Diddy Kinda Did It, Beyonce Is A Survivor, (More) Booty Bangs & Inner Thigh Meat

In this episode of Minoritea Report, Yo Aunteas spill all the tea on Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter tour (and how they tried to unalive her), Diddy’s conviction, their love for thick thighs and “booty bangs,” and Disability Pride Month.

They talk about:
– Why Beyoncé’s concerts set the standard
– How thick thighs and inner thigh meat keep us in the gym 👀
– The community impact of Diddy’s verdict
– Disability Pride and what “We Belong Here” means
– The best (and worst) concerts we’ve attended

Plus, Marko shares updates on the Relationshit podcast with new co-host, Steve, and they share why Black queer voices matter now more than ever.

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Time Stamps:

00:00 Introduction and Wi-Fi Woes
01:32 Opening and Heyyy Patrick!
03:46 Booty Bayang & Inner Thigh Meat
09:35 Community Engagement and Listener Interaction
10:50 Podcast Evolution: A New Chapter
19:38 Disability Pride Month: Acknowledging Diverse Experiences
22:36 They Tried To Kill Beyonce
36:04 Sean Diddy Combs Verdict and Reactions
48:43 Couples Therapy
01:10:01 NYC Pride

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
I guess she didn't want to talk to us.
As she said, uh-uh.
guess, you know, sometimes she gets Wi-Fi issues too.
So I'm assuming that's what happened.
Yeah, it's a little hairy around these hair parts.
Step up this step up these Wi-Fi in New York Hey boo, how you doing?

(00:23):
have wifi problems.
I have Brookstone problems.
that too.
That too.
Right.
said, it ain't wifi ho.
I heard what I heard.
Y'all started it when you talk about she coming in hot.

(00:47):
I didn't always have Wi-Fi, reliable Wi-Fi, unlike some people that have guest hosted onthis podcast before.
coming in hot.
is,
Hey community, here's what's brewing today.

(01:10):
Did he kinda did it?
Beyonce is a survivor.
Yes, and booty bangs and inner thigh meat.
So get your cups ready for Minoritea Report.

(01:32):
Hey hey, welcome to Minoritea Report, it's Auntea Kerel
It's Auntea Dawon
And it's Auntea Marko
Hey, hey, look at that.
You know, usually we say it's DeWine out in these European streets, but this week it'sAuntea Hattie over there over in Wimbledon with my man, Patrick Marantaglou.

(01:55):
I was like, girl, if you don't, don't mess with my man.
I don't know what I'm gonna do.
I was like, you better get your hands off my man.
Come on, hey, Patrick.
oh I'm like, damn.
everyone in the streets these days, that's hot.
is a, Loki, is a fine looking seasoned gentleman.

(02:16):
baby, Patrick is stay getting it.
Body down, face card down.
I like the little accent.
Oh, they both, and clearly he likes chocolate, because his wife is chocolate.
Serena was chocolate.
Yes, yes, Patrick, choose me.
Choose me, Patrick.
What you got on that shirt there girl?
Yes!

(02:36):
A bang!
To wander somebody say booty bay.
We...
living the dream
us?
I said we need to get we need to get that on a t shirt and get that up in our merch storethe booty bang.

(02:59):
Yeah, booty bang.
Yeah.
actually makes me think, community by the way, we're gonna be in the midst of changing ourprovider because they done messed up this last order that one of the community members
still ain't got they shit.
They ain't got the replacement order that I've done sent either.
So I'm a little upset with our provider.
So if you are also ordering shit and it's not there, sorry.

(03:20):
We're in the midst of trying to find a new provider because this is bullshit.
But yes, with the new provider.
Maybe that'll be the launch, it'll be the booty bang tea.
And I forget what episode was that on?
Because I know this was our, I think this was our end of year.
It was one of our end of the year episodes where we, and it was kind of like, was ask youraunties, asking your aunties or something like that.

(03:46):
It was like, what is your?
Yeah.
Yep.
have been beginning this year, end of last year.
I forget, but yeah, we've done found out the why I him a little booty bang.
love booty bangs.
when you said that to the group, because Steve and I listened to the podcast, but Eduardoand Tony had no idea what you were talking about.

(04:08):
And so they were like, wait, pause, let's take a quick rewind.
Baby a booty bag.
was, what is, what is one of your favorite body parts, um, on the male body?
And everybody went around and I said, low key for me, the party body part that drives meabsolutely bonkers is the booty bangs.

(04:30):
And that's the tuft of hair that sits in the small of the back above, above the buttcheeks.
I love that.
I love that.
I love them booty bangs.
And you know, people be like, there was a long time where a lot of people who, you know,where body hair wasn't as socially acceptable within the gay community and people was

(04:51):
shaving their shit off and nairing themselves, where there was a lot of people that, youknow, like did not appreciate the bang and the biack.
But I did, I always did and I still do.
Yes.
said, frothy back there, gets frothy.

(05:15):
Yes.
to stop talking.
Wait a minute.
me take a sip.
He's like...
He's like...
because it's always Corell that's over here talking about like the sexual stuff andeverything so to see the wild get excited about the booty bang I'm always here for it go
ahead boo
talk about all of it because I don't even get to talk about it on our podcast becauseSteve be so bashful.

(05:40):
You know what, Marko, what do you, what's your favorite part?
Obviously, a community, know Marko is married, so we could say on his husband, but maybehe don't listen to the podcast as regularly, so you can sneak in here and tell us what you
like on a man.
That's true, that's true.

(06:01):
On the man's this.
I love, so I do actually love body hair.
Like I love chest hair.
I enjoy hair on like the abs and stuff like that.
But I love a good bicep.
I'm like really, uh I said sept.
Why did I add a T to that?
A good bicep.

(06:22):
Like.
says she's enunciating.
uh
Judy.
A bicep.
No, I love a good bicep.
And yeah, think I really these days I'm really into fucking thick thighs.
I love a meaty thigh.

(06:43):
Yeah.
meat, I'm telling you, will do it every time.
Especially now that I go to the gym regularly, these straight men's be wearing these shortass shorts and that inner thigh meat, I am telling you, I'm looking every damn time, every
damn time.

(07:04):
All of that, all of that like it's 96.
It's not, yeah, not into it.
There is something about really thick thighs and this is coming from someone who doesn'thave them at all.
know, I just, I got, this is just my legs.

(07:25):
You
Not the metal straw.
I'm sorry, you know, you have what you have and you just got to like learn how to embraceit.
So, but um there was something really just like, wow, and somebody has really thickthighs, thighs that like, I could imagine two of my thighs fitting in one of yours.

(07:51):
That is crazy to me.
It's crazy hot.
Oh, forget it.
Let me tell you something.
Do you remember when there was that craze when guys, when social media influencers, likeespecially like personal trainers and guys that like workout were crushing watermelons

(08:12):
with their thighs?
Pornography.
I was like, I was like, this is.
don't need these brains.
Just put my head between the legs.

(08:32):
It's just not Guggenheim.
Yes.
my God.
I was like, this is perfection right here.
Like, yeah.
Ooh, I love that.
Yeah.
m
Community, this was not even on the list, but hey, we going with it.
I am here for it.
Corell over here just longin' and like wishin'.

(08:54):
Because it was leg day at the gym today too, so like I was all by all the leg parts today,all the leg section of the gym.
ha ha ha ha ha ha
You know, but like even now, like I never was like a back person, but there's this one guyat the gym, super cute, and he works at the, he's like a young kid, works at the grocery

(09:15):
store behind the meat counter.
And one day I came home and I was like, Cory, and I didn't know he worked at the meatcounter, because normally I don't go during the week, I don't think he works the weekends,
but I just happened to go during the week, and he was working there.
And I was like, oh, that's the cute boy from the gym.
So I came home and told Cory, I was like,
Because I had told him there's this cute boy at the gym blah blah blah blah and I was likeCory It's the meat counter guy at Acme.

