning is awaste of time.
SPEAKER_04 (00:27):
Well, one of the things that you did recently
that I have to give you yourflowers on is the shower ice
cream idea.
SPEAKER_02 (00:34):
Yeah, you got to do that.
What do you mean?
I mean, so Florida is hot.
Everybody knows this, but...
The water, like our tap water,is fucking hot too.
Okay.
So there's no way to cool off inFlorida.
(00:54):
Like you can't turn it to coldand it actually turns cold for
us.
SPEAKER_04 (00:58):
Well, to an extent,
SPEAKER_02 (00:59):
right?
It's more like lukewarm, butit's still 90% of the time it's
not refreshing.
So my idea was to bring an icecream in and cool off.
UNKNOWN (01:09):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (01:10):
While I take a shower.
SPEAKER_04 (01:12):
You're just so productive in your shower.
SPEAKER_02 (01:14):
Because 90% of the time when I get out of the
shower, I am already sweating.
There is a meme out there thatsaid, what it's like to live in
Florida is you go take a hotshower, then you get out and put
your clothes on without dryingoff.
That is 100% true.
SPEAKER_04 (01:30):
I hundred.
SPEAKER_02 (01:31):
I hundred.
SPEAKER_04 (01:31):
Yeah, I feel like we've been doing a lot of comfy
clothes and comfiness over thepast past, what, week and a
half, almost two weeks.
So, kiddo was sick.
SPEAKER_02 (01:46):
Yeah, for, what, eight days?
SPEAKER_04 (01:49):
She had a fever for eight days.
SPEAKER_02 (01:53):
The old walking pee pneumonia.
SPEAKER_04 (01:55):
It was crazy.
So, I don't think we've gottenout of the comfy clothes just
yet.
SPEAKER_02 (01:59):
No, and I'm still, I think that's part of the reason
why I haven't taken a showeryet, too, because I haven't
really been used to takingshowers.
SPEAKER_04 (02:06):
Regularly?
SPEAKER_02 (02:06):
Regular showers.
That
SPEAKER_04 (02:07):
sounds horrible.
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Yeah, it's, this house is horrible.
Well, I
SPEAKER_04 (02:11):
mean, we were in survival mode is what it felt
like.
I'm
SPEAKER_02 (02:15):
definitely still recovering.
SPEAKER_04 (02:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:17):
Still very tired.
SPEAKER_04 (02:18):
Yeah.
So is kiddo.
She's still recovering, butshe's she's doing well.
SPEAKER_02 (02:23):
Yes.
Thankfully, we're keeping ouractivity levels to a minimum,
though, just because pneumoniamesses with your lungs and we
don't want to overdo it.
Plus, you don't want to go out.
SPEAKER_04 (02:36):
A little bit of latency there, but it's getting
hot in
SPEAKER_02 (02:40):
Florida.
Yeah, this year is supposed tobe a very wet one.
SPEAKER_04 (02:44):
Wet one?
Moist.
I hadn't heard that.
I heard it was supposed to behot again, meaning like the Gulf
is going to be in the 90s again.
SPEAKER_02 (02:50):
Well, we're getting, what is it called, El Nino?
SPEAKER_04 (02:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:53):
What does
SPEAKER_04 (02:53):
El Nino mean?
SPEAKER_02 (02:56):
The Nino.
SPEAKER_04 (02:59):
i don't know what it means apparently i was just
curious if you did um i think ithas something
SPEAKER_02 (03:06):
why would you ask me if you don't know what it means
SPEAKER_04 (03:09):
i thought i
SPEAKER_02 (03:10):
thought i was gonna learn something today i
SPEAKER_04 (03:15):
was curious if you had looked it up after hearing
that it was gonna be el nino umbut i think it has something to
do with the water bulge like itlike bulges on the earth at
certain points and it makes morewell i I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (03:30):
So it's not, the earth isn't perfectly round.
It's like an oval.
SPEAKER_04 (03:35):
No, the earth is, but the water moves like based
upon pool.
Oh, I don't know.
I could be totally wrong.
We need Dennis Phillips.
Dennis Phillips is centralFlorida's weatherman.
He is
SPEAKER_03 (03:48):
Tampa.
Yeah.
No,
SPEAKER_04 (03:49):
central Florida.
He goes from Orlando to Tampa.
SPEAKER_02 (03:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (03:52):
He covers that area.
Yeah.
We love him.
SPEAKER_02 (03:55):
He likes one of my mean posts.
SPEAKER_04 (03:58):
You felt so.
SPEAKER_02 (03:59):
I did.
I was like, I'm about to befamous and the podcast didn't do
anything.
SPEAKER_04 (04:04):
Oh, stop.
SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
I want to see if we can get him on here one day.
SPEAKER_04 (04:09):
Maybe one day.
But one of the things aboutFlorida is you mentioned that
the water doesn't get too cold,so the ice cream in the shower
is important.
SPEAKER_03 (04:17):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (04:18):
Solar recovery.
Utilizing solar recovery.
SPEAKER_02 (04:22):
I think it's actually called solar recover.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I just want to be clear.
Thank you for mansplaining.
Oh, my God.
That's not what that is.
We're giving advice.
to use solar recover
SPEAKER_04 (04:39):
uh-huh
SPEAKER_02 (04:39):
and you're saying recovery people are going to
type it in like where i can'tfind it i got third degree burns
and i can't one
SPEAKER_04 (04:45):
additional letter calm down
SPEAKER_02 (04:46):
yeah
SPEAKER_04 (04:47):
so the solar recover stuff is comes in a blue bottle
and you can get it on amazon andyou spray it on your skin after
sunburn and you're not supposedto
SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
peel
SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
peel
SPEAKER_04 (04:57):
right like all the bad things of sunburn we love it
i
SPEAKER_02 (05:00):
i am an anti-snake oil person like because i found
this stuff, I can't remember.
I was doing research becausewhen I get sunburned, I get
hell's itch.
SPEAKER_04 (05:11):
You're pale.
SPEAKER_02 (05:12):
Yeah, I am pale.
You're a fair-skinned
SPEAKER_04 (05:14):
person.
SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
I get sunburned pretty easy, and because of
that, I have always tried tofind remedies for that
inevitable time that I do getburned, which is fucking all the
time.
SPEAKER_04 (05:26):
Anytime we go outside.
SPEAKER_02 (05:27):
Anytime we go outside, I get burned.
Well, I looked it up on Redditand stuff, and people were like,
try this solar recover stuff.
It's lotion in a bottle orlotion in liquid form type deal.
And I hate lotion.
That makes me feel grimy.
But anyway, I was like, allright, well, I'm desperate.
I need to try it because it wasso bad.
(05:49):
My back was itching and I can'tscratch that.
So I was constantly on like thecorners of the house and stuff
getting after it.
But I couldn't sleep.
So we use this stuff now andit's amazing.
SPEAKER_04 (06:03):
It works.
And this is not an ad.
We are not getting any sort ofmonetization for talking about
it.
I wish we were.
Right?
But we really enjoy that stuff.
I like it.
It works.
SPEAKER_02 (06:13):
Yeah, I like it a lot.
SPEAKER_04 (06:14):
One of the things you just said, though, is that
you don't like lotion.
This should be a quote.
White people say, I don't likelotion.
SPEAKER_02 (06:22):
I don't.
It's the worst feeling in theworld.
It's
SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
not.
I don't know
SPEAKER_02 (06:28):
how.
So you take a shower, you getout of the shower, and you
immediately put lotion on.
Head to toe.
I just got in the shower to washoff all the muck.
Okay?
I'm not trying to get out of theshower and put more muck on.
SPEAKER_04 (06:40):
Right, but everything in the shower is
drying of your skin.
SPEAKER_02 (06:44):
Keep it dry, baby.
But we're in Florida, so youwalk out of the shower and
nothing's dry.
I
SPEAKER_04 (06:53):
get it.
There is high humidity inFlorida, but it still can dry
out your skin, all the thingsthat you're using in the shower.
So to me, it feels good tomoisturize when you get out.
But also use Solo Recover.
SPEAKER_02 (07:05):
I can't.
I will use Solo Recover becausethat actually does not feel like
lotion.
It's more of like a spray.
It's very fine mist.
And you spray it on.
The only thing that I would wishthey'd do is change the bottle
up a little bit.
SPEAKER_04 (07:18):
Oh, right.
Because when you tilt the bottleand not spray, right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:23):
Yeah.
Because I mean, you getsunburned everywhere.
So if you're trying to sprayyourself on the back, you might
tip it wrong.
SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:31):
And you're not getting any and you get
frustrated and then you got toask somebody.
And if you're not around, I gotto ask our kiddo and she's just,
SPEAKER_04 (07:39):
she's short
SPEAKER_02 (07:41):
for now.
And it smells good.
And it's just spraying iteverywhere.
Like that shit's expensive, man.
SPEAKER_04 (07:47):
But it's good.
It's good.
Along the lines of Florida,there is a new song out all
about Florida.
Who?
Taylor Swift.
Tay-Tay made a song, and itliterally is the Florida song, I
think is
SPEAKER_02 (08:02):
what it's titled.
I never heard it.
SPEAKER_04 (08:04):
We're going to listen to it, and I want your
real-time reaction.
And we're back.
SPEAKER_02 (08:12):
What did I just listen to?
SPEAKER_04 (08:15):
okay so that's your reaction i
SPEAKER_02 (08:18):
mean i don't know it's okay
SPEAKER_04 (08:24):
i mean a lot of people seem like they were
really upset by that song forthe way that she portrayed
florida and she mentions youknow smells like weed and little
babies and meaning like lotionsuntan lotion sunscreen is that
what that means yeah like beachbum the baby member
SPEAKER_02 (08:44):
oh i mean that's not a bad smell the weed is yeah
SPEAKER_04 (08:49):
i don't like the weed smell but um so they were
saying you know the idea thatshe's you know portraying
florida this way and theswifties all came to her rescue
and said it was when she gotbroken up with she was actually
in florida so maybe that's whyum but oh let's say it
SPEAKER_02 (09:07):
it's not i don't think it's talking that negative
about florida i
SPEAKER_04 (09:11):
don't think so
SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
either florida's a what is it a hell of a drug or
whatever
SPEAKER_04 (09:15):
I mean,
SPEAKER_02 (09:16):
drugs are addicting.
SPEAKER_04 (09:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (09:19):
So I don't, it seems like she likes it.
I don't know.
I don't see anything negativeother than the weed smell.
SPEAKER_04 (09:27):
Yeah.
I mean, and then Florence andthe machine is on that thing,
that song too.
And her whole thing was almostlike using euphemisms for
Florida life, the swamp andthose kinds of those pieces.
Right.
It's like more of a metaphorthan she is making any comments.
So yeah, I don't, I don't knowthat I totally understand the
outrage.
SPEAKER_02 (09:47):
Other
SPEAKER_04 (09:48):
than that one line.
SPEAKER_02 (09:50):
What, it smells like weed and babies?
Uh-huh.
I mean, it's kind of a weirdline.
SPEAKER_04 (09:54):
To put together.
I
SPEAKER_02 (09:57):
mean, if you're trying to say it smells like
sunscreen, then just say itsmells like sunscreen.
SPEAKER_04 (10:02):
Oh, okay.
You don't like euphemisms andmetaphors?
SPEAKER_02 (10:06):
Smelling like babies sounds creepy as fuck, okay?
SPEAKER_04 (10:09):
Okay, I agree.
But, I mean, a lot of people doequate the smell of sunscreen
with baby smell
SPEAKER_02 (10:19):
I'd equate the smell of sunscreen to the beach
SPEAKER_04 (10:23):
I mean true
SPEAKER_02 (10:24):
yeah I don't know maybe she should have said that
smell of the beach
SPEAKER_04 (10:29):
so with all of the idea of the stuff that she laid
out about Florida right one ofthe things that a lot of people
keep bringing up about Floridais gators the gators are in
mating season right now wow andthey're walking around
SPEAKER_01 (10:45):
Wow.
SPEAKER_04 (10:47):
And everybody keeps playing the Jurassic Park theme
song to gators.
You know that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're making it out to belike gators are everywhere.
And while we have seen our fairshare, I think, while living
here, I don't think that they'rethat oftenly seen.
SPEAKER_02 (11:06):
The only time I have seen one is when I go fishing.
Going to their house, so I wouldexpect to.
SPEAKER_04 (11:14):
Kind of like Kaylee said about the sharks,
SPEAKER_02 (11:16):
right?
Exactly.
If I go bass fishing in a pond,I am extra vigilant and I keep
an eye out.
