June 23, 2025 • 45 mins
Michelle Perkins discusses the intersection of Human Design and business with her guest, Mel McSherry, who emphasizes the importance of understanding one's unique human traits and how to use them for improved profitability. The conversation highlights how many individuals overlook their personal strengths while focusing solely on their motivations. They explore the significance of mental and emotional well-being in achieving financial success, arguing that true profitability stems from self-awareness and alignment with one's inherent qualities.
Mel reflects on their journey from traditional business practices to a more holistic approach that incorporates Human Design principles. This shift has allowed Mel to guide clients in recognizing their unique profitability points without coercion. The episode underscores the necessity of pausing for self-evaluation and understanding one's desires, which can lead to greater clarity and fulfillment in both personal and professional realms. This conversation is important as it offers insights into how self-awareness can transform one's approach to work and financial success, ultimately fostering a more sustainable and joyful business experience.
00:05 - Evaluating your unique profitability methods
09:47 - Mental and emotional profitability
26:15 - Self-awareness through human design
32:30 - Understanding your desires
40:00 - Clarity in decision-making
How does Human Design contribute to understanding profitability in business and personal life? Human Design helps individuals identify their unique profitability points by focusing on mental and emotional well-being first, which in turn leads to financial success, making the process feel more fluid and less of a struggle.
Self-awareness is crucial in Human Design as it allows individuals to recognize their foundational traits and how they can utilize this understanding to make better decisions and improve their personal and professional lives.
Key Takeaways:
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Mel reflects on their journey from traditional business practices to a more holistic approach that incorporates Human Design principles. This shift has allowed Mel to guide clients in recognizing their unique profitability points without coercion. The episode underscores the necessity of pausing for self-evaluation and understanding one's desires, which can lead to greater clarity and fulfillment in both personal and professional realms. This conversation is important as it offers insights into how self-awareness can transform one's approach to work and financial success, ultimately fostering a more sustainable and joyful business experience.
00:05 - Evaluating your unique profitability methods
09:47 - Mental and emotional profitability
26:15 - Self-awareness through human design
32:30 - Understanding your desires
40:00 - Clarity in decision-making
How does Human Design contribute to understanding profitability in business and personal life? Human Design helps individuals identify their unique profitability points by focusing on mental and emotional well-being first, which in turn leads to financial success, making the process feel more fluid and less of a struggle.
Self-awareness is crucial in Human Design as it allows individuals to recognize their foundational traits and how they can utilize this understanding to make better decisions and improve their personal and professional lives.
Key Takeaways:
- Profitability is Multifaceted: True profitability encompasses mental, emotional, and financial aspects.
- - Self-Reflection is Essential: Regularly pausing to evaluate your goals and desires can lead to greater clarity and fulfillment.
- - Human Design as a Tool: Understanding your Human Design can provide insights into your strengths and areas for growth.
- - Empowerment Through Awareness: Recognizing your unique design empowers you to make decisions that align with your true self.
- - The Universe Supports You: Trust that opportunities meant for you will come, but prioritizing them is your responsibility.
For more tools and conversations about money mindset, practical money tips, confidence, and financial empowerment… Subscribe to the Money & You Podcast:
Apple Podcasts Please rate and review & share the podcast with your friends and family members who want to better understand money, and feel more confident and in control of their financial lives. It's sooo important to us!!
Join the Limit Free Life Community Blog: https://limitfreelife.com/newsletter
Learn more about Michelle Perkins: https://limitfreelife.com
LinkedIn: Michelle on LinkedIn
Instagram: @livealimitfreelife
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@michelleperkins-limitfreel2446
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And it's so funny when you don't take the time
to really evaluate your how, you kind of just keep
going with your why. You forget the profitability points inside
of your uniqueness. And that's what this quite well. Her
asking me that started me on that journey of realizing
that from day one, I always took into account my
time and energy management. I would, and I still to
(00:28):
this day, wake up every morning and go, Okay, how
did I sleep, how's my energy? What does my day
look like today? How much time do I have to
devote to my business? And then looking at my to
do list, I match the to dos that honor the
time and energy that I have in that day.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hey there, and welcome to Money and You.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm Michelle Perkins, your host.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My search for more fulfilling work led me to career
in business coaching, where I stumbled upon a game changing discovery.
Money issues often start with our mindset and habits.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We see our.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Relationship with money is the key to overcoming those frustrating
financial obstacles. As an entrepreneur, coach, and problem solver, I'm
passionate about helping you create a great relationship with money,
because turns out that's the foundation for a limit free life.
Each week on Money in You, I speak with amazing
guests about all things money, mindset, practical tips, and everything
(01:23):
in between.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We're here to give you new insights.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Education, and empowerment, so money can be one of your
favorite relationships.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
So join us for some lively.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Conversations and let's transform your financial life together. Hello, Hello,
and welcome to the Money and New Show. Another wonderful
episode we have in store for you today, and we
have a little different look where we're doing some new
things with the studio and so today it looks a
(01:53):
little different, I know, but it's going to be the
same amazing show that we always have, still produced by
ubngo dot Com. And so I am going to introduce
you to somebody who's going to talk about something that
we've never talked about on this show. So I'm super
excited about that, and that is human design and how
that factors into your your business, your career, your money
(02:15):
life and everything else. So let me introduce you to
today's guest. We have with us today, international business and
life guide Mel McSherry, who helps inspired yet overwhelmed entrepreneurs
honor their lives and become the architects of their own success.
Mel uses their spiritual gifts, as well as their fifteen
(02:36):
plus years of business building experience to slash entrepreneurs stress
and bring their success to life. Using both human design
in partnership with traditional business development tools. Mel coaches others
on how they can connect to what they want, understand
how they are designed to create what they want, and
implement their strengths and strategies so every day they're profitable
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meant emotionally and financially. As an entrepreneur, since twenty ten,
Mel has launched two successful businesses, become a two time
published author, spoken almost two hundred times all over the
US and overseas, and created a true life by My Design,
all while being the primary caregiver to their teenager son
who was autistic.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Mel Welcome, Thank you, Michelle. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I'm so excited that you are here.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And so we had such a good conversation earlier and
I was just so fitted to bring you in and
have you share some of your knowledge with our audience.
So can you just give us because we haven't ever
talked about human design. It's all coming back to me
now that I had wanted to engage you a little
(03:45):
on this for myself, and then of course I've got
lifey and that didn't happen yet, but it will. Yeah,
So anyway, can you just give us a little well,
first of all, a little background on how you even
got to the place that you're doing what you do,
and have a summary of what human design is about.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Absolutely so. My journey, which I'm sure is like many others,
has been filled with many plot twists. Did not originally
start as an entrepreneur to be in the coaching in
the business coaching industry, let alone using utilizing spiritual tools.
I actually started in the fitness industry. I was a
certified personal trainer, and I did in home trainings, outdoor
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boot camps, all the whole nine yards. And when my
son was born in twenty eleven, it was just too
difficult to travel to my client's houses to be, you know,
everywhere I needed to be. I was married at the time,
but his father was on the road seventy five percent
of the year, So it was just one of those
opportunities where I really needed to take a pause and
(04:48):
reevaluate what I wanted. And that question is one of
my favorites that I pose often to myself into my
clients is what do I want? Because we typically don't
take the time to really sit with that question. We
keep pushing, we keep taking action, we keep moving forward, YadA, YadA, YadA.
And I'm a huge believer in the pause and taking
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that step to the side and really reevaluated. And so
that actually came in the form of putting my business
completely on holds doing some online medical billing for my
father's company. I was a VA for a couple of
IT companies, and though that wasn't necessarily part of the
big picture, I like to keep that part of my
story out loud because we forget that sometimes we need
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to make decisions, especially when we need to alleviate some
sort of financial stress, that may not necessarily be aligned
with a big picture, but it's going to fill that bucket.
So your mental and emotional health can, you know, recover
or catch up. And that's exactly what I needed as
a new mom. So fast forward to twenty thirteen. I
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wanted to get back into the fitness industry and realized
that I could move it to a virtual platform by
partnering with a network marketing company called beach body, and
it was one of those decisions where I really just
wanted to be a coach. I didn't want to be
the business builder. I didn't want to hay girl message anybody.
I just wanted to be able to support people in
their health uh and their health goals. And with that
(06:19):
pure intention, I got successful quote unquote rather quickly. I
was very consistent in my sales, and that caught the
attention of my leader at the time, who was like, look,
you're this married, single mom, as I coined myself, and
yet you are consistent in your sales, Like what are
you doing differently? And it's so funny, like when you
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don't take the time to really evaluate your how, you
kind of just keep going with your why, you forget
the profitability points inside of your uniqueness. And that's what
this quite well her asking me that started me on
that journey of realizing that from day one I always
took into account my time and energy management. I would,
(07:00):
and I still to this day, wake up every morning
and go, Okay, how did I sleep, how's my energy?
