June 24, 2024 • 56 mins
In Episode 50 of Unfiltered Union, Russ and Lindz, who claim 76 years of wedded bliss despite being just 35, navigate the wild ride of launching their Substack, their daughter's fearless ear-piercing despite a needle phobia, and the "yee-haw" crisis in modern country music. Sprinkled with laughter, they debate streaming service woes, Cowboy Cheerleaders, and the questionable morality of posting the Ten Commandments in classrooms. They even squeeze in some mall nostalgia and spontaneous dream analysis, making it an unfiltered quirky adventure from start to finish.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
The Unfiltered Union Podcast.
Fifty.
SPEAKER_02 (00:10):
You turned 50?
SPEAKER_01 (00:11):
50th episode.
SPEAKER_02 (00:13):
Oh, gotcha.
SPEAKER_01 (00:16):
I'm Linz.
I would hope that you know howold I am.
We've been married for 76 years.
And you're?
35.
SPEAKER_02 (00:26):
I said I'm Linz.
SPEAKER_01 (00:31):
I'm just already starting off very nice.
I'm Russ.
SPEAKER_02 (00:35):
Thanks.
There we go.
Okay.
50th episode.
SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
Yeah, I can't believe it.
SPEAKER_02 (00:40):
Does that include when we tried this back in 2016?
SPEAKER_01 (00:46):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (00:47):
Okay.
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (00:48):
Well, the thing though is we have a lot more.
We have a bunch that were awful.
I'm not saying the content wasawful.
SPEAKER_02 (00:58):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (00:58):
The quality was awful because we had no idea
what We just did it.
SPEAKER_02 (01:03):
And we didn't have a studio like we have today.
This ain't
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really a studio.
Look at our backgrounddecorations.
SPEAKER_02 (01:10):
You did such a good job.
SPEAKER_01 (01:11):
It's a pair of headphones.
SPEAKER_02 (01:13):
It looks so
SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
good.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02 (01:43):
Don't
SPEAKER_01 (01:45):
go to
SPEAKER_02 (01:47):
HR.
I'm going to use my hands.
You and I talk about what'shappening in the world or with
us, but it always comes back towe can have our own opinions and
still be married
SPEAKER_01 (01:59):
at the end of the day.
And not get mad.
Right.
Well, I mean, we do get mad.
SPEAKER_02 (02:02):
Not at each other, though.
SPEAKER_01 (02:05):
Well, we get over it.
SPEAKER_02 (02:06):
Right.
You don't have to end yourmarriage or end your friendship
or end your friendship online.
just because you don't agreewith somebody.
SPEAKER_01 (02:15):
For sure.
I don't know why you would.
SPEAKER_02 (02:17):
Well, people do, and they're crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (02:19):
I don't get it.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Let's kick it off with our kid who got her ears
pierced this weekend.
SPEAKER_01 (02:25):
Super random.
She asked this week.
We've been asking her ever sinceshe was born.
We asked her as an infant, doyou want your ears pierced?
No, we did not.
She said, yeah, you know, aftershe shat herself.
But, no, we've been asking herfor a long time, and she never
wanted to, because she's afraid,of course.
That's scary to kids.
Needles.
SPEAKER_02 (02:45):
Well, we don't lie to her.
We show her videos of otherpeople doing it.
We explain the process.
I never want my child to beuneducated about a decision
she's about to make.
SPEAKER_01 (02:56):
Right.
For sure.
And she finally came up to usthis week and said, I want to go
get my ears pierced.
And we're like, we'll take youthis weekend.
And we went and I was going tobet money that she was going to
chicken out at the last second.
And she didn't.
SPEAKER_02 (03:12):
It was the sushi.
SPEAKER_01 (03:13):
Yeah.
You can buy that kid off withsushi.
It's the weirdest thing I'veever seen, but you can
definitely buy this kid off withsushi.
She's
SPEAKER_02 (03:20):
nine
SPEAKER_01 (03:21):
and
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loves sushi.
SPEAKER_01 (03:22):
And we're not talking just California roll.
We're talking raw fish on top ofa chunk of rice.
SPEAKER_02 (03:29):
Yep.
Tuna sushi.
SPEAKER_01 (03:30):
Yeah.
Tuna sushi.
She loves tuna.
Raw tuna or salmon.
She's a big salmon fan.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (03:39):
But we went to the mall and we did the Claire's
route, you know, hate us if youwant.
But I think for me, that's whereI got all of my piercings done.
I've never had an issue.
So that's the route she wantedto go as well because she wanted
to buy additional earrings whilewe were there.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
Oh, and they were very caring about how she felt.
We said, if you're going to doit, you have to do it right.
You have to get both pierced.
And they said, oh, don't worryabout that because we'll have
two people doing it, which wassuper nice because not Not
just...
Her chickening out, but gettingone done and being like, ow,
that hurt.
Yeah, I'm not doing the otherone, which would suck.
SPEAKER_02 (04:16):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (04:17):
Because she wants both.
Well, they brought a secondperson in and they did
everything at once.
SPEAKER_02 (04:23):
Yep.
And it went really well.
There was no tears.
She didn't even cry.
I know.
SPEAKER_01 (04:29):
She's stronger than me.
SPEAKER_02 (04:32):
No, she bossed it, let's just say.
But while we were there, herthing is also escalators, but as
long as She gets to ride acouple escalators.
She's happy at the mall.
SPEAKER_01 (04:42):
Other than Claire's, the trip was free.
I mean, food, but you have toeat.
The trip was free.
She loves escalators.
And that's free.
Go to Macy's and ride thefucking escalator up and down
and you're good to go.
SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
She was happy.
But what surprised me is she andmy daughter, she and my
daughter, my daughter and I,goodness, we go to the mall very
sparingly.
Typically, it's like short-termstuff, like from Christmas or to
just get out of the house for abit, ride the escalators, get
(05:16):
sushi.
But other than that, we don'tventure out to the mall very
often.
And most of the time, it hasbeen pretty, not empty, but
there aren't many people there.
Today, it was bumping.
SPEAKER_01 (05:28):
Oh, yeah.
It was packed.
That food court, you had to belucky to find a seat.
SPEAKER_02 (05:34):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (05:35):
Which was good.
I like seeing that becausepeople...
Even though the economy is notreally good, people are still, I
guess they're trying, you know,trying to go out and about and
do things with their familiesbecause it's expensive.
SPEAKER_02 (05:51):
For sure.
SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
Claire's cost us, what was it,$85 just for the
piercing?
SPEAKER_02 (05:55):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (05:56):
I mean, we did upgrade the earring, but we
wanted to make sure she got,what is it called?
SPEAKER_02 (06:02):
Gold.
SPEAKER_01 (06:03):
Gold, because it's anti-allergen or whatever.
SPEAKER_02 (06:06):
Right.
It's supposed to be more forsensitive ears.
But...
There's lots of debate as towhat Claire's provides, but it
all came down to her choice asto where and what to do after.
But ultimately the fact that themall was so packed, I feel like
there were a lot of peoplethere.
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And I keep hearing that mallsare dying, right?
Like malls are becoming a thingof the past.
They were big when they firstcame out in the seventies,
eighties.
And then, you know, throughoutmy childhood, I was at the mall
every week.
weekend
SPEAKER_01 (06:40):
oh my god not just your childhood when we started
dating at you were 14 14 I was15 you were at the mall every
week I remember calling you onSaturdays I'll call you right
back I'm at the mall I'm likehow the fuck do you have so much
money
SPEAKER_02 (06:56):
we didn't it was just the thing to do something
to do kind of like when I takeour kiddo out it's you know go
go out have lunch and right nowe didn't have escalators at our
mall in Virginia but anyways uhSo the idea that malls are
dying, I'm like, that doesn'tseem like that's proof.
SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
I don't.
Yeah.
Today kind of changed my mind.
So what I think about that ismaybe that high rent type deal
is dying.
Like, I couldn't imagine therent at a mall.
But a store owner, maybe theyjust couldn't afford.
I don't know.
I keep spinning it around incircles with this because I feel
(07:37):
like.
Most businesses can't affordthat massive high mall rent, I
would assume, especially in theeconomy the way it is right now.
So is that what they're talkingabout?
Malls dying because the peoplethat own the malls are like, I'm
not making any money anymorebecause people don't want to pay
this rent.
SPEAKER_02 (07:56):
I feel like that kind of goes back and forth with
the idea of COVID, right?
And remote work that people wantstill today want jobs of remote
work.
Companies are like, we've spentbillions of dollars on in You're
bringing your asses back.
SPEAKER_01 (08:11):
Yeah, well, that's not...
I don't know.
That's not good.
I don't think that...
I think it should be a choice.
SPEAKER_02 (08:21):
Well, I agree, but I'm just saying, like, when you
think of the idea ofinfrastructure, if a mall
already is built, right, and youessentially are renting out to
tenants, so you're saying thathigh rent...
Is a thing of the past.
SPEAKER_01 (08:37):
I don't know.
I'm just guessing.
I don't know if that's what theymean.
Because what I saw today, mallsain't going nowhere.
That place was freaking packed.
SPEAKER_02 (08:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (08:46):
And people were in every single store we walked by.
Claire's was packed.
SPEAKER_02 (08:51):
Yeah.
Was there a tax refund?
Could it be tax refund?
No.
SPEAKER_01 (08:55):
I don't even
SPEAKER_02 (08:55):
think it's tax free weekend.
I
SPEAKER_01 (08:58):
know that because of the hurricane stuff down here in
Florida, they do like a tax freemonth or something.
But
SPEAKER_02 (09:05):
that's on generators and I forget what else.
No.
No, but speaking of things beingexpensive, you told me today
about Amazon.
SPEAKER_01 (09:17):
Yeah, Amazon Alexa.
SPEAKER_02 (09:21):
Not in here.
SPEAKER_01 (09:23):
They are...
From what I read, they'replanning on charging something
for the next generation ofAlexa, which is all this
generative AI.
your chat GPTs, your largelanguage model type assistance,
not just Alexa, turn my lightsoff type shit.
(09:46):
It's like you can converse withit, things of that nature.
They're supposedly they'retalking about there's going to
be a price tag for it.
Now, some people have said fivebucks and some people have said
all the way up to ten bucks.
I feel like Amazon fumbled sohard on this generative AI
stuff.
It is mind boggling.
(10:08):
They have I'm pretty surethey're the number one home
speaker type deal.
You know, Amazon Alexa typeshit.
They're the number one retailerfor that.
You have literally millions ofthese units in people's houses.
SPEAKER_02 (10:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:27):
You should have been the first company out there to
release some kind of generativeAI on those things.
SPEAKER_02 (10:34):
Well, it sounds like they're still going to be.
Yeah, but
SPEAKER_01 (10:36):
they're late.
Now it's like...
It...
They're late and they're notdoing it.
Like charging money for it isnuts.
SPEAKER_02 (10:47):
But if they're trying to put a device in your
house, whole new device, it's anApple play, right?
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
No, they're not doing whole.
It's not going to need whole newdevices.
It's all server based.
Oh, all your devices that youhave.
That's what I'm saying.
Everybody that has an Alexa, I'mpretty sure has the capability
of this new large languagemodel.
SPEAKER_02 (11:07):
So you're like upgrading your software on your
existing, Echo.
SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
It sends all your queries to the cloud.
Yeah, it sends all your queriesto the cloud, so it can work on
essentially anything.
So the fact that they are...
SPEAKER_02 (11:25):
So it's essentially software as a service.
Right.
That you can put on any device.
SPEAKER_01 (11:33):
Well, you can put...
It's going to be a pay-forupgrade for your existing Alexa
devices.
SPEAKER_02 (11:40):
Okay, so I guess I don't understand what the
benefit would be.
SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
Well, you could ask it a lot of different things and
converse with it, like say, hey,my wife's birthday's tomorrow.
Give me 10 good ideas for abirthday party that
SPEAKER_02 (11:59):
are
SPEAKER_01 (12:00):
local to blah, blah, blah.
And it will spit it out.
It's smart.
It's a really good freakingidea.
But why aren't they...
They should be moving a lotfaster than they are.
Everybody else is.
SPEAKER_02 (12:14):
When I think of the AI, chat, GPT, those type
things, those are more for...
What do I want to say?
When you ask Alexa a question, Idon't want to make it go off in
our house.
If you ask it a question,then...
your response that you get back,it's already searching the web,
(12:35):
right?
So to me, the chat GPT becomesmore about like deep dive
prompts, I guess.
So if you're doing a researchpaper, like it can help you with
a research paper.
If you're doing just, how do youfix an Excel formula?
I've done that.
SPEAKER_01 (12:53):
Smart way to do it though.
SPEAKER_02 (12:55):
Well, I know, but like putting that on your echo
dot, we'll call them in yourhouse, which is an Amazon
product, what benefit do youhave of that versus what it
already does?
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
Well, I think part of it is like what I said.
You could ask questions likethat.
You could say, hey, give meseven different action movies or
something like that fromdifferent eras that I can add to
my playlist.
Anything, really.
It'll integrate with your musicsoftware.
Make a playlist for Tay-Tay.
SPEAKER_02 (13:31):
I am starting to feel like such an old person.
SPEAKER_01 (13:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (13:36):
I'm not even kidding.
Like, how are you going to usethat technology?
Like, that's how I feel.
SPEAKER_01 (13:41):
Yeah, but it's got a lot.
I don't even know how much,like, what else the Alexa can do
and, you know, the next-genAlexa can do inside of your
house.
But it's mostly, I would assumeit's mostly things that you can
already do with Google.
Yeah.
search and things like that, butinstead of typing, you just
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talk.
You converse in natural languageinstead of...
going to Google and say, find mefive things to do tonight in
Tampa.
SPEAKER_02 (14:16):
I guess.
I'm old.
We said it at the beginning.
We're in our mid-30s, and I justfeel
SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
like we're
SPEAKER_02 (14:25):
getting so old with how all this technology is being
used and implemented.
It was all about smart homes afew years ago.
The Echo Dots were a thing.
SPEAKER_01 (14:35):
That's why I think they're fumbling hard.
Because they were pre...
They were like, you're a smarthome hub.
