325. Mayhem Miller is That B!tch, Onya Wins Drag Race, Gaga before Mayhem!

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(00:00):
Every time you say Dawon I perk up because that's my name, Dawon.
Get out there.
Is it spelled the same?
Is it D-A-W-O-N?
No, I feel like D-E-Q-U-A-N.
It's a long story.

(00:23):
Hey ya'll, it's me, Mayhem Miller what's brewing bishhh
She's that bitch, Mayhem Miller.
Onya wins Drag Race.
and Curiositea Gaga before mayhem.
So get your cups ready for Minoritea Report

(00:46):
Oh.
damn, we're pretty.
Hey, welcome to Minoritea Report, it's Auntea Kerel uh

(01:23):
because if you're already watching, see who on the screen.
Come on, but we always do the intro here, so we're gonna do it right.
We're gonna do it right.
We got the season 10.
We got the All-Stars Five.
We got the UK versus the world.
We got the drama, the I'm that bitch, the mayhem herself and we ain't talkin' Gaga.

(01:47):
Ha ha ha!
We have the little queen herself, miss.
Mayhem, Miller is in the place to be baby.
Hey, how you doing love?
ah
and blessed, black, beautiful, booked, busy.

(02:08):
the
Period.
Period.
I know that.
Especially in this economy.
That's all one can be because ain't nothing but death and despair out there.
So I'd rather be out these.
You know what?
Dude, you said a whole word.
And it's so funny because the whole vibe across the black community is we don't give adamn about what's going on out there.

(02:33):
We didn't did our part.
didn't put our work in y'all the ones that fucked up.
So y'all gonna have to deal with that shit.
We over here doing our line dances.
So, careful.
uh
Where your fans at?
Where your fans at?
saying, it's like, baby, can't be bothered today.
We're going to do this shit.

(02:53):
And I just learned that dance, too, like, two weeks ago.
I finally learned it.
I showed it.
Because you know, I ain't many black people out here in Seattle.
So I finally like made it to, you know, one of the cousins, you know, kind of blackbirthday events and showing off.
was like, give me that fan.
I finally got it.
They done took the fans off the gay bars and gave it to the black people.

(03:17):
The Renaissance tour did it to you.
But this is this is this isn't anything that's new for us.
I mean, you think about, know, like, how house culture that came out of, you know,Chicago, you know, this, yeah, all this stuff is rooted in our culture anyway.
So as being gays, we kind of like, you know,

(03:38):
It got co-opted.
We get it from the black woman.
We get it from my mama and my grandmama, so let's be all the way real.
That's exactly how we got all these same ass names too on this podcast.
uh
Speaking of names.
We've been having the we've been having the uh you know, the Dr.

(04:01):
Seuss over here of the Jerrell and Kerels uh Mayhem, can you just drop a little dime aboutwhat your government name actually is?
It's Dawon.
Hey, look at this.
This is a first for Auntea Char okay?
Because the way it's always Kerel and Jerrell and we always get that look like, say what?

(04:26):
It's like, y'all making that up?
We just black as hell.
You
you know what, that's honestly what the podcast is really all about is just, you know,showcasing our authenticity.
It's, know, we love kitchen table table conversation, just sitting in our own truth andjust keep him with one another.

(04:48):
So and that's the vibe that we put out there.
So I'm glad
spell yours with a Q though.
You'll cue you a N.
Yeah
The woo sound.
It's a Mexican cue.
I told my parents, was like, so you threw that Q in there, didn't know that you was gonnaend up making me queer with it.

(05:08):
So.
No, was supposed to be D-E-J-U-A-N, Dawon.
But, like, when they're doing their paperwork, my mom was still, you know, she just gavebirth, she was out of it a little bit, and the Q, the J looked like a Q.

(05:29):
And so that's how it's been on my birth certificate ever since.
You're so dead.
I was.
was the loop.
She was like, just get me out of here.
Give me my baby.
Damn it.
It's Providence.
It was never that way.
got a question for y'all and I haven't really put too much thought into this, but it cameto my mind just now.

(05:50):
What is the other common black names that our parents thought were unique, but now as weget older, we're like, It's the same thing.
You have a bunch of us niggas with the same name, just spelled differently.
I mean, like what are some other names that are like out there, they were like, everyonegot it kind of the same.

(06:11):
Anything
Yeah, there are a lot of the songs.
with Aquarius, Jaquarius, Taquarius.
I'm so done with you.
I'm so done with you.
They mama was an Aquarius and she just put the extra letter in.

(06:34):
Aquarius.
Hahaha uh
I am so done.
Anyway.
Well, hold on before we scroll on off off the names.
It's not that often that the ones get a little bit of the side.
I was very curious.
um You know, did you ever have any kind of like feelings about your, know, your givenname, given the fact that it's so different, and there weren't any other Dawons?

(07:02):
Well, I was there, but you know,
I always felt unique.
I always did because I had a name that was not common.
I met only one other Dawon than myself and you like I had a Dawon when I met in the gaybar once when I was like 18 and he was like, Oh, my name is Dawon.
I'm like, wait, what?

(07:24):
Like, there's no way he's like, yeah.
But he's called the D-A-J-U-A-N.
And then I think I think Monet exchange has a friend that's also named the one that'ssomewhere here and I've listened to their podcast and I think they're somewhere here and
okay, they're either in New York or they're in LA.
I can't remember exactly where they are really there.
So there's a there's a couple of us out the out there all with different spellings.

(07:48):
I'm gonna have to post about this.
I'm gonna need to find out where are all the duans at.
But I think I'm the only
the one at it.
We're the one at it.
I think I'm the OG because I'm vintage.
I'm 1976.
So I think I might predate a lot of the other Dawons that might be out there.
I'd curious oh to see if there are any other Dawons that are before 1976.

(08:15):
Look.
And Mayhem said, you could have that.
You
even further is that my my first name and my second name rhyme.
So I'm Dawon Lashon Hawkins.
Mine?
Mine rhymes too.

(08:36):
Daquan Arman.
I'm so done with you all black people.
I'm so done.
Baby!
I'm coming out to you.
I'm buying you I'm getting drinks for the night like we gotta have a Dawon Lashon DequanArmand night because this this is the universe converging.

(09:00):
you are ready, I am ready.
I am so done.
am all the way.
I never knew your middle name.
That's interesting.
All these years never.
We never talk about middle names on You don't cut up like a LeSean though, so.
Right, Right.
But the one

(09:23):
funny thing is is that my my middle name came from my mom my mom actually wanted to callmy first name to be to one and then my first name came from my aunt my aunt named me my
aunt the burn hit me so I don't know where she came where she came up with that name butyou know.
It's hey Dawon hey Dawon I know you call me both of you.

(09:51):
But like, guess like to kind of go from like the government name everything.
So you're a Cali boy from the ground up.
Like you grew out in the LA area.
How did that growing up
impact your like aesthetic as a drag queen now today and like how has it evolvedpotentially as you've gone throughout your life in the LA region?