What does my day look like today? How much time
do I have to devote to my business? And then
looking at my to do list. I match the TODs
that honor the time and energy that I have in
that day, and so that already gave me a lot
of permission to play and how I got things done
(07:23):
to be okay with Oh yeah, I said I was
gonna do this first thing today. Well just kidding, I'm
gonna do number five right, But it's still all got
done because it was honoring the time and energy that
I had, and so by creating kind of a quick
tutorial about that, she put it in her new coach
boot camp, the team exploded PA's Forty year later, we're
in the top one percent of the company. I'm getting
(07:45):
people who just want to be on a team with me,
plus people in Beach Body wanting me to do team
calls and trainings with their teams, friends and other networking
marketing companies that wanted me to do team calls and
trainings for them. It's now twenty fifteen. I've got one
foot in this now business coaching world had a foot
fitness and in the middle of my divorce, I can't
(08:06):
do the splits very well. So I was like, you
know what, if there's a time to have another major
plot twist. It's now and through Beach Body, I was
introduced to John C. Maxwell, who was one of the
leading coaches in the industry, have been for there for decades,
had a year long internship with him and his international
leadership team, got my coaching certification through them. Left Beach Body,
(08:28):
started my coaching business in coaching in the business industry,
and even that has developed. I started very traditional. I
was very systematic. I had a lot of frameworks, I
had a lot of foundations. I had a lot of
you know, boundaries, so to speak. And then in twenty twenty,
I was at this very interesting crossroads my business and
(08:52):
one that I've never heard of people really talk about.
Where on paper, I was crushing it, making six figures,
as you mentioned, I've been paid to travel. I was
doing all these amazing things. Internally, I had never felt
more inauthentic or disconnected to my business in my entire life.
And I had no idea why, like none whatsoever. I
was doing all the things, I was getting all of
(09:13):
the successes, and the whole time like is this really? It?
Is this what success feels like? And so I went
on a spiritual treat, my first spiritual treat in twenty
twenty unbeknownst to me two weeks before Lockdown here in Chicago,
and we were in Lockdown for a while and one
of the participants there was talking about human design, and
(09:36):
so I went up, I looked at my chart, read
my chart and just stopped. It was just everything that
I didn't have the words for, Like it was the
why behind my how. But the reason why I wasn't
advocating for is because I didn't know if it was
actually true. Like we have a lot of these one
liners like oh, it's just outside your comfort zone or
(09:57):
you just need to push past this, when really a
lot of the things that I was putting into practice
in my business though again Friday, actually I was getting
very much rewarded for was slowly but surely burning me
out beyond belief. Wow. And so it was that really
beautiful validation and confirmation for myself to start rebuilding that
(10:22):
trust that I don't think we're taught initially to have
in ourselves in our businesses. We're taught to seek the expert,
to copy and paste, to find the person who did
it and just do what they did. And though that
is it's advice, it's not exactly the Bible, like it's
it's not it's not really how you can create what
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you want because you have a true profitability inside of
your own uniqueness, and so it's finding how to customize it,
and a lot of us don't know how to do that,
and that's what human design shows you. So human design
is a combination of astrology, I Chin kabbalah chuck in
quantum physics. So it's that beautiful marriage between science and
(11:05):
quote nquote spirituality, which we're one in the same way
back in the day and now have gotten separated. And
what it shows you is it's basically your energetic blueprint.
So how much energy you have, how much of it
is natural, how much of it comes from others? What
are your best processes for making decisions, what your best
strategies when it comes to implementing those decisions. It literally
(11:28):
gives you every single foundational piece of information of the
why behind your how, and it allows you to really
build that confidence and trust in your process because it's
your operations manual. It's everything that you need to know
for yourself that you can start implementing and customizing what
everybody else says around you. So to use that now
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as my main tool to guide my clients. It's such
a beautiful way to not only for me consistently connect
with myself because I've been practiced ever since twenty twenty,
it's also helped me show others just the profitability of
who they are, without any coersion, without a maniptulation. Just this,
(12:14):
here's you. Here's how brilliant you are. And while you
are brilliant in these ways, now let's take that confidence
and start customizing all of those processes that you have
in place to really ensuring that you are staying profitable mentally, emotionally,
and financially.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
H Oh, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And when you say staying profitable in those areas, what
are you?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
How would you describe that a little further?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I describe it as the true way you can create
sustainability as an entrepreneur or just as a human in general.
We a lot of times we get caught up in
those financial goals. First, we make those the main priorities
and the main focus, and we just assume the mental
and emotional it's just going to magically follow. And to me,
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I flip that hierarchy. Whereas when you make mental and
emotional profitability the first two, and the financial that follows.
You find those successful points every day. You're not waiting
until you hit six figures, You're not waiting till you
hit X amount of money. It's those Oh I did
this today. I feel like it's finding those glimmers that
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keep you motivated because as entrepreneurs, we're the only ones
that are in charge of ourselves. And even for those
who are entrepreneurs, those who are leaders, those even inside
of the corporate world, you know, you are still your
own individual. You need to figure out what makes you
tick and what makes you excited and sustainable. And that's
what human design does, is it shows you those profitability
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points every day, so you lean into those further. So
when again, when that financial follows, it's just duh, It's
just it's so fluid that you don't even it seems
it seems less of a struggle and just more of
being present in the now.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And you know, you brought up such an important point
because you can have the financial peace working for you,
others are not. If those you know, if you're emotionally
and physically and everything else, if you're feeling just drained,
you know, I would imagine that's sort of the opposite
of being profitable in those areas. Yeah, it just doesn't work.
(14:28):
I mean you can, you can force it for a while,
but this is where people eventually hit a wall and
they're just unhappy and.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It affects everything.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's just, you know, things with money affect all the
rest of your life, your relationships to Yeah, so you
can't just I mean, as you said too, there are
times in life when you may have to do things
that are not your first choice, you know, or take
a job or whatever it is to get by for
a period. And that's not only fine, it's it's you
(15:00):
know kind of it's really important, it's valuable. It's yeah,
so you know, we have to flow with with life.
But but in the bigger scheme of things, if you
do have a bigger vision and you're going for the
bigger things, in bigger successes in your life, it can't.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Be just about money. Yeah, you know exactly, because the
end money is beautiful, like I heck yeah, like we
all deserve it, we are worthy of it. It is
a gorgeous, gorgeous thing. But where I again, where I
think we just go too far is we do make it.
There's that number one focus. And when you get so
hyper fixated on something like that, you start to manipulate
(15:43):
how you make, like what you say yes to. You
stop saying yes to things that could fill you up
in other areas because it's not a paid event or
it's not something you can getquote unquote paid from, And
those are just as profitable as the ones you get
actual money from, because that's what creates that sustainability. So
it is really understanding and honoring all three of those
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buckets and why all three of them are so important,
because one just spills into the other, which just spills
into the other. And that's why I kind of like
to put financial lass because if you've got those other
two just flown over, then honestly that it's just that
feeling of like, oh yeah, then it just fills up
kind of quot quoe on its own. It has that
feeling to it because you are just so you are
(16:29):
so trusting of the process that it doesn't become this
this thing that you have to consistently figure out. You
can just be in the moment.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, And it helps you to stay in the energetic
space of having faith and knowing that the things that
you want, you know, will come to fruition. I mean
there's a lot of things behind the beliefs you have
that fuel the.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Other things too.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So I know, if your energy is drained, it's hard
to it's hard to be optimistic about things.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's hard to sometimes make the right choices.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You make choices out of fear or doubt instead of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So yeah, it's it.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
That's and I love what you're saying about the human
design aspect because I do know a lot of people
who you know, of course, everybody's out there telling us
the formula that we should right automatically going to work for.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Us sixty k sixty seconds and five steps.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah and yeah, and usually the five steps are good,
but also usually how that particular person figured it out
for hemorogtical and doesn't necessarily work for you. And I
do see copying what other people are doing. I you know,
I tried to do it myself initially, because that's how
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you start as an entrepreneur.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You find other successful people who are doing what you
do to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, but I do think that there it doesn't necessary
work for.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You because it worked for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I mean, there are pieces in parts you can pull out,
but absolutely, you know, can you can you give us
an example, maybe a little case study of how somebody
used the human design or maybe for how you used it,
but uh to sort of you know, tweak what they're
doing and make it a difference in it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
One of my favorite case days I've talked about is
a client of mine I've been working with now for
a little over two years, and when she first came
to me, she had left corporate and HR she'd been
HR for over a decade and decided to start her
own business, coaching business. And first, you know, it's kind
of getting over that corporate I like to call corporate
(18:45):
PTSD hump because there is that shock of oh this
I just thought I could just cough, no, okay, sweet
like that. There's a lot of things that happened to
a person when they when they decided to leave corporate
and the solopreneur and one of the things that she
realized that she had been always fighting against. So within
human design there's five main energetic types, and she's one
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that's called a manifesting generator, which are the ones that
are multi passionate that literally can do ten things that
wants beautifully and throw up when anybody says you should
niche down like that's they're like like yeah. But so
she always thought that she there was something wrong with
her because every time somebody would tell her to just
focus on one thing in this business, she'd be like,
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but I don't want to be known for that one
thing because I have this over here, and I have
this over there, and I want to I want to
do an HR training, but I want to base it
off of Sarah J. Moss at Guitar Books. Like. She
just had all these creative ideas that none of her
former mentors would give her the space to play in
because that wasn't traditional or that wasn't the way to
do things, and she was getting so frustrated. So we
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had met on LinkedIn and she initially got one of
my ninety minute Human Design readings.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And one of my.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Favorite things about those readings, those initial readings is the
way that my client's shoulders just drop and they just go, oh,
I knew it, Like that validation and confirmation. They're like,
I'm not lazy, I'm not sporadic, I'm not x y z.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No this okay.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
So that's what that makes total, total sense. And when
you get that validation, you can already see that self
trust starting to build. And so what we did first was,
once we had her initial reading is we looked at
what was the first piece that jumped out at her
that she wanted to shift, Because it's always little things, right,
Nobody works completely against their design. We all naturally work
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inside of it. We just go too far. So that
first initial reevaluation was okay, where have you gone far?
