When Harry Met Sally - In A Nutshell(Listener Choice) - Movies In A Nutshell

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Hello and welcome to Movies ina Nutshell with me, Mark Farquhar,
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let's discuss When Harry MetSally. So this is part one, which
we call the diagnostics. So inthis part we will look at the movie
stats, we then look at thesynopsis and we. We compare it to
our own version of synopsis.We give you the movie in a nutshell,
spoiler free, of course, andthen we give you some ratings and
reviews. So I'll start withthe stats. So it's currently available
on Prime. It was released in1989. It was rated 15. Runtime 95

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minutes. The genre is romanticcomedy. Stars Billy Crystal, Meg
Ryan, Carrie Fisher, BrunoKirby, directed by Rob Reiner, written
by Nora Efron, music by HarryConnick Jr. As a performer in there.
And Mark Shaman. There's yourranger. Budget was 16 million and
it took 92.8.
Yeah, it was good.
Yeah, it did well. Impact. Solet's have a look at the synopsis.

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Johnny Trotter has sent us hisversion of the synopsis.
Go Johnny, go Johnny, go, go, go.
So we'll do his first and thenwe'll look at the. We'll compare
battle his against the official.
So this is the listener synopsis.
Yeah. Cool. He says HarryBurns and Sally Albright are two
strangers who by chance keepmeeting throughout their lives. First
on a long drive acrossAmerica, then in airports, bookstores,

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and various other locations,becoming friends along the way. Will
they be able to stay friends?Stay as friends? Or will their feelings
make them become somethingmore good? He's obviously been listening.
Yeah, he's kept it. He's keptthe mystique there. Not given too
much away.
No, that nutshells it pretty well.
Right, let's. Let's go for theofficial compare. In 1977, college

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graduates, Harry Burns, playedby Curly Bistol. Crilly Bistol.
He's. He's my favorite.
That's his alter ego. TheWeekends yeah. In 1977, college graduates
Harry Burns, played by BillyCrystal, and Sally Albright, played
by Meg Ryan, share acontentious car ride from Chicago
to New York, during which theyargue about whether men and women

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can ever truly be platonicfriends. Over the next 12 years,
they encounter each othersporadically, developing a deep friendship
as they both search for loveand happiness. Eventually, they are
forced to confront their truefeelings for each other.
Oh my God, is that dull?
And you dare.
And also kind of like aspoiler as well. Why are you telling
me the whole story? Yeah,that's. That's horrendous.

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I think Johnny's is far betterthan that one.
Yeah, Johnny.
Yeah, because he, he kind ofexplained the plot and he didn't
give too much away as the end.
No. And. And Darren fellasleep during that synopsis.
Yeah.
So.
Very good, very good.
Damn you. Official synopsis.
And later in the episode, itwill be Johnny's. Worth a watch as
well. On to the nutshell. Soin a nutshell, what is this movie

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about?
Just about relationships,isn't it? I mean, the, the tightest
nutshell kind of descriptionis can men and women be friends without
sex getting involved? That'sbasically it. And which is weird
because this movie came out in1989 and I still think we're having
that discussion.
It's an ongoing, age oldquestion that will never be answered.
Exactly. And we still haverelationships and where we're twitchy

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over the female best friend orthe male best friend. I see tons
of discussions on this onpodcasts and like Reddit, am I the
asshole? Or whatever. So.Yeah, it's never really gone away.
I don't think they evenanswered the question.
No, they just prove that it'san unanswerable question. Yeah, it's
like sometimes when men getgirlfriends, they then drop out of

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their circle of the friendswho are women. They just don't see
them anymore. And then if theygo single again, then that comes
back around. It seems to be a.
Exactly. They break up andthey knock at your door, oh, who's
turned up again?
I see a new girlfriend willcome in. You know, a lot of women.
Do I. Oh, okay.
Yeah. Yeah.
Does that hint that I shouldnot be seeing. Yeah, yeah, well,

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yeah, it does, it does. It's.It's very. Yeah, it's an endless
debate.
It is, totally. But that'sreally what it's about. Which is
quite nice. It's a veryfocused film.
Just, it's a. It's a commentbasically on. On that. That sort
of. That angle.
And really, it's kind of asmall cast. Really, it's just. It's.
It's a. Yeah. Meg Ryan, BillyCrystal vehicle. If you do not like
the charm of Meg Ryan andBilly Cristian, you're going to struggle

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with this, I would assume,because it's their movie. Right.
But. Yeah. Any thoughts, Paul?What you think it's about?
I'm going to. This is probablyone of the ultimate romance films.
If you like. Your witty banteras well. One of the things as I was
rewatching it, which isn't aspoiler, it's more of a. If you like.
Is this film you've seen a lotof times anyway.
Yes.
Okay.

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I've seen it a lot. I saw itas a kid and didn't get half the
references.
And when you say kid, what agewere you?
I was pretty young. Okay. Iseem to remember being pretty young
when I watched this. I justthought it was a good film.
Yeah.
And.
And I. Yeah, most of thereferences went right over my head
until I got older. And thenI'm like, oh, this is even better
than I thought, really, whatyou film.
And then you realize thefemale orgasm was actually a myth.

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I had no idea what that. Noidea what that scene was about. Maybe
we still don't. Who knows? Butif you like. And this is the first
time I've thought about it inthis way. I know you guys have both
watched Seinfeld as well, butif you like that kind of Seinfeld
humor.
Yeah, that's valid.
It's very kind of that punchydialogue sitting around the coffee

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table, George and. George andJerry shooting the shit. As I was
rewatching it this time, it'sthe first time I thought, yeah, it's
really got that Seinfeld sortof vibe to it.
There's that one episode inSeinfeld where there's, like. There's
this, the friendship. And thenhe's like. Then there's that pointing
to the bedroom. If we cancombine this with that.
With that. Yeah, but we needrules, so this doesn't get in the

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way with that. So. And also.
But quite often it does.
Castle Rock. I realized thisat the end. Castle Rock kind of produced
it. And they produced Seinfeldas well. Maybe there's a link there.
I don't know. But if you'reinto that kind of witty, bantery
humor of Seinfeld, but alsoEarly Friends as well. Early Friends
was very much like, in thatmold. It kind of got daft. I love
Friends, but you'll Know whatI mean? If you're a Friends fan,

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the first series is very kindof relationship bantery, sort of
in that Harry Met Sally kindof vein. So. And if you're a fan
of romantic comedies and youhaven't seen this one, I feel like
this is the one you need to see.
Yeah.
This is like one of your clever.
It's up there. Which iswritten one standard of romantic
comedies that you shouldprobably watch.
But yeah, if you like your romcoms, you need to see it. If you

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like that kind of witty humorof talking about relationships and
that kind of thing likeSeinfeld and your early friends,
I think you'll enjoy this.
It's also about howrelationships change and how people
change over time. That's howlike the timeline of them keep. When
they. When they meet a fewyears later, things have changed.
They've changed. It's kind ofthat. That's the continuing arc is
the two of them, not justtheir relationship with them as.
As individuals.