(10:14):
See, the thing is, LA has...
Its drag scene is very different than wherever else you go in the world.
remember when I first started doing drag, I thought drag looked a certain way, which wasin my circles, was you need to look like a woman.

(10:37):
No clown, nothing loud, you need to pass as a woman.
So that was my aesthetic.
And then once I started seeing drag from everywhere else in the country and the world, waslike, it's not like that for everyone.
So I, I always say that the best, the best drag is LA drag, but people get mad when I saythat.

(11:00):
I mean, look, after the creativity wars, I had a time at the Abbey with y'all.
And it's oddly enough, I have seen Epiphany perform in Palm Springs for a couple of flipphone events as well too.
So it was good to see her again.
I was like, my gosh, like, hey girl, how you doing?

(11:22):
I love Epiphany, love her.
I'm with her tonight actually.
Are you really again?
Okay.
She is amazing.
I live at night at the queer days.
Okay.
Oh, go ahead.
I have her tonight and then I have Mariah Balenciaga tonight.
I love her.
She's gorgeous.

(11:44):
The shade queen.
uh
We went out last night.
woke up now.
Somebody didn't say her name.
She didn't perp right up out of it.
oh
We went out last night and had a time and she was like, I'm just gonna stay at your house.
I was like, all right.
I was like, go ahead, baby.

(12:06):
The guest room is open.
I'm bummed I missed that night at the Queerty Awards
I didn't stay too late, I was done.
Like I was out of there by like midnight.
I was like, you know what, this whole time I'm going to bed.
And Jerrell said, I'm having me a time, I'm staying.
You had flown from where we were in Brazil.
we had.

(12:26):
So Kerel and I and bunch of other friends went to Rio de Janeiro for carnival and I endedup staying an extra, I don't know, like 10 days or something like that.
He out there all day all month.
Don't lie, he was out there forever.
You just got back, girl.
Well, no, I just got back from PV actually.

(12:47):
Oh, you don't win for one heat in this race to the next.
And didn't
Right.
was a very cultural experience.
That's we call it.
A cultural experience.
That's a t-shirt right there.
But Kerel had to go home.
Had to go home.

(13:10):
Well, that's right.
Because you you
I like flew from Sao Paulo to Miami to LA.
Slept for like three hours.
I had to do the work, go to the Queertys slept, and then flew the next day back to Philly.
It was insanity.
So I was sad just like not to stay that night.

(13:30):
We didn't get the date for the query awards until probably a couple of weeks before weleft for Brazil.
So we had already booked everything and and and I'm like, well, I uh
I'm gonna say real quick why I was sad though like why I didn't stay because You came outto that Angie Stone number.

(13:51):
Yes Thank you.
was like, thank you for doing that because I was like not everybody doing Angie Stonenumbers and that's it I was like, yeah, and it was also fresh off the press from when she
had passed too.
Yeah So like you did it like within like what 48 hours or something like that and it wasjust like instant like this was
That number, because we know there weren't many of us there to be opening to begin with,but I knew it was a, this is for us.

(14:18):
We knew the importance of this number and it was a rap.
It was a rap at that point.
yeah.
That song has been in my repertoire of performing since it came out.
So like, it had to be done.
You have to give honor and you have to pay homage to you know, whenever we lose some ofour best of our best.

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So I was like, ha ha, let me get on the stage tonight and do something for these kids.
And I was like, it's being received so well.
So was like, thank you.
Absolutely.
I was like, that's what I came here to see, dammit.
It's time for me to go.
Do you ever feel a certain kind of way when you pick a song to perform that you know iswithin our wheelhouse but is not within, it's not fully appreciated or even known by the

(15:13):
vast majority of the people that come to see you, meaning white people.
So I pride myself on doing music that is not common.
You can go to a drag show and you're gonna hear the same shit from every other queen overand over and over.

(15:34):
And the same dance I pull out my own personal, the same dance moves too.
I only do music that I love and I never take requests.
I don't do what's current at the time.
I'm a throwback queen, so I like to do music that brings me joy, because I feel if itmakes me feel a certain way, then it's easier for me to get on stage and let that take

(16:03):
over.
And I'm able to captivate people better when it's coming from me as well.
So it's never like, are you going to do that new Taylor Swift song?
No.
Not ever.
The new TikTok song that everyone liked, never.
That's not gonna happen when it comes to me.
So I like seeing people's eyes light up or you can see people click when they hearsomething and they're like, wait, what's that?

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And I'm like, I'm doing my job because now I'm in education mode.
So now I'm showing you something that you don't know.
There's a lot of things.
I was gonna say you can tell when someone is doing a number or song just because that'swhat everyone else is into versus someone who's doing something that means something to

(16:53):
them.
Because that lip sync looks way different.
Like how you give, how you serve is way different when you be like.
This is, I'm singing this song because I just left that nigga like two days ago and fuckedthat nigga.
So I'm going with this song and you just like real time, like just emoting all thatrealness.
kudos.
Cause I love when I hear a song that someone else ain't really normally doing.

(17:15):
I'm like, that was on my iPod shuffle.
oh But you know, I love it.
I absolutely love it.
So yeah.
Is there a song that's like within your that's a top five top 10 that you also get as muchenjoyment out of another another queen doing as you do performing it?

(17:40):
Ho ho!
Goodness is there something I like seeing other people do that I do um
No.
Did you?
Period.
Poo.
That's a tiller.
It's a slam dunk, right?

(18:01):
I used to get so pissed if I would see someone do music that I do and I'd be like, now youknow that's my song, what are you doing?
And people would record people, me videos, they'd be like, bitch, she doing your song.
And I'm like.
No.
I was like, and look, she's not getting tipped either, so.

(18:21):
She said if you're gonna do it, do it.
Leave it to the professional.
Speaking of professional, your beat, your face, first of all, you're gorgeous just as youare.
But like, you know, like no lie, like it, it helps to have a great canvas and you have agreat canvas.

(18:48):
But bitch, when you paint your face.
Yes.
Where did you learn how to paint like that?
Yes.
I learned.
car blended
I learned in my car.
With a little bitty mirror?

(19:10):
Yup.
And the light, the overhead lighting.
Right, right.
I've had to paint in the worst places.
Because growing up, I was not able to do it at home.
So I would have to do it in my car or I would have to do it at gas stations in thebathroom or so like, I never had the best lighting.

(19:34):
It was always in the dark somewhere in an empty parking lot.
Like, so I had to learn in the toughest places.
So I learned to adjust my paint so that you can see it at night.
without it being on stage.
like, that's kind of like where my technique started was like, okay, if you're in the darkcorner somewhere in the alley, will you be able to see me?

(19:56):
So I always went with that, that that perspective when it came to painting.
You wanted it?
sounds like you weren't able to at home then?
Oh no.
So like what did your parents think when they found out you was painting?
Um, the drag was never allowed in the house.
uh Never allowed the house.

(20:19):
got through the when I first started.
I remember I had a few little things and it was hidden in my my bedroom.
And one day I came home and it was all gone.
And I was like,
Can't have nothing in a black household.
busted all my nice things.
So like, yeah, I had to dig some stuff out of the trash and then kept it in my trunk of mycar.

