April 11, 2025 • 48 mins
A small flute-like device that emits a 528 hertz tone could revolutionize how we think about healing, connection, and meditation. Sigmar Berg, founder of LoveTuner, joins Dr. Jade Teta to explore the fascinating science behind frequency healing and its profound implications for our wellbeing.
The conversation dives deep into the electromagnetic field of the heart, which extends 3-6 feet beyond our physical bodies and interacts with others around us. This field, measured by researchers at the HeartMath Institute, strengthens when we're in parasympathetic states—precisely what the Love Tuner helps achieve through controlled exhalation and frequency exposure.
What makes this approach particularly revolutionary is its accessibility. While traditional meditation often requires significant time and practice, biofeedback testing showed that complete beginners using the Love Tuner achieved the same brainwave patterns as experienced meditators in just six minutes rather than twenty. The audible feedback provided during exhalation helps maintain breath control while simultaneously immersing users in the healing frequency.
Perhaps most fascinating is how this frequency affects water molecules. Since our bodies are approximately 75% water (with blood being 91% water), the ability of the 528 Hz frequency to rapidly restructure water into organized patterns—similar to what's found in pristine mountain springs—suggests profound implications for cellular function and overall health. This relationship between sound, vibration, water, and healing represents an exciting frontier in our understanding of holistic wellbeing.
Try starting your day with a single tune to "set the tone," and return to this simple practice whenever anxiety arises or clarity is needed. As Sigmar reminds us: anxiety cannot exist in this frequency—darkness cannot persist in a room filled with light.
Contact Sigmar:
Website: https://www.lovetuner.com
Chapters:
00:00:00 Introduction to Sigmar and Love Tuner
00:05:42 Heart Electromagnetic Field and Frequency Science
00:09:36 Sigmar's Discovery of Frequency Meditation
00:17:18 DNA Repair and Cellular Restructuring
00:24:41 Authenticity and Heart-Centered Healing
00:32:40 Water, Frequencies, and Healing Vibratio
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Next Level Human podcast.
I am your host, dr Jay Tita.
I am here with an interestingand exciting guest.
This is Sigmar Berg, who is thefounder of LoveTuner, and this
is a device that I was veryexcited about because I have, as
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many of you know, been deep inthe work of what we might call
quantum metabolism for some time, and the idea of frequency and
vibration actually speaking toour metabolism and speaking to
our energetics has beensomething that has been
incredibly interesting to me,and so when Sigmar's information
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came across my desk you know,as a podcaster, I'm oftentimes
getting pitched to differentpeople to interview, and most of
the time these things are notvery interesting to me, but
whenever I see someone who hassort of a mission that Sigmar
brings and how he stumbled intothis work, I'm interested in
hearing that story.
And, sigmar, this is the firsttime you and I have met each
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other, so what I want to do, ifyou'll allow me, is just set up
a little bit about Next LevelHuman.
Then I want to hear a bit aboutyour story, but part of the
reason I was interested in youis because, from my perspective,
we humans, right, we go throughthese trajectories in life and
we never really fully know untilwe arrive somewhere we can look
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back and go oh, this littlething here brought me here,
brought me here, brought methere.
And all of a sudden we end upwith this very purposeful
mission and, from my perspective, part of Next Level Human is
tapping people into this ideathat their life journeys, their
history and perhaps even mostimportantly, their pain and
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their suffering, brings them toa place of understanding about
what their work is on the planet, and your story seems to fall
into line with this.
So I obviously have a lot tosay about the science of
vibrations and frequencies andthings like that, and we can get
into that.
But I first just want to hearabout how you got into this work
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and what has been your nextlevel human journey, and I would
just love for you to startwherever you like.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Okay, hey, chet.
First of all, thank you forhaving me on your podcast and I
know your work.
We talked earlier and, yeah, Ithink we are very aligned and
that actually makes it easy forme to talk right away about our
mission and what Love Tunerreally is.
So Love Tuner is this littledevice, what I'm wearing here.
It's a necklace where you cando a conscious breathing break.
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You connect to the power of the520 hertz frequency and, on a
spiritual level, you areinviting love in your life.
So this is what it does in anelevator pitch, and the cool
thing for the breast work is itgives you an audible feedback.
So you detach this little flute, then you do this conscious
breathing break, sometimes Zoomor whatever.
(03:01):
Google doesn't pick it up, butthat's the sound, so it makes
the sound.
You extend your exhale as longas it feels good, as long as you
can.
You strengthen your lung volume, you improve your immune system
and you go on this journey thatwe just talked about, and this
is like what.
I'm excited.
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This is how love tuna started.
So love tuna started as a loveand peace mission.
It was important for us tobring people together in loving
harmony, and we all understandfrequency and vibration.
We all get it, but most of thetime is our attention is to bad
frequencies.
So everybody's annoyed aboutyou know, street noise, whatnot,
but we never focus on.
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Oh, there's healing frequenciesup there, and I mean now
soundbaths, breast work.
Everybody talks about it.
But to really understand what itdoes in your system, and when
we talk about suffering and pain, what often is the motivation
for people to even go on aspiritual journey?
And when you play withfrequencies it literally
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transforms your entire cellularlevel.
So everything what is capturedin you, and most of the time our
mind, overrides the heart.
But this is just not how wefunction.
So the heart is way morepowerful.
We know this from the magneticfield and this is what the love
you know basically does.
It takes you out of your headinto your heart and it allows
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you to open your heart.
It allows all the trauma andall this stuff.
What is captured and the stuffthat we struggle with in our
entire life is not that.
It's in our mind.
We don't even know whathappened.
We cannot remember because ourmind is not there.
Our mind gives us an illusionabout it and we act like this
and if we want to find theanswer.
We will not find it on anintellectual level.
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We can only find those answersin our heart.
So this is a journey into ourheart.
That's the power of our heartand understanding of the longing
of our hearts that we all wantto connect, because the only
thing that really separates usis intellect.
You know, we look at each other, we are like totally programmed
, we have an opinion before weeven say one word.
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But our hearts, they want toconnect.
So hearts are always curious,they pick up right away.
And this is what I think is thesolution or a cure for humanity
and also for the individual,because you cannot heal the
world or the humanity if youdon't heal yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, I love this so much, sigmar, and, if I may,
I'll just catch up the audiencea little bit on some of this
science that you're referring to, and so some of what SIGMAR is
telling us here is that many ofyou may not be aware, but we
have actually measured theelectromagnetic field of the
heart.
This is a research coming outof the HeartMath Institute, some
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of it in other places, and theheart's electromagnetic field is
the biggest one we have in thebody.
It extends off the body threeto six feet, and it also
interacts with other people'sheart fields.
So, as Sigmar and I would be inclose proximity, we are picking
up the electromagnetic fieldsof people, and it's actually
been shown that we can sync upin this way.
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And so the other thing aboutthis science is that prolonged
exhales, and particularly whenyou're making a humming sound or
, in this case, using somethinglike the Love Tuner, is very
good for the vagus nerve, whichalso puts us in a
parasympathetic, relaxed state.
That amplifies the ability forour heart and our brain to be in
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coherence, which increases thiselectromagnetic field.
And so, yes, the long, slowexhale, but add in humming, or
adding in a frequency like a 528hertz, theoretically and this
part has not yet been studied.
But we certainly know that thiselectromagnetic field is
basically enhanced when we're inparasympathetic, relaxed,
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loving, coherent spaces, and wealso know that these frequencies
can bring us there and itessentially connects us, most
importantly, but also connectsus to ourselves, most
importantly, but also connectsus to other humans, and so there
is a really interesting sciencehere that I am interested in.
(07:20):
We can go further into howfrequencies affect the DNA and
the mitochondria and moleculesin general.
But tell me how you discoveredthis, because you and I were
talking briefly before we poppedon live and you were telling me
a little bit about how you hadbeen into meditation, but
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something about tuning intofrequencies while meditating.
It's interesting Sigmar wastelling me way back before Wim
Hof was a thing and people werejumping in cold baths.
He was doing this way back,same with me.
You know, I'm going back tolike 1997, 98, 99 now, when I
first entered medical schoolcontrast hydrotherapy, you know,
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cold plunges.
But I was not, sigmar, intomeditation and frequencies the
way you were.
So walk us through how you madethis discovery.
I'm curious your next level,human journey, how you got here.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So like, as I said earlier, like I was already into
meditation and I had a prettystressful business before and it
was a great, great thing for meto meditate.