That's all.
SPEAKER_04 (11:26):
Well, there are other people who post things
like OMG, it's Wix.
He does a lot of theseFloridians versus non-Floridians
and non-Floridians are afraid.
Oh my God.
And to be honest, before wemoved down here, I watched so
many of his videos.
SPEAKER_02 (11:41):
Yeah, we were prepared.
SPEAKER_04 (11:42):
Yeah.
I feel prepared based on what hehad in his videos.
But it was honestly one of myconcerns but I don't think it's
very valid.
SPEAKER_02 (11:52):
People treat a lot of people the vibe I get is pure
terror from people.
About gators.
Like they're a menace.
It's like no they're the sign ofa healthy and thriving
ecosystem.
Yep.
So leave them the hell alone.
Like in our neighborhood peoplewill call animal control or
whatever to come and trap themand that makes me super Yeah,
SPEAKER_04 (12:16):
and I don't know if it's totally true, but a lot of
people say that once you call ona gator, they are killed.
I don't know.
Trapped and killed.
SPEAKER_02 (12:25):
There's huge places where a lot of them get dropped
off, too, though.
SPEAKER_04 (12:29):
Yeah, like Circle B in Lakeland.
SPEAKER_02 (12:31):
Exactly.
There's hundreds and hundreds ofgators there just smashing all
the time, making little gatorbabies.
SPEAKER_04 (12:39):
Right.
Well, I think one of the thingsthat I'm more afraid of about
Florida Florida is the people.
I'm
SPEAKER_02 (12:48):
not.
The people are nuts, man.
SPEAKER_04 (12:50):
Yeah, they're crazy.
But there was a couple here inFlorida that actually taped
lottery ticket numbers togetherand tried to turn it in like
they won.
SPEAKER_02 (13:03):
That's not a bad idea.
SPEAKER_04 (13:04):
Fucking smart, right?
SPEAKER_02 (13:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (13:07):
I laughed so hard.
They got caught.
SPEAKER_02 (13:11):
Obviously, they got
SPEAKER_04 (13:12):
caught.
Fraud, possible jail time, like.
They got cut.
And I was like, oh my God.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
Dang.
SPEAKER_04 (13:19):
How has nobody ever tried that
SPEAKER_02 (13:21):
before?
I'm sure they have.
Yeah.
I think they need to get alittle bit more sophisticated.
SPEAKER_03 (13:27):
What do you mean?
Try
SPEAKER_02 (13:28):
to
SPEAKER_03 (13:28):
like
SPEAKER_02 (13:30):
use fingernail polish and erase the numbers and
then stamp them on with the samelettering instead of cutting and
pasting them together.
SPEAKER_04 (13:38):
Well, I don't know if that's exactly what they did,
but they put the numberstogether.
They taped numbers together.
SPEAKER_02 (13:44):
If they taped them together, just walk yourself to
jail.
SPEAKER_04 (13:49):
Right, right.
I wonder if, this is totally offtopic, well, kind of on topic.
I wonder if AI can predictlottery drawings.
SPEAKER_02 (13:58):
I'm sure you could ask AI for statistics.
Like, what is the most likelynumber?
SPEAKER_04 (14:03):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02 (14:06):
It won't work.
SPEAKER_04 (14:06):
Okay, fine.
SPEAKER_02 (14:07):
I think that, I can't remember.
The chances of winning thelottery are so small, it's not
even really worth playing.
SPEAKER_04 (14:14):
Well, you can can only win if you play though
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
yeah but it doesn't matter how many people play
because it's still what sevennumbers or whatever six numbers
so the odds are always the samebut it's like ridiculously low
SPEAKER_04 (14:30):
interesting
SPEAKER_02 (14:30):
just buy bitcoin and slowly win the lottery
SPEAKER_04 (14:36):
okay yeah play your own game is what you're saying
okay but we all hate being poorright the the economy right now
freaking
SPEAKER_02 (14:44):
sucks yeah don't get me started on that
SPEAKER_04 (14:46):
yeah but I feel like we've really you and I we really
need to be careful how we phrasethis to our kiddo like we we
talk about you know finances andmake jokes about the economy
right now and how the middleclass is being wiped away and we
you know we'll say we're poorhelp me I'm poor kind of like on
bridesmaid
SPEAKER_02 (15:06):
as a joke sometimes we say rightfully so like hey
we're not going to go out to eattonight because that's too
expensive we don't have themoney right now
SPEAKER_04 (15:13):
yeah sorry kiddo we can't have sushi tonight.
SPEAKER_02 (15:15):
That's not the only thing that bugs me about that
either is I worry about her whenshe becomes an adult and she has
to buy her own house.
SPEAKER_04 (15:25):
Right.
The housing market right now, alot of people are saying you
almost need to buy a house foryour kid if you can.
SPEAKER_02 (15:32):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (15:32):
So that way when they do turn 18, they have one.
SPEAKER_02 (15:36):
It's mind-bogglingly ridiculous.
Wages have not gone up foranything but the housing market
It is
SPEAKER_04 (15:46):
crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (15:46):
It's nuts.
Right.
We had a two bedroom house inVirginia,
SPEAKER_04 (15:51):
a two bedroom townhouse,
SPEAKER_02 (15:52):
two bedroom townhouse,
SPEAKER_04 (15:54):
1200 square feet,
SPEAKER_02 (15:55):
one full bath.
That was our starter home.
Now I'm super glad we bought it.
SPEAKER_04 (15:59):
It was a short sale.
SPEAKER_02 (16:01):
So it was, we got a good price.
SPEAKER_04 (16:02):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (16:04):
That same house that we bought back then we bought
for 200,000.
SPEAKER_04 (16:10):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (16:11):
It's now worth $460,000.
That
SPEAKER_04 (16:15):
makes zero sense.
SPEAKER_02 (16:16):
Two bedroom, one full bath.
SPEAKER_04 (16:19):
I don't understand.
I
SPEAKER_02 (16:24):
can't even wrap my head around why that's worth
that much.
SPEAKER_04 (16:28):
The only thing I can think of is because Amazon is
moving into the D.C.
area.
SPEAKER_02 (16:33):
It's still the same house as what we had there.
I know.
It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_04 (16:37):
Right.
The drywall, the...
The lumber, all the things thatmake up that house may not be of
value, but it's a location.
SPEAKER_02 (16:48):
I just don't understand that at all because
you're still pricing out 95% ofthe people that live there.
Like all the teenagers and stuffthat work at your grocery stores
that are bagging groceries rightnow because they're in high
school.
How the hell are they going tobuy anything?
(17:09):
Yep.
My dad bought a house when hewas our age or younger, but, you
know, by himself on a singleincome.
SPEAKER_04 (17:16):
In the early 90s.
SPEAKER_02 (17:17):
In the early 90s on a single income with me as a
kid.
Mm-hmm.
So he's able to do that, butnowadays you would have to buy a
house with a family of 76working to pay for the freaking
mortgage.
SPEAKER_04 (17:33):
Gotcha.
Or have roommates, right?
You would have to have...
People to live with you.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
But even then, it's like, do you really want to go
into that territory where you'resplitting a mortgage with
roommates?
That gets kind of sketchy.
The only way is to rent.
That's not right.
SPEAKER_04 (17:50):
And renting is a hard hole to get out of because
you are constantly putting yourpaycheck towards a cost.
SPEAKER_02 (17:57):
Somebody else's bank.
SPEAKER_04 (17:58):
Right.
A cost that you will neverrecuperate, meaning you're not
going to get equity into yourapartment.
No.
You are never going to gain morethan what you are putting in
SPEAKER_02 (18:08):
nope there's no there's no it's not renting is
not an investment
SPEAKER_04 (18:14):
right
SPEAKER_02 (18:15):
there's some benefits to renting i will admit
like not worrying aboutmaintenance and it's not your
house so if your appliancebreaks you just call somebody
but you don't gain anything outof it it's a money sink it's sad
SPEAKER_04 (18:29):
Well, speaking of things that are sad, you and I
had a discussion about prisonand jail and whose
responsibility it is to takecare of these inmates while they
are incarcerated.
Oh,
SPEAKER_02 (18:43):
yeah.
I remember this conversation.
SPEAKER_04 (18:45):
We put a pause on it because this is a really
interesting topic to thinkabout.
So there are a couple ofspecials on Netflix.
There's a couple of shows outthere like what is it, 60 Days?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, you know, all of thesedifferent shows that give light
(19:07):
to incarceration.
So we started talking aboutwhose responsibility is it if
someone were to be injured andor killed while they were
incarcerated?
Is it the jail's responsibility?
Should the family be able tohold a jail responsible for any
accidents that happen to thosefamily members?
(19:28):
So I...
And we went off onto anothertopic too, but let's start there
first.
So whose responsibility is it toprotect the individuals in the
jail?
SPEAKER_02 (19:42):
The municipality that the person is being held
by.
So
SPEAKER_04 (19:47):
the
SPEAKER_02 (19:48):
county.
Or if you're in a state prisonor a federal prison, whoever it
is, whoever's responsible,whoever's putting you in jail
should be responsible for yoursafety because they strip you of
everything.
SPEAKER_04 (20:00):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (20:00):
You have nothing to protect yourself with.
SPEAKER_04 (20:03):
So not individual deputies or people who were
there at the time should be heldaccountable.
SPEAKER_02 (20:09):
Maybe.
It depends on if they're beingnegligent or whatever.
Like, I don't know if it's aone-on-one fight.
Obviously, it's not a riotbecause it's hard to...
SPEAKER_04 (20:20):
If
SPEAKER_02 (20:20):
it's a freaking riot, it's like, okay, what the
heck am I supposed to do?
I'm one guy.
But if it's a one-on-one fightand there's guards there,
obviously there are 24 hours aday, they should be able to step
in and stop that fight and stopthat thing from getting too
rowdy.
Yeah?
Yeah, I don't know.
(20:41):
I don't know.
It's a weird and difficultsituation to be in because that
stuff can happen like that.
But if you get hurt while you'rebeing held there, how can you
not say it's on them?
SPEAKER_04 (21:03):
Not say that it's on the county or on the deputy.
SPEAKER_02 (21:07):
Which one?
The local government, thegovernment, whoever's holding
you.
SPEAKER_04 (21:11):
Okay.
So my thought process on this,and I've been watching, I like
60 Days In.
I think it's an interestingshow.
Some of the other things thatare on Netflix, I like watching
it.
And one of the things that theyhave pointed out, and whether
this is just for the show tomake it interesting or if it's
real life, right?
(21:31):
They say that they will put, youknow, up to 20 maybe more people
in one block one cell blockright right and there will be
checks by the guards at randomand or certain intervals it's
not that in most cases it's notthat there is a guard that
actually sits in the block so tome even that one guard that one
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person who is there saying thatyou could hold that deputy
responsible i don't think itshould be the specific person
SPEAKER_02 (22:05):
it depends it depends on their action because
there's cameras everywhere trueright so if these two dudes are
throwing down somebody's gettingtheir ass beat and nobody shows
up oh you're done
SPEAKER_04 (22:22):
right but even if somebody that deputy who's on
the block say they're there andthey do try to intervene but
there's other inmates aroundlike it could quickly become
inmates against that one guard.
SPEAKER_02 (22:36):
I understand.
SPEAKER_04 (22:36):
So a lot of times they do wait and they do call
for backup.
That way they aren't the onlyones responding to an incident.
SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
How far is backup away?
It should be a bunch of peoplein that place.
SPEAKER_04 (22:47):
Should be.
Absolutely should
SPEAKER_02 (22:49):
be.
But
SPEAKER_04 (22:50):
a lot of these places are understaffed just
like the rest of the world rightnow.
SPEAKER_02 (22:54):
And how the hell are they understaffed?
SPEAKER_04 (22:56):
Something like that.
Right.
But it's a hard job.
It's not a job that many peoplewant.
It's kind of scary to be honestYou're in there with a bunch of
people who don't want to be inthere.
SPEAKER_02 (23:07):
Well, yeah.
I don't know.
People are in prison for thingsthat doesn't necessarily mean
they're a piece of garbage.
True.
Right?
They were in the wrong place atthe wrong time, right?
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (23:22):
You have white collar crimes versus something a
little more heinous.
SPEAKER_02 (23:25):
Yeah.
But not everybody in there is amurderer.
And say your dad goes in therebecause he...
He saw a girl getting beat up,and he took matters into his own
hands, put the guy in theheadlock or whatever, and the
guy died.
But he's in jail for that now.
(23:46):
Right.