And now they're trying to moveit into this generative AI
stuff.
And it's like, you should havedone that a year ago.
SPEAKER_02 (14:52):
Maybe probably true.
But I don't know.
I just...
what, what difference?
It doesn't feel like adifference that from what it
does now.
SPEAKER_01 (15:03):
It's smarter.
Okay,
SPEAKER_02 (15:04):
fine.
SPEAKER_01 (15:05):
Instead of, instead of, cause you know, half the
time you say, Alexa, tell mewho, who was born last month.
You know, what famous peoplewere born last month.
Half the time.
It's like dirt.
Well,
SPEAKER_02 (15:15):
it's a contributor.
SPEAKER_01 (15:17):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
This
SPEAKER_02 (15:18):
response.
SPEAKER_01 (15:18):
But now it's like real time searching the web,
pulling in data.
It's, it's, it's really cool.
SPEAKER_02 (15:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:26):
But I, Yeah.
Personally would not pay$10 oreven$5 a month for that.
I'm not doing it.
I use my phone.
SPEAKER_02 (15:34):
Yeah, at this point.
Because I guess that's yourpoint, right?
They've missed the mark.
Yeah.
And you just will use your phonebecause it's readily available.
SPEAKER_01 (15:42):
Exactly.
Everybody's got a phone.
Most people have.
And look, Apple's doing Appleintelligence, which cracks me up
so bad.
Again,
SPEAKER_02 (15:53):
I just feel so.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
Yeah, that's the thing now.
It's AI arms races.
Yeah, but they're the
SPEAKER_02 (16:00):
only ones charging for it so far.
SPEAKER_01 (16:02):
Amazon?
SPEAKER_02 (16:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (16:03):
No, they're all charging.
Well, Apple's not going tocharge for it.
Google charges for GeminiAdvanced, and ChatGPT has a
ChatGPT Plus plan.
SPEAKER_02 (16:16):
Is Copilot built into Microsoft?
UNKNOWN (16:20):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (16:20):
It is, but you have to pay for it.
If you have Microsoft Copilotfor your business, I think it's
an extra cost per user.
I think it's actually prettyexpensive, too.
It's like$30 a month per user.
SPEAKER_02 (16:34):
Geez.
SPEAKER_01 (16:35):
I think.
SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
Well, guess what else is going up in price?
SPEAKER_01 (16:39):
Life.
SPEAKER_02 (16:41):
That's a good answer.
Spotify.
SPEAKER_01 (16:44):
Yeah, that's bullshit, man.
I'm about sick of them.
SPEAKER_02 (16:48):
We use Spotify.
Oh,
SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
I love it.
SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
Even our kiddo has it.
She's got the Spotify kidsversion.
SPEAKER_01 (16:54):
I
SPEAKER_02 (16:55):
mean, we have it for our family
SPEAKER_01 (16:57):
and we have a family plan.
SPEAKER_02 (16:59):
Right.
And it's it's good.
I love it because it has all ofour like songs ever.
Right.
Ever.
SPEAKER_01 (17:07):
That's the issue.
SPEAKER_02 (17:08):
And I well, I can't imagine not having that.
SPEAKER_01 (17:13):
So I have found services that will transfer your
playlists and your like songs toanother service.
SPEAKER_02 (17:21):
So one thing you need to know about Russ,
technology is his thing, right?
You're all about technology andyou love finding the new best
thing.
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Me nerd.
SPEAKER_02 (17:31):
Yeah, but when we switch profiles over and over
again, I've lost things in thepast.
It's not my fault.
No, I'm not saying that I'm notsaying it's your fault.
I'm saying that I've lost it.
I don't want to lose my songs.
SPEAKER_01 (17:45):
I know.
That's why we do the servicesthat allow the transfer.
I've done it with Apple Musicbefore.
SPEAKER_02 (17:52):
Or we just bite the bullet and we keep Spotify.
SPEAKER_01 (17:55):
I want to switch out of principle right now.
I
SPEAKER_02 (17:59):
understand.
SPEAKER_01 (17:59):
Because it's a constant.
It hasn't stayed the same price.
It seems like they increase itonce a year now.
I
SPEAKER_02 (18:07):
don't...
I feel like everybody's doingthat, though.
Not only Spotify, Netflix isdoing it.
You've got Amazon Prime.
All of these subscriptionservices are just going up.
SPEAKER_01 (18:20):
I don't
SPEAKER_02 (18:20):
understand why.
Are you not meeting yoursubscriber count?
SPEAKER_01 (18:25):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (18:26):
I can't imagine that's true.
SPEAKER_01 (18:29):
But they wonder why people are cutting the cord and
not having cable TV.
It's like, that stuff is sofreaking expensive.
And we are being subscribed todeath.
Everything's a subscriptionanymore.
SPEAKER_02 (18:42):
It's like rent.
SPEAKER_01 (18:44):
If you cancel Spotify, boom, your music
library's gone.
That's crap.
You own nothing.
SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
I would be very sad.
I would probably slip into adeep, dark depression.
No, I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_01 (18:59):
It's just weird, though, that that's how
everything is now.
Even gaming is like that.
SPEAKER_02 (19:06):
Yeah, you said that before.
You don't own games
SPEAKER_01 (19:08):
anymore.
You don't own games there was agame that just I can't remember
it came out a couple years agoor whatever but they just closed
down the servers it's like okaythen let me play a single player
no it requires an onlineconnection to the server to play
so you can't even play that gameanymore at all even if You want
to just play it by yourself.
You cannot play it, even thoughyou bought it.
SPEAKER_02 (19:29):
That's sad.
SPEAKER_01 (19:31):
It's a bunch of crap.
I remember going to the freakingstore, buying a disc, sticking
it in the console, and I couldplay that thing whenever I
wanted.
SPEAKER_02 (19:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (19:39):
Unplug the internet from it, and I could still play
it.
Not anymore.
SPEAKER_02 (19:46):
Sad.
SPEAKER_01 (19:48):
I don't like it.
It's kind of freaky to me.
SPEAKER_02 (19:51):
You don't own anything
SPEAKER_01 (19:52):
anymore.
You own nothing.
I think the World WEF, what isit?
SPEAKER_02 (19:59):
World Environmental Federation?
SPEAKER_01 (20:01):
Something like that.
SPEAKER_02 (20:02):
Water Environmental
SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
Federation?
No, I think it's World.
Okay, regardless.
Anyway, WEF, I think they saidsomething like that.
They had a quote on theirwebsite.
In the future, you will ownnothing and you'll be happy.
SPEAKER_02 (20:16):
That's a very philosophical thing to say.
Because if you think about it,does it mean less responsibility
or more responsibility?
Who has the responsibility?
There's a lot to unpack there.
SPEAKER_01 (20:27):
You own nothing?
That's not good.
SPEAKER_02 (20:31):
I know, but is it a shifting of responsibility?
Is it I have responsibility orno more responsibility because I
don't own it?
It's like the idea of who isresponsible, where does that go?
SPEAKER_01 (20:41):
No, it means if you stop paying your car.
I understand
SPEAKER_02 (20:44):
fundamentally what it means.
SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
It's messed up.
SPEAKER_02 (20:46):
But philosophically.
But
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
then again, as of right now, you technically don't
really own anything, even if youpay your freaking house off.
SPEAKER_02 (20:55):
I mean, depending on what state you live in, but if
you pay your car off, you stillpay taxes.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (21:01):
Why?
SPEAKER_02 (21:02):
Lord knows.
SPEAKER_01 (21:03):
It's not right.
SPEAKER_02 (21:05):
Back to Spotify.
So, yeah, all the services aredoing it.
I personally can't imagine nothaving my liked songs.
I understand their services, butI can't imagine not having
Spotify.
SPEAKER_01 (21:20):
Well, I like Spotify's interface a lot.
And that's my biggest issue isI've tried Apple Music.
Wasn't much of a fan of theirinterface, but it's something I
can work through.
Can you?
And YouTube music is actually,they've got a family plan and it
actually includes ad-freeYouTube.
(21:41):
So I was thinking, you know, ifI have to pay that, it's going
to be like 21 bucks a month forus, I think, because of taxes.
Why not just pay an extra dollarand have YouTube ad-free
included?
Because we watch a lot ofYouTube.
SPEAKER_02 (21:56):
We will talk about the budgetary standpoint of that
maybe off camera.
SPEAKER_01 (22:00):
We're about to
SPEAKER_02 (22:01):
fight.
No, it's not a fight.
It's not a fight.
Spotify is probably going to bethe same cost as what you're
just talking about.
So you're talking about onprinciple again.
SPEAKER_01 (22:08):
I'm talking about on principle and you get more bang
for your buck with YouTubemusic.
Ad-free YouTube is shit.
SPEAKER_02 (22:16):
Fair.
I want to shift gears.
Not totally, but a little bithere.
The idea of music, right?
You and I have talked about thisa lot.
We enjoy music in general.
Like if you look at our likedsongs, we do it every year,
right?
One of our podcasts is let's gothrough our, what do they call
(22:37):
it?
The wrap up.
SPEAKER_01 (22:38):
Yeah.
Spotify wrap up, which we won'tget anymore because we're
canceling it.
Stop it.
SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
So we do the wrap up every year and our playlists are
pretty diverse.
I mean, your, leans a littleheavy on our nine-year-old
because she does use yours.
To play music throughout thehouse is just what it's tied to.
But anyways, mine is verydiverse, wouldn't you say?
SPEAKER_01 (22:59):
Yeah, you're weird.
SPEAKER_02 (23:01):
I like it all.
I'm talking classical music,jazz all the way through,
country rock, rap.
SPEAKER_01 (23:06):
Spoons.
SPEAKER_02 (23:08):
I do like folk.
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
Charlie Marks is good.
SPEAKER_02 (23:12):
He really is.
So when we think about countrymusic, you and I have talked
about this a lot.
I
SPEAKER_01 (23:20):
know exactly who you're going to talk about, too.
SPEAKER_02 (23:22):
No.
It doesn't have to be just thatone individual artist.
I want to talk about it as abroad landscape.
Country music, to me, is havingan identity crisis.
SPEAKER_01 (23:34):
There's no such thing as country music anymore.
SPEAKER_02 (23:37):
Right.
I feel like we have very smallsubcategories of country music
now, and there's not one truesound of country music anymore.
Maybe that's not a bad thing,but...
When I hear songs...
SPEAKER_01 (23:55):
By who?
SPEAKER_02 (23:56):
By Hardy.
Which is your new favoriteartist right now.
Even our kiddo likes Hardy.
SPEAKER_01 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (24:03):
But when you hear songs by Hardy, or when I do, I
don't automatically thinkcountry.
SPEAKER_01 (24:09):
I never think country.
Okay, there's a couple that maysound...
They even don't sound country.
It's like more of that poppy
SPEAKER_02 (24:18):
stuff.
And he talks about redneck life.
He talks about...
country live in, but...
SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
It's not country.
SPEAKER_02 (24:27):
The actual sounds are not country.
There is no...
Regular guitar.
It is an electric guitar.
SPEAKER_01 (24:36):
And it's metal.
SPEAKER_02 (24:37):
Right.
It is metal.
SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
He screams.
He growls.
SPEAKER_02 (24:41):
Is there double bass?
Because I feel like there should
SPEAKER_01 (24:45):
be.
I think there is in some of hisstuff.
SPEAKER_02 (24:48):
Right.
So to me, Hardy is more, ifwe're going to call him country,
he's country rock or countrymetal.
SPEAKER_01 (24:58):
I saw somebody call him Tennessee new metal.
SPEAKER_02 (25:02):
Okay.
See,
SPEAKER_01 (25:04):
new metal.
Nashville new metal.
Okay.
I think is what they said.
I guess, I don't know.
He's not country.
He's
SPEAKER_02 (25:10):
not the only one, though.
He's not the only one in
SPEAKER_01 (25:12):
country music.
Brian isn't country.
SPEAKER_02 (25:14):
He is pop,
SPEAKER_01 (25:15):
right?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:16):
And you have, Shaboosie is a new one.
SPEAKER_01 (25:18):
Just because you sing about country stuff doesn't
make you country.
SPEAKER_02 (25:23):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (25:23):
Like hunting and fishing and loving every day.
That's not country.
SPEAKER_02 (25:27):
And I'm not taking away from the fact that he is
from the South.
He's from Georgia.
Like he, is a country boy.
Okay, fine.
But your music, like if we goback to the roots of country,
Dolly Parton, you've got, allthe other names are blanking on
me right now, but you've gotpeople from that generation
(25:48):
where country really came from,right?
UNKNOWN (25:52):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (25:52):
That's not this.
And that's okay.
SPEAKER_01 (25:56):
Can you call someone...
Like, what if Eminem startedrapping about living in the
South?
He's from Detroit.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
But that's kind of what'shappening, though.
SPEAKER_02 (26:09):
Right.
And, like, Shaboosie is anotherexample.
Shaboosie is country pop, right?
Like, all of his music, he sureis talking about things in
country life.
But the sound, right,
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
is
SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
pop.
SPEAKER_01 (26:26):
How is he talking about country life?
He lives in Woodbridge.
He's from Woodbridge.
SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
Well, I mean, we're from Virginia.
I'm
SPEAKER_01 (26:33):
not country.
SPEAKER_02 (26:34):
Well, a lot of people say that Virginia is the
country.
And
SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
I'm like,
SPEAKER_02 (26:39):
which part?
SPEAKER_01 (26:40):
Not D.C.
area.
SPEAKER_02 (26:41):
No, which Woodbridge is in.
But to that.
And the last one that I'll bringup is Chuck Morris.
This is a this is a new name tome.
He was on my Spotify radio listof new artists to listen to.
SPEAKER_01 (26:55):
You almost said Chuck Norris.
SPEAKER_02 (26:57):
Morris.
But he was actually rapping in acountry song.
SPEAKER_01 (27:05):
And
SPEAKER_02 (27:06):
I'm like, again, fine.
Country rap, maybe.
But if we go back to the rootsof what country was and is, then
you would see that it's Notthis.
SPEAKER_01 (27:21):
I just don't.
I don't.
Country isn't.
There's no such thing as countryanymore.