So I discovered it.
So and I always say, like youknow, if you want to talk to God
, go outside.
Nature listens, you know.
So it's a good thing.
So I always did this, but Inever, like, really consciously
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meditated.
And breast work was for me,something that came through a
sport.
What I did when I was ateenager, all the way through
high school, I was a swimmer andit's all about breathing.
And with this breathing,especially when you swim like
1,500 meters and stuff like this, you go in a meditative state
of mind Absolutely.
(08:58):
And when I did this meditation,so a couple of years after I
started meditating, I did aguided meditation with breast
work and we have been listeningto 520 hertz and it was
something that was more powerfulthan anything that I ever
experienced.
And this is actually whatstarted the whole Loftuner idea
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to make it into a product.
And in my prior career I was adesigner.
So this all came together and Iwas really but but bring it to
the point, it was somethingwhere we saw that it's so simple
you know it was.
It was way easier than how tolearn meditate.
It was way easier than justsitting in, uh, in a meditation
or even to do a sound bath.
(09:40):
And what I?
I recognized back then and thisis not what I tell people to
shortcut their meditation.
But love tuning is a shortcutto meditation.
We tested this.
We did it with a bioresonancefeedback machine.
We tested 20 people doingmeditation, transcendental
meditation, people that havebeen meditating for many years,
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and then we had 20 people thatnever had a clue about anything,
never did breast work, nevermeditated, and obviously no clue
about the 520 hertz frequency.
And we did it both groups.
Then we tested the bioresonancefeedback, the brain waves, and
the results have beenidentically.
The only difference was themeditation took 20 minutes and
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laugh tuning, depending on theexhale, was about six minutes,
and this was actually what Ifelt when I did it the first
time with this frequency.
And so and this startedactually a journey I mean little
did I know that.
The 528 hertz, all the benefitsof this frequency, all the
so-called conspiracy what is nota conspiracy, why this
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frequency even disappeared?
Because it's not a man-madefrequency, it's a cosmic
frequency.
It's also called the divinefrequency, the love frequency or
, as you mentioned, the DNArepair frequency, because
frequencies can really repairour DNA and the more you do it
it restructures your cellularlevel.
And this was actually thebeginning of the journey.
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This is now many years ago.
At the beginning we did mainlyfoundational work.
We supported from whateverunderprivileged children, we did
school programs, and then wewent on and on and on and now
it's became my mission because Ireally recognize, also in the
seminars that we did, how peoplerecognize, like complete
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strangers, when you show themthe power of the heart and what
you just said.
With the HeartMath Institute Iproved many times how fire goes
out of your body.
This magnetic field proved manytimes how fire goes out of your
body, this magnetic field.
And when you are that sensitiveand with the love, you can get
this awareness because on top ofit, after a magnetic field of
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the heart, the frequency itselfgoes out of your body about
eight feet.
So as soon as you tune withsomeone, you connect into this
frequency field and then youunderstand the power of the
heart.
And we did this often inseminars where people literally
learned people how to feel thismagnetic field, because you feel
it unless you're not aware andthis is when we understand this
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that we are so connected andthat it's all about unity,
because humanity is about unity.
And if you get this heartawareness, you can overcome
polarity.
And this is basically what wewant to achieve.
We want to bring it together inloving togetherness.
And if you get this awareness,then you understand that we're
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all one and all is one, so youcannot separate it anyway, and
the separation causes thesuffering and it's a very I mean
I say this like in very simplewords for everybody to get it,
but that's really what it is Getout of your head, get into your
heart and make heartfeltdecisions, because this is what
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really will lift us up, and thishas nothing to do with
intellect.
That's really who we are, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I love this idea because obviously I lead groups
and a lot of my work is in usingbreath work and altered states
of consciousness and meditationto change the underlying stories
that keep people stuck in theirsuffering.
And I love the idea of thisbecause what you're basically
pointing to is sort of ashortcut.
Let's face it, meditation canbe pretty tough.
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So like if I imagine this forthe listener if you're sitting
outside, let's say in a park,and you had no music and you're
trying to, you know, focus andmeditate and you're hearing all
these sounds let's say you're inCentral Park in New York City
and you're hearing cars, beepand other things versus you're
hearing all these sounds.
Let's say you're in CentralPark in New York City and you're
hearing cars, beep and otherthings, versus you're sitting in
a mountain and you're justhearing nature sounds.
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Versus basically having musicpumped in, versus certain
frequencies of music and, inthis case, being able to bring
this wherever you go.
One of the things that I dowhenever I'm out and about and
need to calm myself when Itravel or things like that and I
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don't have headphones is I willdo a very gentle hum, almost as
a way to let my body vibrate,but not so loud that everybody
hears me.
So think about being in awaiting room for your airplane
getting ready to take off.
In the airport there's this sortof murmur going on, this kind
of stuff.
You can generate this sort oflong, slow exhalation and bring
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in this frequency.
I really like the idea ofbringing in this love tune, or
the other thing that's reallyinteresting is that breathing
almost through that straw, rightwhere you essentially it forces
you to slow down and breathe aparticular way that pushes you
even more into a parasympatheticstate.
So this device that you have isabout the size of a straw, so
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it's doing a lot of differentthings, but it is tapping you in
to this frequency.
So it is an interesting thingmeditating without sound,
meditating with music and thenmeditating with a humming
frequency or a particularfrequency which, by the way, the
humming frequency is notexactly the same as what Sigmar
is speaking to here, but thisseems to supercharge the
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meditation, and what you'retelling us is that these
individuals are able to getthere even novice meditators,
within six minutes, based onthis small little study that you
all did.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, and you know what you just said is like when
you blow through this whatever.
You call it a single tone flute, we call it a single tone flute
.
The audible feedback is soimportant for your breast work
Because you know you can breathethrough whatever you have and
you can do whatever breast workyou learned, but this gives you
an audible feedback.
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So as soon as your exhale isnot consistent or it drops a
little bit, the tone changes.
So you know exactly, inhalethrough the mouth again and do
it again, so, so and over timeit strengthens your lung volume
and I mean, I don't have to tellyou, but maybe for your
listeners breath is the biggestregulator we have and it's our
best friend through our entirelifetime.
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When we come into this world,we inhale.
The last thing we do when weleave is we exhale.
And if we understand the powerof breath and if we know how to
regulate it and getting us outof their fight and flight mode,
what is an wiring that we maybedon't even need in our society
anymore and we go more intosympathetic nervous system and
make better decisions, becausethat's what it's all about.
(16:37):
You know everything that we youknow like tell people or what
you do with your groups.
It's about the education, aboutbelieving in yourself.
It's all about empowerment.
It's not like oh, let's callthe doctor, let's go to the
therapist, let's talk about it,because therapy spoken therapy
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is actually a reminder of whatwent wrong.
You know, because it becomesyour mantra.
You tell it over and over again.
It will not go away.
The only one that is happy isthe therapist, because you keep
on coming back.
And in my mission, the mostimportant thing is to really
remind people that authenticityis the only way to wholeness.
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So if you understand yourselfand if you are aware of who you
are and have an authenticlifestyle and communicate
authentic, then this will makeyou happy.
And this is also when we talkabout the scale of frequencies.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
If we talk, you know love is the highest frequency,
but you can only achieve thelove frequency if you're really
authentic, because authenticityis the most important thing,
because everything what comesafter is relative when it's not
authentic yeah, we're gettinginto some really deep stuff now
that I want to unpack this forthe listener because from my
perspective, let's kind of goback to this idea of you know,
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sigmar is alluding to this ideathat we we carry sort of um,
these erroneous.
They're deep in oursubconscious and so when you go
see a therapist right, it's notthat there's anything wrong with
therapy, but it's a verylogical process.
There are some therapies andtherapy is getting much better
where you can drop down intothis subconscious state.
And I love what you're sayinghere, sigmar, because I believe
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the subconscious wounding I callit misguided unconscious
decisions Acronym is MUD.
We get stuck in the MUD.
These are misguided becausethey occur at times in our
childhood and our teenage yearsand our adulthood where we
didn't have the knowledge, theexperience, the know-how, the
maturity to deal with whathappens.
And, by the way, this is goingon all the time.
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If you have a health scare, ifyou have a financial scare, if
you're dealing with betrayal ora breakup or rejection or
something like that, it's alwaysthis misguided unconscious
decision that points to this,you know, sort of underlying
subconscious need for safety andsecurity and acceptance and
belonging and freedom andautonomy and ultimately, to me,
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this is pushing us to when weown these things.
