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In this lively episode of the Unfiltered Union Podcast, Russ and Lindz catch up on their 4th of July celebrations, discussing the nostalgic fun of sparklers and favorite holidays. They explore the generational divide in basic skills like counting coins while enjoying humorous banter. The discussion takes a serious turn as they ponder smart people versus societal trends, and dive into hurricane conspiracy theories and the science of weather patterns. The episode includes a passionate analysis of Stranger Things, with predictions for the series finale, and an examination of SpaceX's role in bringing down the ISS. Russ and Lindz wrap up with thoughts on smartphone addiction, the feasibility of tiny homes for the homeless in Tampa, and some lighthearted debates on random topics.

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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
The Unfiltered Union Podcast.

SPEAKER_04 (00:07):
Happy 4th of July.

SPEAKER_01 (00:09):
Late.

SPEAKER_04 (00:11):
Well, we missed a week because of the holiday.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_01 (00:15):
we did, but love you.
Anyway, just not as much asAmerica.

SPEAKER_04 (00:23):
I guess, right?
No, I feel like we kind of didthe typical holiday thing.
What are you

SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
doing?
I kind of move.
My fat was feeling funky.
It was all smushed.

SPEAKER_04 (00:36):
Got a nice knee.
Isn't

SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
that like not a millennial, a Gen Z thing?
They don't like knees orsomething like that?

SPEAKER_04 (00:44):
I don't know.
They don't like anything.
They don't like feet.
We'll get into all that.
What's your favorite thing aboutthe 4th of July holiday?

SPEAKER_01 (00:57):
Probably what most people like is...
Having time off.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03):
Okay.
I mean, that's fair.

SPEAKER_01 (01:05):
I know.
I mean, I like time off.

SPEAKER_04 (01:10):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10):
Fair.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11):
Well, yeah, but so when we were kids, do you
remember the sparklers thatactually would leave a trail as
you were doing them?

SPEAKER_01 (01:21):
It's the same as now.

SPEAKER_04 (01:22):
No, it's not.
Yes, it is.
No, it's not.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26):
I swear to my goodness, they have changed
sparklers.
So now they don't leave thattrail behind.
You're

SPEAKER_01 (01:32):
getting

SPEAKER_04 (01:38):
older.

SPEAKER_01 (01:53):
Maybe that's what's wrong with us.
We're breathing in all thatcarcinogens and stuff from
sparklers and now we're alljacked up.
That's why millennials arebroke.

SPEAKER_04 (02:03):
Oh, okay.
I see how that relates.
Ultimately, for me, it's allabout kids.
We have a kiddo.
She's nine years old and then wehave two nephews, six and four.
To see them do sparklers, to seethem watch fireworks, it's cool.

SPEAKER_01 (02:20):
I like it.
Especially when your nephewsfall out of their chair every
two minutes.
And then what's really funny iswhen we're watching fireworks,
he falls out of his chair andthen some random person comes.
Are you OK?
I'm like, the dude is fine.
Leave him alone.

SPEAKER_04 (02:34):
He's not crying.
He's good.

SPEAKER_01 (02:36):
It's in grass.
He's fine.
He's doing it on purpose.
Then he kept doing it over andover again to get more
attention.
So

SPEAKER_04 (02:42):
he also almost lit something on fire with the
spark.

SPEAKER_01 (02:46):
Oh, my God.

SPEAKER_04 (02:47):
So it was just a great day.

SPEAKER_01 (02:50):
That's why they stopped with the smoke stuff
because Because

SPEAKER_04 (02:54):
millennials are pyros.

SPEAKER_01 (02:55):
Yeah, we're pyros and we're just ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04 (02:59):
Well, even bigger than that, what's your favorite
holiday in general?

SPEAKER_01 (03:04):
I don't know.
You know, I really likeThanksgiving because I like to
eat.

SPEAKER_04 (03:10):
Okay, fair.

SPEAKER_01 (03:11):
I like to eat.
And you know, it's a family,like bring everybody together.
I like the fact that there's nogift exchange at Thanksgiving,
but you're just having a goodmeal together.
That is probably why that's myfavorite.
Because Christmas is nothing butpressure.

SPEAKER_04 (03:31):
True.
It is.
It doesn't have to be,

SPEAKER_01 (03:34):
but true.
I know.
Well, we've kind of set groundrules that we are...
Only spending money on kids.
So our nephews, our kiddo andour extended family kids.
And then we don't even really dothat much anymore just because
we're pretty far away.
But.

(03:56):
No pressure on Thanksgiving.
And I get to stuff my face.

SPEAKER_04 (04:00):
There you go.
Well, I think 4th of July hasbeen mine since I was a kid
because, A, my birthday is rightaround the corner.
But

SPEAKER_02 (04:08):
also,

SPEAKER_04 (04:09):
it is when I was a kid.
But it also meant summer, right?
Like summer is here and we're infull swing.
But now that we're in Florida.
That's

SPEAKER_01 (04:19):
year round.

SPEAKER_04 (04:20):
Right.
So I still like the 4th of July,but I am actually enjoying the
winter holiday.
Because I'm not so miserable inthe cold of D.C.

SPEAKER_01 (04:31):
Yeah, I like I mean, Fourth of July is up there for
me, but.
It's just.
I don't know, it just feelsshort lived.
Like Thanksgiving is almost anall day event.

SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Yes,

SPEAKER_01 (04:43):
because cooking and people don't like to cook and
stuff.
Act like you cook.
I cook almost every single dayin this house, okay?

SPEAKER_04 (04:54):
Ever since you bought a Traeger, yes.

SPEAKER_01 (04:55):
Yeah, I bought a Traeger, and I love it.
I highly recommend a Traeger,especially if you live in
Florida where your AC is alreadycranking.
Don't heat your house up.
Just go outside and cook.

SPEAKER_04 (05:07):
Right, and smoke up the one eye.
That's okay.
No big deal.

SPEAKER_01 (05:11):
Okay,

SPEAKER_04 (05:12):
all right.

SPEAKER_01 (05:13):
I'm contributing to global warming with my Traeger.

SPEAKER_04 (05:15):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (05:17):
All the smoke.

SPEAKER_04 (05:19):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (05:21):
And the carbon monoxide.
Okay.
I'm done.

SPEAKER_04 (05:25):
Good.
All right.
So along with the holiday of 4thof July summer season comes
hurricanes.

SPEAKER_01 (05:33):
We already had one.

SPEAKER_04 (05:35):
Yep.
Hurricane Burl.
Okay.
I wanted so bad to say that.
Hurricane Burl.

SPEAKER_01 (05:43):
Is it Burl?

SPEAKER_04 (05:44):
I don't know.
B-E-R-Y-L.

SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
Or barrel.

SPEAKER_04 (05:47):
Or barrel.
Burl.
Burl.
I guess It depends on which partof Florida you're

SPEAKER_01 (05:51):
from.
I have never met a person in mylife named Burl.
Have you?

SPEAKER_04 (05:57):
No, but it sounds like somebody who would be on
like Walking Dead or something.

SPEAKER_01 (06:01):
Durl?
Durl.

SPEAKER_04 (06:03):
Curl.

SPEAKER_01 (06:03):
Curl.

SPEAKER_04 (06:06):
Anyways.

SPEAKER_01 (06:06):
Did Rick Grimes make that name up for the hurricane?

SPEAKER_04 (06:10):
There you go.
Right.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (06:12):
Okay.
I got it.

SPEAKER_04 (06:14):
Glad we're on the same

SPEAKER_01 (06:14):
wavelength.
Took

SPEAKER_04 (06:16):
a while.
Okay.
But this was the first Cat5Hurricane recorded for the
Atlantic in June ever.