Or for her case as a managed not gone far enough.
And it was the whole trying to do the traditional
Niching down focus on one off or one person, one thing.
And when when I started showing her that the profitability
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point for her is the through line in all of it,
not the one thing, all of a sudden she was
able to play in that space, not only play, but
again play with that confidence of because this is how
I'm created, Like, yeah, of course I don't want to
do this anymore because now my energy wants to be
over here. So instead of being mad that my energy
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doesn't want to be here, I know that's part of
who I am. So I'm gonna be like cool, mastered
everything over here. Let's go over here, and there's less guilt,
there's less self sabotage because she knows she's fluid inside
of her design and the way that her business has
shifted in the last two years to something where she
it's not she didn't hate it, but she wasn't familiar
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with it. To now every single bucket, every single energy
shift she has, she goes with it, She enjoys it,
she knows how to move through it profitably. Is such
a delight because again, that's what's creating that sustainability for
yourself is when you truly understand your energetic type and
where you start and where you stop, and how others
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can truly support you and vice versa. It does just
create a whole new world, but one that you have
full say in and it's it's the coolest thing to watch.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I love that. That's so fascinating to me. And so
tell us a little about this assessment. How do you
understand your own human design? I mean sure.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So My favorite link is called my bodygraph dot com.
And the reason why I like it is because you
don't get spammed emails, They don't sell your information to
third parties. It's actually created from one of the students
of the person who brought human Design forward. And what
you need is your birth date, your birth time, and
your birth location. And what that does is it will
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give you a chart and when you look at it,
you're going to be a little confused and probably a
lot overwhelmed. But what are kind of the main beginning areas.
If you want to go down a rabbit hole? Yourself
is your type, So again that's one of five energetic types.
After that, I typically tell people with that type comes
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as strategy, and then the next part to just really
hone in on that trust is your authority, which is
where you actually make decisions inside of your body. And
what that process looks like. Because when you start honing
in even just those three things granted human design I
called the ultimate onion of personal development, there are many layers.
The person who brought it forward says it takes an
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average of seven years for you to fully envelop it,
which I love because it gives you that permission to
just be intentional with it. It's not a sixty seconds, it's
not a here, learn these five things and you're amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's your manual, but it's your manual to continue to
customize and play in because it follows you throughout every
single cycle of your life, every single layer that you
that you you know, clear off, that you bring forward,
that you build to all of those things, and it
does give you. It just gives you those boundaries and
those strategies that are meant for you specifically. So I
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would always say start off with those those three because
that does give you a little bit of that insight too.
Oh oops, I need I went too far. Oh I
actually do this instead and start shifting those those little awarenesses.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, thank you, that's great. I'll put that link in
the show notes. And yeah, I find it super fascinating.
I love assessments in career coaching. I would always have
people do strengths finders and I have a funny personality
assessment that helps you understand, you know, kind of your
ingrained not unconscious money believes and and you know, obviously
(24:51):
you're talking about one for human design.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I think it is such.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
A people always there's always a light bulb that goes
off with these assessments.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
A yeah, always, and.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You know you do need somebody to walk you through
it who understands it and has seen it, you know,
in a lot of people to you know, give it
the depth and the ability really for people to integrate
these ideas into their life. But I love what you said,
because they all there is no magic moment where all
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of a sudden you know you're doing everything according to
you know these.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I feel like that, but then you look back go,
oh no, that was ten years of work.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Great, yes it is, and they're all like that. But
they give you a starting point and you know, you
know a path you know to take, which I think
for entrepreneurs is one of the hardest things. We just
sort of throw a lot of spaghetti at the wall
for a long.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Time, absolutely, or we don't even again even that initial
question of what do I want? When people we we
think we have to state those traditional wants like oh
I want sixty years? Do you like? Why? What is why? Honestly?
And it's those little things that make such a big difference,
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and I love That's one of the things that I
tell I always want to mention when I'm on podcasts
about human design is yes, I love human design. And
also there are a lot of amazing assessments out there.
There's Aneagram, there's you know, all the personalities, there a
strengthfinder is to your point, disc I mean, there's so
many things, and how I like to look at those
at is that a lot of those take kind of
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one section of your life or one category that you
were looking for, and I like to kind of picture
it as a lot of those are like the top
of the iceberg, whereas human design is what's underneath. That's
why you got the results the way that you did,
and your human design never shifts. I know for myself,
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before I did, I think Niagram was one of my
first ones, and I did that years years years years
years ago before I did any sort of personal ble
in it, and I was a people please are like
whole nine yards and then I remember doing a lot
of personal development, getting into other things, and decided to
retake it, and all of a sudden I was a four.
But oh that's interesting. Human design doesn't change. That is
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just who you are foundationally, And when I layer that
on top of my Enneagram results and my NTFJ all
the other different results, it's just all it's just a
bunch of it's just all of the layers, and then
the human design is, oh okay, So that's why that shifted,
because I was actually reacting from this instead of receiving,
so it just gives you that deeper understanding into why
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you got those results.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, I love that, and I think you know, these
are important things to important.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Tools that you really should use.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I mean, it's think that you can just go it
alone and you know you understand yourself so well, which
we all think at various points in our life, but
find out we really don't necessarily.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
But I mean, you know, people are you.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Know, more self awareness than others, but it's so important.
These are different, different perspectives and different advantage points that
you probably haven't you know, been you don't you don't
know about yourself actually so or you know it resonates
with you when you take the assessment, but maybe it's
not just in your present awareness and it should be.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, or and it's that thing of like okay, cool,
I knew that, and then nothing else afterwards, like there,
and there are some of those moments where it's like great,
I'm glad you got that validation and there's always things
for you to shift with it. And I think that's
where a lot of these assessments, and especially with human design,
I think that's where it's it's fallen short a little bit,
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just in the fact of people getting to know it.
Like human design has been around since the seventies sixties,
just started recently getting high. I like to say instagrammable popular,
which is beautiful for me because talking about it it
comes with a little bit of familiarity. But what is
becoming I think a little bit I'm just gonna say
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dangerous for lack of a better term, is the fact
that they are making it to bite size, like they're
just oh, I'm this type, so I'm gonna make all
of my decisions off of this type. That's one of
like nine areas of your human design chart. Like, yes,
that's great that you know this about your energy. However,
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even how you utilize that information you personally, that is
located in the other areas of your chart. And again
that's one thing that I That's another thing that I
love is that it peels back the layer. So when
you find the first thing, which is what I do
with my clients is Okay, what was the first awareness
that came forward? That's the first thing you want to shift.