(20:42):
for the first few years of me doing drag, everything was in my trunk.
Wow.
What inspired you to do drag?
Uh, a boy.
Yeah, they'll always do it.
Wait a minute now.
Elaborate on that.
Like, he attracted to drag queens?

(21:05):
okay, so it was complicated.
You're making like a complicated story.
Okay, to order, Duann.
oh So this guy, he identified as straight and I fell head over heels over him, beautiful.
And we ended up hooking up and it became a regular thing.

(21:34):
but I was like, okay, well, if we're having sex and stuff like.
you just need to be my boyfriend.
And he was like, I'm not gay, I'm not gay.
And I'm like, but you are, but okay, whatever.
So in my mind, I was like, okay, he obviously likes me somewhat enough to fuck.

(21:55):
So I'm like, what if I do drag and then I'm a girl, he will have the best of both worlds.
And then that's how we're gonna make this happen.
That is interesting, the justification.
Wow.
Wow.
So I did it and he came to the club that night.

(22:15):
eh
This was daytime drag?
Oh, no, no, no, no.
You know, I was always a woman at the night.
I don't even like doing daytime drag now.
I hate doing brunches.
I'm like, no, the sunlight is not my friend.
So I did the show, my first show, and he was there that night.

(22:36):
And he ended up telling my best friend, he was like, why did you let him do that?
He looks ugly.
And I was like, I would have a state of my face crack.
Yeah.
And from that moment on, was like, I'm gonna prove this motherfucker wrong.
I'm like, you will eat those words one day, you're gonna know that I'm the fuckingbeautiful queen and now where am I at?

(23:01):
Do you know where this human being is at today?
Jail.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Well, shit.
uh
I had a type without the jumper.
I'm beating off to the double axel.
got another Dawon up in there.
Walking around with the with a t shirt t shirt on his head.

(23:26):
It's the fair mail.
of time.
uh
I was, want to go back to the conversation about painting because one of the things that Iappreciate about, I've been a long time fan stand since, you know, early drag days.
And, um, one of the I really appreciate about your drag aesthetic and especially the waythat you paint is that you see, you tend to see a lot of like the, the latest trends and

(23:55):
makeup or trends for drag queens kind of like multiplying across all of the draglandscapes.
There isn't a sense of
originality because once something works for somebody you see everybody else doing it.
Yeah.
And one of the things that I've noticed about your the way that you paint, I will see thatyou will incorporate some things, but you have a certain aesthetic that is really about

(24:21):
drag glamour.
And I'm just curious, where does that come from?
And how do you kind of fight the the desire or the the tendency to fall into the fad?
painting that some of your contemporaries do.
I learned early in my career that there's always going to be other girls.

(24:45):
There's always going to be someone pretty.
There's always going to be someone that does what I do.
So I have to be the best at what I do as me, because that will make me stand out and beunique from the, from the pack.
So I always made sure that the way that I paint it was signature for me.
And I never stepped out of that box of following trend.
um When I became a professional makeup artist,

(25:08):
I learned about trends because people would be like, oh, I want to try that.
Can you do this for me?
And I'm like, of course I could do it for you.
I can wham it on you, but I will never wham it on me because I'm like, I tell people allthe time, I'm like, what works for you will not work for everybody.
So I never, I never recommend brands or types of makeup or different shades or peoplelike, what palette are you using?

(25:32):
I'm like the one I bought.
Yeah.
oh
like, well, oh, share it, share it.
I'm like, one, they're not paying me to promote it.
So why would I shout it out?
I'm like, no, that's not gonna happen.
But also, some stuff just does not work for everyone.
And especially being a queen of color, I had to learn the hard way how to use what was outat that time to work for myself.

(26:00):
And now, thank God, things are way better for makeup for darker skin.
But yeah, I had to learn a different way of doing makeup than most people.
So I never followed that path.
Because what people don't realize you you've been in the game for a minute and you came uplike your squad of like Drag queens that you came up with it's insane to even say out loud

(26:23):
like the Morgan Michaels and the Ravens and the Deltas and the detoxes like these likey'all squad was like So it's just interesting even someone like a raven who personally I
think it like has changed
The Makeup Game of Drag.
Forever.
down.

(26:45):
Everyone, while I say it all the time, there are raven doppelgangers running around thedrag.
The drag.
Everyone.
And that's why Raven can do all that coin panda face like she's just good at it, you

(27:07):
Me and Raven have known each other since the beginning.
We started the same day, same show, same club.
And we've been friends ever since.
And we call each other twin.
That's my sister, no matter what.
like, used to get ready together.
I used to go to her apartment and we would just sit there and paint with each other.
And I learned a lot watching her do makeup.

(27:31):
But I saw the impact of her makeup.
and what it did for the drag world because once she got on Drag Race, that mug was postedon every page after that.
Yeah, yeah.
It's hilarious to watch.
It really is.
And I always tell her that and she's always like, shut up.

(27:52):
And I'm like, you know that, you know you changed the game.
So it is what it is.
But it still kind of goes back to like what the one was saying though, like knowing evenwhen your friends, sisters with someone that's changed the face of makeup, knowing still,
no, I'm gonna stick in mine because this works for me.
That ain't gonna maybe work on my face and my features and things like that.

(28:14):
So let me stand fast in what I know works for me and be like you said, the best at it.
So that's the lesson I have for folks, but like you might be next to quote, quote, the oneof the best ever at makeup.
But that doesn't mean you need to copy that because it still might not be what's going tobe best for you.
I like to, when I'm teaching makeup to people, I'm always like, you have to let your faceteach you where it wants to go when it comes to makeup.

(28:40):
You can't just take a picture of someone else's face and say, I want that look.
You have, everyone has unique features that if you play with makeup and shading a certainway, it will really, really, really accentuate someone.
And you can create something beautiful by keeping your own stamp with it, by using whatyou have been given.
So.

(29:00):
I always just let my face do what it does.
And I'm like, okay, that's what she gave me.
And that's what you gonna get.
Well, what you've done with the canvas is spectacular.
Like, try to find a picture where Miss Mayhem Miller, Miss Dishon is not looking flawless.

(29:22):
It's impossible.
Impossible.
And that's just a testament to your talent, really.
Thank you.
But if there are pictures of me that don't look good, send them to me because I love them.
I love a bad picture of myself.
I love it.
I was just little hungover that day.
That's it.
Bye!
They might be from RuPaul's Drag Race when you were performing one of them challenges, notfrom when you painted yourself.

(29:46):
But you paint for yourself, baby.
You look amazing.
Thank you.
curious since you've been in the game for a minute and you've had like a career beforeDrag Race during like early Drag Race and now like the phenomenon that is Drag Race and
the globalization of it.
What has been like maybe the biggest change for maybe like staying just maybe in the LAregion and then see the US and now the globe has it kind of like what's the word I'm

(30:14):
looking for?
homogenized.
There we go.
Has it made it just like singular or have you been like, man, they out here in the UKkilling it or damn they down here in Brazil saying some shit I never seen before.
Nope.
No, it's, it's I am.