SPEAKER_01 (06:25):
Yeah, it's the earliest hurricane ever.
There's a lot of weird.
There's a lot of weirdconspiracies going on about
this, too.

SPEAKER_04 (06:34):
It's a hurricane.
What conspiracy can you possiblycome up with?

SPEAKER_01 (06:39):
Well, because Joe Biden's debate performance was.
Right.
Was it good?
Let me ask you this first.
Was it good?

SPEAKER_04 (06:49):
Both of them sucked, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 (06:51):
I disagree, but okay.
Both of them

SPEAKER_04 (06:53):
sucked.
And what does the hurricane haveto do?

SPEAKER_01 (06:58):
Because his debate performance was so bad and it
was in the news everywhere, theyhad to drum up something else.
You know how they deflect.
It's all about deflection,right?
Get your mind off of somethingby putting something else in
your vision.

SPEAKER_04 (07:13):
Oh, my tinfoil husband.

SPEAKER_01 (07:15):
Oh, no, no, no.
There is weird pictures, likeradar pictures, and it looks
like energy being directed intoit, like almost smaller
hurricanes within the bighurricane.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not saying it's realor that I believe it.
It's

SPEAKER_04 (07:35):
like the movie Twisters, right?
Or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (07:37):
I'm just saying what I saw.

SPEAKER_04 (07:39):
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, the internet is full offun things.
It is.
Especially now that AI isgenerating all kinds of content.

SPEAKER_01 (07:46):
It is, but it doesn't change the fact that Joe
Biden sucked at the debate.

UNKNOWN (07:51):
No.

SPEAKER_04 (07:53):
I don't understand how we go from Joe Biden at the
debate to a hurricane.

SPEAKER_01 (07:58):
Regardless, we're moving on.
He could have at least takensomething to make him a little
bit more coherent.
Back

SPEAKER_04 (08:09):
to the hurricane.
The hurricane was the strongestrecorded and whether or not you
believe tinfoil hat stuff aboutthe energy in it, but...

SPEAKER_01 (08:23):
Why you gotta make it sound like I'm dumb?

SPEAKER_04 (08:28):
I'm not making it sound like you're dumb.
That is tinfoil

SPEAKER_01 (08:30):
hat.
It is, but you can't tell methat the government isn't
responsible for false flags allthe time.
You never know.
You never know.
What about them chemtrails upthere?

SPEAKER_04 (08:43):
What about the Saharan sand that's coming now?
Meaning we're not going to haveany more hurricanes for a little
bit.

SPEAKER_01 (08:49):
That'd be nice.

SPEAKER_04 (08:50):
I trust Dennis Phillips.
So if Dennis Phillips, who isthe weatherman in Central
Florida that everybody followsbecause he's typically on the
money when it comes to hurricanestorms, etc., If he says that
the hurricane is what it was andthat the Saharan sand is now
here, I say, yay!

SPEAKER_01 (09:11):
What does Saharan sand have to do?
See, you're talking about me.
What?
The hell does Saharan sand haveto do with a hurricane?

SPEAKER_04 (09:19):
The sand from the Sahara desert is following the
Gulf Stream current.
The air is coming this way fullof dust, so it's keeping the
hurricane wind down to aminimum.

SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
Because of the desert sand.

SPEAKER_04 (09:37):
Because of the desert

SPEAKER_01 (09:38):
sand.
See, that's tinfoil hat craptoo.

SPEAKER_04 (09:42):
Alright, you go talk to Dennis Phillips.

SPEAKER_01 (09:44):
I will.
I would love to interview him onthe podcast.

SPEAKER_04 (09:47):
Me too.
But he is the man when it comesto Florida weather.
We trust Dennis Phillips in thishouse.

SPEAKER_01 (09:53):
And you know why I trust him?
Rule number seven.
Because he is not asensationalist when it comes to
this stuff.
When we get hurricanes downhere, we're in Florida, so it's
a guarantee.
We get text messages from everymember.
Family members, we don't evenNo.
They text us and they say, hey,are you going to be okay?

(10:14):
Are you fleeing?
Are you evacuating?
Blah, blah, blah.
And

SPEAKER_02 (10:18):
we're like,

SPEAKER_01 (10:19):
no.
It's nothing.
It's literally nothing.
The news down here is saying,oh, it's going to be 25 to 50
mile an hour wind gusts or withgusts up to 80.
I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_04 (10:33):
So we're not trying to downplay hurricanes.
And

SPEAKER_01 (10:34):
I'm not.
But I am downplaying the mediain other locations when When you
do see a hurricane coming andthen you get 100 million text
messages from people, clearlybecause it's sensationalist in
other parts of the country,which is wild.

SPEAKER_04 (10:52):
Well, I mean, yeah, something's got to make the
news, I guess.
But, I mean, hurricanes are.

SPEAKER_01 (10:56):
They can be dangerous.
Right.

SPEAKER_04 (10:58):
They can be dangerous.
They can be detrimental to anarea, et cetera.

SPEAKER_01 (11:01):
But they can also be nothing.

SPEAKER_04 (11:03):
Exactly.
But for now, it sounds likewe're not going to have any
coming up the Gulf Coast.
What is that?
Gulf Stream?
Is it Gulf Stream?

SPEAKER_02 (11:12):
I don't

SPEAKER_04 (11:12):
know.
Okay, whatever.
We're not going to have any comeup the Gulf for a little bit.
little while because of thesand.

SPEAKER_01 (11:19):
Well, what about all the sand that we already have in
Florida?
I don't understand why thatdoesn't stop.
Yeah, we are

SPEAKER_04 (11:23):
on a sandbar, right?
Guess what else happens insummer?

SPEAKER_01 (11:29):
Heat?

SPEAKER_04 (11:30):
Well, I guess every four years, but the Olympics are
coming.

SPEAKER_01 (11:33):
Oh, yeah.
I'm kind of excited.

SPEAKER_04 (11:35):
Are you?
A

SPEAKER_01 (11:36):
little bit.

SPEAKER_04 (11:36):
I thought you liked winter more.

SPEAKER_01 (11:38):
I like both.

SPEAKER_04 (11:39):
Do you?

SPEAKER_01 (11:40):
I do like winter more, but I like both.

SPEAKER_04 (11:43):
I think I like summer more.

SPEAKER_01 (11:44):
There's a lot of weird stuff going on.
Where's it at?

SPEAKER_04 (11:47):
Oh, my gosh.
Are we in a tinfoil hat today?

SPEAKER_01 (11:49):
Where's it at in Paris, right?
I think they're talking about noAC units and stuff.

SPEAKER_04 (11:54):
Oh, didn't that happen when it was in Russia,
too?

SPEAKER_01 (11:57):
No, that was the winter ones, and I think it was
just a complete shithole

SPEAKER_04 (12:02):
well that's what I'm saying but

SPEAKER_01 (12:04):
Paris isn't a shithole

SPEAKER_04 (12:06):
I'm sure no place is a shithole that they have the
Olympics

SPEAKER_01 (12:10):
I don't

SPEAKER_04 (12:11):
know But

SPEAKER_01 (12:12):
Russia's cold all the time.
If it's cold permanently, it's

SPEAKER_04 (12:21):
cold.
That's what we fled from, right?
And it was only cold.
Maybe what?
Four or five months out

SPEAKER_01 (12:28):
of there.
You suck, dude.
I'm all on the commie.
Because of Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_04 (12:37):
Oh, yeah.
We'll get to that here in aminute, too.
We'll talk about your newfavorite show here in just a
moment.
So you are saying that youprefer winter?

SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
Olympics.
Yeah.
I do not prefer winter weather.

SPEAKER_04 (12:49):
Okay.
What's your favorite event?