And he gets killed in jail.
You're going to be fuckingpissed.
SPEAKER_04 (23:49):
Well, of course.
SPEAKER_02 (23:51):
So it's on them.
They should have to do somethingfor you.
SPEAKER_04 (23:55):
Define them though, because this is where I think
you and I differ them to me.
Absolutely is right.
Whoever, whoever state County,whatever municipality is holding
that person.
Yes.
I agree with that.
I don't necessarily agree withit being the deputy unless like
you said, for negligence.
SPEAKER_02 (24:13):
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
If it's negligence, like they'relike, if they're caught on
camera, rooting it on orsomething like that, you know
what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (24:21):
Well, Orange is the New Black was a really good show
back in the day.
And one of the episodes, one ofthe women who were incarcerated,
the deputy put his knee on herand held her down and
essentially crushed her.
He should absolutely 100% beheld.
I mean, this is a show,obviously, but
SPEAKER_03 (24:42):
I'm
SPEAKER_04 (24:43):
sure it derives from some truth somewhere.
But something like that,absolutely, that deputy should
be held responsible.
But over Overall, I think sayingthat if a deputy doesn't respond
right away, it depends on thesituation, right?
SPEAKER_02 (24:59):
Yeah, there's a lot of gray area there.
Clearly, if the deputy is beingplaced...
I'm
SPEAKER_04 (25:05):
saying deputy.
I don't know what other term to
SPEAKER_02 (25:07):
use.
Yeah, whoever.
If they're being placed in asuper unsafe situation for
everybody, then yeah, maybe theydo need to wait.
But a lot of that stuff, it'sstill the state, local, county,
federal, It's theirresponsibility to make sure
you're safe because they'reputting you there.
Obviously you, well, notobviously, but the people in
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there most likely did somethingwrong.
And yeah, They still are alive.
They're still humans.
SPEAKER_04 (25:39):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (25:40):
So they, and you're stripping them of everything,
all their stuff, all theirbelongings.
They have no way to protectthemselves.
So it's your job to protectthem.
And I feel the same way.
This is kind of going off on aweird tangent, but if a place
decides to say no firearms,let's just, this is just an
example.
(26:01):
And yeah, An example of this wasthe Colorado shooting at the
movie theater.
I believe they had no weaponsigns.
To me, if you are going to takeaway my right to protect myself,
you have to protect me.
SPEAKER_04 (26:20):
By providing people who are armed.
SPEAKER_02 (26:22):
Yes, correct.
A security guard, securityofficer, something of that
nature.
You should have to protect usbecause you're taking that away
from me.
You're taking the responsibilityof my protection away and you're
not allowing me to do it?
So you need to provide it to me.
SPEAKER_04 (26:40):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (26:41):
So something like this, if it does happen...
somebody can intervene.
Right.
Because if not, we're all justsitting ducks.
Yep.
I feel the same way aboutschools.
Schools should have
SPEAKER_04 (26:55):
SROs.
SPEAKER_02 (26:56):
SROs.
And if a teacher wants to gothrough rigorous training and
mental evaluations and things ofthat nature, why not?
SPEAKER_04 (27:08):
I'm glad you said mental evaluations because that
was the other topic that we kindof got into with the whole idea
of responsibility for jails.
We started talking about theidea of someone who commits a
crime in the jail that they goto versus should there also then
be a mental health jail so to meI think there needs to be a
(27:30):
separation there needs to be aseparation from people who
perform crimes and are mentallyevaluated and found stable right
versus people who have clearmental health Yeah,
SPEAKER_02 (27:48):
you can't really put those people together if they're
hearing things and they hurtsomeone out of something they
heard in their head.
SPEAKER_04 (27:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (28:00):
Uh, that's sketchy.
SPEAKER_04 (28:03):
Yeah.
I think there has to be aseparation right now.
The world we live in, there'snot enough emphasis on people
who are struggling with mentalhealth.
SPEAKER_02 (28:13):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (28:13):
And we just lump them in with everybody else and
say, figure it out.
SPEAKER_02 (28:18):
Right.
I know that doesn't do anything.
There's no, so jail is supposedto be a punishment, but that you
come back from, you getreleased.
SPEAKER_04 (28:28):
You're supposed to be rehabilitated.
SPEAKER_02 (28:30):
Yeah.
You're rehabilitated.
When you're released, butsomebody with mental disorders
like that, that make them hear,see things.
It's like, that's not going todo anything.
SPEAKER_04 (28:40):
Right.
Incarceration does nothing.
SPEAKER_02 (28:43):
It might actually make it worse.
SPEAKER_04 (28:45):
Well, again, this is based on the Netflix shows that
I watch, but they do providemedicine for individuals.
SPEAKER_02 (28:53):
That's not enough.
SPEAKER_04 (28:55):
Right.
As we know very clearly,medicine is not the end.
doll be
SPEAKER_02 (29:01):
all.
No, it's a 50.
One of my doctors said, medicineplus therapy, two sides of a
coin.
You need both.
SPEAKER_04 (29:11):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (29:12):
100%.
And you have to use medicine tohelp, but you also use therapy
to teach yourself how to dealand cope.
SPEAKER_04 (29:21):
Right.
And the person, if they do leavethe jail prison, post whatever
their punishment was, this notto say that they're going to
continue being on that medicinewhen they leave.
SPEAKER_02 (29:33):
No, especially if they, I mean, they might not
have a job now because they werein prison, so they don't have
insurance, and it's an effortthat they have to take to go get
medicine.
SPEAKER_04 (29:49):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (29:49):
To go to a doctor, have to get a prescription,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:52):
It's almost like there needs to be two tracks.
There needs to be a track forthe person who is found mentally
stable and committed a crime,okay, go rehab Then you have
another track that, okay, thisperson is found not mentally
stable, needs mental health andmedication.
And they almost get like aprobation officer after they're
released, but it's like a mentalhealth professional and they
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maintain their medicine,maintain their therapy.
SPEAKER_02 (30:16):
Right.
And maybe that mental healthofficer says, did you go to the
doctor today?
No.
All right.
Well, I got to send you back.
SPEAKER_04 (30:24):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (30:25):
You know, I got to, I got to, you have to go back.
You're not being responsible.
You're not, you're not beingresponsible.
treating your life now as youhave been rehabilitated.
Exactly.
You have to take responsibility.
SPEAKER_04 (30:38):
Just like someone who, right, who committed a
crime, was rehabilitated, has aprobation officer, they start
sliding back.
SPEAKER_02 (30:46):
They go back.
SPEAKER_04 (30:47):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (30:48):
That's what that probation officer's for.
And they, I mean, when I went tothe mental hospital, they gave
me a huge to-do list after Ileft there.
Yep.
But, Obviously, I didn't have aprobation officer because it
wasn't jail, but I can see themreflecting that in a mental...
(31:14):
Jail.
I
SPEAKER_04 (31:15):
mean, assuming the person committed a crime, but
they are mentally unstable.
SPEAKER_02 (31:18):
Yes, if you go to jail and you are mentally
unstable and they've determinedit by psychiatric evaluation,
things of that nature, then,yeah, I think that you should
have somebody to hold youaccountable.
And if you aren't doing it...
then you're not showing that youwere rehabilitated and you are
(31:39):
provided, you know, apsychologist, psychiatric help
within the mental health jail.
I don't know.
I think they should do thingslike that because addiction is
another one.
That's a mental disorder too.
SPEAKER_04 (31:56):
What we talked about with the psychedelic episode,
when we were talking about howaddiction is something that
potentially Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (32:21):
The human brain is so complex that sometimes we
need a little help understandingwhat's going on up there.
And it's okay.
That's the other thing.
People need to understand it'sokay.
Go ask for help.
But maybe people that are injail for doing drugs...
(32:43):
They need a little bit more helpvia therapy
SPEAKER_04 (32:48):
than cold turkey and things like that.
Because that makes it worse.
Some of the episodes ofwithdrawal for some of these
people.
SPEAKER_02 (32:54):
They can die.
SPEAKER_04 (32:55):
Yeah.
It's bad.
And you're putting them in therewith people who are not addicted
and they have to bunk with thisperson and go through the
experience of withdrawal withtheir bunk mate.
SPEAKER_02 (33:08):
Yeah.
It's traumatic.
SPEAKER_04 (33:09):
It's crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (33:10):
I was in that hospital and my bunkmate was an
addict.
It was an alcoholic, majoralcoholic.
And he was given benzos while wewere there so that he didn't die
from withdrawal because he wasso far gone.
(33:31):
He would take, they would givehim, obviously they would tailor
it off, but they would give himbenzos.
So his body got that fix and,And slowly weaned him off
instead of saying, all right,you're on your own, bro.
You're in jail now.
You're not getting nothing.
That's messed up, man.
Cause that will kill you.
Withdrawals can kill you.
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It has killed people, especiallyalcohol withdrawals.
SPEAKER_04 (33:55):
I was smiling when you said Benzo, because if we
call our cat that.
SPEAKER_02 (34:00):
His name is Benny.
SPEAKER_04 (34:02):
We call him Benzo.
But yeah.
So I think where I also go withour most recent mental health
discussions that you and i havebeen having is recently within
our neighborhood we experienceda teenage suicide
SPEAKER_03 (34:20):
yeah
SPEAKER_04 (34:21):
um and it impacted a lot of people obviously um
throughout our neighborhood andthis teen was a teen that
actually played soccer with ourkiddo and um so we knew of him i
mean we weren't close obviouslybut we
SPEAKER_02 (34:38):
weren't really friends with him Right.
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (34:47):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (34:58):
I don't know what we can do.
There's just a lack ofresources, I think, towards
this, especially with kids inschools and stuff.
They need a lot more help thanwe did, I think, when we were
younger.
SPEAKER_04 (35:10):
Absolutely.
The world they live in istotally different from even the
world we grew up in.
I mean, we're millennials.
I
SPEAKER_02 (35:17):
mean, they can't turn it off after school like we
could.
We go outside and play.
They have tablets and Facebookand Snapchat.
24 hours a day.
It's so screwed up.
SPEAKER_04 (35:35):
What you said is true.
I think the idea of the twotracks for jail, it almost needs
to be two tracks in school too.
SPEAKER_02 (35:45):
They just need to be made more aware of this stuff.
It's okay.
SPEAKER_04 (35:50):
The parent's responsibility should be to be
able to identify these momentsthat these kids are having where
they're depressed or low oridentify a change in your
child's mental health,
SPEAKER_03 (36:00):
right?
SPEAKER_04 (36:01):
As well as the school needs to be able to
identify to have more resourcesfor when this is identified.
SPEAKER_02 (36:07):
Right, right, right.
And
SPEAKER_04 (36:09):
what to do, how to respond.
And if a child reaches out,that's one thing, but most of
the time people think there's nohelp, right?
Yes.
Most of the time people feelhelpless, hopeless.
And that's what leads to thingslike suicide.
And to me, it's just, there hasto be a way to get A, these kids
(36:33):
kids to know how to reach out,who to reach out to, what
resources are available for howthey're feeling, and then B,
adults to be involved and beable to provide such resources.
SPEAKER_02 (36:49):
Yeah.
I don't know.
The parenting thing bugs me,too.
It's like, how do you not seethings that are happening?
But I guess a lot of people arejust so hands-off.
SPEAKER_04 (37:00):
Well, a lot of
SPEAKER_02 (37:01):
people put the
SPEAKER_04 (37:02):
tablet in front of them.
SPEAKER_02 (37:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (37:03):
I mean, it's sad.
SPEAKER_02 (37:07):
It's no good.
It's no good.
Like I said, this is a youngkid.
And he committed suicide.
SPEAKER_04 (37:15):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (37:17):
That's nuts to me.
SPEAKER_04 (37:19):
A teenager, yeah.
So young.
SPEAKER_02 (37:21):
And I'm talking middle school teenager, not high
school teenager.
SPEAKER_04 (37:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (37:25):
We'll just funnel it down a little bit.
But it's terrifying to me.
SPEAKER_04 (37:31):
Yep.
I wonder if...
he had given some reach out.
Like if he reached out toanybody or if anyone identified
it, you know, like there'salways the what ifs, I guess,
but it just makes you think.
SPEAKER_02 (37:48):
I know.
I know.
But knowing that he was thathopeless to go through with, you
know, that final act is like,Terrible.
It's so sad.
Because it doesn't...
You don't just...
I don't think that's somethingthat happens overnight.
SPEAKER_04 (38:09):
No, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (38:10):
That's trauma over a long period of
SPEAKER_04 (38:28):
time.