Let's just start doing that first, because as Brendan Bouchard
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always says, it's the little things you do every day
that make the biggest difference. And then from there when
you get to these larger decisions, where again let's go
back to your blueprint, how are the best ways for
you to to find the information, to formulize this information,
to start, you know, implementing this information. And the whole
goal is to where my clients can then go, oh, yeah, no,
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I know exactly where to turn. I know in my
library what chapter to turn to or what you know,
area to go to, and to remind myself of this,
that and the other and move on, because as humans
we all need that. Even I mean again, I've practitioner
for five years, I still have moments of oh oops,
just kid it, like I'm still human in a human
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business with human relationships, and so it's always it's gorgeous
to constantly have that reminder for myself of ah, that's right,
this is my most profitable action. That's why that feels
the way it did. Got it all right, Let's let's
let's try again.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, And I that you keep referring to the word
profitable because so much of what we might spend our
time with is not necessarily profitable.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
It's what we feel we should be doing. It's what
we feel needs to get done.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Oh the shoulds are crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Goods are crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And in our decision making, especially as entrepreneurs, get gets
clouded in the stuff that we feel we need to do,
and we lose sight of the fact that a lot
of what we do. You know, there's the eighty twenty rule,
and so much of what we're doing is actually not
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moving us forward or not what leads to more profits.
And so you know, we really do have to stop
and take those pauses, like you said, and constantly be
reevaluating and checking.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, So I want to go back just for a
minute to the question of what do you want?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Because I love that so much.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I think that's been like a really pivotal question for
my business from career. I started doing career transition way
at the beginning, and that was always the first question.
People want to leave where they're at, or they've been
forced to leave, but they mostly have been working hard
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and doing all the things that they need to do
and taking care of their families and have rarely taken
a moment to stop and ask themselves what they want.
So they are really lost usually, And so you know,
for people listening who feel lost? And I hear it
all the time. You know, I'm just talking to somebody
who's trying to figure out whether to continue with her
nonprofit or to stop it because it's a lot of
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work and it hasn't you know, it's such a valuable
you know, claiing close to her heart endeavor, but she
has other options and so you know, to know what
you want is it's a really confusing place because sometimes
we just want a lot of things and you have
to pick them to food. Sometimes we have no idea
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what we want because yeah, never bothered to really check in.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
We've been doing the shoulds.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, and even inside of that, like that question can
be so small in regards to Okay, how do I
want to feel today? Or what would make me? What
do I want to accomplish that would make me feel
successful or satisfied or peaceful or what have you? And
I think we do try to make it too big.
(33:28):
I think we try to what do I want? Okay?
I got to have the five year plan. I hated
that question anytime I got interviewed for what I don't know?
I know I want this job, Like, can we just
start there and see how I go. So it is
that of like even inside of human design helps you
even understand how to explore that question and how to
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because we our systems naturally give us that pausing point.
No matter what of the five types you are, you
have a stopping point. You have a point to where
your system is like, okay, time to celebrate, trying to reevaluate.
And it's how that shows up and how that works
as different per each type. But we have those stopping
those pausing points naturally in our cycles, and what we
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try to do is we try to push past them
because we think, oh, well, why all of a sudden,
I don't have any energy. I just got to keep
pushing or or hear me out, you've done everything that
you can do now, so let's take a breath, step
to the side and go, okay, what's working?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Now?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
What do I want? What's not working? Because we do
get caught up in routines so easily where the should
just become part of our daily lives and we don't
take the time to stop that shoulting of just like
well I should do this, okay, Well that's the first
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red flag to me. Why why should you do this?
Which you want to do instead. And the thing that
I love to deal with human design is show them
why what they want is really how they're supposed to
do it, and to prove that, prove themselves to themselves,
like especially my clients who don't want to be part
of social media, but I should be on social media
(35:16):
because that's how I get business. Well no, actually, because
in your chart, you're what's called an opportunist, which means
all of your best opportunities come from meeting people. So
therefore networking and how you network. You might have a
low energy type, so then it's virtual coffees, it's things
that honor your low energetic field. So again those pieces
(35:37):
of how you can then customize your path to success.
It's all seems to like, well, no, the shoods are
gone because I know exactly what I want. I know
exactly where to find the support that I need when
I get a little bit confused or cloudy or overwhelmed
to that, Oh here's here's me again, Hi me, how
are you. Let's let's go back to Let's go back
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to the getting.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
That's great. That is great. And as you were talking,
I was thinking, you know, it's the it's the shoulds.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
But it's also you know, kind of the self talk
that is telling us well, I have to, I have
because you know or I There are a lot of
these sort of negative messages that kind of indicate that
people feel trapped. Yeah, and I think it's really important
to understand when you feel that way, When you feel
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like I have to, I have no choice, this is
just my life, you are even more resistant to that
question of what do you want? It almost makes you
angry because like, well, if I can do what I want,
i'd be doing it.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And in human design that's called your
not self. And there's actually so one of the layers
in human design is your centers, which are located over
nine different chukras in your system, and those centers are
where you receive and where you uh uh, what's what
(37:05):
I'm looking for? How to develop your information? And when
we say not self in human design, that is typically
because we have these stories that come from these undefined
centers that aren't meant to have a voice. They're meant
to just receive energy from and then move it to
a defined center, but we tend to react from them.
(37:25):
And I know for me that was my biggest WTF
moment when I looked at my chart. Oh, that's where
that story came from. That's why that story is so loud. Okay,
that's my not self talking. Here are some questions in
human design provide some checking questions for you of am
I trying to be seen and heard? Am I trying
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to prove everybody's If I try to solve everybody's problems?
Am I trying to prove my worth? And when you
say yes, yes, and yes, you go okay, then I'm
not making decisions from the correct spaces. So let's go
to my authority, which for me, I'm an emotional which
means I have to sleep on it. I should not
make any decisions when I'm in any emotional state, whether
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high or low or anything else. That need to wait
till IM a little bit more even keeled and have
the information. But it is that like, Okay, how do
I ride this emotional wave? How do I call out
lovingly knowing that those stories are coming from places that
have no foundation and come back from a place of
foundational knowledge of myself?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I love that, And that immediately made me think the
you know, our relationship with money is so crucial to
how we make decisions, and what you're talking about would
contribute so beautifully to how.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
We make financial decisions as.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Well as absolutely. Yeah, I'm just thinking, you know, when
you were saying, I have to sleep on it, and
I can't. You know, there are so many people who
are overreactive with money, and you know, and sometimes for
some people that would work, and for other people they
would it would result in a kind of maybe misguided decision.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
So I love the.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
You know, how applicable this is to how you make
your financial decisions.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Run into anything where you can specifically, we only have
a couple of minutes left, I'm afraid, but any money
story that you can think of where this came into
play and help someone make some financial decisions.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean they like now the stories are
kind of they run the gamut, but probably if I
was going to go with one for myself, how and
I'll kind of do a case study of how I
used to make decisions before human design and how I
make decisions now. So before human design, as I mentioned earlier,
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I was very much that copy and paste student, like
just find the expert, and I found her and she
was amazing, and she was very expensive, and I thought,
if I don't hop on her now, I'm going to
miss out. I'm gonna be in the same you know,
those factors now that she was putting that on me.
But that's the story that was in my head of
I'm not going to get any further in life if
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I don't invest now, and so without sleeping on it
my because I was taught if it's a full body
hell yes, it's a hell yes. Yeah. It felt like
a full body hell yes, So I said yes, and
I ended up spending you know, roughly fifty K on
her and the last over over the two years that
I was with her, and though she was giving me
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really good foundational points again she was amazing, because I
didn't know myself, I was taking them too far. And
then I got into routine of just staying with her
because then I didn't want to disappoint her, and we
were on paper, I was doing well. So it's a
me problem. So let me just keep investing in her
and I will find what's wrong with me. Whereas now
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when I have people approach me, or when I get
excited about a profitable opportunity, whether that's me investing in side,
or even saying yes to a speaking event or even
podcasts that I've been offered to be on. I sleep
on it. I ask myself certain questions, I get some
more information, and I always remind myself and I remind
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my clients as well, that you never miss out on
anything that is meant for you. Ever. Yes, the universe
will provide you with a lot of things, but what
the universe does not do is prioritize it for yourself.
That's your job. So when you have that foundational understanding
of how you can take the time to evaluate where
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this opportunity is actually going to fall into place, then
you're not scrambling. You're not constantly jumping from here to
there to there. And again, this is me as an
emotional authority. There are other authorities that would make that
decision differently. I just want to profess that. But if
you feel that that you're listening and going, yeah, I
do need to sleep on it, then I'm giving you
full permission to just stick to that, because it is
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true when you react from an emotional state, it never
lands with it you wanted to, and then it just
becomes this perpetual cycle of well I gotta do this.