SPEAKER_01 (12:54):
I like bobsled and I like snowboarding.
Did I say sled?
Holy shit.

SPEAKER_04 (13:01):
I

SPEAKER_01 (13:02):
think I just lished.

SPEAKER_04 (13:04):
We are not okay today.

SPEAKER_01 (13:06):
Bob Sled.
Okay.
Was that all right?
Yeah.
Okay, good.

SPEAKER_04 (13:09):
Because you're a millennial and you watched the
Jamaican Bob Sled.
Yeah, Cool Runnings.
Cool Runnings movie, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (13:14):
That was a great movie.

SPEAKER_04 (13:16):
It was.
It was a good movie.

SPEAKER_01 (13:17):
It just doesn't make sense.
I know it's real or it's basedon a true story, but...
It's just like Florida hockeyteams winning the Stanley Cup.

SPEAKER_04 (13:26):
Right! Freaking Florida Panthers won the Stanley
Cup!

SPEAKER_01 (13:29):
We ain't got ice here and we still won.

SPEAKER_04 (13:32):
Artificial

SPEAKER_01 (13:33):
ice.
The only ice we have is in ourrefrigerators and freezers.

SPEAKER_04 (13:38):
But somehow they won.

SPEAKER_01 (13:39):
We won.
I mean, in Florida, it's beenlike seven years of having an
appearance in the Stanley Cup orsomething like that.

SPEAKER_04 (13:47):
Well, having an appearance and I think winning,

SPEAKER_01 (13:50):
right?
I don't think we've won everytime, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (13:53):
I would say five out of the seven.
Anyhow, I think for Olympics forme is summer and I am a big, big
gymnastics and swim fan.
And I think again, becausemillennials, right?

SPEAKER_01 (14:11):
I think gymnastics is pretty cool though.

SPEAKER_04 (14:14):
Well, we grew up with really big names in
gymnastics.
Like, um, I can't think of asingle one.
She's

SPEAKER_01 (14:22):
making a very good

SPEAKER_04 (14:23):
point.
What's her name?
Um, but there's a lot of,

SPEAKER_01 (14:27):
Hang on.
Gymnast.
I think I have a booger.
I did.
Did you see that?

SPEAKER_04 (14:32):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (14:32):
Oh my God.
I'm leaving that in.

SPEAKER_04 (14:34):
I'm glad we're not live streaming.

SPEAKER_01 (14:38):
We are.

SPEAKER_04 (14:40):
There are a lot of gymnasts who we grew up with as
millennials, you know, who werereally big at the time.
And then, of course, you haveswimming and Michael Phelps.
Like that was a big deal as wewere growing up during the early
2000s.
So like to me, those are likethe staples.

SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
Isn't that weird how Michael Phelps was like 2000?

SPEAKER_04 (15:00):
Yeah.
Like I think it was 08, right?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (15:03):
Yeah, that seems so long ago.
It doesn't seem long ago to me,but if you look at the years,
it's like, holy

SPEAKER_04 (15:11):
crap.
Yeah, because I graduated in 08,you graduated in 07.
We're

SPEAKER_01 (15:18):
old.
Did I graduate?

SPEAKER_04 (15:20):
Just barely, and only because of me.
But...

SPEAKER_01 (15:25):
Got the best sleep of my life on them desks.

SPEAKER_04 (15:28):
Wasn't there a meme that said, I need a really good
nap.
I'm going to buy a school

SPEAKER_01 (15:33):
desk.
And there was some dude, he wentto Goodwill and he saw a school
desk.
He was like, I'm about to takethe best nap of my life.

SPEAKER_04 (15:42):
Well, moving on, the big thing in the news right now,
I think you've heard, I think Isaid this to you,

SPEAKER_01 (15:49):
and you said, yeah.
Joe Biden not doing good in thedebate.
Would you

SPEAKER_04 (15:52):
stop?
No.
Elon Musk has a deal from NASAright now.
SpaceX won the deal in order tobring down the ISS.
It is an$800 million deal.

SPEAKER_01 (16:06):
How do you bring that whole thing down?
I feel like the best thing todo, instead of trying to bring
it down, down is just push itinto space.

SPEAKER_04 (16:13):
That's what I was thinking.
Seriously.
So this whole project is goingto take a decade, literally, is
what they're saying.
Not until 2030 are they actuallygoing to be able to have
whatever equipment device thingin order to bring it down.
But why bring it down?

SPEAKER_01 (16:31):
Because space is fake.

UNKNOWN (16:35):
Oh, my God.

SPEAKER_04 (16:38):
I can't.
I can't.
I just, I can't

SPEAKER_01 (16:41):
today.
Well, why wouldn't they do it?
Don't you think that would beeasier than trying to pull it in
and not hit people in thenoggin?

SPEAKER_04 (16:48):
Well, I almost wonder if it has to do with,
like, refurb...
I almost said it again.
I was this close to saying itagain.
Refabricate.
Nope.
I'm going to say it.
Refurbishment.

SPEAKER_01 (17:03):
Refurbishment?
Refurbish.
Not refurbiration again.
There's a shirt out there onstore.unfilteredunion.com

SPEAKER_04 (17:13):
That's the lensism right there.
She

SPEAKER_01 (17:15):
makes up her own English as we go.

SPEAKER_04 (17:18):
But if it's like to reuse any of the ISS...
I feel like I'm being veryanimated today with my hands and
my face, whereas you were justtinfoil hat all day.

SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Yeah, I know, but I'm trying not to get punched
over here.

SPEAKER_04 (17:34):
I have not been that close yet.
We can watch

SPEAKER_01 (17:36):
it back.

SPEAKER_04 (17:37):
But I feel like that may be the case for it.
Right.
So like Elon Musk and SpaceX,it's all about bringing the
rockets back down.
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (17:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (17:46):
Instead of wasting them.
So maybe it's the same lineswhere they want to bring it back
and maybe use parts, pieces ofit.

SPEAKER_01 (17:53):
I don't think so.
I think they should just push itout to space.
It's old.

SPEAKER_04 (17:58):
Well, not only is it old, I mean, how much damage is
it going to go through when itreenters the atmosphere?
I

SPEAKER_01 (18:05):
don't know.
I don't know.
I think that they should justsend it out to space.

SPEAKER_04 (18:10):
I agree.

SPEAKER_01 (18:10):
Shoot a rocket up there.
Have a dude out there with crazyglue and glue it to the ISS and
then push the button and launchthat rocket into space further.
He sent a Model X or whatever,one of his cars into space and
he's flying around out there.
Right.
Send the ISS out there, flyaround.

SPEAKER_04 (18:32):
I agree.
I don't understand why wewouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 (18:35):
There can't be super valuable stuff on there anymore.
It's old.
Or is there?

SPEAKER_04 (18:41):
Dun dun dun.
There you go.
I'm with

SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
you now.
Is it proof that space is fake?

SPEAKER_04 (18:45):
Right.
I can't.
I really can't.
So we have Elon Musk and all thepeople at SpaceX who are trying
to accomplish his feat.
You have really smart people,right, who are working on all
these

SPEAKER_01 (19:00):
things.
Yeah, obviously we're dumb.
I mean, I'm dumb.
I'm dumb.
But I still feel like, why notjust send it?

SPEAKER_04 (19:08):
I feel like that right there is a sound clip.
I'm dumb.
I'm dumb.

SPEAKER_01 (19:12):
Just send it.

SPEAKER_04 (19:14):
Just send it to the internet.
Okay.
But recently we went to dinnerat a local diner and we were
talking with some of thewaitresses there.
It was a really slow

SPEAKER_02 (19:25):
night.

SPEAKER_04 (19:27):
There was nobody else in there but us with our
kiddo and these waitresses.