(30:36):
No, that sounds so terrible.
It sounds so terrible.
But everywhere I go, it, the funny thing is, okay, so me and Delta have this thing wherewhenever we leave town, and we're at a show working or we're sitting at a show supporting
or whatnot, we always text each other.

(30:56):
We'll take a picture or video of the person.
And we are like, there's Morgan.
Look at your sis.
Because everywhere you go, there's always someone that reminds you of where you're from,where you're at now.
So drag is always the same everywhere.

(31:19):
It's always the same.
You're gonna have some girl that's real, real pageant-y.
You're gonna have one girl that's gonna be, the dancer and I'm gonna do all the wind-upsand I'm gonna jump off this and...
You know, you're gonna have the girl who thinks she's the fashionista.
Drag is always the same no matter where you're at, no matter where.

(31:42):
Although I will say the execution ain't always the same though.
So let's talk about this album you just dropped.
April 1st, baby.
I'm that bitch.
Hahaha
Where did the kernel of inspiration for this song come from?

(32:10):
Um, so funny thing is my, producer of that song, I worked with a guy named Ellis and hewas at the Abbey one night on a Tuesday, just hanging out.
He had did me, he's done music for RuPaul and all, lot of other girls and stuff.
And I was just doing my thing on a Tuesday and I, I start singing along to one of thesongs cause it's a throwback night.

(32:33):
So I'm hearing my jams and I'm singing.
He looked at me and was like,
Was that you that just sang that?
And I'm like, yeah.
And he's like, wait a minute.
Why does no one know that you can sing?
And I'm like, cause I don't sing for my act.
I don't do that.
And he was like, no, we're going to change that.

(32:54):
And I was like, uh, I was like, whatever, you know, you meet people and everyone saysthings and, and he followed through.
He messaged me and was like, Hey, so.
I'm gonna write you a song and you're gonna you're gonna do it and I want you to get inthe studio and we're gonna start utilizing your your talent and I was like sure like yeah
you write the song and you let me know how it goes.

(33:18):
Message me the next day and was like alright so I scheduled you some time in the studiocome on out and here you go and I was like oh fuck I gotta do this
You said, uh
So yeah, that's how it came about.

(33:39):
um And, you know, he had we had talked, we had, you know, a little session where he waslike, Okay, well, what's on your mind?
What type of vibe that you you would want to put out there?
And I'm like, I have to be house music.
I love house music.
That's just been my thing all my life.
And I was like, we always have to do something that's uh

(34:00):
uplifting, know, have a message in it somewhere.
Cause my favorite type of house music is either gospel house or strong vocals.
want good nineties house music.
I want a strong vocal.
And so he was like, okay, cool.
Um, he was like, well, I think a lot of people need to know what, what we all know aboutyou that a lot of people don't get to see is that you're that bitch.

(34:25):
You're the girl of the scene that we all know.
that everyone has nothing but respect for.
You run everything all throughout Southern California.
And he was like, we're gonna put a stamp on that.
And I was like, all right, let's do it.
So that's how it came.
How did it feel getting into the studio and feeling the words actually leave your vocalcords and like get on the track?

(34:50):
Like what was that feeling like?
That was it.
I, it had been, it was fun because I was like, okay, I sang all my life, all throughoutschool.
I wanted to be an opera singer.
All those things that I wanted to do when I was younger, I was now being able to do itonce again now in the capacity I'm at now as a drag queen.

(35:15):
So it was like, okay, I'm revisiting, you know, this old dream of mine.
And I'm like, okay, I'm feeling, I was,
apprehensive at first because I'm like, Oh my god, I know how vicious the drag world isand how the fans are.
And I was like, Do I really want to put out music again?
I don't know.

(35:36):
And then I was like, as I was singing it in the studio, I was just like, this is this isgood.
I feel comfortable with it.
And I think people are going to like this a lot.
So I felt I felt good with it.
because maybe some of the girls shouldn't do it.
oh
what struck me about this song in comparison to a lot of other songs that have been um

(36:00):
their names!
Okay.
Too many.
We don't have enough time on the podcast.
It's like the rolling credits.
Right.
is that this doesn't sound like a drag queen song.
doesn't sound like, you know, a co-opted Ru produced, you know, like, because, know, someof them songs be a little tinny, they'd be a little, you know, thin and the content and

(36:28):
the musicality and the production, but this legitimately is a bop and it's something thatyou could, it has teeth to it.
Thank you.
rare because a lot of the stuff that comes out from a lot of these queens, mostlynon-melanated queens, I have to say, ain't this.

(36:50):
And there's a difference between singing and being an A.
But there's a difference between being like between singing and being an artist.
Right.
Right.
And when you are an artist, you are coming from a place of talent.
You come in from a you're using an actual gift and you're doing it in a way that it'ssupposed to be done.

(37:13):
And it clearly shows like Dwayne was saying, like this doesn't feel like part of thatecosystem of
a queen is putting a song out there just to put a song out there.
It's like, no, this is, I'm ready for the catalog, baby.
I'm ready.
I'm ready for like all of it.
I'm ready to go down to Mabin Hall and like, where's more?
know, like this is where like you-

(37:34):
think more is coming.
And as it should.
think of you now.
Honestly, as it should.
Thank you.
Are you doing the singing?
Right, now you ain't Millie Vanilli.
oh

(37:56):
I wish it was that easy.
I wish I was just lip-syncing to somebody else.
I'm curious too, like obviously in this landscape, especially the last call it decade,we've seen just like the political side of things and the the wrath of extremists against
our community A and then just even the drag art community B.

(38:20):
How do you maintain your joy and your peace and your mental health and all this stuff andthen continue to fight?
that you need to be in the stay visible and things like that when days were like, man,these bitches out here crazy.
Um, what helps me during these weird times is knowing that I have a purpose and my purposeis to help other people through hard times.

(38:48):
And as a bar queen, you know, that's been my, that's been my objective all these years for25 years is going out at night and helping other people forget about their worries for
just a little bit to just let go, have fun.
have a good laugh, listen to some good music, get out there and dance, have a drink, justto be that little break from the nightmare.

(39:12):
So I just know that my little piece of the puzzle helps in some way.
So I just continue doing that and it brings me joy, it brings me happiness knowing thatI'm able to do that and provide that for other people.
The shows that I produce, I'm able to employ

(39:33):
so many other queens, know.
So like, I know that I'm helping in many ways.
I'm not only just, you know, fulfilling something that's gonna help someone, you know, paytheir bills and get through the hard times, but I'm also giving other people hope and joy
at the same time.

(39:54):
that I'm doing my little piece that I need to do that help the world.
depressing too.
Like not many people get to live a life of walking in their purpose and doing somethingthat also pours into them.
know?
Cause it sounds like you do this from a place of service and when you give to others andyou see that temporary joy, it comes back to you as well.