When we go and we look and wefind these misguided,
unconscious stories that we'vetold in our lives and we own
them through radical ownership.
You know, sort of this idea oflike I will take this and
integrate it in a way that isauthentic to my story and then
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use it for good, right, like,instead of being the victim.
You talked about this idea ofoverly identifying with these
wounds.
That's what most people aredoing, and, of course, we must
be the victim for a time to heal, but we can't get stuck in
victim.
And when we get stuck in victim, now these stories are
dominating sort of our lives.
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But what we must do to heal isown them and tell our authentic
story of struggle in my mind.
So this is where thisauthenticity piece that I love
that you brought comes up.
However, that can be difficult,given the culture that we live
in, and so we have tools, thingsthat can actually help drop us
down into the subconscious.
This, to me, is where breathwork live in, and so we have
tools, things that can actuallyhelp drop us down into the
subconscious.
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This, to me, is where breathwork comes in.
This, to me, is wheremeditation comes in.
This is, to me, where you knowother modalities.
We can even include plantmedicines in this, and certainly
, when you turn on a 432 Hertzor a 528 Hertz or some of this
healing Hertz music, you candrop into these states much more
easily, get in touch with someof this healing hurts music.
You can drop into these statesmuch more easily, get in touch
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with some of this erroneousprogramming and begin to break
the cycle, and so I love toolslike this.
What I would love for you to dois walk us through how you're
actually using this in yourmeditations and, if you don't
mind, I'll briefly, just for theaudience, just say when we're
doing these meditations in.
And if you don't mind, I'llbriefly, just for the audience,
just say when we're doing thesemeditations.
In my groups, one of the thingswe do is take a big inhale,
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just in the simplest way.
Then we do a long, slow,controlled exhale, often with a
hum, and this could take six toeight to 10 to maybe even 12
seconds or longer, depending onhow conditioned you are.
And I'm imagining, sigmar, thatthis is similar to perhaps what
you're doing here, exceptyou're using the love tuner on
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the exhale.
Is that how this works?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, exactly.
So the love tuner can do twothings you can either use it
before meditation or after, andit can even replace meditation.
So I have a lot of people thatmeditate literally while they're
tuning.
And the main thing is becausethe breath work, you know, makes
you arrive in the here and now,and then you connect to this
frequency and this opens up acompletely new dimension, and
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you do all this by yourself.
You become, by using this thingand making the tone and
exhaling through the left, youbecome an instrument.
Your entire body is vibratingand the exhale is depending on
your condition.
As you said, it's anywherebetween whatever 10, 15 seconds.
We have a professional surfer,a big wave surfer.
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He has the record right nowit's one minute 20 seconds
exhale.
I mean that's crazy, becausethe guy can stay on the water
for five minutes.
So just to get a relation, soif you do 30 seconds exhale, one
minute exhale, you're alreadypretty good and it really helps
you, not only on a physicallevel but the relaxation that
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happens and this kind of stateof trance we are going to, and
this kind of state of trance weare going to.
This is exactly where you cantap into every cellular wounding
that you have.
And when I said earlier spoken,therapy is not good, I don't
tell anybody, stop your therapy.
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Like a tool, like breast workor sound healing, or in this
case, the love tuner, can becomean anchor, a reminder.
You know, whatever they learnin a seminar, whatever they do
in a group session, this thinggoes with them and in any time
when they connect, they connectright into your class, for
example.
They are right there.
They remember what you told him.
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They will remember what thetherapist told them, you know.
But I think straightforwardcommunication is not the healer
anymore.
You know, this is old schooland it's not where it's going.
This goes very close to ourWestern medical system to talk
about it and take some pills andhopefully you get better it.
(23:24):
And take some pills andhopefully you get better, but
you, you will never heal, youknow, because you're closing
your heart and and you can onlyheal from inside out.
And I mean if, if we look toomuch on the outside.
Um, as carl jung said it andit's one of my favorite quotes
he said if you look on theoutside, you're a dreamer.
If you go inward, you awaken.
And I think this, this, this isthe way to go.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, I love that thought and I'll tell you why I
was interested in this because Ilove your idea of becoming the
instrument.
Obviously, I tend to do theBramari breath or the hum, but
listening to music alone isreally interesting because
sometimes what I'll do is I'llput my speaker on my floor or
when I'm in a cold bath I'llhave 528 Hertz and the tub kind
of vibrates.
But you sent me one of theseand I got this and I was doing I
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usually do Bramari breath, butI love what you're saying about
turning you into the instrument.
You feel a different level ofvibration with this thing than
you would when you are justlistening to music and, by the
way, music's fine, everyonestarts where they want to start.
I think this is just anotherway to really tune in.
That's why I like the idea ofthis thing to becoming sort of
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the frequency you feel, yourbody resonating at that.
And, if you don't mind, I justwant to cover a little bit of
the science here, like one ofthe things to understand,
because a lot of people wholisten to this podcast are very
much into metabolism.
One of the understandings aboutmetabolism is this sort of lock
and key mechanism, right?
So if you have one moleculethat's this shape, right, you
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know, and then another moleculecomes along like a lock and a
key and fits it, and that thisis supposed to create what goes
on in the body, and this iscertainly happening.
However, what we have notrealized is that these two
molecules just floating aroundin the interstitial fluid and
finding each other is going tobe pretty cumbersome and take
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much longer than what our bodiesare actually doing, and so one
of the things that people whostudy metabolism has thought for
a long time is how is the bodyso efficient in this way?
And one of the things that theyshow is that water in particular
forms these coherent domainsand exclusion zones that help
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the molecules sort of find eachother, and there's a vibration
that is happening here, and thatmusic and mitochondria and
different molecules are actuallyoperating on a vibrational
level rather than just a lockand key phenomena.
So now introduce a particularhertz, almost like a, a tuning
fork, and now some of thesemolecules can line up with that
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tune, and with a 528 hertz, whatwe've seen is that it does seem
to have impact on DNA andcertain molecules, and so we're
entering a whole new sort ofunderstanding of medicine where
metabolism is not just lock andkey.
Yes, it happens that way, butit also is perhaps working
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through water, which is aconductor of these frequencies,
and also working through thesevibration of these molecules.
So I don't know if you haveanything you want to say about
that or add to that, but I justwanted to throw this in to let
people know there's a reallyinteresting emerging science.
I write about this a lot on mysub stack in this domain that
(26:50):
I'm fascinated with yeah, I mean, I can like.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You're absolutely right, first of all, and water
was actually when we starteddeveloping this instrument.
There was one book and it was,I think was called the hidden
messages in water, from a motoand, and he exposed water to
different frequencies, todifferent sounds and even to
prayers or to swearing or likewhatever hate and um.
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And water reacts right away, soit captures memories, first of
all.
And second of all, it reacts soand we are like 75% water.
Our blood is 91% water, so weare totally like a resonance
machine filled with fluid.
And when we understand this, soeverything that comes towards
us, we either feel open to it orit shocks us.
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And when you listen to classicalmusic, the original classical
music, like Mozart, this musicactually restructures water.
The musical scale got changed,like in the 1930s, finally,
where the A-tone went down from444 hertz to 440.
And this brings us indissonance.
I mean, you know, like JohnLennon wrote, imagine what is
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still the most famous love andpeace song in the world in 528
hertz.
So he raised up the A-tone, sohe knew what he's doing, but
coming back to water, and thereaction was 528 hertz.
We have a test on our homepage.
We even have pictures there.
So we put a seamless emote, weput water under a microscope, we
start tuning it and within 30seconds a water from a tap, what
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is not structured becomes fullystructured, like a mountain
spring water.
It goes back in the originalhexagonal shape and so now you
can imagine, we are like, as Isaid, over 70% water.
When you tune and you'reexposed to this frequency, this
vibration, because you becomethe instrument, it restructures
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your water molecules in yourbody, it gets rid of these
clusters and this gives you, ona physical level, the feeling of
relaxation.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Wow, that is fascinating.
I totally want to look intowhat you have on your website
there.
I can tell you another reallyinteresting study that I did
podcast it on here recently isFung et al.
In 2023, this group ofresearchers out of China took
petri dishes of human kidneycells and put words in opaque
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envelopes underneath them in adouble-blind fashion, and then,
before they did this, theyexposed these cells to hydrogen
peroxide, which damaged them,and then they basically had
different words, some positive,some negative underneath these
Petri dishes.