SPEAKER_01 (19:31):
I have concerns about the future of this
country.

SPEAKER_04 (19:34):
That's what I'm saying.
You've got these smart people atSpaceX trying to figure out how
to bring down the ISS.
And then you have thesewonderful young girls.
They are in their early teens.
They are amazing Not

SPEAKER_01 (19:48):
early teens, right?
Late teens.

SPEAKER_04 (19:50):
Late teens, excuse

SPEAKER_01 (19:51):
me.
Yes, you're right.
Late teens.
They're 18-ish years old.
Right,

SPEAKER_04 (19:55):
close to 20.

SPEAKER_01 (19:55):
Working, things like that.

SPEAKER_04 (19:57):
Yep.
And they just, I think there's adifference.

SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
No, no.

SPEAKER_04 (20:05):
No, I want to talk this out because I think there's
a difference, right?
Where generations past had tolearn how to do things the hard
way, right?
We're talking about countingcoins.
We're talking about cash.
We're talking about justlearning history, like things
they had to do the hard way.

(20:26):
Whereas Gen Z, which is what Iwould categorize these young
women as.

SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
Is that what they are?

SPEAKER_04 (20:31):
Yes.
I would categorize them as GenZ.
And they don't have to do thingsthe hard way anymore.
Meaning, who the heck deals withcash anymore?
And who doesn't have asmartphone that they can whip
out and find whateverinformation they need.

SPEAKER_01 (20:52):
So it doesn't mean you shouldn't know how to do it.

SPEAKER_04 (20:56):
I'm not saying that.

SPEAKER_01 (20:57):
It's not.
It's basic math.

SPEAKER_04 (21:00):
I'm not saying that it's not a life skill that you
should have.
For sure it is.
But it's not one that was everpressed upon them like it was in
previous generations.

SPEAKER_01 (21:08):
Our kiddo learned about counting coins.

SPEAKER_04 (21:12):
for like a few weeks in school, like cursive.
Cursive was like a few weeks inschool for her, but not as
in-depth as it was for us whenwe were in school because it was
pressed upon us, whereas it'snot on Gen Z.
So all this to say these lovelyyoung women did not know how to
count coins, weren't sure abouthistorical facts, and they were

(21:35):
making fun of themselves,honestly.
They were laughing about all

SPEAKER_01 (21:39):
the things.
And we were too, but I was stillscared.

SPEAKER_04 (21:42):
But I mean, you know, they were trying to make
light of it.
And it's because to me, theirgeneration, it's not pressed
upon anymore.

SPEAKER_01 (21:51):
I disagree with that.
You still have to know math.
That's basic math.

SPEAKER_03 (21:57):
What's

SPEAKER_01 (21:57):
the copper coin is one cent.
The big silver one is 25 cent.

SPEAKER_04 (22:05):
Right, so when you...

SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
So 25 plus 1 is 26.
It's basic math.
It makes me angry.

SPEAKER_04 (22:15):
To an extent,

SPEAKER_01 (22:17):
right?
No, because then these schools,they wonder why parents get up
in arms when they start pushingsocial policy upon people.
It's like you can't even teachthem how to count coins.
I get it.
And why the hell are youteaching them these social
policies but not math?

SPEAKER_04 (22:36):
Well, it's like that's where our next...
What do I want to say?
Next iteration of society lies.
It feels like everything isabout social issues now.

SPEAKER_01 (22:47):
And it shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_04 (22:48):
Whereas before, like what we're saying is it was
really pressed upon us to knowhow to count coins, how to do
cursive historical facts.

SPEAKER_01 (22:57):
Do they even do shop class anymore?
I

SPEAKER_04 (23:00):
don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (23:01):
I know in Florida they do a lot of farming
classes, though.

SPEAKER_04 (23:04):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (23:05):
Which is smart.

SPEAKER_04 (23:06):
Future Farmers of America, FFA, I think is what

SPEAKER_01 (23:08):
it is.

SPEAKER_04 (23:09):
I had never heard of that.
Living in Virginia, in D.C.
area, like, I had no clue.

SPEAKER_01 (23:16):
I don't remember doing shop in high school.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I do.
I lied.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_04 (23:21):
Yeah, me too.
I remember.
And I remember that and inmiddle school.
I made a little tic-tac-toething in middle school.
Anyways, the emphasis for wherethey are...
focusing on what to teach thenext generation, I think is just
going to keep evolving, keepchanging.
Because having information atyour fingertips and then the
idea of us going to a cashlesssociety, I mean, it's just not

(23:44):
something that they're focusingon with this generation.
Which

SPEAKER_02 (23:48):
is wrong.

SPEAKER_04 (23:48):
It'll be really interesting to me to see how the
next generation evolves, how ourkiddos' education evolves, how
these people, these young peoplethat...
have so much at theirfingertips.

SPEAKER_01 (24:04):
How

SPEAKER_04 (24:04):
they rule the country.

SPEAKER_01 (24:06):
It's strange to me that we have so much knowledge
with the internet and easilyaccess that knowledge with the
cell phone that we're dumber asa society.

SPEAKER_04 (24:20):
I

SPEAKER_01 (24:21):
think it makes you dumber.

SPEAKER_04 (24:23):
I can agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 (24:24):
More dumb.

SPEAKER_04 (24:26):
As I look at my phone to figure out our next
topic.

SPEAKER_01 (24:29):
You're saving paper.
So you saved a tree today.
I'm proud of you.

SPEAKER_04 (24:38):
Okay, we're in fine form today.
This is great.
All right.
So I saw this article the otherday about Tampa's tiny homes.

SPEAKER_01 (24:51):
I want one.

SPEAKER_04 (24:53):
So there's a community center.
I'm looking at my phone as Iread this.
There's a 7,000 square footbuilding that broke ground on
Monday and when complete.
Oh, thank you.
It'll be a hub for Tampa Hoperesidents to access services.
But currently, there are 1,100clients since December 2021 that

(25:15):
have now received permanenthousing, whether that is tiny
homes or shelter comprised of atent.
So essentially what they'retrying to do is take the
homeless off the streets ofTampa, give them these tiny
homes for them to live in and ora shelter, but they're also

(25:36):
building a ginormous buildingThat's going to provide services
like if you were to live in anactual community.
Right.
Yeah.
So this is awesome to me.
Like, I can't imagine.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (25:49):
But did you say that they were offering them tents,
too?

SPEAKER_04 (25:52):
Well, yeah, for now.
I

SPEAKER_01 (25:53):
couldn't live in a tent in Florida.

SPEAKER_04 (25:56):
I know it.
That

SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
would be hot.
It's outside.

SPEAKER_04 (26:00):
Very hot.

SPEAKER_01 (26:02):
One ten the other day.

SPEAKER_04 (26:04):
Oh yeah.
With the heat index.

SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
Yeah.
We went to the beach and it wasmelty.

SPEAKER_04 (26:10):
So I'm going to get off topic.
Let me come back.

SPEAKER_01 (26:13):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (26:13):
Hold on one second.

SPEAKER_01 (26:14):
Kanye.
Let me finish.

SPEAKER_04 (26:18):
Let me come back to this, but it's all based on, um,
I believe it's a nonprofit, notfor profit organization.
That's doing all of this.
That's doing the groundbreakingof the building and providing
all of these sites.
Like this is a good idea to me.

SPEAKER_01 (26:32):
I like it.

SPEAKER_04 (26:34):
And I, I think the idea of providing a place and
they're not huge houses.
I mean, like they're, you know,probably one of those like small
storage container.

SPEAKER_01 (26:43):
Yeah.
But is there a toilet in there?
Is there a shower?
Is there a AC and heat when itgets cold?
Cause it does get cold at nightsometimes.
Yeah.
I mean, a balmy 70.