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Yeah, that's. That's, that'strue. People at different points
in the time and how maybe itclicks over here, but doesn't click
there. I think there's a lotof first impressions.
Totally wrong.
Yeah.
I mean, if you met someonewhen you're a teenager, it's gonna
be different in your 20s, whenyou're in 30s, when you're in your
40s.
Yeah. But it' it takes men a while.
To grow up randomly this. AndI don't know if you'll agree with
me this or not. No, let me sayit first. But like, you know, Quentin

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Tarantino's action films havethem things like where they're talking
about the Mac and cheese.
Yes.
Fiction and that kind ofthing. And it's again, I'm saying
Seinfeld is the best exampleof this. It's like it's. It's about
nothing in a lot of timeswhere it's just them sat talking
about stuff in a cafe. But theway it's done is so brilliantly written.
Yeah.
And performed that you justinvested in the way like, you know,

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okay, they're talking aboutcheeseburgers in pulpit. What's this
got to do? And then you justinvested. So it reminded me of that.
It's like the romantic comedyof the querent Quentin Tarantino.
I don't know what I'm tryingto say. But you. You know what I
mean?
You're saying it withconviction though, so.
Yeah. Well, there you go.
We embrace what you're saying.
Embrace it. Embrace it. Yeah.It's Very wittily written and it's

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kind of. It's a film aboutnothing and everything.
I feel like we mentionedSeinfeld quite a lot. Meant to do
like a bonus episode onSeinfeld at some point. I do love
Seinfeld and its impact oneverything. Yeah. Anyway. Anything
else?
No, that's. It's a prettysimple, straightforward movie.
Yeah.
It's Battle of the Sexiest,Men of Mars, Women of Venus.

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And it's also not too long.It's about 90 minutes on the mark.
It's 100. It's 1 hour 30. Andit just feels the absolute perfect
rom com type length.
Let's move on to the ratingsand the reviews. Let's do the ratings.
So start. Rotten tomatoes.Critics review 91.
Yeah, right.
Oh, user is not far behind. 89.

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It was, I think was nominatedfor an Academy Award, an Oscar for
the best script.
I think very well. I thinksomewhere in one of my facts of the
day, which I'll just tell younow, I think they put it in, you
know, where they take a filmand they say this is an important.
Literally work. And they putit in the museum, whatever, arts
or something. I believe it'sin one of those. Yeah.

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IMDb 7.7 Metacritic criticsreview 76 out of 100 users was 8.7
out of 10. People like itsolid, Very well received. So we
picked a cross section asalways. So Robert Ebert of the Chicago
Times praised the film,stating it's witty and epigrammatic
and there are lots of lines toquote when you are telling friends

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about the movie. He alsohighlights the chemistry between
the leads. Harry is played byBilly Crystal and Meg Ryan is Sally.
And they make a good moviecouple because they both actors and
are able to suggest genuinewarmth and tenderness.
I think that's. I mean, RogerEbert is like a God of film critics,
but I think that's a littlebit over the top. I think. I think
Billy Crystal is kind of.Well, Billy Crystal's just being

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Billy Crystal. I'm not surehe. He's got the kind of a comedian's
charm, but I don't think hegot across that much warmth.
It felt like he was justplaying a stereotypical man at the
time.
Yeah. Whereas Meg Ryan, Ithink, had much more range and did
the bulk of.
The heavy lifting, but that'sjust reverence. Men versus women.
Yeah, Tony, Yeah. Women doingall the work.
Okay. So. Karen James of theNew York Times offered a more critical

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perspective describing thefilm as an often funny but amazingly
hollow film that romanticizedlives of intelligent, successful,
neurotic New Yorkers. Shefurther characterized it as the sitcom
version of Woody Allen film,full of amusing lines and scenes,
all infused with anuncomfortable sense of deja vu.
That is really good that youdid that, that you got a male perspective

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and a female perspective.
It made sense. And one moreperson too, of course.
Yeah. Let's hear it. Let'shear the Is it going to be.
He just simply has. He's putsharp writing and enduring appeal.
It was a must watch upon itsrelease and it's a must watch today.
Bit drivers. Oh, it's on themoney. Well, ish.
Sometimes he doesn't messaround, sometimes he goes in depth.

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Today just says, yeah, it'sgood. Watch it. Basically.
Yeah.
Okay, let's head on intospoiler territory. So this is part
two of the podcast. So we havewhat did we miss? And Test of Time.
In what did we miss? We. I saywe. Darren will challenge the way

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you see this movie and revealwhat you may have missed when watching
the movie, Even if you've seenit a lot of times. In Test of Time,
it can go either two ways. Ifit's an older movie, we'll work out
or we'll discuss what wouldhappen if it was released today.
And if it's a modern movie,we'll discuss what would happen if
it was at least 25 years ago.So in what did we miss, Darren, what
have you got for us?
I've got barely anythingbecause I don't think there's that

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much going on behind what wesee. I mean, it's a Rob Reiner film,
which is a great director.He's did Princess Bride, Princess
Bride and Stand By Me, Ithink, which are great movies. And
Billy Crystal's also inPrincess Bride, so there's that connection.
Have fun starving. The castle boys.
Yeah, totally that guy. So. Sothere's some nice filmmaking in terms

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of framing and things likethat, but other than that, there's
not that much going on otherthan it's a little bit ahead of its
time in some ways. Like Ireally like the fact that Billy Crystal's
character is. Has it.Basically it's all about having an
anxiety attack on a date. He'slike, you know, I have a. Having
a full blown like anxietyattack right there at dinner. I said,
oh, that's unusual. And thatis quite Woody Allen actually.

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But yeah, a bit of hiscomplexity to the character.
Yeah, a little bit ahead ofhis time, which was nice. It was
interesting. When you werereading the synopsis out in the films,
the names Came up because it'sSally Albright. So, of course, like,
she's like the happy,optimistic, sunny character. And
Harry is Harry Burns.