And then they looked to see ina double-blind,
placebo-controlled fashion or adouble-blind fashion, rather
okay.
What were the effects on thesePetri dishes?
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And the Petri dishes that hadthese positive words showed
increased growth, increased ATPproduction and decreased
reactive oxygen species in thesePetri dishes.
And, of course, the theory iswell, how is this happening?
Are these kidney cells readingthe words?
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Obviously not the words,obviously not.
But somehow the intentionbehind those words words like
Buddha and love and kindness andother words like hate and
destruction and other things arehaving an impact here.
Now, as someone who's beenevidence based his whole life
with studies like this, I alwaysgo OK, like I'm going to
reserve some a little bit ofjudgment, but it's funny, you
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brought up Emoto's studies onwater.
Until I saw the Fung studies andsome of the stuff that Beta
Austin is doing with freezingwater and exposing it to
different things, I kind ofregarded that as like sort of
you know junk science orpseudoscience.
Now I'm opening up to the ideathat, okay, there's something
going on here and, of course,when we start understanding how
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water has these exclusion zonesand these coherent domains that
we now know are forming, that'sdifferent than you know just the
vapor state and the liquidstate and the you know sort of
ice state, it's really someinteresting stuff, especially
now when you add in you knowvibrations.
So I'm very, very intriguedwith these ideas and have been
(31:05):
looking into them.
So I'm definitely going tocheck out that idea.
Have you done anything elsewith this?
I'm curious what stories you'vehad with people in terms of,
you know, mental states, mood,you know changing the mood.
Obviously, we know meditationin general and breathwork in
general can do this stuff, butI'm wondering what else have you
seen and what other stories areyou seeing?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And so we have seen some really crazy stories, some
a little bit too hocus pocushere that it would hurt my
reputation.
So I'm not mad that this reallyhappened.
But what we saw is like at thevery beginning was love, Tina,
you know, when you come out witha product, you have friends.
Friends, you have whatever.
You have kind of a reputationalready.
(31:47):
So people will never tell youthe truth, they will not say, ah
, what's that?
You know?
So the first thing we did wewent into schools and we started
tuning with kids and it was allelementary school, mainly
between eight and ten years old.
And you go in there you have 30to 40 kids and then comes a guy
with a love tune, a whistle.
You know people go like, ohwell, so I didn't know what's
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going to happen.
And those kids in no timepicked it up, tuned and the
results have been extreme.
So we had within not even ayear, we did it for a year in
every school.
Then some of the schoolscontinued doing it because the
teachers have been totally opento it.
But what happened is in thefirst semester we got rid of
bullying, the grades went up andthe kids got a different
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feeling of togetherness.
So you know you have in theclass, you have like this group
and that group and whatnot, andnot that they became the best
friends, the kids that haven'tbeen friends before.
But they understood we're inthe same classroom, we talk the
same thing, we have the samething going on, and it was
interesting from all thoseschools we got like little
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booklets at the end of thistrial that we did for a year and
every kid wrote a note and itwas so cool they said because of
the love tune, I know what todo when I feel anxiety.
I mean, this comes from an 80year old one, really so.
And this is when it made senseto me, because we are all like,
educated, we know what we aredoing, and on the other hand, we
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are also very stupid, becausewhat you are doing, you know
alternative medicine, you knowfunctional medicine, we swallow
it and we have no understandingwhat is in there.
We have no understanding what itdoes and we're even going in
there with oh wow, the sideeffects is like a page long,
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really, and we still do it.
So it's more what happens to usand what happened to us that we
got overwritten our naturalunderstanding of healing,
because the body can healeverything you know, and if we
know how to do it right, ofhealing because the body can
heal everything you know and ifwe know how to do it right and
that's the most interestingthing for me that we trust
medication, no matter what, butstuff, what is natural, we
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question it.
Yeah, and I think this is whatwhat it needs people like you to
educate more and more, thatthey get open to it and then
healing starts yeah, and youknow it's funny, it's when you
really think about it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
You sit down and think about what we're talking
about.
Sigmar, it's not actually thatoutlandish, right?
We all know if we go outsideand we sit on a park bench and
we hear birds sing, this cancalm us.
We know, by the way, thatresearch shows that They've
shown things like bird song forADHD and humming bees calming
people's moods.
(34:34):
And just going for a walk, youknow, lowering cortisol, being
out in nature has healthbenefits.
The sounds of nature havehealth benefits.
You know, focusing on breathingbrahmari breath and humming
breath, like all these things,are very simple things that when
you think about it, you go,yeah, of course, no duh.
However, whereas we used to beable to have that accessible to
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us and no one thought anythingabout it, we now have a lot of
other things in our lives thatcan cause dysregulation and
disharmony.
So, for me, I do very much likevery simple tools that can
bring us back into harmony veryquickly, and I love this idea of
the children having this uniquesort of way to tap back into
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their hearts and away from thesympathetic sort of
dysregulation that can happenwhen you're a kid.
You know, trying to learn,trying to manage stuff at home.
Like we all know that, nomatter how good our childhood
upbringing was, we all have somethings that happened to us as
kids or teenagers that were alittle tough, and wouldn't it
have been nice it doesn't meanit would completely have saved
(35:44):
us, perhaps, but wouldn't ithave been nice if someone had
told us here's how you canregulate, here's how you can
understand how to regulate youremotions and tap in.
This honestly, sigmar, is why Ilike tools like this.
I really appreciate what youare doing and, yeah, I'm a fan.
(36:04):
I want to give you a chance tojust follow up with any other
things you want people to knowor any other things you want to
cover before we end, but I dowant to say you know, really
thank you for your work andthank you for bringing something
really simple, you know that wecan tap into.
I think it's great and I thinkit's needed more now than ever.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Hey, jade, thank you so much.
I really appreciate your showand thank you for having me here
.
But I would like to say onething at the very end, and this
is like really start trustingyourself, because everyone has
an intuition and the more youuse it, the clearer your channel
gets and the more you cananswer a lot of questions
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yourself.
And I think that's thebeginning of a journey in a
spiritual way, but also in ahealing way.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, and before I let you go, one thing for me,
since I have this device andI've been playing with it,
what's the best way?
In my meditations with thisdevice right now, what I'm doing
is I've essentially replaced Ido sort of a stimulating breath
first with some sort ofstimulating music, and I've been
shutting the music off and thenessentially taking this device
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and putting it in place of myBramari exhale.
So what I do is just take a biginhale and then a long, slow
exhale blowing through thedevice.
And I repeat that, and I'vebeen going anywhere from 10 to
15 minutes with this as in placeof what I was doing, sort of
with the Bramari breath.
And it is interesting becauseit does force me that's another
(37:38):
thing I kind of like it doesforce me to regulate my breath
in a very different way.
But just before I let you go,is this do you recommend using
it this way?
Are there other ways that Ishould be trying to use it?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
No, I think you do a great job, especially the more
you tune.
The longer you tune, the betterthe effects.
But I always tell people onething, and this is very
important when you wake up inthe morning, have it somewhere
close to your nightstands andeven if you say good morning to
your beloved ones, or even ifyou're by yourself, make a tune
because it will set the tone ofthe day when you're not even
(38:12):
really awake.
Make one long exhale and justthe tone, and then later on I do
it every time when I go on arun or on a dog walk in the
morning I stop somewhere and Ido a conscious breathing break,
like whatever five to 10 minutes, whatever feels good.
You should do at least sixcycles.
This is what we recommend.
Inhaling through the nose,exhaling through the tuna, and
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then during the day it's greatevery time when something comes
up and you know, even if we arenot stressed out, but life gets
so fast sometimes and whenanxiety comes up or when you
feel like something is going on,just take a tuning break, go
outside I mean even if you're inan office building go to the
bathroom, go outside for aminute or two, do three cycles
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and you come back way morerelaxed, way more balanced.
And it doesn't do your job, butit gives you a different
perspective and it will takeaway anxiety.
For one reason not only thebreast work, but darkness cannot
exist in a room of light, andthe same thing as anxiety cannot
exist in this frequency.
That's proven.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I love that so much.
Sigmar, thank you for takingthe time.
Thank you for your work.
I wish you the best.
Where can people learn moreabout you?
Where can they get this deviceif they want to Just give us an
idea of where they can get intouch with you?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, the best thing is on our homepage so we ship
all over the United States freeshipping.
