Night Owls

Night Owls

Joe Klein and John Ellis on what's happening and what happens next. Joe Klein is the author of seven books and "Sanity Clause," a Substack newsletter. John Ellis is the founder and editor of two Substack newsletters — News Items and Political News Items. The two friends have covered American politics for a combined 95 years.

Episodes

May 13, 2024 48 mins

Joe praises Tom Friedman and ponders RFK Jr. John is all worked up about 7 EV chargers. Biology is being transformed by Google DeepMind. And more.

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There is only one Jim Cramer. We talked to him about everything. 

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April 28, 2024 59 mins

Joe and John talk to veteran Democratic Party campaign manager Joe Trippi about why Trump might lose and what Biden has to do to beat him. 

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April 21, 2024 55 mins

Joe and John talk to Mark Tercek about the changing climate and the challenges it presents. Mark is well-qualified to discuss the "issue," having served as CEO of the Nature Conservancy for over a decade. It's a very informative discussion, entirely due to Mark's encyclopedic knowledge of the subject matter. Listen and learn. You'll learn a lot. 

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April 14, 2024 50 mins

John and Joe consider the Arizona Supreme Court decision on abortion. Joe unpacks five potential threats to President Biden this fall. Plus, a discussion of NPR's integrity in light of a bombshell essay about its inherent bias.

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April 8, 2024 58 mins

Joe and John interview Jane Perlez, former New York Times Beijing bureau chief, about her upcoming 8-part podcast series: "Face-Off, The U.S. vs. China." Once friends, now foes, the question is: what happens next? 

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April 1, 2024 40 mins

Part Two of a two-part interview with Nicole Perlroth, author of "This is How They Tell Me The World Ends: The Cyber-Weapons Arms Race." It's the future coming at you. 

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April 1, 2024 35 mins

Part One of a two-part interview with Nicole Perlroth, author of "This is How They Tell Me The World Ends: The Cyber-Weapons Arms Race." It's the future coming at you.

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March 24, 2024 46 mins

Trump's mighty cash crunch, Larry Summers' persuasive  inflation research, Carville and Hunt's Politics War Room and the future coming at you: a $10,000 BYD EV from China called "Seagull." All that and more from an undisclosed location in Key West, Florida. 

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March 17, 2024 58 mins
Chuck Schumer puts Bibi on the clock. Systems of weapons, not weapon systems. GM is watching you drive, all the time, and selling your data to auto insurers. This and more in Episode 14 of 'Night Owls.'
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March 10, 2024 51 mins
A busy week in American politics….Super Tuesday, the Supreme Court, the State of the Union and…..perplexity.ai.
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March 2, 2024 56 mins
A lengthy interview with Steve Coll, author of the just-released "The Achilles Trap:  Saddam Hussein, the C.I.A., and the Origins of America's Invasion of Iraq". Mr. Coll is the David Halberstam of his generation. You'll understand why we say that after you listen to this episode. 
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February 25, 2024 46 mins

A walk around the news neighborhood. Joe surveys a political culture going off the rails.  John bangs on about deep fakes and the possibility of a "hacked" election. More important:  the pace of scientific discovery accelerates, advancing hope around the world.

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February 19, 2024 48 mins

Joe Klein talks to Elaine Ciulla and William Galston, co-authors of the seminal paper The Politics of Evasion: Democrats and the Presidency, about immigration, Trump, the challenges facing the Democratic Party and more.

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February 9, 2024 55 mins
Joe thinks Trump may have peaked. John thinks Trump has a ceiling. We taped on Wednesday, so the Biden age issue will have to wait.

 

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February 3, 2024 48 mins

John and Joe discuss ongoing conflicts in the Middle East. John unspools a brief history of American far-right extremism. Joe considers the political power of Taylor Swift.

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January 26, 2024 44 mins

Joe and John ruminate on New Hampshire, Nikki Haley, deep fakes, cyberhacking and Mark Zuckerberg in the latest episode of 'Night Owls'. 

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January 17, 2024 28 mins

Joe and John discuss the Iowa results. Joe is unnerved by some of the exit poll results. John expects DeSantis to endorse Trump before South Carolina. If the exit poll data are accurate, Haley has no chance of winning the GOP nomination.

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January 13, 2024 51 mins

Joe and John talk Iowa and New Hampshire, Bobby Kennedy and Donald Trump, Barack Obama and Joe Biden, immigration and Ecuador, Tiger Woods and Nike. Mostly.

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January 6, 2024 58 mins

John and Joe discusses Trump's chances ahead of the Iowa caucuses and his appeal of a Colorado Supreme Court decision barring him from the state's ballot. John offers an idea for the new president of Harvard. 

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