(09:38):
He's like, oh, I know exactly who you're talking about He is just so cut up and when hedoes like back day, he'll wear like the little stringers and everything I was never really
a back person but his back I'm like, my god like oh
Baby, I'm like, this man is sexy as shit.

(10:01):
And he got to intertie me too.
It's just too much.
I'm like, this shit is too much for me.
oh Community, let us know.
I forget if people wrote in during that episode.
If you did, we need to hear some more.
What do you like on a menses?
we were going to put a, like a uh post or something, something out there to like collectsome, some informations from the community, but I think that fell through the cracks.

(10:33):
Yeah.
Yes.
We wanna know.
Yeah.
of the year.
Put it out there and give us some examples too.
What IG pages you following?
Yes, yes, please.
I've got a few that I can send your way.
Please do.

(10:55):
man, anyway community, since last time Markle was here, there's probably been some updateson the podcast.
If you're not listening to his podcast, we'll get all the insights on that.
there were some changes that were on Pop Relationship here.
Relationship Pod, I should say.
oh Explain the changes and what's new over there in podcast land for you, boo.
Uh, well, thank you.

(11:16):
Yeah.
After, uh, 10 seasons.
I mean, you guys have heard my voice a couple of times on the podcast because I've been onhere not only by myself, but also with my then cohost slash husband, or I guess husband
slash cohost.
Uh, but yeah, right.
Uh, but yeah, Tony and I, after 10 seasons, Tony was done.

(11:39):
He felt like he had said everything that he wanted to say.
and he was no longer interested in being part of that podcast life.
So um I did not feel as though I was done.
I felt like I still had a lot more to say.
And so I reached out to a very best slash dear friend of mine.

(12:02):
His name is Steve, Steve Lowe.
uh Yeah, we love us some Steve.
And I was like, bitch.
how do you feel about doing a podcast together?
Because I think that as a single person that's in these streets, that's in the trenches,that's like, yeah, I mean, he's in the trenches, but he's like, also he's doing the leg

(12:25):
work.
And by leg work, mean, he's doing the leg Yeah, he out here doing the leg work.
And so I'm like, what if we did a podcast from the perspective of,
a single black gay man that is out here and a married black gay man and we talk aboutrelationship issues and dating situations and we talk about it from our perspectives and

(12:52):
have some fun.
And so ah the rebirth of relationship came about and so now it's a black queerconversation about relationships and dating.
ah It's still out every single Wednesday.
and Steve and I still talk about very important relationship issues, but we talk about itfrom our perspectives and kind of talk about it, how he feels about it or what he's

(13:15):
recognizing again out here in these streets.
And then I talk about it as I'm dealing with it every single day with that man that I callmy husband.
Yeah.
right I know that's and community if you haven't seen Steve Q the shit so go out there andcheck if you single he single maybe we get some getting y'all some mingling

(13:38):
Aw, thank you.
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's it.
It's been fun.
And then literally as we're recording this today was the last live recording of season 11.
Everything else from here on is going to be encore episodes, but you can catch us againevery Wednesday.

(14:03):
on our end now.
It's probably still recording on your end.
So if you hear us, Marko, you're frozen right now, boo.
I was over here trying to play it off.
I'm like, mm hmm.
And we've done that many times over the years that y'all don't know like the guest wasfrozen for a minute and we just over here smiling to nine like, yeah, yeah.

(14:26):
You right, you right.
But we'll get him back here in a second looks like he's trying to come back a little bitBut um, but yeah, no community like it's refreshing to kind of hear the perspective
especially like I mean like Marko and Steve is like in our like orbit now like they'relike our friends for real for real and So it's just been awesome to kind of hear the shift

(14:50):
of the pocket.
There we go.
I see you now you're back boo Did I speak too soon
It's back.
I am so sorry.
My dad just called and I think that kicked me off the internet.
That was good.
This is like definitely 1997.
Got that on that hot spot.
Catch me at the hot spot.

(15:10):
I fox, I rock.
community, we're not going to steer you wrong at the end of the day.
If you're not listening to pod relationship, you should be regardless of your relationshipstatus.
It's great dialogue.
It's not, you know what it is.
It's, um, too really highly, um,

(15:31):
intelligent and and super self reflective individuals that are pulling from their ownexperiences.
You know, talking about these things and bringing on really great guests.
But I mean, you know, she she has frequented.
She has she has frequented them streets over there.

(15:52):
But like what I what I love about the addition of Steve and
You know, again, I love Tony.
Tony, why am I?
I get for clipped.
I do.
But not but and Steve just brings a really great dynamic to the podcast.

(16:12):
There is a friendship level that you all have and a camaraderie that you all have thatsupersedes the relationship.
component that you have with your husband.
And it's great to see that level of frivolity.
I can, I can, I can.
barely count the number of times where, you know, I've just been cackling along with thetwo of you in a laughing fit about whatever topic that's coming up.

(16:40):
uh And I love that.
And so you give really great information, you explore things in a really practical wayand, uh and you bring on guests that are really like thought provoking and interesting.
So, yes.
Right.
Yes, absolutely.
Thank you and thank you for vamping while my internet like took a dive back to 1998 forsome strange reason.

(17:05):
It was on dial up.
My dad called and like killed, kicked me off the internet, which is crazy.
uh Yeah, it's uh yeah, it's been fun and it's a different dynamic obviously because I'mnot like talking with my husband, which is different, but like I do get to Kiki with a
friend and.
Steve and I talk about it all the time because I listen to a lot of podcasts.

(17:26):
Obviously, I listen to you guys every single week.
I listen to things like Surface Level.
I've listened to, you know, La Culturistas.
And I just love the dynamic that y'all have as like friends and the laughter and the joy,the queerness, the blackness that exists in, you know, some of those podcasts.

(17:48):
And I was like, you know what?
I want more of that.
I want more of that energy.
I want to be able to talk about somewhat, sometimes serious shit.
And I want to be able to like lighten it up and have a good time and laugh about it.
And I want to talk about things that might be ah sometimes uncomfortable and crazy andthen still find a way to like laugh about it and make each other laugh about it.

(18:14):
And so that's, yeah, that's what it is these days.
That's dope, that's dope.
Love it, love it.
So yeah, community, if you have not subscribed, if you have not followed, now's a goodtime to do so.
And if you haven't subscribed and followed us, like, cause you can see all the, like, it'sfunny you watch YouTube and they're like, I can see all the analytics that shows 80 % of
you guys have not subscribed.

(18:35):
It's so fucking true.
Like I look at the analytics, I'm like, y'all hoes watching and ain't subscribed yet.
Subscribe please, thank you.
Come on, help us all out.
That.
And we be paying attention.
We be paying attention.
Y'all think we don't be paying attention.
We be paying attention.
Shit.
And the killer part about it is I don't, what I don't understand is why is it so hard?

(18:57):
Because it's, it's a follow that doesn't, it doesn't change your, there's no algorithms onyour, on on the user end, like whether it's on YouTube or it's on any of the streaming
services, like just click the subscribe button, help us out.
just so noncommittal these days.
And it's just so crazy, but whatever.
That's a whole other podcast episode topic.

(19:18):
hoe.
Commit to us, damn it.
You ain't gotta commit to the menzies and the inner thigh meats, but at least commit toyour aunties and your Marcos and Stevens.
I'll be committin'.
I'll be in there.
I'm gonna need some tissue after this.
Basement flooded.

(19:39):
and get you a towel.
oh Anyway, before we get too much further, July is Disability Pride Month.
So we go from one Pride Month to another Pride Month.
So those with disabilities, we see you, we respect you, we love you.
Turn up, because we're going to turn up with you this month.
And it's just wild, just like everyone thinks like DEI just means black and brown people.

