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Episode Transcript

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Foreign.
You're listening to the MasterPassive Income Podcast Network.
Welcome to the Master PassiveIncome Show.
My name is Dustin Heiner andI'm here to help you get financial
independence.
Afford anything you want inlife by investing in real estate
and creating passive income.
And in today's show I am superpumped to bring on a fantastic real

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estate investor who as a stayat home mom bought property after
property, eventually hadenough properties to help her husband
quit his job and now they arefinancially independent.
They're going to show us howthey did it and how you can do it
as well.
All right, let's start the show.

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Welcome to the Master PassiveIncome podcast where we talk about
investing in real estate witha special focus on making enough
money so you can quit your joband live the dream life.
And now here is your host,Dustin Heiner.

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What's up?
What's up?
Super blessed as always tohave you here with me on the show.
Now I am excited to bring onmy guest because a lot of people
think that they can't investin real estate.
Like they don't have the timeto do it.
They don't have the insights,they don't have the knowledge or,
or anything like that becausethey find that their limitations

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are really holding them back.
But they don't realize thatthese limitations are things that
they can easily get past.
My guest that I'm bringing onis a stay at home mom and she invests
in real estate and her alsohas done so well that her husband's
just about ready or by thetime this has aired now she's, he's
probably quit his job.
But because they have cashflow coming in from their properties,

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they, they're able to becomefinancially independent.
And last week I was in Africa,the country of Tanzania, on a 10
day safari with a bunch ofreal estate investors.
Now these real estateinvestors are not quote unquote experts.
They're not people who havebeen doing this for 20 years or anything
like that.
No, they're regular everydaypeople, just like me and you.

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And we got together and, andwe were masterminding together.
They were asking me loads ofquestions on how they should invest
and what they should do.
But we just had a fantastictime seeing all this amazing wildlife.
Like we saw cheetahs, we saw acheetah cub jump on one of our vans
which was super fun.

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We even saw multiple leopards,which they're rare to see.
Saw the black rhino, tons oflions, lots and lots of gazelles
and zebras.
But that was amazing seeingall that stuff in A safari, but was
even more amazing wasmasterminding with 16 other real
estate investors seeing how wecan get better, how we can grow.

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And that's the power of a mastermind.
That's the power of beingaround other people is you see what
they're doing and you see howthey invest.
In fact, Zach Zimmer, one ofmy friends who has his own podcast,
the Passive Income Life, hecame on the event, the entire safari
with us.
He even climbed MountKilimanjaro afterwards, which was

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pretty amazing.
In fact, my goal in life, Ihave two goals.
One is to never run a marathon.
I'm pretty sure I'm going todo that.
Another one is to never hikeMount Kilimanjaro.
I say that jokingly, but hereally wanted me to go on.
And I said, no, I'm not goingto do that.
But he came with me and theother real estate investors on the
safari in the Mastermind.
He, he was sharing with themso many insights that they were blown

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away at how they can investjust like he does, very easily.
And he's walking them through.
Well, honestly, this is thepower of a mastermind.
This is the power of gettingaround people that are doing things
that you want to do and howyou can help them, they can help
you.
And so you can join me in mypersonal mastermind.

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I have a mastermind summitcoming up.
It's going to be in DenverSeptember 19th through the 21st,
fly out the 22nd, but 19ththrough the 21st, we're going to
be masterminding with 15 otherreal estate investors.
I have a couple spots left,and if you want to be with me, number
one, you know, be around meand all of my friends.

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I'm bringing Tom Sylvester,Michael Kwan and Adam Carroll, three
amazing guys that are in mypersonal mastermind.
I've been masterminding withthem for seven years, man, it's been
that long.
But we've grown so much in,are investing in our lives because
of masterminding together.
Well, you can join us and be apart of the mastermind that we're
putting on to help you getout, basically to break through and

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get past all of theseroadblocks, as well as coach you
as well.
You've given you insights andwalk you through even doing hot seats.
That's where you jump on thehot seat.
You're sharing what yourproblems are, your hang ups or you,
your roadblocks, or I can'tget this deal, or I can't get that
deal.
And then all of the expertsweigh in.
And try to help you get pastthose roadblocks.

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We have so many amazing thingsthat we're doing for this Mastermind
Summit.
You don't want to miss it.
Check the link in the description.
Go to masterpassiveincome.commastermind all one word.
Masterpassiveincome.commastermind the link will be in the
description.
But you need to be in theright room with, with the experts
that are currently doing it.

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And you guys know I don't doone on one coaching anymore.
I have my students.
They now became coaches.
We have three coaches now thatare students.
We have four total, includingthe multifamily investing coaching
that we do here at MasterPassive Income.
And with all of these people,you're gonna be getting so much coaching,
so much insights, as well asbe masterminding with other investors

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who are at your level whereyou guys can hopefully mastermind
or invest together or partnertogether on deals.
The magic is being in theright room and I am putting you in
that right room again.
Join me in Denver, Colorado,September 19th through the 22nd.
Check the link in the description.
MasterPassiveIncome.comMastermind now in today's show, I

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am bringing on a fantasticexpert who has just bought property
after property after propertyand, and each one making them more
and more passive income.
Where now she, as a stay athome mom bought properties and then
now has retired her husband.
She's going to show us how shedid it and how you can do it too.
I'm bringing on CaseyFranchini on the show to show you

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how anybody can do this andyou can too.
Here we go.
Thank you so much for being onthe show, Casey.
I am so excited to be here, Dustin.
I can't wait to get into ourconversation today.
Now this is fantastic.
So we connected on Instagramand honestly, like, I really hated
social media until I realizedthe power of it and then how much
fun it is.
Like now, I don't get mewrong, there's a lot of work into

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building up an Instagram following.
But when you see at least howI find, when I see people's lives
change, that man, Dustin,because of this or because of that?
Because of what you've doneand helping me to understand how
to invest.
Like I've changed my life.
That's amazing.
And so we connected there.
And then I saw that youtraveled from Tennessee all the way

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to California and back and youtook September off.
Tell me about that.
Like, tell me about that trip.
Tell me about how you can as Ahomeschool mom can do that and not
have to worry about moneycoming in.
Well, thank you for asking thequestion because I have.
No one's asked me this yet, soI'm so excited to share.