SPEAKER_02 (27:26):
That's what it feels like, honestly.
And A, that's kind of sad.
SPEAKER_01 (27:30):
Didn't Beyonce just do a country album?
SPEAKER_02 (27:33):
Well, again, she is from Texas.
She is from, I think it'sHouston.
And she has a background that Ibelieve many would say is a
country background.
So, sure.
Sure.
If that's who you are, but thesound of the song, which is
(27:54):
Texas Hold'em, I think is thesong.
But anyways, I've said it manytimes.
I'm not a huge Beyonce fan.
Anyways, but that song has moreof a pop
SPEAKER_01 (28:04):
sound.
That's all of it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:06):
And that's okay.
So it's country pop music.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
So I don't think
SPEAKER_02 (28:12):
what country music was exists anymore.
It doesn't.
SPEAKER_01 (28:15):
And that's kind of sad.
Yeah, I agree.
But I still like Hardy.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
I mean, I love Shaboosie.
I like the Chuck Morris song.
I like all the Hardy songs thatyou've been listening to.
Do
SPEAKER_01 (28:26):
you like the Beyonce song?
SPEAKER_02 (28:28):
I do.
It's catchy.
SPEAKER_01 (28:29):
Do you like it?
SPEAKER_02 (28:30):
I do.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
It's catchy.
I haven't even listened to itand I don't plan on it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:34):
Not your genre.
I get it.
But it is a very catchy song.
A lot of her music is catchy.
SPEAKER_01 (28:38):
No, that's not true.
I do listen to country nowbecause like Hardy.
SPEAKER_02 (28:42):
Get out.
SPEAKER_01 (28:43):
Just leave.
It doesn't make sense.
It's so weird.
SPEAKER_02 (28:46):
But to double down on country here, let's stick
with the South, right?
So I've been watching on Netflixthe new season of Dallas Cowboys
Cheerleaders.
It's an awesome show.
I love that show.
I watched it back when it was onCMT.
I have a dance background.
I used to dance.
So I love it.
(29:07):
I like watching the auditionsand Oh, I like watching the
auditions.
I like seeing them perform.
I really enjoy that show.
And one of the things they saidon the show really just caught
my interest, though.
They, as in the Dallas Cowboycheerleaders, I'm just going to
(29:27):
say specific to them because itwas on that show, were saying
that they have a very lowsalary, meaning they get paid...
Meaning they get paid as much asa Chick-fil-A worker.
So I'm assuming that meansminimum wage, right?
I don't see how they can expectmore.
(29:54):
So the way it was explained inthe show is they are their own
business unit.
They bring in their own funds,their own money, because they
sell Barbies, they sellcalendars, they sell uniforms.
SPEAKER_01 (30:04):
Go to events.
SPEAKER_02 (30:05):
Right.
They go to events, makeappearances, they get paid.
So that makes sense, right?
They're their own business unit.
But I can't imagine thatbusiness unit making so much
money that they could afford topay these dancers more than
that.
SPEAKER_01 (30:21):
I don't either.
They don't exist withoutfootball.
SPEAKER_02 (30:27):
True.
SPEAKER_01 (30:28):
Okay, there may be some people that go to the
football game to watch them.
That's fine.
But most people at a footballgame are there to watch
football.
SPEAKER_02 (30:41):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (30:43):
They are
SPEAKER_02 (30:43):
part of the experience, for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (30:46):
But that's why the football players make millions,
and they don't.
They're a sideshow.
I'm not insulting any of them.
They have skills.
SPEAKER_02 (31:00):
Right.
If you go to a concert, there isthe main event, and there are
opening
SPEAKER_01 (31:05):
acts.
Right.
They're an opening act.
Right.
It's the same with the WNBA andall that stuff.
It's like if you want moremoney, you need to go out there
and get more people to show up.
SPEAKER_02 (31:19):
To show up, to pay for your stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (31:21):
Buy merch.
Right.
All that.
You need more people to show upto your games because...
I don't know.
What's the Dallas Cowboys?
I think it was like 39,000people can fit in the Cowboys
Stadium or
SPEAKER_02 (31:34):
something like that.
Is it more than that?
They can fit five Astrodomesinside of the Dallas Cowboys
SPEAKER_01 (31:45):
Stadium.
I don't know what the number is.
It's huge.
I'm just saying you've got Xamount of people that go there
to see the football playersbuying tickets, buying merch,
buying food.
But then when you swap it overin obviously different arenas,
but if you swap it over to theWNBA, they're not filling
(32:07):
stands.
They're just not.
UNKNOWN (32:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (32:11):
It's not
SPEAKER_02 (32:11):
as popular as the NBA.
SPEAKER_01 (32:13):
It's not.
So people complaining about abusiness that isn't paying them
more doesn't make sense to me.
It's still a business.
SPEAKER_02 (32:24):
Yep.
Still has to make profit.
SPEAKER_01 (32:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:27):
At the end of the day.
SPEAKER_01 (32:28):
A football team is a business.
A basketball team is a business.
How can I pay you more than whatwe're making?
Right.
It makes no sense.
SPEAKER_02 (32:36):
Yep.
No, I agree.
In the amount of work that theydo out in their community, like
the outreach that they're doing,they do a lot, it seems, for
their Dallas community.
And I'm not trying to negatethat, but when you look at their
business unit, how much theybring in, their net revenue,
(32:58):
right?
And then they have to subtractall of their liabilities, which
is payroll.
I'm sure that is actuallyprobably taking up a good chunk
of the revenue.
And then whatever's left isprofit.
SPEAKER_01 (33:10):
Are they self-sufficient
SPEAKER_02 (33:12):
yes
SPEAKER_01 (33:12):
i see that's cool
SPEAKER_02 (33:14):
yeah they are self-sufficient but to your
point they are the opening actthey are part of the show right
they are not the main event
SPEAKER_01 (33:26):
yeah i mean if they want to make more money they
should go out and do events bythemselves
SPEAKER_02 (33:33):
Well, like, think of the Rockettes, right?
SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
Rockettes
SPEAKER_02 (33:36):
do a whole
SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
show.
Right.
Go do parades.
Go do sell tickets.
I wonder how much the Rockettesget paid.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just saying, though, to makemore money, you have to do more
events, not eight games a year.
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (33:51):
Well, and one of the things they also brought up in
the show is the Dallas Cowboycheerleaders have to be in the
community, right?
They have to be presentingthemselves in a way that they're
America's sweethearts.
And they all seem to do thatreally well.
However, there's a lot ofcontrol there.
(34:13):
by the Dallas Cowboys brand, ifyou will, as to what they're
involved in, right?
Rightfully so.
SPEAKER_01 (34:21):
Yeah, I mean, they're Dallas Cowboy
cheerleaders.
SPEAKER_02 (34:24):
Right.
They can't fraternize or dateany of the football players,
right?
That's one of the rules.
Well, I also have a personalfriend, real life, real life
scenario situation, who postedsomething on her social media
that she did amazing with thewriting, right?
It was very professionallywritten.
It was on her Her specific pageand the company that she worked
(34:47):
for did not agree with it, tookoffense to it.
So the idea that a company...
that you work for, organizationyou work for can control those
things or have a say in it even.
SPEAKER_01 (35:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (35:03):
Seems like a lot.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (35:05):
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
SPEAKER_02 (35:07):
A little overstepping there, but I
SPEAKER_01 (35:10):
mean, especially if you're in, you're not really in
a public facing position.
SPEAKER_02 (35:15):
Well, that's my question to you.
Do you think companies should beable to have an opinion on what
you post on social media or whatyou're involved in, who you
date?
Ooh, I see.
I
SPEAKER_01 (35:26):
don't know.
I'm trying to think because Ican see it going both ways.
It's job dependent.
If you are a public-facingperson, like you're the mayor of
something, and you got busteddating your assistant or
(35:47):
something like that, you'reprobably going to get in shit.
SPEAKER_02 (35:51):
Maybe.
Maybe.
Unless you're both unmarried andit's a...
SPEAKER_01 (35:56):
Okay, say it's a...
SPEAKER_02 (35:59):
Extramarital
SPEAKER_01 (36:00):
situation.
Yeah, say it's something that'sfrowned upon in this
establishment.
You're going to get in trouble.
SPEAKER_02 (36:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:09):
But I don't know.
It's strange to me.
I don't own a business.
UNKNOWN (36:16):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (36:17):
But I could also see where if I did own a business
and somebody was out there andthey were clearly associated
with my business being a fucker.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I just feel like I'd probablyshit can them.
(36:39):
Well.
And that's my right as abusiness owner.
SPEAKER_02 (36:41):
True.
SPEAKER_01 (36:42):
And that's your...
Okay, it's your right to postwhat you want.
But it's also my right to notlike what you post and ask you
to take it down.
And if you don't like it, then Icould let you go.
SPEAKER_02 (36:56):
Or vice versa.
You can leave, right?
Yeah, right, right.
Everyone has choices in thesituation of matter.
I guess...
In the specific situation andscenario with my friend, what
she posted about...
To me, it had no harm, no foulon anything that had to do with
where she was working.
(37:17):
So...
Sounds
SPEAKER_01 (37:19):
more like an excuse.
SPEAKER_02 (37:21):
Agreed.
It sounds like they were lookingfor something to complain about
with her and they foundsomething.
But she did what she felt wasbest in that situation.
She took down her post and leftit at that.
You know, moved on, essentially.
For sure.
But ultimately...
That damages the relationshipunless...
SPEAKER_01 (37:44):
Yeah, and that's when you go.
SPEAKER_02 (37:45):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (37:46):
Because it's like, all right, you guys are going to
stick your nose in all mybusiness.
Right.
I'm not here.
I'm not working right now.
Then it's your choice to leave.
SPEAKER_02 (37:54):
Well, on top of that, it's almost like...
It was one of her values.
I'm just going to say it.
It was about Pride Month.
She posted something about PrideMonth and the company didn't
agree with it and essentiallysaid that she shouldn't be
voicing those things on socialmedia.
SPEAKER_01 (38:12):
See, what?
SPEAKER_02 (38:14):
Right.
That's none of your business.
SPEAKER_01 (38:17):
No, and that has nothing to do with anything.
That's not disparaging toanybody.
SPEAKER_02 (38:22):
Right.
That has nothing to do with
SPEAKER_01 (38:24):
anything.
Yeah, see, that's different thanwhat I'm thinking.
I'm thinking Thank you.
You're going out in public andyou're...
SPEAKER_02 (38:31):
Bashing the company.
SPEAKER_01 (38:32):
No.
Yeah, you're vandalizingsomething.
This has nothing
SPEAKER_02 (38:34):
to do with the company, but it's like an
alignment of values wasn'tthere.
So for her, she left eventually.
But when she posted that, theyasked her to take it down.
And I think right there is whatbreaks the relationship.
We do not have aligned values.
SPEAKER_01 (38:54):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (38:54):
So I cannot be here.
SPEAKER_01 (38:56):
See, and that's the...
That's the beauty of the freemarket, though, is you can take
yourself elsewhere.
Now, that's easier said thandone, obviously.
But try to find something elsebecause that's messed up.
Things like that, you should notbe judged about that.
(39:18):
posts like that.
People are going to disagreewith you.
Everybody disagrees aboutsomething, but to get
reprimanded about Pride Month,really?
That's a little weird.
SPEAKER_02 (39:32):
It's a little much.
SPEAKER_01 (39:33):
That is truly none of your business.
Would they have said anything ifshe said
SPEAKER_02 (39:42):
Happy 4th of July.
SPEAKER_01 (39:43):
No, I'm happy.
I'm straight.
SPEAKER_02 (39:45):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (39:46):
Would they have said anything?
SPEAKER_02 (39:48):
Well,
SPEAKER_01 (39:48):
probably not.
SPEAKER_02 (39:49):
I mean, she, she is an ally to that community.
Not that she's, you know, in oneof the represented.
Right.
I understand.
Yeah.
But
SPEAKER_01 (40:00):
my point is, my point is though, is would they
have jumped or shit for sayingthe opposite?
SPEAKER_02 (40:07):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (40:08):
And I, I feel like they wouldn't have said
anything.
SPEAKER_02 (40:11):
Right.
And that's
SPEAKER_01 (40:12):
strange.
It's like, okay, if you don'twant to see what I'm posting,
then don't read it.
Especially things like that.
SPEAKER_02 (40:19):
And if it's not about your company.
SPEAKER_01 (40:21):
Right.
But like I said, unfortunatelyor fortunately, it can go both
ways depending on the situation.
They have the right to removeher.
Because
SPEAKER_02 (40:37):
That's sad.
SPEAKER_01 (40:38):
It's a free country and it's a free country for
them, too.
SPEAKER_02 (40:42):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (40:42):
The owners of that company can say, you know, I
don't like that.
SPEAKER_02 (40:45):
When it becomes a values thing, though, like it's
not even just shit talking thecompany.
It's a values thing.
And our company, the company andshe did not align.
Like you made that very clear.
SPEAKER_01 (40:58):
It's time for me to go.
SPEAKER_02 (40:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (41:00):
Clearly, it's time for me to go.
That's messed up, though.
I don't like that.
And I don't I it's messed up.
Because if you think about it,there's no real good way to
solve these kind of problems.
Nope.
Because if you say, well,companies shouldn't be able to
fire you for that.
Well, then that snowballs intothis huge cluster.
(41:22):
It's like, well, you're takingaway the freedom of the owner of
the company.
Or you're taking the freedomaway from your friend.
Right.
She's not allowed to do freespeech.
And it's like, well, yeah, sheis.
But that doesn't mean me as theowner of the company have to
agree.
SPEAKER_02 (41:43):
Unfortunately.
SPEAKER_01 (41:44):
Unfortunately.
For
SPEAKER_02 (41:45):
that specific scenario.
SPEAKER_01 (41:46):
Right.
And I'm not either side.
I
SPEAKER_02 (41:51):
understand.
SPEAKER_01 (41:52):
I'm not disclosing either side or whatever.
But it's kind of...
It's a slippery slope.
It is a very slippery slope.
And a segue from Slippery Slope.
SPEAKER_02 (42:03):
I don't know if I like segue from Slippery Slope.
