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February 7, 2025 26 mins

Is retirement really the utopian dream we imagine? 

In this fascinating conversation with Christine Benz, author of "How to Retire," we dive deep into the surprising truths about life after work. Christine shares compelling insights from her interviews with 20 retirement experts, revealing why so many Americans arrive at retirement completely burned out and unable to envision life beyond their bucket list.

Discover why married men live longer but the same isn't necessarily true for married women, and what this means for your retirement planning. Learn about the "worry-free number" - a simple yet powerful psychological hack for reducing money stress. Plus, hear an illuminating discussion about why some of the most disciplined savers struggle to actually enjoy their wealth in retirement, and how to break free from this pattern.

Whether you're decades away from retirement or actively planning your exit from the workforce, this conversation challenges conventional wisdom and offers fresh perspectives on creating a fulfilling post-career life. Christine and Leisa explore both the financial and human elements of retirement, sharing personal stories and expert insights that will transform how you think about your future.

To pick up a copy of Christine's book, How to Retire, click here.

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