(40:18):
So like, it's almost like you burning the candle, but the candle ain't burning everbecause it's anointed.
Like can't nobody stop that.
In the island, Zant once said, what's in my cup is for me.
What's built out of my cup is for y'all.
And I'm curious, you know, beyond these particular gifted acts of service, how do you fillyour cupping?

(40:44):
Make sure that your cup is filled, is full.
It's been a process of uh learning balance.
Because I'm always a yes person.
I don't turn down a gig.
I will always get my bag and I'm always going to make sure that I'm doing all the things Iwant to do.

(41:05):
So in doing that, I for years was neglecting Dawon.
because I wanted mayhem to be successful.
uh So I finally started, you know, really doing self care, not just saying it for lipservice.

(41:26):
was like, okay, yeah, no, you're gonna have to make sure that you have good balance inlife.
it's just as much as you work, you need to have time away from work.
And just not always, you know, having work.
as a center of my life because that's not who I am and it's not who defines who I am.
It's just a piece of who I am.

(41:47):
So oh I'm just very good about being like, all right, there's the one time and there'smayhem time.
And now I'm being more about, I need to feed more to one, you know, I've done great withmy career and it's always going to be solid.
So I'm not worried about that anymore.
I'm not worried about the hustle.
Now I'm enjoying the blessing.
So I just, I just.

(42:08):
day like what like okay this is the wall likes this not mayhem
I love when I get to sleep.
So I will nap, a good nap.
Oh my God, that will just do everything for me.
But on the days off that I have, I will get up, I'll get dressed, I will get in the carand I just go.

(42:37):
I just decide, is it left or right on the freeway?
Which way we going?
today is a right.
So we get on the freeway and we just go somewhere and I'm gonna take myself to lunch.
I'm going to get a pedicure.
That's my rub on the feet.
If I can get a massage in, I will do that as well.

(43:00):
I wanna make sure that I take care of myself.
So I will go and I'll buy myself something nice.
It could be something small.
It could be something big.
But I always, whenever I have a me day, I'm like, no.
You want some cologne?
Get you some cologne.
know, you want to get your car washed.
Let that baby shine.
You know, do something for me that brings me happiness.

(43:22):
And then I come home and then I watch my stories because I'm an old lady.
Okay, first I got two questions.
One, what's your daytime story that you like to watch the most?
Oh my god, so I don't watch any soaps, but my stories that I are 90 Day Fiancé.

(43:43):
God, you would.
You are Dawon.
You are Dawon.
Bitch.
Also, what's your zodiac sign?
Are you a Leo as well?
Because I got questions.
OK, look, I was like, look.
was about to say, it better not be Judy next, because then I'm really going home.

(44:03):
That's all this Dawon watch.
It's the 90 day fiancé, 395 pounds and growing.
Whatever the name of these damn shows are.
My TV stays on either TLC or HGTV.
Yeah
Yeah, I can relate to that.
I can relate.
That is a duande.

(44:24):
It's always the International Dawon Day.
uh
It's so funny you were everything you were saying like, oh, you know, buy myself a littlesomething, get a little manicure pedicure, like literally that was like my Saturday this.
Let me get out in these streets.
want to you know, there's a little something else I want to like add to the wardrobe.

(44:47):
I want to get a little pampering.
was feeling a little like non human needed to get my nails done and yeah, and feet doneand all that kind of self care.
And I think one of the things that people don't
realizes that um it doesn't have to be big things.
And I love what you said.
It's, you know, just doing the things that I love the most.

(45:09):
I, if I usually, what I'll also do is I'll add in, I'm like, I need to visit someone sothat it's not just a me day.
I would be like, all right, we're going to go visit my parents or we're going to go, I'llcall a friend that I haven't hung out with in a long time and be like, Hey, where are you
at?
What you doing?
You know, let's, know, grab a coffee real quick.

(45:30):
Or you want to get a drink, you know, it, I want to reconnect with those people that arenot a part of my daily interaction.
because sometimes I feel like those people are neglected because I'm at work all the time.
So not everyone's at the club every day, all night long.
So I'm like, I try to include, know, okay, let's visit someone.

(45:52):
I'll uh make sure that, you know, I smile with another person.
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
Well, let's see here.
Before we get into Curiositea here, community, you know, we normally do a separate episodefor the Drag Race stuff, but you know, the finale is out there and you're already done
seeing who won.
So it is what it is.

(46:13):
Okay.
How did you feel about season 17, which is crazy to say I might see 17 and then what didyou think about the finale?
And then the winner.
I didn't watch.
Wait, do you still get joy out of watching?
Like you've been on it three seasons.

(46:35):
Do you still get joy out of that?
Well, okay, so I explain it to people this way.
I've competed in three seasons, and then I've done a holiday special with Drag Race.
I've worked behind the camera now as a makeup artist, so I've participated in severalother seasons, just as that being my day job.

(47:01):
And then at night, I'm doing my job as a queen.
I can't consume drag all the time.
when people are like, oh, what'd you think of this episode?
I'm like, baby, I didn't watch.
I didn't watch.
I was busy doing what I do.
So.

(47:22):
Team job.
I was like, it's not that I don't want to, but I just can't all the time.
So I only watch if I have a horse in the race.
If I know someone personally, I'm like, okay, I want to watch and cheer you on.
But I didn't know any of the girls.
The only girl I did know was Onya and she won.

(47:49):
She came to town uh before she got on Drag Race.
Right before she got on Drag Race, I got a message and was like, I'm coming to town.
there any way I can get some work?
Absolutely.
And so I booked her and a show and we're sitting there and everyone else leaves thedressing room and she's like.

(48:11):
Can I ask you a question?
I'm like, sure.
And she's like, I'm going to the race.
And I was like, oh, okay.
I was like, right.
And she's like, you have any advice for me?
I was like, absolutely.
I'll give you some advice.
I'm like, come on sis, let me help you out.
So I gave her some advice and I'm happy to see that she ended up taking the crown becauseshe's a really, really nice person.

(48:34):
That's good to hear.
I was about to burn this mother down if she didn't win.
was like, fuck all this TV.
Fuck it all.
Burn it all the way down.
When she got back from filming, I ended up booking her again when she was in town and Iwas like, so how'd go?
And she was just like, and just gave it a nod and said.

(48:54):
There we go.
It's like, mother's oh
I said, I don't need to know nothing else.
said, I'm happy with if you're smiling, I'm happy.
When you when you interact with other queens, more specifically black queens, what is thefeeling is, is there a sense of community being built within the black drag community?

(49:18):
Or does it still feel a bit fractured, like people kind of doing their own things, and youhave some clicks that are together and you know, things like that?
Like, what's your what's your
You take that
sip take that sip take that He said next question.
I'll be honest.

(49:38):
I'll be honest and say within the black queens, um there are people who are clicky andthere are people who are just about themselves.
And then there's some of us who get it and we're supportive of each other.
So it's a little bit of everything.