SPEAKER_01 (42:07):
Louisiana just passed a law to post the...
SPEAKER_02 (42:10):
Whoa, that has nothing to do with the slippery
zone.
SPEAKER_01 (42:12):
Yes, it does.
Now let me get there.
Louisiana just passed a law topost the Ten Commandments in all
school classrooms.
SPEAKER_02 (42:22):
Was this voted on by the people?
SPEAKER_01 (42:23):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (42:26):
Good talk.
SPEAKER_01 (42:27):
But I'm just saying, they just passed a law.
So they're going to post the TenCommandments in classrooms.
What do you think about this?
SPEAKER_02 (42:37):
So first initial thought, was it voted on by the
people?
If it was voted on by thepeople, to me, that is what a
majority of people have votedfor, have voiced that they want.
So it should move forward.
(43:00):
Caveat to that, though, is ifindividuals who are not of that
faith, don't believe this shouldcontinue, they have the right to
challenge it.
You can take it to the LouisianaSupreme Court.
SPEAKER_01 (43:16):
Or do you say, I want my religious text posted on
the walls in all schools?
SPEAKER_02 (43:21):
They could very well do that, too.
SPEAKER_01 (43:24):
My issue, it's a First Amendment issue.
The government isn't supposed topromote or align themselves with
any religion.
SPEAKER_02 (43:35):
Freedom of religion.
Yep.
All religions are free.
SPEAKER_01 (43:38):
Right.
So they're doing, they'realigning themselves.
That is a government agency.
or a state government aligningthemselves with a religion.
I'm a Christian and I think thisis bullshit.
SPEAKER_02 (43:54):
I'm not going to disagree.
My caveat here is if the peoplevoted on it,
SPEAKER_01 (44:00):
the first amendment is very clear that the
government shall not.
SPEAKER_02 (44:04):
I understand.
But if the people voted on itand that's what they want, and
that's what lawmakers in thatstate said, okay, people said,
yes, we're going to pass thelaw.
Then our, judicial system needsto get involved and say whether
or not it's constitutional.
That is a constitutionalgovernment.
SPEAKER_01 (44:24):
In my opinion, it is not constitutional because your
state government is aligningitself with the religion.
Go to
SPEAKER_02 (44:32):
Louisiana and defend them.
SPEAKER_01 (44:34):
I don't think that's right.
There's a separation of churchand state.
You're clearly not separating.
We need
SPEAKER_02 (44:40):
to add another one at this point.
We need to have a separation ofchurch and state as well as a
separation of state and socialpolicy.
SPEAKER_01 (44:49):
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_02 (44:50):
We need complete separation of religion and
social policy from ourgovernment.
SPEAKER_01 (44:56):
It
SPEAKER_02 (44:57):
is insane how much they They're trying to control
and be involved in.
I'm on a soapbox now.
Let me come back down.
SPEAKER_01 (45:04):
So the first commandment is about God.
You won't believe in anotherGod, but this God.
SPEAKER_02 (45:14):
Right.
That is against other childrenwho are of other faiths.
Correct.
I understand
SPEAKER_01 (45:23):
that.
Like I said, I believe in theTen Commandments because I'm a
Christian.
Oh,
SPEAKER_02 (45:28):
I've got something to say about
SPEAKER_01 (45:29):
that.
However, to all these peoplethat are over there that don't
believe in Christianity or Jesusand things like that, it's like,
how does that make them feel?
SPEAKER_02 (45:40):
I'm getting so excited about this conversation.
SPEAKER_01 (45:42):
Okay, go.
SPEAKER_02 (45:42):
Okay.
On The Chosen, the new seasoncame out and the episode, I
can't remember which episode itis, but Jesus is explaining to
his disciples that the TenCommandments, yes, are the laws
of Moses.
They are very important, butthey do not trump anything that
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Jesus came on this earth to do.
We are Christians.
We've already said that.
Believe in Jesus.
Believe in Jesus.
Him saying that, like theexample was, but we're supposed
to honor our mother and father.
And Jesus says, you can honoryour mother and father, but not
before or above me.
Right.
(46:23):
Yes.
So.
Yes, you can put the TenCommandments in school if that's
what people voted on, but thejudicial system should be
getting involved because Jesussaid the Ten Commandments do not
come above him.
SPEAKER_01 (46:37):
It's just strange, though, how...
SPEAKER_02 (46:40):
I don't think that made any sense what I just
SPEAKER_01 (46:41):
said.
But it's strange how...
Because a lot of the people thatare supporters of this will get
super mad if another religionsaid, well, we want ours on the
wall, too.
True.
SPEAKER_02 (46:54):
Rules for me, but not for
SPEAKER_01 (46:56):
them.
It's like, no, no, no, no.
That's why you don't put any ofthat shit in school at all.
SPEAKER_02 (47:01):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (47:02):
And that's a home thing and a personal quest to go
on and learn about.
Yep.
It's not a school thing.
Right.
School's not there to teach youa religion.
And that actually, it reallydoes make me kind of angry.
Because that is not the placefor that.
SPEAKER_02 (47:23):
Agreed, I think.
SPEAKER_01 (47:24):
But it's also not the place for a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (47:27):
It's not the place for social policies.
SPEAKER_01 (47:29):
Exactly.
You teach me math.
Yep.
You teach me history.
And you teach me science.
Mm-hmm.
And English.
And then you send me home.
Yep.
That was the weirdest face I've
SPEAKER_02 (47:40):
ever seen.
It went away because you movedit.
SPEAKER_01 (47:44):
Well, yeah.
I just, I it's schools areturning into indoctrination
stations.
SPEAKER_02 (47:54):
When I feel like people would argue with you on
what you just said about teachme those basic fundamentals and
send me home because a lot ofkids aren't getting that at
home, aren't getting the socialtraining, aren't getting the
exposure to all of these otherthings that goes through life.
It's like, but that's a homeproblem.
SPEAKER_01 (48:15):
Yeah.
That's not a state issue.
Right.
You don't you don't then blanketsay, OK, everybody, every kid
that goes to public school nowhas to learn about all these
social issues and all thesereligious issues and all about.
No.
Right.
That's separate.
That is a home thing.
Yep.
And if it's not at home, they'lllearn it.
SPEAKER_02 (48:37):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (48:37):
Kids are freaking smart, man.
Ours is.
She catches up on stuff, andwe're like, uh-oh.
SPEAKER_02 (48:43):
If they have screens, they'll figure it out.
I promise.
SPEAKER_01 (48:46):
Yeah.
It's just wild, though, thatthey're thinking that this is a
good idea.
Like I said, I'm a Christianperson.
I don't think public schools, astate-run thing...
or a government-run thing shouldbe involved in religion or
social issues.
SPEAKER_02 (49:06):
For sure.
Sure.
So I had a dream the othernight.
SPEAKER_01 (49:12):
Oh, God.
Did I get punched when you wokeup?
SPEAKER_02 (49:16):
No.
I am a very vivid dreamer.
I have been that way since...
Honestly, as long as I canremember.
SPEAKER_01 (49:24):
Yeah, you've sat up in the bed and typed.
SPEAKER_02 (49:29):
I used to work at a hotel, and yes, I was checking
in.
Whatever we called him.
A guest.
Thank you.
A guest to the hotel.
I sat up, and I was like, howcan I help you?
SPEAKER_01 (49:40):
Yeah.
Damn, you should call them upand get overtime.
Checking people in from thehouse.
SPEAKER_02 (49:46):
That was one of my first big girl jobs, and it was
very stressful.
But most recently, how detailedDo you remember things from your
dreams?
Because...
SPEAKER_01 (49:56):
Rarely.
SPEAKER_02 (49:57):
Literally, I had to look this up.
I had a dream about an address.
A full address.
Don't know what city, state, orzip I was in, but it was 4755
Moshell.
I can't remember if it wasDrive, Court, Street, but
something.
(50:17):
Something.
SPEAKER_01 (50:19):
Did you look it up?
SPEAKER_02 (50:19):
I did.
It doesn't exist.
SPEAKER_01 (50:22):
Okay, good.
SPEAKER_02 (50:23):
It doesn't exist, but it was the strangest thing
that it was in my head when Iwoke up, and I had to look it
up.
I had to.
SPEAKER_01 (50:33):
I don't think I've ever been able to remember that
much about my dreams.
SPEAKER_02 (50:38):
Oh, my gosh.
It was insane that an addressstuck in my head.
It's
SPEAKER_01 (50:45):
kind of weird.
Right?
Yeah.
A little crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (50:50):
Aw, you almost didn't answer and I was going to
congratulate you.
Okay.
Have you heard about the HawkTua girl?
I
SPEAKER_01 (51:03):
did.
I don't know how you couldn'thave heard about Hawk Tua girl.
That's how you should have askedme.
Have you not heard about theHawk Tua girl?
SPEAKER_02 (51:13):
Uh-huh.
Yeah, she's very popular rightnow.
SPEAKER_01 (51:15):
Yeah, she's a living meme.
SPEAKER_02 (51:18):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I don't even know what to sayabout it, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_01 (51:26):
I thought...
People are dogging her like herdad's going to be so proud.
It's like, honestly, she wasbeing funny
SPEAKER_02 (51:33):
and
SPEAKER_01 (51:33):
it was funny.
SPEAKER_02 (51:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (51:35):
I thought that was funny as shit.
And everybody's like, oh, thehook to a girl's dad is like,
you know, I'm like,
SPEAKER_02 (51:42):
but it's just being funny,
SPEAKER_01 (51:44):
man.
And
SPEAKER_02 (51:44):
all of the music that's out there today, there
are work.
WAP, for
SPEAKER_01 (51:51):
example.
Well, and how many girls are anddudes are on OnlyFans and all
that?
shit selling access to their...
Hoctuas.
Hoctuas.
But it's just weird, though.
It's like...
You guys are dogging this girlabout being freaking...
(52:11):
I thought it was hilarious, tobe honest with you.
But being really funny...
SPEAKER_02 (52:14):
But who actually does that Hoctua sound?
I've never heard
SPEAKER_01 (52:20):
a Hoctua.
If you Hoctuad me, I would befucking pissed.
Because that's disrespectful.
SPEAKER_02 (52:30):
Oh, God.
SPEAKER_01 (52:31):
That's Lugian.
Oh,
SPEAKER_02 (52:33):
right?
That's what I thought, too.
Like, she's talking about aLugian.
SPEAKER_01 (52:37):
That's not...
SPEAKER_02 (52:38):
That's not like just a friendly...
No,
SPEAKER_01 (52:41):
she's a...
That's nasty.
SPEAKER_02 (52:45):
You're about to become your own little meme.
That's okay.
You're going to be immortalized.
SPEAKER_01 (52:49):
I'm just saying, that's disrespectful.
No Hawk 2N over here.
That's vile.
SPEAKER_02 (52:55):
I've got a final thought for you.
SPEAKER_01 (52:57):
Final?
SPEAKER_02 (52:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (52:58):
Podcast over?
SPEAKER_02 (52:59):
Before it's over.
Do you hug with your eyes openor closed?
SPEAKER_01 (53:05):
I don't know.
That's a weird question.
SPEAKER_02 (53:12):
So going back to the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders,
they all hug a lot in all ofthose episodes.
And some of the girls have theireyes open.
Some of them have them closed.
And I'm like, oh, no.
What do I do?
SPEAKER_01 (53:24):
I feel like my eyes are open.
SPEAKER_02 (53:27):
I
SPEAKER_01 (53:27):
feel like.
Yeah, I feel like my eyes areopen because I'm always looking
out for like ninjas in the woodsand shit.
SPEAKER_02 (53:35):
Ninjas in the woods
SPEAKER_01 (53:36):
when you're hugging somebody in the house.
Fucking weird stray cats outhere in Florida.
You hug our
SPEAKER_02 (53:42):
daughter before she goes to school.
SPEAKER_01 (53:44):
Looking all over.
Where's our cat Benny?
Yeah, I'm always on high alert.
I'm serious.
I'm terrified.
SPEAKER_02 (53:52):
So now I'm going to be very conscious as to whether
my eyes are open or closed.
SPEAKER_01 (53:55):
You're going to just do it
SPEAKER_02 (53:56):
like this.
SPEAKER_01 (53:58):
I'm both.
SPEAKER_02 (53:59):
I'm going to watch out for the ninjas.
SPEAKER_01 (54:01):
All
SPEAKER_02 (54:04):
right.
SPEAKER_01 (54:05):
So we have swapped hosts again.
Oh, we went to we are now on.
Let me just let me just back itup here.
SPEAKER_02 (54:15):
Yeah, do that.
SPEAKER_01 (54:18):
To manage a podcast, it takes a lot of tools, right?
SPEAKER_02 (54:23):
You were very good at it.
SPEAKER_01 (54:24):
Yeah, we had a Patreon.
We had a website and then we hada host.
Two or three separate tools andthey all cost money and they
aren't cheap.
Well, Substack is all three ofthose tools in one.
So we've got a website throughSubstack and now we have our
(54:44):
Patreon membership.
It's not really a Patreonmembership anymore, but that's
through Substack too.
And they host our podcast andvideo episodes.
Please, please sign up.
No, you don't have to pay us,but sign up for our newsletter
it helps us kind of raise up inthe sub stack rankings it's kind
of nice and you get you can signup for free it'll still send you
(55:09):
our weekly or bi-weekly updatesand episodes and we're also
going to start posting some blogtype stuff there too because
it's kind of fun you know whatI'm saying but we're also this
is the thing we're going to dosome specials yeah VIP or paid
subscriber only episodes to kindof entice you into joining,
(55:33):
giving us some money.
What did you want to call theVIP membership?
SPEAKER_02 (55:39):
I don't remember.
SPEAKER_01 (55:40):
Unfiltered heathens or something like that?
No.
SPEAKER_02 (55:44):
What?
SPEAKER_01 (55:45):
You lied to me.
SPEAKER_02 (55:46):
Free opinions?
I don't know.
It's still on the whiteboard.
The heathens were better.
Thanks.
My first idea was better.
Okay, gotcha.
SPEAKER_00 (55:57):
Love you.
