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August 19, 2025 66 mins

Gossip? Facts? Real news? This episode has a little bit of all 3 in a back-and-forth dynamic that will leave you laughing and loving it. 

Des and Kara start with an update on their girls trip to Cincinnati to visit their friend @runningcb. There was baseball and tennis and so much walking involved that Kara is still sore today. There were also shenanigans with dog Miles and beer challenges for Des and shared bedrooms. It's safe to say that Des and Kara have entered into a new level of friendship with this trip (and that Crouton might be jealous). 

Then, they turn to all of the running chatter from this past week including a comeback race for Keely, WR attempt for Faith, hope for Yared, and of course, the latest "transparency" from Michael Johnson and Grand Slam Track. They talk doping offenses from Fred Kerley and collegiate Parvej Khan, remind the pros how easy it is to use the whereabouts system, and wonder when more rigorous testing will come to the collegiate and high school level. With NIL expanding, are high schoolers and their parents ready for testers to watch them pee in a cup?!

Finally, they end with an unhinged Lagoon Sleep top 5 (err... 4?).

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