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Oh, my gosh.
So, you know, we've beeninvesting since 2016.
Hasn't been very long, but wehave found financial freedom where
work that has been very long.
Most people started in like20, 20, 21.
Don't downplay it.
202016 is great.
Yes, you're doing great.
Been a long time, but, youknow, we.
We're work optional.

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And my husband doesn't reallyhave to work.
It's very flexible.
Matter of fact, he's probablynot going to be working soon.
Like, this may be it.
I keep saying that, but thismay be it very soon for him.
And the only other thingholding us back from enjoying life
is, you know, school.
So it's like, great.
You know, your work optional.
You don't have to go to workanymore, but you have kids who have
to go to school Monday through Friday.

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So I said, you know, besidesthe traveling idea, I didn't like
a lot of things about theschool system and yada yada, my kids
are doing great in school andall that.
But I thought, you know, I cando a better job at home, you know,
especially after.
Oh, gosh.
What I bet.
I read a book dumbing us down.
Dumbing us down.
Omg.
If.
If anyone has not read, thatbook is a must read for anyone.

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Not just real estate investors.
But, you know, if you went toschool in your life, you should read
it.
So that really opened my eyesto why I shouldn't have my kids in
public school.
So last year I took them outand I said, we're going to make the
most of our life.
We have financial freedom.
We don't have to live paycheckto paycheck.
We can blow money if we want.
We don't like to blow money.
All of this year, I did buy mydrone car, cash, because I've been

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wanting it really badly for years.
It's just a gmc.
What was it?
Nothing.
Crazy gmc.
I got a Yukon, a GMC Yukon xl.
Love it.
Yeah, I'm a truck guy.
Yeah, mom car, you know, But Iwas never gonna buy a minivan.
That was a hard note for me.
So I finally got my white gmc.
Minivans are amazing, though.
We had a minivan for likeseven years.
It's like a Swiss army vehicle.

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It has everything.
It's so much room.
But anyways, go Ahead, keep going.
So, and we actually, Justinbought the car.
We had to hurry and buy itbecause we wanted to go on a trip,
and we didn't have anotherreliable vehicle.
The car I had before was a2012 GMC Acadia, and it was, like,
breaking down.
And my husband has a F150.
So I'm like, I need my new carnow, you know?

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So it was new to me.
It was barely used.
It was a couple years older.
But, oh, my God, there areover a hundred thousand new.
And I wasn't going to do that.
So we bought it.
And then six days later, wegot in the car and we said, we're
leaving town now.
I hate planning vacations.
My neighbors, my friend Marieloves to plan vacations.
I can't stand planning vacation.
So I said, let's do a tripwhere I don't have to sit and plan

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for like a month.
So I was like, why don't we goon a road trip?
And we love to go camping, butwe weren't going to do that.
Let's just get in the car, putsome clothes in.
It's September.
Bring some pants and jackets, whatever.
We'll hit up some washingmachines along the way, and let's
just go.
We'll end in Californiabecause we have some friends and
family there.
We'll spend some time with them.
That's the only thing planned.

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And I don't know how longit'll take us to get there, and I
don't know how long it'll takeus to get back.
But we hit the national parkson the way there.
We went to Sedona and theGrand Canyon, and on the way back,
we went all through Coloradoand all through Utah and did all
of that.
It was amazing.
And we happened to come backexactly four weeks later.
I was starting to feel alittle like, well, I should probably

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get home and get some stuffdone, you know?
But otherwise, I didn't missnot cooking dinner for the whole
month.
Didn't miss that at all.
Didn't miss that.
I didn't.
I'm definitely gonna eat outevery day for the rest of my life.
And I did not miss not havingto clean up at home after my kids.
So it was fantastic.
And, you know, I was talkingto one of my friends, Michael Zuber,
about it, and he's like, youknow, Casey, what does it feel like

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to you to be able to get upand go do that?
And I said, you know, it feelslike I don't have any responsibilities.
Like, the weight has lifted.
There's no burden to have tomake a paycheck.
You know, I can do what I wantand there's no stress.
It's stressless.
You know, there's stress hereand there, but as far as finances,
it's stressless and it's.

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It's all because of real estate.
If we hadn't started buyingrentals, we wouldn't be where we
are today.
I mean, I was a stay at homemom for 10 years.
It's not like we had two incomes.
My husband didn't even makesix figures.
So we were able to do all ofthis on one income, not even six
figures, you know, and six,eight years, whatever.
How long you guys been married now?
We.
Well, I'm not good at math,you know, good thing real estate's

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just adding and subtracting.
But we got married in 2009, soI want to have a long.
Awesome.
We were 2006 we got married.
So.
Yeah, then, I mean, thinkingof the same thing with me.
Even though I'm not a stay athome mom.
We have one income too.
My wife's a stay at home mom.
We homeschooled ever since the beginning.

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And so now we have five kids.
We're very blessed to havefive kids.
And the idea of investing, itwas daunting at first, you know,
where it's like, we only haveone income.
We barely have any money toafford anything.
How do we buy a property to invest?
And everybody has theseproblems that they run into.
Somebody might say, well, youhad this and you had that, but I

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don't have this.
Well, my opinion, everybodyhas something, a strategic benefit
to themselves.
Or you can call it, I thinkthe woke people call it what, like
privilege or whatever,whatever you call it.
But like, everybody hassomething that can help them get
in that direction.
They just got to find it.
And so they have to be able toput effort in behind their idea of

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like, I want to change my lifeby investing in real estate.
How did you do that?
Like being a stay at home mom,one income and then buying your first
property and that's quoteunquote risky.
Or most people think it's risky.
When I believe.
Now I know I just believe.
I know it's more risky workingfor somebody else because you'll
get fired or laid off at any time.
But how did you guys getstarted with a limited income and

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you being homeschool mom.
I know, so funny.
Okay, so I was a real estateagent in California before we moved
to Tennessee.
So nobody bought rentalproperties there.
I just help people buy and Sell.
That was it.
I worked with some investorsso I understood flips.
My dad was constantly fixingour, our house.
We lived in growing up for the10 years like it was a constant fixer.