Thanks for tuning in to theUnfiltered Union podcast.
If you liked what you heardtoday, be sure to hit that
subscribe button to keep up withour latest episodes.
Thanks for being a part of theUnfiltered Filtered Union
Family.
The Unfiltered Union Podcast.
Fifty.
SPEAKER_02 (00:10):
You turned 50?
SPEAKER_01 (00:11):
50th episode.
SPEAKER_02 (00:13):
Oh, gotcha.
SPEAKER_01 (00:16):
I'm Linz.
I would hope that you know howold I am.
We've been married for 76 years.
And you're?
35.
SPEAKER_02 (00:26):
I said I'm Linz.
SPEAKER_01 (00:31):
I'm just already starting off very nice.
I'm Russ.
SPEAKER_02 (00:35):
Thanks.
There we go.
Okay.
50th episode.
SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
Yeah, I can't believe it.
SPEAKER_02 (00:40):
Does that include when we tried this back in 2016?
SPEAKER_01 (00:46):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (00:47):
Okay.
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (00:48):
Well, the thing though is we have a lot more.
We have a bunch that were awful.
I'm not saying the content wasawful.
SPEAKER_02 (00:58):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (00:58):
The quality was awful because we had no idea
what We just did it.
SPEAKER_02 (01:03):
And we didn't have a studio like we have today.
This ain't
SPEAKER_01 (01:06):
really a studio.
Look at our backgrounddecorations.
SPEAKER_02 (01:10):
You did such a good job.
SPEAKER_01 (01:11):
It's a pair of headphones.
SPEAKER_02 (01:13):
It looks so
SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
good.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_02 (01:43):
Don't
SPEAKER_01 (01:45):
go to
SPEAKER_02 (01:47):
HR.
I'm going to use my hands.
You and I talk about what'shappening in the world or with
us, but it always comes back towe can have our own opinions and
still be married
SPEAKER_01 (01:59):
at the end of the day.
And not get mad.
Right.
Well, I mean, we do get mad.
SPEAKER_02 (02:02):
Not at each other, though.
SPEAKER_01 (02:05):
Well, we get over it.
SPEAKER_02 (02:06):
Right.
You don't have to end yourmarriage or end your friendship
or end your friendship online.
just because you don't agreewith somebody.
SPEAKER_01 (02:15):
For sure.
I don't know why you would.
SPEAKER_02 (02:17):
Well, people do, and they're crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (02:19):
I don't get it.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
Let's kick it off with our kid who got her ears
pierced this weekend.
SPEAKER_01 (02:25):
Super random.
She asked this week.
We've been asking her ever sinceshe was born.
We asked her as an infant, doyou want your ears pierced?
No, we did not.
She said, yeah, you know, aftershe shat herself.
But, no, we've been asking herfor a long time, and she never
wanted to, because she's afraid,of course.
That's scary to kids.
Needles.
SPEAKER_02 (02:45):
Well, we don't lie to her.
We show her videos of otherpeople doing it.
We explain the process.
I never want my child to beuneducated about a decision
she's about to make.
SPEAKER_01 (02:56):
Right.
For sure.
And she finally came up to usthis week and said, I want to go
get my ears pierced.
And we're like, we'll take youthis weekend.
And we went and I was going tobet money that she was going to
chicken out at the last second.
And she didn't.
SPEAKER_02 (03:12):
It was the sushi.
SPEAKER_01 (03:13):
Yeah.
You can buy that kid off withsushi.
It's the weirdest thing I'veever seen, but you can
definitely buy this kid off withsushi.
She's
SPEAKER_02 (03:20):
nine
SPEAKER_01 (03:21):
and
SPEAKER_02 (03:22):
loves sushi.
SPEAKER_01 (03:22):
And we're not talking just California roll.
We're talking raw fish on top ofa chunk of rice.
SPEAKER_02 (03:29):
Yep.
Tuna sushi.
SPEAKER_01 (03:30):
Yeah.
Tuna sushi.
She loves tuna.
Raw tuna or salmon.
She's a big salmon fan.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (03:39):
But we went to the mall and we did the Claire's
route, you know, hate us if youwant.
But I think for me, that's whereI got all of my piercings done.
I've never had an issue.
So that's the route she wantedto go as well because she wanted
to buy additional earrings whilewe were there.
SPEAKER_01 (03:53):
Oh, and they were very caring about how she felt.
We said, if you're going to doit, you have to do it right.
You have to get both pierced.
And they said, oh, don't worryabout that because we'll have
two people doing it, which wassuper nice because not Not
just...
Her chickening out, but gettingone done and being like, ow,
that hurt.
Yeah, I'm not doing the otherone, which would suck.
SPEAKER_02 (04:16):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (04:17):
Because she wants both.
Well, they brought a secondperson in and they did
everything at once.
SPEAKER_02 (04:23):
Yep.
And it went really well.
There was no tears.
She didn't even cry.
I know.
SPEAKER_01 (04:29):
She's stronger than me.
SPEAKER_02 (04:32):
No, she bossed it, let's just say.
But while we were there, herthing is also escalators, but as
long as She gets to ride acouple escalators.
She's happy at the mall.
SPEAKER_01 (04:42):
Other than Claire's, the trip was free.
I mean, food, but you have toeat.
The trip was free.
She loves escalators.
And that's free.
Go to Macy's and ride thefucking escalator up and down
and you're good to go.
SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
She was happy.
But what surprised me is she andmy daughter, she and my
daughter, my daughter and I,goodness, we go to the mall very
sparingly.
Typically, it's like short-termstuff, like from Christmas or to
just get out of the house for abit, ride the escalators, get
(05:16):
sushi.
But other than that, we don'tventure out to the mall very
often.
And most of the time, it hasbeen pretty, not empty, but
there aren't many people there.
Today, it was bumping.
SPEAKER_01 (05:28):
Oh, yeah.
It was packed.
That food court, you had to belucky to find a seat.
SPEAKER_02 (05:34):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (05:35):
Which was good.
I like seeing that becausepeople...
Even though the economy is notreally good, people are still, I
guess they're trying, you know,trying to go out and about and
do things with their familiesbecause it's expensive.
SPEAKER_02 (05:51):
For sure.
SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
Claire's cost us, what was it,$85 just for the
piercing?
SPEAKER_02 (05:55):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (05:56):
I mean, we did upgrade the earring, but we
wanted to make sure she got,what is it called?
SPEAKER_02 (06:02):
Gold.
SPEAKER_01 (06:03):
Gold, because it's anti-allergen or whatever.
SPEAKER_02 (06:06):
Right.
It's supposed to be more forsensitive ears.
But...
There's lots of debate as towhat Claire's provides, but it
all came down to her choice asto where and what to do after.
But ultimately the fact that themall was so packed, I feel like
there were a lot of peoplethere.
(06:27):
And I keep hearing that mallsare dying, right?
Like malls are becoming a thingof the past.
They were big when they firstcame out in the seventies,
eighties.
And then, you know, throughoutmy childhood, I was at the mall
every week.
weekend
SPEAKER_01 (06:40):
oh my god not just your childhood when we started
dating at you were 14 14 I was15 you were at the mall every
week I remember calling you onSaturdays I'll call you right
back I'm at the mall I'm likehow the fuck do you have so much
money
SPEAKER_02 (06:56):
we didn't it was just the thing to do something
to do kind of like when I takeour kiddo out it's you know go
go out have lunch and right nowe didn't have escalators at our
mall in Virginia but anyways uhSo the idea that malls are
dying, I'm like, that doesn'tseem like that's proof.
SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
I don't.
Yeah.
Today kind of changed my mind.
So what I think about that ismaybe that high rent type deal
is dying.
Like, I couldn't imagine therent at a mall.
But a store owner, maybe theyjust couldn't afford.
I don't know.
I keep spinning it around incircles with this because I feel
(07:37):
like.
Most businesses can't affordthat massive high mall rent, I
would assume, especially in theeconomy the way it is right now.
So is that what they're talkingabout?
Malls dying because the peoplethat own the malls are like, I'm
not making any money anymorebecause people don't want to pay
this rent.
SPEAKER_02 (07:56):
I feel like that kind of goes back and forth with
the idea of COVID, right?
And remote work that people wantstill today want jobs of remote
work.
Companies are like, we've spentbillions of dollars on in You're
bringing your asses back.
SPEAKER_01 (08:11):
Yeah, well, that's not...
I don't know.
That's not good.
I don't think that...
I think it should be a choice.
SPEAKER_02 (08:21):
Well, I agree, but I'm just saying, like, when you
think of the idea ofinfrastructure, if a mall
already is built, right, and youessentially are renting out to
tenants, so you're saying thathigh rent...
Is a thing of the past.
SPEAKER_01 (08:37):
I don't know.
I'm just guessing.
I don't know if that's what theymean.
Because what I saw today, mallsain't going nowhere.
That place was freaking packed.
SPEAKER_02 (08:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (08:46):
And people were in every single store we walked by.
Claire's was packed.
SPEAKER_02 (08:51):
Yeah.
Was there a tax refund?
Could it be tax refund?
No.
SPEAKER_01 (08:55):
I don't even
SPEAKER_02 (08:55):
think it's tax free weekend.
I
SPEAKER_01 (08:58):
know that because of the hurricane stuff down here in
Florida, they do like a tax freemonth or something.
But
SPEAKER_02 (09:05):
that's on generators and I forget what else.
No.
No, but speaking of things beingexpensive, you told me today
about Amazon.
SPEAKER_01 (09:17):
Yeah, Amazon Alexa.
SPEAKER_02 (09:21):
Not in here.
SPEAKER_01 (09:23):
They are...
From what I read, they'replanning on charging something
for the next generation ofAlexa, which is all this
generative AI.
your chat GPTs, your largelanguage model type assistance,
not just Alexa, turn my lightsoff type shit.
(09:46):
It's like you can converse withit, things of that nature.
They're supposedly they'retalking about there's going to
be a price tag for it.
Now, some people have said fivebucks and some people have said
all the way up to ten bucks.
I feel like Amazon fumbled sohard on this generative AI
stuff.
It is mind boggling.
(10:08):
They have I'm pretty surethey're the number one home
speaker type deal.
You know, Amazon Alexa typeshit.
They're the number one retailerfor that.
You have literally millions ofthese units in people's houses.
SPEAKER_02 (10:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (10:27):
You should have been the first company out there to
release some kind of generativeAI on those things.
SPEAKER_02 (10:34):
Well, it sounds like they're still going to be.
Yeah, but
SPEAKER_01 (10:36):
they're late.
Now it's like...
It...
They're late and they're notdoing it.
Like charging money for it isnuts.
SPEAKER_02 (10:47):
But if they're trying to put a device in your
house, whole new device, it's anApple play, right?
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
No, they're not doing whole.
It's not going to need whole newdevices.
It's all server based.
Oh, all your devices that youhave.
That's what I'm saying.
Everybody that has an Alexa, I'mpretty sure has the capability
of this new large languagemodel.
SPEAKER_02 (11:07):
So you're like upgrading your software on your
existing, Echo.
SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
It sends all your queries to the cloud.
Yeah, it sends all your queriesto the cloud, so it can work on
essentially anything.
So the fact that they are...
SPEAKER_02 (11:25):
So it's essentially software as a service.
Right.
That you can put on any device.
SPEAKER_01 (11:33):
Well, you can put...
It's going to be a pay-forupgrade for your existing Alexa
devices.
SPEAKER_02 (11:40):
Okay, so I guess I don't understand what the
benefit would be.
SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
Well, you could ask it a lot of different things and
converse with it, like say, hey,my wife's birthday's tomorrow.
Give me 10 good ideas for abirthday party that
SPEAKER_02 (11:59):
are
SPEAKER_01 (12:00):
local to blah, blah, blah.
And it will spit it out.
It's smart.
It's a really good freakingidea.
But why aren't they...
They should be moving a lotfaster than they are.
Everybody else is.
SPEAKER_02 (12:14):
When I think of the AI, chat, GPT, those type
things, those are more for...
What do I want to say?
When you ask Alexa a question, Idon't want to make it go off in
our house.
If you ask it a question,then...
your response that you get back,it's already searching the web,
(12:35):
right?
So to me, the chat GPT becomesmore about like deep dive
prompts, I guess.
So if you're doing a researchpaper, like it can help you with
a research paper.
If you're doing just, how do youfix an Excel formula?
I've done that.
SPEAKER_01 (12:53):
Smart way to do it though.
SPEAKER_02 (12:55):
Well, I know, but like putting that on your echo
dot, we'll call them in yourhouse, which is an Amazon
product, what benefit do youhave of that versus what it
already does?
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
Well, I think part of it is like what I said.
You could ask questions likethat.
You could say, hey, give meseven different action movies or
something like that fromdifferent eras that I can add to
my playlist.
Anything, really.
It'll integrate with your musicsoftware.
Make a playlist for Tay-Tay.
SPEAKER_02 (13:31):
I am starting to feel like such an old person.
SPEAKER_01 (13:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (13:36):
I'm not even kidding.
Like, how are you going to usethat technology?
Like, that's how I feel.
SPEAKER_01 (13:41):
Yeah, but it's got a lot.
I don't even know how much,like, what else the Alexa can do
and, you know, the next-genAlexa can do inside of your
house.
But it's mostly, I would assumeit's mostly things that you can
already do with Google.
Yeah.
search and things like that, butinstead of typing, you just
(14:05):
talk.
You converse in natural languageinstead of...
going to Google and say, find mefive things to do tonight in
Tampa.
SPEAKER_02 (14:16):
I guess.
I'm old.
We said it at the beginning.
We're in our mid-30s, and I justfeel
SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
like we're
SPEAKER_02 (14:25):
getting so old with how all this technology is being
used and implemented.
It was all about smart homes afew years ago.
The Echo Dots were a thing.
SPEAKER_01 (14:35):
That's why I think they're fumbling hard.
Because they were pre...
They were like, you're a smarthome hub.
And now they're trying to moveit into this generative AI
stuff.
And it's like, you should havedone that a year ago.
SPEAKER_02 (14:52):
Maybe probably true.
But I don't know.
I just...
what, what difference?
It doesn't feel like adifference that from what it
does now.