We will now, I gotta do this. And so when
it comes to financial decisions, not only does it help
you really ensure that you are making the most profitable
ones for yourself again meds mostly and financially, it's also
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giving you that pausing point to reevaluate where that priority
actually does lie and are you ready for it, because
it's okay. If you're not, it's then enough. When I
am ready, I know this opportunity is here, I know
this is the person I can talk to, brilliant, and
then you can progress from there. But it definitely it
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gives you more of that confidence of what are your
best decision making processes and when especially it is something
that is bigger. Again, it gives you that Operations manual
of you know exactly what to do to make that
profitable decision every single time, and even if it doesn't
turn out quote unquote the way that you want it to,
it is still the best decision you made with the
(43:02):
point at that information you had at that time. Now
you have new information. So let's go back to that
operations Kaniel Good, and let's put it back into the
system and now see where that takes you.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, Oh that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
And just as an add on to the sleeping on it,
it's always good to ask yourself a question before you
go to sleep about that, to try to listit and
answer sort of you know, while you're.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Sleeping in Yeah, sounboarded like talk, talk to your plant
or your dog or your partner or whomever, like, yeah,
get it out of your braid and let it. I
always say, let the glitter settle. Let it settle, is
your sleep aid. And then when you you know, whether
it's that morning or throughout the day, you will receive
that clarity and will feel like, oh there it is okay,
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now I feel now, I feel better.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, And well, well I end on that word clarity
because I think what you're talking about is helping you
to have so much more clarity around yourself blueprint your
you know your path forward, what you want and all.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Of that clarity is everything. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yeah, well, Mel, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
This was youation.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Can you tell people how to.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Connect with you?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Absolutely? Feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn melmicsherry
or on Instagram at Mel underscore McSherry. If this has
sparked some ideas and you want to save space to soundboard.
I love offering thirty minute complimentary virtual coffees with me
to do exactly that. No pressure, just space held. And
you can book one of those at Virtualcoffee with Mel
(44:36):
dot com or check out my readings at Melmickshery dot com.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Very nice.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Thank you, and again, thank you so much for joining
me today and I just loved having you on and
I'll be sure and share the show so people can
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week
And it's so funny when you don't take the time
to really evaluate your how, you kind of just keep
going with your why. You forget the profitability points inside
of your uniqueness. And that's what this quite well. Her
asking me that started me on that journey of realizing
that from day one, I always took into account my
time and energy management. I would, and I still to
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this day, wake up every morning and go, Okay, how
did I sleep, how's my energy? What does my day
look like today? How much time do I have to
devote to my business? And then looking at my to
do list, I match the to dos that honor the
time and energy that I have in that day.
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Hey there, and welcome to Money and You.
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I'm Michelle Perkins, your host.
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My search for more fulfilling work led me to career
in business coaching, where I stumbled upon a game changing discovery.
Money issues often start with our mindset and habits.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We see our.
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Relationship with money is the key to overcoming those frustrating
financial obstacles. As an entrepreneur, coach, and problem solver, I'm
passionate about helping you create a great relationship with money,
because turns out that's the foundation for a limit free life.
Each week on Money in You, I speak with amazing
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Conversations and let's transform your financial life together. Hello, Hello,
and welcome to the Money and New Show. Another wonderful
episode we have in store for you today, and we
have a little different look where we're doing some new
things with the studio and so today it looks a
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little different, I know, but it's going to be the
same amazing show that we always have, still produced by
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you to somebody who's going to talk about something that
we've never talked about on this show. So I'm super
excited about that, and that is human design and how
that factors into your your business, your career, your money
(02:15):
life and everything else. So let me introduce you to
today's guest. We have with us today, international business and
life guide Mel McSherry, who helps inspired yet overwhelmed entrepreneurs
honor their lives and become the architects of their own success.
Mel uses their spiritual gifts, as well as their fifteen
(02:36):
plus years of business building experience to slash entrepreneurs stress
and bring their success to life. Using both human design
in partnership with traditional business development tools. Mel coaches others
on how they can connect to what they want, understand
how they are designed to create what they want, and
implement their strengths and strategies so every day they're profitable
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meant emotionally and financially. As an entrepreneur, since twenty ten,
Mel has launched two successful businesses, become a two time
published author, spoken almost two hundred times all over the
US and overseas, and created a true life by My Design,
all while being the primary caregiver to their teenager son
who was autistic.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Mel Welcome, Thank you, Michelle. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I'm so excited that you are here.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And so we had such a good conversation earlier and
I was just so fitted to bring you in and
have you share some of your knowledge with our audience.
So can you just give us because we haven't ever
talked about human design. It's all coming back to me
now that I had wanted to engage you a little
(03:45):
on this for myself, and then of course I've got
lifey and that didn't happen yet, but it will. Yeah,
So anyway, can you just give us a little well,
first of all, a little background on how you even
got to the place that you're doing what you do,
and have a summary of what human design is about.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Absolutely so. My journey, which I'm sure is like many others,
has been filled with many plot twists. Did not originally
start as an entrepreneur to be in the coaching in
the business coaching industry, let alone using utilizing spiritual tools.
I actually started in the fitness industry. I was a
certified personal trainer, and I did in home trainings, outdoor
(04:25):
boot camps, all the whole nine yards. And when my
son was born in twenty eleven, it was just too
difficult to travel to my client's houses to be, you know,
everywhere I needed to be. I was married at the time,
but his father was on the road seventy five percent
of the year, So it was just one of those
opportunities where I really needed to take a pause and
(04:48):
reevaluate what I wanted. And that question is one of
my favorites that I pose often to myself into my
clients is what do I want? Because we typically don't
take the time to really sit with that question. We
keep pushing, we keep taking action, we keep moving forward, YadA, YadA, YadA.
And I'm a huge believer in the pause and taking
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that step to the side and really reevaluated. And so
that actually came in the form of putting my business
completely on holds doing some online medical billing for my
father's company. I was a VA for a couple of
IT companies, and though that wasn't necessarily part of the
big picture, I like to keep that part of my
story out loud because we forget that sometimes we need
(05:33):
to make decisions, especially when we need to alleviate some
sort of financial stress, that may not necessarily be aligned
with a big picture, but it's going to fill that bucket.
So your mental and emotional health can, you know, recover
or catch up. And that's exactly what I needed as
a new mom. So fast forward to twenty thirteen. I
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wanted to get back into the fitness industry and realized
that I could move it to a virtual platform by
partnering with a network marketing company called beach body, and
it was one of those decisions where I really just
wanted to be a coach. I didn't want to be
the business builder. I didn't want to hay girl message anybody.
I just wanted to be able to support people in
their health uh and their health goals. And with that
(06:19):
pure intention, I got successful quote unquote rather quickly. I
was very consistent in my sales, and that caught the
attention of my leader at the time, who was like, look,
you're this married, single mom, as I coined myself, and
yet you are consistent in your sales, Like what are
you doing differently? And it's so funny, like when you
(06:39):
don't take the time to really evaluate your how, you
kind of just keep going with your why, you forget
the profitability points inside of your uniqueness. And that's what
this quite well her asking me that started me on
that journey of realizing that from day one I always
took into account my time and energy management. I would,
(07:00):
and I still to this day, wake up every morning
and go, Okay, how did I sleep, how's my energy?
What does my day look like today? How much time
do I have to devote to my business? And then
looking at my to do list. I match the TODs
that honor the time and energy that I have in
that day, and so that already gave me a lot
of permission to play and how I got things done
(07:23):
to be okay with Oh yeah, I said I was
gonna do this first thing today. Well just kidding, I'm
gonna do number five right, But it's still all got
done because it was honoring the time and energy that
I had, and so by creating kind of a quick
tutorial about that, she put it in her new coach
boot camp, the team exploded PA's Forty year later, we're
in the top one percent of the company. I'm getting
(07:45):
people who just want to be on a team with me,
plus people in Beach Body wanting me to do team
calls and trainings with their teams, friends and other networking
marketing companies that wanted me to do team calls and
trainings for them. It's now twenty fifteen. I've got one
foot in this now business coaching world had a foot
fitness and in the middle of my divorce, I can't
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do the splits very well. So I was like, you
know what, if there's a time to have another major
plot twist. It's now and through Beach Body, I was
introduced to John C. Maxwell, who was one of the
leading coaches in the industry, have been for there for decades,
had a year long internship with him and his international
leadership team, got my coaching certification through them. Left Beach Body,
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started my coaching business in coaching in the business industry,
and even that has developed. I started very traditional. I
was very systematic. I had a lot of frameworks, I
had a lot of foundations. I had a lot of
you know, boundaries, so to speak. And then in twenty twenty,
I was at this very interesting crossroads my business and
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one that I've never heard of people really talk about.
Where on paper, I was crushing it, making six figures,
as you mentioned, I've been paid to travel. I was
doing all these amazing things. Internally, I had never felt
more inauthentic or disconnected to my business in my entire life.