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So I learned a lot how torehab property.
So okay, I had that, you know,knowledge under my belt.
Well, we moved to Memphis withthe promise of I could be a stay
at home mom and I wouldn'thave to work because we could afford
a house here on a single income.
What year was this?
This was 2013.
2013.
So we buy a fixer upper andwe're still living in it today, still

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fixing up just like my parentshouse still always we just put can
lights in the hallway andinstalled interior doors although
they aren't painted.
You know, one thing at a time.
But we moved here in 2013 andI had a two year old and a three
week old baby.
I knew absolutely nobody, Ihad no friends.
So being, you know,postpartum, having a brand new baby,
leaving my mommy and my daddyand my sister, I was very depressed

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and it was very, my husbandwent to work every single day, got
in the car, went, came homeand I was depressed because I was
raised to be an entrepreneur,my dad was an entrepreneur, my sister
is an entrepreneur and I beinga stay at home mom, yeah, I wanted
that.
But once I was doing it Iwasn't sure if that's really all
that I was meant to be.

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Like it wasn't fulfilling aslike it should, you know.
So I said all right, I need todo something else and I don't want
to go to work, I don't put mykids in daycare.
So what can I do to make moneythat is going to let me have my cake
and eat it too, right?
I want to stay home with mykids, but I want to make money.
Well, I'm not doing one ofthose MLM schemes, you know, I'm
not going to sell the juicedrinks or the belly bands or whatever.

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That's stupid, I'm not doing that.
My dad used to do Amway a longtime ago back in the day when I was
very young.
So I told my husband, hey,we're going to buy rental properties.
We moved to Memphis.
This is the rental propertycapital of the world.
And you know, pretty muchalways on the top 10, top five list
sometimes one and two spot forbest rental markets.
Like we are not squanderingour opportunity and we are going

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to buy rental properties.
Like I was a real estateagent, I understand how to do it,
blah blah blah.
And he's Like Casey, we justbought our first house.
And I want to pause for just aquick second and say thank you so
much for listening to the show.
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Like we, you're not working.
We just put a tens ofthousands of dollars in our first
property and it's a fixer andyou're not going to go to work.
Where are we going to findmoney for this rental property?
He looks at me and I supportyou, but I'm laughing.
You're insane.

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And I don't like peopletelling me no.
So I said, all right, well I'mgoing to figure it out.
So I was like, all right, whatam I going to do?
Well, I'm not going to, Idon't want to be a realtor because
I really couldn't stand beinga realtor.
I hated it wasn't do that again.
And I didn't want to get ajob, so what can I do?
I thought, well, what girldoesn't like to make crafts?
Can I make some money sellingcrafts now?

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I'm not artistic or anythinglike that.
And my husband's like, wellwhat about you know, buying like
a Cricut or a Silhouettemachine, one of those die cutting
machines you've seen likepeople make Disney T shirts or they
make these tumblers and youknow, with the vinyl.
And I was like, okay, well Ican't design.
So I had to figure out how toget around that.
Justin, I, I waited probablythree months before I spent the $300

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on this machine.
Okay, I thought $300 was a lotof money to spend on a machine that
may or may not make me any money.
But by golly, if I want mydown payment for my rental property,
I'm gonna have to make somemoney somehow.
Well, when you're starting out$300 is a lot of money, right?
And it was.
And looking back, you know,and my husband even said at the time,
he's like, casey, if you don'tend up making any money with this

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Etsy, Etsy shop, you're gonnastart, you know, selling these handmade,
you know, this, at least youwill have learned a valuable skill
for our family and you canmake stuff for our family.
I'm like, you're so sweet.
That's why I married you.
You know, he's always sosupportive of everything.
So I did it, though, Dustin.
I worked nights when myhusband got home from work.
I worked in between my kidsnow, so slide out of bed while they

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were sleeping and comeupstairs to my office, which is.
This is the office right now.
Used to be my craft, mycrafting room.
Now it's my real estate office.
And I, I spent every night,every weekend and during nap times,
and it took me a year and ahalf, but I saved up $20,000.
Now, I know that that's not alot of money, and, but, you know,

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I was selling five dollaritems, ten dollars.
Stop selling yourself short.
My goodness.
Come on, Casey.
I'm bad with that.
That's a ton of money.
That's hard work.
And most people.
It was hard work.
Yeah.
Most people would not take theinitiative to pay the 300 bucks to,
to do it and then from therework that hard and sacrifice, even

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forego sleep to get to, Imean, $20,000.
So 2016, it's definitely notlike today 25.
$20,000 in 2025, is it?
I mean, it's a lot of money.
Don't get me wrong.
It's definitely a lot ofmoney, but.
It'S not like, not the same.
Yeah, not.
Yeah, not 2016.
But to work that hard to getthat much money, I mean, that is
awesome.
So continue on the story, butstop selling yourself short.

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Really awesome.
Okay, I know.
I'm so bad with that.
That's one of my downfalls.
I do sell myself short.
And then I think, well, how amI going to ever be greater if I'm
happy with myself?
You know, it's this internal struggle.
Like I always got to be notcompletely satisfied or I won't try
harder.
Mental things.
You do need to also, at thesame time, be.

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Be okay with yourself andwhere you are.
And then in general, you know,being, being a Christian, we look
at where, where Paul theApostle tells us that we need to
be content, content in everything.
Now we want to work harder forother things, which is absolutely.
We should but being contentwherever they are, it's not, it's
not.
It's actually a good thing tobe content because you're not wanting,

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you're not putting getting idols.
You're not, you're not in aprideful, arrogant way.
So continue on.
But I want to encourage youthat you're going on the right path.
Well, thank you.
Okay, so I saved up my 20grand and we use that with my husband's
income.
So we use his income toqualify for the loan.
We bought our first rental property.
It was $92,500.

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It was in East Memphis in Tennessee.
And we rented, we did a 20year loan.
I didn't really know better atthe time.
I wouldn't do that now.
I would keep the 30 year.
But we didn't do a 20 year loan.
I forget the interest rate.
It was 5 something, I think.
And at the time it rented for1050, 1095, something like that.
And we were bringing in like400 bucks in cash flow a month just

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from the one property afterthe mortgage.
After.
Are you managing theproperties yourself?
Yes, so I'm managing myself.
So that would be after thefixed expenses, principal, interest,
taxes, insurance.
There's no hoa, you know.
Yes.
That's not true.
Cash flow.
I know all of the investors out.
There, they just say thosethings because they don't.
They want to be argumentative.