SPEAKER_02 (38:36):
is the end and they do something that they can't
come back from and That sucksbecause all of this is
preventable.
That's the thing.
Like there are a lot ofresources, but I don't, I just
feel like these kids don't knowabout them.
(38:57):
Well, especially if they, theirhome life might not be the best.
Right.
Mom, I'm not feeling really feelkind of sad today.
And then it was like, Oh, you'rejust going through something.
It's like, no, no, no, no, no.
You need to take that shitseriously.
SPEAKER_04 (39:09):
Yep.
Not to say that's what happened.
SPEAKER_02 (39:12):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Right.
I'm just saying in general, likepay attention to your daggone
kids.
Yep.
If they call out for help, it'syour job to answer it.
You're their parent.
SPEAKER_04 (39:24):
I mean, I really do hope that there are, you know,
we talked about all of thisresearch that's happening with
psychedelics.
I really do hope that if thereis some clear indication that
this is a cure that it can beused for kids too.
I mean, I know psychedelics is atouchy subject for a lot of
people, but
SPEAKER_02 (39:45):
It's a touchy subject when you're dropping a
magic mushroom that you got offthe street.
If you do it in a medicalenvironment with X dose...
To me, that shouldn't be touchy.
It's just like anything else.
SPEAKER_04 (40:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
It's just like getting an IV.
SPEAKER_04 (40:05):
Well, I really do believe, and I forget which
doctor said this, but I reallydo believe that everything that
we need in order to healourselves of any ailment is on
this planet.
SPEAKER_03 (40:18):
I agree.
I
SPEAKER_04 (40:19):
believe there are plants and herbs and all the
things that we need on thisplanet already.
Yep.
So psychedelics to me soundspromising because they are
naturally occurring.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (40:30):
And if they can reduce down the dose and really
fine tune the dose you get.
So you're not just like, I hopethis one's not too strong, you
know?
Worth looking at, I think.
SPEAKER_04 (40:42):
I agree.
And it was interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (40:45):
None of this is medical advice.
SPEAKER_04 (40:47):
No, God, no.
We're not that smart.
SPEAKER_02 (40:50):
We're not doctors here.
SPEAKER_04 (40:51):
Right.
But it was brought to myattention that it may be against
religion to use psychedelics.
And I'm like, why?
SPEAKER_02 (41:03):
Well, there's, okay.
SPEAKER_04 (41:05):
If we created this in a lab, maybe it could be
considered a, synthetic drug andagainst religion, but it grows
on the earth.
SPEAKER_02 (41:16):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (41:18):
God put it here.
SPEAKER_02 (41:19):
Right.
There's things that I just don'tunderstand why people would want
to hamper themselves if it couldhelp.
Like somebody with major, majordepression tried everything.
SPEAKER_03 (41:35):
You know,
SPEAKER_02 (41:36):
tried therapy, tried Zoloft, whatever,
antidepressants, anything likethat they tried everything and
psychedelics they were like heythis is a new upcoming thing we
want to let you try it and theysay no it's against my religion
come on I'm sorry I respect yourreligion and everything but try
(42:00):
to get better
SPEAKER_04 (42:01):
yeah I mean I think
SPEAKER_02 (42:04):
we're not saying drop acid that's the thing we're
not saying do drugs it's not adrug at that point
SPEAKER_04 (42:11):
I mean, it's
SPEAKER_02 (42:12):
a prescription drug.
SPEAKER_04 (42:14):
Any type of drug or alcohol or whatever, it's all
about gluttony, right?
Gluttony is one of the sevendeadly sins.
Okay, fine.
We can get on that track.
Yeah.
But if you're utilizingsomething that grows naturally,
was put on this earth.
SPEAKER_02 (42:26):
To help you.
SPEAKER_04 (42:28):
Right.
To help you live to seetomorrow.
SPEAKER_02 (42:30):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (42:31):
Then why?
I don't see that being againstreligion.
SPEAKER_02 (42:35):
You're not dropping acid to trip balls and go to
Dragon World and fly around ondragons.
SPEAKER_04 (42:43):
Dragon world.
SPEAKER_02 (42:44):
I don't know, but you're, you're doing it to
hopefully open your mind up andmaybe enhance and remove some
bad neural pathways.
Right.
I don't know how all thisexactly works.
I am not a scientist, but fromwhat I've read and heard, it's,
that's part of it.
SPEAKER_04 (43:02):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It's
SPEAKER_02 (43:03):
like a self discovery journey and it helps
you kind of like
SPEAKER_04 (43:07):
reset your pathways.
SPEAKER_02 (43:08):
Yeah.
Reset your pathways.
And you're like, man, why am idepressed about that that is
dumb look how big everything isyou know things of that nature
but i i respect religion i'm notgonna pretend like i'm super
religious but i just feel as ifyou are that down or depressed
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or that ocd why not give it ashot you know absolutely you're
not doing drugs at that pointright prescriptions are drugs
SPEAKER_04 (43:38):
right
SPEAKER_02 (43:39):
but
SPEAKER_04 (43:39):
and can be used as Yeah,
SPEAKER_02 (43:42):
benzos are one of them.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04 (43:45):
Our poor
SPEAKER_02 (43:45):
cat.
They can actually kill you ifyou withdraw too fast.
Yep.
It's so crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (43:51):
Well, staying on this idea of religion, what do
you want done with you when youdie?
SPEAKER_02 (43:57):
What do I want done?
SPEAKER_04 (43:59):
Yeah.
What do you want done with yourbody that is left on this planet
SPEAKER_02 (44:06):
when
SPEAKER_04 (44:07):
you die?
SPEAKER_02 (44:08):
My shell that is left here.
UNKNOWN (44:10):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02 (44:11):
I want you to rent a boat.
SPEAKER_04 (44:13):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (44:16):
Put my feet in concrete blocks.
SPEAKER_04 (44:19):
Wait, so you're intact?
SPEAKER_02 (44:21):
Yeah, anything else is too expensive.
SPEAKER_04 (44:25):
Okay.
So as is, except your soul hasleft your body.
SPEAKER_02 (44:28):
We just talked to a family acquaintance.
And how much did they say afuneral was?
SPEAKER_04 (44:36):
Oh,
SPEAKER_02 (44:37):
yeah.
It was$25,000,$30,000.
SPEAKER_04 (44:39):
It was up there.
Yeah.
It was high.
Thousands.
Like tens of thousands.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (44:46):
I want you to save that money.
SPEAKER_04 (44:48):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (44:49):
Go to Lowe's.
SPEAKER_04 (44:50):
Assuming that you go first.
SPEAKER_02 (44:52):
I'm going to.
SPEAKER_04 (44:52):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (44:53):
All right.
I want you to go to Lowe's.
Buy two five-gallon buckets.
SPEAKER_04 (44:58):
Some quick cement.
SPEAKER_02 (44:59):
And quick crete.
Pour that shit in the buckets,put my legs in there, and throw
my ass in the Gulf of Mexico.
That's it.
SPEAKER_04 (45:07):
Okay, so I have to weaken at Bernie's you and hold
you up.
He's sleeping.
He's sleeping.
SPEAKER_02 (45:14):
You just go rent a boat.
Nobody's going to go out withyou.
SPEAKER_04 (45:18):
How am I going to get your
SPEAKER_02 (45:19):
body into a boat?
You got a duffel bag full offishing stuff.
I'm going fishing.
SPEAKER_04 (45:25):
And I gotta carry you in a duffel bag.
This is getting way too creepy.
Like, somebody's gonna thinkthat I did it.
That I offed you.
SPEAKER_02 (45:34):
No, the only reason why I'm saying to put my feet in
the concrete is to...
So you sink, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because, you know, I think wewould float.
SPEAKER_04 (45:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (45:40):
That's gross.
SPEAKER_04 (45:41):
Yeah, and somebody would find you.
Oh, my God, he got dumped.
SPEAKER_02 (45:43):
Yeah.
So if you sink me to the bottom,at least, like, I'm part of the
earth now.
The wildlife will start chewingon me and all that stuff.
There'll be nothing left.
Honestly, that's what we shoulddo.
I'm not paying 30 grand.
to get put in a box to be put inthe ground.
Just buy me some$25 Quikrete andsome buckets.
SPEAKER_04 (46:05):
I can't.
My girlfriend...
Is
SPEAKER_02 (46:08):
this appropriate?
SPEAKER_04 (46:11):
One of my friends and we...
I feel like it is a dark topic,right?
But that is kind of the humorbetween me and one of my
girlfriends.
And she said what she wants donewith her is you put her body in
compost.
And you can actually pay to havethis done.
It's thousands of dollars.
(46:31):
See, but why would you pay?
I know, I hear you.
But you become compost.
They keep turning you afteryou're, you know, gone.
That
SPEAKER_02 (46:39):
is so creepy.
SPEAKER_04 (46:40):
You talk about going back to the earth, right?
You're compost.
SPEAKER_02 (46:45):
I just said that's creepy while I just gave you a
murderer playbook.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (46:52):
But then I was watching oh crap, I was watching
some show and they talked abouthow someone sued Mountain Dew
because they found a rat in theMountain Dew, right?
SPEAKER_02 (47:04):
Yeah, but their defense was...
They
SPEAKER_04 (47:06):
won the case.
Mountain Dew won the casebecause their defense was that
rat would have dissolved beforeit ever got to a consumer.
Before it even left the factory,it would have dissolved.
That's
SPEAKER_02 (47:18):
nasty.
SPEAKER_04 (47:18):
So that's what I told my girlfriend that I want.
Just get a bunch of MountainDew.
SPEAKER_02 (47:21):
Dissolve me in Mountain Dew.
Oh.
So what is more morbid my
SPEAKER_04 (47:27):
idea nobody's gonna see me
SPEAKER_02 (47:30):
being turned into you can do that in the bathtub
yeah but I so so that's my thingis like I like the ocean
SPEAKER_04 (47:36):
right but I'm gonna have to get you into a vehicle
into a boat
SPEAKER_02 (47:41):
drive slow don't get pulled over right
SPEAKER_04 (47:45):
into a duffel bag oh my god
SPEAKER_02 (47:49):
I think we gotta cut this whole segment out of this
damn podcast no
SPEAKER_04 (47:53):
way I do wanna end it with this though I found I
read this article.
So Ozempic is a big deal rightnow,
SPEAKER_03 (47:59):
right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the weight loss drug.
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (48:02):
Everybody wants to lose weight, and this is a way
to do it quick.
Ozempic's a big deal.
Well, they're finding that womenwho are using Ozempic,
specifically women who arehigher in age, are becoming more
fertile.
SPEAKER_02 (48:21):
Oh, no.
We're going to have a bunch ofold ladies in the villages
getting pregnant.
Oh,
SPEAKER_04 (48:25):
won't we?
A woman, 53 years old, ended uppregnant because of losemping.
SPEAKER_02 (48:32):
Oh, my God.
I'm not
SPEAKER_04 (48:33):
using it.
I'm not going near it.
If anybody is on it, go away.
SPEAKER_02 (48:37):
Yeah.
If you sniff right, you're goingto get pregnant.
SPEAKER_04 (48:41):
Right?
We're not going to the villages.
No.
Because they might be using it.
I'm not going.
SPEAKER_02 (48:46):
That's terrifying.
SPEAKER_04 (48:47):
Yeah.
53 years old and pregnant.
SPEAKER_02 (48:50):
Yeah.
We had a friend that he was inhis 50s, right?
SPEAKER_04 (48:54):
40s.
SPEAKER_02 (48:54):
40s.
High 40s.
And he had like a five-year-old.
I was like, bro, you're going tobe like 75 when your kid walks
down the Graduation aisle.
Graduation aisle.
SPEAKER_04 (49:05):
But, you know, I honestly feel like you're more.
Stable.
Mature.
Yes, I agree.
At that age and can handle atoddler better.
You have more
SPEAKER_02 (49:16):
patience.
I don't know.
You're seeing grumpy old people.
SPEAKER_04 (49:19):
But I'm talking 40s.
I'm not talking 70s.
SPEAKER_02 (49:22):
Yeah, but he's going to be 70 when his kid walks.
I graduated high school and thenthey got to wheel his dad out.
And he's like, yeah, I can't.
Bye.
Where are we going?
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SPEAKER_04 (00:06):
So normally when we podcast, we have guests on and
we wear clothes that look alittle more presentable, but
today it's all about comfort.
SPEAKER_02 (00:15):
Well, I haven't even taken a shower yet today, so.
SPEAKER_04 (00:17):
Sexy.