(20:05):
No, it means disability.
There's like a spectrum to this.
And so they see a lot of the things rolled back right now and even like this crazy assbill that went through the Senate and all this shit just come back on a lot of stuff for
disabilities.
It's so fucking wild and infuriating to me.
Besides like all the other shit that they've cut back in this damn bill and adding tothem.
And for those that say, we care about the budget.

(20:27):
That's going to add trillions of dollars to the budget.
Fuck all y'all.
Fuck all y'all because y'all just talking outside your neck.
But anyway, but July Pride Month for disabilities.
stand up and actually I looked up what the theme this year is and let's see if I get backto my page pages.
The 2025 theme is we belong here and we're here to stay.

(20:47):
Let me say that again.
We belong here and we're here to stay.
And that's the pride month theme this year and we got you boo.
So we know there's folks with disabilities that listen to our podcasts that are part ofthe community.
We got you boo.
We're here to be proud with you.
Yeah.
And I'll just also just chime in.
You know, I've shared this on the podcast.

(21:08):
You know, I have an unseen disability.
have a couple.
I have some physical disabilities and some unseen uh mental disabilities.
You know, I'm dyslexic.
And so um that shows up in a couple of ways for me, obviously, transposing numbers andletters, just how my brain re
reacts to information is very difficult.

(21:31):
It also affects my memory and where things are stored and whatnot.
As obviously if you ever hear anybody ask me who's that person, what's that name, what'sthat lyric?
Don't ask the one, I can't deal with that.
And from a physical perspective, you know, I have hypohydrosis, which means I sweatprofusely.
all over, not just like under my pits and blah, blah.

(21:51):
And the reason I'm sharing that is because people don't always know the afflictions, thetroubles, the challenges, the obstacles, the pain that others may be experiencing and...
perhaps suffering in silence or potentially have overcome and found a way through it andhave been able to manage with their disability.

(22:14):
So it's months like this that help us to recognize that we are not alone in ourexperiences, but also gives the opportunity for us who are experiencing differences to
share those with others so that people also know that they're not alone.
So um again, as Carole said, this month we see

(22:36):
We love you, celebrate you, and we're gonna fight with you and alongside with you.
Um, y'all, they tried to kill Beyonce.
And I am not here for it.
I'm upset about it.
Don't be trying to clear it.
We know she's spectacular.
You don't gotta take her out.
She'll go home.
She'll gladly go home then if that's what you gotta do.

(22:59):
She will sit her ass on the couch then.
Don't try to kill her in that Cadillac.
my damn!
I low-key feel like she's like, damn, I gotta go back to the, you fucking United States ofAmerica.
What can I do to prolong this exposure to all the shenanigans that are going on backthere?

(23:19):
Because she's been living her life up there in Europe for the longest time.
said this shit didn't happen in Paris.
Yeah, it's so crazy too that it happened night one in Houston.
It's like her own city can't even get its shit together.
That's crazy.
You know she was livid.
You know she was livid back there.
Her am blue ivy.

(23:40):
uh
that that boot wouldn't stay up.
I don't know if you saw that gold boot that kept sliding down.
Yeah, but I was like, that's fine.
it to them over there in Europe.
Your boot can slide down in London.
That's cute.
ah But the fact that the whole cat and mama said, stop, stop, stop.

(24:04):
Yeah.
that's how you know she was like frightened like like She doesn't show a lot of that kindof emotion that often anymore like she's Beyonce So to see her up there you could just
tell she's like damn I'm frightened But then she's like damn now I gotta keep smiling cuzyou know all these people filming this shit out of me right now And if the last video of
me on earth is me scared that ain't gonna happen, but like I couldn't uh

(24:29):
Imagine sitting up there because I don't want to be up there like that.
No way She probably didn't even want to be up there like that.
No way it got talked into it like yeah It's probably good to see the fans out there.
Okay, you right and that shit over here Sitting sideways.
Come on, Houston, Texas.
No, ma'am.
No, ma'am.
You saw the next night that shit was gone
she came out, I forget if it was the BET Awards or the MTV Music Awards or MTV Music VideoAwards where she came out upside down singing, Baby Boy with a medley into Danger City and

(25:02):
Love.
Like upside down, hanging from her goddamn tippy toes onto the stage into a chaise loungechair.
yeah, yeah.
she's been running stunts since, you know, since the beginning.
And the fact that this, this happened so late in her career.

(25:23):
mean, yeah.
m Maybe, maybe she needs to ask some more, some more European dates.
Hello?
Wait, Corell, you haven't seen the cowboy Carter, Tori.
the thing, was like, y'all trying to kill Beyonce before my ass get to see this?
Fuck all y'all.

(25:44):
So the day that, yeah, the day this episode comes out will be the night that I will be atthe Cowboy Cart Tour in DC.
So yes, yes, yes, yes, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
time in Vegas.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm going for a second time in Vegas because I am obsessed with it.

(26:04):
It was here's a controversial take.
Maybe it'll get you all more views.
No, I'm not.
I'm not saying that.
I just think that it was I just I personally think that comprehensively it was a muchbetter tour than the Renaissance tour.
Oh, damn, I, golly, I'm about to fall out.

(26:25):
I'm about to fall out Michael Jackson style then, because Renaissance was everything.
Renaissance was everything and I'm not taking anything away from Renaissance.
I think Renaissance was incredible.
I loved Renaissance, but there is something about this tour that just feels so much morelife-changing than Renaissance.

(26:49):
Like, it just feels like I walked away and I was like, I don't even have words right now.
Like, Renaissance I left and I was hype.
Like I felt injected.
I know that's a really weird word to say, but it's like.
Like.
to the title of this episode, inner thigh meat.

(27:11):
Inject it.
I know that I left Renaissance and I just felt like really hype.
I felt like I got like the spirit in me.
It felt like the Holy Ghost.
But this, I felt saved.
Like I was like, this was church.
Like this was, yeah, I was baptized.
Like this was just, this was church.

(27:31):
It was really good.
I loved it.
I highly recommend so much so that I was like, I have to go a second time.
And it worked.
is once we see because that's what happened with Renaissance like we're like, okay, thesestickers are crazy Okay, let's be responsible fiscally responsible We saw that first time
we black bitch.
We going again My assumption is that's what's probably gonna happen again, so I will be incommunication about Vegas We'll see if we could pull this off potentially um

(27:59):
But uh yeah, and I've done a very good job, similar to what I did with Renaissance, ofdodging a lot.
Like I'm aware, because it's impossible to, but I still haven't seen a full set list.
The stuff that I see is like the same thing over and over, the same kind of few songs,handful of songs.
So I've done a very good job at dodging everything again, like probably 75, 80 % of it.

(28:22):
So I really am going into it pretty blind still, and I'm excited about that because...
uh
There's very few things in earth anywhere that you could just like go and just like besurprised and just like in that moment and I'm going to try my best to not even like
record too much because if I need to see it then I could go back and like scour theinternet because everybody else has like recorded it.

(28:44):
I'm a try I say that but I'm sure I'm gonna have a little you know moments here and there.
I'm super excited like I haven't even allowed myself to really get too hyped because itwas just gonna drive me crazy.
Yeah.
been in the last day or so that I'm like, fuck, we're going to see Beyonce next week.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
feel bad for other artists because after Renaissance, like we always knew that Beyonce hadgreat stage presence and certainly great production value with her concerts.

(29:16):
With Renaissance, we got to see that in arenas.
70, 80,000 plus people packed.
and having a blast and it being an even more elevated experience.
And then when you go from that to damn near any other artist that's out there, you lookaround like, what is this?

(29:45):
I mean, white refrigerator.
No, I- Dhawan, think you said it before, it's middle school talent show these days,like...
It is.
look, we went, so me, Karel and his husband, Corey, uh went to see Janet uh in New York.