It's lovetunercom.
And if people are reallyinterested in more about in
general frequency also also fatshare frequencies, spiritual
laws I wrote a book.
It's called One Journey, theLove Tuner book.
It's available on Amazon andit's it's an easy read and it
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gives you a very profoundknowledge about frequencies in
general.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Perfect.
I appreciate you.
My friend, do me a favor, stayon the line.
I just want to make sure we canget this all uploaded, just
fine.
But for all of you, thank youfor hanging out with me and
Sigmar, and we will see you atthe next episode.
Thank you, chad.
Welcome everybody to the Next Level Human podcast.
I am your host, dr Jay Tita.
I am here with an interestingand exciting guest.
This is Sigmar Berg, who is thefounder of LoveTuner, and this
is a device that I was veryexcited about because I have, as
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many of you know, been deep inthe work of what we might call
quantum metabolism for some time, and the idea of frequency and
vibration actually speaking toour metabolism and speaking to
our energetics has beensomething that has been
incredibly interesting to me,and so when Sigmar's information
(00:42):
came across my desk you know,as a podcaster, I'm oftentimes
getting pitched to differentpeople to interview, and most of
the time these things are notvery interesting to me, but
whenever I see someone who hassort of a mission that Sigmar
brings and how he stumbled intothis work, I'm interested in
hearing that story.
And, sigmar, this is the firsttime you and I have met each
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other, so what I want to do, ifyou'll allow me, is just set up
a little bit about Next LevelHuman.
Then I want to hear a bit aboutyour story, but part of the
reason I was interested in youis because, from my perspective,
we humans, right, we go throughthese trajectories in life and
we never really fully know untilwe arrive somewhere we can look
(01:26):
back and go oh, this littlething here brought me here,
brought me here, brought methere.
And all of a sudden we end upwith this very purposeful
mission and, from my perspective, part of Next Level Human is
tapping people into this ideathat their life journeys, their
history and perhaps even mostimportantly, their pain and
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their suffering, brings them toa place of understanding about
what their work is on the planet, and your story seems to fall
into line with this.
So I obviously have a lot tosay about the science of
vibrations and frequencies andthings like that, and we can get
into that.
But I first just want to hearabout how you got into this work
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and what has been your nextlevel human journey, and I would
just love for you to startwherever you like.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Okay, hey, chet.
First of all, thank you forhaving me on your podcast and I
know your work.
We talked earlier and, yeah, Ithink we are very aligned and
that actually makes it easy forme to talk right away about our
mission and what Love Tunerreally is.
So Love Tuner is this littledevice, what I'm wearing here.
It's a necklace where you cando a conscious breathing break.
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You connect to the power of the520 hertz frequency and, on a
spiritual level, you areinviting love in your life.
So this is what it does in anelevator pitch, and the cool
thing for the breast work is itgives you an audible feedback.
So you detach this little flute, then you do this conscious
breathing break, sometimes Zoomor whatever.
(03:01):
Google doesn't pick it up, butthat's the sound, so it makes
the sound.
You extend your exhale as longas it feels good, as long as you
can.
You strengthen your lung volume, you improve your immune system
and you go on this journey thatwe just talked about, and this
is like what.
I'm excited.
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This is how love tuna started.
So love tuna started as a loveand peace mission.
It was important for us tobring people together in loving
harmony, and we all understandfrequency and vibration.
We all get it, but most of thetime is our attention is to bad
frequencies.
So everybody's annoyed aboutyou know, street noise, whatnot,
but we never focus on.
(03:43):
Oh, there's healing frequenciesup there, and I mean now
soundbaths, breast work.
Everybody talks about it.
But to really understand what itdoes in your system, and when
we talk about suffering and pain, what often is the motivation
for people to even go on aspiritual journey?
And when you play withfrequencies it literally
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transforms your entire cellularlevel.
So everything what is capturedin you, and most of the time our
mind, overrides the heart.
But this is just not how wefunction.
So the heart is way morepowerful.
We know this from the magneticfield and this is what the love
you know basically does.
It takes you out of your headinto your heart and it allows
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you to open your heart.
It allows all the trauma andall this stuff.
What is captured and the stuffthat we struggle with in our
entire life is not that.
It's in our mind.
We don't even know whathappened.
We cannot remember because ourmind is not there.
Our mind gives us an illusionabout it and we act like this
and if we want to find theanswer.
We will not find it on anintellectual level.
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We can only find those answersin our heart.
So this is a journey into ourheart.
That's the power of our heartand understanding of the longing
of our hearts that we all wantto connect, because the only
thing that really separates usis intellect.
You know, we look at each other, we are like totally programmed
, we have an opinion before weeven say one word.
(05:12):
But our hearts, they want toconnect.
So hearts are always curious,they pick up right away.
And this is what I think is thesolution or a cure for humanity
and also for the individual,because you cannot heal the
world or the humanity if youdon't heal yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, I love this so much, sigmar, and, if I may,
I'll just catch up the audiencea little bit on some of this
science that you're referring to, and so some of what SIGMAR is
telling us here is that many ofyou may not be aware, but we
have actually measured theelectromagnetic field of the
heart.
This is a research coming outof the HeartMath Institute, some
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of it in other places, and theheart's electromagnetic field is
the biggest one we have in thebody.
It extends off the body threeto six feet, and it also
interacts with other people'sheart fields.
So, as Sigmar and I would be inclose proximity, we are picking
up the electromagnetic fieldsof people, and it's actually
been shown that we can sync upin this way.
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And so the other thing aboutthis science is that prolonged
exhales, and particularly whenyou're making a humming sound or
, in this case, using somethinglike the Love Tuner, is very
good for the vagus nerve, whichalso puts us in a
parasympathetic, relaxed state.
That amplifies the ability forour heart and our brain to be in
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coherence, which increases thiselectromagnetic field.
And so, yes, the long, slowexhale, but add in humming, or
adding in a frequency like a 528hertz, theoretically and this
part has not yet been studied.
But we certainly know that thiselectromagnetic field is
basically enhanced when we're inparasympathetic, relaxed,
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loving, coherent spaces, and wealso know that these frequencies
can bring us there and itessentially connects us, most
importantly, but also connectsus to ourselves, most
importantly, but also connectsus to other humans, and so there
is a really interesting sciencehere that I am interested in.
(07:20):
We can go further into howfrequencies affect the DNA and
the mitochondria and moleculesin general.
But tell me how you discoveredthis, because you and I were
talking briefly before we poppedon live and you were telling me
a little bit about how you hadbeen into meditation, but
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something about tuning intofrequencies while meditating.
It's interesting Sigmar wastelling me way back before Wim
Hof was a thing and people werejumping in cold baths.
He was doing this way back,same with me.
You know, I'm going back tolike 1997, 98, 99 now, when I
first entered medical schoolcontrast hydrotherapy, you know,
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cold plunges.
But I was not, sigmar, intomeditation and frequencies the
way you were.
So walk us through how you madethis discovery.
I'm curious your next level,human journey, how you got here.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So like, as I said earlier, like I was already into
meditation and I had a prettystressful business before and it
was a great, great thing for meto meditate.
So I discovered it.
So and I always say, like youknow, if you want to talk to God
, go outside.
Nature listens, you know.
So it's a good thing.
So I always did this, but Inever, like, really consciously
(08:37):
meditated.
And breast work was for me,something that came through a
sport.
What I did when I was ateenager, all the way through
high school, I was a swimmer andit's all about breathing.
And with this breathing,especially when you swim like
1,500 meters and stuff like this, you go in a meditative state
of mind Absolutely.
(08:58):
And when I did this meditation,so a couple of years after I
started meditating, I did aguided meditation with breast
work and we have been listeningto 520 hertz and it was
something that was more powerfulthan anything that I ever
experienced.
And this is actually whatstarted the whole Loftuner idea
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to make it into a product.
And in my prior career I was adesigner.
So this all came together and Iwas really but but bring it to
the point, it was somethingwhere we saw that it's so simple
you know it was.
It was way easier than how tolearn meditate.
It was way easier than justsitting in, uh, in a meditation
or even to do a sound bath.
(09:40):
And what I?
I recognized back then and thisis not what I tell people to
shortcut their meditation.
But love tuning is a shortcutto meditation.
We tested this.
We did it with a bioresonancefeedback machine.