SPEAKER_01 (15:03):
It's smarter.
Okay,
SPEAKER_02 (15:04):
fine.
SPEAKER_01 (15:05):
Instead of, instead of, cause you know, half the
time you say, Alexa, tell mewho, who was born last month.
You know, what famous peoplewere born last month.
Half the time.
It's like dirt.
Well,
SPEAKER_02 (15:15):
it's a contributor.
SPEAKER_01 (15:17):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
This
SPEAKER_02 (15:18):
response.
SPEAKER_01 (15:18):
But now it's like real time searching the web,
pulling in data.
It's, it's, it's really cool.
SPEAKER_02 (15:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:26):
But I, Yeah.
Personally would not pay$10 oreven$5 a month for that.
I'm not doing it.
I use my phone.
SPEAKER_02 (15:34):
Yeah, at this point.
Because I guess that's yourpoint, right?
They've missed the mark.
Yeah.
And you just will use your phonebecause it's readily available.
SPEAKER_01 (15:42):
Exactly.
Everybody's got a phone.
Most people have.
And look, Apple's doing Appleintelligence, which cracks me up
so bad.
Again,
SPEAKER_02 (15:53):
I just feel so.
SPEAKER_01 (15:55):
Yeah, that's the thing now.
It's AI arms races.
Yeah, but they're the
SPEAKER_02 (16:00):
only ones charging for it so far.
SPEAKER_01 (16:02):
Amazon?
SPEAKER_02 (16:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (16:03):
No, they're all charging.
Well, Apple's not going tocharge for it.
Google charges for GeminiAdvanced, and ChatGPT has a
ChatGPT Plus plan.
SPEAKER_02 (16:16):
Is Copilot built into Microsoft?
UNKNOWN (16:20):
No.
SPEAKER_01 (16:20):
It is, but you have to pay for it.
If you have Microsoft Copilotfor your business, I think it's
an extra cost per user.
I think it's actually prettyexpensive, too.
It's like$30 a month per user.
SPEAKER_02 (16:34):
Geez.
SPEAKER_01 (16:35):
I think.
SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
Well, guess what else is going up in price?
SPEAKER_01 (16:39):
Life.
SPEAKER_02 (16:41):
That's a good answer.
Spotify.
SPEAKER_01 (16:44):
Yeah, that's bullshit, man.
I'm about sick of them.
SPEAKER_02 (16:48):
We use Spotify.
Oh,
SPEAKER_01 (16:50):
I love it.
SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
Even our kiddo has it.
She's got the Spotify kidsversion.
SPEAKER_01 (16:54):
I
SPEAKER_02 (16:55):
mean, we have it for our family
SPEAKER_01 (16:57):
and we have a family plan.
SPEAKER_02 (16:59):
Right.
And it's it's good.
I love it because it has all ofour like songs ever.
Right.
Ever.
SPEAKER_01 (17:07):
That's the issue.
SPEAKER_02 (17:08):
And I well, I can't imagine not having that.
SPEAKER_01 (17:13):
So I have found services that will transfer your
playlists and your like songs toanother service.
SPEAKER_02 (17:21):
So one thing you need to know about Russ,
technology is his thing, right?
You're all about technology andyou love finding the new best
thing.
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Me nerd.
SPEAKER_02 (17:31):
Yeah, but when we switch profiles over and over
again, I've lost things in thepast.
It's not my fault.
No, I'm not saying that I'm notsaying it's your fault.
I'm saying that I've lost it.
I don't want to lose my songs.
SPEAKER_01 (17:45):
I know.
That's why we do the servicesthat allow the transfer.
I've done it with Apple Musicbefore.
SPEAKER_02 (17:52):
Or we just bite the bullet and we keep Spotify.
SPEAKER_01 (17:55):
I want to switch out of principle right now.
I
SPEAKER_02 (17:59):
understand.
SPEAKER_01 (17:59):
Because it's a constant.
It hasn't stayed the same price.
It seems like they increase itonce a year now.
I
SPEAKER_02 (18:07):
don't...
I feel like everybody's doingthat, though.
Not only Spotify, Netflix isdoing it.
You've got Amazon Prime.
All of these subscriptionservices are just going up.
SPEAKER_01 (18:20):
I don't
SPEAKER_02 (18:20):
understand why.
Are you not meeting yoursubscriber count?
SPEAKER_01 (18:25):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (18:26):
I can't imagine that's true.
SPEAKER_01 (18:29):
But they wonder why people are cutting the cord and
not having cable TV.
It's like, that stuff is sofreaking expensive.
And we are being subscribed todeath.
Everything's a subscriptionanymore.
SPEAKER_02 (18:42):
It's like rent.
SPEAKER_01 (18:44):
If you cancel Spotify, boom, your music
library's gone.
That's crap.
You own nothing.
SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
I would be very sad.
I would probably slip into adeep, dark depression.
No, I'm just kidding.
SPEAKER_01 (18:59):
It's just weird, though, that that's how
everything is now.
Even gaming is like that.
SPEAKER_02 (19:06):
Yeah, you said that before.
You don't own games
SPEAKER_01 (19:08):
anymore.
You don't own games there was agame that just I can't remember
it came out a couple years agoor whatever but they just closed
down the servers it's like okaythen let me play a single player
no it requires an onlineconnection to the server to play
so you can't even play that gameanymore at all even if You want
to just play it by yourself.
You cannot play it, even thoughyou bought it.
SPEAKER_02 (19:29):
That's sad.
SPEAKER_01 (19:31):
It's a bunch of crap.
I remember going to the freakingstore, buying a disc, sticking
it in the console, and I couldplay that thing whenever I
wanted.
SPEAKER_02 (19:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (19:39):
Unplug the internet from it, and I could still play
it.
Not anymore.
SPEAKER_02 (19:46):
Sad.
SPEAKER_01 (19:48):
I don't like it.
It's kind of freaky to me.
SPEAKER_02 (19:51):
You don't own anything
SPEAKER_01 (19:52):
anymore.
You own nothing.
I think the World WEF, what isit?
SPEAKER_02 (19:59):
World Environmental Federation?
SPEAKER_01 (20:01):
Something like that.
SPEAKER_02 (20:02):
Water Environmental
SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
Federation?
No, I think it's World.
Okay, regardless.
Anyway, WEF, I think they saidsomething like that.
They had a quote on theirwebsite.
In the future, you will ownnothing and you'll be happy.
SPEAKER_02 (20:16):
That's a very philosophical thing to say.
Because if you think about it,does it mean less responsibility
or more responsibility?
Who has the responsibility?
There's a lot to unpack there.
SPEAKER_01 (20:27):
You own nothing?
That's not good.
SPEAKER_02 (20:31):
I know, but is it a shifting of responsibility?
Is it I have responsibility orno more responsibility because I
don't own it?
It's like the idea of who isresponsible, where does that go?
SPEAKER_01 (20:41):
No, it means if you stop paying your car.
I understand
SPEAKER_02 (20:44):
fundamentally what it means.
SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
It's messed up.
SPEAKER_02 (20:46):
But philosophically.
But
SPEAKER_01 (20:48):
then again, as of right now, you technically don't
really own anything, even if youpay your freaking house off.
SPEAKER_02 (20:55):
I mean, depending on what state you live in, but if
you pay your car off, you stillpay taxes.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (21:01):
Why?
SPEAKER_02 (21:02):
Lord knows.
SPEAKER_01 (21:03):
It's not right.
SPEAKER_02 (21:05):
Back to Spotify.
So, yeah, all the services aredoing it.
I personally can't imagine nothaving my liked songs.
I understand their services, butI can't imagine not having
Spotify.
SPEAKER_01 (21:20):
Well, I like Spotify's interface a lot.
And that's my biggest issue isI've tried Apple Music.
Wasn't much of a fan of theirinterface, but it's something I
can work through.
Can you?
And YouTube music is actually,they've got a family plan and it
actually includes ad-freeYouTube.
(21:41):
So I was thinking, you know, ifI have to pay that, it's going
to be like 21 bucks a month forus, I think, because of taxes.
Why not just pay an extra dollarand have YouTube ad-free
included?
Because we watch a lot ofYouTube.
SPEAKER_02 (21:56):
We will talk about the budgetary standpoint of that
maybe off camera.
SPEAKER_01 (22:00):
We're about to
SPEAKER_02 (22:01):
fight.
No, it's not a fight.
It's not a fight.
Spotify is probably going to bethe same cost as what you're
just talking about.
So you're talking about onprinciple again.
SPEAKER_01 (22:08):
I'm talking about on principle and you get more bang
for your buck with YouTubemusic.
Ad-free YouTube is shit.
SPEAKER_02 (22:16):
Fair.
I want to shift gears.
Not totally, but a little bithere.
The idea of music, right?
You and I have talked about thisa lot.
We enjoy music in general.
Like if you look at our likedsongs, we do it every year,
right?
One of our podcasts is let's gothrough our, what do they call
(22:37):
it?
The wrap up.
SPEAKER_01 (22:38):
Yeah.
Spotify wrap up, which we won'tget anymore because we're
canceling it.
Stop it.
SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
So we do the wrap up every year and our playlists are
pretty diverse.
I mean, your, leans a littleheavy on our nine-year-old
because she does use yours.
To play music throughout thehouse is just what it's tied to.
But anyways, mine is verydiverse, wouldn't you say?
SPEAKER_01 (22:59):
Yeah, you're weird.
SPEAKER_02 (23:01):
I like it all.
I'm talking classical music,jazz all the way through,
country rock, rap.
SPEAKER_01 (23:06):
Spoons.
SPEAKER_02 (23:08):
I do like folk.
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
Charlie Marks is good.
SPEAKER_02 (23:12):
He really is.
So when we think about countrymusic, you and I have talked
about this a lot.
I
SPEAKER_01 (23:20):
know exactly who you're going to talk about, too.
SPEAKER_02 (23:22):
No.
It doesn't have to be just thatone individual artist.
I want to talk about it as abroad landscape.
Country music, to me, is havingan identity crisis.
SPEAKER_01 (23:34):
There's no such thing as country music anymore.
SPEAKER_02 (23:37):
Right.
I feel like we have very smallsubcategories of country music
now, and there's not one truesound of country music anymore.
Maybe that's not a bad thing,but...
When I hear songs...
SPEAKER_01 (23:55):
By who?
SPEAKER_02 (23:56):
By Hardy.
Which is your new favoriteartist right now.
Even our kiddo likes Hardy.
SPEAKER_01 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (24:03):
But when you hear songs by Hardy, or when I do, I
don't automatically thinkcountry.
SPEAKER_01 (24:09):
I never think country.
Okay, there's a couple that maysound...
They even don't sound country.
It's like more of that poppy
SPEAKER_02 (24:18):
stuff.
And he talks about redneck life.
He talks about...
country live in, but...
SPEAKER_01 (24:25):
It's not country.
SPEAKER_02 (24:27):
The actual sounds are not country.
There is no...
Regular guitar.
It is an electric guitar.
SPEAKER_01 (24:36):
And it's metal.
SPEAKER_02 (24:37):
Right.
It is metal.
SPEAKER_01 (24:39):
He screams.
He growls.
SPEAKER_02 (24:41):
Is there double bass?
Because I feel like there should
SPEAKER_01 (24:45):
be.
I think there is in some of hisstuff.
SPEAKER_02 (24:48):
Right.
So to me, Hardy is more, ifwe're going to call him country,
he's country rock or countrymetal.
SPEAKER_01 (24:58):
I saw somebody call him Tennessee new metal.
SPEAKER_02 (25:02):
Okay.
See,
SPEAKER_01 (25:04):
new metal.
Nashville new metal.
Okay.
I think is what they said.
I guess, I don't know.
He's not country.
He's
SPEAKER_02 (25:10):
not the only one, though.
He's not the only one in
SPEAKER_01 (25:12):
country music.
Brian isn't country.
SPEAKER_02 (25:14):
He is pop,
SPEAKER_01 (25:15):
right?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (25:16):
And you have, Shaboosie is a new one.
SPEAKER_01 (25:18):
Just because you sing about country stuff doesn't
make you country.
SPEAKER_02 (25:23):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (25:23):
Like hunting and fishing and loving every day.
That's not country.
SPEAKER_02 (25:27):
And I'm not taking away from the fact that he is
from the South.
He's from Georgia.
Like he, is a country boy.
Okay, fine.
But your music, like if we goback to the roots of country,
Dolly Parton, you've got, allthe other names are blanking on
me right now, but you've gotpeople from that generation
(25:48):
where country really came from,right?
UNKNOWN (25:52):
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (25:52):
That's not this.
And that's okay.
SPEAKER_01 (25:56):
Can you call someone...
Like, what if Eminem startedrapping about living in the
South?
He's from Detroit.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
But that's kind of what'shappening, though.
SPEAKER_02 (26:09):
Right.
And, like, Shaboosie is anotherexample.
Shaboosie is country pop, right?
Like, all of his music, he sureis talking about things in
country life.
But the sound, right,
SPEAKER_01 (26:24):
is
SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
pop.
SPEAKER_01 (26:26):
How is he talking about country life?
He lives in Woodbridge.
He's from Woodbridge.
SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
Well, I mean, we're from Virginia.
I'm
SPEAKER_01 (26:33):
not country.
SPEAKER_02 (26:34):
Well, a lot of people say that Virginia is the
country.
And
SPEAKER_01 (26:38):
I'm like,
SPEAKER_02 (26:39):
which part?
SPEAKER_01 (26:40):
Not D.C.
area.
SPEAKER_02 (26:41):
No, which Woodbridge is in.
But to that.
And the last one that I'll bringup is Chuck Morris.
This is a this is a new name tome.
He was on my Spotify radio listof new artists to listen to.
SPEAKER_01 (26:55):
You almost said Chuck Norris.
SPEAKER_02 (26:57):
Morris.
But he was actually rapping in acountry song.
SPEAKER_01 (27:05):
And
SPEAKER_02 (27:06):
I'm like, again, fine.
Country rap, maybe.
But if we go back to the rootsof what country was and is, then
you would see that it's Notthis.
SPEAKER_01 (27:21):
I just don't.