So I'm Linz.
SPEAKER_02 (00:21):
And I'm Russ.
Florida is hot.
So showers in the morning is awaste of time.
SPEAKER_04 (00:27):
Well, one of the things that you did recently
that I have to give you yourflowers on is the shower ice
cream idea.
SPEAKER_02 (00:34):
Yeah, you got to do that.
What do you mean?
I mean, so Florida is hot.
Everybody knows this, but...
The water, like our tap water,is fucking hot too.
Okay.
So there's no way to cool off inFlorida.
(00:54):
Like you can't turn it to coldand it actually turns cold for
us.
SPEAKER_04 (00:58):
Well, to an extent,
SPEAKER_02 (00:59):
right?
It's more like lukewarm, butit's still 90% of the time it's
not refreshing.
So my idea was to bring an icecream in and cool off.
UNKNOWN (01:09):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (01:10):
While I take a shower.
SPEAKER_04 (01:12):
You're just so productive in your shower.
SPEAKER_02 (01:14):
Because 90% of the time when I get out of the
shower, I am already sweating.
There is a meme out there thatsaid, what it's like to live in
Florida is you go take a hotshower, then you get out and put
your clothes on without dryingoff.
That is 100% true.
SPEAKER_04 (01:30):
I hundred.
SPEAKER_02 (01:31):
I hundred.
SPEAKER_04 (01:31):
Yeah, I feel like we've been doing a lot of comfy
clothes and comfiness over thepast past, what, week and a
half, almost two weeks.
So, kiddo was sick.
SPEAKER_02 (01:46):
Yeah, for, what, eight days?
SPEAKER_04 (01:49):
She had a fever for eight days.
SPEAKER_02 (01:53):
The old walking pee pneumonia.
SPEAKER_04 (01:55):
It was crazy.
So, I don't think we've gottenout of the comfy clothes just
yet.
SPEAKER_02 (01:59):
No, and I'm still, I think that's part of the reason
why I haven't taken a showeryet, too, because I haven't
really been used to takingshowers.
SPEAKER_04 (02:06):
Regularly?
SPEAKER_02 (02:06):
Regular showers.
That
SPEAKER_04 (02:07):
sounds horrible.
SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Yeah, it's, this house is horrible.
Well, I
SPEAKER_04 (02:11):
mean, we were in survival mode is what it felt
like.
I'm
SPEAKER_02 (02:15):
definitely still recovering.
SPEAKER_04 (02:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (02:17):
Still very tired.
SPEAKER_04 (02:18):
Yeah.
So is kiddo.
She's still recovering, butshe's she's doing well.
SPEAKER_02 (02:23):
Yes.
Thankfully, we're keeping ouractivity levels to a minimum,
though, just because pneumoniamesses with your lungs and we
don't want to overdo it.
Plus, you don't want to go out.
SPEAKER_04 (02:36):
A little bit of latency there, but it's getting
hot in
SPEAKER_02 (02:40):
Florida.
Yeah, this year is supposed tobe a very wet one.
SPEAKER_04 (02:44):
Wet one?
Moist.
I hadn't heard that.
I heard it was supposed to behot again, meaning like the Gulf
is going to be in the 90s again.
SPEAKER_02 (02:50):
Well, we're getting, what is it called, El Nino?
SPEAKER_04 (02:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:53):
What does
SPEAKER_04 (02:53):
El Nino mean?
SPEAKER_02 (02:56):
The Nino.
SPEAKER_04 (02:59):
i don't know what it means apparently i was just
curious if you did um i think ithas something
SPEAKER_02 (03:06):
why would you ask me if you don't know what it means
SPEAKER_04 (03:09):
i thought i
SPEAKER_02 (03:10):
thought i was gonna learn something today i
SPEAKER_04 (03:15):
was curious if you had looked it up after hearing
that it was gonna be el nino umbut i think it has something to
do with the water bulge like itlike bulges on the earth at
certain points and it makes morewell i I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (03:30):
So it's not, the earth isn't perfectly round.
It's like an oval.
SPEAKER_04 (03:35):
No, the earth is, but the water moves like based
upon pool.
Oh, I don't know.
I could be totally wrong.
We need Dennis Phillips.
Dennis Phillips is centralFlorida's weatherman.
He is
SPEAKER_03 (03:48):
Tampa.
Yeah.
No,
SPEAKER_04 (03:49):
central Florida.
He goes from Orlando to Tampa.
SPEAKER_02 (03:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (03:52):
He covers that area.
Yeah.
We love him.
SPEAKER_02 (03:55):
He likes one of my mean posts.
SPEAKER_04 (03:58):
You felt so.
SPEAKER_02 (03:59):
I did.
I was like, I'm about to befamous and the podcast didn't do
anything.
SPEAKER_04 (04:04):
Oh, stop.
SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
I want to see if we can get him on here one day.
SPEAKER_04 (04:09):
Maybe one day.
But one of the things aboutFlorida is you mentioned that
the water doesn't get too cold,so the ice cream in the shower
is important.
SPEAKER_03 (04:17):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (04:18):
Solar recovery.
Utilizing solar recovery.
SPEAKER_02 (04:22):
I think it's actually called solar recover.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I just want to be clear.
Thank you for mansplaining.
Oh, my God.
That's not what that is.
We're giving advice.
to use solar recover
SPEAKER_04 (04:39):
uh-huh
SPEAKER_02 (04:39):
and you're saying recovery people are going to
type it in like where i can'tfind it i got third degree burns
and i can't one
SPEAKER_04 (04:45):
additional letter calm down
SPEAKER_02 (04:46):
yeah
SPEAKER_04 (04:47):
so the solar recover stuff is comes in a blue bottle
and you can get it on amazon andyou spray it on your skin after
sunburn and you're not supposedto
SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
peel
SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
peel
SPEAKER_04 (04:57):
right like all the bad things of sunburn we love it
i
SPEAKER_02 (05:00):
i am an anti-snake oil person like because i found
this stuff, I can't remember.
I was doing research becausewhen I get sunburned, I get
hell's itch.
SPEAKER_04 (05:11):
You're pale.
SPEAKER_02 (05:12):
Yeah, I am pale.
You're a fair-skinned
SPEAKER_04 (05:14):
person.
SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
I get sunburned pretty easy, and because of
that, I have always tried tofind remedies for that
inevitable time that I do getburned, which is fucking all the
time.
SPEAKER_04 (05:26):
Anytime we go outside.
SPEAKER_02 (05:27):
Anytime we go outside, I get burned.
Well, I looked it up on Redditand stuff, and people were like,
try this solar recover stuff.
It's lotion in a bottle orlotion in liquid form type deal.
And I hate lotion.
That makes me feel grimy.
But anyway, I was like, allright, well, I'm desperate.
I need to try it because it wasso bad.
(05:49):
My back was itching and I can'tscratch that.
So I was constantly on like thecorners of the house and stuff
getting after it.
But I couldn't sleep.
So we use this stuff now andit's amazing.
SPEAKER_04 (06:03):
It works.
And this is not an ad.
We are not getting any sort ofmonetization for talking about
it.
I wish we were.
Right?
But we really enjoy that stuff.
I like it.
It works.
SPEAKER_02 (06:13):
Yeah, I like it a lot.
SPEAKER_04 (06:14):
One of the things you just said, though, is that
you don't like lotion.
This should be a quote.
White people say, I don't likelotion.
SPEAKER_02 (06:22):
I don't.
It's the worst feeling in theworld.
It's
SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
not.
I don't know
SPEAKER_02 (06:28):
how.
So you take a shower, you getout of the shower, and you
immediately put lotion on.
Head to toe.
I just got in the shower to washoff all the muck.
Okay?
I'm not trying to get out of theshower and put more muck on.
SPEAKER_04 (06:40):
Right, but everything in the shower is
drying of your skin.
SPEAKER_02 (06:44):
Keep it dry, baby.
But we're in Florida, so youwalk out of the shower and
nothing's dry.
I
SPEAKER_04 (06:53):
get it.
There is high humidity inFlorida, but it still can dry
out your skin, all the thingsthat you're using in the shower.
So to me, it feels good tomoisturize when you get out.
But also use Solo Recover.
SPEAKER_02 (07:05):
I can't.
I will use Solo Recover becausethat actually does not feel like
lotion.
It's more of like a spray.
It's very fine mist.
And you spray it on.
The only thing that I would wishthey'd do is change the bottle
up a little bit.
SPEAKER_04 (07:18):
Oh, right.
Because when you tilt the bottleand not spray, right.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:23):
Yeah.
Because I mean, you getsunburned everywhere.
So if you're trying to sprayyourself on the back, you might
tip it wrong.
SPEAKER_03 (07:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (07:31):
And you're not getting any and you get
frustrated and then you got toask somebody.
And if you're not around, I gotto ask our kiddo and she's just,
SPEAKER_04 (07:39):
she's short
SPEAKER_02 (07:41):
for now.
And it smells good.
And it's just spraying iteverywhere.
Like that shit's expensive, man.
SPEAKER_04 (07:47):
But it's good.
It's good.
Along the lines of Florida,there is a new song out all
about Florida.
Who?
Taylor Swift.
Tay-Tay made a song, and itliterally is the Florida song, I
think is
SPEAKER_02 (08:02):
what it's titled.
I never heard it.
SPEAKER_04 (08:04):
We're going to listen to it, and I want your
real-time reaction.
And we're back.
SPEAKER_02 (08:12):
What did I just listen to?
SPEAKER_04 (08:15):
okay so that's your reaction i
SPEAKER_02 (08:18):
mean i don't know it's okay
SPEAKER_04 (08:24):
i mean a lot of people seem like they were
really upset by that song forthe way that she portrayed
florida and she mentions youknow smells like weed and little
babies and meaning like lotionsuntan lotion sunscreen is that
what that means yeah like beachbum the baby member
SPEAKER_02 (08:44):
oh i mean that's not a bad smell the weed is yeah
SPEAKER_04 (08:49):
i don't like the weed smell but um so they were
saying you know the idea thatshe's you know portraying
florida this way and theswifties all came to her rescue
and said it was when she gotbroken up with she was actually
in florida so maybe that's whyum but oh let's say it
SPEAKER_02 (09:07):
it's not i don't think it's talking that negative
about florida i
SPEAKER_04 (09:11):
don't think so
SPEAKER_02 (09:11):
either florida's a what is it a hell of a drug or
whatever
SPEAKER_04 (09:15):
I mean,
SPEAKER_02 (09:16):
drugs are addicting.
SPEAKER_04 (09:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (09:19):
So I don't, it seems like she likes it.
I don't know.
I don't see anything negativeother than the weed smell.
SPEAKER_04 (09:27):
Yeah.
I mean, and then Florence andthe machine is on that thing,
that song too.
And her whole thing was almostlike using euphemisms for
Florida life, the swamp andthose kinds of those pieces.
Right.
It's like more of a metaphorthan she is making any comments.
So yeah, I don't, I don't knowthat I totally understand the
outrage.
SPEAKER_02 (09:47):
Other
SPEAKER_04 (09:48):
than that one line.
SPEAKER_02 (09:50):
What, it smells like weed and babies?
Uh-huh.
I mean, it's kind of a weirdline.
SPEAKER_04 (09:54):
To put together.
I
SPEAKER_02 (09:57):
mean, if you're trying to say it smells like
sunscreen, then just say itsmells like sunscreen.
SPEAKER_04 (10:02):
Oh, okay.
You don't like euphemisms andmetaphors?
SPEAKER_02 (10:06):
Smelling like babies sounds creepy as fuck, okay?
SPEAKER_04 (10:09):
Okay, I agree.
But, I mean, a lot of people doequate the smell of sunscreen
with baby smell
SPEAKER_02 (10:19):
I'd equate the smell of sunscreen to the beach
SPEAKER_04 (10:23):
I mean true
SPEAKER_02 (10:24):
yeah I don't know maybe she should have said that
smell of the beach
SPEAKER_04 (10:29):
so with all of the idea of the stuff that she laid
out about Florida right one ofthe things that a lot of people
keep bringing up about Floridais gators the gators are in
mating season right now wow andthey're walking around
SPEAKER_01 (10:45):
Wow.
SPEAKER_04 (10:47):
And everybody keeps playing the Jurassic Park theme
song to gators.
You know that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're making it out to belike gators are everywhere.
And while we have seen our fairshare, I think, while living
here, I don't think that they'rethat oftenly seen.
SPEAKER_02 (11:06):
The only time I have seen one is when I go fishing.
Going to their house, so I wouldexpect to.