SPEAKER_04 (26:57):
Below 60 is too cold.

SPEAKER_01 (26:59):
Oh my God.

SPEAKER_04 (26:59):
But I don't know.
I feel like if this works right,then we, Why can't that be more
wide scale?
If there are organizations whocan produce this type of
housing...
Do

SPEAKER_01 (27:11):
you know the company name?
Because I think I...

SPEAKER_04 (27:13):
Tampa Hope.

SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
Oh, okay.
I...
At one of my jobs, I worked witha company that did stuff like
this, except I believe...
I can't remember 100%, but Ithink it was from California.
They were doing something verysimilar.

SPEAKER_04 (27:31):
Yeah, I think

SPEAKER_01 (27:32):
the...
Modular tiny homes.

SPEAKER_04 (27:33):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (27:35):
That...
I mean, it's just like a...
It's almost like apartment-sizedhouses, 800 square feet.

SPEAKER_04 (27:43):
I think this is smaller

SPEAKER_01 (27:44):
than that.
In like a village.

SPEAKER_04 (27:46):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (27:46):
I thought that was cool, though.

SPEAKER_04 (27:47):
You're also creating that community for them, like
having nearby people that cansupport each

SPEAKER_01 (27:53):
other.
Yeah, well, and they should havea big building, a community
center with mental healthsupport.

UNKNOWN (28:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (28:01):
Events like games and just like team building
exercises have career day there.
Things like that try to getpeople off the streets and
self-sufficient.

SPEAKER_04 (28:16):
Yep.
So I think it's an amazing idea.
And it does sound like they'remodeling it after something that
they are doing in New York, too,for their homeless.

SPEAKER_01 (28:23):
Maybe it was New York.

SPEAKER_04 (28:25):
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (28:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (28:27):
I can't remember.
It was a bigger state.
It was a huge, huge state.
I just can't remember.
Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 (28:35):
Yeah, but I mean, if this catches on, imagine what it
would do for a

SPEAKER_01 (28:40):
community.
I have no issues with thisstuff, but you have to
promote...
Moving up.

SPEAKER_04 (28:49):
Well, promote wellness, right?

SPEAKER_01 (28:51):
Promote wellness and promote self-sufficiency because
eventually you're going to runout of space and you're going
to, somebody's going to be inthere that could be
self-sufficient and take away aspot for someone that actually
does need it.
So you got to promote that.
You can't just say, here's ahouse.

SPEAKER_04 (29:11):
No, I agree.
There has to be some, what do Iwant to say?

UNKNOWN (29:16):
Some,

SPEAKER_04 (29:17):
Ability, some way to reach a path where you can go
out on your own and obtainsomething that you do own for
yourself.
And I agree, but I can't imaginethis being a step in any
direction other than the rightone.

SPEAKER_01 (29:34):
I just, I don't either, but I can see people,
humans.
Not all of them.

SPEAKER_04 (29:42):
There you

SPEAKER_01 (29:42):
go.
But you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_04 (29:43):
We need another shirt.

SPEAKER_01 (29:44):
Humans are

SPEAKER_04 (29:45):
shit.
There you go.

SPEAKER_01 (29:46):
It's just people will take advantage of it.
I hear you.
And remove the ability forsomeone that truly needs it from
getting it.
And that's crap.

SPEAKER_04 (29:57):
I hear you.
You said something earlier thatI totally cut you off.

SPEAKER_01 (30:02):
That's normal.

SPEAKER_04 (30:04):
Oh,

SPEAKER_01 (30:06):
is it?
Yes.

SPEAKER_04 (30:06):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
Yes.
So, dude, that reminds me ofthat meme I showed you today.
What would you do if your wifeapologized to you?
I'm sorry, my wife did what?

SPEAKER_04 (30:20):
Whatever.
Whatever.
I'm

SPEAKER_01 (30:24):
sorry, what?

SPEAKER_04 (30:25):
She did what?
This relationship is built onlove and trust, okay?
Have you seen the new AirPods?

SPEAKER_01 (30:35):
What AirPods?

SPEAKER_04 (30:36):
There's new AirPods coming out.
I guess Apple introduced them.
And instead of just being thelittle pack, right, that you put
your AirPods in, the front caseof your AirPods is going to have
an interactive screen.

SPEAKER_01 (30:53):
JBL already has that.

SPEAKER_04 (30:55):
Well, to me, this is iPod Nano.
Reborn.

SPEAKER_01 (31:02):
I don't think that's true.
Why?
I think you got fake news.

SPEAKER_04 (31:06):
Nuh-uh.

SPEAKER_01 (31:07):
Yeah, you did.
I bet you did.
I will show you.
JBL has it already, and Applehas not announced anything about
new pairs of AirPods lately.

SPEAKER_04 (31:18):
Apple researching.
AirPod case with built-ininteractive screen.

SPEAKER_01 (31:22):
Yeah, but that right there is a mock-up that somebody
made.
Look up JBL ones.
Those are actually real.
You can buy them right

SPEAKER_04 (31:29):
now.
AirPods 3 leak.

UNKNOWN (31:30):
Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_04 (31:31):
AirPods 2 with screen.
Maybe I did get fake news.
I'm pretty sure you did.
AI got me.

SPEAKER_01 (31:39):
But...
I do like that idea because itis.
So this is this is a wholenother topic.
Hit me.
But you're removing technology.
You're you're packing all thistechnology into something that's
dumb, like headphones.
So if you can pack that thingfull of music and the only thing

(32:00):
you do on your phone is music.
Obviously, most people talk andtext and all that stuff.
you are removing one crutch thatyou have with your phone, with
your device.
Smartphone addiction is real.

SPEAKER_04 (32:16):
I knew that's where you were going.

SPEAKER_01 (32:17):
Oh, yeah.
I have been researching andtrying to find a smartphone.
Not a smartphone, but a hybridsmartphone, if you will.

SPEAKER_04 (32:29):
To be dumb.

SPEAKER_01 (32:30):
I want it to be dumb, but I also want it to be
able to do certain things.
Because my work requires me tohave access to the internet and
things like that.
So I need semi-smart.
But I also want it to be dumbenough to where it's kind of a
pain in the ass to use.

(32:51):
So Cat, the freaking tractorpeople, they have a phone called
the Cat S22.

SPEAKER_04 (32:59):
Wait, Cat, like the heavy machinery?
Yes.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (33:03):
They have a phone.
It's called the Cat S22.
It is a flip phone that runsAndroid Go.
So I can have Gmail.
I can have Google Chat, all thatstuff on it.
I am very close to getting thatthing because I admittedly have
a major smartphone addiction.

(33:25):
It's not good.
I wake up in the morning.
I grab my phone instantly.
Or before bed, I have to read myphone.
But if I get this phone with ascreen that's this freaking big,
I think it's like a two inchscreen, right?
I'm not going to want to dothat.

UNKNOWN (33:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (33:45):
You're addicted to it, too.
Just not as bad as me.

SPEAKER_04 (33:48):
Well, I think anyone who has a smartphone is addicted
to it.

SPEAKER_01 (33:52):
I know.
It's like a crutch.
Do you get the weird feelingwhen you don't have it on you?
I get a weird feeling.

SPEAKER_04 (34:02):
I mean, I guess it depends on where I'm at, what
I'm doing.

SPEAKER_01 (34:04):
If you leave the house without your phone, you're
like...

SPEAKER_04 (34:07):
Again, it depends.
If I'm just going to the grocerystore, no, I don't care.
But if I'm going to...
Two hours away.
No, need it.

SPEAKER_01 (34:18):
It's just weird.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (34:21):
I'm going to WikiWatch.
I'm going to need it for GPS.
I'm going to need it for music.
I'm going to need it to callsomebody.