I don't.
Country isn't.
There's no such thing as countryanymore.
SPEAKER_02 (27:26):
That's what it feels like, honestly.
And A, that's kind of sad.
SPEAKER_01 (27:30):
Didn't Beyonce just do a country album?
SPEAKER_02 (27:33):
Well, again, she is from Texas.
She is from, I think it'sHouston.
And she has a background that Ibelieve many would say is a
country background.
So, sure.
Sure.
If that's who you are, but thesound of the song, which is
(27:54):
Texas Hold'em, I think is thesong.
But anyways, I've said it manytimes.
I'm not a huge Beyonce fan.
Anyways, but that song has moreof a pop
SPEAKER_01 (28:04):
sound.
That's all of it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:06):
And that's okay.
So it's country pop music.
SPEAKER_01 (28:10):
So I don't think
SPEAKER_02 (28:12):
what country music was exists anymore.
It doesn't.
SPEAKER_01 (28:15):
And that's kind of sad.
Yeah, I agree.
But I still like Hardy.
SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
I mean, I love Shaboosie.
I like the Chuck Morris song.
I like all the Hardy songs thatyou've been listening to.
Do
SPEAKER_01 (28:26):
you like the Beyonce song?
SPEAKER_02 (28:28):
I do.
It's catchy.
SPEAKER_01 (28:29):
Do you like it?
SPEAKER_02 (28:30):
I do.
SPEAKER_01 (28:31):
It's catchy.
I haven't even listened to itand I don't plan on it.
SPEAKER_02 (28:34):
Not your genre.
I get it.
But it is a very catchy song.
A lot of her music is catchy.
SPEAKER_01 (28:38):
No, that's not true.
I do listen to country nowbecause like Hardy.
SPEAKER_02 (28:42):
Get out.
SPEAKER_01 (28:43):
Just leave.
It doesn't make sense.
It's so weird.
SPEAKER_02 (28:46):
But to double down on country here, let's stick
with the South, right?
So I've been watching on Netflixthe new season of Dallas Cowboys
Cheerleaders.
It's an awesome show.
I love that show.
I watched it back when it was onCMT.
I have a dance background.
I used to dance.
So I love it.
(29:07):
I like watching the auditionsand Oh, I like watching the
auditions.
I like seeing them perform.
I really enjoy that show.
And one of the things they saidon the show really just caught
my interest, though.
They, as in the Dallas Cowboycheerleaders, I'm just going to
(29:27):
say specific to them because itwas on that show, were saying
that they have a very lowsalary, meaning they get paid...
Meaning they get paid as much asa Chick-fil-A worker.
So I'm assuming that meansminimum wage, right?
I don't see how they can expectmore.
(29:54):
So the way it was explained inthe show is they are their own
business unit.
They bring in their own funds,their own money, because they
sell Barbies, they sellcalendars, they sell uniforms.
SPEAKER_01 (30:04):
Go to events.
SPEAKER_02 (30:05):
Right.
They go to events, makeappearances, they get paid.
So that makes sense, right?
They're their own business unit.
But I can't imagine thatbusiness unit making so much
money that they could afford topay these dancers more than
that.
SPEAKER_01 (30:21):
I don't either.
They don't exist withoutfootball.
SPEAKER_02 (30:27):
True.
SPEAKER_01 (30:28):
Okay, there may be some people that go to the
football game to watch them.
That's fine.
But most people at a footballgame are there to watch
football.
SPEAKER_02 (30:41):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (30:43):
They are
SPEAKER_02 (30:43):
part of the experience, for sure.
SPEAKER_01 (30:46):
But that's why the football players make millions,
and they don't.
They're a sideshow.
I'm not insulting any of them.
They have skills.
SPEAKER_02 (31:00):
Right.
If you go to a concert, there isthe main event, and there are
opening
SPEAKER_01 (31:05):
acts.
Right.
They're an opening act.
Right.
It's the same with the WNBA andall that stuff.
It's like if you want moremoney, you need to go out there
and get more people to show up.
SPEAKER_02 (31:19):
To show up, to pay for your stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (31:21):
Buy merch.
Right.
All that.
You need more people to show upto your games because...
I don't know.
What's the Dallas Cowboys?
I think it was like 39,000people can fit in the Cowboys
Stadium or
SPEAKER_02 (31:34):
something like that.
Is it more than that?
They can fit five Astrodomesinside of the Dallas Cowboys
SPEAKER_01 (31:45):
Stadium.
I don't know what the number is.
It's huge.
I'm just saying you've got Xamount of people that go there
to see the football playersbuying tickets, buying merch,
buying food.
But then when you swap it overin obviously different arenas,
but if you swap it over to theWNBA, they're not filling
(32:07):
stands.
They're just not.
UNKNOWN (32:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (32:11):
It's not
SPEAKER_02 (32:11):
as popular as the NBA.
SPEAKER_01 (32:13):
It's not.
So people complaining about abusiness that isn't paying them
more doesn't make sense to me.
It's still a business.
SPEAKER_02 (32:24):
Yep.
Still has to make profit.
SPEAKER_01 (32:26):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:27):
At the end of the day.
SPEAKER_01 (32:28):
A football team is a business.
A basketball team is a business.
How can I pay you more than whatwe're making?
Right.
It makes no sense.
SPEAKER_02 (32:36):
Yep.
No, I agree.
In the amount of work that theydo out in their community, like
the outreach that they're doing,they do a lot, it seems, for
their Dallas community.
And I'm not trying to negatethat, but when you look at their
business unit, how much theybring in, their net revenue,
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right?
And then they have to subtractall of their liabilities, which
is payroll.
I'm sure that is actuallyprobably taking up a good chunk
of the revenue.
And then whatever's left isprofit.
SPEAKER_01 (33:10):
Are they self-sufficient
SPEAKER_02 (33:12):
yes
SPEAKER_01 (33:12):
i see that's cool
SPEAKER_02 (33:14):
yeah they are self-sufficient but to your
point they are the opening actthey are part of the show right
they are not the main event
SPEAKER_01 (33:26):
yeah i mean if they want to make more money they
should go out and do events bythemselves
SPEAKER_02 (33:33):
Well, like, think of the Rockettes, right?
SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
Rockettes
SPEAKER_02 (33:36):
do a whole
SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
show.
Right.
Go do parades.
Go do sell tickets.
I wonder how much the Rockettesget paid.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just saying, though, to makemore money, you have to do more
events, not eight games a year.
Yep.
SPEAKER_02 (33:51):
Well, and one of the things they also brought up in
the show is the Dallas Cowboycheerleaders have to be in the
community, right?
They have to be presentingthemselves in a way that they're
America's sweethearts.
And they all seem to do thatreally well.
However, there's a lot ofcontrol there.
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by the Dallas Cowboys brand, ifyou will, as to what they're
involved in, right?
Rightfully so.
SPEAKER_01 (34:21):
Yeah, I mean, they're Dallas Cowboy
cheerleaders.
SPEAKER_02 (34:24):
Right.
They can't fraternize or dateany of the football players,
right?
That's one of the rules.
Well, I also have a personalfriend, real life, real life
scenario situation, who postedsomething on her social media
that she did amazing with thewriting, right?
It was very professionallywritten.
It was on her Her specific pageand the company that she worked
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for did not agree with it, tookoffense to it.
So the idea that a company...
that you work for, organizationyou work for can control those
things or have a say in it even.
SPEAKER_01 (35:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (35:03):
Seems like a lot.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (35:05):
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
SPEAKER_02 (35:07):
A little overstepping there, but I
SPEAKER_01 (35:10):
mean, especially if you're in, you're not really in
a public facing position.
SPEAKER_02 (35:15):
Well, that's my question to you.
Do you think companies should beable to have an opinion on what
you post on social media or whatyou're involved in, who you
date?
Ooh, I see.
I
SPEAKER_01 (35:26):
don't know.
I'm trying to think because Ican see it going both ways.
It's job dependent.
If you are a public-facingperson, like you're the mayor of
something, and you got busteddating your assistant or
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something like that, you'reprobably going to get in shit.
SPEAKER_02 (35:51):
Maybe.
Maybe.
Unless you're both unmarried andit's a...
SPEAKER_01 (35:56):
Okay, say it's a...
SPEAKER_02 (35:59):
Extramarital
SPEAKER_01 (36:00):
situation.
Yeah, say it's something that'sfrowned upon in this
establishment.
You're going to get in trouble.
SPEAKER_02 (36:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:09):
But I don't know.
It's strange to me.
I don't own a business.
UNKNOWN (36:16):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (36:17):
But I could also see where if I did own a business
and somebody was out there andthey were clearly associated
with my business being a fucker.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I just feel like I'd probablyshit can them.
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Well.
And that's my right as abusiness owner.
SPEAKER_02 (36:41):
True.
SPEAKER_01 (36:42):
And that's your...
Okay, it's your right to postwhat you want.
But it's also my right to notlike what you post and ask you
to take it down.
And if you don't like it, then Icould let you go.
SPEAKER_02 (36:56):
Or vice versa.
You can leave, right?
Yeah, right, right.
Everyone has choices in thesituation of matter.
I guess...
In the specific situation andscenario with my friend, what
she posted about...
To me, it had no harm, no foulon anything that had to do with
where she was working.
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So...
Sounds
SPEAKER_01 (37:19):
more like an excuse.
SPEAKER_02 (37:21):
Agreed.
It sounds like they were lookingfor something to complain about
with her and they foundsomething.
But she did what she felt wasbest in that situation.
She took down her post and leftit at that.
You know, moved on, essentially.
For sure.
But ultimately...
That damages the relationshipunless...
SPEAKER_01 (37:44):
Yeah, and that's when you go.
SPEAKER_02 (37:45):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (37:46):
Because it's like, all right, you guys are going to
stick your nose in all mybusiness.
Right.
I'm not here.
I'm not working right now.
Then it's your choice to leave.
SPEAKER_02 (37:54):
Well, on top of that, it's almost like...
It was one of her values.
I'm just going to say it.
It was about Pride Month.
She posted something about PrideMonth and the company didn't
agree with it and essentiallysaid that she shouldn't be
voicing those things on socialmedia.
SPEAKER_01 (38:12):
See, what?
SPEAKER_02 (38:14):
Right.
That's none of your business.
SPEAKER_01 (38:17):
No, and that has nothing to do with anything.
That's not disparaging toanybody.
SPEAKER_02 (38:22):
Right.
That has nothing to do with
SPEAKER_01 (38:24):
anything.
Yeah, see, that's different thanwhat I'm thinking.
I'm thinking Thank you.
You're going out in public andyou're...
SPEAKER_02 (38:31):
Bashing the company.
SPEAKER_01 (38:32):
No.
Yeah, you're vandalizingsomething.
This has nothing
SPEAKER_02 (38:34):
to do with the company, but it's like an
alignment of values wasn'tthere.
So for her, she left eventually.
But when she posted that, theyasked her to take it down.
And I think right there is whatbreaks the relationship.
We do not have aligned values.
SPEAKER_01 (38:54):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (38:54):
So I cannot be here.
SPEAKER_01 (38:56):
See, and that's the...
That's the beauty of the freemarket, though, is you can take
yourself elsewhere.
Now, that's easier said thandone, obviously.
But try to find something elsebecause that's messed up.
Things like that, you should notbe judged about that.
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posts like that.
People are going to disagreewith you.
Everybody disagrees aboutsomething, but to get
reprimanded about Pride Month,really?
That's a little weird.
SPEAKER_02 (39:32):
It's a little much.
SPEAKER_01 (39:33):
That is truly none of your business.
Would they have said anything ifshe said
SPEAKER_02 (39:42):
Happy 4th of July.
SPEAKER_01 (39:43):
No, I'm happy.
I'm straight.
SPEAKER_02 (39:45):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (39:46):
Would they have said anything?
SPEAKER_02 (39:48):
Well,
SPEAKER_01 (39:48):
probably not.
SPEAKER_02 (39:49):
I mean, she, she is an ally to that community.
Not that she's, you know, in oneof the represented.
Right.
I understand.
Yeah.
But
SPEAKER_01 (40:00):
my point is, my point is though, is would they
have jumped or shit for sayingthe opposite?
SPEAKER_02 (40:07):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (40:08):
And I, I feel like they wouldn't have said
anything.
SPEAKER_02 (40:11):
Right.
And that's
SPEAKER_01 (40:12):
strange.
It's like, okay, if you don'twant to see what I'm posting,
then don't read it.
Especially things like that.
SPEAKER_02 (40:19):
And if it's not about your company.
SPEAKER_01 (40:21):
Right.
But like I said, unfortunatelyor fortunately, it can go both
ways depending on the situation.
They have the right to removeher.
Because
SPEAKER_02 (40:37):
That's sad.
SPEAKER_01 (40:38):
It's a free country and it's a free country for
them, too.
SPEAKER_02 (40:42):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (40:42):
The owners of that company can say, you know, I
don't like that.
SPEAKER_02 (40:45):
When it becomes a values thing, though, like it's
not even just shit talking thecompany.
It's a values thing.
And our company, the company andshe did not align.
Like you made that very clear.
SPEAKER_01 (40:58):
It's time for me to go.
SPEAKER_02 (40:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (41:00):
Clearly, it's time for me to go.
That's messed up, though.
I don't like that.
And I don't I it's messed up.
Because if you think about it,there's no real good way to
solve these kind of problems.
Nope.
Because if you say, well,companies shouldn't be able to
fire you for that.
Well, then that snowballs intothis huge cluster.
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It's like, well, you're takingaway the freedom of the owner of
the company.
Or you're taking the freedomaway from your friend.
Right.
She's not allowed to do freespeech.
And it's like, well, yeah, sheis.
But that doesn't mean me as theowner of the company have to
agree.
SPEAKER_02 (41:43):
Unfortunately.
SPEAKER_01 (41:44):
Unfortunately.
For
SPEAKER_02 (41:45):
that specific scenario.
SPEAKER_01 (41:46):
Right.
And I'm not either side.
I
SPEAKER_02 (41:51):
understand.
SPEAKER_01 (41:52):
I'm not disclosing either side or whatever.
But it's kind of...