(30:07):
And this was...
before she had stopped her tour and then she started back up again, whatever.
So I haven't been to her, I haven't seen the newest iteration of it whatever.
But Vegas shows are a little bit different, like, residencies are a little bit differentthan when you see them on a row.
But after we had just basically came off of six months prior or eight months prior ofseeing Renaissance and knowing what we've known of what Janet can deliver,

(30:37):
And we saw this little carnival, carnival, like ski, she only got, she only got, she onlygot four dancers behind her.
there was no, there were like the, the lighting was like, there were, there were keynotes,there were key lights and whatnot, but like the lighting really wasn't dynamic and

(31:03):
interesting.
years before here.
I'm just wrapping it up now.
Like, so that, I feel bad.
is this?
What is this?
saw Missy, Ciara, Busta.
That was a really good concert.
Like I actually really loved that concert.
ah And I was like, this is, it feels good.

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was a, Ciara sang her face off.
Let me tell you something.
I very, very surprised by that.
Missy did an amazing job.
Costuming was great.
She lip-synced quite a bit, but it's fine.
Like not a big deal.
I couldn't expect Missy to get up there and rap all that shit, but.
that's a lot of words.
And a lot of dancing.

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it was a great concert.
Like it was fun.
Like I had a really good time, but Beyonce is.
outside of Beyonce, it was like one of the top five concerts I've seen.
Yeah, 100%.
I would agree with that.
But Beyonce is the standard these days.
So it's the expectation.
So now you see things like Katy Perry's old Bayonets ass concert these days and you'relike, eww, like, what are you doing?

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It's just weird, but yeah.
Yeah, like it's just an attention to detail.
Even if like, cause the hard thing for, for, and we've said this before, for a lot ofother artists, they just don't have the Beyonce coin.
And if they do, they're not willing to spend the Beyonce coin to get to that level.

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And Beyonce can get the top of the top talent in the industry of the lighting rigs, of thedancers, of the choreographers.
Like she can, there's very few people like it's her and Taylor.
Like
Those are the two that can spend and demand that talent.
Not everyone can do that.
So if you can't do that and you don't have the coin.
that can.

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I will say that there is a lot.
And when you look at the upper echelon of artists in their genre, there's a lot that cando it.
the challenge of it is they're not willing to, or they don't have the vision.
That's it.
That's it.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
there there is a difference between you know putting on a full production like whatBeyonce does and then throwing a uh sheet you know on a you know a board of plywood and
putting some spotlights on it and calling it a concert
I'm so dead.

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but even at the taste, and it is true, it's the taste level, even if you're not gonnaspend that much.
there's still ways to taste level wise and to pay attention to detail that that's whatgets on my nerves.
Like I know you don't have the coin that she's gonna do.
However, you do have the time and the energy to pay attention to detail and to transitionsand to things like that.

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And so that's what pisses me more than anything.
Like, cause seeing like a Stevie Wonder, Stevie Wonder was like, he probably spent a...
Hahahaha
that concert was so well put together because attention to detail and knowing how tocommand a room and keeping that shit moving it and so Baby and moving between keyboards

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and everything nobody helping them with nothing None none
So that's what irritates me about some concerts where I'm like, you just don't care.
You know we're gonna pay the money to see you because of your name and now we out here andyou just lollygagging on stage.
No, hold.
It pisses me off.
It pisses me off.

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the sad part is that you have artists that do that and then are trying to charge whatBeyonce is charging for their tickets and you show up and you're like, what the fuck is
this?
That's why I don't really go to that many concerts.
I just go to, you know, like a handful.
Yeah.

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will say, I will say, of the ones, Missy was up there, I will actually say the JustinTimberlake concert, even though I know he's problematic for some, it was actually a pretty
good concert.
It was actually a pretty damn good concert.
album.
So I really wanted to see it.
But then I was like, do I spin?
It's also his last album.
What was that album called?

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Everything I thought that it would be, everything I thought that it would be is what Ithink it was called.
But I really loved that album.
I thought it was a great album.
But I was like, I don't have $1200 for both Beyonce and Justin.
Usher's was pretty good.
Maxwell's was very good.
That's another one where he didn't have all the hoopla out there.

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But he was paying attention to detail and knew how to command a stage and the lighting wasimpeccable.
So it's just like you don't have to spend, just care, taste and care.
That's what it is for me.
So anyway, come here, you know we can talk about Beyonce all day.
uh
Obviously the day that we're recording this the big news is that Mr.

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Combs, Sean Diddy Combs was convicted on two counts of transportation to engage inprostitution but he was really acquitted on like the big charges.
So he could still face up to 20 years in prison because of those two charges.
The judge decided later this evening that you you're asked to stay in the jail you ain'tget no bail nothing like that so he's got to stay until the sentencing in the fall.

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The internet is already up in the...
The internet is already...
Especially the black internet.
It's already got all they tricks and memes and whatever it is out there.
What are you guys feeling about this verdict here today?
Well, Duann, I just want to point out that if you remember very specifically during anargument that we had with my uncle during DC Pride where we were all sitting around, I

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said that this, I literally said that this exact thing was what was going to happen.
I like specifically, I was like, this is, they're not going to get him on theracketeering.
Mind you, my uncle was trying to say that he's going to get acquitted on everything.
And I was like,
There's no way he's going to get acquitted on everything.
We know too much right now.

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I said, there's no way they're going to get him on something and he's black.
I said, it's going to be hard to get him on the acquitted.
I'm sorry.
The racketeering situation because they just are not pulling in enough big guns to be ableto prove it.
said, and the um sex trafficking thing is going to be very difficult to prove, especiallyif you cannot prove the racketeering situation.

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So if you don't have that.
is gonna be a problem, but they are not going to let him slide with the prostitution, thetransportation of prostitution.
I knew that that was going to happen.
And so I said exactly this.
Look, I think, cause I did follow this case very, very closely.
Cause I was like, I loved this, because this is the drama that I was looking for.

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It was delicious.
Um, and so I hate saying that especially when so many people are affected by this and, uh,you know, there are lives associated with the situation and this is, this is television.
Uh, this is entertainment.
and yeah, I, I need them to throw the book at the head, his ass.

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They couldn't get him for everything, which is fine because I definitely feel like theprosecution definitely did not come.
with their A game.
Like I don't think that they had everything that they wanted, but they wanted to make anexample out of him.
And so I feel like they did their best.
But that being said, he could potentially get up to 20 years.

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I don't think he'll get a full 20.
I definitely do not, but there is hope because mama said, bitch, you go stay here.
You stay in here until the fall, you ain't getting out in the streets in the summer.
No ho, we see what you're doing during the summer.
We learn too much what you do during the summer.

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I was like, okay, this is what I like to see.
So it's crazy though.
said that they're seeking four to five year prison sentence.
So we'll see.
which is exactly what I said.
I said, if he sees a full five years, I will be surprised.
I will be very surprised.

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He's definitely a good time served in some capacity and he'll probably be out in likethree to four years.
I was gonna say, yeah.
On good behavior.
I wonder where they're going to send him.
Like five years is going to be pretty easy to do.
But at the end of the day, I feel like, you know, this is just karma.

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You know, like just coming back and just saying, listen, you know, you did all this dirt,you know, like, and this is I'm sure this is not the end of the punishment, you know, that
that he will experience.
a lot of civil suits out there.
civil lawsuits against him right now.
He will spend the rest of his days hiring lawyers.

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His lawyers cost over $15 million for this case alone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't think that I could handle the stuff that comes along with these kind of cases.

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Like, honestly, it makes me wonder, you know, how do people sleep at night?
Knowing you know that they are that they are responsible for trying to get off somebodythat they knowingly has done Some dirty ass shit and I get it.
You know, a lot of people listening to podcasts right now They're like, you know, they'resleeping on that money.