SPEAKER_01 (34:27):
Well, see, that's the beauty of this S22 also.
It will work with your CarPlayor Android Auto.
It'll work with all that.
You said

SPEAKER_04 (34:36):
Android Auto.
You got to say the other one,too.

UNKNOWN (34:39):
What?

SPEAKER_04 (34:40):
Apple.

SPEAKER_01 (34:40):
I said CarPlay.

SPEAKER_04 (34:41):
Oh, is that a thing?
Yeah.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (34:43):
But the screen is so small that using it for anything
else is almost like, you can.
You can web browse on it, but ithas a T9 keyboard.
So it's not something thatyou're going to want to sit
there and, you know, shoot outmessages.
We should have a competition.
I'll burn your ass up.

SPEAKER_04 (35:01):
I don't know.
We're so out of practice,though.

SPEAKER_01 (35:04):
I know.

SPEAKER_04 (35:04):
Like, when you and I first started dating, T9 was how
you texted.

SPEAKER_01 (35:09):
Well, what was weird is I couldn't figure out T9 back
then.

SPEAKER_04 (35:14):
What do you mean?
I

SPEAKER_01 (35:15):
had to turn it off because I couldn't figure out
that.
You just type, like, if it'sthe...
You don't push the buttonsmultiple times to get to your
letter.
You just auto go to the buttonwith the letter on it.
This is confusing as hell to sayout loud.

SPEAKER_04 (35:35):
I don't think you're saying it right.

SPEAKER_01 (35:36):
Yeah.
Okay.
So if you need to hit, I don'thave a freaking phone with a
numpad on it, but if you wanteda letter that was the third
letter in, you type that, youhit that button three times.

SPEAKER_02 (35:47):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (35:48):
With T9, you don't do that.
You hit each letter.
For

SPEAKER_04 (35:54):
each button for the, so you would hit, I forget what
it is, nine, nine, five, three,right?
And it would come up with the.

SPEAKER_01 (36:03):
But I could never get that through my head back
then because I always wanted tohit.

SPEAKER_04 (36:08):
Three times, nine, three

SPEAKER_01 (36:10):
times, five.
Yes.
So I would screw up.
I'm like, why is this doing it?
So I turn it off on every phone.
So I was texting you with no T9.

UNKNOWN (36:19):
What?

SPEAKER_01 (36:20):
And we racked up $1,000 phone bills each.

SPEAKER_04 (36:25):
No, mine was only five something.

SPEAKER_01 (36:27):
My parents were mad at me.

SPEAKER_04 (36:28):
It was like 530.
My parents were pissed,

SPEAKER_01 (36:31):
too.
They were mad, but at the sametime, they were happy that I had
a girlfriend.

SPEAKER_04 (36:34):
They were

SPEAKER_01 (36:34):
like, oh, my God.
Thank God.

SPEAKER_04 (36:37):
Little did they know I would be your only girlfriend.

SPEAKER_01 (36:41):
I know.
I didn't want to go

SPEAKER_04 (36:43):
on the back dating.
We actually talked about thatrecently.
Like, could you imagine datingtoday?
As

SPEAKER_01 (36:52):
an adult?

SPEAKER_04 (36:54):
As an adult.

SPEAKER_01 (36:55):
Man, I got to go to bed at 830.
I got to figure out who's goingto be out.
Who goes to the bars at likeseven?
Right.
It's still light outside andyou're at the bar.
The sun starts going down andthe streetlights come on.
You just have to start

SPEAKER_04 (37:11):
dating in the villages because they're the
only ones who work or who are upat your hours.

SPEAKER_01 (37:17):
Yeah.
If the price is right, turns offand you got to go to bed, that
means you're an adult.

SPEAKER_04 (37:23):
There you go.

SPEAKER_01 (37:24):
I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_04 (37:25):
Nope.
Nope.
I have no desire.

SPEAKER_01 (37:28):
Not price is right.
Wheel of fortune.
There you go.
Right after wheel of fortune injeopardy.
You got to get ready

SPEAKER_04 (37:32):
to retire.

SPEAKER_01 (37:33):
Sajak?
Yeah.
He already did.
His last episode was two weeksago, I think.

SPEAKER_04 (37:39):
Aww.

SPEAKER_01 (37:39):
He already got him a new gig, though.

SPEAKER_04 (37:41):
Well, is Will of Fortune still happening?

SPEAKER_01 (37:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (37:44):
Oh.
Who is it?

SPEAKER_01 (37:45):
Ryan Seacrest.

SPEAKER_04 (37:46):
Is it?

SPEAKER_01 (37:46):
Yeah.
It makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 (37:48):
That's on brand.

SPEAKER_01 (37:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (37:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (37:51):
He's pretty.

SPEAKER_04 (37:53):
He really is, though.
Okay.
Stranger Things.
Dun, dun, dun.

SPEAKER_01 (38:00):
Yeah, I mean, it's been out for how long at this
point?
And I just caught up, so spoileralert.
And if you don't want to hearabout Stranger Things, then you
need to turn this off or fastforward.

SPEAKER_04 (38:12):
I don't understand why it took you this long.
I asked you, what, a year and ahalf ago to watch it with me.

SPEAKER_01 (38:19):
Yes.

SPEAKER_04 (38:19):
And you said no.

SPEAKER_01 (38:21):
Well.

SPEAKER_04 (38:21):
And then I finally got you to watch it, what, in
the past month.

SPEAKER_01 (38:25):
And we watched all of it in like three days.

SPEAKER_04 (38:27):
We binged it, yeah.
But why did it take you so long?

SPEAKER_01 (38:31):
Well, you know what's super weird, too, is I
had a friend at a previous jobwho kept telling me to watch it.
He's like, you got Netflix?
I said, yeah.
He said, watch Stranger Things.
It's insane.
I was like, I don't know.
I kind of dismissed it.
But now that I watched it, I'mlike, man, what have I done?

SPEAKER_04 (38:53):
It's good.
But season five is coming outnext year, 2025.
Yeah, they'll

SPEAKER_01 (38:58):
be 35 years old.

SPEAKER_04 (39:00):
Yeah.
Millie Bobby Brown is supposedto be, what, 12, maybe 13.
And she's a full grown woman.
It just don't.

SPEAKER_01 (39:07):
Well, it cracks me up that they tried to, like,
dress them to where they stilllook like kids.
I'm like, it's obvious.

SPEAKER_04 (39:13):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (39:14):
Good Lord.

SPEAKER_04 (39:15):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (39:16):
Yep.
You guys are.
She's

SPEAKER_04 (39:17):
a curvy lady.
Yep.
Well,

SPEAKER_01 (39:19):
it's not just that either.
They all are looking mature.

SPEAKER_04 (39:23):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (39:24):
Like you can tell.
I mean, they had to wax theirfaces because they got facial
hair coming in and all thatstuff.
I don't know.
But it was wild.

SPEAKER_04 (39:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (39:35):
I

SPEAKER_04 (39:35):
think

SPEAKER_01 (39:35):
I liked it a lot.
I Okay, I liked it a lot, but Ido think season four was a
little bit of a tack on.
Now, the creator said thatthey've had this written
forever.
One through five.
But I don't know.
It just seems very tacked on.

(39:56):
Not that it's bad, because itwas good.

SPEAKER_04 (39:59):
It feels like an amendment to season one through
three.
One through three was verylinear.
It made sense.
It's progressing with the bad,right?
But then you get to season four,and it's like, oh, wait, we
forgot to tell you about allthis.

SPEAKER_01 (40:11):
Right.
And...
there was flashbacks that theywere trying to make a story out
of something that didn't happenin one through three, but you've
already seen the flashbacks inseason one.
And then they're amending allthose flashbacks

SPEAKER_04 (40:29):
because you forgot.