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And I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Yeah.
So I was putting in my pocket400 bucks a month.
Yes.
From that we would have to doany repairs, etc, but there wasn't
any.
The we've owned this propertysince 2016.
The only thing we've ever doneto it really since then was a tree
fell on the house during a storm.
So we had a new roof, butinsurance helped pay for that.
And we did put a granitecountertop on and we painted the

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cabinets and added some hardware.
We've done hardly anything tothis house, Dustin, since 2016 and
now it rents for 15, 25amonth.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Do you still have the mortgage?
Have you paid that off?
We only owe like 40,000 lefton it, so we can definitely pay it
off.
Yeah, the mortgage is really low.

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The rates.
Yeah, five something.
So I'm not going to pay it off.
We have, we have houses withhigher rates that we pay off first.
Absolutely.
I believe in that mortgage foras long I have one.
I bought a property in Houston.
I think I still owe like 130,180 something, like whatever it is.
And it's like a 4% interest rate.
And it was a commercial loanor like a investment property loan.

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I'm like, I'm not paying thatoff any faster.
Like I used to, when I usedto, you know, long, when I didn't
know what I was doing, I putextra money towards it because we're
always told, hey, pay off your mortgages.
Dave Ramsey, pay off your mortgages.
Which, not bad.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not saying it's bad, butif you're an investor, you know how
to do it wisely.
You can use that money to makemore money.
So keep going.
So you bought that firstproperty and you worked your tail

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off to get $20,000, which is fantastic.
Bought that property in 2016,East Memphis.
And then what was the processto get the next property?
And were you excited to getthe next property?
Yes.
And it's the asterisk wordhere is sacrifice.
It's sacrifice.
You know, you don't get towhere you are by spending all your

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money by spending your dollars.
So my husband, for all therenovations that we did, we did them
ourselves.
I told you, my husband has an F150.
Well, he hasn't always had that.
He had a Nissan Altima.
Okay.
For years.
I like him already.
That's awesome.
So imagine filling your trunkand backseat full of tools every
day to go work on a propertyafter work.

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And that's what he did.
So he's really the true heroof the story.
He did sacrifice so much forour family by going there every day
after work till sometimes 12o' clock in the morning, sometimes
longer, and fixing propertiesby hand.
And I would go on the weekends.
I had small kids, but I wouldgo on the weekends.
I would load up my.
I had a envoy at the time.

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My.
When my mother in law gave mean old car, I'd put my lawnmower
in it, my leaf, my leafblower, all the tools, all the yard
bags, and I would go do allthe yard work and I would, I would
even put my lawnmower in theback of our car and drive it every
other week to mow the lawnwhen it was vacant.
So I did all of that and Ihelped demo and paint and scrape

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ceilings and do all the things.
So it was sacrifice.
You know, we.
And my kids would come with me.
We'd bring their lunch bagsfull, their little kids lunch bags
full of snacks and bring afrisbee and a football and.
You're not getting my phone,but you can go play outside and you
can help me paint and you canHelp me rake leaves and all of that.
So as a family, we've beendoing this for a long time, but it

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was sacrifice.
I would watch my friends gospend $10,000 and go to Disney World
for spring break and I'm like,no, we're not going to do that.
You're 100% right.
I had that same thought.
It's like every penny that didnot go to my real estate investing
is a minute, an hour, a day, aweek, year longer for me to become

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financially independent.
And now I literally can go atany time that I want because it's
delayed gratification, youknow, sacrificing now for the benefit
in the future.
And then I'll also quicklyinject, interject.
You know, a lot of peoplethink, well, we got to make sure
our kids are happy.
You know, they go to schooland they learn there, but when they're
with us, we're going to makesure that they're playing and all
that sort of stuff.

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Not everybody thinks that.
But how much better is it whenyou're homeschooling your kids and
they're learning firsthand howto actively be not just an investor,
but to make money, provide foryourself rather than working a job
that just over broke job and people.
I love how you said that.
And people relations.
I mean my daughter, my oldest,she's 13 and I recently took her

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with me to do tenant showings,you know, and this is how you scoop
them out and this is checktheir car and smell them.
Do they smell like cigarettesmoke when they tell you they don't
smoke?
And you know, this all thethings, you know.
And my son, he does, he doesthe books for us.
He inputs all of the, all ofthe receipts.
He's 11 and since he was nine.
I got to do that.
What am I doing?

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Yeah, well, I have to pay him, right?
So I can pay less taxes.
Well, you should pay him$12,500 so that you would.
They definitely get paid under that.
Yes, they do.
I make sure they don't makeanything more than that.
And they get their own W2.
Yeah, even my 7 year old has jobs.
Yes, my kids learn.
Well, a lot of the reason whywe do.
I have other property managerstake care of all the work.

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I don't want to do any work onthat stuff.
And so what my kids do thoughis they are learning how to invest
in real estate as well asanything for master passive income,
shipping out books, you know,because I just give away books and
people just pay for shippingand so they're the ones that print
them up.
My kids edit the podcast.
My kids do lots of stuff inthe for master passive income.
Because my real estateinvesting, I want to make it as automatic

(26:32):
as possible.
But one thing that we've done,I made it a goal and I was talking
to all my kids, they want tobe an investor.
They just know that you can bean investor.
And obviously they have me astheir dad.
That's going to help them inthe right direction.
Somebody might say, well hey,they have an unfair advantage.
Stop thinking about other people.
Like something in your there'sa negative about you.

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No, just focus on yourself.
You have an advantage overpeople, whatever it might be.
So my daughter, 16 years old,not 17 yet.
May she's gonna be turning 17,bought her first property.
She bought her first property already?
Yeah, yeah, praise the Lord.
So helped her.
She, she learned just like allmy students do, you know, take the
courses and learning everything.