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That's good. I like that.
But other than that, it's hardbecause a lot of the stuff we're
seeing is just quitestereotypical. But it was. It's not
the first romantic comedy. Youcan go back to things like almost
like Bringing Up Baby to acertain extent, which is a scribble
comedy, but it's kind ofromantic comedies in the 40s. But
this has really got theconventions down. It's got the sarcastic

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best friend brilliantly playedby Carrie Fisher, who I am sure.
Well, I'm not sure thetimings, because when did Drop Dead
Fred come out after this?
1990S. It was like 94.
It wouldn't have surprised meif Drop Dead Fred and this were being
shot on a lot back to back.And she walked out of this film into
Drop Dead Fred and playedexactly the same caravan with the

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same wardrobe, the same haircut.
She does it where she isexactly the same.
Sleeping with a married manand whining that you want to.
Every scene was, he'll neverleave her.
No, you're right.
That's funny.
Like, so she's got the. She'sgot the sarcastic best or anything,
which is cool.
On 91. Drop Dead Fred. So itwasn't that far off.
Two years apart.

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Yeah. And then. And thenanother convention is that you have
the race to stop the person.So you've got to race to the wedding
to kind of stop the wedding.You got to race to the airport to
get them before they. Theyleave. And you have races towards
the New Year's party to sayit. So there's not a great deal that
I think most people havemissed. It was. I just think it's
a bit. Yeah, it is what it is,I guess.

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Simplistic compared to somemovies. I mean, some movies go out
of their way to have, like,leave the world behind. I mean, there
was so much going on.Symbolism and things that you might
have missed and things gobehind the scene, things. Dual things
happen at the same time.There's none of this and that. It's
literally focusing on these characters.
Yeah. And a lot of it, it'sjust kind of. It makes me think that
not much has change. I mean,there's a bit at the beginning where
they're arguing overCasablanca and she's saying that

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it was the. I can't rememberwhich one way they were arguing.
I think she's saying that sheshould have Left and not stayed with
Rick. And he's like, what areyou talking about? Like, that's crazy.
Then she denies it. She likesa few mini. I'd never say that.
But her reasoning was itwouldn't be a good choice to date
a man who runs a bar. And Ifeel like there's a lot of kind of
discussion online now.
It's like a snobbery kind of thing.

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It's like a snobbery like.Well, you know, it's like now it'd
be like, well, a man has tohave like six figures or a job as
a job.
That's the other way to lookat it.
Yeah. And so. And so it'sinteresting that that was in there.
Even though she later denieswhat she said.
Well, it's like him, shereminds him that he said men and
women can't be friends withoutsex. And he goes, I didn't say that.
Yeah, I didn't say that. Sothey've flipped that they both have
that reference over each other.
Yeah, I liked all the cutecouple stuff. That was stuff I. And

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that was also frustrated me.But that's maybe more for the next
section because they werelike, you know, I said that. I said
to my friend, I'm going tomarry her. And then two weeks later
we were married. Fuck.
When it goes to the oldercouples talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's. That does happen.Yeah, it does back then, anyway.
Yeah, totally.
Anything else to add?

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So I watched this film withRob Reiner, not literally, but on
the DVD commentary.
I had him round for a brew.Watch the film.
It was like having him roundfor a brew. So I watched it with
the director's commentary,which was great because I've seen
this film a lot over theyears, so I can quote most of it
off the top of my head anyway.Pecan pie. But I won't. I won't do

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another listeners. But there'slots of kind of stories behind the
scenes of how they came upwith the stories and things. So a
lot of it was based off RobReiner himself.
Yeah.
Who just broke up. So he wasin Single World and it was about
him dating and things likethat. And then I learned through
the commentary that heactually met his. I meant to look
up if he's still married toher, but he met his next wife, shall

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we say, on whilst he wasmaking this film. Like his story
came true whilst he was makingthe film. Nora Ephron obviously wrote
the film. Billy Crystal didlots of ad lib in and even made Ryan
through ideas and like thefamous scene in the diner kind of
came out of conversationsbetween Nora Ephron and Meg Ryan.
Really? That's interesting.
In the commentary, Rob Reinerbasically says that the fake orgasm

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scene and everything came fromNora Ephron. But Nora Ephron kind
of credits Meg Ryan becausethey were all discussing it and then
they decided that's how thescene would go. The line, I'll have
what she's having apparentlycame for Billy Crystal, because it
probably wouldn't.
It.
That's interesting becausethat scene for me is like the chest
burster scene in Alien.
Yeah.
Like it's the scene that kindof makes the movie. Oh, now we're

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into a movie. I haven't seensomething like this before.
Yeah.
So it's interesting. That cameout kind of almost ad libbed.
It sounds like a lot of. A lotof it was kind of collaboration,
especially between Rob Reinerand Nora Ephron. The bits about her
ordering. That's Nora Ephron.That's what she used to order. Things
like in restaurants. And RobReiner was like, what the hell? That's
the nutiest way I've ever seenanyone order anything.

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Yeah.
And that went straight intothe character. So there was lots
of stories.
High maintenance.
Yeah. And then of coursethere's the Billy Crystal improvisation
scenes and things which werethose. Oh, so many discussed.
I didn't know.
I bet that New Year thing wasad libbed as well.
Well, I didn't pick up any.Any of that. The.

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The ending, apparently when hegot to the ending, apparently they
did shoot a scene and itwasn't quite working still. So they
reworked the script a lotuntil they came with. Now, the scene
that you see in the film wherethey have the big speech and everything,
that's obviously very.
Is he renowned for hissublibs? Is that something. He's
a comedian.
Yeah. Yeah.
Got you.
So. So there's a bit actuallywhen he's doing the whole. And I'd

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be proud to partake in.
Your peak and high.
There's a bit where Meg Ryanalmost looks off camera.
Yeah, now you mentioned it.
And he just was like, yeah, gowith it.
Wacky.
Yeah. So lots of stuff behindthe scenes. And also the. The scenes
that we were just on about,the cutaway scenes of the couples.
Initially he recorded propercouples with their stories, but apparently

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they weren't very good withcamera presence particularly so it's
their stories. So they're allreal stories. But he got actors into
then.
That's good because I thought.I didn't recognize the actors. At
the beginning I was like,these real stories because they're
really, they're really cuteand adorable, but you really winded
me up.
I read that they were all, allrelatives of team production team,
film crew.
People in the crew.
All relatives of peopleconnected to the film. I didn't know