SPEAKER_01 (40:30):
Yeah.
Right.
It was like almost a cop out,but it was good.
It was just tacked on to me.

SPEAKER_04 (40:36):
Yep.
I agree.
I think that it's, only there.
The only reason why they didthat is so that they could have
a season five.

SPEAKER_01 (40:45):
See, and I don't...
From what they say, they had itwritten.

SPEAKER_04 (40:48):
I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_01 (40:49):
I don't know.
I feel

SPEAKER_04 (40:51):
like they were on one trip for season one through
three, and then they took asecond psychedelic for season
four and possibly a new one forseason five.
So it might not be totallycohesive like we hoped it would
be or thought it would be,but...
I don't know.
It just felt like two separatethoughts.

SPEAKER_01 (41:11):
I agree.
Still good.
Yeah, I still liked it.
It was almost like they shouldhave did a spinoff.

SPEAKER_03 (41:18):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (41:18):
With different characters.

SPEAKER_03 (41:20):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (41:21):
For this...
Because season four and seasonfive, they're about a new big
bad that exists in the upsidedown, which is the alternate
dimension.
But we didn't know about thisbig bad in season one through
three.

SPEAKER_04 (41:37):
Right.
Don't make

SPEAKER_01 (41:39):
sense.
I want to know.
Why every character in a damnshow cannot just gradually take
off in a car or stop nicely.

SPEAKER_04 (41:50):
Oh, we got to kick up gravel,

SPEAKER_01 (41:52):
kick up gravel and then break their necks when they
stop.
I don't get it.
My how many how many whiplashtreatments did you guys have to
go through on

SPEAKER_04 (42:00):
set?

SPEAKER_01 (42:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (42:04):
So who's your favorite character?

SPEAKER_01 (42:06):
That's a toughie.
I like a lot of them.
I like Dustin.
I like Steve Harrington.
I'm trying to think.
I mean, everybody likes Ellejust because she's the she's a
badass.
But Max is cool.
I like all of them, really.
It

SPEAKER_04 (42:26):
is so well casted.

SPEAKER_01 (42:28):
Yeah, there's there's no I mean, there's
hateable people in there.
Like, what was her name fromthis season?
That was the bully, Angela orsomething like that.
She was a twat

SPEAKER_04 (42:38):
from season four.

SPEAKER_01 (42:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Season four.
She was she bullied Elle and.
I mean, she got her head crackedwith a damn skate.

SPEAKER_04 (42:47):
Let's talk about that for a second.
So you have an agitator.
You have Angela, right?
Who's the bully of Elle.
Again, spoilers if you're not.

SPEAKER_01 (42:58):
I already said it.

SPEAKER_04 (42:58):
I've already seen it.
But anyways, so you have Angela.
She's bullying Elle literallythe entire school year.
And

SPEAKER_01 (43:07):
getting physical, too.

SPEAKER_04 (43:08):
Right.
It gets so bad at one point thatthey're actually throwing
milkshakes on her.
They make her fall at a skatingrink like they are relentlessly
bullying her.

SPEAKER_01 (43:21):
Yeah, it's so she

SPEAKER_04 (43:22):
L not being, you know, of societal norms.
Right.
She takes an action.
She smacks the girl in the face

SPEAKER_02 (43:32):
with a skate,

SPEAKER_04 (43:32):
with a roller skate.

UNKNOWN (43:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (43:34):
She's bleeding.
It's a lot.
But is she validated?

SPEAKER_01 (43:43):
I think she's validated after they physically
touched her.
And by throwing something at herand onto her and then knocking
her down, that's physical.
Once you get physical, it's fairgame to get physical back.

SPEAKER_04 (43:58):
To an extent, right?

SPEAKER_01 (43:59):
I'm not saying that she needs to get a samurai
sword.

SPEAKER_04 (44:02):
Right.
I just want to be clear.
No,

SPEAKER_01 (44:04):
I mean, you punch her in the face.
I mean, hitting her with askate, that's pretty rough.

SPEAKER_04 (44:08):
Well, I mean, she used what she had.
But it just feels like...
A lot of people, well, Ishouldn't say a lot of people,
in the show, right?
It was like, oh my God, I can'tbelieve she did that.

SPEAKER_01 (44:19):
I know, that pissed me off.
It's

SPEAKER_04 (44:20):
like, this girl's been terrorizing her.

SPEAKER_01 (44:23):
And everybody saw it in the skating rink.

SPEAKER_04 (44:25):
Right, and she's the bad one?
No, no, no, no, no,

SPEAKER_01 (44:29):
no.
They were just treating her likethat because she was a weirdo.

SPEAKER_04 (44:32):
Right, so in real life, if this were to occur in
real life, someone is bullyingsomeone and the bullied took an
action- Have

SPEAKER_01 (44:44):
you seen the videos on YouTube?
Those are some of my favoritevideos.

SPEAKER_04 (44:48):
Where the bully gets karma?

SPEAKER_01 (44:50):
Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_04 (44:52):
Don't be a bully.

SPEAKER_01 (44:53):
That's

SPEAKER_04 (44:54):
our

SPEAKER_01 (44:54):
message.
Piece of garbage.

SPEAKER_04 (44:55):
Don't be a bully.
Anyway, so my favoritecharacters.
Elle is number one.
Like you said, everybody lovesElle.
But Max is my number two.

SPEAKER_01 (45:04):
I like her.
I

SPEAKER_04 (45:05):
love Max.
Her story is amazing.

SPEAKER_01 (45:09):
I didn't like her at the beginning of season four.

SPEAKER_04 (45:12):
Well, she went through a lot.
I

SPEAKER_01 (45:15):
know.
I know.
I

SPEAKER_04 (45:16):
feel like my teenage self back, you know, in all
those years ago, so old

SPEAKER_01 (45:21):
when you didn't know how to count coins.

SPEAKER_04 (45:22):
Right.
No, I always knew.
But that like identified withthat kind of story.
I mean, not that I went throughtrauma like she did, but, you
know, you identify with being amelancholy teen.
Right.
And then to see her be brave andovercome.
And like that's a.

(45:43):
A beautiful story.

SPEAKER_01 (45:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (45:45):
I really like her.
She's my number two.

SPEAKER_01 (45:47):
Yeah.
Joyce

SPEAKER_04 (45:48):
is my number three.

SPEAKER_01 (45:49):
I didn't really like Billy.

SPEAKER_04 (45:54):
No, nobody does.

SPEAKER_01 (45:55):
I know.
It's

SPEAKER_04 (45:56):
almost like they went too far with

SPEAKER_01 (45:58):
him.
Yes.

SPEAKER_04 (45:59):
Because he is such a hateable character.
There's no redeeming him.

SPEAKER_01 (46:04):
But you're supposed to almost feel bad because Max
felt bad that he died, right?

SPEAKER_04 (46:11):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (46:13):
But he treated Max like complete garbage.

SPEAKER_04 (46:17):
There's no redeeming.

SPEAKER_01 (46:18):
So I felt like I'm like, I don't know how she feels
so bad

SPEAKER_02 (46:23):
that

SPEAKER_01 (46:24):
he got it because he I mean, he bullied her.
And did he get physical withher?
I think they kind of insinuated.
But yeah, it was like, I don'tknow.
Max, I don't get why you're sodepressed about him.

SPEAKER_04 (46:43):
Well, and she kind of says it

SPEAKER_01 (46:45):
throughout the season.
Because she wanted him to die.

SPEAKER_04 (46:48):
Right.
To some extent, some unconsciouspsychological reason.
She's like, eh.