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Now she obviously doesn't havethe benefit that I already had, the
contacts.
I already have my.
Because I'm gonna make sureshe does it right.
So I'm not gonna just say yougo do it off your.
No, I'm gonna make sure she'sset up right so that hopefully every
year she's going to continueto buy a house.
And the one stipulation or Isaid, hey, if you're going to do
this, you got to agree to this.
Every penny that you make fromin passive income from each property

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that we get, you cannot spendit for anything else.
You need to save it for thenext property.
And she agreed.
She said 100%, I'm totallyfine with that because Lord willing,
in 10 years she's at leastgoing to have 10 properties and $1
million in assets andhopefully at least four, $5,000 a
month in passive income.
And then all five of my kidsby the time they're 16, they need

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to be buying their firstproperty and continue buying after
that.
Oh my God, that's amazing.
Such inspiration.
So my daughter's 13 and wejust got into making sourdough bread.
Matter of fact, she's makingher first loaf downstairs right now
and she says, mom, I'm gonnasell this, I'm gonna sell.
She found these influencersthat sell sourdough bread and the

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city and oh my God, I couldcharge, you know, 12 to 18, 10, 18
do for this.
And now she, now she wants tomake butter.
And we've already talked to afarm that does grass, grass fed cows
and all that.
I'm like, well maybe we canget Butter from them.
And my husband's a smoker.
She wants to make smokedinfused butter and sell that with.
She's a hustler, just likeyour mom.
I know.
And she said.

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Do you think this is what shesaid today, Dustin, kid, you not
this morning.
Do you think that I get tosave up enough money with this bread
making thing that I can buy myfirst rental property?
Yes, absolutely.
Let's do the math.
Let's figure out how manyloaves of bread.
So we found this influencer online.
She says she sells 300 loavesof bread a week.
Now, obviously this is whatshe does now for a job, right?
So I told her, well, that'sanywhere from three to $4,500 a week.

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This lady's making a full time job.
This is, you know, her thing.
And she's out of Nashville, actually.
She's out of Nashville.
And so I said, but thistotally possible.
And you know, there's only onelady out here selling this.
And people love to buy from akid if it's good.
So you have to practice yourcraft, you know.
So I love how she's alreadythinking, how can I make money?
And the money she makes isn'tto spend, it's to buy real estate.

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So I love that.
Our families are so much alike.
My wife has been doinggrinding her own wheat berries and
making bread sourdough, like,you name it, for a good, I don't
know, four or five years.
And that is the healthiest food.
When you grind the wheatberries, you don't buy the flour
from the store.
That's just all starch.
You grind the wheat berries.

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That and then homeschooling.
So we have so much in common,family wise.
That's just super cool.
Well, I gotta ask you a question.
I don't remember seeing thison Instagram, so.
Oh, everybody, you need to gofollow her on Instagram.
Casey, what's your Instagram handle?
Brick by brick.
Wealth.
That's right.
I love that.
Yes.
I.
How did I forget?
Of course I knew that.
But yes, you can follow her on Instagram.

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But then at the same time, doyou guys have chickens?
Because my wife loves chicks.
She just bought more today.
My kids want chickens so bad.
We definitely have the roomfor it, but my husband's on the fence
with chickens.
So we have several neighborswith chickens.
And my husband's like, youcould just go to the neighbor's house
and play with the chickens.
So I grew up with chickens.
I did.
And now chickens, you know,eggs are six bucks a carton.

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And so I was like, maybe weget chickens.
We have a beautiful backyard.
It has a swimming pool, gazebo.
And my husband said, thenwe're going to have chickens.
So I'd have to convince him toget the chickens.
But my.
My wife had to convince me to.
But she just said, hey, Ireally want to do this.
And we get the best eggs ever,you know, like, we know exactly where

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they come from and everything.
I said.
And so I. I said, fine, babe,I love it.
Go ahead, let's do it.
I'm so happy.
Like, I'll definitelyencourage your husband to say that.
It's.
It's not like you're gonnasave any money on the eggs at all
from building the coop to,like, all that sort of stuff.
But all the food.
Yes, 100%.
But with the chickens, youknow exactly where the eggs are coming.

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We were getting, like, thatone time when we had the most.
Before we moved out here, wewere getting like 20 eggs a day,
and we would eat so many eggs,and then my kids would sell them,
which is great.
So, okay, let's.
Let's go on back on the realestate track.
When you decided to buy thatsecond property and then scale, I
think you had said you haveeight properties.
If I remember seeing.

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We have.
We have nine now.
Nine now.
Oh, yes, I did see yourecently bought a new one.
So talk about scaling now,because everybody, in fact, at Master
Passive Income, when I coacheverybody, there's three different.
It's a roadmap, there's avester roadmap, and there's three
different sections.
One is the beginner mom andpop, zero to five properties.
You buy that first property,you've proven yourself that it works,

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and you got to start buyingthe next one.
And then you move into thebusiness owner or scaler, where you're
scaling to build your business.
There's its own struggles ateach stage.
And then you scale, and theneventually you stabilize.
That's a big thing.
And you stabilize your property.
So you get financial independence.
Once you reach financialindependence, you have more money
than time because you haveother things coming in, like you're

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building businesses and stuff.
Then you're an investor.
So it seems like you're doing.
You're on that path.
You're now scaling it up.
Talk to us about the nextproperties and how you're continually
growing your business.
So buying one a year onaverage is what we've done.
One year we bought none.
One year, we bought two.
So on average, one a year.
That's it again, on just asingle income.

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Not even six figures takes alot of sacrifice, but we would save
all of our money.
We would do that.
So scaling wise, my husbanddoesn't want a partner, I don't really
want a partner.
We don't want to do the burnmethod, we don't want to cash out
refinance, we don't want toover leverage.
We just want to buy themourselves with a traditional 25%
down every single time.
Now we do a lot of work, sowe'll buy properties that need renovation,

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we'll fix them up, we'll getour added equity there, but we're
not cashing it out for more.
So.
So, you know, the way thatI've found that we've made more money
in the past few years is byupping the skill.
So now that my kids are olderand they're not babies anymore, I
have more free time during theday, a little less now that I'm homeschooling
now.
But heck, I got up at 4:44this morning so maybe I'm going to

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be an early bird.
I'm usually a night owl, but Ihave done so much today.
If my day ended today, I wouldfeel complete, like it's been an
amazing day.
I'm gonna go play tennis later.
My daughter's in a.
Tennis, tennis.
It's going to be 2:00pm we'regoing to go play tennis.
Middle of the weekday, she'sgoing to get to go play tennis, you
know.
So it's amazing homeschooling.
But scaling wise, the bestmove anybody can make, really the

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easiest thing to do is justmake more money.
Just make more money.
You know, I have a coachingprogram now and I help people with
their first rental propertyand I love it.
And I would not have been ableto take that risk and starting my
own business if I didn'talready have income coming in through
real estate because it wouldhave been too risky for it to invest
time and money.