(49:59):
And it's kind of evident if you see it on social media that who's
Who's who with who.
So yeah, it's something else.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm not that surprised just because I mean, I see it just withinthe queer community within, you know, when it comes to different races and backgrounds of

(50:21):
the queer community and then like, within the black community, the black queer communityas well.
Like I live in Seattle and black people make up 6 % of the place like we here, okay.
Even within that number, there's still some people who over here because they work in techand they just think.
You know, I my degree and I'm making this money and I'm over here.

(50:42):
You got some of the degree.
You got your degree.
you
there's me Monique over there being like, exactly, since you got your degree.
Right?
But I mean, like, I just, it's crazy to, I wouldn't say it's crazy.
I wish that we would get to a point where, especially when we have platforms to be able tomake space for everyone, that everyone would just be on one accord when it comes to that.

(51:10):
You know?
And that it's not a competition, you do you, I do me, we can just at the same time.
As Dawon has gotten me to learn, it's not always a this or that.
It could be a this and that, right?
And multiple things can happen at the same time.
I just wish we took from that just a little bit more.
Yeah, I agree.

(51:31):
I definitely agree with that.
I'm not gonna lie.
I went to see Nubia when the first round and it was such a joy to come out and support uha fully black produced performed experience.

(51:51):
And I was hopeful that upon the success of that.
that run that we would see more of black queens banding together and doing things likethat.
You you don't have to have, you know, some of the old geez in order to make that happen.
But, you know, there's there's enough coin to go around.
And what I loved about that experience is that it wasn't necessarily tied to like a bar.

(52:16):
was showcasing their talent produced the way they wanted it to be produced and gave thevibe that they wanted to create.
And uh
I was hope I'm hopeful that was I am hopeful that we'll see more of these black typeproductions coming out of some of our black queens and hopefully we'll get some of you

(52:37):
know some of these new queens that are coming out that have the hunger and fire underneaththem to maybe.
the new knees.
uh
These knees and ankles, baby, I can't.
uh
Get them new knees out there.
Come on, Onya.
In, in, in.
Come on, Little girl, little girl, little girl, come over here, little girl.

(53:02):
Uh-uh, because these are the same as they used to be.
All right, we're going to get into Curiositea real quick here.
So let's see here.
The first one here is, let's see, who is your favorite actor or character from All That?
Since you do your All That throwback Tuesday at the Abbey.

(53:23):
Gosh, ah what was her name?
it Mary Beth?
Was that her name?
or Lori was Lori Beth or Mary Beth?
She was the chunkier one.
Yeah, library information.
Yes.

(53:44):
Yeah, she was my favorite.
She was just in a commercial as that librarian recently.
We didn't have to see that.
Something like that.
Something like that.
Not Dewine remember a name?
I don't remember a name.
I guess it must be a Dewine.
That must be his favorite too.

(54:06):
All the way wrong.
Lori Beth Denberg.
Damn, Burr.
See, I knew it was something, man.
Close enough.
You're old girl.
You knew who we was talking about.
had one of the three names, okay?
You had one of the three names.
There was a Beth, and you got it.
So...
We knew exactly who we was talking about.
I knew it was one of them, man.

(54:27):
was like, okay, there's a separate name and it's Beth.
I know that.
That part.
Is there a number that you know will kill every single time?
ooo ahhhh
I have a...

(54:48):
Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston, have nothing.
I Yeah, baby.
I have nothing.
I always love you.
Because who does?
Mmm when I do I always love you.
It's a crowd pleaser Definitely, but the other one usually that's the one everyone's like

(55:16):
Yeah.
it's also the, it's the, it's the music pause and breaks in that song too, for a lip syncthat you have to have that timing.
And actually I think that's trending right now in TikTok where they're like the, the drop,
Like we see a lot of people who are like in drums like trying to get the drop down.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
Same time.

(55:36):
Yeah, it's the key change and everything.
Yeah, she's like, yeah, shut up.
That's dear.
Wait, speaking of Whitney Houston, y'all saw that mean that said, uh, y'all crack headangle.
I'll do our crack head for the national anthem.
Talking about.
I'm gonna send it to you.
forget.
Yeah.
Keep telling me, tell me about this conversation.
I can't.

(55:57):
you
the internet be online.
It really do.
Stay on one.
Let's see here.
Do you still not wash dishes and buy new ones or have you started washing dishes?
You
I learned my lesson about just saying shit on podcasts.

(56:20):
like, I need to guard my words sometimes because I said that and it has haunted me eversince.
mean.
You
She said, I'll be throwing shit away.
uh

(56:41):
Okay, I'll put it this way.
I'm not throwing away dishes and pots and pans anymore.
I have paper goods that I dispose of.
I'm with you on that.
I'm with you on that.
Your favorite color wigs, blonde, black, or brunette?

(57:03):
or a ginger moment, a red moment.
I okay, I love love love love and ash blonde on me.
Um, it's a specific shade.
It has to be ash.
But if I find the right color of Auburn, that's my favorite.
oh
Okay.

(57:26):
love an Auburn on Rue still.
Same.
Same.
Because she been in this block.
This season in the wigs of Rue by the way, I was not happy.
uh
up and it's outfit and it's the padding and it's a shoe.
Wait hold on, you didn't do the makeup did you?

(57:47):
uh
I don't ever get to do, I do not get to do Rue, but I did try on one of her wigs once andI...
Like, oh my, I was like, my gosh, she's sweating this.
uh I was like, oh, this is Rue's.

(58:10):
We get that.
oh I felt like I put on a crown.
was just like, I said, there's no other girl that can say I've been in RuPaul's wigs.
I'm like, I'm the only one.
But does RU know you's been in RuPaul's way?
She got- oh fuck.

(58:35):
I was like, get it on, get it on.
And I was like, no.
so see, it's Raven's fault.
I like, it's fine.
going to I want to manifest this because I feel like you and Raven would be the perfectrecast of it's a simple life.
Like have you in drag?

(58:57):
Can you imagine you going into like, you know, small towns and little little bars orwhatever just causing all kinds of chaos and mayhem?
Yeah, that's what we used to do all the time.
We're from a little town.
So we were going to I used to terrorize the straight bars here in Riverside.
I would go to all the straight bars in drag and just party with the with the boys andthey're like, who is this black drag queen in here?

(59:30):
Going drag I'm like, yeah, girl, come on, let's go.
uh
I love it.
Let's see here.
Okay, I'm gonna preface this with we love both the queens, okay?
Sasha Colby or Sasha Velour.
That's not fair.

(59:51):
I
Oh, my gosh, because they're two of my favorites.
um Do I have to pick one?
The other Duvall said yes, so I'm gonna go with the other Duvall.
You got 10 toes, you better stand on this.

(01:00:11):
uh I will say it with you.
I'll be.
Yeah.
I see that.
And it could be like a 51, 49%, like literally.
I love Colby because we've been friends way before Drag Race and we have the same taste inmusic.

(01:00:36):
She is the only other queen I know that performs a lot of the stuff that I do that no oneelse knows.
So we have that connection.
But Velour, I adore her artistry.
Just in her own lane, in her complete own lane.
Mountains or beach?