And I had no idea why, like none whatsoever. I
was doing all the things, I was getting all of
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the successes, and the whole time like is this really? It?
Is this what success feels like? And so I went
on a spiritual treat, my first spiritual treat in twenty
twenty unbeknownst to me two weeks before Lockdown here in Chicago,
and we were in Lockdown for a while and one
of the participants there was talking about human design, and
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so I went up, I looked at my chart, read
my chart and just stopped. It was just everything that
I didn't have the words for, Like it was the
why behind my how. But the reason why I wasn't
advocating for is because I didn't know if it was
actually true. Like we have a lot of these one
liners like oh, it's just outside your comfort zone or
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you just need to push past this, when really a
lot of the things that I was putting into practice
in my business though again Friday, actually I was getting
very much rewarded for was slowly but surely burning me
out beyond belief. Wow. And so it was that really
beautiful validation and confirmation for myself to start rebuilding that
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trust that I don't think we're taught initially to have
in ourselves in our businesses. We're taught to seek the expert,
to copy and paste, to find the person who did
it and just do what they did. And though that
is it's advice, it's not exactly the Bible, like it's
it's not it's not really how you can create what
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you want because you have a true profitability inside of
your own uniqueness, and so it's finding how to customize it,
and a lot of us don't know how to do that,
and that's what human design shows you. So human design
is a combination of astrology, I Chin kabbalah chuck in
quantum physics. So it's that beautiful marriage between science and
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quote nquote spirituality, which we're one in the same way
back in the day and now have gotten separated. And
what it shows you is it's basically your energetic blueprint.
So how much energy you have, how much of it
is natural, how much of it comes from others? What
are your best processes for making decisions, what your best
strategies when it comes to implementing those decisions. It literally
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gives you every single foundational piece of information of the
why behind your how, and it allows you to really
build that confidence and trust in your process because it's
your operations manual. It's everything that you need to know
for yourself that you can start implementing and customizing what
everybody else says around you. So to use that now
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as my main tool to guide my clients. It's such
a beautiful way to not only for me consistently connect
with myself because I've been practiced ever since twenty twenty,
it's also helped me show others just the profitability of
who they are, without any coersion, without a maniptulation. Just this,
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here's you. Here's how brilliant you are. And while you
are brilliant in these ways, now let's take that confidence
and start customizing all of those processes that you have
in place to really ensuring that you are staying profitable mentally, emotionally,
and financially.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
H Oh, that's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
And when you say staying profitable in those areas, what
are you?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
How would you describe that a little further?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I describe it as the true way you can create
sustainability as an entrepreneur or just as a human in general.
We a lot of times we get caught up in
those financial goals. First, we make those the main priorities
and the main focus, and we just assume the mental
and emotional it's just going to magically follow. And to me,
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I flip that hierarchy. Whereas when you make mental and
emotional profitability the first two, and the financial that follows.
You find those successful points every day. You're not waiting
until you hit six figures, You're not waiting till you
hit X amount of money. It's those Oh I did
this today. I feel like it's finding those glimmers that
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keep you motivated because as entrepreneurs, we're the only ones
that are in charge of ourselves. And even for those
who are entrepreneurs, those who are leaders, those even inside
of the corporate world, you know, you are still your
own individual. You need to figure out what makes you
tick and what makes you excited and sustainable. And that's
what human design does, is it shows you those profitability
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points every day, so you lean into those further. So
when again, when that financial follows, it's just duh, It's
just it's so fluid that you don't even it seems
it seems less of a struggle and just more of
being present in the now.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And you know, you brought up such an important point
because you can have the financial peace working for you,
others are not. If those you know, if you're emotionally
and physically and everything else, if you're feeling just drained,
you know, I would imagine that's sort of the opposite
of being profitable in those areas. Yeah, it just doesn't work.
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I mean you can, you can force it for a while,
but this is where people eventually hit a wall and
they're just unhappy and.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It affects everything.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's just, you know, things with money affect all the
rest of your life, your relationships to Yeah, so you
can't just I mean, as you said too, there are
times in life when you may have to do things
that are not your first choice, you know, or take
a job or whatever it is to get by for
a period. And that's not only fine, it's it's you
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know kind of it's really important, it's valuable. It's yeah,
so you know, we have to flow with with life.
But but in the bigger scheme of things, if you
do have a bigger vision and you're going for the
bigger things, in bigger successes in your life, it can't.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Be just about money. Yeah, you know exactly, because the
end money is beautiful, like I heck yeah, like we
all deserve it, we are worthy of it. It is
a gorgeous, gorgeous thing. But where I again, where I
think we just go too far is we do make it.
There's that number one focus. And when you get so
hyper fixated on something like that, you start to manipulate
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how you make, like what you say yes to. You
stop saying yes to things that could fill you up
in other areas because it's not a paid event or
it's not something you can getquote unquote paid from, And
those are just as profitable as the ones you get
actual money from, because that's what creates that sustainability. So
it is really understanding and honoring all three of those
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buckets and why all three of them are so important,
because one just spills into the other, which just spills
into the other. And that's why I kind of like
to put financial lass because if you've got those other
two just flown over, then honestly that it's just that
feeling of like, oh yeah, then it just fills up
kind of quot quoe on its own. It has that
feeling to it because you are just so you are
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so trusting of the process that it doesn't become this
this thing that you have to consistently figure out. You
can just be in the moment.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, And it helps you to stay in the energetic
space of having faith and knowing that the things that
you want, you know, will come to fruition. I mean
there's a lot of things behind the beliefs you have
that fuel the.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Other things too.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So I know, if your energy is drained, it's hard
to it's hard to be optimistic about things.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
It's hard to sometimes make the right choices.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
You make choices out of fear or doubt instead of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So yeah, it's it.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
That's and I love what you're saying about the human
design aspect because I do know a lot of people
who you know, of course, everybody's out there telling us
the formula that we should right automatically going to work for.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Us sixty k sixty seconds and five steps.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah and yeah, and usually the five steps are good,
but also usually how that particular person figured it out
for hemorogtical and doesn't necessarily work for you. And I
do see copying what other people are doing. I you know,
I tried to do it myself initially, because that's how
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you start as an entrepreneur.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
You find other successful people who are doing what you
do to do it.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, but I do think that there it doesn't necessary
work for.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
You because it worked for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I mean, there are pieces in parts you can pull out,
but absolutely, you know, can you can you give us
an example, maybe a little case study of how somebody
used the human design or maybe for how you used it,
but uh to sort of you know, tweak what they're
doing and make it a difference in it.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
One of my favorite case days I've talked about is
a client of mine I've been working with now for
a little over two years, and when she first came
to me, she had left corporate and HR she'd been
HR for over a decade and decided to start her
own business, coaching business. And first, you know, it's kind
of getting over that corporate I like to call corporate
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PTSD hump because there is that shock of oh this
I just thought I could just cough, no, okay, sweet
like that. There's a lot of things that happened to
a person when they when they decided to leave corporate
and the solopreneur and one of the things that she
realized that she had been always fighting against. So within
human design there's five main energetic types, and she's one
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that's called a manifesting generator, which are the ones that
are multi passionate that literally can do ten things that
wants beautifully and throw up when anybody says you should
niche down like that's they're like like yeah. But so
she always thought that she there was something wrong with
her because every time somebody would tell her to just
focus on one thing in this business, she'd be like,
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but I don't want to be known for that one
thing because I have this over here, and I have
this over there, and I want to I want to
do an HR training, but I want to base it
off of Sarah J. Moss at Guitar Books. Like. She
just had all these creative ideas that none of her
former mentors would give her the space to play in
because that wasn't traditional or that wasn't the way to
do things, and she was getting so frustrated. So we
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had met on LinkedIn and she initially got one of
my ninety minute Human Design readings.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And one of my.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Favorite things about those readings, those initial readings is the
way that my client's shoulders just drop and they just go, oh,
I knew it, Like that validation and confirmation. They're like,
I'm not lazy, I'm not sporadic, I'm not x y z.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No this okay.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
So that's what that makes total, total sense. And when
you get that validation, you can already see that self
trust starting to build. And so what we did first was,
once we had her initial reading is we looked at
what was the first piece that jumped out at her
that she wanted to shift, Because it's always little things, right,
Nobody works completely against their design. We all naturally work
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inside of it. We just go too far. So that
first initial reevaluation was okay, where have you gone far?
Or for her case as a managed not gone far enough.
And it was the whole trying to do the traditional
Niching down focus on one off or one person, one thing.