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And really it's the emotion,it's, it's your inside that is at
risk.
Right?
Because you try business andyou fail.
And if you don't have thesupport and if you don't have any,
you feel like a failure.
You're not going to get backup and try again, try again.
And owning your own business,no matter what you're starting, whether
it's a nail business, youknow, doing girls nails or buying

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a McDonald's, right.
All of it requires risk,determination, hard work and all
those characteristics.
So I wouldn't have been ableto feel that confidence to take the
risk, to teach other peoplehow to do what I do if I didn't have
rental income and kind of juststart from the beginning.
So really to scale, I meanreally we're very basic and it's

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just make more money.
And I, well, anytime anystudent ever comes to me and says,
hey Dustin, I have thisproblem, xyz, whatever it might be.
And usually my answer is, theanswer is almost every single time
you start making more money,figure out a way to make more money
and that makes that problem go away.
Well, it's a problem with myproperty that's not making money.

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Well, let's figure out a wayto make more money to make this problem
go away.
We just have to figure it out.
And I love the idea thatnecessity is the mother of invention.
That's how you're going tofigure out a new way that wasn't
already there.
And in fact I think everyinvestor, real estate investor, is
not just an investor.

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You invest your money, but wereally are, is a business owner and
we own a business that owns inventory.
Our properties are inventoryand we just make sure that we have
a business that runs itself.
But the other thing, we'reproblem solvers.
Whatever problem comes in ourway, we need to figure out a way
around it or talk to otherpeople who've done it before.

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But like I said, like somebodymight say, well Casey, you had an
unfair advantage.
You had X, Y and Z.
You had these skills to createthis Etsy shop and maybe you got
some, some they're going tocome up with lots of things that
they put impose on themselves.
Like I don't have that.
No, no, no, you stop thinkingabout that.
Stop thinking about what youdon't have, think about what you
do have and then startsearching for other things that you

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can have in your life that youdon't think you already have.
But it's already there, youjust didn't find it.
And so now you've scaled.
Now I want to ask because yousaid you don't do the brrrr method.
You, you love having yourproperties like they are, which is
fantastic.
Everybody has different risktolerances, different strategies,
different goals.
I found too though that as yougrow, the real way to if you want

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to scale, not everybody wantsto do this, but if you want to scale
to 30, 40, 50 properties, theway is by using leverage and using
other people's money.
And I'll give you example.
I used a home equity line of credit.
Just this last month, a homeequity line of credit pulled out
$250,000 have bought threehouses in Akron this last year, or
sorry, last month.

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Like literally I'm closingtoday on another property.
So I'm buying three with$250,000 home equity line of credit.
Then those three are paid off,meaning there's no loan on those
properties.
But I have a homemade crediton another property that I have.
So what I'm doing now is I'mrefinancing, pulling all that money.
In fact, I'm doing a DSCR loan.
It's a 30 year fixed loan.

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It's fantastic.
And I'm pulling out $292,000.
So the amazing thing is I'mgoing to pay off my home equity line
of credit.
So that's going to be backdown to zero.
So now I have access to thatcapital to do it again.
Then I have $42,000 back in mypot or extra in my pocket that I'm
going to be able to buy moreproperties with.
And I make, I think it's$3,500 a month on all properties,

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all three properties.
And my mortgage is only $2,000or 1900, a little over 1900.
So when I'm looking at it, I'mprobably going to still passive income.
I want to say at least $1300and put $42000 in my pocket and have
access to capital.
But that's my risk tolerance.
I'm okay to do that.
My wife, she's grown.
She's not normally like this.

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Like I've, I helped her togrow into this.
But that's what I've seen as agreat way to scale because now I
have that $250,000 plusanother $42,000 that I can do it
all over again.
So I have three properties,cash that I can buy the next three
properties, do it all overagain, buy another, and hopefully
within a year to two yearsI'll have like nine to 12 properties
because I just do it over andover again.

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What are your thoughts aboutdoing something like that?
It's a great idea.
I have a lot of students thatdo that also.
Borrow from your 401k, takingsome money from your brokerage account
burn method still good ifyou're experienced.
I don't recommend that for newbies.
Obviously it's a great idea.
And I will say one thing thatkind of holds us back from doing
that because we have a couplemillion bucks in equity and things

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we could definitely, you know,have way, way, way more properties
than we do.
I want to move.
So because I want to move likewe had talked about before we started
recording.
It's going to require asizable down payment.
I, I don't want to sell mycurrent house.
I want to keep it a rentalproperty even though it has a pool.

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Because I'd probably make2,000amonth in cash flow on this
house.
So it's like, well, you know, and.
It'S kind of never sell.
Never sell.
I know, never sell any property.
It has a pool.
So.
Oh, that's a negative.
But.
And I have to keep, you know,I would want my primary residence,
my next one to have thegovernment 30 year loan.
Right.
I want the best interest rateif I'm buying a expensive property.

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So I have to be able toqualify, which means I have to show
Uncle Sam that I make moneyand I have to have healthy reserves
and I can't spend it all.
So as soon as I get my nextproperty, my quote dream home, all
bets are off and I'm buying dscr.
I won't need to qualify foranything and I'm going to be buying
way more property.

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You know that DSCR doesn'tshow on your personal credit.
I know, I know that.
Yeah.
So stick around me long enough for.
My down payment to buy them.
So I want to kind of, you.
Know, I get it.
This year is the year.
This year's the year.
We waited last year.
There's not a lot in our areathat comes on the market that we
like.
Yeah.
Especially you know, all lastyear it was not a very good market

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for the higher end properties.
Like nobody, nothing was selling.
So it's been kind of a whileof us waiting to get something.
But as soon as we do, I'm, I'mchanging my strategy.
Love it, Love it.
Yeah.
And I, I know, you know, allthe strategies that there are so
many different strategies orway to utilize creative financing.