(01:00:58):
Ah, man, you're really killing me today.
ah I adore the beach, but my spirit has been in the mountains this past year.
like Montana mountains or California mountains?
California mountains, I live at the base of a mountain right now, so I go to the mountainsevery so often when I have a day off.

(01:01:22):
So I love the mountains anywhere though.
Yeah, OK.
Come in Seattle.
We got plenty.
I love Seattle.
I love Seattle.
You got some hills over here in New York.
You
some pills.
oh
guess we got the polka-nose I think about over here.
So you know, we got the polka-nose.

(01:01:44):
Have you ever gotten to meet Lady Gaga in person after denying her the dressing room atthe beginning of her career?
And tell this story, by the way.
A lot of people might not know this story.
When Gaga first appeared to the world, she went on a gay bar tour, because that's whateveryone does, you gotta get the gays first.

(01:02:08):
So she came with her disco stick and we were told that we were...
I can't guess what that was.
oh
that there was going to be this artist coming and they were going to perform after ourdrag show.

(01:02:31):
And we were going to have to share the dressing area, but our dressing area was reallysmall at that place.
I am some other people were like, absolutely not.
We throw a big stink about it.
And so they end up getting like a like a little trailer and had it parked in the parkinglot and they had her get ready in that instead.

(01:02:58):
And I have not seen her since then is my biggest regret.
I was that bitchy, was like, absolutely not, what's up, Lady Gaga, ugh.
Thank you guys for watching!
Thanks for

(01:03:19):
you
It was great.
it was just dance have went like bananas three weeks later.
oh It was on everything and I was like,
He said, oh, is that Lady Gaga?
Oh, that's that girl.

(01:03:40):
uh
He says Stephanie, Stephanie that's you girl.
That was like, that's that girl with that stick and them goggles.
uh I mean, to be fair to be to be completely fair.
When when Gaga came out, that was like, complete left field from an artistry perspective.

(01:04:07):
So like, and at that time, there were like a gang a little like blonde little girls thatwere, you know, doing kind of like the similar kinds of things.
So yeah, it's it's the world wasn't really ready.
for that and y'all had oh earned your spot in that dresser room.
So I don't blame you one bit for my

(01:04:29):
that little white girl and her in the trailer.
I said, put her in the Winnebago
She's earn her dues like every goddamn body else.
If you go come to the gay bars and do a tour, look, that's what we do in the gay bar.
mayhem this is part of her origin story so in a way uh

(01:04:51):
You're welcome.
Right.
Right.
Mayhem is responsible for the new mayhem that's out now.
She learned a lot in that trailer by herself.
That's why it's named Mayhem.
uh
done to you.

(01:05:13):
Oh Lord.
You once said that you blame Freddie, Tyson, Ryan, John, Boris, Shamar, Jared, JC, Chicoand Jew for de-straightening you in the 90s.
Which, so I'm gonna give you three and the rest gotta go.

(01:05:33):
Who really did the de-straightening though?
God, okay, who was on that list?
ah
again, you have Freddie Perez Jr.
You had Tyson Beckford.
You had Ryan Philippi.
You had John B.
You had Boris Kujo.
You had Shamar Moore.
You had Jared Leto.

(01:05:54):
You had J.C.
Shazay.
had Chico DeBarz.
Chico DeBarz was fine as shit back in the day, And Drew Law.
My my B, Chico.
He had just got out of jail when he had that song with Joe.
m She said she had a type.
I have a type.
um

(01:06:16):
Chico came out and he said, baby, I don't like women's no more.
Okay, three is Tyson
Ryan.
tomorrow.

(01:06:38):
I think we have a very similar top three, honestly.
And Ryan, still looks good today.
Ryan still looks good.
Tyson still looks Shumar still looks good.
Kujo and his wife, that's just a pretty ass couple.
Yeah, they're beautiful.
Woo!
Freddy Perez ain't aged as well.

(01:07:00):
Yeah, Freddie, he didn't age too well.
He still look good though.
He look aight, I wouldn't say n*** but...
think out of that whole group, I think everyone did okay, A-G.
Yeah.
Yeah, I haven't seen Chico.
I know where Chico at but uh, she's just on John B on the Sherry Shepherd show Yeah, he'sgot a new song I just came out I haven't listened to it.

(01:07:25):
want to listen to it.
We'll see if it's gonna give me the 90s energy cuz I don't know some of the people some ofthe people making their making a second trip or making their comebacks I Ain't been
featuring it just a little bit.
Sorry.
Carrie was always invited to the barbecue
Yeah.
You said no carry?
I didn't like the The album was not good.
I didn't like it.

(01:07:45):
I didn't like the rest of the songs.
Yeah.
It just felt like, like she pushed pause and then push play from back then.
But there was nothing new to make it a little bit more updated.

(01:08:07):
I felt like I was literally listening to a song from a previous album.
What's
I, when I listened to music back then, I listened to those albums.
If you don't give me something from back then, I need something just a little bitdifferent.
Just not in the whole buzz different, but it was a copy and paste and back then.
And like she says a three part album.

(01:08:28):
So like, this is like the first part of the other two.
So I'm hoping the other two parts stay away from Beyonce.
That's how she got canceled in the first place.
What's you mean?
You going to do a three part album?
I'm sorry.
This is about mayhem.
So back to the questions.
uh Alright, we're gonna put together a drag race Voltron Okay, and we're gonna we're gonnaso the Voltron is like the different pieces so it could be You know one piece from this

(01:08:54):
drag queen this piece from this drag queen and the first one's gonna be makeup But itcan't be Raven because that's a cheat code Who would do the makeup for this this Voltron?
Okay.
Who has good makeup?
uh

(01:09:17):
He said, nobody else but me and Raven, shit.
I will say morphine
get awake!
He loves him some more feet!
Damn it!
Aw, y'all duans are the same!

(01:09:39):
You
Literally just like the night at the queerities we took a picture with morphine dissentedthe one because he loves more the way more
Her makeup is really really good.
It is very good.
it's under and honestly, it's underappreciated in the stratosphere of everything thatexists because that girl can paint.
Alright, which drag queen is going to be doing the hair?

(01:10:03):
Who's?
Yeah, yeah.
See that's a cheat code though too, because Delta'd be doing it.
So outside of Delta.
Mmmmm
that's good hair.
you
It'd be so hard!
You

(01:10:33):
He said, he said, I'm going bald headed.
Sasha Ballard.
You're gonna get dragged for this because the name should be dropping off off the tongue.
What you're what you're not saying.
17 iterations and all 10 star all stars.
They all hate you right now.
They say a bit

(01:10:55):
you
Since you got your fucking degrees.
I'm just egging.
uh
I can't think of someone that has great hair.
um

(01:11:16):
As for those, listen, like Delta did wigs with Rue, so that's a cheat code.
Raven and Delta, you can't do them, because that's the ultimate drag queen.
Doing the hair and the makeup for the ultimate one.
Mmmmm
Yeah, I know, we're going bald.
Yeah.
We're gonna wear a helmet.