We tested 20 people doingmeditation, transcendental
meditation, people that havebeen meditating for many years,
(10:01):
and then we had 20 people thatnever had a clue about anything,
never did breast work, nevermeditated, and obviously no clue
about the 520 hertz frequency.
And we did it both groups.
Then we tested the bioresonancefeedback, the brain waves, and
the results have beenidentically.
The only difference was themeditation took 20 minutes and
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laugh tuning, depending on theexhale, was about six minutes,
and this was actually what Ifelt when I did it the first
time with this frequency.
And so and this startedactually a journey I mean little
did I know that.
The 528 hertz, all the benefitsof this frequency, all the
so-called conspiracy what is nota conspiracy, why this
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frequency even disappeared?
Because it's not a man-madefrequency, it's a cosmic
frequency.
It's also called the divinefrequency, the love frequency or
, as you mentioned, the DNArepair frequency, because
frequencies can really repairour DNA and the more you do it
it restructures your cellularlevel.
And this was actually thebeginning of the journey.
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This is now many years ago.
At the beginning we did mainlyfoundational work.
We supported from whateverunderprivileged children, we did
school programs, and then wewent on and on and on and now
it's became my mission because Ireally recognize, also in the
seminars that we did, how peoplerecognize, like complete
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strangers, when you show themthe power of the heart and what
you just said.
With the HeartMath Institute Iproved many times how fire goes
out of your body.
This magnetic field proved manytimes how fire goes out of your
body, this magnetic field.
And when you are that sensitiveand with the love, you can get
this awareness because on top ofit, after a magnetic field of
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the heart, the frequency itselfgoes out of your body about
eight feet.
So as soon as you tune withsomeone, you connect into this
frequency field and then youunderstand the power of the
heart.
And we did this often inseminars where people literally
learned people how to feel thismagnetic field, because you feel
it unless you're not aware andthis is when we understand this
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that we are so connected andthat it's all about unity,
because humanity is about unity.
And if you get this heartawareness, you can overcome
polarity.
And this is basically what wewant to achieve.
We want to bring it together inloving togetherness.
And if you get this awareness,then you understand that we're
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all one and all is one, so youcannot separate it anyway, and
the separation causes thesuffering and it's a very I mean
I say this like in very simplewords for everybody to get it,
but that's really what it is Getout of your head, get into your
heart and make heartfeltdecisions, because this is what
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really will lift us up, and thishas nothing to do with
intellect.
That's really who we are, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I love this idea because obviously I lead groups
and a lot of my work is in usingbreath work and altered states
of consciousness and meditationto change the underlying stories
that keep people stuck in theirsuffering.
And I love the idea of thisbecause what you're basically
pointing to is sort of ashortcut.
Let's face it, meditation canbe pretty tough.
(13:29):
So like if I imagine this forthe listener if you're sitting
outside, let's say in a park,and you had no music and you're
trying to, you know, focus andmeditate and you're hearing all
these sounds let's say you're inCentral Park in New York City
and you're hearing cars, beepand other things versus you're
hearing all these sounds.
Let's say you're in CentralPark in New York City and you're
hearing cars, beep and otherthings, versus you're sitting in
a mountain and you're justhearing nature sounds.
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Versus basically having musicpumped in, versus certain
frequencies of music and, inthis case, being able to bring
this wherever you go.
One of the things that I dowhenever I'm out and about and
need to calm myself when Itravel or things like that and I
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don't have headphones is I willdo a very gentle hum, almost as
a way to let my body vibrate,but not so loud that everybody
hears me.
So think about being in awaiting room for your airplane
getting ready to take off.
In the airport there's this sortof murmur going on, this kind
of stuff.
You can generate this sort oflong, slow exhalation and bring
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in this frequency.
I really like the idea ofbringing in this love tune, or
the other thing that's reallyinteresting is that breathing
almost through that straw, rightwhere you essentially it forces
you to slow down and breathe aparticular way that pushes you
even more into a parasympatheticstate.
So this device that you have isabout the size of a straw, so
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it's doing a lot of differentthings, but it is tapping you in
to this frequency.
So it is an interesting thingmeditating without sound,
meditating with music and thenmeditating with a humming
frequency or a particularfrequency which, by the way, the
humming frequency is notexactly the same as what Sigmar
is speaking to here, but thisseems to supercharge the
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meditation, and what you'retelling us is that these
individuals are able to getthere even novice meditators,
within six minutes, based onthis small little study that you
all did.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, and you know what you just said is like when
you blow through this whatever.
You call it a single tone flute, we call it a single tone flute
.
The audible feedback is soimportant for your breast work
Because you know you can breathethrough whatever you have and
you can do whatever breast workyou learned, but this gives you
an audible feedback.
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So as soon as your exhale isnot consistent or it drops a
little bit, the tone changes.
So you know exactly, inhalethrough the mouth again and do
it again, so, so and over timeit strengthens your lung volume
and I mean, I don't have to tellyou, but maybe for your
listeners breath is the biggestregulator we have and it's our
best friend through our entirelifetime.
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When we come into this world,we inhale.
The last thing we do when weleave is we exhale.
And if we understand the powerof breath and if we know how to
regulate it and getting us outof their fight and flight mode,
what is an wiring that we maybedon't even need in our society
anymore and we go more intosympathetic nervous system and
make better decisions, becausethat's what it's all about.
(16:37):
You know everything that we youknow like tell people or what
you do with your groups.
It's about the education, aboutbelieving in yourself.
It's all about empowerment.
It's not like oh, let's callthe doctor, let's go to the
therapist, let's talk about it,because therapy spoken therapy
(16:57):
is actually a reminder of whatwent wrong.
You know, because it becomesyour mantra.
You tell it over and over again.
It will not go away.
The only one that is happy isthe therapist, because you keep
on coming back.
And in my mission, the mostimportant thing is to really
remind people that authenticityis the only way to wholeness.
(17:20):
So if you understand yourselfand if you are aware of who you
are and have an authenticlifestyle and communicate
authentic, then this will makeyou happy.
And this is also when we talkabout the scale of frequencies.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
If we talk, you know love is the highest frequency,
but you can only achieve thelove frequency if you're really
authentic, because authenticityis the most important thing,
because everything what comesafter is relative when it's not
authentic yeah, we're gettinginto some really deep stuff now
that I want to unpack this forthe listener because from my
perspective, let's kind of goback to this idea of you know,
(17:58):
sigmar is alluding to this ideathat we we carry sort of um,
these erroneous.
They're deep in oursubconscious and so when you go
see a therapist right, it's notthat there's anything wrong with
therapy, but it's a verylogical process.
There are some therapies andtherapy is getting much better
where you can drop down intothis subconscious state.
And I love what you're sayinghere, sigmar, because I believe
(18:21):
the subconscious wounding I callit misguided unconscious
decisions Acronym is MUD.
We get stuck in the MUD.
These are misguided becausethey occur at times in our
childhood and our teenage yearsand our adulthood where we
didn't have the knowledge, theexperience, the know-how, the
maturity to deal with whathappens.
And, by the way, this is goingon all the time.
(18:42):
If you have a health scare, ifyou have a financial scare, if
you're dealing with betrayal ora breakup or rejection or
something like that, it's alwaysthis misguided unconscious
decision that points to this,you know, sort of underlying
subconscious need for safety andsecurity and acceptance and
belonging and freedom andautonomy and ultimately, to me,
(19:04):
this is pushing us to when weown these things.
When we go and we look and wefind these misguided,
unconscious stories that we'vetold in our lives and we own
them through radical ownership.
You know, sort of this idea oflike I will take this and
integrate it in a way that isauthentic to my story and then
(19:25):
use it for good, right, like,instead of being the victim.
You talked about this idea ofoverly identifying with these
wounds.
That's what most people aredoing, and, of course, we must
be the victim for a time to heal, but we can't get stuck in
victim.
And when we get stuck in victim, now these stories are
dominating sort of our lives.
(19:45):
But what we must do to heal isown them and tell our authentic
story of struggle in my mind.
So this is where thisauthenticity piece that I love
that you brought comes up.
However, that can be difficult,given the culture that we live
in, and so we have tools, thingsthat can actually help drop us
down into the subconscious.
This, to me, is where breathwork live in, and so we have
tools, things that can actuallyhelp drop us down into the
subconscious.
(20:06):
This, to me, is where breathwork comes in.
This, to me, is wheremeditation comes in.
This is, to me, where you knowother modalities.