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that. They didn't. That wasn'tactually them.
No.
Okay.
Later on, there's an actressthat I recognize. I was like, ah,
you are actually actors. SoI'm really pleased. They're true
stories. And he's adorable.
I know.
And you'll be, you'll be happyto know that he is still married
to Marie. No, Michelle.
Oh, there you go.
He's a really lovely guy. He'sthis big barrel of a man with a big
beard. He's so sweet.
The other bit is when BillyCrystal and Meg Ryan do their cutaway

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scene at the end where they'retalking about. We're in spoilers
on, aren't we? Yeah, you know,big, big spoiler. They have coconut
wedding cake, kids. But whenthey're doing all that, that's all
ad libbed. Apparently thatwasn't scripted.
She's like, I hate you. Yeah, yeah.
And the other thing is RobBryner, which he does apparently
on most his films, is they hadlike two weeks rehearsing everything

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before they actually filmedanything. Which makes sense with
the timing of things becausethere's one shot in it that he talks
about where it's a one shot.And I didn't even think about it
until I heard it with RobReiner telling you about it. Where
he's on the. What they callthe airports where they're on the
not escalator. That kind ofthing where the track.
Thing, like till you go faster.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that'sall one shot. And it's when he's

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doing the quite complicatedspeech all around, like men and women
can't be friends.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You know, ah, woman friend.And that was all done. I think they
said they had six takes ofthat or something like that. Yeah,
they did about six takes ofthat and picked the best one. And
then. See, I told you I hadlots of stuff behind the scenes.
Yeah, yeah.
The other scene that you don'tthink is complicated because it's

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done so well is the four way conversation.
Yeah, the split screen ones.
The split screen ones. So theydid that all live and rehearsed it
all so everyone could heareveryone else. But they had to get
everything in the right syncedup, synced in the right order.
It Was good. The bit of thetwo of them. There's the scene with
the two of them on the. Intheir own beds.
Yeah.
Split. Screened it so itlooked like they were in bed together.

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And that came out of. RobReiner used to do that with Billy
Crystal. They would watchmovies together and be on the phone.
And that's where they got thatidea from and said, oh, we should
do that with them.
I remember doing that with Reddwarf in the 90s with my friends.
Oh, there you go.
We would just ring them. Areyou seeing this? It's all fake. It's
a simulation. It's a game.
It's a game. I remember thatepisode. Yeah, so. So that was a

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complicated. The one where itwent with the four screen. Apparently
they did like 60 takes andthey got it on like take 55 or take
60 or something like that. Butthey said that was a technique. He
said, of all the things I'vedone. And like you say he's done
Princess Bride and things likethat, but he said that was one of
the most technical things.Sorry. So many facts of the day sitting
there watching.
Keep them coming. Fire them at us.
So apparently Billy Crystal'sUncle Bern was dressed as Santa Claus

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in the scene where the SantaClaus. That's his uncle. There you
go.
Nepotism.
Nepotism.
Yeah.
Just in case you wanted. Yeah,the. He was talking about the big
laugh that, you know, like yousaid, the big I'll have, which he's
having. I'm clearly going tosay that as my send off at the end.
But apparently the laugh wasso big from that. The next scene

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goes. And it's a bit of amontage scene. And he was. Rob Reiner
was saying, when I've watchedthis in screenings, you know, Harry
Connick junior's songs kickingin or. No, it was someone else singing
at that point. He's like. Butyou just didn't hear the song for
like another three minutesbecause everyone was laughing that
much still at that scene.That's cool because it was such a
mic drop.
It was a good scene. Like, Iknew it was coming and I was like,

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oh, is she gonna pull thisoff? Yeah, exactly. I say, now, you
know, I watched that when Iwas a lot younger. Now I'm a sophisticated
man with the variousexperiences like, is this gonna land?
But actually she really pullsit off. I thought, is it bad that
I'm saying that I recognize afake orgasm?
I'm going to comment on any of that.
But yeah, that's what theysound like, fake orgasms.

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Just a really good actress.
Yeah.
And then the director ofcinematography is Barry Sonnenfeld
who became a director as welland he worked on Men in Black films.
He did the Addams Family filmsfrom the 90s and various other things.
And they were talking aboutthe kind of the look of the film
and it's very kind of notplaying but it's kind of warm colors

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and everything else. But hejust let the actors do the thing
and you know, Rob Reiner wassaying he doesn't like to go over
the top, he just likes toshoot the thing, tell the story.
And you don't really thinkabout it when you're watching the
film. And that's probablywhat's quite nice. Like even the
transitions where you go fromall these years, don't you? You've
got like five year gap andthen the next one. It all feels quite
natural the way they did itand it doesn't dwell on it too long

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and it snaps through it.
It also didn't spoon feed youcoming up five years later.
No, it did.
I think it did it once becauseit was a big gap.
Does it?
But it's every, every time,every time it went through a different
gap. It didn't tell you therewas a gap yet.
Yeah, but the hairstyleschanged dramatically.
But considering it was filmed,they did it well, considering it
was filmed at the same time.
Well, he talked about that abit as well. You know how they would

(24:05):
try to do the differenthairstyles to make it look.
Because her hairstyles aloneis what tells you how old this when
they try to set it.
Yeah, yeah. But he talkedabout, which I never thought about,
he talked about the costume init. He was saying how, you know,
they always give awards outfor costume in when it's, you know,
period dramas or sci fi orsomething that's out there. He said,

(24:25):
but it's actually really hardto do contemporary costume in. And
when you think about it,because I know we'll do Test of Time
in a bit, but yeah, it's a bit80s, it's a bit 90s and everything,
but it still kind of holds up.There's nothing in there that's all
right. Billy Crystal's jumpersat one point get a bit like. But
that'll probably roll aroundagain. So he was talking about costum
in it at some point and hisfavorite shot was the one. And then

(24:49):
I'll shut up about what Robsaid because like I've got like four,
I've got four pages and youknow, we've been on for 40 minutes,
but cut out what you want. Buthis favorite scene is the scene where
they're both in bed where MegRyan. They've both slept together
for the first time. And MegRyan's kind of Billy Crystal's face
just says it all. Yeah.
He's looking like. What hesaid in the past is like, I can't

(25:10):
wait to get out of here.
Yeah.
Do I give it a minute? Do Igive it 30 seconds? How long?
How long do I hold her? Yeah.
So he was trying not to dothat, wasn't he?
Yeah. Is that what all menthink? Yeah, all of us. So, yeah,
there was lots of tidbitsbehind the scenes of how it was a
personal film and how lots ofthe story actually came out of his
own experiences and ended upon the screen.