SPEAKER_04 (11:14):
Kind of like Kaylee said about the sharks,
SPEAKER_02 (11:16):
right?
Exactly.
If I go bass fishing in a pond,I am extra vigilant and I keep
an eye out.
That's all.
SPEAKER_04 (11:26):
Well, there are other people who post things
like OMG, it's Wix.
He does a lot of theseFloridians versus non-Floridians
and non-Floridians are afraid.
Oh my God.
And to be honest, before wemoved down here, I watched so
many of his videos.
SPEAKER_02 (11:41):
Yeah, we were prepared.
SPEAKER_04 (11:42):
Yeah.
I feel prepared based on what hehad in his videos.
But it was honestly one of myconcerns but I don't think it's
very valid.
SPEAKER_02 (11:52):
People treat a lot of people the vibe I get is pure
terror from people.
About gators.
Like they're a menace.
It's like no they're the sign ofa healthy and thriving
ecosystem.
Yep.
So leave them the hell alone.
Like in our neighborhood peoplewill call animal control or
whatever to come and trap themand that makes me super Yeah,
SPEAKER_04 (12:16):
and I don't know if it's totally true, but a lot of
people say that once you call ona gator, they are killed.
I don't know.
Trapped and killed.
SPEAKER_02 (12:25):
There's huge places where a lot of them get dropped
off, too, though.
SPEAKER_04 (12:29):
Yeah, like Circle B in Lakeland.
SPEAKER_02 (12:31):
Exactly.
There's hundreds and hundreds ofgators there just smashing all
the time, making little gatorbabies.
SPEAKER_04 (12:39):
Right.
Well, I think one of the thingsthat I'm more afraid of about
Florida Florida is the people.
I'm
SPEAKER_02 (12:48):
not.
The people are nuts, man.
SPEAKER_04 (12:50):
Yeah, they're crazy.
But there was a couple here inFlorida that actually taped
lottery ticket numbers togetherand tried to turn it in like
they won.
SPEAKER_02 (13:03):
That's not a bad idea.
SPEAKER_04 (13:04):
Fucking smart, right?
SPEAKER_02 (13:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (13:07):
I laughed so hard.
They got caught.
SPEAKER_02 (13:11):
Obviously, they got
SPEAKER_04 (13:12):
caught.
Fraud, possible jail time, like.
They got cut.
And I was like, oh my God.
SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
Dang.
SPEAKER_04 (13:19):
How has nobody ever tried that
SPEAKER_02 (13:21):
before?
I'm sure they have.
Yeah.
I think they need to get alittle bit more sophisticated.
SPEAKER_03 (13:27):
What do you mean?
Try
SPEAKER_02 (13:28):
to
SPEAKER_03 (13:28):
like
SPEAKER_02 (13:30):
use fingernail polish and erase the numbers and
then stamp them on with the samelettering instead of cutting and
pasting them together.
SPEAKER_04 (13:38):
Well, I don't know if that's exactly what they did,
but they put the numberstogether.
They taped numbers together.
SPEAKER_02 (13:44):
If they taped them together, just walk yourself to
jail.
SPEAKER_04 (13:49):
Right, right.
I wonder if, this is totally offtopic, well, kind of on topic.
I wonder if AI can predictlottery drawings.
SPEAKER_02 (13:58):
I'm sure you could ask AI for statistics.
Like, what is the most likelynumber?
SPEAKER_04 (14:03):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02 (14:06):
It won't work.
SPEAKER_04 (14:06):
Okay, fine.
SPEAKER_02 (14:07):
I think that, I can't remember.
The chances of winning thelottery are so small, it's not
even really worth playing.
SPEAKER_04 (14:14):
Well, you can can only win if you play though
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
yeah but it doesn't matter how many people play
because it's still what sevennumbers or whatever six numbers
so the odds are always the samebut it's like ridiculously low
SPEAKER_04 (14:30):
interesting
SPEAKER_02 (14:30):
just buy bitcoin and slowly win the lottery
SPEAKER_04 (14:36):
okay yeah play your own game is what you're saying
okay but we all hate being poorright the the economy right now
freaking
SPEAKER_02 (14:44):
sucks yeah don't get me started on that
SPEAKER_04 (14:46):
yeah but I feel like we've really you and I we really
need to be careful how we phrasethis to our kiddo like we we
talk about you know finances andmake jokes about the economy
right now and how the middleclass is being wiped away and we
you know we'll say we're poorhelp me I'm poor kind of like on
bridesmaid
SPEAKER_02 (15:06):
as a joke sometimes we say rightfully so like hey
we're not going to go out to eattonight because that's too
expensive we don't have themoney right now
SPEAKER_04 (15:13):
yeah sorry kiddo we can't have sushi tonight.
SPEAKER_02 (15:15):
That's not the only thing that bugs me about that
either is I worry about her whenshe becomes an adult and she has
to buy her own house.
SPEAKER_04 (15:25):
Right.
The housing market right now, alot of people are saying you
almost need to buy a house foryour kid if you can.
SPEAKER_02 (15:32):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (15:32):
So that way when they do turn 18, they have one.
SPEAKER_02 (15:36):
It's mind-bogglingly ridiculous.
Wages have not gone up foranything but the housing market
It is
SPEAKER_04 (15:46):
crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (15:46):
It's nuts.
Right.
We had a two bedroom house inVirginia,
SPEAKER_04 (15:51):
a two bedroom townhouse,
SPEAKER_02 (15:52):
two bedroom townhouse,
SPEAKER_04 (15:54):
1200 square feet,
SPEAKER_02 (15:55):
one full bath.
That was our starter home.
Now I'm super glad we bought it.
SPEAKER_04 (15:59):
It was a short sale.
SPEAKER_02 (16:01):
So it was, we got a good price.
SPEAKER_04 (16:02):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (16:04):
That same house that we bought back then we bought
for 200,000.
SPEAKER_04 (16:10):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (16:11):
It's now worth $460,000.
That
SPEAKER_04 (16:15):
makes zero sense.
SPEAKER_02 (16:16):
Two bedroom, one full bath.
SPEAKER_04 (16:19):
I don't understand.
I
SPEAKER_02 (16:24):
can't even wrap my head around why that's worth
that much.
SPEAKER_04 (16:28):
The only thing I can think of is because Amazon is
moving into the D.C.
area.
SPEAKER_02 (16:33):
It's still the same house as what we had there.
I know.
It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_04 (16:37):
Right.
The drywall, the...
The lumber, all the things thatmake up that house may not be of
value, but it's a location.
SPEAKER_02 (16:48):
I just don't understand that at all because
you're still pricing out 95% ofthe people that live there.
Like all the teenagers and stuffthat work at your grocery stores
that are bagging groceries rightnow because they're in high
school.
How the hell are they going tobuy anything?
(17:09):
Yep.
My dad bought a house when hewas our age or younger, but, you
know, by himself on a singleincome.
SPEAKER_04 (17:16):
In the early 90s.
SPEAKER_02 (17:17):
In the early 90s on a single income with me as a
kid.
Mm-hmm.
So he's able to do that, butnowadays you would have to buy a
house with a family of 76working to pay for the freaking
mortgage.
SPEAKER_04 (17:33):
Gotcha.
Or have roommates, right?
You would have to have...
People to live with you.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
But even then, it's like, do you really want to go
into that territory where you'resplitting a mortgage with
roommates?
That gets kind of sketchy.
The only way is to rent.
That's not right.
SPEAKER_04 (17:50):
And renting is a hard hole to get out of because
you are constantly putting yourpaycheck towards a cost.
SPEAKER_02 (17:57):
Somebody else's bank.
SPEAKER_04 (17:58):
Right.
A cost that you will neverrecuperate, meaning you're not
going to get equity into yourapartment.
No.
You are never going to gain morethan what you are putting in
SPEAKER_02 (18:08):
nope there's no there's no it's not renting is
not an investment
SPEAKER_04 (18:14):
right
SPEAKER_02 (18:15):
there's some benefits to renting i will admit
like not worrying aboutmaintenance and it's not your
house so if your appliancebreaks you just call somebody
but you don't gain anything outof it it's a money sink it's sad
SPEAKER_04 (18:29):
Well, speaking of things that are sad, you and I
had a discussion about prisonand jail and whose
responsibility it is to takecare of these inmates while they
are incarcerated.
Oh,
SPEAKER_02 (18:43):
yeah.
I remember this conversation.
SPEAKER_04 (18:45):
We put a pause on it because this is a really
interesting topic to thinkabout.
So there are a couple ofspecials on Netflix.
There's a couple of shows outthere like what is it, 60 Days?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, you know, all of thesedifferent shows that give light
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to incarceration.
So we started talking aboutwhose responsibility is it if
someone were to be injured andor killed while they were
incarcerated?
Is it the jail's responsibility?
Should the family be able tohold a jail responsible for any
accidents that happen to thosefamily members?
(19:28):
So I...
And we went off onto anothertopic too, but let's start there
first.
So whose responsibility is it toprotect the individuals in the
jail?
SPEAKER_02 (19:42):
The municipality that the person is being held
by.
So
SPEAKER_04 (19:47):
the
SPEAKER_02 (19:48):
county.
Or if you're in a state prisonor a federal prison, whoever it
is, whoever's responsible,whoever's putting you in jail
should be responsible for yoursafety because they strip you of
everything.
SPEAKER_04 (20:00):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (20:00):
You have nothing to protect yourself with.
SPEAKER_04 (20:03):
So not individual deputies or people who were
there at the time should be heldaccountable.
SPEAKER_02 (20:09):
Maybe.
It depends on if they're beingnegligent or whatever.
Like, I don't know if it's aone-on-one fight.
Obviously, it's not a riotbecause it's hard to...
SPEAKER_04 (20:20):
If
SPEAKER_02 (20:20):
it's a freaking riot, it's like, okay, what the
heck am I supposed to do?
I'm one guy.
But if it's a one-on-one fightand there's guards there,
obviously there are 24 hours aday, they should be able to step
in and stop that fight and stopthat thing from getting too
rowdy.
Yeah?
Yeah, I don't know.
(20:41):
I don't know.
It's a weird and difficultsituation to be in because that
stuff can happen like that.
But if you get hurt while you'rebeing held there, how can you
not say it's on them?
SPEAKER_04 (21:03):
Not say that it's on the county or on the deputy.
SPEAKER_02 (21:07):
Which one?
The local government, thegovernment, whoever's holding
you.
SPEAKER_04 (21:11):
Okay.
So my thought process on this,and I've been watching, I like
60 Days In.
I think it's an interestingshow.
Some of the other things thatare on Netflix, I like watching
it.
And one of the things that theyhave pointed out, and whether
this is just for the show tomake it interesting or if it's
real life, right?
(21:31):
They say that they will put, youknow, up to 20 maybe more people
in one block one cell blockright right and there will be
checks by the guards at randomand or certain intervals it's
not that in most cases it's notthat there is a guard that
actually sits in the block so tome even that one guard that one
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person who is there saying thatyou could hold that deputy
responsible i don't think itshould be the specific person
SPEAKER_02 (22:05):
it depends it depends on their action because
there's cameras everywhere trueright so if these two dudes are
throwing down somebody's gettingtheir ass beat and nobody shows
up oh you're done
SPEAKER_04 (22:22):
right but even if somebody that deputy who's on
the block say they're there andthey do try to intervene but
there's other inmates aroundlike it could quickly become
inmates against that one guard.
SPEAKER_02 (22:36):
I understand.
SPEAKER_04 (22:36):
So a lot of times they do wait and they do call
for backup.
That way they aren't the onlyones responding to an incident.
SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
How far is backup away?
It should be a bunch of peoplein that place.
SPEAKER_04 (22:47):
Should be.
Absolutely should
SPEAKER_02 (22:49):
be.
But
SPEAKER_04 (22:50):
a lot of these places are understaffed just
like the rest of the world rightnow.
SPEAKER_02 (22:54):
And how the hell are they understaffed?
SPEAKER_04 (22:56):
Something like that.
Right.
But it's a hard job.
It's not a job that many peoplewant.
It's kind of scary to be honestYou're in there with a bunch of
people who don't want to be inthere.
SPEAKER_02 (23:07):
Well, yeah.
I don't know.
People are in prison for thingsthat doesn't necessarily mean
they're a piece of garbage.
True.
Right?
They were in the wrong place atthe wrong time, right?
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (23:22):
You have white collar crimes versus something a
little more heinous.
SPEAKER_02 (23:25):
Yeah.
But not everybody in there is amurderer.