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And so I love it.
And oh one quick thing too ontop of that.
So right now, and I usuallydon't talk about like what, like
date it is because I don'tknow when somebody's gonna listen
to this.
It might listen this a yearfrom now, but January 2025 right
now just found out from a goodfriend of mine, he was telling me
that he was looking at awebsite that has a bunch of data
on foreclosures and short sales.

(40:44):
He said just yesterday becausehe's been watching it for a couple
months now.
Just yesterday the systemupdated with 11,000 new short sales,
you know, pre foreclosures on it.
It was like 11,000.
That's not good.
I Mean, that's huge.
So I have no idea what's goingto happen in the economy and the
market.
But for people who are ready,who have access to capital, you got

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a lot of access to capitalinside your properties, just, you
know, tapping into it if youwant to do that.
Everybody else, let's say ifyou have a home, you can do a homemaker
line of credit or at least getsomething so you have access, business
line of credit.
You know, there's so manydifferent ways that you can be able
to acquire these properties.
Because if there ever is acrash again, because I remember 2008.
Well, I started investing backin 2006, 2008, the crash.

(41:28):
Oh, my goodness.
2009, 10, 11.
I didn't have enough money.
I wanted to.
I was.
I didn't know what I wasdoing, but I was buying as many properties
I could.
Just saving up money andbuying properties.
Now I'm like, oh, my goodness,I'm going to gobble up as many properties
I can.
Okay, so what, what would yousuggest for somebody who is, let's
say they're at a point nowwhere they said, you know what?

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I really not just want it.
They already started investing.
They bought their firstproperty, but they want to get to
eight properties.
Maybe they have one, andthey're like, man, I want to do exactly
what Casey's done.
Do you have any tips, anysuggestions that they should follow?
I would say know your risklevel and know your time commitment
that you have available.
You know, do you have timeavailable to fix up your own properties?

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Are you going to be having tobuy out of state?
You know, do you have access?
Where's your access to moneygoing to come from?
Because that's going to changethe type of strategy that you can
use, too.
If you're borrowing, if you'retaking on a private money partner,
or if you have to do a hardmoney loan and do a, you know, do
a flip, you can, you can flipto make money.
There's so many things.
And where are your skills?
You know, are you a people person?

(42:30):
You have good people person skills?
Do you have good renovation skills?
I know people that have beengeneral contractors that have flipped
their way to make extra money.
So you can do that in realestate, too.
But what I did was just foundsomething that I liked to do and
made some extra money doing it.
You can do it on the side.
Doesn't have to be somethingthat's going to make you a hundred
thousand dollars in the first year.

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You know, start off withsomething that you like that will
give you pleasure and younever know what it could turn out
to turn out to be.
What do you think about shortterm, midterm and those other types
rather than long term?
What do you think about thosetypes of properties personally?
They're risky.
They're risky.
You know, they're risky.

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I love it.
I agree with you.
I 100 agree.
Yeah.
You know, we've been looking,besides moving and buying a primary
a few years ago, we want tobuy a lake house.
And we weren't trying to entera short term rental.
We were in contract several times.
But out in the county wherethey had the lake houses, a lot of
people would build their ownhouses, and I mean literally build
their own.
So when you get the homeinspection, the foundations were

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ridiculous.
And this like you would have awhole upstairs full of bedrooms and
no bathroom.
Just weird.
So needless to say, that neverreally worked.
But we wanted to short termrental it too.
And when I have people ask meif they should do short term rentals,
my response is can you hold itfor six months without anybody living
there?
Can you pay all the bills?
Can you pay the mortgage, theutilities, the Internet, the yard

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guy?
Can you pay for all of thatwithout stressing out?
Because so many people that Iknow are trying to make big money
with short term rentals andthey have no money.
I'm like, well, if you have nomoney, buying a short term rental
is not for you because it'svery high risk.
You could have anotherpandemic and now everything's shut
down.
Are you going to lose yourasset because you couldn't afford
to hold it?

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So kind of my rule of thumb isfor every four to five long term
rental properties that youbuy, you're safe to buy a short term
rental because your long termrentals can cover the expenses or
at least mostly cover theexpenses of your short term rental.
I think it's great, great advice.
I personally, obviouslyeverybody's different, different
risk tolerances, strategy andall that stuff.

(44:37):
But how I am, 80% is long termand the other 20% could be short,
medium term.
But here's the caveat.
I don't buy a property that Icannot rent long term and still make
the mortgage payment and makethe expenses like I don't necessarily
have because I have plenty ofproperties now I don't have to make

(44:58):
and there's a reason why, butI don't have to make passive income
on every single propertythat's like a short term property
because I know I'm rentingthis Property, buying it for short
term.
So I'm going to make more money.
But worst case scenario,economy crashes.
I remember back in 2010, therewere hotels that were going bankrupt
because nobody's traveling.
So with that, I buy a house.
I know I can rent it long termand still pocket a little bit of

(45:20):
money.
But the reason why, because Ialways tell everybody this is more
advanced strategy if, like, ifyou're getting to the investor level.
I'm talking to the personlistening to this right now.
If you get to the investorlevel, you start looking at, oh my
goodness, I have plenty ofmoney coming in.
I need to figure out a way tokeep Uncle Sam from taking it.
And so what is what I do now?
I literally buy one Airbnbproperty every year, that is 400,000

(45:42):
more, but 400, 500,000 andturn in an Airbnb, make sure it's
cash flowing.
That's definitely.
I can still rent it long term,still make money.
Then I do a cost segregation study.
And with that, this last time,this one property that I have, I
have a hundred thousand dollartax write off in the first year because
I did a cost segregation studyon this property.
I'm like, that's a lot of money.

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So Uncle Sam doesn't get sopraise the Lord.
So every year I might have todo more.
But when you have more moneythan time and you need to protect
it, just use a tax laws thatare beneficial for you.
So, Kasey, what else?
Like what, what negativethings or a roadblock, A something
that's.
Oh man, that cost me 50 grandor, you know, 5 grand, whatever it

(46:24):
might be.
Is it.
Do you run anything like that?
I would say my biggest failureto date has been with tenant issues.
Right.
I landlord my own propertiesand one thing that no one taught
me how to do, I didn't knowcourses existed when I first started
investing in real estate wasto pick better tenants.
Right.
And to not always go with your gut.
Go with your gut, yes.