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Some good quotes in thismovie. You got some quotes? I've
picked up one that maybe laughfrom one of the old couples when
they've been interviewed. Whenthere was an old woman saying, oh,
he came. He came over thedance floor. I thought he was going
to talk to my friend becauseeveryone wants to talk to her. But
he cared to talk to me. And hesaid, hello, my name's Such and Such,
and I'm with Such and Such.And then she was like, oh, yeah,
that's it. And then he lookedat it, she looked at him and went,

(25:51):
you know when. It's a good melon.
Yeah.
Nice.
Those little couples werequite endearing. I like those. I
like those touches to the film.
There's a horrible line wheresomeone says, I don't know if I ever
loved you. Is that when BillyCrystal knows he's. Billy Crystal's
wife is breaking up with him.
Yeah.
He.
No, he's telling his friend atthe baseball game. You know, they

(26:12):
keep standing up to.
Do the Mexican wave.Apparently that happened to Rob Reiner
and his mate. That's an actual thing.
That's a Seinfeld thing aswell. Keep putting things in that
actually happen to people.They're not just made up. Yeah, yeah.
He was telling. He wasspilling his. It's juxtaposition
of, like, spilling his heartout in this weird environment.
And there's a bit where Sallycries and she's like, I'm gonna be

(26:33):
40. And he's like, in eightyears. Yeah. She's like, some.
Okay, but it's there. Some ofthe ones I've got. I never considered
not sleeping with you asacrifice. Are we becoming friends
now? Great. A woman friend.
Yeah.
Kind of nodding himself.
She says at one point, you'rea human affront to all women, and

(26:54):
I am a woman.
Yeah.
Yeah. There's the famous quoteof, oh, I'll have what she's having.
The other one is, which Ifound personally irritating, is when
she was talking about the goodsex she's had with Sheldon, and he's
like, you didn't have good sexwith Shelton. Like, nobody has good
sex with Sheldon. Sheldon.What? My. Yeah. And as a guy called

(27:15):
Darren, I have huge issueswith. This is why I very nearly changed
my name to Jack.
He has issues with it becauseit's true.
Just.
Yeah, well, Big Bang Theory isit. That's got Sheldon in it.
Yeah. It's like nerds.
It's kind of like, you know,they're going with that sort of stereotype,
aren't they?
And. And the bit where.

(27:35):
Anyone listening? If you'reSheldon and you're a stud and you've
got loads of women.
Yeah. Send in a reference fromyour girlfriend or boyfriend so that
we can decide if this is true.You need to spell that primary research.
And you can state that thatmovie was wrong.
I have indeed rocked someone's life.
Well, that symptom is my wife.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That was a good quote.

(27:56):
Yeah, that was impactful. That.
That and the bit where he'stalking about, like, oh, you can't
be friends with women that youfind attractive. And then he keeps
talking, and then he'seventually like, nah, you pretty
much want to nail them, too.
Oh, yeah. What if they'reunattractive? Yeah, you probably
want to nail them, too.
Yeah.
But he is a dick. He's a dickcharacter. Like, I. I'm actually.
They were going for Kaddish.Kaddish. Rob Reiner's words.

(28:19):
No, they.
Likable cad.
He said, meg Ryan can dobetter. Sally Albright can do better.
Better.
Okay, let's go for takeaways.What did we think? Darren, I'll start
with you.
I. I have watched this. I loveRob Reiner. At the time, I had a
huge crush on Meg Ryan. LikedBilly Crystal because he'd been in

(28:39):
City Slickers watching this. Ijust, like, I. I felt like a zombie.
I felt like I was beingsedated, and I was just like, oh,
my God, this has dated so much.
And how long has it been sinceyou've seen it? It.
Oh, it would. Oh. Before I didmy degree. I would imagine so. Oh,
God, I keep forgetting how oldI am. Like, maybe 30 years. 30 years.

(29:00):
Maybe 30 years.
Wow. I would have seen it inthe 90s at some point. Late 90s probably.
So, yeah, like it didn't lie.And those bits, like the bit where
he's talking about what doesold land sign mean? I was like, that's
just really. That's the bestyou've got? Come on. I, I, I, Yeah,
I got nothing from it. And youknow, but also I'm, but you know,
I've recently broken up withsomeone, so I'm watching a romantic

(29:23):
comedy.
Difficult time for you towatch it.
I'm just like couples fallingin love.
Well, even Rob Reiner thoughtthat about the ending. At first he
said, he said, oh, we've gonea bit too far with the schmaltz.
But then he's watched it sincethen. Now he's married and everything
and he really likes the ending.
Harry says happiness is anillusion at some point. So you're

(29:44):
going to be arguing over whogets the toaster. Like, yeah, I think
that bring that kind of venom,Harry and this wagon.
Coffee table.
Yeah, totally.
Paul.
Yeah. I love Harry Met Sally.
Okay. It's an absolute, one ofyour faves.
It's an absolute classic. If Ihad to pick a favorite rom com, that
would be the one that came inmy mind.
Four winners in the funeral.Notting Hill.
Yeah, I'd take Harry Met Sally.

(30:04):
Wow.
But again, maybe that'sbecause I've grown up on it. There's
that nostalgia factor. Mycrush on MC Ryan probably helps as
well. And then watching it andkind of getting a different take
on it as I get older andgetting the jokes that were obviously
meant for adults but seen as akid and not really getting them and
going over my head. But yeah,I just think it's very much in that

(30:26):
humor that I like, thatSeinfeld humor, that talking about
stuff, even the thing thatDarren just said, I always find funny
because every New Year's Eve Ithink of Billy Crystal going like,
what is this song even about?Do we forget the friends or did we.
Yeah, I'd like all that stuff.So I, I think it's still going to
be one of those, yeah, maybeit's dated a little bit now.
Well, look at the, the ratingsas we do with all, all of these have

(30:50):
been reviewed over a longperiod of time. Yeah. About 8.8 or
whatever. So it's stillplaying his reviews from when it
came out all the way up to now.
Yeah.
Thousands and thousands ofviews. So it gets a very good average.
So, yeah, I, I, yeah, I lovethis film and it's one of my favorite
rom coms and it's up therewith Notting Hill and stuff for me,
but I would probably stillpick this one above it just because