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That's how they sleeping good at night but but you know, let me tell you there are lot ofpeople that got money that ain't sleeping good at night and Like the the shit that they
have to know
in their heads know for a fact and still have to act different and somehow try toreconcile you know their commitment to the money to the client to the you know to the law

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whatever you know the legal obligations or whatever and reconcile that with their ownmoral compass
That's tough.
That's tough work.
And then you see them 10 years later out here still doing crazy shit and you're like,damn, I know I helped this negro out.

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Yeah, I'm not built for it, quite frankly either.
But you hear that $15 million, you're like, damn, maybe one trial and then I quit.
Just one big one.
It's interesting because there's a side of me that like, you know, not to Pollyanna out onthis shit, but like there's a side of me that likes to believe that like, you know,

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everyone deserves a fair shot at all of this.
And it's not that you don't believe that they did all this shit, but you know, there'sthings people come from different backgrounds and different.
things affect their lives and they shouldn't be punished by the worst days of their life,right?
And all this, all that bullshit, right?

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But I also
way when it comes to like a lot of black people period.
Like, cause like there is a slight moment in my brain, like, yeah, that nigga got off.
But then the other part of me is like, God, he like negatively impacted so many people andput hands on people.
And that, then that part of me is just like, no, no, no, put that, put them in jail.

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But it's just like, the other part of it is just like, there's so many white people inthis country that get off.
We have a fucking.
President right now that got off of all this shit.
So that's the part of me that say but I'm glad this Negro got off too because At least ifthis is gonna be set up to get them off get us off to Dan dammit But

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know if you guys have been following the brian coberger case as well the guy the king'sroad killings like the guy that literally went into like the sorority house in I think it
was in idaho and like killed like four people while there so The the king's road killingsWhich is crazy Um, it's really crazy.

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And so he like went in there.
He killed all these people
He killed these like four college students, like three girls and one guy.
And Idaho, the state where they're at, like he pled not guilty initially, but the statewhere he's at, because Idaho is like one of the only states that still believes in the
death penalty by way of a firing squad.

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Like literally, yeah.
They are crazy.
He ended up...
uh
He just submitted his plea of guilty ah in exchange for the death penalty being taken offthe table and he will serve four consecutive life sentences as a result of it.

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So I say all of that to say that to your point, white people out here be wild and maybedoing all sorts of shit and.
We throw them several bones and find several different ways and or opportunities to sparetheir lives behind the situation.
Oh, it's a mental health crisis.
Oh, it's a it's their background.

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It's their family.
But meanwhile, black people be doing wild shit, too.
Let's be honest, because people is people.
Right.
So they be doing shit, too.
But they get the book thrown at them just by way of being black.
And it's the problem.
did 1000 % so take that take that take that

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Low key though, like when shit broke about Pidia, I was like, finally, God damn, thisnigga been out here doing a whole bunch of shit for all these years.
We've been here, like it was the same thing with R Kelly.
It's like, okay, finally, like I don't like to see it in the sense of, you know, it'slike, oh, this is a, this is a justified witch hunt, but it's still a witch hunt.

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against a prominent black man when there's a whole bunch of other white people that areout there that are doing a whole lot worse that you don't hear anything about.
We don't go after them with the same kind of rigor.
So, you know, like, I'm always a little bit conflicted.
Like, you know, I want the bad doers to get, you know, to get what's coming to them and tohave justice being served.

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Yes.
But also like a little bit of equity, you know, like you take one of ours down, take oneof yours down.
you know, let's where's the next, where is it?
This is true.
This is true.
Yeah.
about 34, 35 of them.
Mind you, Kelly was found guilty on racketeering charges.

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So they managed to get him on that.
But just as another reminder, children was involved.
And so that's why it was much easier to get him on that charge than it was Diddy.
Yeah.
And people were locked up in houses and shit and yeah man that shit is

(46:54):
Yeah.
I wonder, I wonder which studio is going to be the first one that's running over to himtrying to get the rights to his story.
Oh mean 50 out here already trying to do it.
You see?
50 trying.
Petty.
was it?
What was the the family matters one?

(47:15):
It was a it was it was like baby Lou matters or some some shit like that.
So good.
So good.
not care.
There's a few people that I just don't ever want to be on their bad side.
He's one, TS is one.
And that might be about it.
Everyone else, I handle my own, I think.

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Them too?
Hell no, I'm scared as shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Well anyway, community, you know what?
Cat Williams is probably on that list for me as well, I would say.
Worms though, he just tells the truth though.
At least, seemingly it feels like it.
And so if you don't want your truth told, then yes, don't hang with Cat.

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And that's how I feel about that's how I feel about Azalea Banks too like she it's notthat she'd be telling truth But she just be name-calling and just be saying all sorts of
shit.
She'll take you she'll take you out of your religion That's what Azalea will do becauseyou'll be wanting to slap the shit out of her based off the shit that she be saying
Which is so frustrating because she's so talented and she could be having such an amazingcareer but she fucks it up with her just nasty ass mouth.

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It's just like, oh, we were rooting for you.
We were all rooting for you.
Yeah.
wasn't even rooting because she just did it early on.
was like, okay, I can't take this girl.
But she got some bops.
I'll give it that.
oh
a queen with a little bit of mess, know, Wendy Williams, Azalea Burns.
speaking of this is on the list.

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Did you end up watching all of the the seasons of uh couples therapy?
Oh no, I'm like, so okay, y'all.
They didn't bamboozle me.
They didn't.
Baby.
I did.
I did.
my, because it started before COVID, I believe.

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And I found it, I believe, during COVID or right after COVID or something.
And I went down a rabbit hole and watched like the first like three seasons like in onenight.
Like I was so fucking hooked.
And so I haven't watched this latest one.
by the way community, if you don't know, Corell is not the TV watching person.
If it's 30 minutes, can it be 15?

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Like that's him.
cuz like I calculate the hours that's more than anything It's like if I'm behind on a showthen in my head.
I'm like damn.
It's an hour-long show There's 22 episodes this season and this is season 5 I ain't got itlike it just overwhelms me even though I probably do have the time just the thought of it
overwhelms me I'm like no I ain't doing that but that one got me that one got me oh

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say that.
Tony and I actually auditioned to be on Couples Therapy.
we were, yeah, we were, yeah, we auditioned, we auditioned twice.
um And they, was like super, like we were very close to being picked.
um Very, very close to being picked to the point where they had us like meet with,virtually meet with.

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the therapist that was gonna be on the show to like talk about all of our problems.
And then they just ended up going with another couple.
uh And then the second time we did it, it wasn't a really good time, because we were likenot in a good place after like my cancer surgery, all of that other stuff like that.
So it just didn't work out that way.

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But yeah, we were close to being on that show.
How did you even hear about it to go on it?
Or had this season been out already and then you're like, ooh, that would be kind of funto go on.
If I remember correctly, I was listening to the Savage Love cast and Dan Savage had putout like a PSA about the audition and me just me and me I'm like, let me just throw out an

(51:08):
audition and see what happens and I did and they emailed me back.
It was like, yeah, like we would love to and then Tony and I, Tony and I like audition thefirst time they asked us about all of our problems.
uh
And uh then they emailed us back and was like, we want to talk to you again.
And so we like auditioned a second time with like, uh with like the producers of the show.

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And then they emailed us back after that and was like, we want you to like meet with likea therapist that like as like an interim therapist, like while we locked down the actual
therapist and we were like, fine, okay, so we did that.
And then they were like, we want you guys to
we found the therapist, we guys auditioned with the therapist that is going to be on theshow.