And say your dad goes in therebecause he...
He saw a girl getting beat up,and he took matters into his own
hands, put the guy in theheadlock or whatever, and the
guy died.
But he's in jail for that now.
(23:46):
Right.
And he gets killed in jail.
You're going to be fuckingpissed.
SPEAKER_04 (23:49):
Well, of course.
SPEAKER_02 (23:51):
So it's on them.
They should have to do somethingfor you.
SPEAKER_04 (23:55):
Define them though, because this is where I think
you and I differ them to me.
Absolutely is right.
Whoever, whoever state County,whatever municipality is holding
that person.
Yes.
I agree with that.
I don't necessarily agree withit being the deputy unless like
you said, for negligence.
SPEAKER_02 (24:13):
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
If it's negligence, like they'relike, if they're caught on
camera, rooting it on orsomething like that, you know
what I mean?
SPEAKER_04 (24:21):
Well, Orange is the New Black was a really good show
back in the day.
And one of the episodes, one ofthe women who were incarcerated,
the deputy put his knee on herand held her down and
essentially crushed her.
He should absolutely 100% beheld.
I mean, this is a show,obviously, but
SPEAKER_03 (24:42):
I'm
SPEAKER_04 (24:43):
sure it derives from some truth somewhere.
But something like that,absolutely, that deputy should
be held responsible.
But over Overall, I think sayingthat if a deputy doesn't respond
right away, it depends on thesituation, right?
SPEAKER_02 (24:59):
Yeah, there's a lot of gray area there.
Clearly, if the deputy is beingplaced...
I'm
SPEAKER_04 (25:05):
saying deputy.
I don't know what other term to
SPEAKER_02 (25:07):
use.
Yeah, whoever.
If they're being placed in asuper unsafe situation for
everybody, then yeah, maybe theydo need to wait.
But a lot of that stuff, it'sstill the state, local, county,
federal, It's theirresponsibility to make sure
you're safe because they'reputting you there.
Obviously you, well, notobviously, but the people in
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there most likely did somethingwrong.
And yeah, They still are alive.
They're still humans.
SPEAKER_04 (25:39):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (25:40):
So they, and you're stripping them of everything,
all their stuff, all theirbelongings.
They have no way to protectthemselves.
So it's your job to protectthem.
And I feel the same way.
This is kind of going off on aweird tangent, but if a place
decides to say no firearms,let's just, this is just an
example.
(26:01):
And yeah, An example of this wasthe Colorado shooting at the
movie theater.
I believe they had no weaponsigns.
To me, if you are going to takeaway my right to protect myself,
you have to protect me.
SPEAKER_04 (26:20):
By providing people who are armed.
SPEAKER_02 (26:22):
Yes, correct.
A security guard, securityofficer, something of that
nature.
You should have to protect usbecause you're taking that away
from me.
You're taking the responsibilityof my protection away and you're
not allowing me to do it?
So you need to provide it to me.
SPEAKER_04 (26:40):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (26:41):
So something like this, if it does happen...
somebody can intervene.
Right.
Because if not, we're all justsitting ducks.
Yep.
I feel the same way aboutschools.
Schools should have
SPEAKER_04 (26:55):
SROs.
SPEAKER_02 (26:56):
SROs.
And if a teacher wants to gothrough rigorous training and
mental evaluations and things ofthat nature, why not?
SPEAKER_04 (27:08):
I'm glad you said mental evaluations because that
was the other topic that we kindof got into with the whole idea
of responsibility for jails.
We started talking about theidea of someone who commits a
crime in the jail that they goto versus should there also then
be a mental health jail so to meI think there needs to be a
(27:30):
separation there needs to be aseparation from people who
perform crimes and are mentallyevaluated and found stable right
versus people who have clearmental health Yeah,
SPEAKER_02 (27:48):
you can't really put those people together if they're
hearing things and they hurtsomeone out of something they
heard in their head.
SPEAKER_04 (27:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (28:00):
Uh, that's sketchy.
SPEAKER_04 (28:03):
Yeah.
I think there has to be aseparation right now.
The world we live in, there'snot enough emphasis on people
who are struggling with mentalhealth.
SPEAKER_02 (28:13):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (28:13):
And we just lump them in with everybody else and
say, figure it out.
SPEAKER_02 (28:18):
Right.
I know that doesn't do anything.
There's no, so jail is supposedto be a punishment, but that you
come back from, you getreleased.
SPEAKER_04 (28:28):
You're supposed to be rehabilitated.
SPEAKER_02 (28:30):
Yeah.
You're rehabilitated.
When you're released, butsomebody with mental disorders
like that, that make them hear,see things.
It's like, that's not going todo anything.
SPEAKER_04 (28:40):
Right.
Incarceration does nothing.
SPEAKER_02 (28:43):
It might actually make it worse.
SPEAKER_04 (28:45):
Well, again, this is based on the Netflix shows that
I watch, but they do providemedicine for individuals.
SPEAKER_02 (28:53):
That's not enough.
SPEAKER_04 (28:55):
Right.
As we know very clearly,medicine is not the end.
doll be
SPEAKER_02 (29:01):
all.
No, it's a 50.
One of my doctors said, medicineplus therapy, two sides of a
coin.
You need both.
SPEAKER_04 (29:11):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (29:12):
100%.
And you have to use medicine tohelp, but you also use therapy
to teach yourself how to dealand cope.
SPEAKER_04 (29:21):
Right.
And the person, if they do leavethe jail prison, post whatever
their punishment was, this notto say that they're going to
continue being on that medicinewhen they leave.
SPEAKER_02 (29:33):
No, especially if they, I mean, they might not
have a job now because they werein prison, so they don't have
insurance, and it's an effortthat they have to take to go get
medicine.
SPEAKER_04 (29:49):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (29:49):
To go to a doctor, have to get a prescription,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:52):
It's almost like there needs to be two tracks.
There needs to be a track forthe person who is found mentally
stable and committed a crime,okay, go rehab Then you have
another track that, okay, thisperson is found not mentally
stable, needs mental health andmedication.
And they almost get like aprobation officer after they're
released, but it's like a mentalhealth professional and they
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maintain their medicine,maintain their therapy.
SPEAKER_02 (30:16):
Right.
And maybe that mental healthofficer says, did you go to the
doctor today?
No.
All right.
Well, I got to send you back.
SPEAKER_04 (30:24):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (30:25):
You know, I got to, I got to, you have to go back.
You're not being responsible.
You're not, you're not beingresponsible.
treating your life now as youhave been rehabilitated.
Exactly.
You have to take responsibility.
SPEAKER_04 (30:38):
Just like someone who, right, who committed a
crime, was rehabilitated, has aprobation officer, they start
sliding back.
SPEAKER_02 (30:46):
They go back.
SPEAKER_04 (30:47):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_02 (30:48):
That's what that probation officer's for.
And they, I mean, when I went tothe mental hospital, they gave
me a huge to-do list after Ileft there.
Yep.
But, Obviously, I didn't have aprobation officer because it
wasn't jail, but I can see themreflecting that in a mental...
(31:14):
Jail.
I
SPEAKER_04 (31:15):
mean, assuming the person committed a crime, but
they are mentally unstable.
SPEAKER_02 (31:18):
Yes, if you go to jail and you are mentally
unstable and they've determinedit by psychiatric evaluation,
things of that nature, then,yeah, I think that you should
have somebody to hold youaccountable.
And if you aren't doing it...
then you're not showing that youwere rehabilitated and you are
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provided, you know, apsychologist, psychiatric help
within the mental health jail.
I don't know.
I think they should do thingslike that because addiction is
another one.
That's a mental disorder too.
SPEAKER_04 (31:56):
What we talked about with the psychedelic episode,
when we were talking about howaddiction is something that
potentially Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (32:21):
The human brain is so complex that sometimes we
need a little help understandingwhat's going on up there.
And it's okay.
That's the other thing.
People need to understand it'sokay.
Go ask for help.
But maybe people that are injail for doing drugs...
(32:43):
They need a little bit more helpvia therapy
SPEAKER_04 (32:48):
than cold turkey and things like that.
Because that makes it worse.
Some of the episodes ofwithdrawal for some of these
people.
SPEAKER_02 (32:54):
They can die.
SPEAKER_04 (32:55):
Yeah.
It's bad.
And you're putting them in therewith people who are not addicted
and they have to bunk with thisperson and go through the
experience of withdrawal withtheir bunk mate.
SPEAKER_02 (33:08):
Yeah.
It's traumatic.
SPEAKER_04 (33:09):
It's crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (33:10):
I was in that hospital and my bunkmate was an
addict.
It was an alcoholic, majoralcoholic.
And he was given benzos while wewere there so that he didn't die
from withdrawal because he wasso far gone.
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He would take, they would givehim, obviously they would tailor
it off, but they would give himbenzos.
So his body got that fix and,And slowly weaned him off
instead of saying, all right,you're on your own, bro.
You're in jail now.
You're not getting nothing.
That's messed up, man.
Cause that will kill you.
Withdrawals can kill you.
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It has killed people, especiallyalcohol withdrawals.
SPEAKER_04 (33:55):
I was smiling when you said Benzo, because if we
call our cat that.
SPEAKER_02 (34:00):
His name is Benny.
SPEAKER_04 (34:02):
We call him Benzo.
But yeah.
So I think where I also go withour most recent mental health
discussions that you and i havebeen having is recently within
our neighborhood we experienceda teenage suicide
SPEAKER_03 (34:20):
yeah
SPEAKER_04 (34:21):
um and it impacted a lot of people obviously um
throughout our neighborhood andthis teen was a teen that
actually played soccer with ourkiddo and um so we knew of him i
mean we weren't close obviouslybut we
SPEAKER_02 (34:38):
weren't really friends with him Right.
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (34:47):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (34:58):
I don't know what we can do.
There's just a lack ofresources, I think, towards
this, especially with kids inschools and stuff.
They need a lot more help thanwe did, I think, when we were
younger.
SPEAKER_04 (35:10):
Absolutely.
The world they live in istotally different from even the
world we grew up in.
I mean, we're millennials.
I
SPEAKER_02 (35:17):
mean, they can't turn it off after school like we
could.
We go outside and play.
They have tablets and Facebookand Snapchat.
24 hours a day.
It's so screwed up.
SPEAKER_04 (35:35):
What you said is true.
I think the idea of the twotracks for jail, it almost needs
to be two tracks in school too.
SPEAKER_02 (35:45):
They just need to be made more aware of this stuff.
It's okay.
SPEAKER_04 (35:50):
The parent's responsibility should be to be
able to identify these momentsthat these kids are having where
they're depressed or low oridentify a change in your
child's mental health,
SPEAKER_03 (36:00):
right?
SPEAKER_04 (36:01):
As well as the school needs to be able to
identify to have more resourcesfor when this is identified.
SPEAKER_02 (36:07):
Right, right, right.
And
SPEAKER_04 (36:09):
what to do, how to respond.
And if a child reaches out,that's one thing, but most of
the time people think there's nohelp, right?
Yes.
Most of the time people feelhelpless, hopeless.
And that's what leads to thingslike suicide.
And to me, it's just, there hasto be a way to get A, these kids
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kids to know how to reach out,who to reach out to, what
resources are available for howthey're feeling, and then B,
adults to be involved and beable to provide such resources.
SPEAKER_02 (36:49):
Yeah.
I don't know.
The parenting thing bugs me,too.
It's like, how do you not seethings that are happening?
But I guess a lot of people arejust so hands-off.
SPEAKER_04 (37:00):
Well, a lot of
SPEAKER_02 (37:01):
people put the
SPEAKER_04 (37:02):
tablet in front of them.
SPEAKER_02 (37:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (37:03):
I mean, it's sad.
SPEAKER_02 (37:07):
It's no good.
It's no good.
Like I said, this is a youngkid.
And he committed suicide.
SPEAKER_04 (37:15):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (37:17):
That's nuts to me.
SPEAKER_04 (37:19):
A teenager, yeah.
So young.
SPEAKER_02 (37:21):
And I'm talking middle school teenager, not high
school teenager.
SPEAKER_04 (37:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (37:25):
We'll just funnel it down a little bit.
But it's terrifying to me.
SPEAKER_04 (37:31):
Yep.
I wonder if...
he had given some reach out.
Like if he reached out toanybody or if anyone identified
it, you know, like there'salways the what ifs, I guess,
but it just makes you think.
SPEAKER_02 (37:48):
I know.
I know.
But knowing that he was thathopeless to go through with, you
know, that final act is like,Terrible.
It's so sad.