(31:11):
of the band.
Okay, let's do Test of Time.So this was released in 1989. So
what would happen if itreleased in 2025?
It would. I don't think itwould do well because a lot of this
is. Even though it's stillrelevant now, it's kind of.
We discussed at the beginningthat it's just. It's. It's covering
issues that are still relevanttoday. You Maybe even more. But,

(31:31):
yeah, it's. I don't know. Isit done in a way that would hold
up today?
No, and I think. I think ithas dated quite badly. Reminded me
a bit of the Before Sunrisemovies. So. Before Sunrise, Before
Sunset, Before Midnight, andalso a little bit of Boyhood. Yeah.
So Boyhood's a movie thatRichard Ling later did, but he films
it over the course of, like,12 or 15 years. But they literally
stopped production and thencame back five years later and carried

(31:53):
on. So you see these kids growup, which is, you know, kind of similar
to this. But Before Sun Rise,Ethan Hawke is on the train in Vienna,
I think, and he sees JulieDelpy and just goes up and he's like,
hey, you know, I'm gonna go.My flight's not till the morning.
I'm gonna bum around Vienna.Do you want to walk around with me?
And they just hang out andtalk. And she's like, no, that's

(32:14):
crazy. And he's like, come on.In 10 years, you're going to be married
to some boring guy, and you'regoing to think back, like, what would
have happened if I got off thetrain? And she gets off the train.
He's almost caught in themovie here as well. That's impressive.
Sounds good.
And they. And they just walkaround Vienna talking about what
it means to be young, what itmeans to be female and male, and.
And they fall in love, andit's adorable. And it's done infinitely

(32:34):
better than this because Ithink times had passed. But then
Before Sunrise has a sequel,Before Sunset, which is set, I think,
seven or nine years later. Sothey're a little bit older, and so
the characters are kind of indifferent places of their lives.
And again with a sequel afterthat. So the reason I'm going on
about this is I think thatwe've got much better at portraying

(32:55):
relationships and the dynamicsbetween men and women now. And I
think this would be a littlebit dated. It's a little bit. I don't
say twee but it kind of is,it's like, it's a very, it's a very
shallow kind of almost cartooncharacter idea of men and women.
I think it would be. And nowyou'd have much more like diversity

(33:16):
or it'd be more about, youknow, I don't like the white word
woke, but I think we'd havesome, you'd have some kind of edge
to it now. What do you think?
Yeah, I see what you say. Ithink it still would find its audience
just on the car coming here torecord this. Bridget Jones, the new
Bridget Jones film has justbroken romantic comedy box office

(33:38):
records. So clearly there is amarket for that kind of rom com thing
going on with this particularone. I don't know. I think it would
still probably find anaudience somewhere. But like Darren
says. Yeah, there's moresubtleties maybe in more modern.
And also back then in the 80s,we kind of had star theory where
you could get an actor andthey would carry the movie. So like
you wouldn't go to see like aromantic comedy. You go see a Meg

(34:01):
Ryan movie. And we had it inthe 90s with Sandra Bullock. Yes,
Sandra Bullock. Then we had itwith like you'd go see a Jim Carrey
movie, you'd go see an ArnoldSchwarzenegger movie and that kind
of died.
Sean Stone.
Yeah. But now we have morelike character movies. So you'd go
watch a Captain America moviebut not necessarily Chris Evans movie.
Or we go see a Thor movie butnot necessarily a Liam Hemsworth

(34:22):
movie. So it depends, like who would.
Chris Hemsworth.
Yeah, Chris Hemsworth.
Just in case the listeners arethere going, oh no, he said the wrong.
Yeah.
So I think it kind of dependswho you would cast on this. Like
I, it was Zendaya and Tom Holland.
I go and watch it.
I mean, I think it would also.I've said this about older films.

(34:43):
The pacing of it is quite slowcompared to what rom coms would be
like today. It's. I don't mindthat. Of the younger generation.
I don't think would, wouldstick with it.
Yeah, but maybe they're morefrantic, I.
Suppose, and there'll be morecomplicated, be more things going
on even.
Well, even Notting Hill is abig jump forward. I think there's
great filmmaking techniques inNotting Hill. There's, there's loads

(35:05):
of humor. There's, there'salso a little bit more. The great
thing about Notting Hill isthere's a woman who's in a wheelchair
for no freaking reason at all.It's Just that character happens
to be in the wheelchair. And Ilove it when movies do that kind
of stuff.
Have to be a reason. It's justlife saved.
The bit where he throws her inthe car and he's like, no, you're
coming with us.
I know, it's adorable. So Ithink. I think that this. This feels

(35:28):
like a movie that was made in1989, but it's kind of looking back
a little bit to how romanticcomedies were. And I think romantic
comedies have moved on a lotsince then and they're much more
complex.
If somebody came up with aconcept of this and there may be
the script of it, it need abit of reworking.
Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot ofyou working. I don't say it wouldn't
work. I mean, you could easilydo it, but I think it would be. Yeah,

(35:50):
you'd have to have a lot ofthings going on and I don't know
what angle you would take. Youcould go like deeper into mental
health stuff, like the anxietyaround it.
Yeah.
Men's loneliness. It could endup being quite depressing because
the state of dating right nowfeels quite depressing, doesn't it?
Well, that's the other bit ofthis isn't that there's no Tinder
on this film. It's very oldschool. It's got that kind of clean

(36:12):
slate of how you used tosimply people simplistic. And maybe
that's why I love it still. Ithink it's still got that timeless
quality because it's not setin. So if you did do all the whole.
A new version and it's gotTinder and swiping and all this kind
of stuff, which there is thesesort of films because.
Have you seen out of Sight,George Clooney?
Yeah, I've seen bits of it.
I was just curious as towhether you would class that as a

(36:33):
romantic comedy.
Okay, there's your go. Watch that.
I need to watch it.
That's a mini worth of watchfor you.
I think I've seen the end ofit, you know, when it's on.
Yeah. I'm just trying to thinkof, like, what's the last romantic
comedy that I've seen?
I mean, there's one calledHe's. He's Just not that into youo.
That's old as well.
But these are quite old filmsnow. Yeah. Because rom coms have
kind of. We haven't had anyfor a while, have we?
I think Reese Witherspoon isjust really Palm Springs.