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But you need to do all theproper tenant screening.
And what I have learned isthat the neighborhood makes a difference.
You're not really buying ahouse you're buying.
You're investing in a type oftenants that are taking care of your
house, taking care of your assets.
So if you can buy in betterneighborhoods, we have higher quality
tenants.
They're less likely to breakthe rules and cost you tons of money

(47:07):
and damage and turnover andleaving in the middle of the night.
So I have a nightmare tenantstory and she cost me almost 20.
Around $20,000.
Yeah.
And repairs and all the things.
She totally screwed me over.
And I know I'll see her oneday at the grocery store and I'll
just want to wring her neck,you guys.
But I didn't go after her.
That's right.
Yeah.
We live in the same town.

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Sometimes I'm in a bad mood, Ithink about her.
You know, I, I invest in Ohio,Texas, Arizona, Tennessee.
I think it's Missouri, butyeah, I invest in all.
And so I do enjoy not beinganywhere near my properties because
I just let the propertymanagers take care of it.
But a big thing is I don't buya property unless the property manager
can be afforded by the, therents because I don't want to manage

(47:51):
properties.
I, I think it's fantastic thatyou're managing your properties because
that's money in your pocket now.
So does your husband still work?
Is he still doing that?
What?
He.
What is he doing?
Barely.
Yeah, they're gonna, he's,he's quitting soon.
Oh, good, good.
That's awesome.
Don't tell everybody.

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Yeah, I love it.
Okay.
And yeah, he works with hisbest friend.
He, he works with his best friend.
So it's.
His best friend's thepresident, so it's been difficult
to go because he loves his coworkers because they're his best
friends and, you know, and,and he likes helping them out.
He doesn't leave him high anddry and he knows he's the best at
what he does.

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So it's been a couple years ofme saying it's time to say goodbye.
So this is going to be the year.
I'm fairly confident that hefinally said he's been putting the
bug in his ear.
Like, hey, man, I'm, I'm out.
I'm done, I'm done, you know,sort of deal.
So he sticks around health insurance.
Okay, I guess we get, we getthat, but you know, I'll have to
figure that out.
I've already gotten quotes.
I already said, hey, look, Ialready got health insurance quotes

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from independent companies.
Like, I use.
Don't.
You don't need your job for that.
I use Metashare.
Have you heard of Medishare?
No, I haven't.
It's a Christian medicalsharing program.
And it's basically.
So they say it's notinsurance, but it's think of like
in Acts, chapter two, wherethis says that all the believers
gathered their things togetherand nobody had a lack.
You know, everybody broughtthings together.

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Similar to that idea whereeverybody pulls their money together
and we're obviously trusting Metashare.
To make sure things.
But I did lots of research.
I've been with him for like,like 15 years.
10.
10, 15 years.
I even got rid of mygovernment health insurance because
it was like a thousand dollarsa month.
Got rid of that and went tomedishare because I believe God's
going to take care of mostthings in general.

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Obviously there's catastrophic stuff.
But anyways, long story short,been with Medicare.
They've been great.
So I definitely take a look.
Just type in Medare.com orsomething like that.
You'll find it.
But a Christian medicalsharing program.
My sister lives in California.
She, she's an entrepreneur.
She has her own business.
And so they're part of aChristian insurance sharing company
too.
But when I looked into them,they just did California.

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So I'm like, shoot, I've gotto find one that does Tennessee or
does nationwide, because theone that she does didn't really work
for.
Got it.
Didn't work for me.
Got it.
Yeah.
Look at Medicare.
They should be.
Should be just fine.
But man, Casey, so this is fantastic.
And it's so fun how similarour families are, number one.
But also how we invest and howwe got started and everything.
Super pumped.
Now I want people.
Oh, I want you to start a podcast.

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And so I would love to be ableto share with everybody, talk to
us about the idea of the podcast.
And if anybody wants to sharewith me, if, like, hey, that's a
great idea.
I want to love to hear it.
What's your idea for a podcast?
So I want to do a podcast onreal estate, but I want it to be
entertaining and I want it tobe fun along with learning some tips
and tricks too.
So I want my podcast to be ontenant horror stories.

(50:42):
You know, everyone, you got tobe a good storyteller to get on and.
But that's the only requirement.
You have a good storytellerand have a good story.
But.
And it's got to be true.
And I want people to know, howdid you overcome your tenant horror
story?
What you do differently?
So to prevent that fromhappening again, I think it'd be,
I think to me that soundsreally exciting to hear all those
stories and then what peopledid to, you know, nip that in the

(51:06):
bud for next time.
That's my idea.
Love it.
And I'm encouraging you tosay, hey, podcasting is fun.
It's so fantastic.
You meet great people, whichis great.
You also get your message outto people.
And like you said a little bitago, you know, when you start coaching
people.
It takes more like of yourperson of who you are.
Like, I can make, always makemore money.
When I put on my conferences,when I coach people and stuff like

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that, I feel fulfilled becauseI'm helping other people.
But it's so hard.
Meaning it takes so much work.
It's so much easier justinvesting in real estate.
Like literally, it's so much easier.
I bought three properties inthe last month and I'm going to be
making plenty of money.
But doing all this otherstuff, it's like, you know, it's
fulfilling is what it reallycomes down to.
So, Casey, everybody, youshould follow brick by brick wealth

(51:53):
at on Instagram.
How else can they reach out to you?
You know, maybe, hopefullyeven work with you?
Yes, you can find me onYouTube too.
I put out a new video everyweek on real estate, Brick by brick
wealth.
And you can Visit my website,brickbybrickwealth.com I've got a
contact me form on there andthere's information if you're interested
in working with me.
There's all my stuff on mywebsite so you can check me out there.

(52:15):
Love it.
Hey, if you me being aemployee, just working a regular
dead end job and a homeschoolmom can invest in real estate, anybody
can.
And so that's one reason, bigreason why I want to bring you on
Kasey is because we're normaleveryday people, regular everyday
people.
And if we can do it, everybody can.

(52:35):
So, Casey, thank you so much.
Great meeting you and greathaving you on the show.
Thank you so much.
And that is it for today.
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See ya.