SPEAKER_01 (46:54):
I mean, pretty valid reason.
Right.
If you ask me.
Agreed.
The dude treated her and madeher feel good.
her life a living hell.

SPEAKER_04 (47:01):
Which villain was your favorite of the four
seasons so far?

SPEAKER_01 (47:06):
Vecna.

SPEAKER_04 (47:08):
I have a problem with that.

SPEAKER_01 (47:10):
Why?

SPEAKER_04 (47:10):
All of the villains through all four seasons, well,
let's say the first threeseasons, right?
They didn't have a human form,right?
They're monsters.

SPEAKER_02 (47:22):
That's what makes them scary.

SPEAKER_04 (47:24):
Then you get Vecna, and he's of human form.
And it's just like...
Don't personify the bad guy.
Let him be a monster.

SPEAKER_01 (47:33):
I think they're doing that because you have to
put a face to the final battle.
Like, we're going to end it allhere.

SPEAKER_04 (47:40):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (47:40):
No, I agree.
I think the mind flared thingand being smoke, mysterious,
just...

SPEAKER_04 (47:48):
Right.
You can't defeat it.
It feels undefeatable.

SPEAKER_01 (47:52):
Well, maybe that's why they did it.

SPEAKER_04 (47:54):
How do you kill it?
I don't like

SPEAKER_01 (47:59):
it.
I mean, I enjoyed, I enjoy Vecnathough, because of see the
amended parts.
L's story with Vecna is reallycool.
Like she, not only did she openthe gate, But she sent this dude
to some random ass dimension.
Then she...

SPEAKER_04 (48:20):
She unleashed him

SPEAKER_01 (48:21):
first.
She unleashed him.
She pulled the suppressant thingout of his neck meat, sent him
to an alternate dimension afterhe goes on a murderous rampage.

SPEAKER_03 (48:30):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (48:31):
And then essentially gives him a home when she opened
the gate a second time.

SPEAKER_04 (48:35):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (48:37):
It's so weird.

SPEAKER_04 (48:38):
And I don't agree with all that either, but that's
way too deep.
We're not going to that today.

SPEAKER_01 (48:42):
Well...
I will say, though, how do youthink it's going to end?
You go first.

SPEAKER_04 (48:48):
I don't know, honestly.
I feel like every season I'vekind of been surprised,
honestly, because I don't knowanything about Dungeons&
Dragons.
I don't know anything about...
Well,

SPEAKER_01 (49:00):
it's all loose on Dungeons& Dragons.
It's just...
It's not like one for oneDungeons and Dragons stuff.

SPEAKER_04 (49:08):
Well, I'm also not big into like reading Reddit
like you are and diving into allthese theories.
And I just, I don't do it.
So to me, it's always asurprise.
But the only thing I canforesee, and it's a big trope,
right?
In all sci-fi type series is Lhas to die in order for the

(49:29):
upside down to go away, thealternate dimension to go away.
Like that is how I foresee thishappening.

SPEAKER_01 (49:34):
I don't know.
I feel like that's pushing it.
I don't think they're going todo that.

SPEAKER_04 (49:41):
That is the only way I can see this happening because
she's the reason why it wascreated.
Huh?
She got to die.

SPEAKER_01 (49:48):
Yeah, she did create the upside down for sure.
But I don't think that they'regoing to kill her.
I think that...
The mind flayer is going tobreak loose.
From

SPEAKER_03 (50:00):
Vecna.

SPEAKER_01 (50:01):
Because currently Vecna is like the supreme.
He's like God in the UpsideDown.
He's the mind of everythingthere.
And I feel like the mind flayeris being controlled by Vecna.
But he's not going to want to becontrolled by Vecna anymore.
He's going to break loose, killthat fool.

(50:22):
And maybe they have some kind offight, but they both destroy
each other.
And then it's over because thenall you have left are those
demogorgons and they're justpredatory.
They're like rabid dogs.
They're not smart

SPEAKER_04 (50:38):
worker bees.

SPEAKER_01 (50:39):
Yeah, they're not smart.
So, okay.
They're not going to just comeout of the upside down to go on
a rampage.
They're not smart like that.

SPEAKER_04 (50:47):
Well, the analogy that you said where Vecna is
God.
Okay.
Well, L is like Jesus then whereshe's going to have to be the
sacrificed one to end it all.

SPEAKER_01 (50:55):
Yeah.
But Vecna is evil.
God's not evil.

SPEAKER_04 (51:00):
No, he's not.
It was your analogy.

SPEAKER_01 (51:04):
I'm saying he's the god of hell, essentially.

SPEAKER_04 (51:07):
Okay, so he's the devil is what you should have
said.

SPEAKER_01 (51:08):
The upside down is...

SPEAKER_04 (51:10):
But regardless, L is the one who will have to be
sacrificed in order for it toall end.
I

SPEAKER_01 (51:14):
don't think so.
I hope not.
A lot of people say that she'sgoing to have to close it from
the inside and da da da.
It's a trope.
It's the typical trope.
And I don't think they're goingto do that.
This whole show has been likebreaking new ground.
I doubt they're going to dosomething that's like standard
sci-fi ending.
Right.

(51:34):
Like Armageddon.

SPEAKER_04 (51:35):
I hope not.

SPEAKER_01 (51:37):
Bruce Willis' character.
He's got to stay behind and blowit up because the freaking
technology's not there.

SPEAKER_04 (51:44):
I like that.

SPEAKER_01 (51:45):
The technology's not there, and the remote control
thing busted.

SPEAKER_04 (51:50):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (51:51):
No.
Yeah.
I doubt they're going to dothat.

SPEAKER_04 (51:53):
That's the only way I can see it happening.

SPEAKER_01 (51:55):
And one other thing, I believe they said, the
creators, somebody related tothe show, they said, we're not
Game of Thrones.
We don't have to kill people tomake a good story.
And I was like, thank you.
Kill Vecna, though.

SPEAKER_04 (52:07):
Well, that's the one, I guess, huh?
I have a question for you.

SPEAKER_01 (52:12):
No.
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (52:16):
I have a question for you.

SPEAKER_01 (52:18):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (52:18):
What is the opposite of water?

SPEAKER_01 (52:24):
Fire.

SPEAKER_04 (52:28):
Okay.
What if I told you that that isthe most common answer?
Fire.
But then there are other peoplewho say ice.
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (52:40):
That's not the opposite.

SPEAKER_04 (52:43):
Right.
Because it's the same form,right?
What if I told you other peoplesaid air?
Are

SPEAKER_01 (52:51):
we playing Avatar The Last Airbender?
No.

SPEAKER_04 (52:55):
It kind of sounds like it, but no.

SPEAKER_01 (52:58):
I'm on the fire side.

SPEAKER_04 (53:00):
But does air sound feasible?
I feel like that's almost thesame thing because water
evaporates into...

SPEAKER_01 (53:07):
I don't know.
Okay,

SPEAKER_04 (53:09):
last one.
There was a meme where a womansaid, sand.

SPEAKER_02 (53:19):
What?

SPEAKER_04 (53:21):
She said the opposite of wet is dry, so sand?
I almost feel like there'ssomething there, though.

SPEAKER_01 (53:27):
I don't.

SPEAKER_04 (53:27):
Okay.
Well, that's my thought

SPEAKER_01 (53:30):
for the end of our...
Sand can be wet.

UNKNOWN (53:33):
Yes.

SPEAKER_04 (53:34):
But is it wet, though?
Because it's not absorbing intothe sand particle too much.

SPEAKER_01 (53:38):
Go out there and pick up some wet sand and tell
me if there's a difference.

SPEAKER_04 (53:44):
I'm glad we had

SPEAKER_01 (53:45):
this

SPEAKER_00 (53:48):
talk.
Love you.

(54:14):
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