(36:55):
Oh, Palm Springs.
Yeah. But that's A goodexample of how different it was.
Yes. Because if you put thatin the 80s, I. Yeah. Different kind
of tone of humor, isn't it?But yeah. Why Nostalgia hits you
and you go, oh, I can't sayanything. This is Harry Met Sally,
damn it.
What I'd like it to do isstart later on in life. So if it

(37:16):
was like two 50 year oldsmeeting each other.
Okay.
And just.
I'll be the sequel.
Yeah. And it's like, well, doyou. Are you still believing in love?
Then it's like, oh, my God,I'm approaching 50 on it.
Before midnight.
Yeah, they could do. Yeah,they could do a sequel, but it would
be like When Frank Met Jane,older version of that. Okay. Is that

(37:37):
test of time covered?
Yeah. So in. In conclusion, itwould need a bit of update in, but
it'd be fine.
But it could. It would find aplace because men.
And women are still anightmare. Actually, sorry to go
on about it, actually, fromwhat I'm reading in America, US and
Australia, men are leaningright wing and women are leading
left wing. So you could reallyexplore that in a movie in terms

(38:00):
of their beliefs.
And trying to find how wouldthat affect a relationship.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, so let's move on to partthree of the podcast. So in. In part
three, we have Worth a Watch,which probably could do with a better
name as well because it makesit think like we're still talking
about. Is this movie worth a while?
Yeah, yeah, totally.
So anyone listening, if youcan come with a better name, Worth

(38:22):
a Watch, please send it in.And the listener section, which is
now an established part ofthis show, is. We don't know what
to call it. What is the. Ihave the back row. You're suggesting
the balcony.
Yeah, the green room.
I don't know, something. Asection where it's dedicated just
to listener interactions,where we will read out your comments,
emails, your stories. Yeah.

(38:43):
Your take as in.
And also in part three, nextweek's movie. Okay. So Worth a Watch
this week is Johnny Trotters.He sent us something in.
Okay, what's he got?
Johnny Trotter has recommendedBlink Twice.
Okay. I don't know anythingabout that movie. I think I've just
seen it on a streaming service.

(39:03):
He says, I first saw this filmin the cinema last year and I must
admit I was hesitant. Itdidn't seem like my kind of film.
But as soon I soon becamehooked. It's an amazing film with
crazy twists and turns thatare set up from the very first shot
of the film. It's Very similarto Don't Worry, Darling. No, no,
no. Okay. In its themes andnarrative, it starts some. It stars

(39:24):
some amazing actors likeChanning Tatum, Naomi Aki, Christian
Slater, and Gina Davis. That'sa good lineup. That is a good lineup,
just to name a few. Anddirector directed by Zoe Kravitz.
Okay.
A really great film with astellar cast backing up and some
great shots and sounds. Reallymaking you feel every moment. I won't
say too much more. Just giveit a watch. It's genuinely great.

(39:44):
All right, so Kravitz beingthe director's got my attention,
so sounds good.
Any of you listeners, if yougo and check that out, let us know.
Email us. Hello, Movies in anutshell dot com. Or hit us up on
our socials. They're in thelinks in the show notes. Let us know
if you watched it and what you thought.
Get it on our list.
Yeah. So also, before wereveal next week's episode, I just

(40:04):
want to say, if you want tohelp us here on the podcast, we are
new. The best thing you can dois give us a rating and a review
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show. Just share with afriend. If you can just think of
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them a link, tell them aboutus, and you'll be doing us a massive
favor. A while ago, we asked aquestion on our socials. I don't

(40:26):
know if you remember, guys.And the question was if you could
delete one movie from existence.
Yeah.
Would it be? And why? I'mgonna ask you guys first, Paul, and
ask you.
Okay, though at first I waslike, you can't delete any movie
because even bad movies aresometimes great. And then I thought
about. And I'm gonna try andkeep this condensed because I feel
this could be a full podcastin its sense in itself. But the fact

(40:47):
they didn't put Han, Luke,Leia, and Lando together in a scene
in the sequel trilogy isterrible. I still can't get over
that fact. Yes, I'm talkingabout Star Wars. Force Awakens. Kind
of enjoyed Last Jedi. I know Iprobably get, you know, beaten up
for this, but kind of enjoyed.And that's probably my favorite of
the three, the Rise ofSkywalker. Delete that film. Just

(41:08):
do it again, start again, doit correctly. I don't say this about
many films, but when itliterally comes up in this spoiler
alert, they bring backPalpatine, which it's not a spoiler
because it's in the Trailer,the dead has spoken. He comes. But
it's just, ah, he's about to explode.
Paul's about to explode.
Really tried with that film,but then when they get to the Death

(41:31):
Star and there's still part ofit in a sea somewhere and they're
using a dagger that points toa thing that goes to a finder that
take. It's like, no, the DeathStar exploded in Return of the Jedi.
Why is it in the sea overthere? Why have they not put the
three main leads together?They could have done something creative
with Luke Haunt in Kylo Ren orsomething, but no, they just have
him in a dodgy cameo thatretcons everything that happened

(41:53):
in the one before. So at firstI was very opposed to deleting anything,
but I'm like, you know what?Redo that one. I'm still gonna disagree
with the way you went aboutthe whole sequel. Trilogy ends at
Return of the Jedi probably.Even though I had quite a bit of
joy out of, you know, 7 and 8to start with. But that. That ending
it off just made it a bitterpill to swallow.

(42:15):
That's the angriest I've everseen him.
Darren, do you agree with anyof what I said?
I don't think you shoulddelete movies at all. And that was
my first impulse. I wentthrough the thought process, I said,
what movies would I want todelete? And I remember there's this
old black and white movie,like a World War II, I can't remember
it's called. It's someone whoknows, like, Noble, we're great fighting
the Germans kind of type ofmovies. And the character's got a

(42:37):
little black dog that'sactually called the N word.
Word.
And they call it over andthey're saying the N word. And I
was like, well, that would.Could do it being taken up. And then
I'm like, no, that's a productof its time. And it's. It's. It's
bad. And I don't think weshould rewrite history in that way.
And I don't think we shouldcut things because of. They were
made in different times. Soanything. Well, maybe like a snuff
movie where someone died, but,you know, someone died of Mad Max

(43:00):
2, one of the old map X1. Oneof the stuntmen died in one of the
accidents. And I think that'sa shot that's shown on screen. So
it's like, well, okay, sowhere do we go then? I think, well,
some movies have caused, like,copycat crimes like Clockwork Orange
and the Director pulledClockwork Orange, I think for a while
because he felt in some wayresponsible. Not responsible. This
is just psychopaths kind ofcopy in a film that can happen anytime.

(43:23):
So I don't think. And then youthink, well, you could. In with your
argument, you could easilyremove the first suicide Suicide
Squad movie because it'strash. But that getting made and
being so bad must haveangered. Who's the guy? The guy?
James Gunn. Yeah.
Yeah.
To make who they made anamazing version of Suicide Squad.