(01:11:36):
A helmet.
uh The Gigi Good collection.
um
shit, no!
She sure does good hair.
She does great hair.
did a wig for me.
Yeah, we're going GG.
Yeah.
See, I got you,
I forgot she did a wig for me.
Yeah, she's good.
Yeah, okay.
So we'll go with Gigi.

(01:11:57):
righty.
Performance style.
Chad Michaels.
oh
Okay, okay.
Captivating.
Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be entertained.
You know what?
I haven't done this one before.

(01:12:17):
I'm gonna throw this one in here because it just came to me.
The wit.
Have I done the wit?
Like the comedic style.
personality, the way she comes across.
Jasmine Masters.
I'm not mad at Hey, what's up, Jazz?
Hey, Jazz.
Hey, Jazz.
We gotta have our back on the podcast.
Makes me laugh so much.

(01:12:40):
I love her to death.
Her in the dressing room, it's a riot.
It really is.
That's how I got to meet Epiphany because I reached out to Jasmine who's in Palm Springsand she was like, I'm performing with Epiphany at the flip phone.
And every time I go to Palm Springs, I'm like, what's up, sis?
And then the business acumen.

(01:13:03):
oooohhhh Bianca
I'm mad at that answer know, Bianca lowkey be painting too, lowkey.
It's very Bianca, but Bianca be painting.
She can paint and it's original.
That's her, that's her stamp.
And I wonder if she could do anything different outside of that, but it's good.

(01:13:25):
It's good when you look at it up close, it looks great.
And then when on stage, it looks even better.
Yeah, I'm like, okay, Bianca, low key.
But yeah, no, her business is acumen, okay.
And then is there, like, I mean, that's the Voltron.
Is there to you a uh rush more of drag?
Like, who are the four people where you're like, this is just the epitome of drag outsideof yourself?
We already know.

(01:13:47):
Yes.
My Mount Rushmore is wait Rushmore is four or is it five?
Four.
Oooooh, Raven?

(01:14:11):
Sasha Colby
Mmm.
I would pick...

(01:14:31):
UGH!
Hmm.
this is hard.
I'm like, we're doing velour too.
And then I'll land with...
I'm gonna land with...
ooooh sh-

(01:14:53):
You
Raja ah
I think that's a really good rush more.
uh 1000%.
These are contemporaries too.
was wondering if you were going to go like, you know, like homage to or, you know, like,so that's, this is great.

(01:15:16):
Yeah, yeah.
And then we always ask everyone this, who's Beyonce or Janet?
Jam it.
No hesitation, no beat, because it wouldn't be.
You said that, you're the one that said this the quickest.
I, Janet was the last concert I saw and I was blown away.

(01:15:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and she's still up there at like 58, 59.
I didn't realize how much of her music that I love.
I sang through the whole concert.
was like, dang, she has a lot of hits that I just, I was like, oh my God.

(01:15:59):
Yeah, you are that girl.
I was like, okay.
And she was the first tape I ever bought.
First cassette tape.
Yeah.
She was my first CD that I ever got.
My parents got me the Jan...
They got me a couple for that Christmas.
It was the Boyz II Men, their first album, and then two had just come out.

(01:16:19):
It was a Janet album, and I feel like I'm missing one in there.
I forget what the fourth one is then, but all I knew was the Janet with the titties out,and I was like, that's how they should've known I gay.
I didn't want the titties.
was just like, oh, just like the gorgeousness of it.
And I was like, oh my gosh, she's so pretty.

(01:16:39):
Oh, we'll never forget that.
It was the CD and I got my boombox that year too.
Best Christmas ever to this day.
Best Christmas ever.
man.
Well, Dawon, AKA Mayhem.
We're to have to you back because you're a key of a time.
Tell them, obviously the music's out.
Tell them what you have coming up, whatever you want to tell.

(01:17:01):
Tell them where to find you.
They know where you're at, but just in case for those that are living on the rock, tellthem where to find you.
I'm in the streets, I'm in the streets, You can catch me at a show everywhere in SouthernCalifornia, and anytime, any day of the week.
Mondays, we're in Palm Springs at Toucans.

(01:17:25):
Tuesdays, we're in West Hollywood at the Abbey.
Wednesdays, we're in San Diego at Moe's.
Thursdays, I'm in bed.
Friday
I'm in Riverside at VIP nightclub.
Saturdays I'm in WeHo at the Abbey and Sundays I'm in Palm Springs at Toucans.

(01:17:47):
I hope you get electric car.
I do.
You say you in the car and drive some more?
I'm like, ain't driving nowhere.
That's two hour drive from LA to Palm Springs.
Riverside is on the way to Palm Springs, right?
If I'm not mistaken.
Riverside is on the way to, because that's where you're from originally.

(01:18:08):
So that's on the way to Palm Springs.
Yeah, it's right in the middle between Palm Springs and LA.
Yeah, so I guess you're used to that highway there.
baby, I'm surprised you remember that the way I was driving.
All I know is I ain't getting no car from Palm Springs to L.A.
with Jerrell no more.
Baby damn they're killed us on them highways.

(01:18:30):
And you still alive and no tickets.
You welcome.
Oh Lord.
Well, Dawon Jarrell, anything else in your hearts of mind before we get out of here?
I just want to say thank you again.
I know I was a random ass stranger who came up to you and was like, love you.
I want you on the podcast.
We need more representation.
I want to give you your flowers.

(01:18:51):
thank you for not being scared of me because I know they call me Hanny for a reason.
I come on a little
I'm
It's little bit strong.
And honestly, like meeting you that night was literally one of my highlights and justhaving someone who is so well known, just be so kind and gentle with me and that space was

(01:19:12):
just so nice, especially with a room full of so many people who are just, you know, knownin the queer space.
And I just, when you talked about, you know, just like leading with purpose and being aperson of service, like,
it really shone that night.
And then you also following through and being a person of your word just just solidifiesthat even more.

(01:19:33):
I just honestly just thank you.
Like it means so much to me.
It's my pleasure.
Thank you for seeing me and I hope I helped you feel seen as well.
So thank you.
do absolutely well community uh how do how do kids do it these days
Girl.
I can't throw up these signs.

(01:19:57):
I'm outfingers right.
Wash your hands, you like jazz.
We'll see you next week uh
Hey community, a lot of you have asked how you can support Minoritea Report outside of thesharing and downloading and subscribing and leaving reviews, but you can also buy merch.

(01:20:21):
Come on, baby.
I know that's right.
And we have a whole lot of options from clothing to pillows to tumblers and bags.
And we continue to update all of our stuff with new styles, new colors and new products.
Jerrell, where can they get all that stuff at?
Well, they can get all that and then some at MinorityReport.com.
They can find all the goodies, find all additional information about your aunties.

(01:20:44):
And we also want to make sure that you share and tag us when you do buy merch.
All right.
So let us know if it's a hoodie, it's a tee, a long shirt, a towel, because we know youneed those.
But let us know.
Absolutely.
And remember to wash your hands, your legs, and your ass.
uh

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