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And Tony and I were like, sure.
And so we auditioned with them.
Yeah, it's crazy.
yeah, we, yeah.
And then we did, like I said, they ended up going with another couple.
ah But yeah, we almost were on the show.
It's crazy.
Y'all must not have been severe enough because baby, the situations that these couples arein, I don't even, I'm sorry.

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I have so many thoughts that are trying to race towards my mouth right now.
I feel bad for the psychoanalyst for Orna because she got to sit here and
actively listen to the copious amount of bullshit that be coming out of people's mouthsand the blatant egoism and self-righteousness that these people sit in.

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And she has the most calming and, but very firm and directive and
inquisitive tonality that cuts through all of that.
um I started watching, I thought I was watching the first season, it turns out I startedwatching the last season.

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um But um I'm halfway through season, so I'm all the way through the fourth season andthen I'm halfway through season three.
And I just watched three episodes today.
It is just so...
um
Ass TV.
oh
here's what I would say.

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um On the surface, know, a TV show about couples going through therapy does not soundenjoyable.
And it's not really enjoyable in the, you know, like real housewives of, you know, couplestherapy kind of way, you know, there, there are no gotcha moments and all that kind of

(54:03):
stuff.
But what I appreciate about watching the show is, um, you know, we start out the podcastwith acknowledging, you know, disability pride month and talking about how, you know,
sometimes it's important to see yourself in others.
And I really appreciate that with all the couples, most of the couples, you get to see areflection of yourself in some way, at some point in time in your own life's journey,

(54:32):
right?
um Maybe not one for one, but there are glimpses.
And through that, and through the coaching that these couples get through theirpsychoanalysts, um
there's some really amazing questions, very introspective questions that become reallypowerful tools.

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And in watching the season and a half of this, I've learned a lot um and I've recognized alot that I don't want to um demonstrate.
That, that's even like, damn, damn low key.
Because there'll there'll be, there will be times where someone is saying something andI'm just like, I feel you.

(55:19):
I feel exactly what you're saying.
Like just, and then Orna will say something that just like, should be like, is it, is itpossible that there's another way to look at it?
Is it possible that there's, um, that there is another way to interpret that experience?

(55:41):
And then in my mind, I'm like, no, ho, there ain't.
It's just this.
It is what it is.
Now we got to deal with it.
And then she'll say with other scenarios, I'm like, god damn, you right.
You right, you right.
Have you have you ever done, I'm assuming Marko Tone and maybe you have and I think I knowthe answer because of just the podcast, but have you done couples therapy before?

(56:06):
yes, not as much as you would think, but yes, we have done, yeah, but we have done.
Yeah, Cory and I did too.
Like, I made him do it before we got married.
Like, and maybe that was like, maybe like the, the, the black church in me saying like, webetter go see the pastor before we get married kind of thing.
But like, we went to a couple's therapist, a gay couple therapist or whatever.

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Cory hated that shit.
Hated it.
Yeah.
but was it, what was it that he hated about it?
Was it the actual experience?
speak for because this is going to start fights or whatever.
like me for me, I literally in life, I like just getting to the core things, figure thisshit out so we can figure it out and just move on or split or whatever it may be.

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I really genuinely like just getting to the essence of who we are.
And it's easier said than done.
And I have my own shit too.
For him, he's just not built that way.
He doesn't wanna dig.
He doesn't wanna unpack shit.
He's found a way to kind of move on the way he needs to move on and let's keep on moving,even though not realizing maybe some shit in the past is impacting the present.

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And it's hard for him.
And for him, he just felt more that it's just creating more.
Because a lot of times you gotta go through a lot of shit to finally get to the sunrise ofthe situation.
And it's the going through shit where it might feel like we're fighting more, that we'rewhatever it may be, the uncomfortableness of it all.
That's the part he just feels like, felt like maybe we're taking 10 steps back to take onestep forward, not realizing eventually you're going to take a lot more steps forward than

(57:46):
steps back.
So it was hard for him.
I was loving it, but it was hard though.
There was some shit I was like, I fucking hate this human being.
And that's the part that a lot of people aren't built for.
I'm built for that.
Like I could hate you right now.
Maybe in the future, but at least I don't know why we need to do that.
He's just not built like that So like we went God we went we went for a little bit andthen he's just like I can't he's like I just can't this is This is too much for me.

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And so we stopped going I wish we kind of would have kept and he did better and I didbetter after that too There's like nuggets that we took from that that kind of has helped
us honestly to this day quite frankly But I feel like for him specifically.
There's just stuff even to this day
of just past relationships that have just like damaged him that he just refuses to kind ofunpack.
And that's my perception.

(58:36):
Maybe he doesn't have that perception.
He's probably listening like, bitch, why you saying this on the podcast?
So I'm going to shut up now.
And rightfully, in my mind too, though, there's the stuff like that I was unpacking that Iwas just like, OK, I do do that.
OK, let me do better on that.
You know, so anyway.
One of things that I really appreciate about the way that this show is constructed and whothey have as um the person to work with, Orna, is her approach and the discipline that

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she's in, it's psychoanalyst.
It's not a behavioral therapist, which is what most people go to, which is what are thebehaviors that you are demonstrating?
How do we course correct or resolve these behaviors in order to da da da da da?
And this is a very different, much more, um, there is a strong intellectual component toher therapeutic style.

(59:30):
Um, that's not necessarily based in behavior, but it is in correlation.
It's a correlation to what has happened in your past that has
form the way that you show up and interpret things and therefore the way that youcommunicate and act and therefore act out and let's unpack that.
And there is a, there is a, there is a intellectual component that still has emotionalties to it because you're talking about things that are deeply, you know, you're talking

(01:00:00):
about cheating, you're talking about polyamory, you're talking about, you know, like,blatant disrespect and all these other kinds of, of things that, that generates some kind
of an emotional response because it's high stakes.
have a relationship that you care for deeply.
There's a certain level of commitment and a certain level of trust and, um, and otherthings like
betrayal and whatnot kind of come in and erode some of that.

(01:00:22):
And there's a desire for a lot of these couples to repair that or get clarity on how dothey move forward.
And I just, I never thought of it that way.
You know, I've always heard of, you know, you hear of like, especially like, you know,through like television and sitcoms and whatnot, you hear of like people going to like
their analyst, right?
Um, and I always equated

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okay, analyst is just another word for, you know, a behavioral therapist, but they'redifferent.
They're very different disciplines, very different approaches.
And so I love that I'm going through a season where even the therapist questions, um, withone couple, am I, don't know if I can help you.

(01:01:05):
And that was so beautiful to see.
Hmm.
of a show that's rooted in reality and having someone say, I'm not just going to do thisbecause it's a paycheck.
I might not be the one because I can't reach you.
And if I can't reach you or if I can't understand you um and where you're coming from andyou are resistant to opening yourself up to this process, then what is we doing?

(01:01:33):
And that
Yeah.
I'm invested to say the least.
I knew you would.
the second you said you were gonna watch it, because I think you first mentioned it inSeattle, I was like, girl, you about to get hooked.
I'm letting you know.
And then when you finally put it on your stories, I was like, you hooked, ain't you?
originally told me on Thanksgiving two years ago when we came, when we came to see you andwe were just talking, shooting a shit or whatever.

(01:02:00):
And you say, okay, I'm gonna add this to my list of stuff.
And you know, one thing y'all know about me is I'm a man of my word.
So I'm gonna add it to my list.
I'm gonna get around to it.
So I got around to a baby.
I kicked my legs up.
I crossed my legs, put my blanket on.
I closed the door and I just.
Bitch, we in therapy together.

(01:02:24):
It's so true.
It's so true.
So yeah, come here.
So if you're looking for something to watch, that's a good one to watch if you haven'twatched it.
Let us know if you watched it.
I haven't watched this latest season because I was like, I know once I get in there, I'mgoing to be sitting there for eight hours.
So I'll be sitting there for eight hours.
And there ain't no ifs and buts about it.
So.
oh

(01:02:46):
and low key it makes it makes your life feel really small.
There are some people out there that are struggling.
I'm like how are y'all still together?
Maybe I should take it as a compliment that Tony and I didn't get picked, because maybeour problems just weren't that big.
Maybe, like, we weren't good for television, because, yeah, that's the thing.