(43:43):
So I just don't think youshould remove movies.
I think, I think another wayit was like, what is the worst movie
you've ever seen?
Yeah, sure.
See, I'm a bit like Darrenbecause sometimes the worst movies
are still very enjoyable.
Yeah. And also if you look atlike Batman and Robin, that's like,
you know, it's a worst Batmanmovie. But I know people who grew
up with the Adam West TV show,so they love it. They love the camp

(44:04):
over the top Batman, likePhantom Menace. I don't like it at
all. It's awful. I wish thatit never got made. But there's a
whole fan base around that andsome people love those middle three.
I have a special place forPhantom Menace.
And then that, that triggeredthe, the. The. The animated shows
like Rebels and Clone Wars.Absolutely. And the final few episodes

(44:26):
of Clone wars are insane. Theorder 66 stuff is great, great cinema.
So, yeah, I. I am. You know,there's bad movies like Hell Comes
to Frogtown that I freakingadore. So I just. I don't think we
should delete. Unless you canthink of an example where some like,
crime or something, they.
Made Rey Palpatine's granddaughter.

(44:48):
Yeah.
I'm just saying. I'm justsaying. It's the only one I could
think of. But I agree with.
No, it's a good argument.
I agree with everything elseDarren said. Because my first impulse
was the same as yours, Darren,which is like. No. And then I remembered
my anger for that film.
I don't think I'd actually.When I put this out, I wasn't like
exactly saying this. We'regonna delete it if you choose it.
Yeah, yeah.
I just mean that's. Oh, Idon't have that you wish you never

(45:09):
made or, you know, it's justa. It's a metaphor, really.
Yeah, yeah.
For me it was Escape from la.
How dare you? Steve Buscemilooking over his shoulder.
New York. Yes. From la. No.
At a surfing.
Well, do I need to watch it? Darren?
I look back. No, no, I Saw inthe cinema with my friends, and I

(45:29):
was 15 when it came out. Andwe. We were all like, this is. This
is. After watching. Not long.Re. Watching the original one. And
we were like, so I haven'tseen it since. So.
No, I agree. It's awful.
Would be a good. Okay. But itwould be. I wouldn't mind having
it on here.
Yeah.
And analyzing it. And see,see, all these years later, do I
still hate as much.
But it predicted that wholekind of plastic surgery thing, isn't

(45:50):
it? Yes, that was. That was acool vibe. But yeah, the surfing
snake blessing was bad. I getwhat you're saying. I agree.
That's just. Anyway, so whatdid our listeners say? Jess Beck
said Free Guy, I think Ryan Reynolds.
Oh, my God.
Annoying man in the world.
Ryan Reynolds is vomitingmovies out a rate of just insanity

(46:11):
right now.
And they're all just using themoney to pay for Wrexham.
Yeah, exactly. I can'tdifferentiate between. I don't mind
that he's the same characterin everything. And I'm just like,
I'm done. I can't remember them.
Anything you'd like to make?
And actually, Tarantino talksabout this. He's like, yeah, he's.
I'm sure he's getting paid byNetflix. He's making bank. But his
movies don't impact thezeitgeist. Like, they're not. They're
just forgettable.

(46:31):
Where's Deadpool?
Yeah, but that. But that's notpart of the garbage he's throwing
out. Like, I. You know.
So there is something.
Yeah, like he. Sometimes hewas in Blade Trinity. Like, he can.
You know, there's some goodstuff that you'll do. But anyway,
Jess, that was a valid suggestion.
I enjoyed Free Guy, but I cansee your point.
It's a. It's a. It's a. It's amovie, isn't it? It's a Friday night

(46:52):
movie.
It was fun. I enjoyed it. ButI can see your point.
So Ollie Cake said theplatform 2.
Nope, I haven't seen it.
Completely abandons everythingthat made the first one so enjoyable.
Oh, no, we haven't seen it. Okay.
But it's annoying when asequel does do that.
Yeah. And you're like, ah,someone we know. Genesee D has messaged

(47:12):
in.
Oh, okay.
She's put a fault in ourstars. Awful acting from Ansel Elgort
and far too twee. I don't knowwhat the word twee means.
That's like the cancer youalmost dying and falls in love. Is
that what it is?
Far Too much?
Yes. I haven't seen it yet.
No, me neither.
But it sounds like she doesnot like it.
She put the word twee, which Ithink. Did you just say that earlier?
Yeah.
That's weird because I'venever heard of that word before and

(47:33):
I googled it. Excessively oraffectedly Quaint.
Really? Or sentimental, likesaccharine and sugary.
I've never heard of that wordever. And now I've heard it twice
in the space of 20 minutesfrom 2 different people. That's weird.
We're all learning.
Holly Pilkington says, theVillage, 2004. M Night's worst plot
twist ever.
Lisa was a plot twist.
Have anyone seen the Village?

(47:54):
No, because I've got bad things.
We're gonna see any of these films?
No, no.
Someone from your socials,Helena Gregory.
Okay.
Just put Saw throwing up emoji.
Oh, that's not a fan of itthen. Clearly. No, I've seen any
of the Saws either.
Like Saw and Hostile. They'relike this genre of movies would like,
like torture porn or Gorno andI think, yeah, if you don't like

(48:17):
seeing people just gettortured. Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm
not sure what people get fromthose movies, but I wouldn't censor
them. But, yeah, I get whereyou're coming from.
Okay, so that brings us on tonext week's movie, which is my choice.
Go for it.
I've changed my mind severaltimes, but I am going for something
topical that I haven't seen.
Okay.
Just because I know it's.Everyone's talking about it and it

(48:39):
was did well at the time andit looked interesting. I'm gonna
go for Glass Onion and KnivesOut Mystery. I don't really know
much about it.
But I've seen it.
Okay. Have you? Have you seen it?
I have not seen it. I've seenthe first one and I like, like the
director.
I didn't even know there was afirst one, so there you go.
Okay.
Okay.
I shall find out.
You don't need to have seenthe first one to understand the second
one from my. Understand?
That's correct.

(48:59):
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guys. If you want to get intouch with us, you can email us.
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(49:20):
you're listening on. And,yeah, thanks for listening. And that's
it. Episode over. This is Marksaying goodbye.
Episode over. Do that from nowon. That's amazing. And this is Darren
saying, I'll try and believein love in future.
I'm not your consolationprize, Harry.

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