And when when I started showing her that the profitability
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point for her is the through line in all of it,
not the one thing, all of a sudden she was
able to play in that space, not only play, but
again play with that confidence of because this is how
I'm created, Like, yeah, of course I don't want to
do this anymore because now my energy wants to be
over here. So instead of being mad that my energy
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doesn't want to be here, I know that's part of
who I am. So I'm gonna be like cool, mastered
everything over here. Let's go over here, and there's less guilt,
there's less self sabotage because she knows she's fluid inside
of her design and the way that her business has
shifted in the last two years to something where she
it's not she didn't hate it, but she wasn't familiar
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with it. To now every single bucket, every single energy
shift she has, she goes with it, She enjoys it,
she knows how to move through it profitably. Is such
a delight because again, that's what's creating that sustainability for
yourself is when you truly understand your energetic type and
where you start and where you stop, and how others
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can truly support you and vice versa. It does just
create a whole new world, but one that you have
full say in and it's it's the coolest thing to watch.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I love that. That's so fascinating to me. And so
tell us a little about this assessment. How do you
understand your own human design? I mean sure.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
So My favorite link is called my bodygraph dot com.
And the reason why I like it is because you
don't get spammed emails, They don't sell your information to
third parties. It's actually created from one of the students
of the person who brought human Design forward. And what
you need is your birth date, your birth time, and
your birth location. And what that does is it will
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give you a chart and when you look at it,
you're going to be a little confused and probably a
lot overwhelmed. But what are kind of the main beginning areas.
If you want to go down a rabbit hole? Yourself
is your type, So again that's one of five energetic types.
After that, I typically tell people with that type comes
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as strategy, and then the next part to just really
hone in on that trust is your authority, which is
where you actually make decisions inside of your body. And
what that process looks like. Because when you start honing
in even just those three things granted human design I
called the ultimate onion of personal development, there are many layers.
The person who brought it forward says it takes an
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average of seven years for you to fully envelop it,
which I love because it gives you that permission to
just be intentional with it. It's not a sixty seconds, it's
not a here, learn these five things and you're amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It is.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's your manual, but it's your manual to continue to
customize and play in because it follows you throughout every
single cycle of your life, every single layer that you
that you you know, clear off, that you bring forward,
that you build to all of those things, and it
does give you. It just gives you those boundaries and
those strategies that are meant for you specifically. So I
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would always say start off with those those three because
that does give you a little bit of that insight too.
Oh oops, I need I went too far. Oh I
actually do this instead and start shifting those those little awarenesses.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, thank you, that's great. I'll put that link in
the show notes. And yeah, I find it super fascinating.
I love assessments in career coaching. I would always have
people do strengths finders and I have a funny personality
assessment that helps you understand, you know, kind of your
ingrained not unconscious money believes and and you know, obviously
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you're talking about one for human design.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I think it is such.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
A people always there's always a light bulb that goes
off with these assessments.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
A yeah, always, and.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You know you do need somebody to walk you through
it who understands it and has seen it, you know,
in a lot of people to you know, give it
the depth and the ability really for people to integrate
these ideas into their life. But I love what you said,
because they all there is no magic moment where all
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of a sudden you know you're doing everything according to
you know these.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I feel like that, but then you look back go,
oh no, that was ten years of work.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Great, yes it is, and they're all like that. But
they give you a starting point and you know, you
know a path you know to take, which I think
for entrepreneurs is one of the hardest things. We just
sort of throw a lot of spaghetti at the wall
for a long.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Time, absolutely, or we don't even again even that initial
question of what do I want? When people we we
think we have to state those traditional wants like oh
I want sixty years? Do you like? Why? What is why? Honestly?
And it's those little things that make such a big difference,
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and I love That's one of the things that I
tell I always want to mention when I'm on podcasts
about human design is yes, I love human design. And
also there are a lot of amazing assessments out there.
There's Aneagram, there's you know, all the personalities, there a
strengthfinder is to your point, disc I mean, there's so
many things, and how I like to look at those
at is that a lot of those take kind of
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one section of your life or one category that you
were looking for, and I like to kind of picture
it as a lot of those are like the top
of the iceberg, whereas human design is what's underneath. That's
why you got the results the way that you did,
and your human design never shifts. I know for myself,
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before I did, I think Niagram was one of my
first ones, and I did that years years years years
years ago before I did any sort of personal ble
in it, and I was a people please are like
whole nine yards and then I remember doing a lot
of personal development, getting into other things, and decided to
retake it, and all of a sudden I was a four.
But oh that's interesting. Human design doesn't change. That is
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just who you are foundationally, And when I layer that
on top of my Enneagram results and my NTFJ all
the other different results, it's just all it's just a
bunch of it's just all of the layers, and then
the human design is, oh okay, So that's why that shifted,
because I was actually reacting from this instead of receiving,
so it just gives you that deeper understanding into why
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you got those results.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, I love that, and I think you know, these
are important things to important.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Tools that you really should use.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I mean, it's think that you can just go it
alone and you know you understand yourself so well, which
we all think at various points in our life, but
find out we really don't necessarily.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
But I mean, you know, people are you.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Know, more self awareness than others, but it's so important.
These are different, different perspectives and different advantage points that
you probably haven't you know, been you don't you don't
know about yourself actually so or you know it resonates
with you when you take the assessment, but maybe it's
not just in your present awareness and it should be.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, or and it's that thing of like okay, cool,
I knew that, and then nothing else afterwards, like there,
and there are some of those moments where it's like great,
I'm glad you got that validation and there's always things
for you to shift with it. And I think that's
where a lot of these assessments, and especially with human design,
I think that's where it's it's fallen short a little bit,
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just in the fact of people getting to know it.
Like human design has been around since the seventies sixties,
just started recently getting high. I like to say instagrammable popular,
which is beautiful for me because talking about it it
comes with a little bit of familiarity. But what is
becoming I think a little bit I'm just gonna say
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dangerous for lack of a better term, is the fact
that they are making it to bite size, like they're
just oh, I'm this type, so I'm gonna make all
of my decisions off of this type. That's one of
like nine areas of your human design chart. Like, yes,
that's great that you know this about your energy. However,
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even how you utilize that information you personally, that is
located in the other areas of your chart. And again
that's one thing that I That's another thing that I
love is that it peels back the layer. So when
you find the first thing, which is what I do
with my clients is Okay, what was the first awareness
that came forward? That's the first thing you want to shift.
Let's just start doing that first, because as Brendan Bouchard
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always says, it's the little things you do every day
that make the biggest difference. And then from there when
you get to these larger decisions, where again let's go
back to your blueprint, how are the best ways for
you to to find the information, to formulize this information,
to start, you know, implementing this information. And the whole
goal is to where my clients can then go, oh, yeah, no,
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I know exactly where to turn. I know in my
library what chapter to turn to or what you know,
area to go to, and to remind myself of this,
that and the other and move on, because as humans
we all need that. Even I mean again, I've practitioner
for five years, I still have moments of oh oops,
just kid it, like I'm still human in a human
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business with human relationships, and so it's always it's gorgeous
to constantly have that reminder for myself of ah, that's right,
this is my most profitable action. That's why that feels
the way it did. Got it all right, Let's let's
let's try again.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, And I that you keep referring to the word
profitable because so much of what we might spend our
time with is not necessarily profitable.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
It's what we feel we should be doing. It's what
we feel needs to get done.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Oh the shoulds are crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Goods are crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And in our decision making, especially as entrepreneurs, get gets
clouded in the stuff that we feel we need to do,
and we lose sight of the fact that a lot
of what we do. You know, there's the eighty twenty rule,
and so much of what we're doing is actually not
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moving us forward or not what leads to more profits.
And so you know, we really do have to stop
and take those pauses, like you said, and constantly be
reevaluating and checking.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, So I want to go back just for a
minute to the question of what do you want?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Because I love that so much.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I think that's been like a really pivotal question for
my business from career. I started doing career transition way
at the beginning, and that was always the first question.
People want to leave where they're at, or they've been
forced to leave, but they mostly have been working hard
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and doing all the things that they need to do
and taking care of their families and have rarely taken
a moment to stop and ask themselves what they want.
So they are really lost usually, And so you know,
for people listening who feel lost? And I hear it
all the time. You know, I'm just talking to somebody
who's trying to figure out whether to continue with her
nonprofit or to stop it because it's a lot of
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work and it hasn't you know, it's such a valuable
you know, claiing close to her heart endeavor, but she
has other options and so you know, to know what
you want is it's a really confusing place because sometimes
we just want a lot of things and you have
to pick them to food. Sometimes we have no idea
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what we want because yeah, never bothered to really check in.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
We've been doing the shoulds.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Yeah, and even inside of that, like that question can
be so small in regards to Okay, how do I
want to feel today? Or what would make me? What
do I want to accomplish that would make me feel
successful or satisfied or peaceful or what have you? And
I think we do try to make it too big.