(01:03:11):
It's true, it's true.
Yeah, I have so many questions even just like the background.
I know we're getting a little long here, convening on this topic, but I'm just curious,just like, how did you even convince Tony to go along with it?
we were, without getting too deep into it, we were, we were having a, we were in a roughtime at the, the, at our relationship.

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And I was like, we're either going to do this on national television or we're going to dothis with like an actual therapist.
But one way or another, we need to see it.
We need to see a therapist.
And here's like a really great opportunity.
And I think that it would like be really helpful for us.
And he, yeah, he was like, okay, fine.

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Like, that's fine.
If it happens, it'll happen.
And like I said, we went through a couple of the sessions, we talked about everything andwe kept getting moved to the next phase.
So I was like, shit, we can really talk about all our problems on air.
uh
don't know if I could do it on air.
I don't know if I would be able to be as honest as I would want to be.

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Like it's already hard to be that honest in therapy.
And then to know to be that honest, at least for me, like if I'm paying, A, to be intherapy.
bitch, I wanna get better, I wanna get well.
And so I want to be as transparent and honest as I can.
And it's already hard to do that with yourself, then to have your partner, your husband,your spouse with you, that's a whole nother level.

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To lure your therapist, that's a whole nother level.
And then to have the TV and just denote in the back of my brain, I wanna say that, but Ithink I would almost edit myself a little.
Like I might be 98 % there, I think I wouldn't be able to be a full 100 % quite frankly.
just because I wouldn't want the perception of hurting my human either on national TV.

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It was a very interesting thing for us because we had already been doing it on thepodcast.
At that time, we were doing a podcast where we were talking about relationship issues andour relationship to them.
So we were like, this is shit that we've been going through and we've been very candid.
If y'all listen to past iterations of the podcast, there are many episodes where Tony andI were 100 % arguing with one another and the record was going on.

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the record was going on.
So we were like, we've already done a version of this and we don't have an adult in theroom to actually like gather us and like help us do something.
Yeah.
So maybe like, maybe this will help.
Maybe I think at the time we were like, maybe this will help the podcast.

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Like it'll give us like more tools to be able to do it.
um But yeah.
Is there like, guess I don't listen to therapy podcast.
Is there one that's like the show that it's just seasons of it on the podcast?
If not, that's a good idea.
Say Minoritea Report and Relationship Pod helped you out with that idea.
Give us 10%.

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on the surface doing something like this, I probably would not be as inclined to have likeall my shit out in the streets, right?
I mean, y'all know, like I'll talk about a lot of stuff, but there are certain things thatI just, I don't talk about on the podcast.
You know, because I do believe in keeping something sacred, you know?

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But having watched this season, and if I was in a relationship that was in crisis,
And I had the opportunity to work specifically with Orna because one of the benefits thatyou get as a viewer is you get to see what this person's process is.
And I love the fact that she's, um can cut through, she can recognize and cut through theBS that the people are giving.

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She has a really great way of,
You can tell that she's listening because she's always uh paraphrasing, saying back topeople, what I heard you say was, or what he's trying to say is X, Y, Z, and putting words
to cut through the feeling.
And...

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while they don't, you know, they show the process and you get to see some results.
I mean, but it's always a journey.
So it's not like, okay, everybody's cured by the time they go through this process, da dada da da.
You know, therapy is a journey.
Relationships is a journey.
Da da da da da.
But I would be more inclined if I had a relationship that was in crisis, I would be moreinclined to do this if I had the opportunity to do it in a format like that, because it is

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kind of a crap shoot.
you know, when you just out here in these streets and you're looking for a therapist andyou're like, you know, I gotta find somebody and you gotta find somebody that you jive
with and there's not like a sizzle reel of therapy therapists out there, which maybe thereshould be, you know, like, that demonstrates their approach so that you get a sense before

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you book an appointment, wait for that appointment, you get there and then you find outyou'd spill all this.
pay your money for this, you know, and you spill your guts out on the thing and, you know,they look at you like Barney Rubble, like it doesn't work.
So if I was in crisis and I had the opportunity to work with that particularpsychoanalyst, I would jump at the opportunity because

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Well, I guess you're not in crisis though.
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's, it's, I, God.
I knew, I knew you would love that show.
Cause like you and I are similar in that regard.
Cause we like the, the brainiac part of it.
And it's just different than a lot of the other therapy shows that have been out there.
So I knew you would love it.

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uh
that is associated with it as well.
And that was, think what drew me to it was that like we all as part of the reason why wecreated the podcast anyways, is that like we all are going through this shit.
We just all aren't talking about it.
So like, let's just like get on the show.
Let's like talk about it.
Let's have a way to figure our way through it so that hopefully it encourages other peopleto be like, Hey, I want you to watch this episode of this show.

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and I want to have a conversation with it, do you mind?
And then be like, I wanted you to watch this because I'm feeling this way.
And I just needed you to know this, like, how can we work our way through it?
Again, that might be me Pollyanna-ing the situation, but like, just, think about thosethings.
And even if you help just one person with it, then like, maybe it works.

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Yeah.
Damn.
I don't know how it got us all on that side tangent.
It could be we were going to do an S.E.O.T.E.S.
but I think we're going to save that for another day here.
But before we get out of here, I know you guys did New York Pride.
I didn't go out there this year.
I was like, a bitch is tired this year.
I'm staying my ass right here in Philadelphia.
How was Philly?
How was Philly Pride?
How was New York Pride?

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Your guess is as good as mine because we didn't go.
We didn't do anything.
No.
Yeah.
No, I mean, we all so we all went to and even met up with you in World Pride in DC.
um And I think we all like got back to the house that we were sitting at and we were like.

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I think we're a little not in the mood to celebrate Pride the way that we used to.
It's just not something that we're made for anymore.
And so we knew Pride was coming around.
We wanted to celebrate a little bit.
then our friend Eduardo, shout out to Eduardo, we bullied him on the podcast to hosting usat his apartment.

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And that's essentially what we did.
So we all went over there.
We had drinks.
We...
played a game, we laughed, we listened to music, we had a good time.
DeJuan left us and then Tony left us, of course, because y'all know that Tony's bedtime islike 730.
um And then Steve, Eduardo and I went out locally, we went out in Queens to some, we wentto Icon.

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um And I went home at like,
Bar.
That bar is like, you can just catch your life there.
It is so...
It's a touty bar, but it's kind of everything at the same time.
It's very hip.
be going there and you be like, ooh, I'm living my best life.
And sometimes you be going there, you be like, where the hell did all these people comefrom?

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It is such a weird like Bermuda triangle of communities and I love it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Toledo, Ohio.
Yes, it's so bizarre.
ah And so we went there, we had a little bit of fun, but I think I left at like 10, 10, 30ish.

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Yeah, we all Steve's house on Friday and we had a, um, it wasn't really pride related, uhit was, uh, a reminiscence of our trip to Spain and baby, I got so drunk.
Like I had to go, I had to leave and usually like, and y'all know,

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Community might not notice, because I don't be in the streets all like that.
But when I'm ready to go, I'm out.
I don't really say goodbye.
I just leave.
I'll text you when I'm home.
But also, have fun.
Enjoy.
uh

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But you know, I'm not about to be falling down and being messy and you know, da da, likethat's not my ministry.
So when I start feeling a little like, it's time to go to bed.
It's time to go to bed, time to sleep some of this alcohol off.
So Friday night was hella drunk.
Saturday didn't really do that much, just like chilled.
And honestly, I just really wasn't in like the celebratory pride spirit.