It's a slippery slope.
It is a very slippery slope.
And a segue from Slippery Slope.
SPEAKER_02 (42:03):
I don't know if I like segue from Slippery Slope.
SPEAKER_01 (42:07):
Louisiana just passed a law to post the...
SPEAKER_02 (42:10):
Whoa, that has nothing to do with the slippery
zone.
SPEAKER_01 (42:12):
Yes, it does.
Now let me get there.
Louisiana just passed a law topost the Ten Commandments in all
school classrooms.
SPEAKER_02 (42:22):
Was this voted on by the people?
SPEAKER_01 (42:23):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_02 (42:26):
Good talk.
SPEAKER_01 (42:27):
But I'm just saying, they just passed a law.
So they're going to post the TenCommandments in classrooms.
What do you think about this?
SPEAKER_02 (42:37):
So first initial thought, was it voted on by the
people?
If it was voted on by thepeople, to me, that is what a
majority of people have votedfor, have voiced that they want.
So it should move forward.
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Caveat to that, though, is ifindividuals who are not of that
faith, don't believe this shouldcontinue, they have the right to
challenge it.
You can take it to the LouisianaSupreme Court.
SPEAKER_01 (43:16):
Or do you say, I want my religious text posted on
the walls in all schools?
SPEAKER_02 (43:21):
They could very well do that, too.
SPEAKER_01 (43:24):
My issue, it's a First Amendment issue.
The government isn't supposed topromote or align themselves with
any religion.
SPEAKER_02 (43:35):
Freedom of religion.
Yep.
All religions are free.
SPEAKER_01 (43:38):
Right.
So they're doing, they'realigning themselves.
That is a government agency.
or a state government aligningthemselves with a religion.
I'm a Christian and I think thisis bullshit.
SPEAKER_02 (43:54):
I'm not going to disagree.
My caveat here is if the peoplevoted on it,
SPEAKER_01 (44:00):
the first amendment is very clear that the
government shall not.
SPEAKER_02 (44:04):
I understand.
But if the people voted on itand that's what they want, and
that's what lawmakers in thatstate said, okay, people said,
yes, we're going to pass thelaw.
Then our, judicial system needsto get involved and say whether
or not it's constitutional.
That is a constitutionalgovernment.
SPEAKER_01 (44:24):
In my opinion, it is not constitutional because your
state government is aligningitself with the religion.
Go to
SPEAKER_02 (44:32):
Louisiana and defend them.
SPEAKER_01 (44:34):
I don't think that's right.
There's a separation of churchand state.
You're clearly not separating.
We need
SPEAKER_02 (44:40):
to add another one at this point.
We need to have a separation ofchurch and state as well as a
separation of state and socialpolicy.
SPEAKER_01 (44:49):
Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_02 (44:50):
We need complete separation of religion and
social policy from ourgovernment.
SPEAKER_01 (44:56):
It
SPEAKER_02 (44:57):
is insane how much they They're trying to control
and be involved in.
I'm on a soapbox now.
Let me come back down.
SPEAKER_01 (45:04):
So the first commandment is about God.
You won't believe in anotherGod, but this God.
SPEAKER_02 (45:14):
Right.
That is against other childrenwho are of other faiths.
Correct.
I understand
SPEAKER_01 (45:23):
that.
Like I said, I believe in theTen Commandments because I'm a
Christian.
Oh,
SPEAKER_02 (45:28):
I've got something to say about
SPEAKER_01 (45:29):
that.
However, to all these peoplethat are over there that don't
believe in Christianity or Jesusand things like that, it's like,
how does that make them feel?
SPEAKER_02 (45:40):
I'm getting so excited about this conversation.
SPEAKER_01 (45:42):
Okay, go.
SPEAKER_02 (45:42):
Okay.
On The Chosen, the new seasoncame out and the episode, I
can't remember which episode itis, but Jesus is explaining to
his disciples that the TenCommandments, yes, are the laws
of Moses.
They are very important, butthey do not trump anything that
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Jesus came on this earth to do.
We are Christians.
We've already said that.
Believe in Jesus.
Believe in Jesus.
Him saying that, like theexample was, but we're supposed
to honor our mother and father.
And Jesus says, you can honoryour mother and father, but not
before or above me.
Right.
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Yes.
So.
Yes, you can put the TenCommandments in school if that's
what people voted on, but thejudicial system should be
getting involved because Jesussaid the Ten Commandments do not
come above him.
SPEAKER_01 (46:37):
It's just strange, though, how...
SPEAKER_02 (46:40):
I don't think that made any sense what I just
SPEAKER_01 (46:41):
said.
But it's strange how...
Because a lot of the people thatare supporters of this will get
super mad if another religionsaid, well, we want ours on the
wall, too.
True.
SPEAKER_02 (46:54):
Rules for me, but not for
SPEAKER_01 (46:56):
them.
It's like, no, no, no, no.
That's why you don't put any ofthat shit in school at all.
SPEAKER_02 (47:01):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (47:02):
And that's a home thing and a personal quest to go
on and learn about.
Yep.
It's not a school thing.
Right.
School's not there to teach youa religion.
And that actually, it reallydoes make me kind of angry.
Because that is not the placefor that.
SPEAKER_02 (47:23):
Agreed, I think.
SPEAKER_01 (47:24):
But it's also not the place for a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (47:27):
It's not the place for social policies.
SPEAKER_01 (47:29):
Exactly.
You teach me math.
Yep.
You teach me history.
And you teach me science.
Mm-hmm.
And English.
And then you send me home.
Yep.
That was the weirdest face I've
SPEAKER_02 (47:40):
ever seen.
It went away because you movedit.
SPEAKER_01 (47:44):
Well, yeah.
I just, I it's schools areturning into indoctrination
stations.
SPEAKER_02 (47:54):
When I feel like people would argue with you on
what you just said about teachme those basic fundamentals and
send me home because a lot ofkids aren't getting that at
home, aren't getting the socialtraining, aren't getting the
exposure to all of these otherthings that goes through life.
It's like, but that's a homeproblem.
SPEAKER_01 (48:15):
Yeah.
That's not a state issue.
Right.
You don't you don't then blanketsay, OK, everybody, every kid
that goes to public school nowhas to learn about all these
social issues and all thesereligious issues and all about.
No.
Right.
That's separate.
That is a home thing.
Yep.
And if it's not at home, they'lllearn it.
SPEAKER_02 (48:37):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (48:37):
Kids are freaking smart, man.
Ours is.
She catches up on stuff, andwe're like, uh-oh.
SPEAKER_02 (48:43):
If they have screens, they'll figure it out.
I promise.
SPEAKER_01 (48:46):
Yeah.
It's just wild, though, thatthey're thinking that this is a
good idea.
Like I said, I'm a Christianperson.
I don't think public schools, astate-run thing...
or a government-run thing shouldbe involved in religion or
social issues.
SPEAKER_02 (49:06):
For sure.
Sure.
So I had a dream the othernight.
SPEAKER_01 (49:12):
Oh, God.
Did I get punched when you wokeup?
SPEAKER_02 (49:16):
No.
I am a very vivid dreamer.
I have been that way since...
Honestly, as long as I canremember.
SPEAKER_01 (49:24):
Yeah, you've sat up in the bed and typed.
SPEAKER_02 (49:29):
I used to work at a hotel, and yes, I was checking
in.
Whatever we called him.
A guest.
Thank you.
A guest to the hotel.
I sat up, and I was like, howcan I help you?
SPEAKER_01 (49:40):
Yeah.
Damn, you should call them upand get overtime.
Checking people in from thehouse.
SPEAKER_02 (49:46):
That was one of my first big girl jobs, and it was
very stressful.
But most recently, how detailedDo you remember things from your
dreams?
Because...
SPEAKER_01 (49:56):
Rarely.
SPEAKER_02 (49:57):
Literally, I had to look this up.
I had a dream about an address.
A full address.
Don't know what city, state, orzip I was in, but it was 4755
Moshell.
I can't remember if it wasDrive, Court, Street, but
something.
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Something.
SPEAKER_01 (50:19):
Did you look it up?
SPEAKER_02 (50:19):
I did.
It doesn't exist.
SPEAKER_01 (50:22):
Okay, good.
SPEAKER_02 (50:23):
It doesn't exist, but it was the strangest thing
that it was in my head when Iwoke up, and I had to look it
up.
I had to.
SPEAKER_01 (50:33):
I don't think I've ever been able to remember that
much about my dreams.
SPEAKER_02 (50:38):
Oh, my gosh.
It was insane that an addressstuck in my head.
It's
SPEAKER_01 (50:45):
kind of weird.
Right?
Yeah.
A little crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (50:50):
Aw, you almost didn't answer and I was going to
congratulate you.
Okay.
Have you heard about the HawkTua girl?
I
SPEAKER_01 (51:03):
did.
I don't know how you couldn'thave heard about Hawk Tua girl.
That's how you should have askedme.
Have you not heard about theHawk Tua girl?
SPEAKER_02 (51:13):
Uh-huh.
Yeah, she's very popular rightnow.
SPEAKER_01 (51:15):
Yeah, she's a living meme.
SPEAKER_02 (51:18):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I don't even know what to sayabout it, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_01 (51:26):
I thought...
People are dogging her like herdad's going to be so proud.
It's like, honestly, she wasbeing funny
SPEAKER_02 (51:33):
and
SPEAKER_01 (51:33):
it was funny.
SPEAKER_02 (51:34):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (51:35):
I thought that was funny as shit.
And everybody's like, oh, thehook to a girl's dad is like,
you know, I'm like,
SPEAKER_02 (51:42):
but it's just being funny,
SPEAKER_01 (51:44):
man.
And
SPEAKER_02 (51:44):
all of the music that's out there today, there
are work.
WAP, for
SPEAKER_01 (51:51):
example.
Well, and how many girls are anddudes are on OnlyFans and all
that?
shit selling access to their...
Hoctuas.
Hoctuas.
But it's just weird, though.
It's like...
You guys are dogging this girlabout being freaking...
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I thought it was hilarious, tobe honest with you.
But being really funny...
SPEAKER_02 (52:14):
But who actually does that Hoctua sound?
I've never heard
SPEAKER_01 (52:20):
a Hoctua.
If you Hoctuad me, I would befucking pissed.
Because that's disrespectful.
SPEAKER_02 (52:30):
Oh, God.
SPEAKER_01 (52:31):
That's Lugian.
Oh,
SPEAKER_02 (52:33):
right?
That's what I thought, too.
Like, she's talking about aLugian.
SPEAKER_01 (52:37):
That's not...
SPEAKER_02 (52:38):
That's not like just a friendly...
No,
SPEAKER_01 (52:41):
she's a...
That's nasty.
SPEAKER_02 (52:45):
You're about to become your own little meme.
That's okay.
You're going to be immortalized.
SPEAKER_01 (52:49):
I'm just saying, that's disrespectful.
No Hawk 2N over here.
That's vile.
SPEAKER_02 (52:55):
I've got a final thought for you.
SPEAKER_01 (52:57):
Final?
SPEAKER_02 (52:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (52:58):
Podcast over?
SPEAKER_02 (52:59):
Before it's over.
Do you hug with your eyes openor closed?
SPEAKER_01 (53:05):
I don't know.
That's a weird question.
SPEAKER_02 (53:12):
So going back to the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders,
they all hug a lot in all ofthose episodes.
And some of the girls have theireyes open.
Some of them have them closed.
And I'm like, oh, no.
What do I do?
SPEAKER_01 (53:24):
I feel like my eyes are open.
SPEAKER_02 (53:27):
I
SPEAKER_01 (53:27):
feel like.
Yeah, I feel like my eyes areopen because I'm always looking
out for like ninjas in the woodsand shit.
SPEAKER_02 (53:35):
Ninjas in the woods
SPEAKER_01 (53:36):
when you're hugging somebody in the house.
Fucking weird stray cats outhere in Florida.
You hug our
SPEAKER_02 (53:42):
daughter before she goes to school.
SPEAKER_01 (53:44):
Looking all over.
Where's our cat Benny?
Yeah, I'm always on high alert.
I'm serious.
I'm terrified.
SPEAKER_02 (53:52):
So now I'm going to be very conscious as to whether
my eyes are open or closed.
SPEAKER_01 (53:55):
You're going to just do it
SPEAKER_02 (53:56):
like this.
SPEAKER_01 (53:58):
I'm both.
SPEAKER_02 (53:59):
I'm going to watch out for the ninjas.
SPEAKER_01 (54:01):
All
SPEAKER_02 (54:04):
right.
SPEAKER_01 (54:05):
So we have swapped hosts again.
Oh, we went to we are now on.
Let me just let me just back itup here.
SPEAKER_02 (54:15):
Yeah, do that.
SPEAKER_01 (54:18):
To manage a podcast, it takes a lot of tools, right?
SPEAKER_02 (54:23):
You were very good at it.
SPEAKER_01 (54:24):
Yeah, we had a Patreon.
We had a website and then we hada host.
Two or three separate tools andthey all cost money and they
aren't cheap.
Well, Substack is all three ofthose tools in one.
So we've got a website throughSubstack and now we have our
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Patreon membership.
It's not really a Patreonmembership anymore, but that's
through Substack too.
And they host our podcast andvideo episodes.
Please, please sign up.
No, you don't have to pay us,but sign up for our newsletter
it helps us kind of raise up inthe sub stack rankings it's kind
of nice and you get you can signup for free it'll still send you
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our weekly or bi-weekly updatesand episodes and we're also
going to start posting some blogtype stuff there too because
it's kind of fun you know whatI'm saying but we're also this
is the thing we're going to dosome specials yeah VIP or paid
subscriber only episodes to kindof entice you into joining,
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giving us some money.
What did you want to call theVIP membership?
SPEAKER_02 (55:39):
I don't remember.
SPEAKER_01 (55:40):
Unfiltered heathens or something like that?
No.
SPEAKER_02 (55:44):
What?
SPEAKER_01 (55:45):
You lied to me.
SPEAKER_02 (55:46):
Free opinions?
I don't know.
It's still on the whiteboard.
The heathens were better.
Thanks.
My first idea was better.
Okay, gotcha.
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