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I think we try to what do I want? Okay?
I got to have the five year plan. I hated
that question anytime I got interviewed for what I don't know?
I know I want this job, Like, can we just
start there and see how I go. So it is
that of like even inside of human design helps you
even understand how to explore that question and how to
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because we our systems naturally give us that pausing point.
No matter what of the five types you are, you
have a stopping point. You have a point to where
your system is like, okay, time to celebrate, trying to reevaluate.
And it's how that shows up and how that works
as different per each type. But we have those stopping
those pausing points naturally in our cycles, and what we
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try to do is we try to push past them
because we think, oh, well, why all of a sudden,
I don't have any energy. I just got to keep
pushing or or hear me out, you've done everything that
you can do now, so let's take a breath, step
to the side and go, okay, what's working?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Now?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
What do I want? What's not working? Because we do
get caught up in routines so easily where the should
just become part of our daily lives and we don't
take the time to stop that shoulting of just like
well I should do this, okay, Well that's the first
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red flag to me. Why why should you do this?
Which you want to do instead. And the thing that
I love to deal with human design is show them
why what they want is really how they're supposed to
do it, and to prove that, prove themselves to themselves,
like especially my clients who don't want to be part
of social media, but I should be on social media
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because that's how I get business. Well no, actually, because
in your chart, you're what's called an opportunist, which means
all of your best opportunities come from meeting people. So
therefore networking and how you network. You might have a
low energy type, so then it's virtual coffees, it's things
that honor your low energetic field. So again those pieces
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of how you can then customize your path to success.
It's all seems to like, well, no, the shoods are
gone because I know exactly what I want. I know
exactly where to find the support that I need when
I get a little bit confused or cloudy or overwhelmed
to that, Oh here's here's me again, Hi me, how
are you. Let's let's go back to Let's go back
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to the getting.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
That's great. That is great. And as you were talking,
I was thinking, you know, it's the it's the shoulds.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
But it's also you know, kind of the self talk
that is telling us well, I have to, I have
because you know or I There are a lot of
these sort of negative messages that kind of indicate that
people feel trapped. Yeah, and I think it's really important
to understand when you feel that way, When you feel
(36:29):
like I have to, I have no choice, this is
just my life, you are even more resistant to that
question of what do you want? It almost makes you
angry because like, well, if I can do what I want,
i'd be doing it.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And in human design that's called your
not self. And there's actually so one of the layers
in human design is your centers, which are located over
nine different chukras in your system, and those centers are
where you receive and where you uh uh, what's what
(37:05):
I'm looking for? How to develop your information? And when
we say not self in human design, that is typically
because we have these stories that come from these undefined
centers that aren't meant to have a voice. They're meant
to just receive energy from and then move it to
a defined center, but we tend to react from them.
(37:25):
And I know for me that was my biggest WTF
moment when I looked at my chart. Oh, that's where
that story came from. That's why that story is so loud. Okay,
that's my not self talking. Here are some questions in
human design provide some checking questions for you of am
I trying to be seen and heard? Am I trying
(37:46):
to prove everybody's If I try to solve everybody's problems?
Am I trying to prove my worth? And when you
say yes, yes, and yes, you go okay, then I'm
not making decisions from the correct spaces. So let's go
to my authority, which for me, I'm an emotional which
means I have to sleep on it. I should not
make any decisions when I'm in any emotional state, whether
(38:07):
high or low or anything else. That need to wait
till IM a little bit more even keeled and have
the information. But it is that like, Okay, how do
I ride this emotional wave? How do I call out
lovingly knowing that those stories are coming from places that
have no foundation and come back from a place of
foundational knowledge of myself?
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I love that, And that immediately made me think the
you know, our relationship with money is so crucial to
how we make decisions, and what you're talking about would
contribute so beautifully to how.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
We make financial decisions as.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Well as absolutely. Yeah, I'm just thinking, you know, when
you were saying, I have to sleep on it, and
I can't. You know, there are so many people who
are overreactive with money, and you know, and sometimes for
some people that would work, and for other people they
would it would result in a kind of maybe misguided decision.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
So I love the.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
You know, how applicable this is to how you make
your financial decisions.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Run into anything where you can specifically, we only have
a couple of minutes left, I'm afraid, but any money
story that you can think of where this came into
play and help someone make some financial decisions.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean they like now the stories are
kind of they run the gamut, but probably if I
was going to go with one for myself, how and
I'll kind of do a case study of how I
used to make decisions before human design and how I
make decisions now. So before human design, as I mentioned earlier,
(39:45):
I was very much that copy and paste student, like
just find the expert, and I found her and she
was amazing, and she was very expensive, and I thought,
if I don't hop on her now, I'm going to
miss out. I'm gonna be in the same you know,
those factors now that she was putting that on me.
But that's the story that was in my head of
I'm not going to get any further in life if
(40:06):
I don't invest now, and so without sleeping on it
my because I was taught if it's a full body
hell yes, it's a hell yes. Yeah. It felt like
a full body hell yes, So I said yes, and
I ended up spending you know, roughly fifty K on
her and the last over over the two years that
I was with her, and though she was giving me
(40:29):
really good foundational points again she was amazing, because I
didn't know myself, I was taking them too far. And
then I got into routine of just staying with her
because then I didn't want to disappoint her, and we
were on paper, I was doing well. So it's a
me problem. So let me just keep investing in her
and I will find what's wrong with me. Whereas now
(40:52):
when I have people approach me, or when I get
excited about a profitable opportunity, whether that's me investing in side,
or even saying yes to a speaking event or even
podcasts that I've been offered to be on. I sleep
on it. I ask myself certain questions, I get some
more information, and I always remind myself and I remind
(41:16):
my clients as well, that you never miss out on
anything that is meant for you. Ever. Yes, the universe
will provide you with a lot of things, but what
the universe does not do is prioritize it for yourself.
That's your job. So when you have that foundational understanding
of how you can take the time to evaluate where
(41:36):
this opportunity is actually going to fall into place, then
you're not scrambling. You're not constantly jumping from here to
there to there. And again, this is me as an
emotional authority. There are other authorities that would make that
decision differently. I just want to profess that. But if
you feel that that you're listening and going, yeah, I
do need to sleep on it, then I'm giving you
full permission to just stick to that, because it is
(41:57):
true when you react from an emotional state, it never
lands with it you wanted to, and then it just
becomes this perpetual cycle of well I gotta do this.
We will now, I gotta do this. And so when
it comes to financial decisions, not only does it help
you really ensure that you are making the most profitable
ones for yourself again meds mostly and financially, it's also
(42:19):
giving you that pausing point to reevaluate where that priority
actually does lie and are you ready for it, because
it's okay. If you're not, it's then enough. When I
am ready, I know this opportunity is here, I know
this is the person I can talk to, brilliant, and
then you can progress from there. But it definitely it
(42:40):
gives you more of that confidence of what are your
best decision making processes and when especially it is something
that is bigger. Again, it gives you that Operations manual
of you know exactly what to do to make that
profitable decision every single time, and even if it doesn't
turn out quote unquote the way that you want it to,
it is still the best decision you made with the
(43:02):
point at that information you had at that time. Now
you have new information. So let's go back to that
operations Kaniel Good, and let's put it back into the
system and now see where that takes you.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, Oh that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
And just as an add on to the sleeping on it,
it's always good to ask yourself a question before you
go to sleep about that, to try to listit and
answer sort of you know, while you're.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Sleeping in Yeah, sounboarded like talk, talk to your plant
or your dog or your partner or whomever, like, yeah,
get it out of your braid and let it. I
always say, let the glitter settle. Let it settle, is
your sleep aid. And then when you you know, whether
it's that morning or throughout the day, you will receive
that clarity and will feel like, oh there it is okay,
(43:46):
now I feel now, I feel better.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, And well, well I end on that word clarity
because I think what you're talking about is helping you
to have so much more clarity around yourself blueprint your
you know your path forward, what you want and all.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Of that clarity is everything. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yeah, well, Mel, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
This was youation.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Can you tell people how to.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Connect with you?
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Absolutely? Feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn melmicsherry
or on Instagram at Mel underscore McSherry. If this has
sparked some ideas and you want to save space to soundboard.
I love offering thirty minute complimentary virtual coffees with me
to do exactly that. No pressure, just space held. And
you can book one of those at Virtualcoffee with Mel
(44:36):
dot com or check out my readings at Melmickshery dot com.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Very nice.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Thank you, and again, thank you so much for joining
me today and I just loved having you on and
I'll be sure and share the show so people can
find out about you and learn more about what you're doing,
which is great work, so thank you for doing it.
You and audience, thank you so much for me here
with the money and new show. We love it when
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