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Like I didn't want to be, I didn't want to go to any parades.
I didn't want to like, you know, I was actually supposed to go to
a little, you know, dance circuit D kind of like, you know, dance party that Sunday night.
And that's one of reasons why I didn't go.
No, no, no.
I just, when I booked that, I was just in a very different headspace.

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And after, you know, like, after like, after like all the shit that's been going on, and
Spend the time with my friends and whatnot.
I was just like, I really, I really don't need it.
I really don't need to be, you know, in a club with a whole bunch of like, you know,people that are, you know, like having the fun that they're having and the way that they

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like to do that.
Um, I was like, you know what, I'd rather go home.
And so I, I left, um, there, I left Eduardo's brunch who was so lovely to host.
And then I went over to my best friend's, Hugo Milos, who moved to a place in Astoria.
met up with them, they were all going out, um you know, to...

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and I was like, ugh, I don't think I'm making it out there, girl.
Yeah, they, I know they don't listen to the podcast.
I'm gonna tell you this.
I was trying to figure out how to get.
tea.
I was just I was trying to tell I was trying to figure out how to get out of it.
And I, I told a little white lie.
And I was like, you know, my stomach's hurting.

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I'm really don't feel like you know, being out in Brooklyn, you know, at some dance party.
And you know, I got the the bubble guts and you know, trying to go to the bathroom at themcircuit parties.
Y'all know how to.
So they were like, yeah, I get that.
But you know, maybe you'll feel a little bit better later in the night.
went nine.
was like,
So I was able to get out of it.

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Babies, they were trying to drag me out into these streets.
And I just had to say, I needed a way to get out of it that was beyond my control.
It's above me now or below me now.
it gets really tough like, know and again no judgment on anybody that likes to go outthere and do that whole like party thing but like you start thinking about priding you're

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like tens of thousands of people pushed up hot weather Hot weather like It was Sunday
this year.
I was like, damn, the big party's on a Sunday?
Yeah.
just gets tough.

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And so you like, it's not that I don't want to have that fun.
It's that I'm just like, I'm like, I like, I like, would rather, you know, Dewan was like,it's going to be brunch.
Like let's drink some champagne and like do that whole thing.
And I'm like, yes, get me home by seven o'clock so I can get a, I can have a nice buzz.

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and I can go to bed and I don't have to be out in the sun and I don't have to worry aboutany of that shit.
Like I'm good to go.
I'm good to go.
I love me a good party.
I love me a little dance gig.
I love to shake my little tits, you know, for Jesus and rattle my little bones in whateverway that I do, my special kind of way.
But you know what, like, I was just like, you know, I, there were two things going on forme.

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One, it was, you know, what I shared earlier.
The other thing was like,
There is just a lot of shit going on.
The world is batshit crazy and New York is a target.
like, so low key, I'm like, I'm literally processing like, okay, I don't really want to benear any parades.
I don't want to be, there were, there were people that ended up getting shot in front ofStonewall.

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in front of Stonewall, yes!
yeah.
over the weekend.
So it was just like, you know, like while that wasn't necessarily the driving force, causeyou know, I'm, I can take care of myself if you know, shit goes down, you know, then, you
know, we will take care of it.
But I ain't trying to put myself in dangerous way.
So I said, you know what?
I'm not really, I'm in a different head space than when I was when I booked these tickets.

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And I really don't want to be around a whole bunch of people right now.
So let me just.
fake my little IBS and go home and watch couples therapy.
like, got some couples therapy to watch.
Yeah, no, like I get it.
I'm sorry, and if y'all want a quick cocktail that'll get you nice and drunk real quick,while we were in Spain, we were drinking this cocktail called Tinto de Verano, and it's

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essentially red wine and this lemon soda.
And you mix the two and like.
You probably do like one third lemon soda and two thirds like red wine it had It didn'thelp that we had to beat those which were tequila shots with oranges and cinnamon as your

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chaser, which was delicious but
we do pineapple after tequila shots and it's the best thing on planet earth.
Best thing.
So I'm gonna try orange and cinnamon now, okay.
and you sprinkle cinnamon on top of it.
You take your shot and then you bite into the orange and cinnamon.
It's delicious.
But that said that Tinto de Verano had all of us.

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All of us were twisted.
All of us.
We was like, I need it.
didn't.
were supposed to watch the new Noah's Ark movie that is out on Paramount or whatever andwe got so hammered the topic of turning the TV on never even came up.

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Jawan, I didn't wake up until 4.30 that Saturday.
Oh, okay.
I was up at six.
but you know what, but you, but you guys went out though.
You guys also went out.
No, we didn't, not that night.
No, that was that Friday night.
That night we didn't go out.
and Eduardo who went out.

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That's right.
Okay.
That's right.
I literally did, I didn't get home until three o'clock in the morning.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Because we stayed over and talked at Steve's all night and then we ended up going home.
So I didn't go to bed.
a minute.
So that's why you didn't do no shit for pride, because bitch, you just got home.

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And I was only there until 1030.
I was only there until 1030.
Like 1030 maybe 11 o'clock at the latest and I was like nah.
said, I didn't feel like doing anything.
No ho, you were still asleep.
That's why you ain't doing shit for pro.
ha ha ha
was like, no, I'm good.
I was like, if I go out and do shit for pride, catch me, I'm Rip Van Winkle in this shit.
I'm out forever.
Forever.

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oh
out there for if you enjoyed your pride, you know, let us know what you did for pride.
And obviously, you know, I feel like this year is just like flown by, so I can't believethat we're already in July.
But but hopefully you guys were safe and sound and out there.
Shout out to Ed, Ed, Roger and Steven.
Like I ran into them randomly in New York when I was there for the the.

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Queer days.
the queer, what's the name of this club?
Wish You Were Queer premiered in New York.
And I was hanging out with them and they went to grab food.
So I went to Social Atlas Club and who did I see?
Eduardo.
Just sitting there, I'm like, hey girl.
And that was actually after I texted you Marko, you're like, no, I'm into Hamptons,darling.

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I'm into Hamptons.
Literally I had texted you and like 15 minutes later ran into Eduardo.
It was crazy.
and I was driving because I was gonna be like, oh, Eduardo and Steve might be out so youshould text him but I was like driving and then my white ass husband, my white ass husband
angle, he stopped looking at your phone and I was like, okay, fine.
Like whatever, it's fine.

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But.
oh
yeah.
in the south of France at that time.
Yeah.
Atlas Social Club.
Right.
Okay.
was like, oh, the Hamptons, that's cute.
I was in the South of France.
I was in the south of France.
In a different head space.

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MWAH!
And on that note...
else in your heart survives.
Oh Lord, get me.
Marko, we appreciate you filling in for Henny Boo.
I know this community's like, y'all just gabbing, gabbing.

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Now, hey, we had to catch up, we had to catch up.
But again, remind them where to find the podcast, days it comes out, where you're at onsocials and all that good stuff.
Yeah, Relationship is out every Wednesday everywhere you listen to podcasts.
So just search for it on your favorite podcast platform and then you can hop on Instagram.
We are at pod relationship on Facebook and Instagram.

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You can check us out there and all of our content there.
uh So yeah, shout out to my co-host Steve.
Hey Steve, that's what we should do.
We should get Steve to fill in one of these days too.
So communicate, see Steve and we get him, get him booed up.
Get him, da da da da, booed up.

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But anything else on your hearts and minds before we get out of here?
We love y'all.
Just keep listening and subscribe.
Please, please do, please do.
And then let's sit here.
Next week we have a couple additional special guests because everybody be in Europe, buttcorral.
So it'll be a good episode, so looking forward to that.
And until then, wash your hands, your legs, and your ass, and we'll see you then, bye.

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Bye everybody.
Bye.