Because it doesn't...
You don't just...
I don't think that's somethingthat happens overnight.
SPEAKER_04 (38:09):
No, for sure.
SPEAKER_02 (38:10):
That's trauma over a long period of
SPEAKER_04 (38:28):
time.
SPEAKER_02 (38:36):
is the end and they do something that they can't
come back from and That sucksbecause all of this is
preventable.
That's the thing.
Like there are a lot ofresources, but I don't, I just
feel like these kids don't knowabout them.
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Well, especially if they, theirhome life might not be the best.
Right.
Mom, I'm not feeling really feelkind of sad today.
And then it was like, Oh, you'rejust going through something.
It's like, no, no, no, no, no.
You need to take that shitseriously.
SPEAKER_04 (39:09):
Yep.
Not to say that's what happened.
SPEAKER_02 (39:12):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Right.
I'm just saying in general, likepay attention to your daggone
kids.
Yep.
If they call out for help, it'syour job to answer it.
You're their parent.
SPEAKER_04 (39:24):
I mean, I really do hope that there are, you know,
we talked about all of thisresearch that's happening with
psychedelics.
I really do hope that if thereis some clear indication that
this is a cure that it can beused for kids too.
I mean, I know psychedelics is atouchy subject for a lot of
people, but
SPEAKER_02 (39:45):
It's a touchy subject when you're dropping a
magic mushroom that you got offthe street.
If you do it in a medicalenvironment with X dose...
To me, that shouldn't be touchy.
It's just like anything else.
SPEAKER_04 (40:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (40:03):
It's just like getting an IV.
SPEAKER_04 (40:05):
Well, I really do believe, and I forget which
doctor said this, but I reallydo believe that everything that
we need in order to healourselves of any ailment is on
this planet.
SPEAKER_03 (40:18):
I agree.
I
SPEAKER_04 (40:19):
believe there are plants and herbs and all the
things that we need on thisplanet already.
Yep.
So psychedelics to me soundspromising because they are
naturally occurring.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (40:30):
And if they can reduce down the dose and really
fine tune the dose you get.
So you're not just like, I hopethis one's not too strong, you
know?
Worth looking at, I think.
SPEAKER_04 (40:42):
I agree.
And it was interesting.
SPEAKER_02 (40:45):
None of this is medical advice.
SPEAKER_04 (40:47):
No, God, no.
We're not that smart.
SPEAKER_02 (40:50):
We're not doctors here.
SPEAKER_04 (40:51):
Right.
But it was brought to myattention that it may be against
religion to use psychedelics.
And I'm like, why?
SPEAKER_02 (41:03):
Well, there's, okay.
SPEAKER_04 (41:05):
If we created this in a lab, maybe it could be
considered a, synthetic drug andagainst religion, but it grows
on the earth.
SPEAKER_02 (41:16):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (41:18):
God put it here.
SPEAKER_02 (41:19):
Right.
There's things that I just don'tunderstand why people would want
to hamper themselves if it couldhelp.
Like somebody with major, majordepression tried everything.
SPEAKER_03 (41:35):
You know,
SPEAKER_02 (41:36):
tried therapy, tried Zoloft, whatever,
antidepressants, anything likethat they tried everything and
psychedelics they were like heythis is a new upcoming thing we
want to let you try it and theysay no it's against my religion
come on I'm sorry I respect yourreligion and everything but try
(42:00):
to get better
SPEAKER_04 (42:01):
yeah I mean I think
SPEAKER_02 (42:04):
we're not saying drop acid that's the thing we're
not saying do drugs it's not adrug at that point
SPEAKER_04 (42:11):
I mean, it's
SPEAKER_02 (42:12):
a prescription drug.
SPEAKER_04 (42:14):
Any type of drug or alcohol or whatever, it's all
about gluttony, right?
Gluttony is one of the sevendeadly sins.
Okay, fine.
We can get on that track.
Yeah.
But if you're utilizingsomething that grows naturally,
was put on this earth.
SPEAKER_02 (42:26):
To help you.
SPEAKER_04 (42:28):
Right.
To help you live to seetomorrow.
SPEAKER_02 (42:30):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (42:31):
Then why?
I don't see that being againstreligion.
SPEAKER_02 (42:35):
You're not dropping acid to trip balls and go to
Dragon World and fly around ondragons.
SPEAKER_04 (42:43):
Dragon world.
SPEAKER_02 (42:44):
I don't know, but you're, you're doing it to
hopefully open your mind up andmaybe enhance and remove some
bad neural pathways.
Right.
I don't know how all thisexactly works.
I am not a scientist, but fromwhat I've read and heard, it's,
that's part of it.
SPEAKER_04 (43:02):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It's
SPEAKER_02 (43:03):
like a self discovery journey and it helps
you kind of like
SPEAKER_04 (43:07):
reset your pathways.
SPEAKER_02 (43:08):
Yeah.
Reset your pathways.
And you're like, man, why am idepressed about that that is
dumb look how big everything isyou know things of that nature
but i i respect religion i'm notgonna pretend like i'm super
religious but i just feel as ifyou are that down or depressed
(43:29):
or that ocd why not give it ashot you know absolutely you're
not doing drugs at that pointright prescriptions are drugs
SPEAKER_04 (43:38):
right
SPEAKER_02 (43:39):
but
SPEAKER_04 (43:39):
and can be used as Yeah,
SPEAKER_02 (43:42):
benzos are one of them.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_04 (43:45):
Our poor
SPEAKER_02 (43:45):
cat.
They can actually kill you ifyou withdraw too fast.
Yep.
It's so crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (43:51):
Well, staying on this idea of religion, what do
you want done with you when youdie?
SPEAKER_02 (43:57):
What do I want done?
SPEAKER_04 (43:59):
Yeah.
What do you want done with yourbody that is left on this planet
SPEAKER_02 (44:06):
when
SPEAKER_04 (44:07):
you die?
SPEAKER_02 (44:08):
My shell that is left here.
UNKNOWN (44:10):
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02 (44:11):
I want you to rent a boat.
SPEAKER_04 (44:13):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (44:16):
Put my feet in concrete blocks.
SPEAKER_04 (44:19):
Wait, so you're intact?
SPEAKER_02 (44:21):
Yeah, anything else is too expensive.
SPEAKER_04 (44:25):
Okay.
So as is, except your soul hasleft your body.
SPEAKER_02 (44:28):
We just talked to a family acquaintance.
And how much did they say afuneral was?
SPEAKER_04 (44:36):
Oh,
SPEAKER_02 (44:37):
yeah.
It was$25,000,$30,000.
SPEAKER_04 (44:39):
It was up there.
Yeah.
It was high.
Thousands.
Like tens of thousands.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (44:46):
I want you to save that money.
SPEAKER_04 (44:48):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (44:49):
Go to Lowe's.
SPEAKER_04 (44:50):
Assuming that you go first.
SPEAKER_02 (44:52):
I'm going to.
SPEAKER_04 (44:52):
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (44:53):
All right.
I want you to go to Lowe's.
Buy two five-gallon buckets.
SPEAKER_04 (44:58):
Some quick cement.
SPEAKER_02 (44:59):
And quick crete.
Pour that shit in the buckets,put my legs in there, and throw
my ass in the Gulf of Mexico.
That's it.
SPEAKER_04 (45:07):
Okay, so I have to weaken at Bernie's you and hold
you up.
He's sleeping.
He's sleeping.
SPEAKER_02 (45:14):
You just go rent a boat.
Nobody's going to go out withyou.
SPEAKER_04 (45:18):
How am I going to get your
SPEAKER_02 (45:19):
body into a boat?
You got a duffel bag full offishing stuff.
I'm going fishing.
SPEAKER_04 (45:25):
And I gotta carry you in a duffel bag.
This is getting way too creepy.
Like, somebody's gonna thinkthat I did it.
That I offed you.
SPEAKER_02 (45:34):
No, the only reason why I'm saying to put my feet in
the concrete is to...
So you sink, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because, you know, I think wewould float.
SPEAKER_04 (45:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (45:40):
That's gross.
SPEAKER_04 (45:41):
Yeah, and somebody would find you.
Oh, my God, he got dumped.
SPEAKER_02 (45:43):
Yeah.
So if you sink me to the bottom,at least, like, I'm part of the
earth now.
The wildlife will start chewingon me and all that stuff.
There'll be nothing left.
Honestly, that's what we shoulddo.
I'm not paying 30 grand.
to get put in a box to be put inthe ground.
Just buy me some$25 Quikrete andsome buckets.
SPEAKER_04 (46:05):
I can't.
My girlfriend...
Is
SPEAKER_02 (46:08):
this appropriate?
SPEAKER_04 (46:11):
One of my friends and we...
I feel like it is a dark topic,right?
But that is kind of the humorbetween me and one of my
girlfriends.
And she said what she wants donewith her is you put her body in
compost.
And you can actually pay to havethis done.
It's thousands of dollars.
(46:31):
See, but why would you pay?
I know, I hear you.
But you become compost.
They keep turning you afteryou're, you know, gone.
That
SPEAKER_02 (46:39):
is so creepy.
SPEAKER_04 (46:40):
You talk about going back to the earth, right?
You're compost.
SPEAKER_02 (46:45):
I just said that's creepy while I just gave you a
murderer playbook.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (46:52):
But then I was watching oh crap, I was watching
some show and they talked abouthow someone sued Mountain Dew
because they found a rat in theMountain Dew, right?
SPEAKER_02 (47:04):
Yeah, but their defense was...
They
SPEAKER_04 (47:06):
won the case.
Mountain Dew won the casebecause their defense was that
rat would have dissolved beforeit ever got to a consumer.
Before it even left the factory,it would have dissolved.
That's
SPEAKER_02 (47:18):
nasty.
SPEAKER_04 (47:18):
So that's what I told my girlfriend that I want.
Just get a bunch of MountainDew.
SPEAKER_02 (47:21):
Dissolve me in Mountain Dew.
Oh.
So what is more morbid my
SPEAKER_04 (47:27):
idea nobody's gonna see me
SPEAKER_02 (47:30):
being turned into you can do that in the bathtub
yeah but I so so that's my thingis like I like the ocean
SPEAKER_04 (47:36):
right but I'm gonna have to get you into a vehicle
into a boat
SPEAKER_02 (47:41):
drive slow don't get pulled over right
SPEAKER_04 (47:45):
into a duffel bag oh my god
SPEAKER_02 (47:49):
I think we gotta cut this whole segment out of this
damn podcast no
SPEAKER_04 (47:53):
way I do wanna end it with this though I found I
read this article.
So Ozempic is a big deal rightnow,
SPEAKER_03 (47:59):
right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the weight loss drug.
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (48:02):
Everybody wants to lose weight, and this is a way
to do it quick.
Ozempic's a big deal.
Well, they're finding that womenwho are using Ozempic,
specifically women who arehigher in age, are becoming more
fertile.
SPEAKER_02 (48:21):
Oh, no.
We're going to have a bunch ofold ladies in the villages
getting pregnant.
Oh,
SPEAKER_04 (48:25):
won't we?
A woman, 53 years old, ended uppregnant because of losemping.
SPEAKER_02 (48:32):
Oh, my God.
I'm not
SPEAKER_04 (48:33):
using it.
I'm not going near it.
If anybody is on it, go away.
SPEAKER_02 (48:37):
Yeah.
If you sniff right, you're goingto get pregnant.
SPEAKER_04 (48:41):
Right?
We're not going to the villages.
No.
Because they might be using it.
I'm not going.
SPEAKER_02 (48:46):
That's terrifying.
SPEAKER_04 (48:47):
Yeah.
53 years old and pregnant.
SPEAKER_02 (48:50):
Yeah.
We had a friend that he was inhis 50s, right?
SPEAKER_04 (48:54):
40s.
SPEAKER_02 (48:54):
40s.
High 40s.
And he had like a five-year-old.
I was like, bro, you're going tobe like 75 when your kid walks
down the Graduation aisle.
Graduation aisle.
SPEAKER_04 (49:05):
But, you know, I honestly feel like you're more.
Stable.
Mature.
Yes, I agree.
At that age and can handle atoddler better.
You have more
SPEAKER_02 (49:16):
patience.
I don't know.
You're seeing grumpy old people.
SPEAKER_04 (49:19):
But I'm talking 40s.
I'm not talking 70s.
SPEAKER_02 (49:22):
Yeah, but he's going to be 70 when his kid walks.
I graduated high school and thenthey got to wheel his dad out.
And he's like, yeah, I can't.
Bye.
Where are we going?
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