We can even include plantmedicines in this, and certainly
, when you turn on a 432 Hertzor a 528 Hertz or some of this
healing Hertz music, you candrop into these states much more
easily, get in touch with someof this healing hurts music.
You can drop into these statesmuch more easily, get in touch
(20:28):
with some of this erroneousprogramming and begin to break
the cycle, and so I love toolslike this.
What I would love for you to dois walk us through how you're
actually using this in yourmeditations and, if you don't
mind, I'll briefly, just for theaudience, just say when we're
doing these meditations in.
And if you don't mind, I'llbriefly, just for the audience,
just say when we're doing thesemeditations.
In my groups, one of the thingswe do is take a big inhale,
(20:48):
just in the simplest way.
Then we do a long, slow,controlled exhale, often with a
hum, and this could take six toeight to 10 to maybe even 12
seconds or longer, depending onhow conditioned you are.
And I'm imagining, sigmar, thatthis is similar to perhaps what
you're doing here, exceptyou're using the love tuner on
(21:10):
the exhale.
Is that how this works?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, exactly.
So the love tuner can do twothings you can either use it
before meditation or after, andit can even replace meditation.
So I have a lot of people thatmeditate literally while they're
tuning.
And the main thing is becausethe breath work, you know, makes
you arrive in the here and now,and then you connect to this
frequency and this opens up acompletely new dimension, and
(21:37):
you do all this by yourself.
You become, by using this thingand making the tone and
exhaling through the left, youbecome an instrument.
Your entire body is vibratingand the exhale is depending on
your condition.
As you said, it's anywherebetween whatever 10, 15 seconds.
We have a professional surfer,a big wave surfer.
(21:57):
He has the record right nowit's one minute 20 seconds
exhale.
I mean that's crazy, becausethe guy can stay on the water
for five minutes.
So just to get a relation, soif you do 30 seconds exhale, one
minute exhale, you're alreadypretty good and it really helps
you, not only on a physicallevel but the relaxation that
(22:19):
happens and this kind of stateof trance we are going to, and
this kind of state of trance weare going to.
This is exactly where you cantap into every cellular wounding
that you have.
And when I said earlier spoken,therapy is not good, I don't
tell anybody, stop your therapy.
(22:41):
Like a tool, like breast workor sound healing, or in this
case, the love tuner, can becomean anchor, a reminder.
You know, whatever they learnin a seminar, whatever they do
in a group session, this thinggoes with them and in any time
when they connect, they connectright into your class, for
example.
They are right there.
They remember what you told him.
(23:03):
They will remember what thetherapist told them, you know.
But I think straightforwardcommunication is not the healer
anymore.
You know, this is old schooland it's not where it's going.
This goes very close to ourWestern medical system to talk
about it and take some pills andhopefully you get better it.
(23:24):
And take some pills andhopefully you get better, but
you, you will never heal, youknow, because you're closing
your heart and and you can onlyheal from inside out.
And I mean if, if we look toomuch on the outside.
Um, as carl jung said it andit's one of my favorite quotes
he said if you look on theoutside, you're a dreamer.
If you go inward, you awaken.
And I think this, this, this isthe way to go.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, I love that thought and I'll tell you why I
was interested in this because Ilove your idea of becoming the
instrument.
Obviously, I tend to do theBramari breath or the hum, but
listening to music alone isreally interesting because
sometimes what I'll do is I'llput my speaker on my floor or
when I'm in a cold bath I'llhave 528 Hertz and the tub kind
of vibrates.
But you sent me one of theseand I got this and I was doing I
(24:12):
usually do Bramari breath, butI love what you're saying about
turning you into the instrument.
You feel a different level ofvibration with this thing than
you would when you are justlistening to music and, by the
way, music's fine, everyonestarts where they want to start.
I think this is just anotherway to really tune in.
That's why I like the idea ofthis thing to becoming sort of
(24:35):
the frequency you feel, yourbody resonating at that.
And, if you don't mind, I justwant to cover a little bit of
the science here, like one ofthe things to understand,
because a lot of people wholisten to this podcast are very
much into metabolism.
One of the understandings aboutmetabolism is this sort of lock
and key mechanism, right?
So if you have one moleculethat's this shape, right, you
(24:57):
know, and then another moleculecomes along like a lock and a
key and fits it, and that thisis supposed to create what goes
on in the body, and this iscertainly happening.
However, what we have notrealized is that these two
molecules just floating aroundin the interstitial fluid and
finding each other is going tobe pretty cumbersome and take
(25:20):
much longer than what our bodiesare actually doing, and so one
of the things that people whostudy metabolism has thought for
a long time is how is the bodyso efficient in this way?
And one of the things that theyshow is that water in particular
forms these coherent domainsand exclusion zones that help
(25:45):
the molecules sort of find eachother, and there's a vibration
that is happening here, and thatmusic and mitochondria and
different molecules are actuallyoperating on a vibrational
level rather than just a lockand key phenomena.
So now introduce a particularhertz, almost like a, a tuning
fork, and now some of thesemolecules can line up with that
(26:09):
tune, and with a 528 hertz, whatwe've seen is that it does seem
to have impact on DNA andcertain molecules, and so we're
entering a whole new sort ofunderstanding of medicine where
metabolism is not just lock andkey.
Yes, it happens that way, butit also is perhaps working
(26:29):
through water, which is aconductor of these frequencies,
and also working through thesevibration of these molecules.
So I don't know if you haveanything you want to say about
that or add to that, but I justwanted to throw this in to let
people know there's a reallyinteresting emerging science.
I write about this a lot on mysub stack in this domain that
(26:50):
I'm fascinated with yeah, I mean, I can like.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You're absolutely right, first of all, and water
was actually when we starteddeveloping this instrument.
There was one book and it was,I think was called the hidden
messages in water, from a motoand, and he exposed water to
different frequencies, todifferent sounds and even to
prayers or to swearing or likewhatever hate and um.
(27:14):
And water reacts right away, soit captures memories, first of
all.
And second of all, it reacts soand we are like 75% water.
Our blood is 91% water, so weare totally like a resonance
machine filled with fluid.
And when we understand this, soeverything that comes towards
us, we either feel open to it orit shocks us.
(27:39):
And when you listen to classicalmusic, the original classical
music, like Mozart, this musicactually restructures water.
The musical scale got changed,like in the 1930s, finally,
where the A-tone went down from444 hertz to 440.
And this brings us indissonance.
I mean, you know, like JohnLennon wrote, imagine what is
(28:02):
still the most famous love andpeace song in the world in 528
hertz.
So he raised up the A-tone, sohe knew what he's doing, but
coming back to water, and thereaction was 528 hertz.
We have a test on our homepage.
We even have pictures there.
So we put a seamless emote, weput water under a microscope, we
start tuning it and within 30seconds a water from a tap, what
(28:26):
is not structured becomes fullystructured, like a mountain
spring water.
It goes back in the originalhexagonal shape and so now you
can imagine, we are like, as Isaid, over 70% water.
When you tune and you'reexposed to this frequency, this
vibration, because you becomethe instrument, it restructures
(28:46):
your water molecules in yourbody, it gets rid of these
clusters and this gives you, ona physical level, the feeling of
relaxation.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Wow, that is fascinating.
I totally want to look intowhat you have on your website
there.
I can tell you another reallyinteresting study that I did
podcast it on here recently isFung et al.
In 2023, this group ofresearchers out of China took
petri dishes of human kidneycells and put words in opaque
(29:17):
envelopes underneath them in adouble-blind fashion, and then,
before they did this, theyexposed these cells to hydrogen
peroxide, which damaged them,and then they basically had
different words, some positive,some negative underneath these
Petri dishes.
And then they looked to see ina double-blind,
placebo-controlled fashion or adouble-blind fashion, rather
okay.
What were the effects on thesePetri dishes?
(29:39):
And the Petri dishes that hadthese positive words showed
increased growth, increased ATPproduction and decreased
reactive oxygen species in thesePetri dishes.
And, of course, the theory iswell, how is this happening?
Are these kidney cells readingthe words?
(30:00):
Obviously not the words,obviously not.
But somehow the intentionbehind those words words like
Buddha and love and kindness andother words like hate and
destruction and other things arehaving an impact here.
Now, as someone who's beenevidence based his whole life
with studies like this, I alwaysgo OK, like I'm going to
reserve some a little bit ofjudgment, but it's funny, you
(30:21):
brought up Emoto's studies onwater.
Until I saw the Fung studies andsome of the stuff that Beta
Austin is doing with freezingwater and exposing it to
different things, I kind ofregarded that as like sort of
you know junk science orpseudoscience.
Now I'm opening up to the ideathat, okay, there's something
going on here and, of course,when we start understanding how
(30:42):
water has these exclusion zonesand these coherent domains that
we now know are forming, that'sdifferent than you know just the
vapor state and the liquidstate and the you know sort of
ice state, it's really someinteresting stuff, especially
now when you add in you knowvibrations.
So I'm very, very intriguedwith these ideas and have been
(31:05):
looking into them.
So I'm definitely going tocheck out that idea.
Have you done anything elsewith this?
I'm curious what stories you'vehad with people in terms of,
you know, mental states, mood,you know changing the mood.
Obviously, we know meditationin general and breathwork in
general can do this stuff, butI'm wondering what else have you
seen and what other stories areyou seeing?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
And so we have seen some really crazy stories, some
a little bit too hocus pocushere that it would hurt my
reputation.
So I'm not mad that this reallyhappened.
But what we saw is like at thevery beginning was love, Tina,
you know, when you come out witha product, you have friends.
Friends, you have whatever.
You have kind of a reputationalready.
(31:47):
So people will never tell youthe truth, they will not say, ah
, what's that?
You know?
So the first thing we did wewent into schools and we started
tuning with kids and it was allelementary school, mainly
between eight and ten years old.
And you go in there you have 30to 40 kids and then comes a guy
with a love tune, a whistle.
You know people go like, ohwell, so I didn't know what's
(32:09):
going to happen.
And those kids in no timepicked it up, tuned and the
results have been extreme.
So we had within not even ayear, we did it for a year in
every school.
Then some of the schoolscontinued doing it because the
teachers have been totally opento it.
But what happened is in thefirst semester we got rid of
bullying, the grades went up andthe kids got a different
(32:33):
feeling of togetherness.
So you know you have in theclass, you have like this group
and that group and whatnot, andnot that they became the best
friends, the kids that haven'tbeen friends before.
But they understood we're inthe same classroom, we talk the
same thing, we have the samething going on, and it was
interesting from all thoseschools we got like little
(32:54):
booklets at the end of thistrial that we did for a year and
every kid wrote a note and itwas so cool they said because of
the love tune, I know what todo when I feel anxiety.
I mean, this comes from an 80year old one, really so.
And this is when it made senseto me, because we are all like,
educated, we know what we aredoing, and on the other hand, we
(33:16):
are also very stupid, becausewhat you are doing, you know
alternative medicine, you knowfunctional medicine, we swallow
it and we have no understandingwhat is in there.
We have no understanding what itdoes and we're even going in
there with oh wow, the sideeffects is like a page long,
(33:39):
really, and we still do it.
So it's more what happens to usand what happened to us that we
got overwritten our naturalunderstanding of healing,
because the body can healeverything you know, and if we
know how to do it right, ofhealing because the body can
heal everything you know and ifwe know how to do it right and
that's the most interestingthing for me that we trust
medication, no matter what, butstuff, what is natural, we
(34:02):
question it.
Yeah, and I think this is whatwhat it needs people like you to
educate more and more, thatthey get open to it and then
healing starts yeah, and youknow it's funny, it's when you
really think about it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
You sit down and think about what we're talking
about.
Sigmar, it's not actually thatoutlandish, right?
We all know if we go outsideand we sit on a park bench and
we hear birds sing, this cancalm us.
We know, by the way, thatresearch shows that They've
shown things like bird song forADHD and humming bees calming
people's moods.
(34:34):
And just going for a walk, youknow, lowering cortisol, being
out in nature has healthbenefits.
The sounds of nature havehealth benefits.
You know, focusing on breathingbrahmari breath and humming
breath, like all these things,are very simple things that when
you think about it, you go,yeah, of course, no duh.
However, whereas we used to beable to have that accessible to
(34:59):
us and no one thought anythingabout it, we now have a lot of
other things in our lives thatcan cause dysregulation and
disharmony.
So, for me, I do very much likevery simple tools that can
bring us back into harmony veryquickly, and I love this idea of
the children having this uniquesort of way to tap back into
(35:23):
their hearts and away from thesympathetic sort of
dysregulation that can happenwhen you're a kid.
You know, trying to learn,trying to manage stuff at home.
Like we all know that, nomatter how good our childhood
upbringing was, we all have somethings that happened to us as
kids or teenagers that were alittle tough, and wouldn't it
have been nice it doesn't meanit would completely have saved
(35:44):
us, perhaps, but wouldn't ithave been nice if someone had
told us here's how you canregulate, here's how you can
understand how to regulate youremotions and tap in.
This honestly, sigmar, is why Ilike tools like this.
I really appreciate what youare doing and, yeah, I'm a fan.
(36:04):
I want to give you a chance tojust follow up with any other
things you want people to knowor any other things you want to
cover before we end, but I dowant to say you know, really
thank you for your work andthank you for bringing something
really simple, you know that wecan tap into.
I think it's great and I thinkit's needed more now than ever.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Hey, jade, thank you so much.
I really appreciate your showand thank you for having me here
.
But I would like to say onething at the very end, and this
is like really start trustingyourself, because everyone has
an intuition and the more youuse it, the clearer your channel
gets and the more you cananswer a lot of questions
(36:48):
yourself.
And I think that's thebeginning of a journey in a
spiritual way, but also in ahealing way.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, and before I let you go, one thing for me,
since I have this device andI've been playing with it,
what's the best way?
In my meditations with thisdevice right now, what I'm doing
is I've essentially replaced Ido sort of a stimulating breath
first with some sort ofstimulating music, and I've been
shutting the music off and thenessentially taking this device
(37:15):
and putting it in place of myBramari exhale.
So what I do is just take a biginhale and then a long, slow
exhale blowing through thedevice.
And I repeat that, and I'vebeen going anywhere from 10 to
15 minutes with this as in placeof what I was doing, sort of
with the Bramari breath.
And it is interesting becauseit does force me that's another
(37:38):
thing I kind of like it doesforce me to regulate my breath
in a very different way.
But just before I let you go,is this do you recommend using
it this way?
Are there other ways that Ishould be trying to use it?
Speaker 2 (37:50):
No, I think you do a great job, especially the more
you tune.
The longer you tune, the betterthe effects.
But I always tell people onething, and this is very
important when you wake up inthe morning, have it somewhere
close to your nightstands andeven if you say good morning to
your beloved ones, or even ifyou're by yourself, make a tune
because it will set the tone ofthe day when you're not even
(38:12):
really awake.
Make one long exhale and justthe tone, and then later on I do
it every time when I go on arun or on a dog walk in the
morning I stop somewhere and Ido a conscious breathing break,
like whatever five to 10 minutes, whatever feels good.
You should do at least sixcycles.
This is what we recommend.
Inhaling through the nose,exhaling through the tuna, and
(38:33):
then during the day it's greatevery time when something comes
up and you know, even if we arenot stressed out, but life gets
so fast sometimes and whenanxiety comes up or when you
feel like something is going on,just take a tuning break, go
outside I mean even if you're inan office building go to the
bathroom, go outside for aminute or two, do three cycles
(38:55):
and you come back way morerelaxed, way more balanced.
And it doesn't do your job, butit gives you a different
perspective and it will takeaway anxiety.
For one reason not only thebreast work, but darkness cannot
exist in a room of light, andthe same thing as anxiety cannot
exist in this frequency.
That's proven.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
I love that so much.
Sigmar, thank you for takingthe time.
Thank you for your work.
I wish you the best.
Where can people learn moreabout you?
Where can they get this deviceif they want to Just give us an
idea of where they can get intouch with you?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, the best thing is on our homepage so we ship
all over the United States freeshipping.
It's lovetunercom.
And if people are reallyinterested in more about in
general frequency also also fatshare frequencies, spiritual
laws I wrote a book.
It's called One Journey, theLove Tuner book.
It's available on Amazon andit's it's an easy read and it
(39:50):
gives you a very profoundknowledge about frequencies in
general.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Perfect.
I appreciate you.
My friend, do me a favor, stayon the line.
I just want to make sure we canget this all uploaded, just
fine.
But for all of you, thank youfor hanging out with me and
Sigmar, and we will see you atthe next episode.
Thank you, chad.
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